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	<title>Comments on: UFC 85: Chuck Liddell and Shogun Rua to most likely fight in London</title>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the UFC international events are just a big con.

They promise big fights before the tickets go on sale and the just withdrawn then untill the fight crad is a who are these guys again???????

and the prices are just silly, 

Ps dont think UFC  will make it in to england they havent got the business sencs 

long live CAGE RAGE for real fan how want to see big fights in england and dont want a load of crap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the UFC international events are just a big con.</p>
<p>They promise big fights before the tickets go on sale and the just withdrawn then untill the fight crad is a who are these guys again???????</p>
<p>and the prices are just silly, </p>
<p>Ps dont think UFC  will make it in to england they havent got the business sencs </p>
<p>long live CAGE RAGE for real fan how want to see big fights in england and dont want a load of crap</p>
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		<title>By: Sparko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;297841&quot;]Here we ago once and sadly again, here you are, YOU Shogun fans, glorifying a man who got his ass beat and handed to him BAD! by none other than Forrest Griffin, you keep using the &quot;if the old Shogun shows up&quot; DROP IT! Shogun will show up and looking just like he did against Griffin. Look at his physique in Pride and look at him now in UFC, see the dramatic difference? it&#039;s what happens to the body when it goes through steroid withdrawal. Liddell will crush that putsie.[/quote]


this guy doesnt know what an ACL injury means right? i bet he doesnt...try training with an acl injury no wait TRY TO RUN WITH UR ACL FUCKED UP dude just keep it real shogun will destroy chuck that i know for sure 102 % can bet my house n my car</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="297841"]Here we ago once and sadly again, here you are, YOU Shogun fans, glorifying a man who got his ass beat and handed to him BAD! by none other than Forrest Griffin, you keep using the &#8220;if the old Shogun shows up&#8221; DROP IT! Shogun will show up and looking just like he did against Griffin. Look at his physique in Pride and look at him now in UFC, see the dramatic difference? it&#8217;s what happens to the body when it goes through steroid withdrawal. Liddell will crush that putsie.[/quote]</p>
<p>this guy doesnt know what an ACL injury means right? i bet he doesnt&#8230;try training with an acl injury no wait TRY TO RUN WITH UR ACL FUCKED UP dude just keep it real shogun will destroy chuck that i know for sure 102 % can bet my house n my car</p>
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		<title>By: jiimyb03</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiimyb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry ill stop commenting in a min just read the whole story! why they moaning about travelling?? give me his money for 1 fight and ill travel naked! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry ill stop commenting in a min just read the whole story! why they moaning about travelling?? give me his money for 1 fight and ill travel naked! lol</p>
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		<title>By: jiimyb03</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiimyb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hang on did chucks camp moan about coming to england?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hang on did chucks camp moan about coming to england?</p>
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		<title>By: jiimyb03</title>
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		<dc:creator>jiimyb03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant wait for this fight! i was there at ufc 75 champion vs champion in london and was gonna go to newcastle for ufc 80 but wernt a brilliant fight card, defiently gotta go to ufc 85 to see these two fight, i think shogun will win bye decision</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant wait for this fight! i was there at ufc 75 champion vs champion in london and was gonna go to newcastle for ufc 80 but wernt a brilliant fight card, defiently gotta go to ufc 85 to see these two fight, i think shogun will win bye decision</p>
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		<title>By: The Anomaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Anomaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s go CHUCK!! He&#039;s got this. Chuck gets amped for these big name fights, and that&#039;s when we see the champion in him come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s go CHUCK!! He&#8217;s got this. Chuck gets amped for these big name fights, and that&#8217;s when we see the champion in him come out.</p>
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		<title>By: Chadx23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chadx23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shogun is great, but Chuck has more experience and especially in the big fights...also, he seems to be getting back to being a MMArtist and not a 1 trick pony...not that I didnt enjoy it, plus I think Chuck misses that belt and wants it back on his waist one final time before retireing...he has 3 fights left on his contract, one to beat Shogun and one for the title, leaving him the option to defend once &amp; retire or win the belt and retire....will be interesting to see how it plays out but at this point I view Chuck in the underdog role for the remaining of his career unless he can come out &amp; KO Shogun in good fashion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shogun is great, but Chuck has more experience and especially in the big fights&#8230;also, he seems to be getting back to being a MMArtist and not a 1 trick pony&#8230;not that I didnt enjoy it, plus I think Chuck misses that belt and wants it back on his waist one final time before retireing&#8230;he has 3 fights left on his contract, one to beat Shogun and one for the title, leaving him the option to defend once &amp; retire or win the belt and retire&#8230;.will be interesting to see how it plays out but at this point I view Chuck in the underdog role for the remaining of his career unless he can come out &amp; KO Shogun in good fashion</p>
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		<title>By: skatanicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>skatanicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;298260&quot;][quote comment=&quot;298025&quot;]Lesnar vs vera would be awesome.. I hope that happens... either way whoever wins it probably wouldn&#039;t make it out of the 1st rnd. I would like to see them trade punches on the feet..[/quote]
YEAH! that would be an AWESOME match!! David vs. Goliath[/quote]

Maybe I&#039;m crazy, but I think Lesnar would destroy Vera. Vera&#039;s not going to catch Lesnar with a submission the way Mir did, and Mir wasn&#039;t far from losing that fight, so I&#039;d definitely expect Lesnar to finish Vera very quickly.  

I see Chuck as the favorite against Shogun, considering Shogun looked so crappy in his last fight, but if they both come to fight it&#039;s going to be very interesting. I don&#039;t know if Shogun will be able to use the clench against Chuck and taking him down will be very difficult, so again, I&#039;m favoring Chuck. If Shogun can use the clench or can get takedowns, he&#039;ll win the fight. I just think that&#039;s going to be a very difficult task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="298260"][quote comment="298025"]Lesnar vs vera would be awesome.. I hope that happens&#8230; either way whoever wins it probably wouldn&#8217;t make it out of the 1st rnd. I would like to see them trade punches on the feet..[/quote]<br />
YEAH! that would be an AWESOME match!! David vs. Goliath[/quote]</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m crazy, but I think Lesnar would destroy Vera. Vera&#8217;s not going to catch Lesnar with a submission the way Mir did, and Mir wasn&#8217;t far from losing that fight, so I&#8217;d definitely expect Lesnar to finish Vera very quickly.  </p>
<p>I see Chuck as the favorite against Shogun, considering Shogun looked so crappy in his last fight, but if they both come to fight it&#8217;s going to be very interesting. I don&#8217;t know if Shogun will be able to use the clench against Chuck and taking him down will be very difficult, so again, I&#8217;m favoring Chuck. If Shogun can use the clench or can get takedowns, he&#8217;ll win the fight. I just think that&#8217;s going to be a very difficult task.</p>
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		<title>By: Sephora MMA fans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sephora MMA fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shogun isn&#039;t too bad either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shogun isn&#8217;t too bad either.</p>
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		<title>By: Sephora MMA fans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sephora MMA fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck is fucking hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck is fucking hot.</p>
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