He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????

It’s nice to see another decent fighter in the MW division but I just don’t see him getting into the top 5 of division and even if he does…he’ll never get the belt from Silva or Henderson. I can’t see him beating Marquardt or Franklin either unless his hand speed picks up dramatically with dropping weight classes. His hands are just too slow for this division as it stands from watchin his last few fights. I hope dropping weight will make him faster cause he’ll need it. I’d like to see him tested against a better fighter than Chainsaw but I guess he’ll have to do for now.

he will breeze through 99 percent of the middle wait division imo he has great jj and is strong and quick should be good

[quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly

[quote comment=”296160″]he will breeze through 99 percent of the middle wait division imo he has great jj and is strong and quick should be good[/quote]
Yeh correct me if I’m wrong but not an abundance of great wrestlers at 185, and Bisbing has great ability to stand up when someone is on him.. Can’t see many if any MW’s will be able to keep him on the floor if they get him there.

[quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

I guess I agree somewhat’
Maybe Leban and Mcfedries are to tuff of a fight for his 1st MW, But MCcarthy????…c’mon! They could of sent Bisping here to Canada to fight someone better then that tomato…

[quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

But McCarthy is actually a step or two BELOW being a can. He defeats himself mentally before stepping foot into the octagon. He is from the same season of TUF (season 3) and lost his very first fight on the show. He should not be fighting the TUF winner from the same season. That is just riduculous. If this fight were to ever happen, it should have happened during season 3 cuz Bisping should have been at 185.

Forrest Griffin’s 3rd fight after winning TUF season 1 was against Tito Ortiz. Michael Bisping faced Ravishing Red, Elvis freaking Sinosic and then Matt Hamill in his 3rd fight after winning TUF 3. The same Hamill that competed in Season 3 of TUF. Who is Bisping fighting next? Charles McCarthy from TUF season 3. Bisping will never be able to advance his career if he keeps fighting the losers from his season of TUF. I mean, who’s next? Mike Stine? Soloman Hutchinson? Danny Abadi? Seriously. UFC 100 main event will probably be in the tri-state area and feature Bisping vs Ed Herman for a chance to be the #12 contender in the MW division and see who gets to fight Kendall Grove to be #10 in the division.

[quote comment=”296184″][quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

I guess I agree somewhat’
Maybe Leban and Mcfedries are to tuff of a fight for his 1st MW, But MCcarthy????…c’mon! They could of sent Bisping here to Canada to fight someone better then that tomato…[/quote]

True… i do ultimately agree with you… But from one aspect Dana gets more fights out of Bisbing which is more $$, and the UFC couldn’t make a case to have him fight top guys, wouldn’t be fair on other fighters..

Anyways, you never know. McCarthy may whoop his ass, then where will he and Dana be

[quote comment=”296192″][quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

But McCarthy is actually a step or two BELOW being a can. He defeats himself mentally before stepping foot into the octagon. He is from the same season of TUF (season 3) and lost his very first fight on the show. He should not be fighting the TUF winner from the same season. That is just riduculous. If this fight were to ever happen, it should have happened during season 3 cuz Bisping should have been at 185.

Forrest Griffin’s 3rd fight after winning TUF season 1 was against Tito Ortiz. Michael Bisping faced Ravishing Red, Elvis freaking Sinosic and then Matt Hamill in his 3rd fight after winning TUF 3. The same Hamill that competed in Season 3 of TUF. Who is Bisping fighting next? Charles McCarthy from TUF season 3. Bisping will never be able to advance his career if he keeps fighting the losers from his season of TUF. I mean, who’s next? Mike Stine? Soloman Hutchinson? Danny Abadi? Seriously. UFC 100 main event will probably be in the tri-state area and feature Bisping vs Ed Herman for a chance to be the #12 contender in the MW division and see who gets to fight Kendall Grove to be #10 in the division.[/quote]

I couldn’t agree more…
Great break-down.
From compairing Griffin and Bisping’s opponant selection in their following fights after winning the show to the fact that MCcarthty is worthy of being considered “a step or two BELOW a can”…..funny stuff. Especially the “UFC 10″ event, for contender spots…

[quote comment=”296214″][quote comment=”296184″][quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

I guess I agree somewhat’
Maybe Leban and Mcfedries are to tuff of a fight for his 1st MW, But MCcarthy????…c’mon! They could of sent Bisping here to Canada to fight someone better then that tomato…[/quote]

True… i do ultimately agree with you… But from one aspect Dana gets more fights out of Bisbing which is more $$, and the UFC couldn’t make a case to have him fight top guys, wouldn’t be fair on other fighters..

Anyways, you never know. McCarthy may whoop his ass, then where will he and Dana be :)[/quote]

Yup’
The UFC likes to help out the TUFF winners as much as they can..

[quote comment=”296192″][quote comment=”296162″][quote comment=”296132″]He is right. He should have started his MMa career, or even his UFC/Tuff debut, at 185lbs….

I wish the UFC didn’t give him a can for his 1st MW fight.
It would have been good to se him fight Leban or Mcfedries…
Not Mcar??? whats his name agian????[/quote]
I know all you guys wanna feed him to the wolves but realistically… How can he fight top guys in the division on his first fight when he hardly caused any ripples in 205.. He’s not Dan Henderson know what i mean..He still has to work his way up…and now he’s at the bottom again..if he gets 2 or 3 wins against cans in the division then you will all get your wish.. in the mean time, stop playing yourself. I mean where do you think he is in the rankings for 185? Exactly[/quote]

But McCarthy is actually a step or two BELOW being a can. He defeats himself mentally before stepping foot into the octagon. He is from the same season of TUF (season 3) and lost his very first fight on the show. He should not be fighting the TUF winner from the same season. That is just riduculous. If this fight were to ever happen, it should have happened during season 3 cuz Bisping should have been at 185.

Forrest Griffin’s 3rd fight after winning TUF season 1 was against Tito Ortiz. Michael Bisping faced Ravishing Red, Elvis freaking Sinosic and then Matt Hamill in his 3rd fight after winning TUF 3. The same Hamill that competed in Season 3 of TUF. Who is Bisping fighting next? Charles McCarthy from TUF season 3. Bisping will never be able to advance his career if he keeps fighting the losers from his season of TUF. I mean, who’s next? Mike Stine? Soloman Hutchinson? Danny Abadi? Seriously. UFC 100 main event will probably be in the tri-state area and feature Bisping vs Ed Herman for a chance to be the #12 contender in the MW division and see who gets to fight Kendall Grove to be #10 in the division.[/quote]
Very true… put like that i see your point, i do share your feelings too i just see how the UFC can make a case for this scenario. All of what you said aside… Bisbing is still new in 185 and should start from the bottom.

LOL…C.McCarthy a step below can.

Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL

[quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

Great analysis on Forrest and Bispings opponents after TUF!
He goes from Fighting Rashad (and putting up a better fight then expected) to McCarthy…What a joke! I am so sick of the UFC babying him…its getting to be a bit much. Let the man fight. I dont just blame the UFC but I blame him….he needs to step up, open his mouth and tell Dana to give him a decent opponent! Until then he will be known as Micheal “the can crusher” Bisping!

Shogun vs. the Iceman will be the main event for UFC 85 in London

Also dana said the UFC is considering coming out with their own rankings….about Time!

[quote comment=”296303″]Shogun vs. the Iceman will be the main event for UFC 85 in London

Also dana said the UFC is considering coming out with their own rankings….about Time![/quote]

Time to sell the car and buy some cage-side tickets!

[quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

HAHA..that is too funny…
People seriously have to start calling him that..I know I will..

[quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

HAHA that is funnier then Sherk’s “typical friday night” standing outside a mensroom with a queer-bait, sporting his new STD…..

Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy…..LOL
People seriously have to start calling him that…..I know I will.

[quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

BTW??
Does anyone remember what nickname the other fighters in the house gave this fool???

[quote comment=”296301″][quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

Great analysis on Forrest and Bispings opponents after TUF!
He goes from Fighting Rashad (and putting up a better fight then expected) to McCarthy…What a joke! I am so sick of the UFC babying him…its getting to be a bit much. Let the man fight. I dont just blame the UFC but I blame him….he needs to step up, open his mouth and tell Dana to give him a decent opponent! Until then he will be known as Micheal “the can crusher” Bisping![/quote]

Right, I don’t ever want to hear someone say that its not Bisping’s fault that he faces srubs, its the UFC’s. Because its not. As a matter of fact, theres a guy with one year experience and one fight under his belt. He requested to fight a former champ, and got his wish. Bisping could have and SHOULD have turned down the fight with McCarthy and called it an insult. If you want and ask for tough opponents, you will get them. I guarantee that Nate Diaz won’t be fighting the likes of Terry Etim in his next fight. Nate will be fighting a contender becuase he is confident in his skills and not afraid of his opponents. On the other hand, Bisping gets chased out of the 205 lb division by a deaf division 3 wrestler and is back to square one in a new division fighting fighters that don’t even deserve to be in the UFC, nevermind the televised portion of a PPV. I REALLY wish that the UFC would make this fight a preliminary bout!!!!

[quote comment=”296333″][quote comment=”296301″][quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

Great analysis on Forrest and Bispings opponents after TUF!
He goes from Fighting Rashad (and putting up a better fight then expected) to McCarthy…What a joke! I am so sick of the UFC babying him…its getting to be a bit much. Let the man fight. I dont just blame the UFC but I blame him….he needs to step up, open his mouth and tell Dana to give him a decent opponent! Until then he will be known as Micheal “the can crusher” Bisping![/quote]

Right, I don’t ever want to hear someone say that its not Bisping’s fault that he faces srubs, its the UFC’s. Because its not. As a matter of fact, theres a guy with one year experience and one fight under his belt. He requested to fight a former champ, and got his wish. Bisping could have and SHOULD have turned down the fight with McCarthy and called it an insult. If you want and ask for tough opponents, you will get them. I guarantee that Nate Diaz won’t be fighting the likes of Terry Etim in his next fight. Nate will be fighting a contender becuase he is confident in his skills and not afraid of his opponents. On the other hand, Bisping gets chased out of the 205 lb division by a deaf division 3 wrestler and is back to square one in a new division fighting fighters that don’t even deserve to be in the UFC, nevermind the televised portion of a PPV. I REALLY wish that the UFC would make this fight a preliminary bout!!!![/quote]

I agree,
The UFC should have never had this fight put together, But since it is, It should be a pre-fight..

I was hopeing for more of a “block-buster” card for my first event…They could of filled the CanCrusher/Tupperware fight with a couple top fighters for the Canadian fans.. I was really hopeing that the UFC would send some ex-PrideFC fighters here, for I am(was) a die-hard PrideFC fan….

…………Man I miss PrideFC..from the ring announcer to the 16 man tournaments…….

[quote comment=”296333″][quote comment=”296301″][quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

Great analysis on Forrest and Bispings opponents after TUF!
He goes from Fighting Rashad (and putting up a better fight then expected) to McCarthy…What a joke! I am so sick of the UFC babying him…its getting to be a bit much. Let the man fight. I dont just blame the UFC but I blame him….he needs to step up, open his mouth and tell Dana to give him a decent opponent! Until then he will be known as Micheal “the can crusher” Bisping![/quote]

Right, I don’t ever want to hear someone say that its not Bisping’s fault that he faces srubs, its the UFC’s. Because its not. As a matter of fact, theres a guy with one year experience and one fight under his belt. He requested to fight a former champ, and got his wish. Bisping could have and SHOULD have turned down the fight with McCarthy and called it an insult. If you want and ask for tough opponents, you will get them. I guarantee that Nate Diaz won’t be fighting the likes of Terry Etim in his next fight. Nate will be fighting a contender becuase he is confident in his skills and not afraid of his opponents. On the other hand, Bisping gets chased out of the 205 lb division by a deaf division 3 wrestler and is back to square one in a new division fighting fighters that don’t even deserve to be in the UFC, nevermind the televised portion of a PPV. I REALLY wish that the UFC would make this fight a preliminary bout!!!![/quote]

Quite a Bisping fan i see…

Point taken to some extent but the problem is the m/w division is so lop sided. There is no real middle ground.

I don’t think he should have been thrown in there with Okami or Franklin yet as its his first fight at the weight. Other than that there is nothing really apart from ex TUF’s.

Give him a break and let him walk through McCarthy then match him up with Tanner/McDonald.

To be fair to Bisping he has fought strong wrestlers in last two fights, clearly the weakest part of his game. So he is hardly tailoring his opponents to his strengths.

Oh Violent One, a small correction. Your comments about taking on the losers from the same show he was on is off. McCarthy was on season four, a season featuring UFC veterans which at least says something about a slightly better level of 1st round competition. He also was arguably winning before getting hit with that sickening kick in his fight with the Crow, who was considered at the time a title contender. (Your view on his mental state: on the money. He beats himself most of the time.)

Meanwhile, Bisping was in trouble (however briefly it may have been) vs. Schafer and Sinosic who will never be mistaken for contenders. We also know the majority opinion on his victory vs. Hamill. The UFC may not be babying him at all. They just realize he isn’t ready for a higher level opponent. They will milk it as long as they can for the European draw.

This could be a better fight than anticipated but I still hope McCarthy pulls out with an injury soon (like before they find that opponent for Cote).

[quote comment=”296333″][quote comment=”296301″][quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

Great analysis on Forrest and Bispings opponents after TUF!
He goes from Fighting Rashad (and putting up a better fight then expected) to McCarthy…What a joke! I am so sick of the UFC babying him…its getting to be a bit much. Let the man fight. I dont just blame the UFC but I blame him….he needs to step up, open his mouth and tell Dana to give him a decent opponent! Until then he will be known as Micheal “the can crusher” Bisping![/quote]

Right, I don’t ever want to hear someone say that its not Bisping’s fault that he faces srubs, its the UFC’s. Because its not. As a matter of fact, theres a guy with one year experience and one fight under his belt. He requested to fight a former champ, and got his wish. Bisping could have and SHOULD have turned down the fight with McCarthy and called it an insult. If you want and ask for tough opponents, you will get them. I guarantee that Nate Diaz won’t be fighting the likes of Terry Etim in his next fight. Nate will be fighting a contender becuase he is confident in his skills and not afraid of his opponents. On the other hand, Bisping gets chased out of the 205 lb division by a deaf division 3 wrestler and is back to square one in a new division fighting fighters that don’t even deserve to be in the UFC, nevermind the televised portion of a PPV. I REALLY wish that the UFC would make this fight a preliminary bout!!!![/quote]

I couldn’t agree more with a post…well said!

Dana really needs to bring back PRIDE for at least 1 tournament a year… I would sell my car and fly my ass to japan for a lightweight, welterweight or Light Heavyweight UFC/Pride tournament. Just imagine a 16 man tournament with the current roster of UFC fighters in those 3 divisions…It would go down as the greatest tournament EVER, and there have been some good one’s in the past!

Do you guys seriously expect a british fighter to turn down fights set up by the UFC?? even the poor calibre fighters??

Get real!!!! its hard enough for british fighters to get into the lucrative UFC scene without being fussy at the same time.

Bisping is on cloud nine that he is even in the UFC, he aint about to start causing ripples in the UFC by turning down fights

I think the MW division is getting a little better. Michael will have to work his way up. I know that the UFC want to get a string of wins out of him to keep the UK fanbase fully interested. However I’d imagine MB is less than enthused with fighting a no namer. I could envisage him mixing it with the likes of a J-Mac. That’s probably the level he is at. But the top guys are Anderson, Hendo, Franklin, Marquardt, Okami and maybe Almeida. I don’t know I could be forgetting someone. There’s six guys right there that are better than Michael at the moment I reckon. It will still be tough for him.

Maybe Wanderlei will be joining the party soon too!

mccarthy was actually on tuf 4….

[quote comment=”296332″][quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]

BTW??
Does anyone remember what nickname the other fighters in the house gave this fool???[/quote]

Captain Miserable

[quote post=”4820″]Quite a Bisping fan i see… [/quote]

LOL, How can you tell?

[quote post=”4820″]Oh Violent One, a small correction. Your comments about taking on the losers from the same show he was on is off. McCarthy was on season four, a season featuring UFC veterans which at least says something about a slightly better level of 1st round competition. He also was arguably winning before getting hit with that sickening kick in his fight with the Crow, who was considered at the time a title contender. (Your view on his mental state: on the money. He beats himself most of the time.)[/quote]

PJJ, Thank you very much!!! You are spot on. Kids at home, don’t smoke weed - it messes with your memory!!!

[quote post=”4820″]Point taken to some extent but the problem is the m/w division is so lop sided. There is no real middle ground.
I don’t think he should have been thrown in there with Okami or Franklin yet as its his first fight at the weight. Other than that there is nothing really apart from ex TUF’s.
Give him a break and let him walk through McCarthy then match him up with Tanner/McDonald.[/quote]

The MW division is of course the weakest, but they coul have put him up againt someone that is at least active in the UFC, not against TupperWare McCarthy. I think that MacDonald would have been the perfect fight for Bisping to begin his new career at 185. If/when he gets by McCarthy, I am very curious at to who he will be matched up with next…

[quote comment=”296284″]Charles “TupperWare” McCarthy.

TupperWare = one step below a can.

You heard it here first.

LOL[/quote]
Bravo…That’s a good’n

who cares you both suck.