Now that is just stupid and they say Tito is not worth his current pay………..at least he has a proven PPV record and not some guy that got famous for some fake wrestling.

Now this is almost as much as Chuck and he has been in the UFC for how long? Dana is smoking something.

Jo: take a marketing class or two. Brock’s worth the cash.

he had to pay brock lesnar that much money because that is the kind of money brock is used to in the wwe.. I do agree it is unfair to the veterans of ufc though

brock lesnar does NOT deserve to fight former hw champ frank mir. he’s only had 1 pro mma fight. the ufc is investing way to much money into him. to much hype for lesnar. frank will sumbit him. & dats a guarantee

Brock has had like 1 fight and he is generating as much hype or more than Tito or Chuck. Besides, Tito and Chuck are past their prime. Let the new blood take over.

Brock is money in the bank cuz he is bringing a different audience with him to the UFC.

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sure brock is getting alot of money, but thats how it should be. i’m going to pay 50 bucks to see the fight, and i’m sure many other wrestling fans will to. there is so much hype around this fight. brocks worth the pay, and i can’t wait to see him kick mir’s ass. brock wins, TKO by ref. stoppage 3:20 in the first round!

[quote comment=”290679″]Brock is money in the bank cuz he is bringing a different audience with him to the UFC.[/quote]

Yup that’s true. Many of us disagree about how much he should get paid, so the final PPV revenue will tell us if he’s really worth all that money.

sting gets 500,000 dollars a year in tna wrestling. and brock gets the chance to make that in one night.

Yeah, he is unproven, but he will make the UFC much more than 450 grand on this ppv. the hype for a guy with 1 fight may be a little out of hand, but he will bring in a crowd, and sell views.

If 1000 people will pay $1 to see the bearded lady and only 100 people will pay to see the wolf boy, shouldn’t the smart business man pay the bearded lady more money to show up at the carnival?

All the WWE fans from the 2000 onwards are grown up with cash to spend. Dana isn’t stupid its just another way of UFC getting more PPV money, thats why there are more & more PPV events each year.

We all bitch but still buy them.

the guy that brings more people to watch has to be paid more, that’s the only fairness that means something.

fook me - imagine what they will pay angle to step in - probably a mill pre fight

Now i understand better why hes fighting Frank Mir. They set up such a terrible match up like Mir so he wouldn’t have to pay that bonus. Plus it brings in that new audience and shows them that UFC fighters can destroy their idols. Mir is going to crush Lesnar in the first minute with a scary submission. Guaranteed.

[quote comment=”290650″]brock lesnar does NOT deserve to fight former hw champ frank mir. he’s only had 1 pro mma fight. the ufc is investing way to much money into him. to much hype for lesnar. frank will sumbit him. & dats a guarantee[/quote]

People can knock Lesnar all they want, but remember that Mir-Sylvia was turned down by the Athletic Commission, but Mir-Lesnar was not.

[quote comment=”291048″]the guy that brings more people to watch has to be paid more, that’s the only fairness that means something.[/quote]

so when Canada sells out and breaks attendance records GSP is looking at a massive pay raise. He got 160,000 to beat matt hughes in Dec and is top MMA fighters in the world. Brock walks in and get 250? hope Mir breaks his arm

I am sick of all you that cry about the fighters pay. The truth is the fighters would not even be known if they did not have the UFC. This is a business and they are employees no matter how you slice it. At work you get paid by what you can provide for the company in returned profits. If you efforts despite great or not, must balance what you make for the company in order for you to be paid accordingly. If it is so bad in the UFC than why do they still fight there. People always forget how bad they wanted a job when they first came looking and become complacent.

Go Mir!

wow. frank mir came ripped to the weigh ins this time. I think Brock is all done.

Damn that’s a lot of cash for a guy with only a few minutes of pro MMA experience! I agree that business wise it may be smart for the UFC to pay him that amount of money, but is it smart long-term business wise? Granted Brock is somewhat of an unknown at this point but the hype can only last so long. There are a lot of great fighters who bring in the long time mma fans that are not making anything close to that.

I realy hope Mir wins by submission, but I must admit I am nervous.

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sure brock is getting alot of money, but thats how it should be. i’m going to pay 50 bucks to see the fight, and i’m sure many other wrestling fans will to. there is so much hype around this fight. brocks worth the pay, and i can’t wait to see him kick mir’s ass. brock wins, TKO by ref. stoppage 3:20 in the first round![/quote]

Exactly. Like it or not, you get paid in this business based on how much money you can draw. Some people draw a lot of money because they’re really skilled (e.g. Fedor) and others because they’ve got charisma and showmanship (e.g. Tito).

[quote post=”4787″]There are a lot of great fighters who bring in the long time mma fans that are not making anything close to that.[/quote]

Exactly, that’s because the audience they bring in are ALREADY fans. Brock is gonna bring a new audience to the UFC. If you want to make money, you have to make people either love you or hate you. There’s gonna be a lot of fans who want to see Brock win, but there are also a lot fans who want to see Brock get his ass kicked, and that’s money in the bank.

BJ Penn made his MMA debut in the UFC, and look at him now. Of course, being a monster in BJJ is different than being a monster in wrestling.

To Dana White it was a business move and I think a pretty smart one at that. He now has wrestling fans interested in MMA. My Mom who is a huge wrestling fan and never interested in MMA, asked me what time the fights would be on because she is going to plunk down the fee to watch Brock…Note she has never once been over to the house to watch the fights but now all the sudden. Win or lose Dana’s signing of Brock is a plus for the business of MMA/UFC.

I thought Brock looked quite nervous at the weigh-ins. Of course I would expect him to. Mir looks in shape. Going with Francisco on this one.

[quote comment=”290631″]Jo: take a marketing class or two. Brock’s worth the cash.[/quote]

I see the marketing strategy behind the move but what I am saying is that he has no proven record in MMA other than the one lame fight in K-1. I think it is stupid that Dana is paying someone, that has yet to fight on a single UFC card, that amount which is equivalent to Chuck. Chuck, Wandy, Tito, Randy all have a proven record in the MMA game and also has proven PPV # behind their fights. Many of these fighters have also helped Dana bring the UFC to where it is today, it is not just Dana. If he had no talent he would have NOTHING to market. If he had nothing to market he would have an empty octagon in an empty arena and no PPV buys. So from a business stand point I think Dana is making a bad move to pay someone new (with no proven mma record) the same as his elite fighters right out of the gate. Let them work their way up and make them prove them selves just like the other did.

War MIR

That’s a lot of cash. His record is not worth it but who’s everyone talking about…. Tim the bore Sylvia? Nope. Minatauro? Nope. Le? YES. He’s worth the cash cos of the fans he’ll bring even just for this 1 event. And should he win, he’s going to be on course to be the highest earner ever in MMA. Frank Mir could ruin MASSIVE $$$s tonight

Brock making that much is disrespectful to every fighter who has helped build that company including Randy Couture.

Brock looks a little sick in that picture. Hes kinda green.

I don’t care how much more money Brock can possibly bring in, or how much he used to get paid. There’s no way he should be making this much more money than people who have worked thier whole lives to get where they are today. He’s put a whole 2 years into MMA (not counting his wrestling back in the day) and there’s people who have put a lot more than 2 years into not only MMA but the UFC itself. It’s disrespectful, but it’s also business.

[quote comment=”291496″][quote comment=”290631″]Jo: take a marketing class or two. Brock’s worth the cash.[/quote]

I see the marketing strategy behind the move but what I am saying is that he has no proven record in MMA other than the one lame fight in K-1. I think it is stupid that Dana is paying someone, that has yet to fight on a single UFC card, that amount which is equivalent to Chuck. Chuck, Wandy, Tito, Randy all have a proven record in the MMA game and also has proven PPV # behind their fights. Many of these fighters have also helped Dana bring the UFC to where it is today, it is not just Dana. If he had no talent he would have NOTHING to market. If he had nothing to market he would have an empty octagon in an empty arena and no PPV buys. So from a business stand point I think Dana is making a bad move to pay someone new (with no proven mma record) the same as his elite fighters right out of the gate. Let them work their way up and make them prove them selves just like the other did.

War MIR[/quote]

Sorry hardcore fans, but if you walk down the street and ask people who Wanderlei Silva is, most people have no idea. Brock Lesnar was a star on one of the highest rated cable programs in America. People know his name. Non Hardcore MMA fans will buy this fight out of curiosity. They wont do that for some guy who primarily fought in Japan. I will bet that this PPV will get more buys than almost any other fight card the UFC has ever had. Win or Lose, Brock is the draw here. People will not spend 50 dollars to watch your average Frank Mir fight. And although Hardcore UFC fans probably buy every PPV anyways, even a world class fighter like FEDOR wouldn’t get this much publicity, simply because Joe Average on the streets has no idea who he is. Brock “The Gerber Gorilla” Lesnar is getting more mainstream news coverage for the UFC than virtually any fighter in their history. That = CASH. Win or Lose.

i didn’t care too much about this fight until finding out how much $$$ Brock is getting. i hope mir sends him away with his tail between his legs. i understand why Dana is giving Brock a pay check like this from a business point of view but if he’s going to do that then he should send some money out to fighters like Fitch. In comparison to other professional athletes, ufc fighters get paid next to nothing!

If Brock is getting paid that much money, and Mir kicks his ass, then Dana will be as big of a brainless idiot as Brock.

Brock is a circus show - THAT IS NOT WHAT MMA SHOULD BE ABOUT. But Dana and the brothers want the instant cash, instead of what is right for the sport long term.

Jo: apparently you don’t see the marketing strategy. The marketing dictates that paying him good money is a worthwhile move, regardless of everything else you mention. It also isn’t like he’s paying a ton of money to a guy who could be a hack: Lesnar is certain to be a serviceable HW, just based on his athleticism, wrestling background, and dedication. As long as he’s good enough to make main cards, at the worst he’ll be overpayed a little bit. At best, he’ll make the UFC a fortune.

[quote comment=”291266″]wow. frank mir came ripped to the weigh ins this time. I think Brock is all done.[/quote]

He looked the same way when he got KOd in 5 seconds by Vera.

[quote comment=”291552″]If Brock is getting paid that much money, and Mir kicks his ass, then Dana will be as big of a brainless idiot as Brock.

Brock is a circus show - THAT IS NOT WHAT MMA SHOULD BE ABOUT. But Dana and the brothers want the instant cash, instead of what is right for the sport long term.[/quote]
What if brock wins? Is he still a circus show? To me that will be more than enough proof to say that he can be a contender in the HW division.

[quote comment=”291261″]I am sick of all you that cry about the fighters pay. The truth is the fighters would not even be known if they did not have the UFC. This is a business and they are employees no matter how you slice it. At work you get paid by what you can provide for the company in returned profits. If you efforts despite great or not, must balance what you make for the company in order for you to be paid accordingly. If it is so bad in the UFC than why do they still fight there. People always forget how bad they wanted a job when they first came looking and become complacent.[/quote]

Ditto! That’s American capitalism at work. Hoffa is in the ground, leave him there.

SO YOU all SEE that RANDY COUTURE HAD A FREAKINGGGG POINT!?!?!?!?!!?

MMA MANIA:
THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
this is messed up how dissproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?!

Maybe Frank Mir will get Tim Sylvia to come in the ring and help beat Brock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg2hsNU8uRg

Brock will win. He will choke Mir and win his 2nd MMA fight. Go Gophers!

I like Mir as the next guy, but can’t wait until Lesnar kick’s his ass. The guy is a freaking animal in the gym (did anyone see all access?), and a former NCAA national champion. I have a ton of friends who watch WWE, and they are all getting this fight (They have never watched it before). It will mean big money for the UFC, and overall more money for all the fighters. Give it a rest until after the fight tonight.

BROCK LESNAR, YOU GOT BEAT.

What do you expect with only one fight under your belt. If your not well rounded 9 AND YOU ARE NOT), you ain’t got jack. So spend about 5 years training in everything, and give us a ring when your ready to compete.

[quote comment=”291822″]Brock will win. He will choke Mir and win his 2nd MMA fight. Go Gophers![/quote]

HAHAHAHA. Brock lost. Technique over strength wins again.

[quote comment=”291677″]MMA MANIA:
THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
this is messed up how dissproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?![/quote]

Most of you have no idea what your talking about. Brock is good for the UFC no matter what. You ask golfers what they think about Tiger Woods. He draws in a crowd and that draws is bigger sponsers which in the end makes more money for everybody in golf. Same thing is going to happen for the UFC. I have never paid for a PPV UFC fight but I did tonight. I thought brock was going to win but I knew he shouldn’t of went on the ground with Mir. He should of just beat his ass for 3 rounds if mir could’ve lasted that long. BROCK WILL BE BACK AND WILL NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. HE WILL NOT BE SUB’ed again.

Brock won’t win ANY of his next fights, he’s a pro wrestler, not an MMA fighter. TOO MANY HOLES IN HIS GAME, BROCK CAN LOOSE 100′S OF DIFFERENT WAYS. This is MMA, not a “bum rush” cage match.

Brocks only purpose was to get 1,000’s of fake wrestling suckers to shell out $45 for last nights and future PPV. It worked.