Comments on: UFCs Frank Mir on ‘adequate’ fighter pay http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:50:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: RobH86 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291417 RobH86 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:14:14 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291417 The spoon bit was hilarious. The spoon bit was hilarious.

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291395 john Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:00:16 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291395 Is Brock Lesnars married SABLE? Is Brock Lesnars married SABLE?

]]> By: Pat http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291340 Pat Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:27:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291340 [quote post="4785"]BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again....o yeah some guy with like 12 fucken losses. Gomi should come to the ufc doh just so he can rape the talent then leave.[/quote] BJ already tooled Gomi. BJ has fought FAR better competition than Sherk. Who the hell has Sherk beaten? Oh, a green Kenny Florian and a teenaged Karo Parisyan. What a resume. [quote post=”4785″]BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again….o yeah some guy with like 12 fucken losses. Gomi should come to the ufc doh just so he can rape the talent then leave.[/quote]

BJ already tooled Gomi. BJ has fought FAR better competition than Sherk. Who the hell has Sherk beaten? Oh, a green Kenny Florian and a teenaged Karo Parisyan. What a resume.

]]> By: SixT-4 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291336 SixT-4 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:27:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291336 Lol Frank Mir is an awesome guy. Lol Frank Mir is an awesome guy.

]]> By: Freddy http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291291 Freddy Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:03:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291291 With 66G's you'd think he'd buy a cooler looking couch.... With 66G’s you’d think he’d buy a cooler looking couch….

]]> By: blackBEERd http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291203 blackBEERd Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:33:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291203 that's a big ass dog. that’s a big ass dog.

]]> By: Matt http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291164 Matt Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:50:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-291164 [quote post="4785"]Almost all the top ranked 10 LW in the world ARE NOT in the UFC. BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again...[/quote] Penn has already fought Gomi, and Penn battered him... [quote post=”4785″]Almost all the top ranked 10 LW in the world ARE NOT in the UFC. BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again…[/quote]

Penn has already fought Gomi, and Penn battered him…

]]> By: Kahaluu Caz! http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290887 Kahaluu Caz! Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:40:13 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290887 "Almost all the top ranked 10 LW in the world ARE NOT in the UFC. BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again....o yeah some guy with like 12 fucken losses. Gomi should come to the ufc doh just so he can rape the talent then leave". BJ Penn IS THE BEST POUND FOR POUND ON EARTH! oh yea...and he smashed Gomi already. Oh one more guy Matt Hughes who smashed Shawn "the roid shark Sherk" LOMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Almost all the top ranked 10 LW in the world ARE NOT in the UFC. BJ shouldnt be ranked even top 3 until he beats the real champ SHERK who the hell did he beat again….o yeah some guy with like 12 fucken losses. Gomi should come to the ufc doh just so he can rape the talent then leave”.

BJ Penn IS THE BEST POUND FOR POUND ON EARTH! oh yea…and he smashed Gomi already. Oh one more guy Matt Hughes who smashed Shawn “the roid shark Sherk” LOMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: MMA Wallpapers SF http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290865 MMA Wallpapers SF Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:24:37 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290865 cool vid. thanks for the vid. :) cool vid. thanks for the vid. :)

]]> By: zulu9812 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290791 zulu9812 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:26:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/02/01/ufcs-frank-mir-on-adequate-fighter-pay/#comment-290791 [quote comment="290673"]66K is very nice considering the brevity of their work and they have the right to fight 3-5x per year, realistically 2-4 times per. I mean aside from their extra bonuses and sponsors, their not working very long in the octagon "usually" only a few minutes. If they happen to be a Ranyd, Chuck, or Rampage i.e. a superstar then they deserve more, but not the Oscar De La Hoya/Mike Tyson money. They shouldn't get obscene amounts like 20-30 million per because that would taint the sport and skew it like boxing where people get lazy and unmotivated and fight nobodies. If your starting out, I see nothing wrong with an up and comer only getting 2-5K...I mean they have to establish themselves first.[/quote] The fighting isn't the only part of working. The real work for the fighter is the training that they do every day: that's what consumes most of their time and that is what the fight money pays for. For an example, say a mixed martial artist fights 4 times a year, earning 3K for each appearance and a further 3K for a win. Assuming that this exemplar fighter wins all 4 fights, he's taking home US$24,000 for that year. To put that in British terms, that's £12,000, which is almost minimum wage. It's very hard to maintain a family and/or a household on that kind of money. Now, a fighter can get another job - a 'real' job, if you will - but that's time taken off from training. That loss in training might well lead to losses in the cage, which could lead to a loss of contract and thus loss of livelihood. Fighters should get paid a decent amount of fight money, because it pays for their year-round training. But on top of that, they should also get a percentage of PPV money, and/or merchandising (inc. DVD sales) - they can put that money to their retirement fund, for when they can no longer fight. I agree that getting tens of millions to fight, like some boxers do is ridiculous. It's especially galling for a mixed martial artist, because MMAs practise real fighting and could probably take any boxer. At the end of the day, fighters are the draw. They bring in the crowds, it's their fights that sell the DVDs. Fighters should be getting paid a lot more than what are currently. [quote comment=”290673″]66K is very nice considering the brevity of their work and they have the right to fight 3-5x per year, realistically 2-4 times per. I mean aside from their extra bonuses and sponsors, their not working very long in the octagon “usually” only a few minutes. If they happen to be a Ranyd, Chuck, or Rampage i.e. a superstar then they deserve more, but not the Oscar De La Hoya/Mike Tyson money. They shouldn’t get obscene amounts like 20-30 million per because that would taint the sport and skew it like boxing where people get lazy and unmotivated and fight nobodies. If your starting out, I see nothing wrong with an up and comer only getting 2-5K…I mean they have to establish themselves first.[/quote]

The fighting isn’t the only part of working. The real work for the fighter is the training that they do every day: that’s what consumes most of their time and that is what the fight money pays for. For an example, say a mixed martial artist fights 4 times a year, earning 3K for each appearance and a further 3K for a win. Assuming that this exemplar fighter wins all 4 fights, he’s taking home US$24,000 for that year. To put that in British terms, that’s £12,000, which is almost minimum wage. It’s very hard to maintain a family and/or a household on that kind of money. Now, a fighter can get another job - a ‘real’ job, if you will - but that’s time taken off from training. That loss in training might well lead to losses in the cage, which could lead to a loss of contract and thus loss of livelihood. Fighters should get paid a decent amount of fight money, because it pays for their year-round training. But on top of that, they should also get a percentage of PPV money, and/or merchandising (inc. DVD sales) - they can put that money to their retirement fund, for when they can no longer fight.

I agree that getting tens of millions to fight, like some boxers do is ridiculous. It’s especially galling for a mixed martial artist, because MMAs practise real fighting and could probably take any boxer.

At the end of the day, fighters are the draw. They bring in the crowds, it’s their fights that sell the DVDs. Fighters should be getting paid a lot more than what are currently.

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