Man I hope Shogun whoops Chuck’s fat ass!

“I can exchange with him and finish this fight standing.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let’s not forget Shogun has much potential, his training just has to accomodate for the CARDIO and strenght standards of the UFC, theyre much higher than when he fought easier comptetition in PRIDE.

SHOGUN is still my favorite fighter

[quote comment="289891"]“I can exchange with him and finish this fight standing.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i said it b4 n i’l say it again – Shogun is FUK’D ! – he should have asked for Jardine

Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.

‘wow that is going to be a great fight but i think chuck will finish him late in the 2nd round.

Yesssssssss, another awesome fight.

I was praying they would have these 2 fight instead of having Chuck/Jardine 2.

chuck either knocks him out or dominates him for three rounds like he did to silva. then he will be granted a title shot.

This is a win/win matchup for the UFC LHW division…it’s basically a #1 contenders match because either way the winner makes for a good hyped fight against Rampage or even Forrest.

Forrest/Liddell…teacher/student from TUF1
Forrest/Shogun…rematch
Rampage/Shogun…rematch from Pride where Shogun fed knees to Page.
Rampage/Liddell…rematch…again.

I think Chuck, if the right Chuck shows up….he should no problem at all picking him apart and eventually KO’ing him. Bad fight for Rua. 0-2 is not the way to start in the UFC

TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!!

[quote comment="289915"]I think Chuck, if the right Chuck shows up….he should no problem at all picking him apart and eventually KO’ing him. Bad fight for Rua. 0-2 is not the way to start in the UFC[/quote]
tru dat

OMG!!!

[quote comment="289896"]Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.[/quote]

I hear that. Call me crazy but I think Shogun also has a great shot at taking Chuck down, but he has to do it after 1st setting it up with leg kicks and strikes, or get a ju jitsu trip on chuck, off of a clinch.

People seem to think Shogun has bad Cardio, or that he hasnt faced tough competition. I dont see it that way at all. I remember Shogun beating a very tough opponent, Noguerra’s twin brother Rogerio in a 20 minute war, that I think won fight of the year. Shogun is also much bigger then wanderlei and I think the size advantage played a major role in chuck beating wanderlei. Chuck wont be able to enjoy that kind os size advantage against shogun.

This is a great match up. This will be an even better fight then Chuck vs. Wanderlei. I cant wait for this fight. My birthday is in June and if this fight takes place in Vegas, I might have to make a trip out there. This is a mega fight, that IMO is up there with Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.

Keep in mind its been 3 fights since Chuck KO anybody. Is the mistiqe of the Iceman melting away? This is a great fight that can go either way, but i would have to side with Shogun on this 1.

[quote comment="289921"][quote comment="289896"]Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.[/quote]

I hear that. Call me crazy but I think Shogun also has a great shot at taking Chuck down, but he has to do it after 1st setting it up with leg kicks and strikes, or get a ju jitsu trip on chuck, off of a clinch.

People seem to think Shogun has bad Cardio, or that he hasnt faced tough competition. I dont see it that way at all. I remember Shogun beating a very tough opponent, Noguerra’s twin brother Rogerio in a 20 minute war, that I think won fight of the year. Shogun is also much bigger then wanderlei and I think the size advantage played a major role in chuck beating wanderlei. Chuck wont be able to enjoy that kind os size advantage against shogun.

This is a great match up. This will be an even better fight then Chuck vs. Wanderlei. I cant wait for this fight. My birthday is in June and if this fight takes place in Vegas, I might have to make a trip out there. This is a mega fight, that IMO is up there with Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.

Keep in mind its been 3 fights since Chuck KO anybody. Is the mistiqe of the Iceman melting away? This is a great fight that can go either way, but i would have to side with Shogun on this 1.[/quote]

wow for a second I thought I was reading a book.

Between this and the Canada fights, we’ve got a pretty good year coming up. Oh, I forgot about Silva/Hendo. Awesome!

WOW

Hell yes this fight will be sweetttttttttttt! too bad for shogun if he think he will win standing.

http://www.mmafightline.com Directr quote:

Dana White To Randy Couture: “Come on Captain America, step up and be a man.”
By Jason Perkins | February 01, 2008

Dana White To Randy Couture: “Come on Captain America, step up and be a man.”
Randy Couture has stated repeatedly over the past few months that he will not step foot in the octagon again unless it’s against Fedor Emelianenko. But that doesn’t seem to stop Dana White from trying. White spoke to The Canadian Press recently and issued the following:

“Come on Captain America, step up and be a man and give these guys the opportunity to win the title,”

“He’s the heavyweight champion. He signed a contract with us less than a year ago and I expect him to honour it. And I expect him to be a standup guy and give these guys the opportunities they gave him.”

[quote comment="289909"]This is a win/win matchup for the UFC LHW division…it’s basically a #1 contenders match because either way the winner makes for a good hyped fight against Rampage or even Forrest.

Forrest/Liddell…teacher/student from TUF1
Forrest/Shogun…rematch
Rampage/Shogun…rematch from Pride where Shogun fed knees to Page.
Rampage/Liddell…rematch…again.[/quote]
good point

Bad style match for shogun, chuck by ko. I think if Chuck beats Shogun then he will be second or third in line for the shot…I would like to see Machida vs Jardine for first in line to kill two birds with one stone, but it looks like machida will fight Tito, and Jardine will fight ???..It looks like its a good thing the belt is on hold for awhile so the 205 can work itself out who the contenders are, they are going to have to keep fighting and winning against top competition anyways, since Rampage or Forrest cant fight every couple of moths against whichever #1 contender it is a the time

[quote comment="289924"][quote comment="289921"][quote comment="289896"]Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.[/quote]

I hear that. Call me crazy but I think Shogun also has a great shot at taking Chuck down, but he has to do it after 1st setting it up with leg kicks and strikes, or get a ju jitsu trip on chuck, off of a clinch.

People seem to think Shogun has bad Cardio, or that he hasnt faced tough competition. I dont see it that way at all. I remember Shogun beating a very tough opponent, Noguerra’s twin brother Rogerio in a 20 minute war, that I think won fight of the year. Shogun is also much bigger then wanderlei and I think the size advantage played a major role in chuck beating wanderlei. Chuck wont be able to enjoy that kind os size advantage against shogun.

This is a great match up. This will be an even better fight then Chuck vs. Wanderlei. I cant wait for this fight. My birthday is in June and if this fight takes place in Vegas, I might have to make a trip out there. This is a mega fight, that IMO is up there with Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.

Keep in mind its been 3 fights since Chuck KO anybody. Is the mistiqe of the Iceman melting away? This is a great fight that can go either way, but i would have to side with Shogun on this 1.[/quote]

wow for a second I thought I was reading a book.[/quote]

A MMA True Story.

Uh-oh….this might be a bad move for Chuck.

Everyone will forget about the Wandy win if he gets destroyed by Shogun, which could happen…on the other side, if he beats Shogun, he should get a title shot after.

Risky…but props to the Iceman for stepping up and taking on a top contender

Also: Micheal Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy has been added to UFC 83 in Canada.

Great fight!! Let’s see what Chuck’s got left in the tank.

Mann!! I really like Chuck, but this time I cant go with my heart, I think shogun is going to win.

[quote comment="289934"]Uh-oh….this might be a bad move for Chuck.

Everyone will forget about the Wandy win if he gets destroyed by Shogun, which could happen…on the other side, if he beats Shogun, he should get a title shot after.

Risky…but props to the Iceman for stepping up and taking on a top contender[/quote]

Shogun? destroying? this is not Steroid Pride FC, its UFC, and it was him who was more than destroyed, he was submitted!

[quote post="4775"]This is a great match up. This will be an even better fight then Chuck vs. Wanderlei. I cant wait for this fight. My birthday is in June and if this fight takes place in Vegas, I might have to make a trip out there. This is a mega fight, that IMO is up there with Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.[/quote]

This is definitely up there with Hendo v. Silva. These are the healiners the UFC needs. I think 2008 is going to end up having some of the best fights of all time. Hendo v. Silva, Liddell v. Shogun and Sherk v. Penn are going to happen before 2008 is half over. The possibilities for the second half of 2008 are endless.

not to long ago most of you where saying chuck is done,now he is going to kill shogun.i don’t think so, shogun can knock him out on his feet or beat him on the ground.say what you want but where going to see is the good thing i am glad he is fighting shogun and not jardine thats for sure and if he can beat shogun than he deserves the title shot.

This is going to be an easy win for liddell if shogun comes as prepared as he did for forrest griffin. If shogun could not out strike griffin I do not know how he plans on standing with liddell. My prediction is TKO for liddell in the second round.

He don’t underestimate Shogun’s striking. He has big wins standing up even over Rampage. Also remember Chuck didn’t do so hot standing against Keith Jardine, and that was mainly because of a lot of leg kicks, which Shogun cna handle and on the ground its no competition.

This is a dream matchup….cannot wait for June now. c’mon Shogun.

[quote comment="289937"]Also: Micheal Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy has been added to UFC 83 in Canada.[/quote]

That’s an awful fight…83 is looking pretty weak…come on Joe Silva…save this card with a better #2 match than Franklin/Lutter.

[quote comment="289953"][quote post="4775"]This is a great match up. This will be an even better fight then Chuck vs. Wanderlei. I cant wait for this fight. My birthday is in June and if this fight takes place in Vegas, I might have to make a trip out there. This is a mega fight, that IMO is up there with Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson.[/quote]

This is definitely up there with Hendo v. Silva. These are the healiners the UFC needs. I think 2008 is going to end up having some of the best fights of all time. Hendo v. Silva, Liddell v. Shogun and Sherk v. Penn are going to happen before 2008 is half over. The possibilities for the second half of 2008 are endless.[/quote]

I agree. Good year to be a UFC fan.
By the way Frankie edgar vs. Gray Maynard added to UFN 13 card

Thinking about it, the UFC is giving Liddell the fighters that Rampage wanted to face and defeat! That must be circling Rampage’s head and must have him fuming that it was Liddell who got them and not him, just remember how upset he was when Liddell beat Silva, he was pissed off, no imagine, he gets Shogun and all Rampage can do is watch. If Liddell beas Shogun, Rampage if still holding the belt WILL WANT Liddell!!

[quote comment="289917"]TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!![/quote]

I think if you rewatched the fight you would agree with those of us who have (Griffin / Rua fans alike) and would agree the fight was a lot closer than you originally may have thought. Even if Shogun didn’t tap I still think Forrest gets the decision, I am not crazy, but to say he got beat “BADLY” is wrong…

Well Rua asked for it so I hope he is 100% as he is claiming, and I hope he exacts revenge on Chuck like he did Arona

[quote comment="289917"]TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!![/quote]

Shogun beat Forrest down 1st round EASLY winning! Second round he was kicking Forrest ass till about mid way when he fully gased.
MY DREAM MATCH UP IS FINALLY HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats up with these Steroid accusations? It doesn’t help promote MMA’s positive light when fans are making baseless accusations like this

We shold leave these accusations to Commissions and /or guys like Hendo who “were there” and have more insight than us…

[quote comment="289895"][quote comment="289891"]“I can exchange with him and finish this fight standing.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i said it b4 n i’l say it again – Shogun is FUK’D ! – he should have asked for Jardine[/quote]
excuse me genius but didnt jardine beat chucks butt rua wants this fight cause its easier then a jardine fight face it my pal chuck is a over-rated fighter whos best times are done

[quote comment="289968"]Thinking about it, the UFC is giving Liddell the fighters that Rampage wanted to face and defeat! That must be circling Rampage’s head and must have him fuming that it was Liddell who got them and not him, just remember how upset he was when Liddell beat Silva, he was pissed off, no imagine, he gets Shogun and all Rampage can do is watch. If Liddell beas Shogun, Rampage if still holding the belt WILL WANT Liddell!![/quote]
chucks gets what he wants cause he gives dana oral pleasure

[quote comment="289978"][quote comment="289895"][quote comment="289891"]“I can exchange with him and finish this fight standing.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i said it b4 n i’l say it again – Shogun is FUK’D ! – he should have asked for Jardine[/quote]
excuse me genius but didnt jardine beat chucks butt rua wants this fight cause its easier then a jardine fight face it my pal chuck is a over-rated fighter whos best times are done[/quote]

I just LOLd all over the floor. I dont even know what to say to this, The Ice Man was the most dominating LHW cahmp ever, he was the matt hughes of the LHW division. So he hit a few wakes in the water recently. He will recoop. Page Chuck 3 – Chuck takes his belt back.

[quote comment="289937"]Also: Micheal Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy has been added to UFC 83 in Canada.[/quote]

Are you fuckin serious? Wow, I can’t believe how obvious this is. If I was as skilled a fighter as the count i would be embarrased. This is where the competition part of loving the sport starts to take a back seat to money.

What a let down. Worse trade, Shogun for Bisping.

i hope chuck can ko shogun. he could probably be in rampages head if he beat both guys who destroyed rampage. but then again rampage is in liddells head. if liddell does fight rampage again, i dont care who wins,i love liddell and rampge is reppin memphis for us

[quote comment="289962"]He don’t underestimate Shogun’s striking. He has big wins standing up even over Rampage. Also remember Chuck didn’t do so hot standing against Keith Jardine, and that was mainly because of a lot of leg kicks, which Shogun cna handle and on the ground its no competition.[/quote]

Comparing Jardine’s style with Shogun’s? They are about at opposite as Royce Gracie and Cabbage.

Jardine was a matchup nightmare for Liddel. Jardine sits back and kicks the shit out of you. Liddel is a counterpuncher that likes to have the action pressed.

Rua comes forward right at you. Very aggressive. He wont sit back and just kick.

And he and Jardine are similar?

I hope Chuck loses big time.

It’s about time Chuck followed his fellow former title holders i.e. Matt Hughes and Rich Franklin by stepping aside and letting the unpredicatble exciting fighters through.

I hope it’s not another $500,000.00 vs $14,000.00 payday scenario either

[quote comment="290025"]I hope Chuck loses big time.

It’s about time Chuck followed his fellow former title holders i.e. Matt Hughes and Rich Franklin by stepping aside and letting the unpredicatble exciting fighters through.

I hope it’s not another $500,000.00 vs $14,000.00 payday scenario either[/quote]

and come tomorrow night you can add big tim into that list (I know, I know, he already lost to randy, but randy doesn’t want to fight anymore, he knows he can’t fight fedor because it’s never going to happen. he decided to call it quits when he was on top of the game and in no way is going to agree to a fight where he could possibly loose)

Already looking forward to June…

As a fan, 2008 (well, beginning Dec. 29th 2007) will be the year we remember – Champion vs Champion, PRIDE vs UFC…

The loser of this fight will find themselves in a tough spot, and possibly contemplating their career in the UFC. Shogun would be 0-2 fighting in the octagon. I can just imagine what all the PRIDE haters would be saying if that were to happen. If Chuck loses, I don’t see him EVER making another run at the title. This is do or die time for both fighters. Who wants it more? Does Chuck want to re-gain his status as UFC LHW champion or does Shogun want to step out of the shadows of Wanderlei Silva and prove that he is the greatest Brazilian Chute Box fighter (note: Wanderlei no longer trains with Chute Box). Shogun would have gotten title shots in PRIDE, but since Wanderlei was champ, he did not want. He would not fight his best friend. If Shogun wants to wear a UFC belt, he MUST defeat Chuck Liddell in impressive fashion (not Keith Jardine style, Rampage style)

Yeah I agree, time to pass the torch Chuck. I hope Shogun is in prime fighting shape and comes out to demolish Chuck, pick up where Wandy left off again.

Shogun is great at mui thai and bjj but Forest took shoguns best and choked him out so what does that say about rua(taking nothing away from forest). Everyone thinks because of chucks two loses that he’s past it. All the great fighters take a slump and chuck showed in devastating fashion against wandy that he’s back. Chuck i hope you wade through rua and get the rematch with Rampage. You’ve done more for the UFC than Royce Gracie,Shamrock,Severn or Big Daddy put together.

shogun via ko

shogun is awesome but the way he fought griffin if he fights like that again he will loss, i hope the june card is a freebie i think the fans deserve it, but awesome fight

Man tough welcome for Shogun in the UFC. In all fairness though, Forrest fought like a man possesed.

I think Chuck has an easier fight here than he did with Wanderlei. If Shogun wants to keep it standing, he can go ahead and add another loss to his record.

[quote comment="290055"]Already looking forward to June…

As a fan, 2008 (well, beginning Dec. 29th 2007) will be the year we remember – Champion vs Champion, PRIDE vs UFC…

The loser of this fight will find themselves in a tough spot, and possibly contemplating their career in the UFC. Shogun would be 0-2 fighting in the octagon. I can just imagine what all the PRIDE haters would be saying if that were to happen. If Chuck loses, I don’t see him EVER making another run at the title. This is do or die time for both fighters. Who wants it more? Does Chuck want to re-gain his status as UFC LHW champion or does Shogun want to step out of the shadows of Wanderlei Silva and prove that he is the greatest Brazilian Chute Box fighter (note: Wanderlei no longer trains with Chute Box). Shogun would have gotten title shots in PRIDE, but since Wanderlei was champ, he did not want. He would not fight his best friend. If Shogun wants to wear a UFC belt, he MUST defeat Chuck Liddell in impressive fashion (not Keith Jardine style, Rampage style)[/quote]

I gotta disagree. I think Chuck has more riding on the line here. Shogun is still young and can bounce back easily with a loss. Chuck on the other hand would be surrounded in controversy if he loses, about just how good he really is or isnt.

[quote comment="290055"]Already looking forward to June…

As a fan, 2008 (well, beginning Dec. 29th 2007) will be the year we remember – Champion vs Champion, PRIDE vs UFC…

The loser of this fight will find themselves in a tough spot, and possibly contemplating their career in the UFC. Shogun would be 0-2 fighting in the octagon. I can just imagine what all the PRIDE haters would be saying if that were to happen. If Chuck loses, I don’t see him EVER making another run at the title. This is do or die time for both fighters. Who wants it more? Does Chuck want to re-gain his status as UFC LHW champion or does Shogun want to step out of the shadows of Wanderlei Silva and prove that he is the greatest Brazilian Chute Box fighter (note: Wanderlei no longer trains with Chute Box). Shogun would have gotten title shots in PRIDE, but since Wanderlei was champ, he did not want. He would not fight his best friend. If Shogun wants to wear a UFC belt, he MUST defeat Chuck Liddell in impressive fashion (not Keith Jardine style, Rampage style)[/quote]

I agree that 2008 could end up with the greatest compilation of fights. I think we are finally going to see the culmination of UFC’s purchase of Pride this year. I really think a lot of the Pride guys are going to make some noise this year. I think the transition into the UFC for the Pride guys is more difficult then we recognize. The guys from Pride who are finding success are either American or fought in other promotions before coming to the UFC. I give guys like CroCop the benefit of the doubt and hope that he can acclimate to the UFC and have a career resurgance.

the winner of this fight will be whoever shows up in better shape wanting the win…period

GONNNA BE AWESOME!!!!

Shogun is only like 26 years old….Thats scary!

Also Shogun doesnt train at Chute box any more either

It will be a great matchup. Both Chuck and Shogun are willing to fight anyone that is offered to them and both have whipped some tough guys. If chuck was so over the hill he would be fighting Chumps to decisions.( I guess the Jardine fight would be the only example, before the haters bring that up.) Chucks still exciting to watch, he’s capable of beating a lot of top 205 guys. Shogun lost to Griffen, but it was a pretty exciting fight. I doubt Shogun will gas this time around. I can understand hating a Bisping type guy, but what has a guy like Chuck ever done wrong for the sport?

So you guys are talking all this about Liddell beating Shogun…. HAHAHAHA…. Maybe, those that feel as if Liddell will win. Go research on what a ACL injury can do to you… Griffen only won the fight because if it… Mark my word Shogun is going to kick the hell out of Liddell and I look so forward to it… Ranked #2 in LHW (Shogun) will go up in ranking very soon…

I pray Shogun pounds out Liddell, would make my whole year.

[quote comment="289975"][quote comment="289917"]TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!![/quote]

Shogun beat Forrest down 1st round EASLY winning! Second round he was kicking Forrest ass till about mid way when he fully gased.
MY DREAM MATCH UP IS FINALLY HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Who are you? Shoguns agent? Chuck will beat him like a pig

THIS MADE MY DAY. ICEMAN BY BRUTAL KO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote comment="290191"]So you guys are talking all this about Liddell beating Shogun…. HAHAHAHA…. Maybe, those that feel as if Liddell will win. Go research on what a ACL injury can do to you… Griffen only won the fight because if it… Mark my word Shogun is going to kick the hell out of Liddell and I look so forward to it… Ranked #2 in LHW (Shogun) will go up in ranking very soon…[/quote]

We can argue about what injuries do to fighters all day long. The point is that Forrest beat Shogun that night. I’m sure Shogun would do much better in a rematch but what happend happen.

I have a really bad feeling Shogun is getting KTFO in the 1st round. I’m a Shogun fan and would love to see him win but I do also realise that he was overrated in his Pride days. What I’m saying is I like his style and I think he’s an exciting fighter but Chuck is a nightmare for him. I think this could be one to add to Chuck’s highlight reel. I seriously hope I’m wrong.

FROZEN SHOGUN … ICEMAN ON TOP

Bad matchup for Shogun, although he can win. He ain’t doing it by taking Chuck down, though.

Note to the morons all over who seem to think Chuck can be beaten by taking him down: please stop talking, you look foolish. The only way anybody has beaten Chuck this century is by kicking his ass on the feet. Sometimes it gets finished on the ground, but it always starts by beating Chuck in the kickboxing.

[quote comment="290324"]I have a really bad feeling Shogun is getting KTFO in the 1st round. I’m a Shogun fan and would love to see him win but I do also realise that he was overrated in his Pride days. What I’m saying is I like his style and I think he’s an exciting fighter but Chuck is a nightmare for him. I think this could be one to add to Chuck’s highlight reel. I seriously hope I’m wrong.[/quote]

You are wrong nigga… Shogun will beat the hell out of liddell…

Unfortunately, Liddell will probably beat Shogun in the same way he beat Silva – with straight punches, the one thing Shogun has going for him is that he has longer arms than Silva and will probably land more.

Either way it’s going to be a great fight

Chuck KO’s him in the second. Easy money

HUWWOOOWWW!!!!!!!!!

It depends on who shows up… focused and ready Chuck or not… Shogun in shape, or not.

All things being equal, I think Chuck will come out on top again.

[quote comment="289891"]“I can exchange with him and finish this fight standing.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
i agree….alot of laughter here too…..u couldnt finish forest dude….chuck is 10 levels higher when it comes to boxing…better try to get to the ground..but i hope u stand there in front of chuck so he makes a punching bag out of you

i hope huerta comes back on this card, maybe fight winner of florian/lauzon.that would be a cool #1 contender match,then of corse liddell will get a title shot if he wins and shogun get tito/machida if he wins. jardine face needs beat alexander if he beats irvin.

[quote comment="290467"]Chuck KO’s him in the second. Easy money[/quote]
who are u dana white u sound alot like chucks girl…how can over-rated chuck ko rua in the 2nd when rua makes sure over-rated chuck doesnt see the 2nd round

[quote comment="289896"]Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.[/quote]
The only way Shogun beats Chuck is standing with him. Just ask Tito and Wandy how those ELBOWS feel when you get to close in the clinch. The question is , can Showgun take the beating Wandy took and still stay standing. I think Chuck got a little to cocky and started to feel invincible, but he got a wake up call with back to back losses. Chuck’s back on track and it’s going to be hard to stop him.

[quote comment="289962"]He don’t underestimate Shogun’s striking. He has big wins standing up even over Rampage. Also remember Chuck didn’t do so hot standing against Keith Jardine, and that was mainly because of a lot of leg kicks, which Shogun cna handle and on the ground its no competition.[/quote]
To say someone is better than Chuck on the ground is a moot point. When was the last time he was on the ground and when was the last time he was subbmited?

[quote comment="289977"]Whats up with these Steroid accusations? It doesn’t help promote MMA’s positive light when fans are making baseless accusations like this

We shold leave these accusations to Commissions and /or guys like Hendo who “were there” and have more insight than us…[/quote]
Baseless? Just because you didn’t notice the size and aggression difference from his Pride fights, some others did. It’s no secret that his camp likes to use the JUICE.

This could play out to be an interesting fight. Chuck seems to have an obvious advantage, but I’m kinda scared that Chuck will lose.

[quote comment="290057"]Yeah I agree, time to pass the torch Chuck. I hope Shogun is in prime fighting shape and comes out to demolish Chuck, pick up where Wandy left off again.[/quote]
Yep, he will pick up right where Wandy left off, TAKING A BEATING. LOL

[quote comment="289917"]TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!![/quote]

While Liddell may win, your reasoning that he’ll win because [B]“Shogun got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter”[/B] is flawed. The fact that Shogun lost to Forrest will have no effect on the outcome of a fight between Shogun and Liddell. MMA math doesn’t always work out. [griffin > shogun, so liddell > shogun]

[quote comment="290191"]So you guys are talking all this about Liddell beating Shogun…. HAHAHAHA…. Maybe, those that feel as if Liddell will win. Go research on what a ACL injury can do to you… Griffen only won the fight because if it… Mark my word Shogun is going to kick the hell out of Liddell and I look so forward to it… Ranked #2 in LHW (Shogun) will go up in ranking very soon…[/quote]
Or… you will have another excuse when he loses.

Gord, you know nothing about mma.

[quote comment="290603"][quote comment="290191"]So you guys are talking all this about Liddell beating Shogun…. HAHAHAHA…. Maybe, those that feel as if Liddell will win. Go research on what a ACL injury can do to you… Griffen only won the fight because if it… Mark my word Shogun is going to kick the hell out of Liddell and I look so forward to it… Ranked #2 in LHW (Shogun) will go up in ranking very soon…[/quote]
Or… you will have another excuse when he loses.[/quote]
gord i agree easy win fo rua…even though id rather see over-rated chuck get beat down by thiago silva…after chucky gets beat down and over-rated rashad loses to thiago maybe the battle of over-rated chumps can fight rashad vs chucky

gord i agree easy win fo rua…even though id rather see over-rated chuck get beat down by thiago silva…after chucky gets beat down and over-rated rashad loses to thiago maybe the battle of over-rated chumps can fight rashad vs chucky

My god man just go blow thiago silva will you,All the post relating to this fight all you have done is go on about him….Do you love him?

Anyway life begins in june this fight is gona be HUGE and to be fair it should go the distance……..but im very bias so Chuck by KO

Shogun isnt even in his Prime yet, so regardless of what happens against Liddell, he will wear the UFC belt eventually. I see Shogun stopping the Iceman in this one… 2nd rd tko!

Shogun was not the Shogun from Pride when he fought Griffin. Anderson Silva said himself that he did not train or have the focused he usually has when his going to have a match, the reason being that he recently got married and started slacking.Usually you try to make both things work equally, but Hopefully with his last lost he has to think, its either my fighting or marrige.

[quote comment="291215"]Shogun isnt even in his Prime yet, so regardless of what happens against Liddell, he will wear the UFC belt eventually. I see Shogun stopping the Iceman in this one… 2nd rd tko![/quote]

Yup, people always seem to forget that he’s only 26.

Pat presents a “Shit, that was a long time ago” moment:

Just to put into perspective how long BJ has stayed among the elite of MMA, when BJ had his first ever title shot, that same night, Murilo Bustamante defeated Dave Menne to become the UFC Middleweight Champion. Shit, that was a long time ago.

bad idea to have rampage fight griffin at end of tuf, some guys like jardine and machida will get the shaft and not get a title shot at all this year if chuck wins, or shogun i mean why even fight at all this year if not to get a shot at the belt now

[quote comment="289896"]Mania Vet John seemed to of hit what the UFC is wanting to do for Chuck..if Chuck can beat the two fighters that destroyed Page in JApan..that be their case for making him the next in line to fight for the belt after Page/Forrest.

To bad Chuck is fighting Shogun..who ever feels that his last outing best represents Shogun..you’re truely mistaken. Shogun will beat Chuck..that is the only way is it ending up.[/quote]

This is so true.

[quote comment="289917"]TO ALL SHOGUN SUPPORTERS. Remember this man your “Shogun” got his ass kicked badly by Griffin, BADLY!! Out of shape, gased, and just a sorry fighter. OK, DON’T FORGET! Liddell will beat him like a pig! Liddell beat the Master and now he will beat the Apprentice, trying to avenge his Master’s loss!
Liddell by KTFO!![/quote]

When Chuck loses I will put this post up.

[quote post="4775"]Shogun? destroying? this is not Steroid Pride FC, its UFC, and it was him who was more than destroyed, he was submitted! [/quote]

You should think b4 making accusations like “Steroid Pride FC”. Also yes SHOGUN DESTROYING does sound like the typical Shogun fight and you would know that if you’ve seen him fight..Ohh and stop discrediting b/c of his last loss. To think just b/c Chuck is a better fighter than forest that chuck will destroy Shogun cuz remember that Rampage got his ass kicked horribly by Shogun and Rampage beat the living shit out of Chuck TWICE..

You guys sound like a bunch of women. Rua had a hurt leg, Rua just got married, Rua had diarrea. The dude got beat down ALL 3 rounds. Move on. Bunch of old women making excuses.

Blaming a loss on an injury is weak! Jardine is no chump. And I believe Chuck does want to pass the torch. He realizes he’s only got a few years left in him. I think I’ve heard him make similar comments to that end before. He beat Silva. Next will be Shogun. Then Page. And he will then defend his title against Jardine and possibly Griffin. After that, he’s done. There’s no one else in LHW that would be worth fighting for Chuck. That’s what I believe his plan is, anyway. He’s riding a big wave similar to when he was the unstoppable champion. It took Kieth Jardine to wake him up IMO.

[quote comment="290573"][quote comment="289977"]Whats up with these Steroid accusations? It doesn’t help promote MMA’s positive light when fans are making baseless accusations like this

We shold leave these accusations to Commissions and /or guys like Hendo who “were there” and have more insight than us…[/quote]
Baseless? Just because you didn’t notice the size and aggression difference from his Pride fights, some others did. It’s no secret that his camp likes to use the JUICE.[/quote]

What you mean to say is its no secret that Juanito Ibarra accused the Chute box fighters for taking steroids just because they demolished his beloved Rampage..Gord your baseless rebutle just goes to prove how baseless these accusations are.

[quote comment="290358"]Bad matchup for Shogun, although he can win. He ain’t doing it by taking Chuck down, though.

Note to the morons all over who seem to think Chuck can be beaten by taking him down: please stop talking, you look foolish. The only way anybody has beaten Chuck this century is by kicking his ass on the feet. Sometimes it gets finished on the ground, but it always starts by beating Chuck in the kickboxing.[/quote]

Im sorry man but I do have to point out that Randy beat chuck by taking him down b/c there was no way that he could compare to his kickboxing.. Also in Pride FC Rampage and Chuck were looking pretty much even until Rampage decided to take him down and beat him up there.

I am not biased in any way but from an odds point of view shogun is not going to win. Chuck although older has more experience, technique, knock out power and better training(watch ufc all access). Rua has great grappling as we saw in the forrest fight watching him roll into guard and looking for arms but i doubt he will get the chance to take chuck down. Chuck has superb take down defence and it looks like the only Rua has a chance is if he keeps it standing. Unless Rua trains intensly on striking and increasing his punching power and accuracy he has no chance but then again thats what i said about Serra vs GSP 1. I am going with KO for Liddell in the 2nd round. I cannot wait to see Rampage’s face when he has to fight Liddell again. Also looking forward to one of the Silva’s vs Jardine.

Shogun second round by k.o. quit thinking mma is all about americans fighters with pride fighters in it change the whole game. You’ve seen chuck win many fights FIND but before talking shit on rua take a good hard look at his career and you’ll see this guy is just a monster he have done so much in pride and he was the youngest fighter. I was also disapointed by his physical condition in the griffin fight but getin maried 3 weeks before its something i dont call it an excuse but its a fact the guy is not a robot he had more fun than training the month before the fight its obvious. For the steroids he fought 2 times in Las vegas he have been tested 2 times negative just like fedor so quit it. Open your eyes there are good fighters everywhere in the world not only in USA look at the belt owner in ufc right now 3/5 ex pride fighter.
n.b: I know my english is horrible its not my first language.

Why do people think that if Chuck wins he will walk through Rampage or the Rampage is scared of him. He kicked his ass twice and after the fight with Hendo he seems like he is becoming a more complete fighter. Lidell is a great fighter but hes getting old and I’m not sure he has what it takes to get his belt back.

i think chuck will win this fight, i would like to see shogun put him in a thai clinch and see how chuck handles it,maybe a ko loss much like silva vs franklin,wanderlei vs jackson or shogun vs jackson,all great fighters who suffered ko losses due to that particular clinch other wise i think chuck takes it

i dont know if liddell could beat jackson, but i dont think jackson would knock him out, liddell just beat a much heavier handed fighter and won, i know they focused on keeping his chin down more cuz of the power and for the 3rd fight they will also and more striking a lot less worries about takedowns.boxing and lots of hand speed.

forrest will get his ass kicked by page,im anticipating a much better shogun for this fight, not real shogun in last fight maybe future rematch but this fight will be a great fight of strikers, shogun is not well known for his fucking ground game, hes known for his standup. rayo is a dumbass,yes gun beat page, page beat liddell 2x silva beat page 2x and liddell just beat silva, its a viscious circle and thats all there is to it

SSSSSSHHHHHHHOOOOOOGGGGGGGUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN…….. It should be a great fight, however, however, SHOGUN will beat down liddell and then you SHOGUN haters will stop drinking the hatorade… Again, he is the the best out there…. Mark my quote he will be focused and ready for this one, especially since liddell just beat one of his partners….

#1 SHOGUN FAN…

Can’t believe all the shit people are talking about shogun. seems eveytime a top level fighter loses everyone jumps off of the bandwagon. 1 fight does not determine how good a fighter is. don’t forget after chucks losses to rampage and jardine everyone was saying the same bullshit. These are 2 of the greatest fighters in the history of mma! Can’t wait to see it!

chuck issssssssssssssssssssssss bbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk