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	<title>Comments on: Josh Burkman to Mike Swick: &#8216;Sometimes you forget things when you&#8217;re scared!&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Quick hit: MMAmania.com exclusive interview with UFC fighter Mike Swick at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick hit: MMAmania.com exclusive interview with UFC fighter Mike Swick at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MMAmania.com: What do you have to say about his post-fight comments that you were &#8220;scared&#8221;? Mike Swick: He is delusional. I knew he would talk after the fight. Thats just his thing, he is not a top level fighter so he has to convince people of how good he thinks he is. He has to sell himself because he knows his performance isn&#8217;t selling anything. Bottom line, he is not as strong as the top welterweights, he does not have the best takedowns in the division, and he doesn&#8217;t have the elite standup that he thinks he has. He is a man who is realizing that he doesn&#8217;t have any qualities that will rise him to the top of this division. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MMAmania.com: What do you have to say about his post-fight comments that you were &#8220;scared&#8221;? Mike Swick: He is delusional. I knew he would talk after the fight. Thats just his thing, he is not a top level fighter so he has to convince people of how good he thinks he is. He has to sell himself because he knows his performance isn&#8217;t selling anything. Bottom line, he is not as strong as the top welterweights, he does not have the best takedowns in the division, and he doesn&#8217;t have the elite standup that he thinks he has. He is a man who is realizing that he doesn&#8217;t have any qualities that will rise him to the top of this division. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mmaer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you could have picked a more flattering picture of Burkman, he looks like freakin&#039;  Gollum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you could have picked a more flattering picture of Burkman, he looks like freakin&#8217;  Gollum.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At some point their has to be a &quot;fight as a whole&quot; criteria added to the scoring system. Should what happens in round one count as much as what happens in round 3 (after fatigue and Damage kicks in)? I dont think so, but as of now that is the reality of the scoring system. I think it is very flawed and it needs to be changed, if not altered!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point their has to be a &#8220;fight as a whole&#8221; criteria added to the scoring system. Should what happens in round one count as much as what happens in round 3 (after fatigue and Damage kicks in)? I dont think so, but as of now that is the reality of the scoring system. I think it is very flawed and it needs to be changed, if not altered!</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;286744&quot;][quote comment=&quot;286592&quot;]hmmmm.  I&#039;d love to give that a read, because at the beginning of every UFC event, I&#039;m pretty sure they put the rules of the octagon on the screen and say that the judges judge the fight equally on .........  But of course I could be wrong, my memory has served me incorrectly on many more than one occassion.........

Does anyone have the official ruling on this.[/quote]

VM..here you go.

(a) All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges.

(b) The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a
bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded
to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to
the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).

(c) Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as
effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area,
effective aggressiveness and defense.

(d) Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques
appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective
striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and
effective aggressiveness and defense.

(e) Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of
legal heavy strikes landed by a contestant.

(f) Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of
successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of
factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount
position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position
fighters using an active, threatening guard.

(g) Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the
pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider
are countering a grappler&#039;s attempt at takedown by remaining standing
and legally striking ; taking down an opponent to force a ground fight;
creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve
mount, and creating striking opportunities.

(h) Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal
strike.

(i) Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or
reversed while countering with offensive attacks.

(j) The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the
judges when scoring a round;

1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants
appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear
dominance in a round;

2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a
close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes,
grappling and other maneuvers;

3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant
overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally
dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

(k) Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time
the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:

1. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the
canvas, then:
i. Effective grappling is weighed first; and
ii. Effective striking is then weighed

2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing,
then:
1. Effective striking is weighed first; and
2. Effective grappling is then weighed

3. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas
fighting, striking and grappling are weighed equally.[/quote]

THANK YOU very much Phil!!!!  I never read that before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="286744"][quote comment="286592"]hmmmm.  I&#8217;d love to give that a read, because at the beginning of every UFC event, I&#8217;m pretty sure they put the rules of the octagon on the screen and say that the judges judge the fight equally on &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  But of course I could be wrong, my memory has served me incorrectly on many more than one occassion&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone have the official ruling on this.[/quote]</p>
<p>VM..here you go.</p>
<p>(a) All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges.</p>
<p>(b) The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a<br />
bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded<br />
to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to<br />
the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).</p>
<p>(c) Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as<br />
effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area,<br />
effective aggressiveness and defense.</p>
<p>(d) Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques<br />
appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective<br />
striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and<br />
effective aggressiveness and defense.</p>
<p>(e) Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of<br />
legal heavy strikes landed by a contestant.</p>
<p>(f) Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of<br />
successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of<br />
factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount<br />
position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position<br />
fighters using an active, threatening guard.</p>
<p>(g) Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the<br />
pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider<br />
are countering a grappler&#8217;s attempt at takedown by remaining standing<br />
and legally striking ; taking down an opponent to force a ground fight;<br />
creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve<br />
mount, and creating striking opportunities.</p>
<p>(h) Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal<br />
strike.</p>
<p>(i) Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or<br />
reversed while countering with offensive attacks.</p>
<p>(j) The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the<br />
judges when scoring a round;</p>
<p>1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants<br />
appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear<br />
dominance in a round;</p>
<p>2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a<br />
close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes,<br />
grappling and other maneuvers;</p>
<p>3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant<br />
overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.</p>
<p>4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally<br />
dominates by striking or grappling in a round.</p>
<p>(k) Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time<br />
the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:</p>
<p>1. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the<br />
canvas, then:<br />
i. Effective grappling is weighed first; and<br />
ii. Effective striking is then weighed</p>
<p>2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing,<br />
then:<br />
1. Effective striking is weighed first; and<br />
2. Effective grappling is then weighed</p>
<p>3. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas<br />
fighting, striking and grappling are weighed equally.[/quote]</p>
<p>THANK YOU very much Phil!!!!  I never read that before.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;286668&quot;][quote comment=&quot;286647&quot;]If fighter A gets all of his takedowns stuffed by fighter B I believe A still gets a slight edge.

1.  He is exibiting aggression.
2.  He is exibiting ring control.
3.  He is keeping fighter B from throwing any offense.

[/quote]

I respectfully disagree.  I think fighter B has proven to be the superior fighter and tactician.  I would even argue that he is exhibiting more control.  He is controlling both his body and his opponents.  Fighter A, on the other hand, cannot control his opponent and is being controlled himself.[/quote]

what the hell a &amp; b stuff. burkman didn&#039;t do anything but get his takedowns stop all night. burkman didn&#039;t have ring control other wish the fight would have been on the ground way more then the couple of seconds that it was. burkman is in love with his own voice. he dosen&#039;t know when 2 shut up. burkman sucks put him in the WEC! just get rid of him so they don&#039;t have himtake up room on the fight card. stop takedowns &amp; win against him &amp; with him u know there coming. yea swick wasn&#039;t throwing like liddell but he did do enough 2 win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="286668"][quote comment="286647"]If fighter A gets all of his takedowns stuffed by fighter B I believe A still gets a slight edge.</p>
<p>1.  He is exibiting aggression.<br />
2.  He is exibiting ring control.<br />
3.  He is keeping fighter B from throwing any offense.</p>
<p>[/quote]</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree.  I think fighter B has proven to be the superior fighter and tactician.  I would even argue that he is exhibiting more control.  He is controlling both his body and his opponents.  Fighter A, on the other hand, cannot control his opponent and is being controlled himself.[/quote]</p>
<p>what the hell a &#038; b stuff. burkman didn&#8217;t do anything but get his takedowns stop all night. burkman didn&#8217;t have ring control other wish the fight would have been on the ground way more then the couple of seconds that it was. burkman is in love with his own voice. he dosen&#8217;t know when 2 shut up. burkman sucks put him in the WEC! just get rid of him so they don&#8217;t have himtake up room on the fight card. stop takedowns &#038; win against him &#038; with him u know there coming. yea swick wasn&#8217;t throwing like liddell but he did do enough 2 win.</p>
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		<title>By: RHV</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh is a punk making excuses. Any way you slice it, the fight sucked. 

Both of them should have done more to win the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh is a punk making excuses. Any way you slice it, the fight sucked. </p>
<p>Both of them should have done more to win the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;286744&quot;][quote comment=&quot;286592&quot;]hmmmm.  I&#039;d love to give that a read, because at the beginning of every UFC event, I&#039;m pretty sure they put the rules of the octagon on the screen and say that the judges judge the fight equally on .........  But of course I could be wrong, my memory has served me incorrectly on many more than one occassion.........

Does anyone have the official ruling on this.[/quote]

VM..here you go.

(a) All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges.

(b) The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a
bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded
to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to
the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).

(c) Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as
effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area,
effective aggressiveness and defense.

(d) Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques
appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective
striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and
effective aggressiveness and defense.

(e) Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of
legal heavy strikes landed by a contestant.

(f) Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of
successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of
factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount
position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position
fighters using an active, threatening guard.

(g) Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the
pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider
are countering a grappler&#039;s attempt at takedown by remaining standing
and legally striking ; taking down an opponent to force a ground fight;
creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve
mount, and creating striking opportunities.

(h) Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal
strike.

(i) Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or
reversed while countering with offensive attacks.

(j) The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the
judges when scoring a round;

1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants
appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear
dominance in a round;

2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a
close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes,
grappling and other maneuvers;

3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant
overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally
dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

(k) Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time
the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:

1. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the
canvas, then:
i. Effective grappling is weighed first; and
ii. Effective striking is then weighed

2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing,
then:
1. Effective striking is weighed first; and
2. Effective grappling is then weighed

3. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas
fighting, striking and grapplin

What a bunch of mumbo jumbo! How are u supposed to judge a fight like this. I understand wanting to make this a sport but at some point there has to be a criteria for the fight as a whole...After all at the end of the day this is still a fight! What happens in round 1 should not count as much as what happens in round 3, after the fighters incur all that damage, and they start gassing. Ift hey would judge the fight as a whole more weight could be given to what happens in the later rounds, but with this 10 point must scoring system you just cant do that. I dont claim to have all the answers but what I do know is that this system is really flawed and changes need to take place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="286744"][quote comment="286592"]hmmmm.  I&#8217;d love to give that a read, because at the beginning of every UFC event, I&#8217;m pretty sure they put the rules of the octagon on the screen and say that the judges judge the fight equally on &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;  But of course I could be wrong, my memory has served me incorrectly on many more than one occassion&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone have the official ruling on this.[/quote]</p>
<p>VM..here you go.</p>
<p>(a) All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges.</p>
<p>(b) The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a<br />
bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded<br />
to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to<br />
the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).</p>
<p>(c) Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as<br />
effective striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area,<br />
effective aggressiveness and defense.</p>
<p>(d) Evaluations shall be made in the order in which the techniques<br />
appear in (c) above, giving the most weight in scoring to effective<br />
striking, effective grappling, control of the fighting area and<br />
effective aggressiveness and defense.</p>
<p>(e) Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of<br />
legal heavy strikes landed by a contestant.</p>
<p>(f) Effective grappling is judged by considering the amount of<br />
successful executions of a legal takedown and reversals. Examples of<br />
factors to consider are take downs from standing position to mount<br />
position, passing the guard to mount position, and bottom position<br />
fighters using an active, threatening guard.</p>
<p>(g) Fighting area control is judged by determining who is dictating the<br />
pace, location and position of the bout. Examples of factors to consider<br />
are countering a grappler&#8217;s attempt at takedown by remaining standing<br />
and legally striking ; taking down an opponent to force a ground fight;<br />
creating threatening submission attempts, passing the guard to achieve<br />
mount, and creating striking opportunities.</p>
<p>(h) Effective aggressiveness means moving forward and landing a legal<br />
strike.</p>
<p>(i) Effective defense means avoiding being struck, taken down or<br />
reversed while countering with offensive attacks.</p>
<p>(j) The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the<br />
judges when scoring a round;</p>
<p>1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants<br />
appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear<br />
dominance in a round;</p>
<p>2. A round is to be scored as a 10-9 Round when a contestant wins by a<br />
close margin, landing the greater number of effective legal strikes,<br />
grappling and other maneuvers;</p>
<p>3. A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant<br />
overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.</p>
<p>4. A round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally<br />
dominates by striking or grappling in a round.</p>
<p>(k) Judges shall use a sliding scale and recognize the length of time<br />
the fighters are either standing or on the ground, as follows:</p>
<p>1. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round on the<br />
canvas, then:<br />
i. Effective grappling is weighed first; and<br />
ii. Effective striking is then weighed</p>
<p>2. If the mixed martial artists spent a majority of a round standing,<br />
then:<br />
1. Effective striking is weighed first; and<br />
2. Effective grappling is then weighed</p>
<p>3. If a round ends with a relatively even amount of standing and canvas<br />
fighting, striking and grapplin</p>
<p>What a bunch of mumbo jumbo! How are u supposed to judge a fight like this. I understand wanting to make this a sport but at some point there has to be a criteria for the fight as a whole&#8230;After all at the end of the day this is still a fight! What happens in round 1 should not count as much as what happens in round 3, after the fighters incur all that damage, and they start gassing. Ift hey would judge the fight as a whole more weight could be given to what happens in the later rounds, but with this 10 point must scoring system you just cant do that. I dont claim to have all the answers but what I do know is that this system is really flawed and changes need to take place.</p>
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		<title>By: The Anomaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Anomaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah Hector the dude is right, it is all grappling, and Burkmen was not effective in any grappling he was doing to Swick. Not saying it makes Swick the overall best fighter, but as far as take downs go, if the whole fight was him FAILING to take Swick down, how do you score that?

Burkmen - &quot;I&#039;m so much better, I lost!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah Hector the dude is right, it is all grappling, and Burkmen was not effective in any grappling he was doing to Swick. Not saying it makes Swick the overall best fighter, but as far as take downs go, if the whole fight was him FAILING to take Swick down, how do you score that?</p>
<p>Burkmen &#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;m so much better, I lost!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Anomaly</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2008/01/30/josh-burkman-to-mike-swick-sometimes-you-forget-things-when-youre-scared/comment-page-2/#comment-286943</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anomaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;286411&quot;][quote comment=&quot;286399&quot;]Take down defense is effective grappling.  Effective grappling gets scored before aggression and octagon control.  Think of it this way, because it is pretty much how it went down in this fight:  Say we saw a round where no punches or submissions are thrown.  Fighter A attempts six take downs on fighter B.  Fighter B stuffs everyone of those take downs.  Who has proved to the superior fighter and tactician?  Fighter B has.  Mike Swick was fighter B.[/quote]

You are crazy. Just because you made up some rules to scoring MMA, doesn&#039;t make them a reality.[/quote]
No this does sound like reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="286411"][quote comment="286399"]Take down defense is effective grappling.  Effective grappling gets scored before aggression and octagon control.  Think of it this way, because it is pretty much how it went down in this fight:  Say we saw a round where no punches or submissions are thrown.  Fighter A attempts six take downs on fighter B.  Fighter B stuffs everyone of those take downs.  Who has proved to the superior fighter and tactician?  Fighter B has.  Mike Swick was fighter B.[/quote]</p>
<p>You are crazy. Just because you made up some rules to scoring MMA, doesn&#8217;t make them a reality.[/quote]<br />
No this does sound like reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;286576&quot;][quote comment=&quot;286492&quot;]As for the judging the fight:

- Burkman definitely won round one
- Round two was super close but I gave it to Swick mainly because he had a couple nice srikes.
- So that brings us to round 3, winner of the round takes the fight.  NEITHER fighter displayed that they really wanted to win the fight in the 3rd round.  Neither fighter had an andvantage in the 3rd.  So I scored it 10-10

That would be a draw.  One judge saw it my way.  I don&#039;t know how the other two saw Swick win two rounds.  That fight SHOULD have been a DRAW.  All 3 judges should have scored it like I did above, or at the very least with the one judge having it 29-29, one judge for Burkman 29-28 and one for Swick 29-28 would have been a draw as well.

I also believe that the judges did not get this fight right.  Swick does not deserve a win on his record for that  performance.  All he did was stop takedowns.......[/quote]
Yea, youre right.  I absolutely hate the fact that Burkman got a loss for this.  I agree, it should have been a draw.  I think in the event of a draw, they should have a 4th round.[/quote]


This was fight was aweful...who really cares though?  Neither of these guys is going anywhere in the welterweight division, and this fight proved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="286576"][quote comment="286492"]As for the judging the fight:</p>
<p>- Burkman definitely won round one<br />
- Round two was super close but I gave it to Swick mainly because he had a couple nice srikes.<br />
- So that brings us to round 3, winner of the round takes the fight.  NEITHER fighter displayed that they really wanted to win the fight in the 3rd round.  Neither fighter had an andvantage in the 3rd.  So I scored it 10-10</p>
<p>That would be a draw.  One judge saw it my way.  I don&#8217;t know how the other two saw Swick win two rounds.  That fight SHOULD have been a DRAW.  All 3 judges should have scored it like I did above, or at the very least with the one judge having it 29-29, one judge for Burkman 29-28 and one for Swick 29-28 would have been a draw as well.</p>
<p>I also believe that the judges did not get this fight right.  Swick does not deserve a win on his record for that  performance.  All he did was stop takedowns&#8230;&#8230;.[/quote]<br />
Yea, youre right.  I absolutely hate the fact that Burkman got a loss for this.  I agree, it should have been a draw.  I think in the event of a draw, they should have a 4th round.[/quote]</p>
<p>This was fight was aweful&#8230;who really cares though?  Neither of these guys is going anywhere in the welterweight division, and this fight proved it.</p>
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