Comments on: Randy Couture: ‘I like Sylvia in a stoppage of some kind’ http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:47:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: The Anomaly http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-289022 The Anomaly Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:31:53 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-289022 [quote comment="288910"][quote post="4714"]As my comrade " John " has slated in an article of his..check out how UFC handles Pride fighters. Look at the fighter's that got a warm up type match and the ones that got a tuf first fight in the UFC. Warm up's Anderson Silva Rampage Jackson Cro Cop ( who is the only one unsuccessful ) 1-2 Big Nog No Warm up's Shogun Wandy Sokoudjou Look up some of Big Nog's Highlights. He is a beast. in 30 fights he has "18!!!" submissions. After UFC 81..make it 19.[/quote] Silva got a warmup fight and has done well. Calling Jacksons first fight (to someone WHO BEAT HIM last time they met) a warmup is like calling Chucks 2nd fight against Page a warmup fight for Chuck. Nog hasn't done anything yet after his warmup. So, Silva is doing good after winning his warmup fight. Untill some of these other Pride fighter start winning,I think it's a little early to accept this theory based on Silva as the lone example.[/quote] Excellent logic Gord, looks like some are still trying to drag on the Pride/UFC debates. I was convinced there was an equal distribution of talent between the two, but after the influx of Pride fighters, I will have to say I might slightly favor UFC now. On top of everything, Pride was also way less regulated, as far as steroids and that. [quote comment=”288910″][quote post=”4714″]As my comrade ” John ” has slated in an article of his..check out how UFC handles Pride fighters. Look at the fighter’s that got a warm up type match and the ones that got a tuf first fight in the UFC.
Warm up’s
Anderson Silva
Rampage Jackson
Cro Cop ( who is the only one unsuccessful ) 1-2
Big Nog
No Warm up’s
Shogun
Wandy
Sokoudjou
Look up some of Big Nog’s Highlights. He is a beast.
in 30 fights he has “18!!!” submissions. After UFC 81..make it 19.[/quote]
Silva got a warmup fight and has done well. Calling Jacksons first fight (to someone WHO BEAT HIM last time they met) a warmup is like calling Chucks 2nd fight against Page a warmup fight for Chuck. Nog hasn’t done anything yet after his warmup. So, Silva is doing good after winning his warmup fight. Untill some of these other Pride fighter start winning,I think it’s a little early to accept this theory based on Silva as the lone example.[/quote]
Excellent logic Gord, looks like some are still trying to drag on the Pride/UFC debates. I was convinced there was an equal distribution of talent between the two, but after the influx of Pride fighters, I will have to say I might slightly favor UFC now. On top of everything, Pride was also way less regulated, as far as steroids and that.

]]> By: The Anomaly http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-289019 The Anomaly Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:28:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-289019 [quote comment="288994"][quote comment="284140"]Let me break it down. Noguerra's stand up is indeed better then Randy's. I think Tim will be more afraid to go to the ground with Noguerra then he was against Randy (and he was terrified against Randy). With that said, all Nog has to do is keep Tim off balance, mix it up between strikes and takedown defense, and I feel that he can out box him, or ju jitsu trip him to the ground (once he gets tim pressed against the cage). Randy provided the blueprint for Nog to beat Sylvia...If Nogguerra can just stick to the script he will win this fight. By the way, Randy was able to get Tim's back, but couldnt do anything with it. If Nog gets Tim's back....it will be nighty night for the webfooted bandit![/quote] That's what Monson thought too. Maybe Monson isn't as good as Nog, but he had NOTHING on Tim on the ground. Nog will also have trouble dealing with that big ape's size. Randy's striking was more effective than AA's against Tim. I can't see Nog teeing off on Tim's head as much as Randy did. Randy's supperior wrestling makes his striking more effective than Nogs, at least agaist Tim. I guess we will find out on saturday.[/quote] I agree gord. Randy's stand up is better. NOg just takes a punch good, that's it. And Tim's size will be an issue on the ground as well, like you said. [quote comment=”288994″][quote comment=”284140″]Let me break it down. Noguerra’s stand up is indeed better then Randy’s. I think Tim will be more afraid to go to the ground with Noguerra then he was against Randy (and he was terrified against Randy). With that said, all Nog has to do is keep Tim off balance, mix it up between strikes and takedown defense, and I feel that he can out box him, or ju jitsu trip him to the ground (once he gets tim pressed against the cage). Randy provided the blueprint for Nog to beat Sylvia…If Nogguerra can just stick to the script he will win this fight.

By the way, Randy was able to get Tim’s back, but couldnt do anything with it. If Nog gets Tim’s back….it will be nighty night for the webfooted bandit![/quote]
That’s what Monson thought too. Maybe Monson isn’t as good as Nog, but he had NOTHING on Tim on the ground. Nog will also have trouble dealing with that big ape’s size. Randy’s striking was more effective than AA’s against Tim. I can’t see Nog teeing off on Tim’s head as much as Randy did. Randy’s supperior wrestling makes his striking more effective than Nogs, at least agaist Tim. I guess we will find out on saturday.[/quote]
I agree gord. Randy’s stand up is better. NOg just takes a punch good, that’s it. And Tim’s size will be an issue on the ground as well, like you said.

]]> By: Gord http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288994 Gord Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:08:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288994 [quote comment="284140"]Let me break it down. Noguerra's stand up is indeed better then Randy's. I think Tim will be more afraid to go to the ground with Noguerra then he was against Randy (and he was terrified against Randy). With that said, all Nog has to do is keep Tim off balance, mix it up between strikes and takedown defense, and I feel that he can out box him, or ju jitsu trip him to the ground (once he gets tim pressed against the cage). Randy provided the blueprint for Nog to beat Sylvia...If Nogguerra can just stick to the script he will win this fight. By the way, Randy was able to get Tim's back, but couldnt do anything with it. If Nog gets Tim's back....it will be nighty night for the webfooted bandit![/quote] That's what Monson thought too. Maybe Monson isn't as good as Nog, but he had NOTHING on Tim on the ground. Nog will also have trouble dealing with that big ape's size. Randy's striking was more effective than AA's against Tim. I can't see Nog teeing off on Tim's head as much as Randy did. Randy's supperior wrestling makes his striking more effective than Nogs, at least agaist Tim. I guess we will find out on saturday. [quote comment=”284140″]Let me break it down. Noguerra’s stand up is indeed better then Randy’s. I think Tim will be more afraid to go to the ground with Noguerra then he was against Randy (and he was terrified against Randy). With that said, all Nog has to do is keep Tim off balance, mix it up between strikes and takedown defense, and I feel that he can out box him, or ju jitsu trip him to the ground (once he gets tim pressed against the cage). Randy provided the blueprint for Nog to beat Sylvia…If Nogguerra can just stick to the script he will win this fight.

By the way, Randy was able to get Tim’s back, but couldnt do anything with it. If Nog gets Tim’s back….it will be nighty night for the webfooted bandit![/quote]
That’s what Monson thought too. Maybe Monson isn’t as good as Nog, but he had NOTHING on Tim on the ground. Nog will also have trouble dealing with that big ape’s size. Randy’s striking was more effective than AA’s against Tim. I can’t see Nog teeing off on Tim’s head as much as Randy did. Randy’s supperior wrestling makes his striking more effective than Nogs, at least agaist Tim. I guess we will find out on saturday.

]]> By: Gord http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288910 Gord Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:04:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288910 [quote post="4714"]As my comrade " John " has slated in an article of his..check out how UFC handles Pride fighters. Look at the fighter's that got a warm up type match and the ones that got a tuf first fight in the UFC. Warm up's Anderson Silva Rampage Jackson Cro Cop ( who is the only one unsuccessful ) 1-2 Big Nog No Warm up's Shogun Wandy Sokoudjou Look up some of Big Nog's Highlights. He is a beast. in 30 fights he has "18!!!" submissions. After UFC 81..make it 19.[/quote] Silva got a warmup fight and has done well. Calling Jacksons first fight (to someone WHO BEAT HIM last time they met) a warmup is like calling Chucks 2nd fight against Page a warmup fight for Chuck. Nog hasn't done anything yet after his warmup. So, Silva is doing good after winning his warmup fight. Untill some of these other Pride fighter start winning,I think it's a little early to accept this theory based on Silva as the lone example. [quote post=”4714″]As my comrade ” John ” has slated in an article of his..check out how UFC handles Pride fighters. Look at the fighter’s that got a warm up type match and the ones that got a tuf first fight in the UFC.
Warm up’s
Anderson Silva
Rampage Jackson
Cro Cop ( who is the only one unsuccessful ) 1-2
Big Nog
No Warm up’s
Shogun
Wandy
Sokoudjou
Look up some of Big Nog’s Highlights. He is a beast.
in 30 fights he has “18!!!” submissions. After UFC 81..make it 19.[/quote]
Silva got a warmup fight and has done well. Calling Jacksons first fight (to someone WHO BEAT HIM last time they met) a warmup is like calling Chucks 2nd fight against Page a warmup fight for Chuck. Nog hasn’t done anything yet after his warmup. So, Silva is doing good after winning his warmup fight. Untill some of these other Pride fighter start winning,I think it’s a little early to accept this theory based on Silva as the lone example.

]]> By: joe http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288887 joe Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:21:27 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288887 randy is going for tim cause he bit him is just out to make money cause he wants to fight fedor and make money sorry randy but you are wrong like you were wrong with gonzaga and werdum you dont deserve the honor to fight fedor only comming out of retirement and having 2 and thinking you deserve to call your self top contender people wake up!!!! randy is going for tim cause he bit him is just out to make money cause he wants to fight fedor and make money sorry randy but you are wrong like you were wrong with gonzaga and werdum you dont deserve the honor to fight fedor only comming out of retirement and having 2 and thinking you deserve to call your self top contender people wake up!!!!

]]> By: belfort_fan http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288545 belfort_fan Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:36:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-288545 This saddens me, Randy is looking really old in this pic. Anyone agree This saddens me, Randy is looking really old in this pic.
Anyone agree

]]> By: PhilQNY http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-285485 PhilQNY Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:58:32 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-285485 [quote comment="284639"][quote post="4714"]That`s crazy.[/quote] Crazy as in you don't think it will happen, or crazy as in that would be a wicked fight?[/quote] Wicked fight. [quote comment=”284639″][quote post=”4714″]That`s crazy.[/quote]

Crazy as in you don’t think it will happen, or crazy as in that would be a wicked fight?[/quote]

Wicked fight.

]]> By: UFCAddict http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-285174 UFCAddict Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:49:07 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-285174 I was thinking about the HW division from the UFC's vantage point because I didn't understand the direction they were going in. Before Couture came out of retirement... Big Timmy was the champ after beating AA 2/3... pretty much taking AA out of the equation because we didn't want to see best 3/5. Adding CroCop and Nog and the emerging Vera and Kongo gave them more depth. When Couture came out of retirement to beat big Timmy, they were trying to set up a dream matchup between Couture and CroCop, but Gonzaga derailed that plan. Couture's resignation and not landing Fedor did not put the UFC in any worse position than they already were in before Couture came out of retirement. In fact, by their estimation, they are still ahead of where they were by still having Nog, CroCop, Vera, Kongo, and Werdum in their HW stable of fighters. Nobody can make a valid argument that they don't have the deepest HW division. However, the UFC can't say they have the #1 HW in the world until somebody holds the "interim" belt that hasn't been defeated by Randy or Fedor. Bring Bas Rutten out of retirement (half sarcasm). I was thinking about the HW division from the UFC’s vantage point because I didn’t understand the direction they were going in. Before Couture came out of retirement… Big Timmy was the champ after beating AA 2/3… pretty much taking AA out of the equation because we didn’t want to see best 3/5. Adding CroCop and Nog and the emerging Vera and Kongo gave them more depth. When Couture came out of retirement to beat big Timmy, they were trying to set up a dream matchup between Couture and CroCop, but Gonzaga derailed that plan. Couture’s resignation and not landing Fedor did not put the UFC in any worse position than they already were in before Couture came out of retirement. In fact, by their estimation, they are still ahead of where they were by still having Nog, CroCop, Vera, Kongo, and Werdum in their HW stable of fighters. Nobody can make a valid argument that they don’t have the deepest HW division. However, the UFC can’t say they have the #1 HW in the world until somebody holds the “interim” belt that hasn’t been defeated by Randy or Fedor. Bring Bas Rutten out of retirement (half sarcasm).

]]> By: aaa http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-284917 aaa Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:02:58 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-284917 sylvia isn't that slow. nog is actually kind of slow himself. sylvia by decision more likely imo. I can't stand sylvia and hope nog wins, but if sylvia avoids the ground, or works good top with a lay and pray he should win. nog doesn't have to be knocked out to lose, just hurt enough that sylvia has an easy time outpointing him. nog would have an easier time working for a submission if sylvia was actually trying to finish the fight himself and that isn't very likely. sylvia isn’t that slow. nog is actually kind of slow himself.

sylvia by decision more likely imo. I can’t stand sylvia and hope nog wins, but if sylvia avoids the ground, or works good top with a lay and pray he should win. nog doesn’t have to be knocked out to lose, just hurt enough that sylvia has an easy time outpointing him. nog would have an easier time working for a submission if sylvia was actually trying to finish the fight himself and that isn’t very likely.

]]> By: jonesman http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-284789 jonesman Tue, 29 Jan 2008 06:10:46 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2008/01/28/randy-couture-i-like-sylvia-in-a-stoppage-of-some-kind/#comment-284789 nog SHOULD win, a man a who can go three rounds with fedor twice surely should be able to beat sylvia nog SHOULD win, a man a who can go three rounds with fedor twice surely should be able to beat sylvia

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