i can’t wait to pay another 5 bucks for one less fight on the card

Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.

[quote comment=”281936″]Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.[/quote]
So they can spend more time telling us about the latest movies coming out. Like we give a shit when we pay to see MMA, not comercials.

How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?

I would much rather watch Tyson Griffin over Alan Belcher.

[quote comment=”281936″]Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.[/quote]
I was just about to ask, how come there is not 5 main card fights?

[quote comment=”281983″][quote comment=”281936″]Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.[/quote]
I was just about to ask, how come there is not 5 main card fights?[/quote]

There are always 9 bouts per card 5 of them are garanteed to be televised and 4 considered pre-lims and not garanteed to be telivised. Depending on the duration of the televised bouts is what determines how many if any of the pre-lims get aired.

The Tyson Griffin fight will definitely be on the main card and more than likely the first card on the bout.

I still cant believe they are raising the price of the PPv’s I hope the # of buys are low so they drop it back down to 39. 45 bucks is just not reasonable

How the hell is A Tyson Griffin Match not a definite broadcast. 3 of his 4 fights have been fight of the night.I think we all could do without the Alan Belcher fight. That fight alone would end up being the saving grace of this card. I think the only other person I am real excited to see on this card is the Jeremy Horn/Marquardt fight. Not like it means anything considering Silva already has run through the both of them, but it will be a super technical match.

Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.

WAR FRANK!

WAR TYSON!

No problem paying a few extra bucks at all, but they better show tyson cause hes just plain out sick!

[quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]
Yeah but that’s at LHW, Horn might do better down at MW.

[quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

Ridiculous comment, Horn poses a risk to every fighter he steps in to the octagon/ring with. The guy’s insanely experienced…I’d never count him out

Mir better beat Lesnar, or he’ll need to hang his head in shame.

[quote comment=”281960″]How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?[/quote]

i agree just because belcher elbowed starnes and u could c his skull. a 1 hit wonder. unless the guy he is facing on this card also sucks.

[quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

i agree again!

[quote comment=”282374″]Mir better beat Lesnar, or he’ll need to hang his head in shame.[/quote]

i think lesnar better live up 2 the hype he has been talking. other wise ufc made a big mistake. the guy has 1 fight he won but who against?

Hey UFC…

SHOW ALL THE F*CKING FIGHTS!!!!!

I don’t get it. I will never understand why ALL the fights on the card aren’t televised. Are they saving the un-televised fights for SpikeTV UFC Unleashed or for cheap Christmas DVD box sets? This is ridiculous.

It would be robery if the Tibau/Griffin fight isn’t televised. How the heck are you going to make these undercard matches, and not give those fighters television exposure by putting them on the PPV? Most of the undercard fighters are journey men or up and comers that would benefit greatly from that kind of exposure. Plus, the fans can get to learn more about these guys, become familiar with them, and can be fans of those fighters in other UFC events.

We’re already paying for the programming. I’m sure the fans who’ve paid for the PPV wouldn’t mind if it went 5 hours to get those extra fights.

If the UFC isn’t listening, I hope Mark Cuban is!

[quote comment=”282047″]How the hell is A Tyson Griffin Match not a definite broadcast. 3 of his 4 fights have been fight of the night.I think we all could do without the Alan Belcher fight. That fight alone would end up being the saving grace of this card. I think the only other person I am real excited to see on this card is the Jeremy Horn/Marquardt fight. Not like it means anything considering Silva already has run through the both of them, but it will be a super technical match.[/quote]
that’s EXACTLY what i was thinking:

WHY THE HELL ISN’T TYSON on the Main Card?!?!?!?!?!?

DAMN. now i hope the first 4 fights finish in the 1st minute!

this stinks!!

[quote comment=”282544″][quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

i agree again![/quote]

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 - 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.

[quote comment=”282703″][quote comment=”282544″][quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

i agree again![/quote]

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 - 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing, People not excited by Horn. He is the most respected fighter by the fighters. Horn is amazing he never had formal training just learned by doing and fighting. This fight will be a clinic.

[quote comment=”281960″]How is Tyson Griffin not televised? Every fight that dude is in is bad ass?[/quote]
I’d quite like to see Martin Vs Eastman too!

With the addition of pride fighters comming to ufc,and prices going up, number of fights going down on ppv. I think dana white and the owners of ufc are on some bullsh*t. Come on you guys are trying to make more money. That’s fine we’ll give the money but give us 10 really good fights every card. AND…….. CREATE THE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION so that way there are six titles and two titles defended every ppv and the titles shots are rotated every three ppv’s It’s not like you dont have enough fighters to do this. Oh brock is going to punish mir. Mir lost a tune up fight when he returned, in fact his face was super bloody and dizzy looking. Brock made his first opponent tap while being in the full mount. In like 30 seconds. This might be the fastest heavyweight fight in ufc history

[quote post=”4707″]Horn is amazing he never had formal training just learned by doing and fighting. [/quote]

Didn’t Horn learn how to fight from Pat Miletich?

no one wants to see belcher…all of griffin’s fights are great, and also who wouldnt wanna see a slugfest b/t eastman and terry martin… i mean martin was considered a legit contender, and what, since leben got lucky and caught him means hes not even on the main card his next fight? bogus…

this is why griffin and martin are on the undercard: ufc wants to extra money by keeping some appealing fights off the main card so ppl will buy the ufc on demand on ufc.com…thats aggravating

Dang Terry and Marvin. That should be a good one. I hope they televise that.

[quote comment=”283042″][quote post=”4707″]Horn is amazing he never had formal training just learned by doing and fighting. [/quote]

Didn’t Horn learn how to fight from Pat Miletich?[/quote]
Yeah I don’t think this statement about self training Horn, is very true at all.

The UFC buys 3 hour blocks for their Pay Per Views. This is a very common “event” amount of time. Boxing matches, movies, and concerts buy this amount of time to air their material. Pride’s North American PPVs are also in this format. The UFC schedules fight according to their time limit. They do so depending on how many non-title fights(3 rounds, 5 minutes each) and title fights(5 rounds, 5 minutes each). So 4 scheduled PPVs is usually the average amount of “scheduled fights” on a card. This means, if the four fights go to a judge’s decision, there is still enough time for all fights to be aired. One of the biggest disasters a fight promoter can have is the PPV coverage cutting out in the middle of a main event.

Many UFC PPVs have more then 4 fights. What often happens is a fight gets over before a judges decision so there is more time available. The UFC prepares for this in 2 ways:

The Swing Fight: The UFC will have a fight tentatively scheduled. If the other fights end quickly, that fight is then aired on the PPV and takes place live. The UFC usually places their swing fight between the co-main and the main event. Many other combat sports have “Swing Fights.” You can see many examples of “swing fights” on the show “Friday Night Fights,” HBO’s “Boxing After Dark” or most boxing PPVs. If their is no time for the swing fight on the PPV, the fight will take place after the main event and will not air on the PPV broadcast. A “swing fight” has never been held after a main event in the UFC.

Airing of prelim fights: A very convenient way for the UFC to fill PPV time is show tapes of prelim matches that occurred on the card before the matches that aired on PPV. This happens when fights on the main card end quickly. This allows the UFC to show fights that a) are the most exciting from the prelims b.) fit in the allowed time. A prelim match might end in the first round and could fill time at the end of a PPV where a full match could not.

Having 4 scheduled fights is not a way to rip you off. This is common practice in combat sports and a common move from the Zuffa era of the UFC. Most of the cards have some sort of “filler” match since rarely do all fights go to a Judge’s Decision. Critics of 4 scheduled fights are often fighting for the wrong cause since the card UFC 58 had only 5 matches but had more actual fighting shown then UFC 53 that showed 8 fights, and Pride’s “Total Elimination Absolute” which showed 8 fights. UFC 58 with its 5 matches had 65minutes and 1 second of fighting. UFC with its 8 fights had 54 minutes and 24 seconds of fighting. Pride’s ‘Total Elimination Absolute” had 57 minutes and 55 seconds of fighting.

For UFC 46(Couture vs Vitor II) the UFC did NOT show any filler fights. This made many people mad since the fights on the show went very fast and there was about 40 minutes left of PPV time when they went of the air. On top of this, the main event was a huge let down with Randy getting his eye cut in a ab-normal incident very early in round one. Many people did e-mail campaigns showing their disgust, and shortly after, the UFC started showing as many fight on PPV as they could once again.

The reason why Pride often shows more fights then the UFC is because Pride is not live when it is shown on the North American broadcast. It is on what is called a “tape delay.” This delay happens because of the time zone difference between Japan and North America. If Pride was to broadcast live in North America, the event would air at 3 a.m. Instead, they delay it till prime time 18 hours later. This gives Pride time to edit the show. Where UFC has to show all entrances, all the time in between fights, and everything else that happens, Pride can edit out many entrances, and dead-time so they can fill that time on the North American PPV with more matches. Pride’s Bushido show often has 10 matches or more and they can show most of them in the time aloud because of editing.

OOPS!! Forgot to give credit for the info I just posted…It’s from…

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17836

WAR LESNAR

[quote comment=”283006″]With the addition of pride fighters comming to ufc,and prices going up, number of fights going down on ppv. I think dana white and the owners of ufc are on some bullsh*t. Come on you guys are trying to make more money. That’s fine we’ll give the money but give us 10 really good fights every card. AND…….. CREATE THE SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION so that way there are six titles and two titles defended every ppv and the titles shots are rotated every three ppv’s It’s not like you dont have enough fighters to do this. Oh brock is going to punish mir. Mir lost a tune up fight when he returned, in fact his face was super bloody and dizzy looking. Brock made his first opponent tap while being in the full mount. In like 30 seconds. This might be the fastest heavyweight fight in ufc history[/quote]
Nope, AA KOed Buentello in 15 seconds.

Everyone who complained about Tyson not being on the main card beat me to it. As for the Mir-Lesnar fight, I just have no idea what’s going to happen. Usually I at least have some idea. I’m wrong a lot, but I know what I think is going to happen and why. I don’t think this on goes two full rounds, probably not even one. As far as who wins, I have no clue.

What the hell are they thinking 1) four fight and tyson is not one of them comeon now what BS. 2)$45.00 shit no…now i’ve been follow this stuff from back in the days HELL NO I WILL NOT pay $45 FOR ONE LESS FIGHT let alone 5 fight… you watch prices well go up and viewers like my self will stop watching…..

jeremy horn beat chuck lidell and forrest griffin back in the day!

How does Tyson Griffin not make the main card, what a joke

Anyone know of any Sports Bars in Los Angeles showing this fight?

The UFC PPV offering is on probation in my book. I’m going to buy 81 and it may be the last for a while. 82 better blow my socks off. I figure the UFC owes me a complete event’s worth of matches now. I think their strategy has been to thin down the offering but pack the events closer together to pull more dollars out of our wallets.

[quote comment=”281927″]i can’t wait to pay another 5 bucks for one less fight on the card[/quote]

Anyone know where I can see a video of the weigh ins? I missed them.

Thanks.

why don’t they jack the price $10 bones and give us all 9 fights! what the hell do they care if we see all of them or not … are they saving the ones we don’t get to see for something they can charge us for later - answer “no”. it’s certainly not going to stop people from seeing the event in person (so they can see all the fights). those people are gonna go to the event anyway.

Well. having been a Fan since they started televising On Spike TV they just over priced themselves for me.
I can’t afford it now.So Long

I like how Horn took the fight with such short notice, you know he’s a fighter for the glory, not the money.

The only money maker i see for them by not airing all 9 fights is that video on demand video.ufc.com subscription service were you can see all the prelims for a month subscription of like 9.99 per month also includes a lot of old fights and so forth.

Heres how its ganna go tonight,

Tyson Griffing 1st roung tko stoppage
Marquardt 3rd round doctor stoppage because Horn is a tuff SOB
Frank Mir by Arm Bar from his back 2cnd round
Nogiera by ankle lock or knee bar 4th round

[quote comment=”282703″][quote comment=”282544″][quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

i agree again![/quote]

do you know anything about Marquardt or jeremy horn?
In the past 5 years Horn has only lost to chuck lidell, mat lindland and he took anderson silva to a decision. yea the guy clearly cant hang anymore. lol and his record is what 79 - 16 yea that speaks for itself.

This is going to be a great fight with two of the best grapplers in mma.

You two need to learn to apreciate ground fighting.[/quote]

I know all about Horn’s past. I know how respected he was/is. The problem is that he’s fought to much. He’s beat up. I went to UFC 56 in 2005 and Horn looked old and tired back then. He lost the fight but got the decision. And he was fighting some stiff! Everybody in the MGM was booking like crazy,and rightly so. I say Marquardt wins this fight fairly easily.

I’m predicting Griffin by TKO, Almeida by Submission, Marquardt by decision, Lesnar by decision, and Tim Sylvia by decision. This is a hard night to call the fights but I think Marquardt and Sylvia will win their fights by decision if they are not finished, so they seem decent to bet on. Lesnar will also likely be the victor if he is not finished, but very little is known about how he’ll perform against top guys so I wouldn’t bet too big on him.

My thoughts on the Mir/Lesnar fight….My heart really goes out to Mir and want to see him with the belt again, but at the same time I want to see Brock Lesnar rip through the competition and fight for the belt eventually. It’s a shame this fight couldnt happen later down the road since Mir is still trying to re-establish himself since his accident, and Brock is trying to establish himself period. I see this as a very important fight for both fighters, and I hope they both slug it out back and forth, and no one gets truly dominated cause I love both of these guys. I’d like to see it go all 3 rounds.

THIS IS A TERRIBLE CARD for MORE $$$$??!?!!?
WE SHOUYLD AYtLEAST getto see all the fights for u[[ing the price on a come on don you all aggrrea a weak card and the proceeds go to brock lessnar?!?!?!?

SO YOU all SEE that RANDY COUTURE HAD A FREAKINGGGG POINT!?!?!?!?!!?

THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
his is messed up how disproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?!

The last pay per view showed about 7-8 fights if I remember correctly so hopefully they will at least show 5 tonight.

War Mir!!!!!!!!

If you order the PPV online, do you see “ALL” the matches? Does anyone know what I am talking about?

Thanks in advance for the help.

THE NATURAL PICKS: UFC 81

A regular segment on The Fight Network’s original TV series’ “Before The Bell” and “After The Bell,” Randy Couture has his “Natural Picks” for this Saturday’s UFC 81 “Breaking Point” - live from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas - locked in.

Here’s what the expert analyst is predicting:

INTERIM HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Tim Sylvia (26-3) vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (30-4-1) — Sylvia

“I think Tim will tire Nogueira out on his feet. I think Nogueira’s going to have trouble putting him on the ground and maneuvering Sylvia into his strength, which is his submission game. I can see it going a third-round KO, but I could also see it going the distance and Nogueira getting a beating.”

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HEAVYWEIGHT: Frank Mir (10-3) vs. Brock Lesnar (1-0) - Mir

“I’m going with Mir with a second-round submission. As big and strong as Lesnar is, and as hard as he’s going to come, I think he’s going to put Mir right where he wants to be and Lesnar’s going to get out of position and get caught.”

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MIDDLEWEIGHT: Jeremy Horn (88-16-5) vs. Nate Marquardt (28-7-1) - Marquardt

“I’m going to go with Marquardt. Jeremy hasn’t really been the same since the Liddell fight. I think he realized he’s not infallible and can be hurt. Taking the fight on short notice probably isn’t the wisest thing. Marquardt is strong for that weight class and hits hard. I think Horn’s going to have trouble taking Marquardt down to find a wily way to submit him.”

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MIDDLEWEIGHT: Rob Yundt (7-0) vs. Ricardo Almeida (8-2) - Almeida

“Almeida.”

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LIGHTWEIGHT: Gleison Tibau (27-3) vs. Tyson Griffin (10-1) - Griffin

“I’m going with Tyson Griffin. Both guys have great fighting spirit, but Tyson’s very difficult to submit and will bring a torturable pace to the fight that Tibau’s going to have trouble keeping. I think it will be a decision and probably be the fight of the night.”

POSTED — 02/01/08

If the announcers would talk less and there was less build-up between fights interviewing the combatants, there would be plenty of time in 3 hours to have at least 6 fights–more if several fights did not go the distance. I record the fights on my DVR and fast-forward through most of that talk, anyway.

[quote comment=”291809″]If the announcers would talk less and there was less build-up between fights interviewing the combatants, there would be plenty of time in 3 hours to have at least 6 fights–more if several fights did not go the distance. I record the fights on my DVR and fast-forward through most of that talk, anyway.[/quote]

But then you would have fights that new people didnt even know of/ didnt even care of. The more new fans, the better.

[quote comment=”282544″][quote comment=”282075″]Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn is being televised? Horn’s been over-the-hill for the past five years. This fight is a joke and shouldn’t make the main card.[/quote]

i agree again![/quote]
yea i agree horn sucks!!!!!!!!

[quote comment=”281952″][quote comment=”281936″]Why only 4 fights on the main card? Lame.[/quote]
So they can spend more time telling us about the latest movies coming out. Like we give a shit when we pay to see MMA, not comercials.[/quote]
yea i want it go fight then fight not fight then talk i watched the damn countdown now im paying almost 50 bucks show all the fights

[quote comment=”291767″]THIS IS A TERRIBLE CARD for MORE $$$$??!?!!?
WE SHOUYLD AYtLEAST getto see all the fights for u[[ing the price on a come on don you all aggrrea a weak card and the proceeds go to brock lessnar?!?!?!?

SO YOU all SEE that RANDY COUTURE HAD A FREAKINGGGG POINT!?!?!?!?!!?

THIS tittle is really misleading as it should say brock will get about the same as CHuck or Brock is overpaid or the ufc doesnt care about loyalty
his is messed up how disproportianate pay is?!?!??!!?!?![/quote]

As much as you seem to love the smell of Couture, Brock Lesnar is a bigger name to the average person, (who the UFC wants to buy PPV’s,) and will make them all a bunch of money. Nobody who isn’t already into MMA is going to say, “Wow, Randy Couture sure was great in that episode of “The Unit”, I sure want to watch him fight.” But because people know who Brock is, they may be willing to see if a “fake pro wrestler” can really fight. Everything is not about Randy Couture. If he was smarter, maybe he wouldn’t have signed a contract under the terms he did. Taking the belt home because you feel slighted money-wise is cheap. If i agree to a job for x# of dollars, I look like a prima-donna if i go home crying because the guy next to me is making more. I am sick of people making excuses for Randy Couture. He is a fraud. I hope him and Fedor have that “dream fight” so i can laugh at how little it really matters in the grand scheme of things. More people are buying this PPV to see Brock Lesnar than any other reason. Take the same fight card and substitute Brock for (insert heavyweight here) and this card wouldn’t be nearly as intiguing as it is. People need to quit whining.

FIGHT UPDATE: Rob Emerson defeats Keita Nakamura via split decision

youpie!

I’m too cheap to buy the pay-per-view, but I can’t wait to at least hear who wins the Lesnar - Mir fight. I think Brock Lesnar is the real deal. I think he has a future in UFC.Having said that, he still lacks experience, Mir is a tough first fight, and I think Mir takes this one.

[quote comment=”291841″][quote comment=”291809″]If the announcers would talk less and there was less build-up between fights interviewing the combatants, there would be plenty of time in 3 hours to have at least 6 fights–more if several fights did not go the distance. I record the fights on my DVR and fast-forward through most of that talk, anyway.[/quote]

But then you would have fights that new people didnt even know of/ didnt even care of. The more new fans, the better.[/quote]

Would someone please explain what this means?

I think the point being made is that not talking about the fights between time would make them able to squeeze in more fights.

Then the comment that new fans wouldn’t understand about what was going on about the fights if they didn’t talk between the fights.

Y has there been only 1 fight so far? Its 9:07 pm and the only fight that has taken place is the emerson fight? whats up with that?

how’s everyone doing on this lovely super weekend can’t wait to see my boy mir put brock in his place holla

FIGHT UPDATE: Marvin Eastman defeats Terry Martin via unanimous decision

Yo yo yo, what da deli? Haha, my man Eastman gettin his 1st UFC win, thats wasup! Now feed him 2 Silva.

Hey SmokeSuttin, remember “he broke Tim’s arm, BIG DEAL!” lol

Well, so far as my picks go for the first two fights all I have to say is BALLs ASS! Damn upsets. F-in terry martin piss-apointing me again. How was the eastman fight mania. Did he beast on him.

MANIA, whats going on? Why is it already 9:20pm and there are still 3 preliminary matches left? Wont this run past 10:00pm?

Here’s how I see this schizzle breaking down.
Noguiera will defeat Timmy, some sore of submission.
Lesnar (unfortunately) will ground and pound his way to victory.
Horn will return to form with a win. Also Almeida and Griffin will be victorious.

[quote comment=”291898″]MANIA, whats going on? Why is it already 9:20pm and there are still 3 preliminary matches left? Wont this run past 10:00pm?[/quote]
yeah, they always do

i wish i could of got this fight m dish went down.

FIGHT UPDATE: Tim Boetsch defeats David Heath via technical knockout (strikes) in round one

518 in the building still can’t order the fight!

I bet on every event and my style is to usually pick 2 or 3 of the main fights and throw a couple hundred dollars on each of them. Doing this I built up my betting account rather nicely so I am basically betting with the houses money at all the events.
I didnt like any of the fights on this event, so I decided to have some fun tonight and bet on everysingle fight but bet real small because I am not confident about any of these fights so I bet at leats $25 on every single fights but I bet $50 on the few I felt more confident about main. I will never use this method again, but I said what the hell, lets abandon my normal method and have some fun tonight. I cant bet how I normally et because There arent 3 fights that I feel comfortable enough betting hundreds of dollars on. With that said I just decided to have a lil fun tonight and try something different. My bets are:
Emerson $50
Eastman $25
Boetsh $25
Lytie $25
Griffin $25
Nate $50
Mir $25
Nogueira $25

FIGHT UPDATE: Chris Lytle d