I’d say Sylvia actually has a good chance in this one. Nogueira looked beatable during the Heath Herring fight. If Minotauro brings the same game I think we are going to see boring old Sylvia holding the title again. Unfortunately that will mean some more weak main event fights for the future.

I hate it when people talk in the third person. I want to see some arm breakage.

PS- Shane Carwin is going to take the belt soon anyway.

I’m not a fan, nor a hater of Sylvia, but dang, that guy has some ego. He’s not as good as he thinks he is.

Tim smash big nog… get belt back… bring to maine and kill moose or deer…let the hiliarity of it all ensue

Tim will destroy Big Nog. If he keps improving and does what he does best I do not see him getting beat in a long time. I would actually love to see him knock out Lesnar. I dont think Lesnar has felt a full punch in the head with a grappling glove before.

did he say he wants to fight Fedor? hes askin to get his ass kicked. Fedor would chew’em up and spit’em out. my advice for timmy is u better not look past big nog or else he’ll be ballroom dancin for a livin. or he could always go back on blind date and get ragged on by a alcoholic red head. but on another note i do see tim winnin this one… too bad

Tim gets so much crap on him for being a ‘boring’ fighter.

I’m not the biggest fan of Silvia, but bottom line, he wins his fights. And being the last of the original Miletich squad, he still is making noise. So I respect his game.

He beaten Arlovski, Vera, Monson among others. Couture couldn’t finish him in 5 rounds after connecting with a huge hook in the first round of their fight.

Nog has never been in a 5 round cage fight, and judging by the Brazilians that have come from Pride, the bigger guys like Shogun, Wandy, and even Nog have looked to gas in all their fights.

I like Nog, but, I’d give the edge to Tim Silvia. He’s a big guy that can sap Nog’s energy in the clinch. His reach is long enough to keep Nog frustrated and off balance. And Silvia knows what its like to fight 5 rounders.

I don’t think it will be pretty, but, I see Silva winning a unnanamous decision.

And I like Couture as much as the next guy, but honestly, Couture didn’t necessarily destroy Silvia. I could easily see a rematch go Silvia’s way.

As much as we’d hate to hear…”and reclaiming the Heavy Weight Championship of the World…Tim the Mainiac Silvia” …its a huge possibility.

It Timmy Sylvia vs. the world….We’ll show them, we’ll show everybody!!!!!!!!

I don’t know about this fight i really don’t think Big Nog deserves to be fighting actually for the title, its all bunch of BS if you ask me.

if tim wins i’d like to see him call out randy for a rematch. i think randy is acting like a baby. now randy’s talking about going to china to film some shitty movie…….maybe the real reason he resigned was to concentrate on being an “actor”. i like and respect randy as a fighter, but come on captain america get your ass back into the octagon

on a side note, to bad randy didn’t still do commentary with the ufc. he coulda got some advice on wednesday night from stallone on how to be a bad actor in cheesy movies. he seems to be doing allright without his help though.

most often the UFC are setting up the title shot for the fighter based on his previous MMA reputation,sometimes you’ll going to ask that “why he got a title shot & not the other guy?” example for dan henderson, he lost at a LHW title fight against rampage & then he drops down & get another title shot at MW just right after he lost his last fight,

if you’ll gonna think its unfair but if you base it regardning the fighter MMA reputation you’ll never question it. so if Big Nog is not deserving for the title shot yet, then who? kongo?vera?hearing?gonzaga?cropcop? etc.. the only one i think who deserve a title shot so far than Big Nog is Arlovski, but it seems there’s a confusion about him & the UFC

if nog can go three rounds with fedor and beat bob sapp i dont see why tim sylvia is gonna be a problem. sure he has game but the fedor is an awesome fighter and if nog can go three rounds with him, how is tim gonna stop him?

[quote comment=”280372″]most often the UFC are setting up the title shot for the fighter based on his previous MMA reputation,sometimes you’ll going to ask that “why he got a title shot & not the other guy?” example for dan henderson, he lost at a LHW title fight against rampage & then he drops down & get another title shot at MW just right after he lost his last fight,

if you’ll gonna think its unfair but if you base it regardning the fighter MMA reputation you’ll never question it. so if Big Nog is not deserving for the title shot yet, then who? kongo?vera?hearing?gonzaga?cropcop? etc.. the only one i think who deserve a title shot so far than Big Nog is Arlovski, but it seems there’s a confusion about him & the UFC[/quote]

First off henderson was the champ in both divsions in pride so the ufc had to take advantage of that and put those fights together.

Arlovski or kongo should fight for the title agin before big nog gets a chance but the ufc puts together dumb match ups like arlovski vs jake obrian lol… and kongo vs hearing wtf he just beat down crocop and he gets heath hearing… kongo will destroy hearing and will be heavyweight champ this year! Watch!

i bet the UFC would give Tim the Fedor fight - but cuz Randy stands his ground he gets screwed - n besides deep down i bet dana thinks randy would get mauled by fedor (which he would) that would make the UFC look real weak

[quote comment=”280301″]Tim gets so much crap on him for being a ‘boring’ fighter.

I’m not the biggest fan of Silvia, but bottom line, he wins his fights. And being the last of the original Miletich squad, he still is making noise. So I respect his game.

He beaten Arlovski, Vera, Monson among others. Couture couldn’t finish him in 5 rounds after connecting with a huge hook in the first round of their fight.

Nog has never been in a 5 round cage fight, and judging by the Brazilians that have come from Pride, the bigger guys like Shogun, Wandy, and even Nog have looked to gas in all their fights.

I like Nog, but, I’d give the edge to Tim Silvia. He’s a big guy that can sap Nog’s energy in the clinch. His reach is long enough to keep Nog frustrated and off balance. And Silvia knows what its like to fight 5 rounders.

I don’t think it will be pretty, but, I see Silva winning a unnanamous decision.

And I like Couture as much as the next guy, but honestly, Couture didn’t necessarily destroy Silvia. I could easily see a rematch go Silvia’s way.

As much as we’d hate to hear…”and reclaiming the Heavy Weight Championship of the World…Tim the Mainiac Silvia” …its a huge possibility.[/quote]
what match did you watch it was a 10 8 first round and 10-9 across the other 4 rounds in my eyes a complete shutout.either this was the best randy ever or it shows how weak the hw division is.tim will win ud but it will be a complete borefest.

I am betting my money on Nog.

[quote comment=”280372″],

if you’ll gonna think its unfair but if you base it regardning the fighter MMA reputation you’ll never question it. so if Big Nog is not deserving for the title shot yet, then who? kongo?vera?hearing?gonzaga?cropcop? etc.. the only one i think who deserve a title shot so far than Big Nog is Arlovski, but it seems there’s a confusion about him & the UFC[/quote]

I have to agree with you on this only in this weight class and the middleweight division. Both weight classes lack real competition and star power. With Gonzaga(as sad as I am about his poor performance and looking completely out of shape against Werdum, considering he won the first round) dropping his last fight, it reallly leaves you little. Tim has been the most consisten winner in the HW ranks for the last 2 or 3 years, so he should absolutely should get the nod to fight for the belt. He is boring but he is effective. I think Randy should have given him the opportunity for a rematch before leaving the UFC. The more you the turnout of events the more you really do have to wonder if Randy did jump on an oppotunity of fighting a hurt Tim Sylvia. I am not saying that Tim would have won the fight, but I am thinking it may have made a difference in Randy takng Tim down at will, when that never had been done before.

So as far as his oppoent goes there is no one out there so it mught as well go ahead and be someone baswed upon reputation. And no other hw has a better reputation than NOG. So until Lesnar can put together some wins and add flair to the hw it is what it is.

[quote comment=”280361″]I don’t know about this fight i really don’t think Big Nog deserves to be fighting actually for the title, its all bunch of BS if you ask me.[/quote]

Who else at this time deserves a title shot that is ready for one??

I hate Tim Sylvia so much, pretty much everything about him.

He has NEVER been in an exciting fight (not even Arlovski 2).

He is such a boring plodding fighter who just looks like the biggest sack of sh*t in the world. His hair, tats, sideburns, gut everything just annoys me. I know this is not a looks game but still, you look like an idiot.

Yeah he beat Vera… so what Vera is 40lbs lighter and broke his hand. When it comes to AA, he caught him with a lucky shot in the 2nd and then bored a punch shy win in the 3rd.

Please Nog, smash him up then hopefully Kongo will do the same and he won’t darken my tv set again.

From Matt Hughes book there was a quote about a row and if you read that one sentence sums up Sylvia…

‘The fat kid at school who just wants to be liked’

Not by me.

[quote comment=”280509″][quote comment=”280361″]I don’t know about this fight i really don’t think Big Nog deserves to be fighting actually for the title, its all bunch of BS if you ask me.[/quote]

Who else at this time deserves a title shot that is ready for one??[/quote]

Noguerra doesn’t deserve a title shot? But Tim does? U obviously have never seen PRIDE.

Nog will out box him, out clinch him, get the trip and out work Tim on the ground till he taps, which will make him the 3rd Pride fighter to hold the UFC title at this point in time.

I can’t believe Timmy still thinks he’s so good…

People bash Pride fighters but the reality is if Noguerra beats Tim, Pride fighters will hold the 3 Heavyiest UFC titles:

Heavyweight Champion: Antonio Rodrigo Noguerra
LightHeavyweight Champion: Quinton Rampage Jackson
Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva or Dan Henderson

If you want to really break down how Pride fighters have fought in the UFC, check this out. Most of the Pride fighters that got a UFC warm up fight have went on to put themselves in title contention. The one’s who didnt get a warm up fight and were thrown against top UFC fighters right away have not done good.

1.Rampage got a warm up fight against Marvin Eastman, he got the Octagon Jitters out and came back to Take the title.
2.Anderson Silva got a warm up fight against Leiben, and then went on to take the title.
3.Noguerra got a warm up fight against Hearing and he in now ready to take the title.

on the other hand Pride fighters who fought top competition with no warm up fights lost:
1.Shogun got thrown in there right away against Forrest and lost.
2.Sokoudjou lost to Machida in a fight in which the octagon jitters got the best of him
3.Wanderlei was thrown right in with Chuck and lost

All the fighters to have had a warm up fight have done well with the exception of cro cop.
Those who had to fight top contenders right away lost.

Could there be something to this trend? I dont want to see any more Pride fighters accept big UFC fights without giving them a warm up fight first.

Pride fighters are dominating the heavier divisions of the UFC. Why have the Pride fighters not dominated the lighter divisions? Thats simple, becaus ethe UFC hasn’t signed any welterweight or Lightweight fighters from Pride except Ryo Chonan who was thrown in there against Karo with no warm up fight.

When will the UFC bring in some Pride Lightweights and welterweights? I hear that Gomi is close to landing in the UFC. If he does, I hope they manage his career the right way. Give him a warm up fight 1st. I would suggest a simular situation as Noguerra. Give Gomi a warm up fight against Aurelio who he fought twice already. Like Noguerra got to warm up against Hearing whom he had fought twice already.

UFC should get:
Hellboy
Gomi
Mach
Gilbert
JZ
Shaolin Ribeiro

could u imagine the UFC Lightweight division if they were to add all those fighters? WOW!
It would then be time for the greatest Grand Prix Tournament of all time featuring ALL the TOP Lightweight fighters in the world. It would by far be the greatest tournament EVER

As sick and twisted as it is…. Im rooting for Sylvia in this fight. I want to see the Mir Sylvia rematch and watch Mir break his other arm.

Wow, he actually seems intelligent and respectful. Good for him.

It just sucks that the UFC is completely ignoring this fight, and instead promoting the hell out of Brock Lesnar’s debut.

[quote comment=”280435″][quote comment=”280372″]most often the UFC are setting up the title shot for the fighter based on his previous MMA reputation,sometimes you’ll going to ask that “why he got a title shot & not the other guy?” example for dan henderson, he lost at a LHW title fight against rampage & then he drops down & get another title shot at MW just right after he lost his last fight,

if you’ll gonna think its unfair but if you base it regardning the fighter MMA reputation you’ll never question it. so if Big Nog is not deserving for the title shot yet, then who? kongo?vera?hearing?gonzaga?cropcop? etc.. the only one i think who deserve a title shot so far than Big Nog is Arlovski, but it seems there’s a confusion about him & the UFC[/quote]

First off henderson was the champ in both divsions in pride so the ufc had to take advantage of that and put those fights together.

Arlovski or kongo should fight for the title agin before big nog gets a chance but the ufc puts together dumb match ups like arlovski vs jake obrian lol… and kongo vs hearing wtf he just beat down crocop and he gets heath hearing… kongo will destroy hearing and will be heavyweight champ this year! Watch![/quote]

well lets see,anyway i rather too congo be a champ rather than tim again

DJ Pull Out - I am thinking exactly the same.

I’d like to see him go back to being Steroid Timmy. Steroid Timmy brought it. Steroid Timmy was hungry and looked for knockouts. Clean Pee Timmy only talks about knock outs. I wouldn’t mind all his sh*t-talking if he would back it up. Don’t come out fight after fight and tell me how you’re a dominant heavyweight and how you’re going to knock this guy out or that guy out, then just hump them against the fence or use your monkey arms to land a few jabs and keep the other guy far enough away to avoid any contact.

“He’s a stud. I’ve been watching him for a long time. I was watching Nogueira when I wasn’t even fighting, yet, when I was just training. When I started fighting, I was watching him and I was like, “Wow, I’d like to fight him one day.”

Hahaa, sounds like Tim has some tingly feelings for Nog.

“Nog, I been watchin’ you. And I know you been watchin’ me, Nog!”

[quote comment=”280258″]Tim will destroy Big Nog. If he keps improving and does what he does best I do not see him getting beat in a long time. I would actually love to see him knock out Lesnar. I dont think Lesnar has felt a full punch in the head with a grappling glove before.[/quote]
i f you all think that timmieeeee will beat NOG
then who the F is saying if randy wouldve taken this fight it would have been better,
no thats a personality or likability test
RANY KILLED AND DOMINATED TIM S. for 5 FREAKING rounds at 44 years of age,
SO HOW CAN ONE THINK THAT ATIM s. WILL BEAT BIG NOG?????
THIS IS A STUPID MATCH UP AND RANDY NEEEDS TO FIGHT FEDOR

[quote comment=”280555″]As sick and twisted as it is…. Im rooting for Sylvia in this fight. I want to see the Mir Sylvia rematch and watch Mir break his other arm. :)[/quote]

Y dont u just root for Noguerra and Brock to win? That way the loosers Tim and Mir can square off. We can have a good champion in Noguerra and Brock would become a star?

Tim does not want Fedor, believe me. Fedor made his career on beating bigger guys like Tim.

Tim will destroy big nog standing up because he is much taller and has good hands, and I would really like to see how in the hell can big nog takedown sylvia, so could someone explain how can big nog win?

[quote comment=”280241″]Tim smash big nog… get belt back… bring to maine and kill moose or deer…let the hiliarity of it all ensue[/quote]
Dont be making fun of maine !

[quote comment=”280372″]most often the UFC are setting up the title shot for the fighter based on his previous MMA reputation,sometimes you’ll going to ask that “why he got a title shot & not the other guy?” example for dan henderson, he lost at a LHW title fight against rampage & then he drops down & get another title shot at MW just right after he lost his last fight,[/quote]

Dan Henderson got those fights because he is the PRIDE Champion at 205 and 183 lbs. PRIDE was no IFL. PRIDE was just as good, if not better than the UFC. No one in the UFC has ever held belts in two weight classes simultaneously. Dan Henderson did. I just rewatched the Hendo/Rampage fight and that fight really was much closer than I thought. I thought that Rampage was very deserving of his decision win the first time around, but the second time watching, that fight was VERY close, much closer than when I watched the first time. Anyways, Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson is to find out who the first ever undisputed MW champion is.

I don’t remember you complaining that Randy got an instant title shot at HW after getting KO’d by Chuck, beating Mike Van friggin Arsdale and then getting KO’d again by Chuck, all at LHW. Then he moves UP a wieght class and gets an instant title shot.

If either of those two scenerio’s are crazy, or shouldn’t have happened, it would be Couture/Sylvia. Not Hendo/Silva. Seriously, who do you think is the #1 contender to the MW belt right now?

[quote comment=”280549″]People bash Pride fighters but the reality is if Noguerra beats Tim, Pride fighters will hold the 3 Heavyiest UFC titles:

Heavyweight Champion: Antonio Rodrigo Noguerra
LightHeavyweight Champion: Quinton Rampage Jackson
Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva or Dan Henderson

If you want to really break down how Pride fighters have fought in the UFC, check this out. Most of the Pride fighters that got a UFC warm up fight have went on to put themselves in title contention. The one’s who didnt get a warm up fight and were thrown against top UFC fighters right away have not done good.

1.Rampage got a warm up fight against Marvin Eastman, he got the Octagon Jitters out and came back to Take the title.
2.Anderson Silva got a warm up fight against Leiben, and then went on to take the title.
3.Noguerra got a warm up fight against Hearing and he in now ready to take the title.

on the other hand Pride fighters who fought top competition with no warm up fights lost:
1.Shogun got thrown in there right away against Forrest and lost.
2.Sokoudjou lost to Machida in a fight in which the octagon jitters got the best of him
3.Wanderlei was thrown right in with Chuck and lost

All the fighters to have had a warm up fight have done well with the exception of cro cop.
Those who had to fight top contenders right away lost.

Could there be something to this trend? I dont want to see any more Pride fighters accept big UFC fights without giving them a warm up fight first.

Pride fighters are dominating the heavier divisions of the UFC. Why have the Pride fighters not dominated the lighter divisions? Thats simple, becaus ethe UFC hasn’t signed any welterweight or Lightweight fighters from Pride except Ryo Chonan who was thrown in there against Karo with no warm up fight.

When will the UFC bring in some Pride Lightweights and welterweights? I hear that Gomi is close to landing in the UFC. If he does, I hope they manage his career the right way. Give him a warm up fight 1st. I would suggest a simular situation as Noguerra. Give Gomi a warm up fight against Aurelio who he fought twice already. Like Noguerra got to warm up against Hearing whom he had fought twice already.

UFC should get:
Hellboy
Gomi
Mach
Gilbert
JZ
Shaolin Ribeiro

could u imagine the UFC Lightweight division if they were to add all those fighters? WOW!
It would then be time for the greatest Grand Prix Tournament of all time featuring ALL the TOP Lightweight fighters in the world. It would by far be the greatest tournament EVER[/quote]

Great Post Johh, and I agree with everything. The only problem I see is that since Gomi is the PRIDE LW champ, they will probably throw him the UFC champ immediately - just like they did with Hendo. He fought Rampage for the LHW unification in his first fight, and his 2nd is to unify the MW belt. So far, the PRIDE champs that were signed by the UFC got immediate shots at the title. NOTE: Hendo is the ONLY PRIDE champ that they signed as of yet.

To all the Pride lovers out there…

Anderson Silva did not ‘come from’ Pride, he only fought 5 times there out of 25 fights!

If anything he ‘came from’ cage rage.

So out of all the massive buzz in buying the rival organisation only Rampage has fulfilled the hype… 1 champ.

Nick J - yes Anderson did not come directly over from Pride, yes he has had 5 fights there, yes he was somewhat of a journeyman, 5 fights, that is as many or more than all his fights in any other org except maybe Meca World Vale Tudo, I beleive he has 5 fights now in the UFC, but my friend…Anderson made his name in Pride, lets face it, many people only knew of these 2 orgs, they were the heavyweights, not many people get Cage Rage ppvs ya know…

Also, Rogan and White referenced him as coming over from Pride,
so has Barnett, Hackleman, not so sure but maybe Liddell, I think Leben mentioned Pride before their fight, Jackson, and many others

* He came into the Pride ring dressed like Michael Jackson and moonwalked…He was a Pride fighter when he 1st came to the UFC

cant wait for Tim and Nog, but won’t be able to see it…

Hoping for Nog but this one will be tough due to their respective styles of fighting…

[quote comment=”280549″]People bash Pride fighters but the reality is if Noguerra beats Tim, Pride fighters will hold the 3 Heavyiest UFC titles:

Heavyweight Champion: Antonio Rodrigo Noguerra
LightHeavyweight Champion: Quinton Rampage Jackson
Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva or Dan Henderson

If you want to really break down how Pride fighters have fought in the UFC, check this out. Most of the Pride fighters that got a UFC warm up fight have went on to put themselves in title contention. The one’s who didnt get a warm up fight and were thrown against top UFC fighters right away have not done good.

1.Rampage got a warm up fight against Marvin Eastman, he got the Octagon Jitters out and came back to Take the title.
2.Anderson Silva got a warm up fight against Leiben, and then went on to take the title.
3.Noguerra got a warm up fight against Hearing and he in now ready to take the title.

on the other hand Pride fighters who fought top competition with no warm up fights lost:
1.Shogun got thrown in there right away against Forrest and lost.
2.Sokoudjou lost to Machida in a fight in which the octagon jitters got the best of him
3.Wanderlei was thrown right in with Chuck and lost

All the fighters to have had a warm up fight have done well with the exception of cro cop.
Those who had to fight top contenders right away lost.

Could there be something to this trend? I dont want to see any more Pride fighters accept big UFC fights without giving them a warm up fight first.

Pride fighters are dominating the heavier divisions of the UFC. Why have the Pride fighters not dominated the lighter divisions? Thats simple, becaus ethe UFC hasn’t signed any welterweight or Lightweight fighters from Pride except Ryo Chonan who was thrown in there against Karo with no warm up fight.

When will the UFC bring in some Pride Lightweights and welterweights? I hear that Gomi is close to landing in the UFC. If he does, I hope they manage his career the right way. Give him a warm up fight 1st. I would suggest a simular situation as Noguerra. Give Gomi a warm up fight against Aurelio who he fought twice already. Like Noguerra got to warm up against Hearing whom he had fought twice already.

UFC should get:
Hellboy
Gomi
Mach
Gilbert
JZ
Shaolin Ribeiro

could u imagine the UFC Lightweight division if they were to add all those fighters? WOW!
It would then be time for the greatest Grand Prix Tournament of all time featuring ALL the TOP Lightweight fighters in the world. It would by far be the greatest tournament EVER[/quote]

True Story.

[quote comment=”280696″]So out of all the massive buzz in buying the rival organisation only Rampage has fulfilled the hype… 1 champ.[/quote]
Just because the Pride fighters don’t currently have all the belts (2 out 4 with the fifth up for grabs soon) doesn’t mean the Pride purchase was a waste. We’re getting a lot of quality fights and great fighters, not to mention some much-needed depth in several divisions.

nog will beat tims ass so he should not even bring up fedor.

God another reign of boring big tim. I actually think he’ll beat big nog and that will suck, tims one of the most boring fighters out there, and only wins with his sheer size.

[quote comment=”280979″]God another reign of boring big tim. I actually think he’ll beat big nog and that will suck, tims one of the most boring fighters out there, and only wins with his sheer size.[/quote]

don’t worry nathan nog will win

[quote comment=”281048″][quote comment=”280979″]God another reign of boring big tim. I actually think he’ll beat big nog and that will suck, tims one of the most boring fighters out there, and only wins with his sheer size.[/quote]

don’t worry nathan nog will win[/quote]

God I hope your right.

sylvia will probably decision nog but fedor would destroy him, imo. there are guys in the UFC that could have a good chance to beat fedor but sylvia isn’t one of them

Timmy!

God I hate this fat slob. This was a terrible fight that was put together. Neither one of these guy are marketable by any means. They need to get Couture back fighting or get Arlovski into immediate title contention.

If there is one thing I’ve learned. I have stopped paying to see Tim Sylvia fight. At least as a headliner…
I still see the fights I just dont pay for the ones i don’t think are worthy.

Anyway, every Timmy fight I get rev’d up because i always think this is it!… the old tim sylvia is back.
And of course im disappointed win or lose.

But I would love the return of Tim “I just caved in Cabbages face” Sylvia. That Tim will wreck most of the HW division.
Sadly the more recent Tim will dry hump his way to a decision victory.

I want Nog to lose. No particular reason, i just do.
I want Mir to be back… Old Mir vs. Nog could be very interesting.

i think we are going too see a MUCH IMPROVED STRIKING GAME FROM NOGUEIRA in this fight.

Do you know why?

Guess who the guy has been training with?

LYOTO AND DA SPYDA IN BLACK HOUSE!!!!

hes gonna start off feeling out tim, throw a few kicks then wait for tim to throw a jab, duck under, get inside, clinch, throw a few knees, hopefully stay this way for a while, take big tim down, or more likely pull guard and work his submission magic.

I dont see nog being able too take tim down, his TD is pretty good, but nog is the best mma fighter in the world at fighting off his back, and timmy is not gunna be able to KO him, fedor hit nog with some fucking POWERFUL punches in their encounters and couldnt finish him.

Too be honest, i dont think the fight is going too be a barn burner, more of a technical chess match type of fight ending in submission.

WAR NOGUEIRA!

SHOW THE UFC WHAT PRIDE IS MADE OF!

what do you guys think of my analysis?

did’nt read any of ya’ll shit to get all the way down to this point. Tim needs redemtion. Tim will win.

[quote comment=”280390″]if nog can go three rounds with fedor and beat bob sapp i dont see why tim sylvia is gonna be a problem. sure he has game but the fedor is an awesome fighter and if nog can go three rounds with him, how is tim gonna stop him?[/quote]
Ah, Tim is a giant who hits harder than Fedor.

[quote comment=”280520″][quote comment=”280509″][quote comment=”280361″]I don’t know about this fight i really don’t think Big Nog deserves to be fighting actually for the title, its all bunch of BS if you ask me.[/quote]

Who else at this time deserves a title shot that is ready for one??[/quote]

Noguerra doesn’t deserve a title shot? But Tim does? U obviously have never seen PRIDE.

Nog will out box him, out clinch him, get the trip and out work Tim on the ground till he taps, which will make him the 3rd Pride fighter to hold the UFC title at this point in time.[/quote]
John, how is Nog going to do all of that when he is laying on the mat unconcious? Yes, I’m familiar with Nog and I still say Tim wins. I can’t stand Tim, but Tim still wins.

[quote comment=”280724″][quote comment=”280549″]People bash Pride fighters but the reality is if Noguerra beats Tim, Pride fighters will hold the 3 Heavyiest UFC titles:

Heavyweight Champion: Antonio Rodrigo Noguerra
LightHeavyweight Champion: Quinton Rampage Jackson
Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva or Dan Henderson

If you want to really break down how Pride fighters have fought in the UFC, check this out. Most of the Pride fighters that got a UFC warm up fight have went on to put themselves in title contention. The one’s who didnt get a warm up fight and were thrown against top UFC fighters right away have not done good.

1.Rampage got a warm up fight against Marvin Eastman, he got the Octagon Jitters out and came back to Take the title.
2.Anderson Silva got a warm up fight against Leiben, and then went on to take the title.
3.Noguerra got a warm up fight against Hearing and he in now ready to take the title.

on the other hand Pride fighters who fought top competition with no warm up fights lost:
1.Shogun got thrown in there right away against Forrest and lost.
2.Sokoudjou lost to Machida in a fight in which the octagon jitters got the best of him
3.Wanderlei was thrown right in with Chuck and lost

All the fighters to have had a warm up fight have done well with the exception of cro cop.
Those who had to fight top contenders right away lost.

Could there be something to this trend? I dont want to see any more Pride fighters accept big UFC fights without giving them a warm up fight first.

Pride fighters are dominating the heavier divisions of the UFC. Why have the Pride fighters not dominated the lighter divisions? Thats simple, becaus ethe UFC hasn’t signed any welterweight or Lightweight fighters from Pride except Ryo Chonan who was thrown in there against Karo with no warm up fight.

When will the UFC bring in some Pride Lightweights and welterweights? I hear that Gomi is close to landing in the UFC. If he does, I hope they manage his career the right way. Give him a warm up fight 1st. I would suggest a simular situation as Noguerra. Give Gomi a warm up fight against Aurelio who he fought twice already. Like Noguerra got to warm up against Hearing whom he had fought twice already.

UFC should get:
Hellboy
Gomi
Mach
Gilbert
JZ
Shaolin Ribeiro

could u imagine the UFC Lightweight division if they were to add all those fighters? WOW!
It would then be time for the greatest Grand Prix Tournament of all time featuring ALL the TOP Lightweight fighters in the world. It would by far be the greatest tournament EVER[/quote]

True Story.[/quote]
All of this could be summed up with , Rampage and Silva are doing great, the rest suck (so far). Page and Silva are dominant,yes, but to say Pride is dominating the top 3 divisions is laughable.

[quote post=”4694″]Dan Henderson got those fights because he is the PRIDE Champion at 205 and 183 lbs. PRIDE was no IFL. PRIDE was just as good, if not better than the UFC. No one in the UFC has ever held belts in two weight classes simultaneously. Dan Henderson did. I just rewatched the Hendo/Rampage fight and that fight really was much closer than I thought. I thought that Rampage was very deserving of his decision win the first time around, but the second time watching, that fight was VERY close, much closer than when I watched the first time. Anyways, Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson is to find out who the first ever undisputed MW champion is.[/quote]
Just to show how stupid this Pride vs UFC thing is , Henderson was a UFC fighter who went to pride and took TWO of THEIR BELTS. The compotition in the UFC was too tough for him to win two belts,but in Pride it was easy.

i rewatched the herring / nog fight a couple of times.
herrings face looked a bit like like hannibals flesh face after nog
herring, had taken a fair bit of punishment before the ONE big kick. he wasn’t in great shape at the end of the 1st and beginning of second rnds. i also think he was afraid of nog’s guard. that explains why he didn’t seem to really go all out for the finish.

also he didnt really go for much in the way of takedowns.

big tim will also wanna keep it standing.

nog walked right into a full strength kick by herring and survived (otherwise he was outclassed pretty much the whole time- even the first before the head kick).

so,
big tim aint likely gonna KO Nog. nog hits at least as hard as couture but boxes better.
i think tim will be even more concerned about taking it to the mat with nog than couture.
he may wanna cage clinch like he did against vera that worked OK. tim is hard to takedown up close or from a distance.

nog isnt obsessed with getting takedowns. in fact with elbows he probably wants to be on his back less. if it gets to a lot of sprawling tim will be strugglin. i like big tim and dont mind his lay and prey fights - vbut i cant see him winning this one

Well..
There it is..
Another victory for Pride an brazilian jiujitsu.

well yes there it is tim does look like an idiot and both his dreams beacame a nightmare he was defeated by both nog and feddor