What does Sherk have in his arsenal that Hughes and Stevenson dont? NOTHING! This fight will go the same way as this past saturdays fight….it will also end in a rear naked choke!

I respect BJs incredible skills but I believe Sean Sherk is getting a raw deal with this steroid BS and has always carried himself as a professional.

I hope Sherk beats the crap out of BJ to shut up that arrogant MOFO and I’ll be betting that he does. Fact is if BJ doesn’t finish him with 2 rounds, BJ can kiss his belt goodbye.

[quote comment=”275338″]I respect BJs incredible skills but I believe Sean Sherk is getting a raw deal with this steroid BS and has always carried himself as a professional.

I hope Sherk beats the crap out of BJ to shut up that arrogant MOFO and I’ll be betting that he does. Fact is if BJ doesn’t finish him with 2 rounds, BJ can kiss his belt goodbye.[/quote]

What can sherk do that Hughes and stevenson couldn’t? Nothing they all have the same skill set. If you t hink Sherks takedowns, ju jitsu, and g n p is better then Hughes’s then u dont know what u r talking about. Penn dealt with Hughes when he wasnt in half as good of shape that he will be against Sherk.

I think Penn is right…Sherk is a dead man. No disrespect to Franca, but his ju jitsu is not on BJ’s level….then again no one’s is!

If you are looking for someone to dethrown Penn, u better find something different then a submission wrestler in great shape with good ground n pound, cause Penn has proved it time and again that those skill sets cant beat him!

I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.

im a fan of both guys.. and im sorry bj. im gonna go with the less conceited one. war sherk..

[quote comment=”275354″][quote comment=”275338″]I respect BJs incredible skills but I believe Sean Sherk is getting a raw deal with this steroid BS and has always carried himself as a professional.

I hope Sherk beats the crap out of BJ to shut up that arrogant MOFO and I’ll be betting that he does. Fact is if BJ doesn’t finish him with 2 rounds, BJ can kiss his belt goodbye.[/quote]

What can sherk do that Hughes and stevenson couldn’t? Nothing they all have the same skill set. If you t hink Sherks takedowns, ju jitsu, and g n p is better then Hughes’s then u dont know what u r talking about. Penn dealt with Hughes when he wasnt in half as good of shape that he will be against Sherk.

I think Penn is right…Sherk is a dead man. No disrespect to Franca, but his ju jitsu is not on BJ’s level….then again no one’s is!

If you are looking for someone to dethrown Penn, u better find something different then a submission wrestler in great shape with good ground n pound, cause Penn has proved it time and again that those skill sets cant beat him![/quote]

It’s real simple my friend. IF Sherk can avoid being submitted in the first two rounds (big if). He will grind out a decision when BJ runs out of gas. he might even get a stoppage if he can hold BJ down in a later round and pound on him. Don’t forget this will be a five round fight and Sherk has proven he can take some serious shots without being KO’d.

So basically. BJ is not likely to KO Sherk and if Sherk can avoid his subs for two rounds then the odds go to Sean’s favor as the fight progresses.

BJ is a little bitch. Sherk will show him that. Regardless of if he did steriods Franca did them too. So it was a fair fight.

I think Sherk could have handled himself a bit more professionally in the ring. But then I guess he feels that the belt was taken from him without justification. I guess they all can’t be GSP. I will be interested in seeing his levels of nandrolone after the next fight.

I think BJ will have a better take down defense then Franca does. I think if Sherk is going to shoot and then shoot again he’ll have a hard time. Plus BJ is better at striking. I think Sherk will have to apply a great deal of pressure and test BJ’s cardio (which still wasn’t fully tested in his last fight)

“What can sherk do that Hughes and stevenson couldn’t? Nothing they all have the same skill set. If you t hink Sherks takedowns, ju jitsu, and g n p is better then Hughes’s then u dont know what u r talking about. Penn dealt with Hughes when he wasnt in half as good of shape that he will be against Sherk.”

Well, let’s compare. Sherk has better takedowns than Hughes. Especially at 155 he is much faster. His boxing and more specifically hand speed is better than Hughes, also. Conditioning is equal if not better than Hughes which means it overwhelms BJPenn.com’s cardio. In fact, Hughes and Sherk are very much same animal and Hughes won their matchup largely on his size advantage. Sherk went the distance and BJ got stopped after eating about 40 straight shots to the face by Hughes.

All that said, it may seem as if I am saying Sherk will run through BJ. I’m not. But John, no way BJ runs thru Sherk either. I think it will be exciting as h*ll and can’t wait for this fight.

[quote comment=”275373″]BJ is a little bitch. Sherk will show him that. Regardless of if he did steriods Franca did them too. So it was a fair fight.[/quote]

Yea, why cant everyone do roids and be done with it… :s

I have to say BJ looked to be gassed to me either, At the beginning of the second round, even tough he had been beaten for five minutes, Joe Daddy appeared to have much more energy.

I love BJ but I think sherk will gas him out and control him in later rounds like GSP did

Sherk should arrange with the UFC to do random drug testing with an outside third party. He needs to do something to help clear his reputation. I personally believe him, especially since he passed his lie-detector.

[quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]

I completely concur. BJ might have been doing a bit of acting with that leaning on Herb Dean but there is no doubt that Sherk will not run out of steam and BJ will.

I think Sean will win the fight against BJ. You can’t discount that Sherk is HIGHLY motivated in this one.

[quote comment=”275371″][quote comment=”275354″][quote comment=”275338″]I respect BJs incredible skills but I believe Sean Sherk is getting a raw deal with this steroid BS and has always carried himself as a professional.

I hope Sherk beats the crap out of BJ to shut up that arrogant MOFO and I’ll be betting that he does. Fact is if BJ doesn’t finish him with 2 rounds, BJ can kiss his belt goodbye.[/quote]

What can sherk do that Hughes and stevenson couldn’t? Nothing they all have the same skill set. If you t hink Sherks takedowns, ju jitsu, and g n p is better then Hughes’s then u dont know what u r talking about. Penn dealt with Hughes when he wasnt in half as good of shape that he will be against Sherk.

I think Penn is right…Sherk is a dead man. No disrespect to Franca, but his ju jitsu is not on BJ’s level….then again no one’s is!

If you are looking for someone to dethrown Penn, u better find something different then a submission wrestler in great shape with good ground n pound, cause Penn has proved it time and again that those skill sets cant beat him![/quote]

It’s real simple my friend. IF Sherk can avoid being submitted in the first two rounds (big if). He will grind out a decision when BJ runs out of gas. he might even get a stoppage if he can hold BJ down in a later round and pound on him. Don’t forget this will be a five round fight and Sherk has proven he can take some serious shots without being KO’d.

So basically. BJ is not likely to KO Sherk and if Sherk can avoid his subs for two rounds then the odds go to Sean’s favor as the fight progresses.[/quote]

Dana Blanco, u make good points but I really dont see Sherk even lasting 3 rouds let alone 5. Sherk wants to take everyone to the ground. tHERE ARE 2 problems with that

1. BJ takedown defense is legendary. Its not the traditional sprawl that we see Chuck and everyone else use. Its a crazy takedown defense based on balance and Flexability (which no fighter comes close to matching BJ’s dexterity, maybe Akoi, but thats it). Sherk cant find a training partner that can mimick that takedown defense, so there is no real way of sherk to practice against it. There is a long list of fighters that had equal to or better takedowns then Sherk, who had fits trying to take BJ down, and most of them had trouble taking down the old and out of shape BJ…so imagine how those fights would have went against the new and well conditioned BJ.

Fighters who had trouble taking BJ down, that have takedowns on sherks level or better:

Joe daddy
Matt Hughe’s
GSP

2. Once sherk gets the fight to the ground, theres no way that he will be able to control BJ. BJ’s flexability will come into play again. BJ will scramble and use his circus freak like flexability to get dominant positions against Sherk, and ultimately get back control, control 1 of sherks arms with his monkey like legs (As he did Jens and Joe) and sink in the rear naked choke, no later then round 2

By the way, I dont think BJ breathing Heavily at the end of the fight has anything to do with how the fight will turn out.
I think BJ was in phenominal shape, not just for him, but for all fighters in general his conditioning was at a high level. Its just that after winning the fight, there is a releasa and all the emotions take over causing him to naturally breathe heavily. There aren’t many times that fighters dont breath heavily after the fights and during the interview with Rogan. A better judge of cardio, is how hard he is breathing in between rounds, not when the fight is over. He looked as good as one possably could in betweein round 1 and 2, and that hasn’t been the case in the past.

I will admit that there is no hard evidence that can prove that BJ’s newfound conditioning could hang with Sherk for 5 rounds. It would have been nice to see Joe put up a better fight and take the fight into the better rounds to evaluate how BJ could do in a 5 rounder against cardio machine sherk.
But BJ’s dominance came through and like I thought the fight didn’t make it to the 3rd round, which I strongly believe will be the same case in the sherk fight.

Sherk wont make it to round 3 against BJ. He will get choked out the same way Hughes, Jens, and Joe all did. I think highly of sherks skills. I dont like the roids and the fact that he fights like once a year, but his skills and conditioning I dont question. I just think that BJ matches up real well with anyone who’s gameplan is to take the fight to the ground and grapple with him. I dont think anyone at 155 or 170 can grapple with him……..REAL TALK!

[quote comment=”275385″]I think Sherk could have handled himself a bit more professionally in the ring. But then I guess he feels that the belt was taken from him without justification. I guess they all can’t be GSP. I will be interested in seeing his levels of nandrolone after the next fight.

I think BJ will have a better take down defense then Franca does. I think if Sherk is going to shoot and then shoot again he’ll have a hard time. Plus BJ is better at striking. I think Sherk will have to apply a great deal of pressure and test BJ’s cardio (which still wasn’t fully tested in his last fight)[/quote]
ARE U JOKEING BJ WAS TALKIN TRASH FIRST…THEN WHEN HE SAW SEAN WAS THERE HE CAME BACK TO SHAKE HIS HAND…BJ BETTER B PRAYING TO GOD THIS FIGHT ENDS EARLY IF IT GOES TO THE 2ND ROUND HE IS DONE I FOR 1 CANT WAIT TO SEE SEAN BEAT DOWN BJ IM SICK OF HIS COCKY ASS

[quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]

I don’t think that was BJ looking gassed, I think it was a culmination of his relief that he has acheived what he wanted in taking the belt. He didn’t seem tired to me.

Sherk is going to tap out. Maybe not by rear naked choke, because he has no neck because he takes steroids, but he will tap out. Sherk cuts about 40lbs below his natural weight to fight guys he knows are smaller and not as strong as he is (its similar to Rich Franklin cutting weight to fight at lightweight) and when he has to fight one that has some actual talent and that may be an actual threat to his title(Franca) he takes steroids. I know franca took roids too but at least he manned p and took responsibility and his suspension like a man. There are plenty of guys who fight ad take tests afterwards and dont test posiive for steroids. You know why, because they dont take steroids!!! BJ was right when he called Sherk a cheater, because thats what he is and thats what he tried to do.I loved it when Rogan told him that it must be frustrating for him to hear when they announced BJ as the lightweightchamp. It was classic Rogan-teling it like it is and not giving a s*it who he said it to. I cant wait to see BJ with the title around his waist after the early stoppage of their fight. BJ is not as strong as Sean, but he has far more talent than Sherk ever will.

[quote comment=”275390″]”What can sherk do that Hughes and stevenson couldn’t? Nothing they all have the same skill set. If you t hink Sherks takedowns, ju jitsu, and g n p is better then Hughes’s then u dont know what u r talking about. Penn dealt with Hughes when he wasnt in half as good of shape that he will be against Sherk.”

Well, let’s compare. Sherk has better takedowns than Hughes. Especially at 155 he is much faster. His boxing and more specifically hand speed is better than Hughes, also. Conditioning is equal if not better than Hughes which means it overwhelms BJPenn.com’s cardio.

In fact, Hughes and Sherk are very much same animal and Hughes won their matchup largely on his size advantage. Sherk went the distance and BJ got stopped after eating about 40 straight shots to the face by Hughes.

All that said, it may seem as if I am saying Sherk will run through BJ. I’m not.

But John, no way BJ runs thru Sherk either. I think it will be exciting as h*ll and can’t wait for this fight.[/quote]

U forgot to comment on what happened in the first Hughes/Penn fight. I honestly dont see Sherk getting past round 3…He will have a hard time taking BJ down, but I will admit that he will eventually get him to the ground. The problem with that is that BJ is almost uncontrolable on the ground, and he will use his flexability to put himself in dominant positions.
The only time BJ has ever been controlled on the ground was against Hughe’s in their 2nd fightbut not until the 3rd round. BJ clearly came into that fight overconfident, and under conditioned and still was whooping on Hughe’s till the 3rd round when BJ’s rib broke. I think its a mistake for ANY AMERICAN fighters to go to the ground with BJ. The only American close to BJ’s skills is maybe Matt Serra, but still his unmatched flexability puts him at a whole other level!

You know how u know a fighter is the TRUTH? U know I fighter is the real deal when the only arguments that can be made against him are that someone else may have better cardio. Well guess what Cardio is much easier to improve on then skills and flexability.

With that said and based on everyones agruments against BJ beating Sherk:

All BJ needs to do to beat Sherk is improve conditioning, which is very doable.

but on the Flipside, Sherk has to iincrease all his skills, and somehow learn to put his legs behind his head and learn to use his legs like arms as well as probably improve on his stand up which is probably a little better then Joe daddy’s but no where near as good as GSP (who happens to be one of my favorite fighters, and BJ picked him apart standing in round 1)

I dont know how u see this thing, but as I pointed out clearly Sherk has a lot more work to do by May 25th in order to beat BJ, then BJ does in order to beat Sherk

Penn via submission in round 2 (rear naked choke)….which is what will happen to everysingle american wrestler that tries to take the fight to the ground against a conditioned BJ

This is shaping up to be the best year in the UFC by far. Other than UFC 81, there is nothing but killer cards on the horizon. I love it!

[quote comment=”275457″]This is shaping up to be the best year in the UFC by far. Other than UFC 81, there is nothing but killer cards on the horizon. I love it![/quote]
[quote comment=”275457″]This is shaping up to be the best year in the UFC by far. Other than UFC 81, there is nothing but killer cards on the horizon. I love it![/quote]

Yeah, I agree, but the anorexic Heavyweight division is a big concern. Heavyweights have always been the main draw in all combat sports and with Randy Gone, Fedor Gone, Arlovski poised to join them, Gonzaga-Cro Cop-Verra all loosing. The heavyweight division should be a big concern to everyone. It is a mess, that looks to only get worse…Something has got to change, Mir needs to turn into Superman, Brock needs to start whipping out Gogo Plata’s, Kongo needs to start booting peoples heads to the nose bleed sevction….I dont know….Something has got to happen to spice up the division.

God give Noguerra the strength to save us from another title reign from the most boring champion in UFC history (about 50 times more boring then sherk) Tim Sylvia….PLEASE SAVE US, because it will be a dark day in mma if Sylvia walks away from UFC 81 with the belt around his sloppy waste

[quote comment=”275418″][quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]

I completely concur. BJ might have been doing a bit of acting with that leaning on Herb Dean but there is no doubt that Sherk will not run out of steam and BJ will.

I think Sean will win the fight against BJ. You can’t discount that Sherk is HIGHLY motivated in this one.[/quote]

You guys need to read the previous threads. There were a few theories why BJ looked gassed.

Theory one
Adrenaline rush for winning fight.

Theory two
BJ trying to give future opponents (Sherk) false impression about his cardio

Theory three (My theory)
He was being respectful to Joe ‘Daddy’. Trying to give the impression of a tough war but it wasn’t.

Theory four (Most unlikely)
He was genuinely gassed.

During the fight, BJ didn’t slow. When the fight was stopped, all of a sudden we had a ‘Rocky’ moment i.e. got up as if he threw has last punch with all he had left.

I love BJ but he is a poor actor.

He is a great and respectful fighter and was very respectful to Joe and his family and this is all it was.

I respect everyone that walks into the Octagon because it takes balls, but Sherk will not win. Sherk is good but not good enough.

if these are all on the same card ,this will be better then any card in 5 years

OK guys i have a crazy prediction. I am a BJ PENN fan so lets say by some small chance bj couldnt finish sherk it went to the judges ,they give the win to sherk only to test positive for STEROIDS again, i hope that sherk leaves for good nobody believes him except his wife and mom….lol

[quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]
I don’t think penn was gassed at all, just over come with emotion, he looked the same after he beat hughes. I’ve seen people get “weak” in the knee’s when there over come with emotion before and that’s exactly what penn looked like to me. Penn was in top shape, spars for hours and your telling me he’s gassed after 2 rounds with stevenson a fight he effortlessly dominated? C’mon people open up your minds a little bit, if someone falls to the canvas don’t just assume there tired, penn won the “light weight championship” his dream come true, many fighers do similar things like falling down when they do the next to impossible. As far as penn’s fight with sherk, I have to disagree with those who completely dismiss sherk, and think he’s just a carbon copy of stevenson and hughes. First off watch the sherk/st.pierre fight again if you think sherk has poor boxing, his striking is much better than hughe’s and is better than stevenson’s. MMA math doesn’t always work so don’t bother with that…A beats B and B beats C, don’t assume A with beat C it doesn’t always work. Styles make fights, sherk isn’t hughes or stevenson, there similar but not he same. I still think IF penn wins this fight it has to be by stoppage within 3 rounds, I’m calling it now IF it goes to a decision penn will lose, I’m sure of that.

I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad ass way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD ASS!!!

If anyone noticed, penn was acting “faint” or gassed in the locker room too after the fight, leaning on people… c’mon guys, it’s just his way, he’s done it after every big win he’s had. Watch him after a grueling fight with st.pierre which he lost, he looked somber and definitely not gassed when he should have been. I find it amusing how people just assume something like this, maybe wishful thinking I don’t know but I can assure you Penn wasn’t gassed.

Id go with a combo of the theorys, 1 2 and 3, but 4 LoL I hope Sherk saw the same “gased out” Penn that all you saw so he puts all his eggs into the basket of “testing Penn’s conditioning” To be honest, what else can you do, regardless of if your Sherk or GSP (In other words, do you think either one of these guys is going to submit or knock out BJ Penn???) LoL, NO, Both of their game plans are the same “try to out work ‘em” HEHEHAHAHAHA!! By next year Sherk will just be a distant memory at the begining of this all, and GSP will soon be looking across the octagon at the one guy that he himself has to atleast say “Could have gone either way” (And he was a fat kid, whats this anaconda moving, lion attacking, precision striking to your dome BJ Penn gonna do to me” Then we will see whats what. . .

I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad *ss way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD *SS!!!

[quote comment=”275532″]Id go with a combo of the theorys, 1 2 and 3, but 4 LoL I hope Sherk saw the same “gased out” Penn that all you saw so he puts all his eggs into the basket of “testing Penn’s conditioning” To be honest, what else can you do, regardless of if your Sherk or GSP (In other words, do you think either one of these guys is going to submit or knock out BJ Penn???) LoL, NO, Both of their game plans are the same “try to out work ‘em” HEHEHAHAHAHA!! By next year Sherk will just be a distant memory at the begining of this all, and GSP will soon be looking across the octagon at the one guy that he himself has to atleast say “Could have gone either way” (And he was a fat kid, whats this anaconda moving, lion attacking, precision striking to your dome BJ Penn gonna do to me” Then we will see whats what. . .[/quote]

Is that you BJ???? lol

I agree, it was a combo of the first three.

I think if BJ and GSP fought 10 times, each would win 5. I’m mega fans of both.

I’m mega fan of both……jeez :s

[quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]

man dont you see it? BJ Penn lean against joe rogan & ref because he almost cried cause by hapiness he felt when he won, imagine won WW & LW title? & also remember when penn beats hughes,when penn’s corner is coming to reach him when he won he also fall down to the canvas because he cant carry the joy he felt, so BJ’s not gassed in UFC 80

[quote comment=”275337″]What does Sherk have in his arsenal that Hughes and Stevenson dont? NOTHING! This fight will go the same way as this past saturdays fight….it will also end in a rear naked choke![/quote]

Yeah, I look at a few things as evidence that Sherk won’t be too much of a problem for Penn.

First, remember how Penn handled Matt Hughes’s takedown attempts. He stuffed most of them and was able to do a lot from his back, when Hughes finally did take him down. I can’t imagine that Sherk is any stronger than Hughes.

Second, remember how Sherk was handled by GSP. That fight wasn’t even close. The GSP vs. Penn fight, however, was extremely close. GSP, it could be argued, won by a takedown.

Penn’s standup is sharp and powerful. His jiu-jitsu is arguable the best. And his takedown defense is second to none.

The only way Sherk wins is by keeping this fight boring.

LET THE TRASH TALKING BEGIN!!!!

[quote comment=”275522″]I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad ass way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD ASS!!![/quote]

They should have played that song after finishing Joe while still in the ring…Kind of like how Pride did after the main events had ended…It would have been a real cool moment…That song is dope, it like the calm before the storm,,,,its up there with the Fedor song.

Anyone know the names and the singers of Fedor and BJ
’s entry songs?

[quote comment=”275537″][quote comment=”275532″]Id go with a combo of the theorys, 1 2 and 3, but 4 LoL I hope Sherk saw the same “gased out” Penn that all you saw so he puts all his eggs into the basket of “testing Penn’s conditioning” To be honest, what else can you do, regardless of if your Sherk or GSP (In other words, do you think either one of these guys is going to submit or knock out BJ Penn???) LoL, NO, Both of their game plans are the same “try to out work ‘em” HEHEHAHAHAHA!! By next year Sherk will just be a distant memory at the begining of this all, and GSP will soon be looking across the octagon at the one guy that he himself has to atleast say “Could have gone either way” (And he was a fat kid, whats this anaconda moving, lion attacking, precision striking to your dome BJ Penn gonna do to me” Then we will see whats what. . .[/quote]

Is that you BJ???? lol

I agree, it was a combo of the first three.

I think if BJ and GSP fought 10 times, each would win 5. I’m mega fans of both.[/quote]
And i ment GSP has to atleast say that in the first fight it could have gone either way between BJ and himself (And if you dont agree, why was GSP so thrilled when they called his name, yes cause it ment a title rematch shot with Matt Hughes but because at that point no one knew who won the fight not GSP and not BJ Penn) I think it would go 6-4 . . . BJ’s favor obviously LoL I Could be BJ, who knows huh, go to BJPENN.COM if you have anymore questions LoL

Exactly! Let the trash talking begin.

First of all, BJ has shown once again why he’s a threat to both, the lightweight and welterweight divisions. Cardio may be a factor due to his performance during the GSP and Hughes fights. However, BJ managed to refocus, and is determine to demolish both weight classes. So far, he showed no mercy when fighting Pulver and Stevenson, impressing the judges and fans with his takedown defense, and illest jiu-jitsu talent. By far, BJ Penn will be on the top of his game for a long period of time.

Sherk on the other hand, is a mirrored reflection of matt hughes, but posseses extreme cardio. He showed everyone that he is at the top of the lightweight chain, but has never fought anyone close to BJ’s upper level skills than most jiu-jitsu fighters. (people don’t realize that when “rolling” with BJ Penn, his legs are like arms, or more like tentacles of an octupus!) This will definitely fustrate Sherk throughout the rounds, and eventually giving PENN either his upper or lower limbs. Better yet, givin’ up his back! haha.

I see this fight with BJ, submmitting Sherk in the late 2nd round due to a rear naked choke.

99.9%, all these trash talkers towards PENN will be hoppin’ on the f*uckin’ bandwagon after this fight… SUCKERS!

[quote comment=”275418″][quote comment=”275355″]I’m a die hard BJ Penn fan, but an article I just read on Sherdog made a good point.

Did it look like to anyone else that BJ Penn looked really gased when he won in the second round. I mean he was leaning up against the ref and Joe Rogan when they announced he was the winner and when he did the interview. I know BJ Penn has all the skills to win, but I know Sherk has no problem going 5 or even 7 rounds (maybe things will be different now though bc he’s off the juice).

Let me know if you concur.[/quote]

I completely concur. BJ might have been doing a bit of acting with that leaning on Herb Dean but there is no doubt that Sherk will not run out of steam and BJ will.

I think Sean will win the fight against BJ. You can’t discount that Sherk is HIGHLY motivated in this one.[/quote]

BJ Penn was not tired. He went non stop that whole fight. He f’d stevenson up and he’ll do it to the muscle B*&$h.

I JUS PRAY THIS CARD COMES TRUE…GETTIN TO SEE BJ GET BEAT DOWN BY SEAN SHERK…AND ALSO THIAGO SILVA KILL THAT OVERRATED RASHAD IM JUNK EVANS EVANS HAS NO CHANCE IN THIS FIGHT AND ITS GREAT…TITO BEAT HIM DOWN BUT GOT ROBBED AND IM NOT SURE OVERRATED RASHAD BEAT BISPING

IM BETTING RASHAD FAKES AN INJURY LIKE SERRA TO GET OUT OF A SURE BEAT DOWN

JOHn i totally agree of what u mention i think bj was so happy that he accomplished what he wanted to so badly the belt.

I’ve watched boxing matches where someone will blow his load after getting his opponent in some trouble, hoping for a knockout, and later gassing because of the expended effort. I too am a big BJ Penn fan, but I can’t help but wonder what might have happened if the match went to a third round. Joe looked incredibly hyped, but BJ to start the 2nd round honestly looked a little bit tired. I’m not sure if anyone could keep that frenetic of a pace up for long without gassing, but that seems to be the contradiction; if you have your opponent in trouble, do you take the opportunity and go for the knockout, or do let him stand up, ala Chuck Liddel vs. Jeremy Horn II?

A question to all submission fans, who do you think is the best submissions specialist? I have seen alot of great submission grappling and think with out a doubt right know it is BJ, flexability is amazing watch any of his old submission videos and you will see. I hope for sherks sake this fight will not go to the ground because we all know what will happen. Something new to everyone has anyone checked out the Professional Submission League? Lots of great fighters, very technical and cool videos on you tube. This website called mma classicsc has the videos and the league just had it’s second event with Couture being one of the participants.

i wanna see bj win by gogoplata just cause its so tight and so technical

I see Sherk winning by boring decision

[quote comment=”275570″][quote comment=”275522″]I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad ass way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD ASS!!![/quote]

They should have played that song after finishing Joe while still in the ring…Kind of like how Pride did after the main events had ended…It would have been a real cool moment…That song is dope, it like the calm before the storm,,,,its up there with the Fedor song.

Anyone know the names and the singers of Fedor and BJ
’s entry songs?[/quote]
Hey JOHN Penn’s entrance song is done by “big IZ”, or just “IZ”, any one of those keywords should bring him up. He’s the same guy that does that Hawaii’n over the rainbow, he’s dead now and i get teh impression he is to Hawaii’n music, as Tupac and BIG are to rap.

[quote comment=”275690″][quote comment=”275570″][quote comment=”275522″]I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad ass way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD ASS!!![/quote]

They should have played that song after finishing Joe while still in the ring…Kind of like how Pride did after the main events had ended…It would have been a real cool moment…That song is dope, it like the calm before the storm,,,,its up there with the Fedor song.

Anyone know the names and the singers of Fedor and BJ
’s entry songs?[/quote]
Hey JOHN Penn’s entrance song is done by “big IZ”, or just “IZ”, any one of those keywords should bring him up. He’s the same guy that does that Hawaii’n over the rainbow, he’s dead now and i get teh impression he is to Hawaii’n music, as Tupac and BIG are to rap.[/quote]
I answered that question in my second sentence : The songs Hawaii 78 (First 20 seconds) Then it goes into a song called E Ala E, both by a Hawaiian singer named Israel Kamakawiwo’ole Or Bruddah IZ. As far as BJs goes. I dont know Fedors . . .

I’m stoked for this card already!

Im stoked for the couple months of sh8t talking we all get to do with each other! Bring it, bring on the reasoning and arguements ’til that UFC 85 theme music starts on our “set to record” on demand and other cable boxes!!
And do we all agree that Joe Rogan knows his sh*t MMA wise??? Cause for all you shirk fans, i would have to say Joe thinks pretty highly of BJ. Why would that be if BJ isnt as good as the “hype” Could it be because its not “hype” its fact?? And Sherk was on BJ’s nuts the entire fight; “That flexability wow!” “REALLY heavy hands” “You dont see that everyday” “Hes hard to prepare for” “From what ive heard BJ has trained hare for this fight” “He has an oppertunity here to establish a legacy” LoL If Sherk thinks he can really beat BJ then what op is he talking about to start a legacy, I mean, if Sherks gonna beat BJ then what kind of one win fluke legacy would BJ be starting . . . Sherk knows BJ will walk through him and has basically said it in everyway he can without actually saying “BJ can and will kick my *ss if we ever got into the cage together”

[quote comment=”275587″]Exactly! Let the trash talking begin.

First of all, BJ has shown once again why he’s a threat to both, the lightweight and welterweight divisions. Cardio may be a factor due to his performance during the GSP and Hughes fights. However, BJ managed to refocus, and is determine to demolish both weight classes. So far, he showed no mercy when fighting Pulver and Stevenson, impressing the judges and fans with his takedown defense, and illest jiu-jitsu talent. By far, BJ Penn will be on the top of his game for a long period of time.

Sherk on the other hand, is a mirrored reflection of matt hughes, but posseses extreme cardio. He showed everyone that he is at the top of the lightweight chain, but has never fought anyone close to BJ’s upper level skills than most jiu-jitsu fighters. (people don’t realize that when “rolling” with BJ Penn, his legs are like arms, or more like tentacles of an octupus!) This will definitely fustrate Sherk throughout the rounds, and eventually giving PENN either his upper or lower limbs. Better yet, givin’ up his back! haha.

I see this fight with BJ, submmitting Sherk in the late 2nd round due to a rear naked choke.

99.9%, all these trash talkers towards PENN will be hoppin’ on the f*uckin’ bandwagon after this fight… SUCKERS![/quote]

I have been saying it for a while now, that BJ arm like legs will help him beat Sherk via rear naked choke no later then round 2! Bet my house on it!

And for all you guys saying “BJ lookied tired at the start of the second round” Watch it again, and listen to BJ’s corner telling BJ to “Let him go” They were telling BJ to let Joe wear himself down or atleast drop back down from the obvious adrenalin rush he had going on because of the urgency from the cut. So BJ outstrck Joe for a couple minutes then when he could see that Joe was no longer prancing around the ring and had settled back down RIGHT HOOK, TAKE DOWN, GROUND AND POUND, TRANSITION TO BACK SIDE, AND THE RNC!! ANd BJ doesnt lke to let guys just roll to give up there backs, he punches them ’til they turn back over then punches them ’til they turn back over and punched them ’til they turn back over again, then he looks to finish! He like to punish and make sure that you know you just got your *ss kicked BJ’s bottom line to all opponents “Dont come back, ever!”

[quote comment=”275699″][quote comment=”275690″][quote comment=”275570″][quote comment=”275522″]I love the theme music Penn has chosen to ride out his reign on. (Hawaii 78/E Ala E BY Israel Kamakawiwo’ole) I used to love watching Penn storm towards the cage like he use to do but now i like the calm, confident, “Im the best”, bad ass way he enters the octagon, he looks like a warrior walking to a warriors Soundtrack. BAD ASS!!![/quote]

They should have played that song after finishing Joe while still in the ring…Kind of like how Pride did after the main events had ended…It would have been a real cool moment…That song is dope, it like the calm before the storm,,,,its up there with the Fedor song.

Anyone know the names and the singers of Fedor and BJ
’s entry songs?[/quote]
Hey JOHN Penn’s entrance song is done by “big IZ”, or just “IZ”, any one of those keywords should bring him up. He’s the same guy that does that Hawaii’n over the rainbow, he’s dead now and i get teh impression he is to Hawaii’n music, as Tupac and BIG are to rap.[/quote]
I answered that question in my second sentence : The songs Hawaii 78 (First 20 seconds) Then it goes into a song called E Ala E, both by a Hawaiian singer named Israel Kamakawiwo’ole Or Bruddah IZ. As far as BJs goes. I dont know Fedors . . .[/quote]

Thanks

[quote comment=”275641″]JOHn i totally agree of what u mention i think bj was so happy that he accomplished what he wanted to so badly the belt.[/quote]

exactly I mean give the guy a break, can u not show emotion, should he not breathe to look tougher to the hater fans? I mean come on with all the nit picking, the guy just won the title that he spent his whole career chasing, can u say overwhelmed with emotion!

[quote comment=”275721″]Im stoked for the couple months of sh8t talking we all get to do with each other! Bring it, bring on the reasoning and arguements ’til that UFC 85 theme music starts on our “set to record” on demand and other cable boxes!!
And do we all agree that Joe Rogan knows his sh*t MMA wise??? Cause for all you shirk fans, i would have to say Joe thinks pretty highly of BJ. Why would that be if BJ isnt as good as the “hype” Could it be because its not “hype” its fact?? And Sherk was on BJ’s nuts the entire fight; “That flexability wow!” “REALLY heavy hands” “You dont see that everyday” “Hes hard to prepare for” “From what ive heard BJ has trained hare for this fight” “He has an oppertunity here to establish a legacy” LoL If Sherk thinks he can really beat BJ then what op is he talking about to start a legacy, I mean, if Sherks gonna beat BJ then what kind of one win fluke legacy would BJ be starting . . . Sherk knows BJ will walk through him and has basically said it in everyway he can without actually saying “BJ can and will kick my *ss if we ever got into the cage together”[/quote]
LOL this sounds like penn, ya sherk is complimentary towards sherk, he would look stupid if he trashed him as a commentator. He just spoke the truth, penn has extremely good flexibility and he is hard to train for… good luck finding a training partner as flexible. I don’t agree sherk thinks penn will smoke him, thats crazy talk. I’m pretty sure he knows he’ll be a tough fight but I’m sure he thinks he’s going win.
I personally think penn should win, but to say sherk has no chance is just dumb, this is an unpredictable sport. Yes penn is more skilled than sherk but I guarantee sherk will be faster,stronger and have better cardio. I don’t agree that stevenson is just like sherk, I definitely would but my money on sherk, stevenson is good but sherk is better, I think in every way. I see this fight being more like 60/40 in penns favor not 99/1 like a lot on this page seem to think.

[quote comment=”275762″][quote comment=”275641″]JOHn i totally agree of what u mention i think bj was so happy that he accomplished what he wanted to so badly the belt.[/quote]

exactly I mean give the guy a break, can u not show emotion, should he not breathe to look tougher to the hater fans? I mean come on with all the nit picking, the guy just won the title that he spent his whole career chasing, can u say overwhelmed with emotion![/quote]
Yea, let the guy be himself! He doesnt care about YOUR perception of him anymore, He comes in wearing some tied tight adidas running shoes like a gym rat always ready to go, i love it!! Back in the day BJ would try to appear tuff (doesnt really need to try) by running to the ring, “just scrap” now hes a professional and a professional at being a rpofessional. “Sherk your dead” = fight promo HELLO! The real BJ went in and shook Sherks hand and showed respect to the octagon.

[quote comment=”275751″][quote comment=”275587″]Exactly! Let the trash talking begin.

First of all, BJ has shown once again why he’s a threat to both, the lightweight and welterweight divisions. Cardio may be a factor due to his performance during the GSP and Hughes fights. However, BJ managed to refocus, and is determine to demolish both weight classes. So far, he showed no mercy when fighting Pulver and Stevenson, impressing the judges and fans with his takedown defense, and illest jiu-jitsu talent. By far, BJ Penn will be on the top of his game for a long period of time.

Sherk on the other hand, is a mirrored reflection of matt hughes, but posseses extreme cardio. He showed everyone that he is at the top of the lightweight chain, but has never fought anyone close to BJ’s upper level skills than most jiu-jitsu fighters. (people don’t realize that when “rolling” with BJ Penn, his legs are like arms, or more like tentacles of an octupus!) This will definitely fustrate Sherk throughout the rounds, and eventually giving PENN either his upper or lower limbs. Better yet, givin’ up his back! haha.

I see this fight with BJ, submmitting Sherk in the late 2nd round due to a rear naked choke.

99.9%, all these trash talkers towards PENN will be hoppin’ on the f*uckin’ bandwagon after this fight… SUCKERS![/quote]

I have been saying it for a while now, that BJ arm like legs will help him beat Sherk via rear naked choke no later then round 2! Bet my house on it![/quote]
John how big or expensive is your house?

I’ve made the “bet my house” comment in the past, I wouldn’t any more, I’ve seen too many upsets, I like my house.

[quote comment=”275767″][quote comment=”275721″]Im stoked for the couple months of sh8t talking we all get to do with each other! Bring it, bring on the reasoning and arguements ’til that UFC 85 theme music starts on our “set to record” on demand and other cable boxes!!
And do we all agree that Joe Rogan knows his sh*t MMA wise??? Cause for all you shirk fans, i would have to say Joe thinks pretty highly of BJ. Why would that be if BJ isnt as good as the “hype” Could it be because its not “hype” its fact?? And Sherk was on BJ’s nuts the entire fight; “That flexability wow!” “REALLY heavy hands” “You dont see that everyday” “Hes hard to prepare for” “From what ive heard BJ has trained hare for this fight” “He has an oppertunity here to establish a legacy” LoL If Sherk thinks he can really beat BJ then what op is he talking about to start a legacy, I mean, if Sherks gonna beat BJ then what kind of one win fluke legacy would BJ be starting . . . Sherk knows BJ will walk through him and has basically said it in everyway he can without actually say