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	<title>Comments on: UFC 84: Mac Danzig vs. Mark Bocek</title>
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		<title>By: suspiria</title>
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		<dc:creator>suspiria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danzig is such a tool.go f**k yaself a-hole I love eating meat!</description>
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		<title>By: SaVaGe</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaVaGe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267910&quot;][quote post=&quot;4527&quot;]Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#039;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. [/quote]

WHAT????  Did I read that correctly?

&quot;Danzig isn&#039;t the striker that Edgar is.&quot;

Mac is a MUCH better striker than Frankie Edgar in my opinion.  Frankie is a great fighter, but he will be the first to admit, that he is still primarily a wrestler, that is learning MMA.  Where as Mac Danzig is a well rounded fighter, and always has been (his bjj MIGHT be the best part of his game).  If rules were set and the fight HAD to stay standing, I would take Mac Danzig over Frankie Edgar about 9 out of 10 times.[/quote]

VM, if you watch the Edgar/Bocek fight you will see that Edgar controlled and pretty much setup the ground game with strikes standing.  While I agree Danzig is a better rounded fighter, he uses standup to close, clinch and takedown. I disagree with the idea that if the fight HAD to stay standing Danzig wins 9 of 10 and IMO in a UFC fight, I will take Frankie to handle Danzig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="267910"][quote post="4527"]Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#8217;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. [/quote]</p>
<p>WHAT????  Did I read that correctly?</p>
<p>&#8220;Danzig isn&#8217;t the striker that Edgar is.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mac is a MUCH better striker than Frankie Edgar in my opinion.  Frankie is a great fighter, but he will be the first to admit, that he is still primarily a wrestler, that is learning MMA.  Where as Mac Danzig is a well rounded fighter, and always has been (his bjj MIGHT be the best part of his game).  If rules were set and the fight HAD to stay standing, I would take Mac Danzig over Frankie Edgar about 9 out of 10 times.[/quote]</p>
<p>VM, if you watch the Edgar/Bocek fight you will see that Edgar controlled and pretty much setup the ground game with strikes standing.  While I agree Danzig is a better rounded fighter, he uses standup to close, clinch and takedown. I disagree with the idea that if the fight HAD to stay standing Danzig wins 9 of 10 and IMO in a UFC fight, I will take Frankie to handle Danzig.</p>
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		<title>By: James Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bocek should enter the ring with a fur coat made of kittens and puppies while licking a raw steak. THAT ought to make Danzig mad enough to throw him off his game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bocek should enter the ring with a fur coat made of kittens and puppies while licking a raw steak. THAT ought to make Danzig mad enough to throw him off his game.</p>
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		<title>By: ViolentMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ViolentMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post=&quot;4527&quot;]Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#039;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. [/quote]

WHAT????  Did I read that correctly?  

&quot;Danzig isn&#039;t the striker that Edgar is.&quot;   

Mac is a MUCH better striker than Frankie Edgar in my opinion.  Frankie is a great fighter, but he will be the first to admit, that he is still primarily a wrestler, that is learning MMA.  Where as Mac Danzig is a well rounded fighter, and always has been (his bjj MIGHT be the best part of his game).  If rules were set and the fight HAD to stay standing, I would take Mac Danzig over Frankie Edgar about 9 out of 10 times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote post="4527"]Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#8217;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. [/quote]</p>
<p>WHAT????  Did I read that correctly?  </p>
<p>&#8220;Danzig isn&#8217;t the striker that Edgar is.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Mac is a MUCH better striker than Frankie Edgar in my opinion.  Frankie is a great fighter, but he will be the first to admit, that he is still primarily a wrestler, that is learning MMA.  Where as Mac Danzig is a well rounded fighter, and always has been (his bjj MIGHT be the best part of his game).  If rules were set and the fight HAD to stay standing, I would take Mac Danzig over Frankie Edgar about 9 out of 10 times.</p>
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		<title>By: Holmz76</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holmz76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about they look like twins...?</description>
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		<title>By: elw 215</title>
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		<dc:creator>elw 215</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please shut 
danzig  up</description>
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danzig  up</p>
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		<title>By: KingCreep</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingCreep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man this has some potential to be a good fight, i had my fingers crossed for stout/danzig but this will have to do, even hominick would have been nice but i can still see this being an entertaining one for us canucks. im getting at least 5 tickets as close as i can once this one&#039;s on sale, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man this has some potential to be a good fight, i had my fingers crossed for stout/danzig but this will have to do, even hominick would have been nice but i can still see this being an entertaining one for us canucks. im getting at least 5 tickets as close as i can once this one&#8217;s on sale, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: SaVaGe</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaVaGe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;266702&quot;]May as well let Mac fight Hightower....same garbage.  Bocek stands no chance....none.
NEXT for Mac?
smaller names.....how about Diaz? Gamburyan? Clementi?
Cannot throw Mac to the big wolves yet..[/quote]

What? I think Clementi would be a good fight for Mac.

[quote comment=&quot;266706&quot;]THE UFC MIGHT BE TRYING TO BUILD HIS CONFIDENCE UP AND GIVE HIM CANS HIS FIRST FEW FIGHTS![/quote]

Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#039;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. 

[quote post=&quot;4527&quot;]I agree Bocek is a good opponent for his first fight. If Danzig does well I expect the UFC to start throwing some animals at him! No pun intended. Still Mac takes this one [/quote]

I agree here.  Good 1st test for Danzig and a bit of a chance for redemption for Bocek.  I think Mac takes it by sub late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="266702"]May as well let Mac fight Hightower&#8230;.same garbage.  Bocek stands no chance&#8230;.none.<br />
NEXT for Mac?<br />
smaller names&#8230;..how about Diaz? Gamburyan? Clementi?<br />
Cannot throw Mac to the big wolves yet..[/quote]</p>
<p>What? I think Clementi would be a good fight for Mac.</p>
<p>[quote comment="266706"]THE UFC MIGHT BE TRYING TO BUILD HIS CONFIDENCE UP AND GIVE HIM CANS HIS FIRST FEW FIGHTS![/quote]</p>
<p>Can? Bocek did not look good vs Edgar, but looked good against Evans. Danzig isn&#8217;t the striker that Edgar is. I see it somewhere in between the Edgar and Evans fights. </p>
<p>[quote post="4527"]I agree Bocek is a good opponent for his first fight. If Danzig does well I expect the UFC to start throwing some animals at him! No pun intended. Still Mac takes this one [/quote]</p>
<p>I agree here.  Good 1st test for Danzig and a bit of a chance for redemption for Bocek.  I think Mac takes it by sub late.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this fight isn&#039;t signed yet, Danzig&#039;s camp is confirming it - Bocek says nothing is confirmed yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this fight isn&#8217;t signed yet, Danzig&#8217;s camp is confirming it &#8211; Bocek says nothing is confirmed yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenny Florian talks about the Joe Lauzon fight...shares his thoughts on Penn-Stevenson

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content1681.html

&quot;I think Joe Lauzon is a great fighter. He&#039;s come a long way and he&#039;s improving all of the time. I&#039;ve been watching him since he was a kid in the grappling competitions. It&#039;s cool to see him rise the way he&#039;s risen, but I knew, for some reason, we were going to have to face each other at some point. I didn&#039;t think it would be this early. I&#039;m going to be ready and I&#039;ve been training hard all of the time. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s going to be training hard. He&#039;s been training with BJ. A lot of people see him as a possible champ down the line in the future and I know I&#039;m going to have my hands full. He&#039;s not an opponent that I&#039;m going to take lightly. He&#039;s beaten Jens Pulver, he beat another guy at a local fight here and he beat Mike Brown, who he wasn&#039;t supposed to beat. I&#039;m not going to take him lightly, that&#039;s for sure. I&#039;m going to be ready to fight and I&#039;m going to be ready for a war.&quot;

&quot;Yeah man! I&#039;m ready to use it all when I have to. I can show, once again, a little bit of a different side again and I&#039;m going to be ready to unload and do what I have to do to get the job done against Joe. Regardless of how long the fight lasts, I think it&#039;s going to be a scrap. We&#039;re both going to be trying to get positions and get the better of the stand-up. It&#039;s going to be a war. Every second that fight lasts, it&#039;s going to be a war. The style he has, the style I have, we both don&#039;t like giving up an inch. We&#039;re both aggressive and technical fighters. I think it&#039;s going to be a great fight.&quot;

&quot;That&#039;s always been my mentality since the first time I started doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. That has always been my motto, even competing back then; finish the fight, finish the fight! I think that the true measure of a champion, of a fighter and a mixed martial artist, is to have the ability to finish. You look back at the Samurai culture or any type of war culture...it wasn&#039;t how many stabs you got on the other guy or a referee comes in and says you stabbed him more times than he stabbed you or you shot him more times than he shot you so this guy won; no, it&#039;s either you kill him or he killed you. I think that&#039;s the purity of combat and the ultimate of combat and I think that&#039;s what I look to do every single fight and I think Joe Lauzon knows that as well and he fights that way too. Someone is getting finished in this fight, that&#039;s for sure.&quot;

&quot;Everyone looks at BJ&#039;s talent and what he could do on the mat with his hands, his wrestling ability and his balance, but we&#039;ve seen it before. The best fighter doesn&#039;t always win, especially in mixed martial arts. Anything can happen and BJ has had some problems in the past with his cardio. I don&#039;t think it will be a problem this time around, but you never know. That fight could potentially start in the 3rd round. If Joe Stevenson can weather those first 2 rounds, he can come back strong and steal it in the 3rd, 4th and 5th, a lot like Jens Pulver did way back when, but I think BJ is a monster right now and you do have to give him an edge, but by no means is Joe &quot;Daddy&quot; out of this at all. He&#039;s in the best shape of his life and he&#039;s been training for a while now. He&#039;s been in Big Bear taking this very seriously so you won&#039;t see me bet on that fight for anyone.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenny Florian talks about the Joe Lauzon fight&#8230;shares his thoughts on Penn-Stevenson</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content1681.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content1681.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;I think Joe Lauzon is a great fighter. He&#8217;s come a long way and he&#8217;s improving all of the time. I&#8217;ve been watching him since he was a kid in the grappling competitions. It&#8217;s cool to see him rise the way he&#8217;s risen, but I knew, for some reason, we were going to have to face each other at some point. I didn&#8217;t think it would be this early. I&#8217;m going to be ready and I&#8217;ve been training hard all of the time. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s going to be training hard. He&#8217;s been training with BJ. A lot of people see him as a possible champ down the line in the future and I know I&#8217;m going to have my hands full. He&#8217;s not an opponent that I&#8217;m going to take lightly. He&#8217;s beaten Jens Pulver, he beat another guy at a local fight here and he beat Mike Brown, who he wasn&#8217;t supposed to beat. I&#8217;m not going to take him lightly, that&#8217;s for sure. I&#8217;m going to be ready to fight and I&#8217;m going to be ready for a war.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah man! I&#8217;m ready to use it all when I have to. I can show, once again, a little bit of a different side again and I&#8217;m going to be ready to unload and do what I have to do to get the job done against Joe. Regardless of how long the fight lasts, I think it&#8217;s going to be a scrap. We&#8217;re both going to be trying to get positions and get the better of the stand-up. It&#8217;s going to be a war. Every second that fight lasts, it&#8217;s going to be a war. The style he has, the style I have, we both don&#8217;t like giving up an inch. We&#8217;re both aggressive and technical fighters. I think it&#8217;s going to be a great fight.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s always been my mentality since the first time I started doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. That has always been my motto, even competing back then; finish the fight, finish the fight! I think that the true measure of a champion, of a fighter and a mixed martial artist, is to have the ability to finish. You look back at the Samurai culture or any type of war culture&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t how many stabs you got on the other guy or a referee comes in and says you stabbed him more times than he stabbed you or you shot him more times than he shot you so this guy won; no, it&#8217;s either you kill him or he killed you. I think that&#8217;s the purity of combat and the ultimate of combat and I think that&#8217;s what I look to do every single fight and I think Joe Lauzon knows that as well and he fights that way too. Someone is getting finished in this fight, that&#8217;s for sure.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone looks at BJ&#8217;s talent and what he could do on the mat with his hands, his wrestling ability and his balance, but we&#8217;ve seen it before. The best fighter doesn&#8217;t always win, especially in mixed martial arts. Anything can happen and BJ has had some problems in the past with his cardio. I don&#8217;t think it will be a problem this time around, but you never know. That fight could potentially start in the 3rd round. If Joe Stevenson can weather those first 2 rounds, he can come back strong and steal it in the 3rd, 4th and 5th, a lot like Jens Pulver did way back when, but I think BJ is a monster right now and you do have to give him an edge, but by no means is Joe &#8220;Daddy&#8221; out of this at all. He&#8217;s in the best shape of his life and he&#8217;s been training for a while now. He&#8217;s been in Big Bear taking this very seriously so you won&#8217;t see me bet on that fight for anyone.&#8221;</p>
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