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“My thumb got caught and pulled back like a banana…. I held my breath and pulled it real hard and it didn’t go back in. I finished the first round, went back to my coaches, who were like ‘(expletive) your left hand, you don’t need it! Use your right hand.’ I was like cool, I won’t use my left hand…. I wanted to punch Tim so hard. I should have just kept touching and moving, instead of trying to light him up early. He started hitting me; I couldn’t hit him back. I started throwing short elbows to try and catch him on his way in. I sucked. That was one of the most boring fights ever. I’m ashamed to have been a part of it.”
Brandon Vera talks about his unanimous decision loss to Tim Sylvia at UFC 77: “Hostile Territory” in October 2007, during which he broke a bone in his hand. “The Maine-iac” is now set to challenge Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for the interim heavyweight title at UFC 81: “Breaking Point” on February 2. “The Truth” is still on the mend and will be unable to return until May at the earliest.
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yes that what a bad fight really boring i was pissed at that ufc tim sylivia is a boring fighter to watch i still dont know if im going to rent 81 or not i hate his fights i hope vera can bounce back and have an exiting fight with someone else maybe he can fight the winner of lesner and mir
Matt you are so true, I also was so disappointed in Vera. I thought that he would totally dominate Tim with his leg kicks, but they didn’t come and then Tim was moving in and man that fight just sucked. The only reason I am going to get UFC 81 is to watch NOG totally woop up on Tim.
While I think Tim is a legit HW. I pray that Big Nog wins…it bring a breath of fresh air to the HW division and set up some interesting matchups..
I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.
they both suck….dont make excuses now brandon !
At least Vera shows some contrition for his horrible fights. Sylvia has no remorse.
[quote comment=”262870″]At least Vera shows some contrition for his horrible fights. Sylvia has no remorse.[/quote]
LOL
Vera should train full time in Big Bear with Juanito Ibarra. Vera’s right though, he has to climb the ladder. Start him off with Eddie Sanchez.
Sylvia has gone on record to say that he is there to win by points he does not care what the fans think. he thinks all we want is blood when all we want is a good fight or ko the HW divison is nothing without couture
He should be ashamed, He was the one that made the fight boring. Now he has the excuse that his thumb was hurt, thats bullshit. Where were his leg kicks and the other hand, and why didn’t he do anything when he got him to the ground. Face it people he’s not the fighter he made himself out to be. But he can be.
PhilQNY - I agree that ring rust may have played a part. Brandon is a very talented and dedicated fighter - it will be very interesting to see what happens ‘when he turns the corner’. I think his next matchup may determine his drop to LHW or not. Brandon isn’t making excuses - he’s stating facts about what happened during the fight and I find it interesting to get that perspective from the fighter. He stated “I sucked” - what more do want from a guy? Vera doesn’t want to be involved in fights like that - so he’s putting it out there. To say they both suck is an ignorant statement. I say Vera’s next fight heats up the HW division.
neither tim or brandon suck. tim is like a smart heavy weight boxer. jab, jab hug hug hug haymaker. boring fight but effective. brandon got some bad luck and i am willing to give him a pass w/a more typical vera performance next time out. heavyweight just isn’t that exciting in general. typically the fighers are one dimensional, slow and will gas quickly. what exactly are you expecting though. that is why dana needs to work something out w/randy and fedor b/c the heavyweight division has a real drop off after those names are thrown out.
Vera needs to lose the gut and drop down to Light Heavyweight. No excuses,
Like to see Brandon move down to LHW. His showing against Mir was great, but I doubt he’d pull it off a second time now that Mir is back to fighting form. At LHW, I think Vera could clean up. Like to see a Vera vs. Machida fight.
[quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).
errors “FRANKLIN” & “KEPT”, when the coaches told him forget about ur left hand use ur right im sure they didnt mean put it behind ur back and get ur ass kicked by a slower fighter, but Vera i guess got hurt for the first time in a fight and didnt know how to cope with it, he is good but if his next fight he gets rocked bad and cant recover properly or gives up on himself thats a waist of talent
[quote comment=”262881″]neither tim or brandon suck. tim is like a smart heavy weight boxer. jab, jab hug hug hug haymaker. boring fight but effective. brandon got some bad luck and i am willing to give him a pass w/a more typical vera performance next time out. heavyweight just isn’t that exciting in general. typically the fighers are one dimensional, slow and will gas quickly. what exactly are you expecting though. that is why dana needs to work something out w/randy and fedor b/c the heavyweight division has a real drop off after those names are thrown out.[/quote]
15 responses and this is the only one that says tim doesn’t suck. Well, I guess there are people out there that think britney spears is a good mother too.
EXCUSES, EXCUSES Vera. Maybe you broke your hand over Tim’s hard head. Credit Tim’s hard head not you lack luster loss!
Who says they hope Nogueira win? The way he looked like with Heath, the mofo will only get us deeper into DEPRESSION.
He thought a hyperextended thumb is a broken hand? BS BS BS. vera is an A class fighter when he fights fish like Cherner and Eilers.
[quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
Good points..in Vera’s case and as much as I’m not a big Tim fan..he is 6′8 and cuts down to 260..tuf to takedown and striking..is no easy task to scrap with him..before I question Vera’s heart I will have to see him fight again. See how he responds when he is the nail and not the hammer.
[quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
Boring or not, Tim gets the job done, that’s why he’s a 2-time HW champ, and thats why he’ll be the champ again.
I cant wait for this guys return. He has the best muai thai in the hw division. Also if you watch the fight he didnt listen to his corner at all. THey were telling him to throw leg kicks galore which if he did he could have very easily won that fight. He even apologized to his corner for not listning.I cant wait to see him back in the mix.
[quote comment=”262907″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
Boring or not, Tim gets the job done, that’s why he’s a 2-time HW champ, and thats why he’ll be the champ again.[/quote]
Tim is not walk in the park..but for him to fight Big Nog is not walk in the park either..Big Nog is really crafty on his back in mma and fights good against bigger and longer fighter’s such as a Tim Slyvia..I don’t think he win beat Nog..now mma is mma..expect the unexpected..Him being Champ is no sure thing..on a personal note..I don’t want him to be the ufc hw champ..he is not a great fighter..or a hall of famer IMO..to see title fights with Tim as champ would suck for the sport.
Why do some of you think Vera is making excuses? He said he sucked. I’ve never heard anyone in MMA say that about them self after a loss.
[quote comment=”262902″][quote comment=”262881″]neither tim or brandon suck. tim is like a smart heavy weight boxer. jab, jab hug hug hug haymaker. boring fight but effective. brandon got some bad luck and i am willing to give him a pass w/a more typical vera performance next time out. heavyweight just isn’t that exciting in general. typically the fighers are one dimensional, slow and will gas quickly. what exactly are you expecting though. that is why dana needs to work something out w/randy and fedor b/c the heavyweight division has a real drop off after those names are thrown out.[/quote]
15 responses and this is the only one that says tim doesn’t suck. Well, I guess there are people out there that think britney spears is a good mother too.[/quote]
bro, I said neither sucked…cheers
I waiting so long to see this match up. When it was announced I actually bought a plane ticket to Cincy to see it. Saying it was “boring” is an understatement. Maybe it would have turned out differently if Vera didn’t screw up his hand. Rematch?
vera looks great against mid tier fighters he needs to beat some of the tougher comp. to be consider a great fighter yet.i think he can do it but he did not prove it against tim.as for mir i don’t think he could ever beat vera and nog will beat tim.
[quote comment=”262870″]At least Vera shows some contrition for his horrible fights. Sylvia has no remorse.[/quote]
sylvia was very apologetic to the crowd after the fight with vera, your just another douchebag that hates on sylvia!
Vera is one of the most talented heavyweight fighters in the world. But tim aint no slouch either. no one really matches up well against tim due to his size and strength. If vera dropped down to light heavyweight he’d be a much bigger threat. I’d love to see him beat down tito..
Cuz your not that good Vera. I’d be willing to bet he looses to another top contender…Just feed this guy old TUF cast offs that’s all I see him beating in the near future. Throw him Chuck like he asked for, and would love to see his face get bashed in.
[quote comment=”262870″]At least Vera shows some contrition for his horrible fights. Sylvia has no remorse.[/quote]
Very true! That was a stand up move by Verra to admit that it was a horrible fight. Tim has headlined about 5 major events, put on the most boring performances ever and not once appologized to us Fans for wasting our $40. I think people hate sylvia so much because ha has the physical advantage over everyone he fights. He was blessed with all the tools to be an exciting fighter. There aren’t too many boring stand up fighters out there, but leave it to Tim to be the one. He used to be good. He was a KO machine and people did fear him. Having the title ruined him because since then he has been fighting not too loose and thats why everyone HATES him. To be such a skilled striker, have the height, reach, and weight advantage over everyone that he has ever faced and to put on those boring ass performances is inexcusable…. I pray Noguerra rips his arm off!
[quote comment=”262938″][quote comment=”262870″]At least Vera shows some contrition for his horrible fights. Sylvia has no remorse.[/quote]
sylvia was very apologetic to the crowd after the fight with vera, your just another douchebag that hates on sylvia![/quote]
This is all Tim ever does since he stopped roiding. He leans on smaller opponents and tries to hump and hug his way to decisions. If he would just be up front and honest about it and tell everyone he has no real interest in engaging an opposing fighter and that he’s going to use the only “skill” he has, which is being taller and heavier than everyone he fights, then that would be OK. But he doesn’t. He stands up at every pre-fight press conference thumping his chest, running his mouth that I’m a dominant HW, I’m going to knock his ass out, blah blah blah. Well I call bullshit on you Big Poopy. You want people to take you seriously as a fighter, then fight to win instead of fighting not to lose.
Verra said he will return to the Octagon in May!
John, I think we just posted the exact same thing at the same time.
I’m a fan of Vera but that fight was so boring. i was fast forwarding it on my Tivo because he was in the clinch the whole fight. In Vera’s pre-fight interview, he was like ” in the first round, i’m going to use all hands, in the second round, i’m going to use all hands and feet and in the 3rd round i’m going to use all legs” So what happen to that theory…i guess it shot out the window when he broke his finger. I was totally expecting him to stand his distance and unload and kicks and punches ….
oh well
[quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
what if your hand is so much in pain,& even you have a big heart but the level of pain is cant be handle? all fighter have their limit no matter how big their hear is
Vera is one of my favorite fighters and I can understand him having to hold back throwing punches and stuff with the injury but the bottom line is:
True champions fight through the pain and ignore it!!! W
e’ve seen a countless amount of fighters suffer injuries in fights (ex. Cotoure vs. Gonzaga) and still continue to not only fight, but win.
[quote comment=”262886″]Vera needs to lose the gut and drop down to Light Heavyweight. No excuses,[/quote]
Yeah, his staying up in that division kind of seems BJ-Penn-like. Everyone has skill these days and he needs to be realistic about his size and frame. I think he would have a legitimate shot at a title at light-heavyweight. THen again, we need more talent in the heavyweight division. That’s where all of boxing’s biggest stars have been. Well, most anyway.
It’s funny, all you bloggers talking smack about “no excuses”. Like breaking you hand is no big deal, come on! A broken hand would incapacitate most people! Hitting someone with one is a totally different story.
[quote comment=”262906″][quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
Good points..in Vera’s case and as much as I’m not a big Tim fan..he is 6′8 and cuts down to 260..tuf to takedown and striking..is no easy task to scrap with him..before I question Vera’s heart I will have to see him fight again. See how he responds when he is the nail and not the hammer.[/quote]
PhilQNY: I would have to agree. Tim’s size gives people fits, so we really can’t asses Verra since he was the smallest Heavyweight(by far) matched up with the Biggest. As a fighter, I see lots of potential in the Truth, however I am not yet sold that he should be fighting in the Heavyweight division. I am not saying that he cant be a great Heavyweight, but we just don’t know yet. I would like to see Verra’ next fight to be against either Arlovski, or Cro cop. Once I see how he does against heavyweights of that Caliber, then we could better asses whether he should be in the 205 lb or HW division.
If it doesn’t work out at Heavyweight, I am sure he can be a MONSTER at 205. Could you imagine the possibly match ups in the already ELITE Light Heavyweight division of the UFC when you throw the Truth in the mix?
[quote comment=”263024″]It’s funny, all you bloggers talking smack about “no excuses”. Like breaking you hand is no big deal, come on! A broken hand would incapacitate most people! Hitting someone with one is a totally different story.[/quote]
I played 80 minutes of rugby on a broken foot to keep our team from losing by forfeit, and rugby is just a hobby for me, albeit one I am rather passionate about. I think a professional fighter should be able to suck it up and fight 10 minutes with a broken hand.
[quote post=”4489″]sylvia was very apologetic to the crowd after the fight with vera, your just another douchebag that hates on sylvia! [/quote]
Tell me why you actually like Tim Sylvia? I don’t dislike people just for the fun of it. Sylvia has the physical attributes to dominate the heavyweight division if he utilized a little technique. Instead, he uses his gargantuan frame to squeak out decisions. I’m not one to bitch about lay n’ pray either. I like the way Sean Sherk fights. I appreciate Sherk’s conditioning and incredible wrestling. I can’t say that about Sylvia. Sylvia is boring when he shouldn’t have to be, and on top of that, he’s kind of an a-hole.
I don’t think he’s all that apologetic about it either. After his crappy performance against Couture, he blamed it on an injury.
i actually think Brandon made the fight boring, not Tim. yes, i know his hand was broken.
[quote comment=”263034″][quote comment=”262906″][quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
Good points..in Vera’s case and as much as I’m not a big Tim fan..he is 6′8 and cuts down to 260..tuf to takedown and striking..is no easy task to scrap with him..before I question Vera’s heart I will have to see him fight again. See how he responds when he is the nail and not the hammer.[/quote]
PhilQNY: I would have to agree. Tim’s size gives people fits, so we really can’t asses Verra since he was the smallest Heavyweight(by far) matched up with the Biggest. As a fighter, I see lots of potential in the Truth, however I am not yet sold that he should be fighting in the Heavyweight division. I am not saying that he cant be a great Heavyweight, but we just don’t know yet. I would like to see Verra’ next fight to be against either Arlovski, or Cro cop. Once I see how he does against heavyweights of that Caliber, then we could better asses whether he should be in the 205 lb or HW division.
If it doesn’t work out at Heavyweight, I am sure he can be a MONSTER at 205. Could you imagine the possibly match ups in the already ELITE Light Heavyweight division of the UFC when you throw the Truth in the mix?[/quote]
Yes Sir..Vera would be a force in the LHW division..he did call out Chuck..when Chuck reigned Supreme on top of the lhw division.. Chuck Lidell vs Brandon Vera???
i remember that fight, and i remember his trainers saying, forgetabout your left hand punch him with your right. i thought he did an okay job for fighting with one hand. plus i thought tim did a good job of almost finishing him off at the end. that fight didnt piss me off as much as the entire ufc 78 card.
[quote comment=”263024″]It’s funny, all you bloggers talking smack about “no excuses”. Like breaking you hand is no big deal, come on! A broken hand would incapacitate most people! Hitting someone with one is a totally different story.[/quote]
Read the article right, he said he messed up his thumb. He’s just not as good as he thought he was. Put him in with Arlovski, Gonzaga, Congo, Cro-cop, Couture, or even Sylva and the out come will still be the same (more excuses)
I didn’t see the fight, but most of Sylvias fights are boring. I hope NOG does whip his ass real good. I love watching fights with him, so I can see him lose.
IMO, Tim Sylvia is just bad for the sport. I used to be a fan, that was until Sylvia vs Arlovsky 1-3. Ever since that crappy saga Sylvia has done nothing in the cage except try not to lose. Whats worse … he is infecting the other heavyweights! Just look at Arlovsky post Sylva vs Arlovsky 2! He used to be a Monster! We haven’t seen a good fight out of him in years.
Vera … I hope you took your antibiotics after your fight with Sylvia … We don’t need any more mamby pambys in the heavyweight division.
-ZL
Yea that was a boring as hell, vera definetly show some ring rust.and tims hands started to pick up there towards the end.
Props to brandon for admitting it. Tim on the other hand, ALWAYS has boring fights and never admits it. Brandons other fights have been good.
[quote comment=”262991″]I’m a fan of Vera but that fight was so boring. i was fast forwarding it on my Tivo because he was in the clinch the whole fight.
This is funny, when I’m watching boring fight replays I watch them at 1.5 speed on my ps3 and in most cases it only brings the fight to a normal speed
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I am NOT a Silvia fan, but of his last eight wins he’s had 4 (t)ko’s so he could be worse to watch, no really its true. But I think we should let him and lesnar and Sapp battle it out in a steroid league.
[quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
it’s impossible to compare injuries since the severity of the injuries would have to be known for anyone to make any assessment or comparison as to who has more “heart”.
Sweet to see Vera drop to LHW and take on an elite 205 guy straight away - you cant beat Vera V Wandy fight…one big bloody mess…..SWEET!!!
[quote comment=”262902″][quote comment=”262881″]neither tim or brandon suck. tim is like a smart heavy weight boxer. jab, jab hug hug hug haymaker. boring fight but effective. brandon got some bad luck and i am willing to give him a pass w/a more typical vera performance next time out. heavyweight just isn’t that exciting in general. typically the fighers are one dimensional, slow and will gas quickly. what exactly are you expecting though. that is why dana needs to work something out w/randy and fedor b/c the heavyweight division has a real drop off after those names are thrown out.[/quote]
15 responses and this is the only one that says tim doesn’t suck. Well, I guess there are people out there that think britney spears is a good mother too.[/quote]
Tim cant suck that bad he held the belt for a while and is still a threat to anyone in that division. He would prove a tuff fight for anyone. Does it suck to pay $40 and have him on the card, probably but his skill set is his skill set. He is no different then these lay and pray wet towels that get credit, only in a stand up form. Henderson, Couture, Linland, all fight his game. Dirtybox, jab jab, kick is Tims plans were the others end with takedowns. At least Tim will go in their and bang it out, has a decent hightlight reel. IT is just a different style. 2 years ago anyfight that went to the floor was getting booed now people are more interested in groundwork so people cheer. IT is all about education of the game.
Hmmm..I give Vera a chance to prove his talent on his next fight….I do believe that his broken hand plays a big factor on his loss against Tim.his only human.he sucked on that last fight..but consider youreself with one arm broken and youre fighting a giant..Hey figthing a giant with a complete hand is hard what else if you have a broken hand..Maybe if vera didnt broke his hand he can beat Tim or even knock him out..And whats with Tim.??hes a giant..and he is fighting a guy with a broken hand..and he cannot even knock vera out..I give vera a second chance..everybody deserve a second chance.if he suck again..Then he really suck..Its normal to lose a fight..you learn from youre fight and you learn a lot from youre mistakes.. i hope that vera learned his mistakes..chuck liddel used to be a great fighter but ..he can do nothing with rampage..even the good and great fighters knocked out..As for Tim..Hes a giant, he has the physical advantage over his opponents he should be turning in to a beast when his fighting..but Its like watching him fighting a fight that hes very scared of.
[quote comment=”262995″][quote comment=”262892″][quote comment=”262850″]I find it intresting how Tim Slyvia’s “Boring and hump you cage style”..has evolved. Vera sounds ticked off..he had his shot to shut Timmy up. Tim is no easy match up with his size, weight, reach advantege. Vera put into the fact he had such a long lay off before fighting Tim..may have played some part into his performance along side his left hand issue..I found Vera’s comments funny..but I ? Vera on a gameplan. From what Randy did to defeat Tim..and Randy’s fight wasn’t boring. Randy kept Tim guessing the whole fight and put on a wrestling/boxing clinic. Now that is a tuff brake to have an injury like that happen at the worst time. Tim is tuff to fight as is..but with only your right hand fully functional is a scary place to be. All Vera needs to do is make up for a ” Boring ” fight in his next match. Tim is infamous for the stalling and humping..and Vera is not..so lets see what happens when Vera turns the corner.[/quote]
dude frabklin broke his hand and jept punching the crow with it and dominated the fight, couture broke his arm and dominated gonzaga, joe daddy had a broken jaw and kept fighting and eating punches, there is no excuse it just comes down to how much heart you have an how much you really want it… (the win).[/quote]
what if your hand is so much in pain,& even you have a big heart but the level of pain is cant be handle? all fighter have their limit no matter how big their hear is[/quote]
Yep, Fanklin kept punching with a broken hand and he didn’t fight for almost a year because of it.
[quote comment=”263062″]i actually think Brandon made the fight boring, not Tim. yes, i know his hand was broken.[/quote]
It takes 2 to make a fight boring. If you are going to blame one though, it’s funny you picked the guy who’s fights are typically exciting rather than the guy who’s fights are usually Boring. Tim brings the worst out in fighters. Look what he did to AA.[quote comment=”263185″][quote comment=”263024″]It’s funny, all you bloggers talking smack about “no excuses”. Like breaking you hand is no big deal, come on! A broken hand would incapacitate most people! Hitting someone with one is a totally different story.[/quote]
Read the article right, he said he messed up his thumb. He’s just not as good as he thought he was. Put him in with Arlovski, Gonzaga, Congo, Cro-cop, Couture, or even Sylva and the out come will still be the same (more excuses)[/quote]
Don’t be so sure , Congo had his hands full with Asuario Silva and Brandon FINISHED him. One dimentional CC would get owned by Vera. What would AA do to Brandon that Sylvia COULDN’T do? Don’t you mean excuse? (He broke his hand) Sylvia is the one that needs the excuse(s) for not doing dick all to an injured Vera. Ah, he’s never lost before (don’t see much need for any other excuses). Sylvia won that boring fight fair and square and you can call the broken hand an excuse,but lets be honest, Vera uses his punches to set up his kicks and knees and he was obviously thrown off with out his left hand. Vera lost 1 Mua Thai fight and that was to a 6′ 8″ guy. It’s fair to say that Vera stuggles a bit with giants (as most guys do), that reach is hard to deal with. Considering how very little damage Tim was able to do to a one handed Vera, says more for him than against him. When Tim KO’s Nog you will know what I’m talking about.
[quote comment=”282705″][quote comment=”263062″]i actually think Brandon made the fight boring, not Tim. yes, i know his hand was broken.[/quote]
It takes 2 to make a fight boring. If you are going to blame one though, it’s funny you picked the guy who’s fights are typically exciting rather than the guy who’s fights are usually Boring. Tim brings the worst out in fighters. Look what he did to AA.[quote comment=”263185″][quote comment=”263024″]It’s funny, all you bloggers talking smack about “no excuses”. Like breaking you hand is no big deal, come on! A broken hand would incapacitate most people! Hitting someone with one is a totally different story.[/quote]
Read the article right, he said he messed up his thumb. He’s just not as good as he thought he was. Put him in with Arlovski, Gonzaga, Congo, Cro-cop, Couture, or even Sylva and the out come will still be the same (more excuses)[/quote]
Don’t be so sure , Congo had his hands full with Asuario Silva and Brandon FINISHED him. One dimentional CC would get owned by Vera. What would AA do to Brandon that Sylvia COULDN’T do? Don’t you mean excuse? (He broke his hand) Sylvia is the one that needs the excuse(s) for not doing dick all to an injured Vera. Ah, he’s never lost before (don’t see much need for any other excuses). Sylvia won that boring fight fair and square and you can call the broken hand an excuse,but lets be honest, Vera uses his punches to set up his kicks and knees and he was obviously thrown off with out his left hand. Vera lost 1 Mua Thai fight and that was to a 6′ 8″ guy. It’s fair to say that Vera stuggles a bit with giants (as most guys do), that reach is hard to deal with. Considering how very little damage Tim was able to do to a one handed Vera, says more for him than against him. When Tim KO’s Nog you will know what I’m talking about.[/quote]
You must be a brandon vera fan… couse vera talked alot of shit then went out there and did nothing. he was boring and took no chances against sylvia. i dont care if he broke his hand. rich franklin has fought with a broken hand so has rampage and alot of other tough guys, couse thats what you do if your a fighter. you broke your hand in the first round of a fight. what do you do just keep yourself from getting knocked out and let the other guy win a decision? or take some chances and have shot of knocking him out. i think most tough guys would pick the latter