Karo Parisyan (18-4) is booked to meet Thiago Alves (13-3) in a welterweight tilt at UFC Fight Night 13 at the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colorado on April 2.
Speculation about the 170-pound clash has been swirling for the past week.
Parisyan is on a three-fight win streak and has won 11 of his 13 career fights inside the Octagon. “The Heat” most recently outlasted Ryo Chonan at UFC 78: “Validation” in November 2007 to earn a unanimous decision. After the bout he revealed that he broke his hand during the action.
The Armenian-born Judoka is considered a top contender in the division and in line for a shot at the division title. In fact, he admitted last month that the title shot is his if he wants to wait. However, that would keep him on the shelf for the first half of 2008.
In addition, he claimed that he preferred to take an easier fight than going up against a another division top dog such as Jon Fitch to keep him active and ensure that his does not miss another crack at the crown like he did back in 2005.
However, the American Top Team-trained Alves is no slouch.
“The Pitbull” is on a four-fight win streak himself. He hasn’t lost a contest since meeting up with Fitch back in mid 2006. Alves most recently stopped Chris Lytle at UFC 78 via technical knockout (cuts) in the “Fight of the Night.”
UFC Fight Night 13 — the first show to hit Colorado in 14 years — is shaping up to be a dynamite card. To check it out right now click here.
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karo will win and should be a great fight with a lot of judo throws and ground and pound.too bad i like Alves and know him in person. seems like a good guy. but WAR KARO
First show in Canada…and man….it looks to be the best UFC of the year….hands down.
This is great!!!! Dana is coming around with his pay per view events….finally making them worth it.
lets not count out Alves anybody this fight could swing both ways
This is an AWESOME fight!!
So is Alves number 1 contender if he beats Karo?
This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.
[quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.
I also want to see hughes fight koscheck, fitch or karo, that would be very interesting.
karo obviously doesnt want the fitch fight he said it himself…he wants more of a sure win but thiago alves is a beast in his own right….cant stand karo at all except for when he said he wanted to “do some magic” on josh burkman hha
[quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Cans? Karo has already stated that he didnt want to fight Fitch, so he’d for sure to his title shot. And Thiago Silva, how would you view him as a can?
off the subject.Houston Alexander is supposedly fighting James Irvin soon
[quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Alves is NOT a can! Are you kidding? And he is improving every fight. I have Alves winning this fight.
[quote comment=”262382″][quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Alves is NOT a can! Are you kidding? And he is improving every fight. I have Alves winning this fight.[/quote]
I guess I over reacted and your right alves isn’t a can but I still want him to fight either koscheck or fitch to PROVE he’s the number one contender and forget this crap about his promised title shot way back in 2005 or something. Grow a scrotum karo and fight the best to prove your the best.
[quote comment=”262373″][quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Cans? Karo has already stated that he didnt want to fight Fitch, so he’d for sure to his title shot. And Thiago Silva, how would you view him as a can?[/quote]
Thiago Alves is not a can..but he lost to Fitch..So if Thiago beats Karo..does that make him the number1 contender?? Not really..Fitch vs Karo is what makes the only sense,.what is the *BCS of UFC* to rank fighters..in this fashion..Fitch/Kar o we can debate who really is number 1 forever..till these 2 square up.
Certainly not a bad fight, but I think Fitch/Karo makes a lot more sense.
Who fights the winner of Serra/GSP? Shouldn’t a Fitch/Karo fight decide that?!
I forget if I read this on here or not, but didn’t Karo say he already has a guaranteed title shot lined up? And the reason he didn’t want to fight Fitch is because he would be risking the title shot?
Hmmm, anyway.. Fitch/Karo should be on 82, 83, or 84. I thought we’re supposed to be seeing the best possible matchups..
great card….can’t wait to go….I’m real glad they’re not half assing it cause its in Canada.
Can’t really blame Karo for not taking the Fitch fight.
I’m gonna laugh if he loses this one, though I don’t see it happening if he comes in shape.
Called thisfight befor it was posted,, I think its a beautiful matchup and im really looking forrward to seeing them fight i think karo will win by borring decision.
[quote comment=”262459″]Can’t really blame Karo for not taking the Fitch fight.
I’m gonna laugh if he loses this one, though I don’t see it happening if he comes in shape.[/quote]
I would like to see john fitch fight either of them, i think he can beat them.
Honestly, IMHO, Welterweight right now doesn’t really matter much. Fitch, Karo, Koscheck, Alves, … no one stands a chance against GSP. After GSP (hopefully) runs through Serra, Karo will be next, then Fitch, then… hmmm, a move to Middleweight?
[quote comment=”262481″]Honestly, IMHO, Welterweight right now doesn’t really matter much. Fitch, Karo, Koscheck, Alves, … no one stands a chance against GSP. After GSP (hopefully) runs through Serra, Karo will be next, then Fitch, then… hmmm, a move to Middleweight?[/quote]
I wanna see him re-match BJ first.
[quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Your absolutely right.
[quote comment=”262316″]karo will win and should be a great fight with a lot of judo throws and ground and pound.too bad i like Alves and know him in person. seems like a good guy. but WAR KARO[/quote]
Your name gives away a bit of biased towards Karo. I think Thiago chops Karo’s legs, bit by bit, until he is limping around and gets set up for a knockout. Karo is good, but Alves’s leg-kicks are insanely fast and cause a ton of damage.
[quote comment=”262484″][quote comment=”262481″]Honestly, IMHO, Welterweight right now doesn’t really matter much. Fitch, Karo, Koscheck, Alves, … no one stands a chance against GSP. After GSP (hopefully) runs through Serra, Karo will be next, then Fitch, then… hmmm, a move to Middleweight?[/quote]
I wanna see him re-match BJ first.[/quote]
Bj owned him in the first round. THe second round was still BJ, but the UFC’s judges think dollars first and points second.
I would have to put Karo at #4 in the division, behind: GSP, Matt Hughes, Jon Fitch, and Josh Koscheck. I know Matt Serra is the champion, but he hasn’t beaten anyone in the top 10, with the exception of GSP, and he caught him early. Also, Serra fought Karo, and despite catching Karo early, lost a one-sided unanimous decision.
[quote comment=”262380″]off the subject.Houston Alexander is supposedly fighting James Irvin soon[/quote]
that should be a war,
Hope Karo gets KTFO!
I can see why this match is going on… If Karo loses then Fitch is the #1 for sure. If he wins He is on par with Fitch and Had an earlier title shot so fire it at him. Karo went the distance with GSP.(Not an easy task)
The only real problem with deciding karo over fitch is fitch beat Diego in a decision. And Karo lost the match of the year also a decision. So in all reality if they match up its gonna go the distance.
I hope Karo is sharp and wins, same goes for Fitch. There will be a collision course for these two but why not make it a title fight if its gonna happen, Thats what Silva is thinking. People will watch GSP with anyone. So why not give GSP the chance to get a fight with these two. IF karo and fitch fight he will only be fighting one.
GSP is a wicked fighter but if someone like serra can dethrone him Fitch or Karo very well might.
I do wanna see Kos vs Hughs though. That would be a doosy.
Hughs would think he would win and Kos would think this is a stepping stone back to contention.
“Grow a scrotum karo and fight the best to prove your the best.” LOL. He can’t grow a scrotum, don’t you see? He IS a scrotum. I don’t respect the man, but I do respect the fighter. Not sure why he’s ducking Fitch anyway, b/c Karo will have to fight him if he ever takes the title.
Fitch has been pestering the UFC for a fight with Karo, which (as we all knows is a no-brainer) and would determine number one contender. Karo TURNED DOWN the Fitch fight because he wanted to preserve his promised title shot…
Now he has realized that GSP is fighting Serra in Montreal so he would be looking at a 6 - 9 month layoff without fighting. So, instead of stepping up like a man and asking for Fitch (Thiago and Gono could easily be matched) he’s opted for an easier fight. Don’t get me wrong, Thiago is tough, but Fitch is the man to beat.
One question for Karo:
IF YOU CAN’T BEAT FITCH, HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA BEAT GSP?
Stop delaying the inevitable and take the fight everyone wants to see…
[quote comment=”262713″][quote comment=”262380″]off the subject.Houston Alexander is supposedly fighting James Irvin soon[/quote]
that should be a war,[/quote]
Alexander will knock Irvin out for good!
I think Karo/Fitch does make the most sense. Karo stated publicly that he wouldn’t fight a ‘tough’ opponent because he was guaranteed a title shot after his last W. Since Karo missed out on his last opportunity for a title shot, it’s understandable that he wants to make sure he’ll get that shot - but fighting someone like Alves does not guarantee him that spot at all. Alves is far from a can in this division. In my opinion we’ll see Karo/Fitch sometime soon to determine a #1 contender…cheers.
UFC 84 looks great so far. Also sherk was promised a title shot against the winner of Penn/stevenson at UFC 84……and the return of SHOGUN!
Looks like Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin will happen at UFC 83
Obviously everyone wants to see Karo/Fitch for the #1 contenders match and it makes the most sense. It sucks that Karo had a title shot a few years back now but had to withdraw due to injury and he’s been hungry for that shot ever since. I think he’s done enough to deserve one and if he’s promised one then why risk it? People may say he’s ducking Fitch and maybe he is…or maybe he just respects Fitch and his ability and the risk does not outweight the reward since he’s already got the title shot and has nothing to really gain by fighting Fitch and a lot to lose. I like Karo…until he opens his mouth. He’s a great fighter and I think that this way at least we’ll get to see GSP/Serra obviously, then GSP/Karo followed by GSP/Fitch all during 2008 as long as all the favored fighters win. I think this scenario makes for an awesome year for the WW division.
[quote comment=”262532″][quote comment=”262484″][quote comment=”262481″]Honestly, IMHO, Welterweight right now doesn’t really matter much. Fitch, Karo, Koscheck, Alves, … no one stands a chance against GSP. After GSP (hopefully) runs through Serra, Karo will be next, then Fitch, then… hmmm, a move to Middleweight?[/quote]
I wanna see him re-match BJ first.[/quote]
Bj owned him in the first round. THe second round was still BJ, but the UFC’s judges think dollars first and points second.[/quote]
dude your crazy gsp won the last 2 rounds hands down and he was holding his own in the first, you cant say the same about BJ he couldnt hang for the remaining end of the 2nd and the whole 3rd round that was all GSP baby
[quote comment=”262787″][quote comment=”262713″][quote comment=”262380″]off the subject.Houston Alexander is supposedly fighting James Irvin soon[/quote]
that should be a war,[/quote]
Alexander will knock Irvin out for good![/quote]
just like he did to Thiago silva huh??? dude Irvin is a damn good LHW he should be considered in the mix at the top not this overrated street thug, that gasses in 1 minute if he cant get the knock out, with a big heart that is agood dad. Irvin had some bad luck against Silva when he got injured cant really say who would of won but on the feet Irvin is more presice with his combinations so he would of taken that fight unless Silva could take him down and GnP or submit anywho, Irvin then just got a knee to the head by this guy while he was in the floor, let me tell you I ran into Roan Carniero and that dude that kneed Irvin in the casino the dude is freaking big that must of been a hard hit. with that being said Irvin is world class and Houston we have a problem!!!!!
Karo didn’t say he would never fight Fitch. He just doesn’t want to ruin his chance at a title shot again. I’m sure Karo would be more than happy to defend the WW title against Fitch or challenge Fitch for it, depending on who gets first crack at the GSP-Serra winner, and if they beat said winner. All that being said, I can’t imagine Alves is really happy at being considered a “lesser opponent.”
Aside from BJ, Karo is the only guy that stands a chance against GSP. When they fought years ago Karo was actually controlling the fight until he gassed. Karo obviously has the skills to be champion.
Its understandable that he would duck fitch if indeed he’s next in line for a title shot. But that begs the question: where does that put serra after he loses to GSP? Will fitch have to fight serra for a title shot or hughes for that matter? Or are both Fitch and Karo guaranteed title shots if they win their respective fights?
The division is getting a bit muddled, but hopefully time will tell. I’m a Karo fan (despite his personality)but admitedly i wouldn’t be shocked if he lost to alves who has looked good in his last couple fights.
This is how it should go:
GSP vs. Karo for title
Fitch vs. Hughes
Kos vs. serra
diego vs. alves
[quote comment=”262532″][quote comment=”262484″][quote comment=”262481″]Honestly, IMHO, Welterweight right now doesn’t really matter much. Fitch, Karo, Koscheck, Alves, … no one stands a chance against GSP. After GSP (hopefully) runs through Serra, Karo will be next, then Fitch, then… hmmm, a move to Middleweight?[/quote]
I wanna see him re-match BJ first.[/quote]
Bj owned him in the first round. THe second round was still BJ, but the UFC’s judges think dollars first and points second.[/quote]
I had it 2-1 for GSP. Round 1 was clearly BJ’s. 2nd round was close but I gave it to GSP. 3rd round, BJ gassed, easy round to score for GSP.
Now, BJ did more damage in the first round than GSP did in the last 2 rounds combined, but the fight is scored on a per-round basis. This is exactly why I want to see them do it again.
JUST FIGHT FITCH ALREADY!!!! Since losing his title shot due to injury, Karo has not proven himself to be the #1 contender, yet he and the UFC seems to be okay calling him that. If Karo is fighting in April, and Fitch is fighting in March, THERE IS NO REASON THEY SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER, except for the fact that Karo is scared.
I REALLY want to see Thiago knock his head off!
i rather sea karo vs. fitch, anyway it still a good matchup,
my prediction:
KARO BY UNANIMOUS DESICIIIIIOOOOOONNNN!
[quote comment=”262872″]Aside from BJ, Karo is the only guy that stands a chance against GSP. When they fought years ago Karo was actually controlling the fight until he gassed. Karo obviously has the skills to be champion.
Its understandable that he would duck fitch if indeed he’s next in line for a title shot. But that begs the question: where does that put serra after he loses to GSP? Will fitch have to fight serra for a title shot or hughes for that matter? Or are both Fitch and Karo guaranteed title shots if they win their respective fights?
The division is getting a bit muddled, but hopefully time will tell. I’m a Karo fan (despite his personality)but admitedly i wouldn’t be shocked if he lost to alves who has looked good in his last couple fights.
This is how it should go:
GSP vs. Karo for title
Fitch vs. Hughes
Kos vs. serra
diego vs. alves[/quote]
Good look but the only thing is that you must consider that Hughes is done. I think the last fight you will see Matt Hughes in is a bad blood fight with Matt Serra. We all know the ass whooping that’s waiting for Serra from GSP. Hughes will hope that Serra loses so that they can have the fight they both wanted. Hughes will have a chance to have one last good fight and finish on a great note by shutting Serra’s mouth. I don’t feel that Karo should be number one only because when you want to be the best you don’t duck anybody. And Karo is clearly ducking the fight with Fitch. I like Karo. His fights are exciting when he has his way with an opponent but this high in the ranks he can’t have his way with any of them. They are too tough. Dana White should be thinking that Fitch vs Karo makes a number one contender with Kos and Diego not too far behind. As far as Serra goes, It’s not like he dominated the welter wieght ranks to get his title shot. He won a show that didn’t even have top 5 fighters in it. WHEN he loses his title to GSP his only cedit will be to fight Matt Hughes then he is done. I mean come on, do you really see Serra beating Fitch or Kos or Diego or any other top ww to get another shot? NO WAY
well at least karo is not sitting around waiting to fight the champ, and this is no easy fight and he is no can.it should be a great fight.
[quote comment=”262918″]JUST FIGHT FITCH ALREADY!!!! Since losing his title shot due to injury, Karo has not proven himself to be the #1 contender, yet he and the UFC seems to be okay calling him that. If Karo is fighting in April, and Fitch is fighting in March, THERE IS NO REASON THEY SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER, except for the fact that Karo is scared.
I REALLY want to see Thiago knock his head off![/quote]
I am with you on that…Man up Karo…..what kind of champ doesnt fight the top contenders? Oh yeah tito! Karo is in danger of becoming a talented Tito Ortiz….Man the F*k UP!!!
i see a lot of karo haters in these forums. the guy has been giving you hours of excitement and people still talk shit about him. the funny thing is that people dont talk shit about that fuckin crackhead nick diaz that lost to karo, joe riggs and even kj noons.diaz talks shit about every oponent and even said “fuck every single WW in the ufc”. but still people like that fuckin idiot.not saying this cause im armenian.it is just not fair.
Karo is soo good… hes his judo will over power alves
[quote comment=”262933″]i rather sea karo vs. fitch, anyway it still a good matchup,
my prediction:
KARO BY UNANIMOUS DESICIIIIIOOOOOONNNN! :)[/quote]
Yeah Maybe If Fitch was in a coma during the Fight.
But unfortunetly will never ever see that fight, because Karo is a chicken shit i said it once ill say it again, Fitch is the best 170 pounder in the world, BECAUSE no one wants to fight him. I feel bad for Gono.
Karo why dont you just move weight classes you pussy
[quote comment=”262981″]i see a lot of karo haters in these forums. the guy has been giving you hours of excitement and people still talk shit about him. the funny thing is that people dont talk shit about that fuckin crackhead nick diaz that lost to karo, joe riggs and even kj noons.diaz talks shit about every oponent and even said “fuck every single WW in the ufc”. but still people like that fuckin idiot.not saying this cause im armenian.it is just not fair.[/quote]
No one is bashing Karo’s skills. We are bashing him for ducking Fitch and then accepting a fight against Tiago. I am a big fan of Karo’s skill set but ducking Fitch is a B*tch move.
I was born in Italy and you dont hear me crying about why does everyone rip on Sakara….
[quote comment=”263001″][quote comment=”262981″]i see a lot of karo haters in these forums. the guy has been giving you hours of excitement and people still talk shit about him. the funny thing is that people dont talk shit about that fuckin crackhead nick diaz that lost to karo, joe riggs and even kj noons.diaz talks shit about every oponent and even said “fuck every single WW in the ufc”. but still people like that fuckin idiot.not saying this cause im armenian.it is just not fair.[/quote]
No one is bashing Karo’s skills. We are bashing him for ducking Fitch and then accepting a fight against Tiago. I am a big fan of Karo’s skill set but ducking Fitch is a B*tch move.
I was born in Italy and you dont hear me crying about why does everyone rip on Sakara….[/quote]
Yeah, you definitely have more to complain about being a fan of Sakara. Just by looking at his frame, I would have to guess a move down to middleweight might be a good move for him. He just doesn’t seem to have it in the light-heavyweight division.
[quote comment=”262997″][quote comment=”262933″]i rather sea karo vs. fitch, anyway it still a good matchup,
my prediction:
KARO BY UNANIMOUS DESICIIIIIOOOOOONNNN! :)[/quote]
Yeah Maybe If Fitch was in a coma during the Fight.
But unfortunetly will never ever see that fight, because Karo is a chicken shit i said it once ill say it again, Fitch is the best 170 pounder in the world, BECAUSE no one wants to fight him. I feel bad for Gono.
Karo why dont you just move weight classes you pussy[/quote]
I guarantee gsp would have no trouble fighting him if the title was on the line, or it would give him a title shot. So would bj penn, matt hughes, matt serra, diego sanchez who lost already, I guarantee these guys aren’t “afraid” to fight him, do you think nick diaz is afraid of anyone? I don’t. Its a matter of timing, but I also feel part of the reason in the past maybe no one wanted to fight him is why fight a lesser fighter you have more to lose. But now he’s within the top 5 and is much more established and since he beat diego his stock has greatly gone up. I’m pretty sure we’ll see him fight gsp this year and predict a very entertaining fight.
[quote comment=”262997″][quote comment=”262933″]i rather sea karo vs. fitch, anyway it still a good matchup,
my prediction:
KARO BY UNANIMOUS DESICIIIIIOOOOOONNNN! :)[/quote]
Yeah Maybe If Fitch was in a coma during the Fight.
But unfortunetly will never ever see that fight, because Karo is a chicken shit i said it once ill say it again, Fitch is the best 170 pounder in the world, BECAUSE no one wants to fight him. I feel bad for Gono.
Karo why dont you just move weight classes you pussy[/quote]
the only guy i see beating Karo (which is very questionable) is GSP.
Ever since Karo showed up on the show and picked a fight with Diaz I lost all respect for him. He appears to be a punk ass bitch and I realllllllllllly hope he gets his jaw broken clean off.
[quote comment=”263048″][quote comment=”262997″][quote comment=”262933″]i rather sea karo vs. fitch, anyway it still a good matchup,
my prediction:
KARO BY UNANIMOUS DESICIIIIIOOOOOONNNN! :)[/quote]
Yeah Maybe If Fitch was in a coma during the Fight.
But unfortunetly will never ever see that fight, because Karo is a chicken shit i said it once ill say it again, Fitch is the best 170 pounder in the world, BECAUSE no one wants to fight him. I feel bad for Gono.
Karo why dont you just move weight classes you pussy[/quote]
the only guy i see beating Karo (which is very questionable) is GSP.[/quote]
If thats the case, call up Karo and tell him to man up and fight Fitch. He says he doesnt want to risk his title shot by fighting Fitch and then 2 weeks later he accepts a fight against Tiago Alveres who is no Joke…which leads me to believe he is ducking Fitch….Karo needs to man up…he may have earned a title shot in 2005, but he hasnt earned one in my oppinion at this point in time….Man up Karo!
wow, this is gonna be a tough fight for karo. i can understand him not wanting to fight fitch because he doesn’t want to lose where he’s at on the contention ladder, like he did when he lost to diego. but he better not look past alves, this guy is capable of doing that exact same thing. i do think that if karo wins this fight that he deserves the next shot at the title and then if he was somehow able to beat gsp we would all finally be able to see the long awaited karo/fitch showdown. karo won’t be able to duck him then…
it is pretty amazing how they edit comments here. i see one sentence out of probably ten in my last comment.good job mmamania.com. you really make peoples’ opinions make sence.does it make sence? hahahaha
[quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
word it should be karo vs fitch with the winner facing the winner of gsp/serra.
[quote comment=”262389″][quote comment=”262382″][quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Alves is NOT a can! Are you kidding? And he is improving every fight. I have Alves winning this fight.[/quote]
I guess I over reacted and your right alves isn’t a can but I still want him to fight either koscheck or fitch to PROVE he’s the number one contender and forget this crap about his promised title shot way back in 2005 or something. Grow a scrotum karo and fight the best to prove your the best.[/quote]
Kind of funny since in another thread you said you barely know who Fitch is.
[quote comment=”262934″][quote comment=”262872″]Aside from BJ, Karo is the only guy that stands a chance against GSP. When they fought years ago Karo was actually controlling the fight until he gassed. Karo obviously has the skills to be champion.
Its understandable that he would duck fitch if indeed he’s next in line for a title shot. But that begs the question: where does that put serra after he loses to GSP? Will fitch have to fight serra for a title shot or hughes for that matter? Or are both Fitch and Karo guaranteed title shots if they win their respective fights?
The division is getting a bit muddled, but hopefully time will tell. I’m a Karo fan (despite his personality)but admitedly i wouldn’t be shocked if he lost to alves who has looked good in his last couple fights.
This is how it should go:
GSP vs. Karo for title
Fitch vs. Hughes
Kos vs. serra
diego vs. alves[/quote]
Good look but the only thing is that you must consider that Hughes is done. I think the last fight you will see Matt Hughes in is a bad blood fight with Matt Serra. We all know the ass whooping that’s waiting for Serra from GSP. Hughes will hope that Serra loses so that they can have the fight they both wanted. Hughes will have a chance to have one last good fight and finish on a great note by shutting Serra’s mouth. I don’t feel that Karo should be number one only because when you want to be the best you don’t duck anybody. And Karo is clearly ducking the fight with Fitch. I like Karo. His fights are exciting when he has his way with an opponent but this high in the ranks he can’t have his way with any of them. They are too tough. Dana White should be thinking that Fitch vs Karo makes a number one contender with Kos and Diego not too far behind. As far as Serra goes, It’s not like he dominated the welter wieght ranks to get his title shot. He won a show that didn’t even have top 5 fighters in it. WHEN he loses his title to GSP his only cedit will be to fight Matt Hughes then he is done. I mean come on, do you really see Serra beating Fitch or Kos or Diego or any other top ww to get another shot? NO WAY[/quote]
Chris, you’re right about serra not being a #1 contender, but i don’t think he drops to the bottom of the division either. Serra was decent on the show (save his match w/lytle) and went on to whoop GSP. mma weekly put him at the top of the world rankings for crying out loud. Perhaps Serra really has improved THAT MUCH since getting caught by shonnie back in the day…
As for ducking fitch, I don’t think this brands karo a coward. He just doesn’t want to make the same mistake he did with diego–getting robbed by the judges again. given his record in the ufc, karo should have already had a title shot by now. Lets just hope he can finish alves to silence the critics.
I like this fight. After watching Alves last fight, this should be non stop, it reminds me of the type of fight Karo had with Nick Diaz and with Diego Sancez.
I don’t understand the Kos/Hazlett, Gono/Fitch, or Karo/Alves, Kos shiuld be fighting Alves and Fitch should be fighting Karo. If the higher rank guys all win nothing changes, they virtually stay exactly where they are now in the rankings.
Karo said himself that he didn’t want to fight Fitch as he would risk losing his so-called title shot. I can’t see the UFC honoring that if Karo loses. Kos and Fitch are in the same boat, and I think it’s extremely gay that either of the two will ever come to an agreement to fight each other.
Bottom line Kos, Fitch and Karo are all taking unecessary risks and have nothing to gain by taking these fights. The way the WW division is now it’s going to take a while to sort it out.
How much say or control do you think Karo has in who he fights. The UFC looks after it’s favourite fighters like Sherk, Hughes or Liddel. Karo is definately not one of there favourites, and they seem to keeping him as far away from a title shot as possible. The guy came back from injury and they gave him Diego to fight, this shows that they are not doing Karo any favours. I don’t think he has much say at all in who he fights, and he may not want to fight Fitch which is understandable, but the choice of who he fights is down to the UFC, with Karo he gets what he’s given. I think they were hoping Ryo would beat him, so that he could be pushed back again, but that did not quite work. Koschecks last fight was a loss so he shouldn’t be fighting Karo or Fitch, maybe later down the line though, it would be good to see him get the beating he deserves.
Alves, PLEASE kick Karo’s ass
[quote comment=”262350″][quote comment=”262336″]This is stupid!! Why wouldn’t you put Fitch against Karo? I don’t understand this thinking at all. Karo has to be ducking Fitch. Fitch v. Gono and Karo v. Alves only muddies the WW waters. Karo v. Fitch makes a clear number one contender. If either Fitch or Karo lose, they fall down the WW ladder significantly.
Does anyone have the number to Joe Silva?
With that said, this fight should be pretty good. Karo will definitely have his hands full.[/quote]
Totally agree, UFC QUIT GIVING KARO CANS TO FIGHT!!!!!!! Karo should either fight koscheck or fitch, I’m dying to know who is the best of these three but unless they fight we’ll never know, only speculate.[/quote]
Wow, did you just call Thiago Alves a can? Apparently you haven’t seen Thiago fight, the guy is no can, that’s for damn sure. He’s looked impressive in every fight, despite the two losses, one to Spencer Fisher in his first UFC fight, the next to Fitch…neither opponent was a slouch. Thiago has the best Muay Thai in the UFC, I’m giving this fight to him all the way….his bjj/wrestling are good too…
I know Jon Fitch form high school. Jon is a machine. He did what any true warrior would do when some other sissy ducks a fight. He headed for the next victom. He did not stop, he did not waiver. At this point in the “game”, he is the type of man who will take on all comers. Karo knows it and he IS afraid. Is will be a shame if the UFC follows in the foot steps of the professional boxing world and not offer Fitch the shot if Karo runs from Jon. That fight would end the discussion. I hope the UFC doesn’t tarnish the sport and lower it self to the pro boxing world. We all know how well the fans are faithfully following the that train wreck..NOT!
Karo got this one, this is a statement fight for him
My prediction round 1 via submission, arm bar
KARO AND FITCH ARE ON THE TOP. UFC WANTS TO GET BOTH OF THEM
TO FIGHT WITH GSP.KARO HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A TITLE SHOT FOR A LONG TIME, AND I THINK IT WAS WISE FOR HIM NOT TO TAKE ON FITCH.THIS WAY YOU HAVE FITCH.GSP KARO.GSP(HOPEFULLY ONE OF THEM TAKES IT) THEN KARO.FITCH WHICH I THINK KARO WILL BEAT FITCH ANY DAY