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	<title>Comments on: Operation &#8216;Ice Cliff:&#8217; Chuck Liddell&#8217;s plan to takedown Wanderlei Silva (Literally)</title>
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		<title>By: Gord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what the big deal is. Chuck stated quite clearly in his post fight interveiw, his reason for taking Wandy down. By showing you can take a guy down ,gives him more to worry about defensively and OPENS up striking opportunities. Randy was able to light Sylvia up more than AA was for this reason alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what the big deal is. Chuck stated quite clearly in his post fight interveiw, his reason for taking Wandy down. By showing you can take a guy down ,gives him more to worry about defensively and OPENS up striking opportunities. Randy was able to light Sylvia up more than AA was for this reason alone.</p>
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		<title>By: rage</title>
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		<dc:creator>rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;260601&quot;][quote comment=&quot;260589&quot;][quote comment=&quot;260577&quot;][quote comment=&quot;260570&quot;]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]

It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years....bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position....not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO&#039;ed.[/quote]

I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.

It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like &quot;the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.&quot;

If that&#039;s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?

I don&#039;t care that he did. Whatever.

But what he says and what he does don&#039;t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that&#039;s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.[/quote]

I would have to agree[/quote]

horsesh** If you didn&#039;t notice, Wandy was bleeding all over the canvass. His face was beat in. I have respect for Silva,he  was barely standing when it was over. A simple jab from Chuck probably would have layed him down. Silva took more hits from Liddell than anyone I&#039;ve personally seen. He was dominated standing up and on the ground. As far as &quot;smart fans&quot; go, the only thing Chuck didn&#039;t capitalize on was the knock out. He was sharp in every other respect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="260601"][quote comment="260589"][quote comment="260577"][quote comment="260570"]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]</p>
<p>It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years&#8230;.bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position&#8230;.not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO&#8217;ed.[/quote]</p>
<p>I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.</p>
<p>It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like &#8220;the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that he did. Whatever.</p>
<p>But what he says and what he does don&#8217;t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that&#8217;s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.[/quote]</p>
<p>I would have to agree[/quote]</p>
<p>horsesh** If you didn&#8217;t notice, Wandy was bleeding all over the canvass. His face was beat in. I have respect for Silva,he  was barely standing when it was over. A simple jab from Chuck probably would have layed him down. Silva took more hits from Liddell than anyone I&#8217;ve personally seen. He was dominated standing up and on the ground. As far as &#8220;smart fans&#8221; go, the only thing Chuck didn&#8217;t capitalize on was the knock out. He was sharp in every other respect</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All chuck haters stop crying and stop hating!! He dominated a slug fest for 3 rounds and seen it out with a little take down!! As if wandi was gony knock him out, he could hardly breath let alone throw a knock out punch. Grow up and respect for once</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All chuck haters stop crying and stop hating!! He dominated a slug fest for 3 rounds and seen it out with a little take down!! As if wandi was gony knock him out, he could hardly breath let alone throw a knock out punch. Grow up and respect for once</p>
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		<title>By: Chadx23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chadx23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;260638&quot;]I understand the ufc owes tito alot for hepling get the sport on the map but would anyone rather see Machida vs tito? Or Machida vs Liddell? the Liddell fight would be an awsome fight. Both good counter punchers. I&#039;d like to see chuck try and take down machida! I think machida can defintely hang with chuck on the feet and could take chuck down if he wanted. Whatever happened to chuck saying he would ko whoever the ufc put in front of him?
Weak![/quote]

Name someone in the UFC with more KO&#039;s than Chuck in LHW, and more exciting KO&#039;s overall.....oh yea there arent any, shit man Chuck looks good KOing people and he even looks good when getting KO&#039;d by Rampage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="260638"]I understand the ufc owes tito alot for hepling get the sport on the map but would anyone rather see Machida vs tito? Or Machida vs Liddell? the Liddell fight would be an awsome fight. Both good counter punchers. I&#8217;d like to see chuck try and take down machida! I think machida can defintely hang with chuck on the feet and could take chuck down if he wanted. Whatever happened to chuck saying he would ko whoever the ufc put in front of him?<br />
Weak![/quote]</p>
<p>Name someone in the UFC with more KO&#8217;s than Chuck in LHW, and more exciting KO&#8217;s overall&#8230;..oh yea there arent any, shit man Chuck looks good KOing people and he even looks good when getting KO&#8217;d by Rampage!</p>
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		<title>By: Virgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>January 30th 6:30PM
Meet Chuck &quot;The Iceman&quot; Liddell
Chuck &quot;The Iceman&quot; Liddell stops by the Virgin Megastore Times Square on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM to sign copies of his new book &quot;Iceman: My Fighting Life&quot;. Purchase Chuck&#039;s new book beginning at 9AM on Tuesday, January 29th at the Times Square location only to receive a wristband to attend the signing on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM. Time &amp; Space are limited so please arrive early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 30th 6:30PM<br />
Meet Chuck &#8220;The Iceman&#8221; Liddell<br />
Chuck &#8220;The Iceman&#8221; Liddell stops by the Virgin Megastore Times Square on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM to sign copies of his new book &#8220;Iceman: My Fighting Life&#8221;. Purchase Chuck&#8217;s new book beginning at 9AM on Tuesday, January 29th at the Times Square location only to receive a wristband to attend the signing on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM. Time &amp; Space are limited so please arrive early.</p>
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		<title>By: FFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>FFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post=&quot;4462&quot;]Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated &quot;&#039;Rampage&#039;&#039; and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby...at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes. [/quote]
Bullfighter 3- You are an idiot. The fight game is more than just slugging it out.  Chuck shows he developed as a fighter, dominated on the fight and put the icing on the cake as well as the whole thing to bed with some takedowns.  Nobody gets mad when Koscheck does this for three rounds to ink a decision, but if Chuck does this for 20 seconds, he is a &quot;pussy&quot;. I am not even a Chuck fan and was rooting for Wandi, but hats off to him for a dominating performance.  Even Wandi gave him props.  Go grow a brain and start using it before you blog next time, douchey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote post="4462"]Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated &#8220;&#8216;Rampage&#8221; and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby&#8230;at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes. [/quote]<br />
Bullfighter 3- You are an idiot. The fight game is more than just slugging it out.  Chuck shows he developed as a fighter, dominated on the fight and put the icing on the cake as well as the whole thing to bed with some takedowns.  Nobody gets mad when Koscheck does this for three rounds to ink a decision, but if Chuck does this for 20 seconds, he is a &#8220;pussy&#8221;. I am not even a Chuck fan and was rooting for Wandi, but hats off to him for a dominating performance.  Even Wandi gave him props.  Go grow a brain and start using it before you blog next time, douchey.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote post=&quot;4462&quot;]I find it hilarious that the same people that say Chuck pussed out with the takedowns are the same guy&#039;s that predicted Wanderlei would win not because he was the superior fighter, but they felt Chuck was over the hill and didn&#039;t stand a chance in this brawl. Wandy got out maneuvered, this is chess boy&#039;s and girl&#039;s, not checkers! [/quote]

This is MMA not chess or checkers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote post="4462"]I find it hilarious that the same people that say Chuck pussed out with the takedowns are the same guy&#8217;s that predicted Wanderlei would win not because he was the superior fighter, but they felt Chuck was over the hill and didn&#8217;t stand a chance in this brawl. Wandy got out maneuvered, this is chess boy&#8217;s and girl&#8217;s, not checkers! [/quote]</p>
<p>This is MMA not chess or checkers!</p>
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		<title>By: SeeRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeeRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;261659&quot;][quote comment=&quot;260649&quot;]i just hope they don&#039;t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]

Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.[/quote]
True statement. Machida looks more and more like the front-runner these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="261659"][quote comment="260649"]i just hope they don&#8217;t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]</p>
<p>Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.[/quote]<br />
True statement. Machida looks more and more like the front-runner these days.</p>
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		<title>By: bullfighter 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>bullfighter 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated &#039;&#039;Rampage&#039;&#039; and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby...at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated &#8221;Rampage&#8221; and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby&#8230;at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;260649&quot;]i just hope they don&#039;t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]

Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="260649"]i just hope they don&#8217;t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]</p>
<p>Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.</p>
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