We’ve been hearing a lot of feedback (good and bad) about the uncharacteristic takedowns Chuck Liddell implemented during his fight with Wanderlei Silva at UFC 79: “Nemesis.”
According to his long-time trainer, John Hackleman, in an interview with FightHype.com, the “Iceman” and fellow Pit team member Glover Teixera scripted the maneuver, dubbed “Ice Cliff,” before the fight.
In fact, Liddell brought in an Olympic-caliber wrestler to prepare him for the fight (there was a lot of pre-fight talk about “special guests” at the Liddell camp) or perhaps that split-second in round three.
The spinning back fist — another fresh twist from Liddell — was his own idea.
Whoever said you can’t teach an old dog new tricks?
(Yes, I know. Liddell was a wrestler before he was a fighter. His recent M.O., however, has been one dimensional and overly reliant on the knockout.)
Note: In the interview Hackleman basically echoes recent statements from Liddell that a rematch with Keith Jardine would be a good idea for his next fight. In addition, he heaps praise on Lyoto Machida and indicates that he is “one of the least guys” he would like Chuck to fight.
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No kidding Hackleman doesn’t want Chuck to fight Machida.
I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.
[quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.
[quote comment=”260567″]No kidding Hackleman doesn’t want Chuck to fight Machida.[/quote]
Yeah, no surprise there. And I’m sure he’s not the only LHW trainer thinking that!
Your right, Chuck did do it for the judges, but wouldn’t you? And Wandy got owned standing up too. It was built up as the fight of the century (so have a few other big fights) but it looked like two aging stars trying to save their careers.
[quote comment=”260577″][quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.[/quote]
I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.
It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like “the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.”
If that’s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?
I don’t care that he did. Whatever.
But what he says and what he does don’t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that’s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.
[quote comment=”260589″][quote comment=”260577″][quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.[/quote]
I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.
It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like “the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.”
If that’s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?
I don’t care that he did. Whatever.
But what he says and what he does don’t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that’s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.[/quote]
I would have to agree
Roy Jones Jr. Comments on MMA & Favorite Fighter
CREDIT: THETAKEDOWN.NET
Roy Jones On MMA:
I think it’s wonderful. I’m a big fan. I watch a lot of it. I never really thought about getting in the cage, but I do love it. I love anybody that fights. That’s just what I am. I’m a fighter and I love anybody that has the heart to go in there and face somebody one on one and fight. You got to love that, you know? Jones On His Favorite Fighter: Rampage is probably my favorite right now.
I’m not so sure Chuck didn’t go for the knockout in the 3rd. Those last couple of combinations he threw landed flush and Silva was still standing (and swinging), albeit none too steadily. Yeah, Chuck was looking at the clock, but he was starting to gas, also. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and continue to think he still respected Silva’s power and wanted to make sure he won that fight. Plus, the spinnning backfist was sick and caught everyone by surprise- especially Silva. That was not a run-out-the-clock maneuver. Neither was the takedown, in my opinion, just another weapon in the arsenal. Could have worked the GNP from there, but that’s not his gig.
spinning backfist. thats the one punch that did rock wandi. it probably would have koed most, but most don’t have wandi’s chin. i think chuck used the takedown in the 3rd because he was tired. i don’t think either of the 2 takedowns were of any signifigance in this fight though and don’t understand why it is an issue at all unless someone is trying to make excuses.
Diego Sanchez vs Jeff Joslin
This fight might be the possible matchup according to mma weekly Joslin is rumored on the card and Sanchez expects to fight in April. This is a good comeback fight for both fighters.
George Sotiropoulos vs Roman Mitichyan…
Fight should be in March on the Silva vs Hendo card. Looking forward to the fight should be a ground war.
Source: George himself.
ma doooode
r u kidding me?
chuck is gonna takedown everyone
hes gonna be able to takedown himself even though he has the best takedown defense
Eddie Sanchez vs. Cro Cop 2 (possibly)…I hope not.
Eddie said in his post interview that he wants Mirko…
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Vide….home&gid=9391
I understand why he wouldn’t want Chuck fighting Machida, but why do we have to watch Tito/Machida?
I think Machida has done enough to deserve a matchup with a top 5 guy. IMO, Machida fighting Tito is a step down from fighting Soko. Yes, Soko only had 5 fights to his name, but he beat 2 top 10 guys in his last 2 fights. That’s a lot more than I can say for Tito.
Machida should be fighting Chuck, Shogun, or Jardine. Like it or not, Jardine is ranked higher than Tito right now.
Sengoku(World Victory Road) to collaborate with ex-PRIDE staff
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/…avi-fight.html
Sengoku’s first show will be held on March 5.Naoya Kinoshita,WVR President,announced today that ex-PRIDE production team is to work on Sengoku’s stage effects.Daisuke Sato,who was a movie director of PRIDE,and Lenne Hardt, are also included in the staff.Sengoku wants to take over worldview of PRIDE.
participating fighters:
Hidehiko Yoshida
Makoto Takimoto
Sanae Kikuta
Akira Kawamura
Evangelista Cyborg
Siyar Bahadurzada
http://www.sengoku-official.com/pc/
Sounds good to me….I am a huge fan of Japanease mma and a even bigger fan of the Pride production team
Chuck gave 100% and dismantled Wandy for 3 rounds. Chuck gets a bad rap for being 1 dimensional, and all of a sudden works takedowns into his gameplan. And that cheapens his performance somehow? Sorry, no.
It was a great fight, and Wandy’s face looked like it had been punched alot. If Wanderlei didn’t mix it up more, that’s his fault.
I understand the ufc owes tito alot for hepling get the sport on the map but would anyone rather see Machida vs tito? Or Machida vs Liddell? the Liddell fight would be an awsome fight. Both good counter punchers. I’d like to see chuck try and take down machida! I think machida can defintely hang with chuck on the feet and could take chuck down if he wanted. Whatever happened to chuck saying he would ko whoever the ufc put in front of him?
Weak!
[quote comment=”260615″]Eddie Sanchez vs. Cro Cop 2 (possibly)…I hope not.
Eddie said in his post interview that he wants Mirko…
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Vide….home&gid=9391/quote
Let’s Hope Not. Eddie’s last fight was a sleeper, and Cro Cop has nothing to gain beating up on him again.
Cro Cop V. Winner of Mir/Lesnar is the fight i would like to see.
Eddie can fight Paul Buentello ( I would love him back in the UFC. Not the greatest fighter, but always willing to get after it).
I don’t know why everyone is making a big deal about the takedowns. All they were was like when Koscheck took Diego down at the end of the first round of their fight. There is no time to get out of it and no time to pass guard. To me it’s almost like a sucker punch just to get some sneaky points. It’s not like he’s looking to finish a fight with a 10 seconds to go takedown
machida vs jardine.
Evans vs T.Silva.
these are realistic. i think Lyoto and Chuck should meet with another win by both.
i just hope they don’t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.
off the subject, here sherdogs pound for pound list
1) Anderson Silva (20-4)
After a career of appearing on pound-for-pound lists before being unceremoniously evacuated, Silva has put together the most impressive streak of his career during a period of monumental upset and inactivity. The only blemish on Silva’s record in his last nine fights is his infamous disqualification loss to Yushin Okami (Pictures), but that doesn’t prevent the 32 year old from to taking the top spot. Beyond that mishap, he’s steamrolled his competition. Moreover, three of his last four wins have come against firmly entrenched, high-standing top-10 fighters. The toughest test of Silva’s UFC middleweight reign will come in March when the Brazilian faces the last man to hold the PRIDE 183-pound title, Dan Henderson (Pictures).
2) Quinton Jackson (Pictures) (29-6)
Let there be no mistake, there is certainly a case for putting “Rampage” atop this list. Jackson, alongside Silva, seems to be the only top fighter beating other top fighters in a stretch of upsets and inactivity. His back-to-back wins over Chuck Liddell (Pictures) and Dan Henderson (Pictures) are certainly sterling. However, “Rampage” has the potential to strengthen his pound-for-pound status more than any other fighter because a steady crop of elite light heavyweights appear to be coming down the pipeline for him. Having nursed an injured hand, the 28-year-old Jackson returns to the limelight when he acts as coach on season seven of “The Ultimate Fighter,” after which he’ll defend his UFC light heavyweight belt against Forrest Griffin (Pictures).
3) Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) (27-1, 1 NC)
Mixed martial arts’ most enduring pound-for-pound figure remains in the third spot. Nothing’s changed for “The Last Emperor,” except for the only real crucial aspect to this list: fighting solid competition. While Emelianenko’s second win over Nogueira and his triumph over “Cro Cop” are not ancient history, his only remotely meritorious heavyweight victory in the last two years was over Mark Hunt (Pictures). A New Year’s Eve submission victory over Hong Man Choi (Pictures) did nothing to deter detractors who claim Fedor’s status is based on less than stellar competition. The 31-year-old Russian heavyweight king must get back to fighting competitive bouts, otherwise he could squander all that he worked for over the years.
4) Georges St. Pierre (Pictures) (15-2)
Absent from these rankings due to his stunning loss last April to Matt Serra (Pictures), the 26-year-old French-Canadian jumps into the fourth spot due to his impressive submission over Matt Hughes (Pictures) and the fact that he basically cleaned out the welterweight division over the past two years. If he can avenge his loss to Serra this coming April in his home city of Montreal, St. Pierre — the No. 1 ranked welterweight — St. Pierre could be considered the most dominant fighter in MMA. If he defeats Serra, a fight with Jon Fitch (Pictures) could materialize in the latter half of 2008.
5) Dan Henderson (Pictures) (22-6)
One of the most recognizable fighters with dual-divisional clout, the 37-year-old former Olympian had repeatedly told Zuffa that he didn’t favor a drop to the 185-pound class. Although additional wins at 205 pounds would have only enhanced the Team Quest Temecula leader’s pound-for-pound stock, his decision to fight at middleweight could produce one of the best fights of 2008 when he takes on “The Spider” Silva. A win could see him replace Silva atop the rankings.
6) Takanori Gomi (Pictures) (27-3, 1 no-decision)
For all his warts, “The Fireball Kid” is the most accomplished lightweight this young sport has seen. While Gomi’s unrequited losses to Joachim Hansen (Pictures), B.J. Penn (Pictures) and Nick Diaz (Pictures) tend to stick out like a sore thumb, he has endured at the upper echelon of his division for seven years with heaps and heaps of top wins. Only time will tell whether the 29-year-old lightweight can continue to accrue those wins in his future home, wherever it is.
7) Shinya Aoki (Pictures) (12-2)
Aoki has solid wins in two weight classes that, at least for now, earn him a pound-for-pound ranking. As the sport trudges onward, though, it is imperative that the 24-year-old submission wizard gets back into action against top opposition. His return to MMA on New Year’s Eve was tougher than expected. Fighting South Korean judo Olympic medalist Bu Kyung Jung (Pictures), who replaced Gesias Calvancante (Pictures) on a week’s notice, Aoki was nearly submitted twice before finding his rhythm and pulling out a decision victory against the MMA newcomer.
“The California Kid” needed a big win to gain the No. 1 spot at 145 pounds, and he did so with a decisive stoppage over veteran Jeff Curran (Pictures) in early December. That effort combined with his penchant for putting away opponents and an impressive overall record puts Faber, 28, in the Sherdog P4P for the first time. The featherweight buzzsaw will likely get a crack at former UFC lightweight champion Jens Pulver (Pictures) in his next WEC title defense.
9) Norifumi Yamamoto (Pictures) (17-1, 1 NC)
After establishing himself as a top featherweight, “KID” jumped to K-1 three years ago and moved up to lightweight for payday purposes. Along the way he happened to become a superstar in Japan, where he picked up some solid wins. Now, following his failed bid to qualify for the 2008 Beijing Games as a wrestler, Yamamoto is back in MMA. The 30-year-old fighter stopped Rani Yahya (Pictures) on New Year’s Eve, showing once again how explosive he can be. Fighting at more natural weight now (near 135 pounds), Yamamoto could be a quick riser on this list if he is matched with quality opposition.
10) Randy Couture (Pictures) (16-8)
It was a team effort for “The Natural” to fill the final spot. Couture’s disciple Forrest Griffin (Pictures) completed the enormous task of knocking off high-standing pound-for-pounder Mauricio “Shogun” Rua in the Brazilian’s UFC debut. As a result, Couture’s two fantastic wins over Gabriel Gonzaga (Pictures) and Tim Sylvia (Pictures) in 2007 see him slide in the back door of the list. At the age of 44, Couture won’t be able to climb the pound-for-pound ranks for long. However, the MMA icon could rocket up the ladder with an epic bout against Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures). His fighting status in limbo, though, Couture may never get that opportunity.
UFC 81 Nate Marquardt vs. Jeremy Horn
jeremy horn to face nate marquart at ufc 81 according to ufc.com.
[quote comment=”260671″]jeremy horn to face nate marquart at ufc 81 according to ufc.com.[/quote]
horn is always down to step in.
For all you that didn’t respect Chucks takedowns… WTF.. MMA = Mixed Martial Arts! If you want to watch pure brawls without strategy go to You Tube and watch Felony Fights.
So he shot a few takedowns… it made him look more dominant in case it went to a decision. Fuckin’ Smart’!
i think it makes for an interesting fight.
[quote comment=”260577″][quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.[/quote]
dude after a 3round war where he could of possibly gotten KOed hell why not get a take down at the end with a few seconds remaining just to cruise to a win, shit can you really talk crap about a gameplan like that, HELL NO!!!! aint nobody gonna hate on Chuck because he traded blows for 14 minutes and 40 seconds and cruised it out for like 15 seconds come on…
[quote comment=”260677″]For all you that didn’t respect Chucks takedowns… WTF.. MMA = Mixed Martial Arts! If you want to watch pure brawls without strategy go to You Tube and watch Felony Fights.
So he shot a few takedowns… it made him look more dominant in case it went to a decision. Fuckin’ Smart’![/quote]
exactly, you know what i didnt want to be disrespectfull but damn anybody that talks shit about chuck taking the fight to the mat because first all we hear is chuck and his knock out blah blah, then he comes out uses his kicks, his good foot work, great combination with punches, a well placed spinning back fist, and 2 takedowns. and now he is not worthy because he didnt pass guard!!, i bet you if in chucks next fight he submitts a guy they will still talk shit like oh he was scared to bang fuck theres no ending with you haters
[quote comment=”260646″]machida vs jardine.
Evans vs T.Silva.
these are realistic.
i think Lyoto and Chuck should meet with another win by both.[/quote]
I agree. I thought maybe a TUF 2 rematch Evans vs. Jardine, and I know the UFC really don’t match up Brazilians against each other, be both styles are so similar. By the time this happens, then the Forrest vs Rampage fight will happen, and that would be for #1 contender. Chuck vs Jardine rematch, I don’t see that happening next for Chuck. It would be a step down for Jardine and he won’t benefit with another win. Maybe if he wins the title? Tito vs Shogun or Wandy, I want to see Bonnar vs. Houston, but I guess Bonnar is slated against Hamil, should be a good one too.
I cant believe some of the bloggers on here, some people are never happy! it was a great fight lets leave it at that. The fight was worth the entrance fee alone.
[quote comment=”260769″]I cant believe some of the bloggers on here, some people are never happy! it was a great fight lets leave it at that. The fight was worth the entrance fee alone.[/quote]
well said
[quote comment=”260769″]I cant believe some of the bloggers on here, some people are never happy! it was a great fight lets leave it at that. The fight was worth the entrance fee alone.[/quote]
Agreed. In fact, not having seen Silva fight in quite a while, I was shocked to see him take some of those combos from Chuck and keep coming. You know who Chuck knocks out with those shots? Just about everyone else in the LHW division.
Finally, someone has actually come out and spoken about Machida. A top contender I mean.
The top guys must be looking at this bloke and shitting themselves. You can not hit him, he is getting more confident (even to the point where he cracked a few jokes after his last fight against Thierry) and he will get more agressive.
For me, there are 6 people in the running for the belt this half of 2008.
Rampage & Forrest, Chuch & Machida, Jardine & Thiago Silva.
After the first two, the UFC need to shuffle them around and organise the title bouts.
Obviously, we still have Shogun to come back, Wanderlei, Tito etc
There’s no doubt that Machida is up there, but versus Chuck? cmo’n…that would be one of the most boring fights in UFC history. Who was the genius that said, “both good counterpunchers” and thinks that would make a good fight? what are you smokin?
Machida should fight Jardine or Shogun. IMO, he’s still not marketable or popular enough to sell a fight.
If fans demanded Machida vs. Chuck now would be the only time to do it because they are still both undercard fighters doing 3 round bouts. If that were a main event, and god forbid 5 rounds long, it could be the worst snore-fest ever.
Hector, I agree. Chuck did great. What is with all these critics. Get into reality people. Every fight is different, even if the same people fought everyday for a month. It is what it is and Chuck dominated. End of story. So what if it didn’t go exactly like these Monday am. quarterbacks would have liked. This is UFC not Superman or Batman. Get real people.
[quote comment=”260601″][quote comment=”260589″][quote comment=”260577″][quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.[/quote]
I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.
It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like “the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.”
If that’s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?
I don’t care that he did. Whatever.
But what he says and what he does don’t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that’s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.[/quote]
I would have to agree[/quote]
john you are very wrong, chuck has done a great job,ofcourse that take down from chuck maybe to avoid being KO’ed by Silva is one of the reason. so is it not good idea for you?
it is one chuck strategy,before many people are saying chuck is one dimensional,but now he’s extended his game,he’s still been critizize?chuck’s take down is no randy couture so you cant expect chuck to do what couture does
if you want to watch a full banging fighter w/no technique you can watch tank abot,kimbo,bobsapp & not w/these professional mma fighters
[quote comment=”260752″][quote comment=”260677″]For all you that didn’t respect Chucks takedowns… WTF.. MMA = Mixed Martial Arts! If you want to watch pure brawls without strategy go to You Tube and watch Felony Fights.
So he shot a few takedowns… it made him look more dominant in case it went to a decision. Fuckin’ Smart’![/quote]
exactly, you know what i didnt want to be disrespectfull but damn anybody that talks shit about chuck taking the fight to the mat because first all we hear is chuck and his knock out blah blah, then he comes out uses his kicks, his good foot work, great combination with punches, a well placed spinning back fist, and 2 takedowns. and now he is not worthy because he didnt pass guard!!,
i bet you if in chucks next fight he submitts a guy they will still talk shit like oh he was scared to bang fuck theres no ending with you haters[/quote]
i a gree w/you,maybe these guys dont enjoy watching an fight w/a gameplan or technique, maybe theri idol is tank aboot, kimbo,& bob sapp
Met Chuck at the san diego charger playoff game. Cool dude!!!
Regardless of what people may think Chuck won the fight without the takedowns. Chuck played it smart, he knew he couldn’t knock Wandy out and both guy’s were gassing, it was the right strategical move and it it was executed to pefection, especially with a guy like Wanderlei and his ability to knock people out.
I find it hilarious that the same people that say Chuck pussed out with the takedowns are the same guy’s that predicted Wanderlei would win not because he was the superior fighter, but they felt Chuck was over the hill and didn’t stand a chance in this brawl. Wandy got out maneuvered, this is chess boy’s and girl’s, not checkers!
I agree with the Chuck supporters and you’re damn right I’m a Liddell fan. Anyone who knows anything will know that it’s not always necessarily who is the better fighter as much as who is the smarter fighter and unless you truly understand MMA can you respect the true competitors. Yet even in this case, Chuck was the better fighter if you do just take the stand up game as much as we all have to agree, Wanderlei showed plenty of heart continuing to stand up and what have you. Because the bottom line is its more than who shows more heart after a point and we need to look at the bottom line. Who landed the shots and who won the fight? Regardless of how you look at it. Liddell fans or Silva fans, Liddell was in fact the smarter and better fighter any which way you look at it. Well earned victory and thank you Silva for helping make it an exciting fight.
And by the way, that take down at the end was definitely to kill the remainder of the clock but again… to say who the better fighter is you must find out who the SMARTER fighter is and that was a smart tactic on the part of a fighter (Liddell) who knew he had the fight (as far as that point) won and either way, Wandy was gassed enough to become defenseless against it and Liddell just took advantage whether or not is was to pass guard or to kill the clock. Why not? They do it in football. Regardless of how the take down was executed and for what reason, it is still a take down. Just another point for Chuck.
[quote post=”4462″]Cro Cop V. Winner of Mir/Lesnar is the fight i would like to see.[/quote]
That would be cool.
What’s with all the hating on Chuck for the TD? Hello, Randy does it all the time! Clock management is part of sports whether you like it or not. It’s about winning first, then excitement second.
[quote comment=”260649″]i just hope they don’t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]
Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.
Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated ”Rampage” and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby…at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes.
[quote comment=”261659″][quote comment=”260649″]i just hope they don’t feed chuck easy fights to get back in the hunt for the belt, he needs to fight top guys to deserve a shot at the title again,jardine sounds like the easy road for him right now he should worry about jardine later.[/quote]
Chuck should have to at least beat Machida or Thiago Silva to get a shot.[/quote]
True statement. Machida looks more and more like the front-runner these days.
[quote post=”4462″]I find it hilarious that the same people that say Chuck pussed out with the takedowns are the same guy’s that predicted Wanderlei would win not because he was the superior fighter, but they felt Chuck was over the hill and didn’t stand a chance in this brawl. Wandy got out maneuvered, this is chess boy’s and girl’s, not checkers! [/quote]
This is MMA not chess or checkers!
[quote post=”4462″]Chuck is a pussy.He used his tacedowns against a guy who beated “‘Rampage” and Hendo[something Chuck will never do],while he said he wanted to knock him down.Wandy all the way baby…at least he kept his ford for a toe to toe fight while Chucky tried to pull a Matt Hughes. [/quote]
Bullfighter 3- You are an idiot. The fight game is more than just slugging it out. Chuck shows he developed as a fighter, dominated on the fight and put the icing on the cake as well as the whole thing to bed with some takedowns. Nobody gets mad when Koscheck does this for three rounds to ink a decision, but if Chuck does this for 20 seconds, he is a “pussy”. I am not even a Chuck fan and was rooting for Wandi, but hats off to him for a dominating performance. Even Wandi gave him props. Go grow a brain and start using it before you blog next time, douchey.
January 30th 6:30PM
Meet Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell
Chuck “The Iceman” Liddell stops by the Virgin Megastore Times Square on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM to sign copies of his new book “Iceman: My Fighting Life”. Purchase Chuck’s new book beginning at 9AM on Tuesday, January 29th at the Times Square location only to receive a wristband to attend the signing on Wednesday, January 30th at 6:30PM. Time & Space are limited so please arrive early.
[quote comment=”260638″]I understand the ufc owes tito alot for hepling get the sport on the map but would anyone rather see Machida vs tito? Or Machida vs Liddell? the Liddell fight would be an awsome fight. Both good counter punchers. I’d like to see chuck try and take down machida! I think machida can defintely hang with chuck on the feet and could take chuck down if he wanted. Whatever happened to chuck saying he would ko whoever the ufc put in front of him?
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Name someone in the UFC with more KO’s than Chuck in LHW, and more exciting KO’s overall…..oh yea there arent any, shit man Chuck looks good KOing people and he even looks good when getting KO’d by Rampage!
All chuck haters stop crying and stop hating!! He dominated a slug fest for 3 rounds and seen it out with a little take down!! As if wandi was gony knock him out, he could hardly breath let alone throw a knock out punch. Grow up and respect for once
[quote comment=”260601″][quote comment=”260589″][quote comment=”260577″][quote comment=”260570″]I was glad to see Chuck use the takedown. Now his future opponents have to watch for Chucks hands and his take down which will help Chuck.[/quote]
It was nice to see Chuck try some new things, but the timings of the takedown especially the one at the end of round 3 were just gutless attempts to win the fight via decision, which did no justice to an epic War. I understand that chuck lost his last 2 fights and that a 3rd loss would be terminal to his career, but it didnt stop wanderlei from doing what he said he would do for 4 years….bang it out with chuck. If chuck is going to use takedowns, I want to see him pass guard, get a mount position….not just do it at the end of the round to keep from possibly being KO’ed.[/quote]
I agree. Chuck was in survival mode toward the end because he knew he had it wrapped up.
It pisses me off when I hear all his post-fight interviews like “the fight went the way I wanted it to, but it would have been nice to get the knockout.”
If that’s really the case then, Chuck, why were you fixed on the clock and stalling in that last round and going for takedowns?
I don’t care that he did. Whatever.
But what he says and what he does don’t jibe. Any smart fan can see right through that. And that’s just messed up. I lost some respect for him after hearing his post-fight remarks.[/quote]
I would have to agree[/quote]
horsesh** If you didn’t notice, Wandy was bleeding all over the canvass. His face was beat in. I have respect for Silva,he was barely standing when it was over. A simple jab from Chuck probably would have layed him down. Silva took more hits from Liddell than anyone I’ve personally seen. He was dominated standing up and on the ground. As far as “smart fans” go, the only thing Chuck didn’t capitalize on was the knock out. He was sharp in every other respect
I don’t know what the big deal is. Chuck stated quite clearly in his post fight interveiw, his reason for taking Wandy down. By showing you can take a guy down ,gives him more to worry about defensively and OPENS up striking opportunities. Randy was able to light Sylvia up more than AA was for this reason alone.