Fedor vs Josh Barnett??

still think randy would beat him dont know how but he would win

[quote comment=”259470″]Fedor vs Josh Barnett??[/quote]

That’s if Dana is bitch about the contract situ with Randy.

If they fight in a ring Fedor wins - if they fight in a cage Randy wins.

That’s what it will come down to.

I think his opponent will be Brad Imes. Another world class foe.

Fedor is a P!@#% He wouldn’t sign with UFC cause he’s afraid of the cage and the different aspects the cage and UFC rules bring to the fight. He’d get mashed! He jackin up his rep by not fightin under MMA’s biggest promotion. He gonna become a what could have been… to a has been.

great fight, don’t know who would win.

I think if this fight would ever happen it would be on the level on boxings mayweather vs hatton it would put MMA on the next level and put to rest the topic of what promotion is better this would seal the deal!!!!

There is no way this is going to be Randy. M-1 will try (or not) to make this happen but have a back up plan (Josh Barnett?) just in case.

BTW, lets count.
Number of fights Fedor has done or scheduled with M-1? 2
Number of fights that have taken place in Russia? 0

How will he survive if he isn’t able to earn the big money in Russia?

Ive had a lot of fun making fun of M-1, but know I’m startint to respect them a little more. I like their willingness to work with other organizations. If more organizations would do this ( Dana) then we would have clear cut champions and wouldn’t have to argue about who’s the best HW. I know its all about money, but dana himself has said in the past that he doesn’t want mma to end up like boxing. Now that there are 50 different organizations we have 50 different belts. Similar to boxing?

Fedor vs Randy, YEAH RIGHT! They really are crazy Russians if they think that they are going to make that fight happen any time soon.

I bet they will match Fedor up with Bo Cantrell.

[quote post=”4438″]If they fight in a ring Fedor wins - if they fight in a cage Randy wins.
That’s what it will come down to. [/quote]

agreed.

Reading all these Randy would win, Fedor would win , Why can’t we get this fight to take place?

I’m not a Dana basher but I seam to remember when all this started and the UFC was saying they wanted this to be the superbowl of MMA!

Last time I checked the Superbowl was played by two opposing teams from opposite sides of the river and the title changing hands (most of the time) year after year!

Please PLEASE powers that be make our (I think I speak for most of us fans here) dream fight happen… Put aside the bullshit, Randy fights one more time Fedor comes to America or better yet the UFC goes to the motherland!!!

lets see a kimbo slice vs. tank abbot vs. fedor triple threat match! And then theres no question that Fedor should retain his world number one ranking.(if you didn’t catch the sarcasm slap yourself)

Randy isn’t going to settle things with the UFC he says. Fedor is bound to have another fight before Randy’s contract expires in the UFC. Fedor’s next fight is not going to be against Rady and it won’t be with anyone in the UFC. It could be Barnett or Bo Contrell. Perhaps he will fight Kimbo Slice! That would be interesting. Still i want fedor vs. Randy. Unless Dana, the UFC and Randy have just been blwoing air Fedor’s fight in the UFC will not be Couture.

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I know its all about money, but dana himself has said in the past that he doesn’t want mma to end up like boxing. Now that there are 50 different organizations we have 50 different belts. Similar to boxing?[/quote]

The UFC has started adding to this problem as well with interim championships being created. The Hughes GSP fight could have been a 5 round fight without the need to make it for a worthless title. Problems can occur if their are two title holders in a division and they cannot agree to fight each other to unify the belts at the nearest opportunity. BJ Penn said a couple of weeks back that he wouldn’t defend the interim belt against Sherk if he beats Stevenson so if Sherk was found not guilty of steroids and as a result still champ at 155 then there would be 2 champions at Lightweight where a unifying bout might not have been made(even though BJ would probably have took the fight).
As far as championship belts in other organisations, they are not widely recognised so do not carry the same weight as a UFC championship belt even if the fighter that is champ is a top 10 fighter. Anderson Silva is still the Cage Rage(UK based MMA promotion) middleweight champion and has been since 2004 but nobody really cares. The only other belts that have real meaning are from Pride, where Rampage has been crowned the Undisputed LightHeavyweight champ after beathing Hendo and an Undisputed Middleweight belt will be at awarded at UFC 82. The only belts left from Pride are at Lightweight with Gomi and at Heavyweight with Fedor, so a fight with Randy would have a big impact and really what M-1 would love beacuse a Fedor win would not only build their brand and organistaion but mean they have the Undisputed Heavyweight Champ in all MMA.

[quote comment=”259513″][quote post=”4438″]If they fight in a ring Fedor wins - if they fight in a cage Randy wins.
That’s what it will come down to. [/quote]

agreed.[/quote]
agreed as well

I believe if everyone in the MMA community sent emails to the corporate office of Zuffa aka UFC and said that we want the fight between Fedor and Randy that they would feel the heat and look at it from a money standpoint and make it happen. It would happen in Vegas and the seats would jump to $1200 to $1500 but I think its well worth it. So lets get to craking the whip and make it happen. Heck maybe someone that knows how to build websites could register the domain “wewantrandyandfedorfight.com”. Start a major email campaign and do some press conferences to get the site name out. Someone could make some good money off the google ads and the hundreds of thousands hits. I will be sending my email this week to Zuffa. I think the more that do it will start change. All they want to do is make money off the fight so I don’t see them turning this down.

In the back of my mind I think the fight has already been planned and they are just stringing us along, but that’s another story.

Later fight fans

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I’m not a Dana basher but I seam to remember when all this started and the UFC was saying they wanted this to be the superbowl of MMA!

Last time I checked the Superbowl was played by two opposing teams from opposite sides of the river and the title changing hands (most of the time) year after year!

Please PLEASE powers that be make our (I think I speak for most of us fans here) dream fight happen… Put aside the bullshit, Randy fights one more time Fedor comes to America or better yet the UFC goes to the motherland!!![/quote]

I had the same kind of vision when Pride was purchased by the UFC, in 1 big event each weight class would have the belts unified and create undisputed champions.

[quote comment=”259492″]Ive had a lot of fun making fun of M-1, but know I’m startint to respect them a little more. I like their willingness to work with other organizations. If more organizations would do this ( Dana) then we would have clear cut champions and wouldn’t have to argue about who’s the best HW.

I know its all about money, but dana himself has said in the past that he doesn’t want mma to end up like boxing. Now that there are 50 different organizations we have 50 different belts. Similar to boxing?[/quote]

Of course they are “willing” to cooperate with other organizations! They need those organizations because they have no fighters. Dont let them fool you into being the good guy here. They have to have the other companies fighters to survive. Unfortunatly these osther organizations need M-1 also because they are looking for a money to pay the bills. No way in he## I would go into a joint venture with another production. If that would happen, you complain about the “watered” down events now, there would be no need for the best fighters to have to sign with the UFC because they could fight for organization “A” and still fight for/aginst/in the UFC against the UFC guys. All the organizations would have a piece of the pie. Bad precedent IMO to “join forces”. This would bring about cards that are headlined by a big fight then the remaining would be just like the boxing undercards…..scrubs.

[quote comment=”259505″]Fedor vs Randy, YEAH RIGHT! They really are crazy Russians if they think that they are going to make that fight happen any time soon.

I bet they will match Fedor up with Bo Cantrell.[/quote]

V1..even better..to think they can pull that fight off on American Soil..That fight if and/or when it happens..will be in Japan..or mother Russia

..it could be like Rocky ‘4 da mma/couture version..”

Reporter: When is this fight going to happen Randy?

RC: On Christmas Eve..in Russia

Reporter: why Christmas? Russia?

RC: That is what I was told

Reporter2: How much are you making for this fight?

RC: No money, it’s not about money

…later on that evening upon getting home..he gets screamed on by wifey..

Wifey: Why are you this??

RC: I’m fighter..that’s who you married..

Wifey: You seen how strong he is..you seen what he can do..you can’t win..he’s too strong..it’s suicide!!!

RC: maybe your right..but to kill me, has to stand in front and be willing to die himself..(srugs his shoulders turns around and walks out he door)

..then the base line drops…he opens the door to a half million dollar car..hits the pedal to the floor..and invisions his career thru the rear view mirror…

[quote post=”4438″]Fedor’s next fight is not going to be against Rady and it won’t be with anyone in the UFC. It could be Barnett or Bo Contrell. Perhaps he will fight Kimbo Slice! That would be interesting. [/quote]

Fedor vs Kimbo would go like this. Kimbo swings for the fences, Fedor bobs and weaves leading to an immediate takedown. Here, Kimbo looks like a fish out of water and gets an arm snapped. If Fedor had to stay standing with Kimbo, then sign me up! But, since its MMA, Fedor would want no part of the standup, where they might be about even in skill, and take him to the ground where he is light years beyond Kimbo.

I’ve been an MMa Fan for 5 strong years and i dont know about other fans but i really dont care in seeing Josh Barnett.
He was a graet competitor in his day but it’s done for him.
Y do people still talk about this guy like he’s some type of threat?

if its fedor vs barnett that will be a better fight than any h.w. fight the ufc has right now.

People who dont think fedor is the best in the world, think again. The guy is the best rounded heavy weight in the world.

As much as I like Randy, Fedor will smash him. He would outstrike, out manouver and use his own body weight against him. If it goes to the ground, Randy will be submitted, Fedor is sick off his back.

Fedor v Arlovski. Fight of the Year. (After Chuck and Wanderlei of course)

[quote comment=”259475″]If they fight in a ring Fedor wins - if they fight in a cage fedor wins.

That’s what it will come down to.[/quote]

agreed

A few possibilities: 1. Fox, jealous of NBC’s success with the new American Gladiators, rehashes Celebrity Boxing and puts Fedor in against a coked up Danny Bonaduce. 2. Fedor fights Andy Wang, who still won’t take him down, damnit! 3. Fedor vs. a paraplegic It’s his biggest challenge yet! How do you arm bar a man with no arms?

pw - think that is a quad mate, not para

The only thing stopping the Randy fight is Dana, everyone needs to get off Fedor and M1.

I know its offtopic, but I just came across a CLASSIC. Dan Henderson’s first ever MMA fight @ the Brazil Open Fight in 1997! Check out the baby-faced Hendo!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juJ-lFuvwTI&eurl=http://myvideofight.com/video/other-rings/dan-henderson-vs.-crezio-de-souza/index-3.html

The entire history of Zuffa’s UFC has been to prevent US fans from knowing about all other organizations. Making Fedor fight with anyone from UFC that will be seen on north american TV would be entirely against the history of their business doings. I really hope someone would close down Zuffa, fertitas and white so we can bring quality MMA back to USA.

fedor the patriot(do ur hw), simply will not sell out. I think its hilarious that everyone is on randy’s jock for beating tim and gonzaga. Btw, these two would be destroyed by fedor. The only compelling matchup the ufc has to offer is AA. But AA hasnt been dominating as of late so… blah. Fedor HW vs Randy LHW hmmmmm. Well lets look at their respective resumes, vital stats(yes i mean age), and tool sets. Well, fedor hasnt really been beaten(even though he got the “W” he was getting owned by arona- who isnt the same anymore nor is fedor - and his rematch with kohsaka was hysterical). The only reason people r saying randy is 1- media and 2 - lack of common sense. so anyone that beats sloth, i mean tim, and gonzaga immediately translates to being able to beat fedor regardless of retiring due to getting beaten in 2 divisions and then coming out of retirement. I think randy let the hype get to his head. maybe if he beat cc, big nog, and another prospect then fine. i must have blinders on cuz i just dont see randy beating fedor. i do want to see vitor, AA, CC, and vera on a streak though. i like the idea of fedor vs babyface. oh yea i would also like to see fedor in better shape but he’s a sleeper.

Lets get a mega fight together for Fedor.

Fedor from 2005 vs Cal Worshim from 1996.
We just need to get Monte to travel back in time and bring them together. Piece of cake for a company like M-1

Perhaps M-1 just mentioned Randy in that statement so we would discuss Fedor’s next fight. No, that would be misleading…

[quote comment=”259541″][quote post=”4438″]Fedor’s next fight is not going to be against Rady and it won’t be with anyone in the UFC. It could be Barnett or Bo Contrell. Perhaps he will fight Kimbo Slice! That would be interesting. [/quote]

Fedor vs Kimbo would go like this. Kimbo swings for the fences, Fedor bobs and weaves leading to an immediate takedown. Here, Kimbo looks like a fish out of water and gets an arm snapped. If Fedor had to stay standing with Kimbo, then sign me up! But, since its MMA, Fedor would want no part of the standup, where they might be about even in skill, and take him to the ground where he is light years beyond Kimbo.[/quote]

Even just straight up striking fedor is way beyond kimbo…i mean fedor is k1 caliber with his striking

The king is finally coming back to America. Hopefully its against Josh Barnett….it makes sense. There arent any good opponents out there for Barnett either…so match them up and let them fight. Personal opinions of barnett aside, he is a top 5 heavyweight that could easily run through 85% of the UFC Heavyweight division. If this fight were to take place and Fedo wins, that should shut people up about his ranking for a little.
The best fighters in the world:

Heavyweight: Fedor
Light Heavyweight: Rampage
Middleweight: Spider/Henderson
Welterweight: GSP
Lightweight: BJ Penn

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The best fighters in the world:
Heavyweight: Fedor
Light Heavyweight: Rampage
Middleweight: Spider/Henderson
Welterweight: GSP
Lightweight: BJ Penn
[/quote]

John, this list seems obvious to me cuz I agree completely.

Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

All the PRIDE fans can argue to their heart’s content to defend Fedor. But the past couple of months have proven that fighters from PRIDE FC (and soon to be Fedor) are simply over bloated legends created by a YAKUZA run production from Japan.

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

All the PRIDE fans can argue to their heart’s content to defend Fedor. But the past couple of months have proven that fighters from PRIDE FC (and soon to be Fedor) are simply over bloated legends created by a YAKUZA run production from Japan.[/quote]

so speaking english makes him a better fighter, and hong man would probally beat half the heavey weights in the ufc.than you say most mainstream fans don’t care about fedor to quote you the people who make ufc money, ands whos that people that barely got into mma that don’t no anything other than the ufc and quote what ever dana says as if it where fact.you keep bringing up pride and there doing fine rampage, the spider,shogun lost one fight and silva lost one fight his first fight in the ufc against there best fighter(pre rampage)cro cop lost fights but if he wants to continue he will do fine in the ufc.i could argue about fedor and other pride guys but time will tell the truth.

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.[/quote]

You are actually wrong. It is “mainstream fans” that are more likely to eat up the hype about Fedor whereas many hard-core fans are questioning his success in a cage over a ring and lack of competition.

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

All the PRIDE fans can argue to their heart’s content to defend Fedor. But the past couple of months have proven that fighters from PRIDE FC (and soon to be Fedor) are simply over bloated legends created by a YAKUZA run production from Japan.[/quote]

so speaking english makes him a better fighter, and hong man would probally beat half the heavey weights in the ufc.than you say most mainstream fans don’t care about fedor to quote you the people who make ufc money, ands whos that people that barely got into mma that don’t no anything other than the ufc and quote what ever dana says as if it where fact.you keep bringing up pride and there doing fine rampage, the spider,shogun lost one fight and silva lost one fight his first fight in the ufc against there best fighter(pre rampage)cro cop lost fights but if he wants to continue he will do fine in the ufc.i could argue about fedor and other pride guys but time will tell the truth.

[quote comment=”259585″]The entire history of Zuffa’s UFC has been to prevent US fans from knowing about all other organizations. Making Fedor fight with anyone from UFC that will be seen on north american TV would be entirely against the history of their business doings. I really hope someone would close down Zuffa, fertitas and white so we can bring quality MMA back to USA.[/quote]

You act like what the UFC is doing to its competition is nefarious. DO you and others that think what the UFC is doing is wrong, think that what Pepsi does to Coke is wrong? Nike to Reebok? Met Life to Prudential? Same thing here…business.

You say “bring back quality mma to USA”. I ask you when did the U.S have better mma than it does now?

Answer: Never!

And I personally think that what the Evil Empire is doing is solidifying the sport more so than any other time in the history of mma. There needs to be a Champ, not 5 Champs. There needs to be a premier organization, not 3 crawling over each other. There needs to be solidarity, not incoherence.

Another question: If it is so beneficial for the growth of a sport to have multiple, competing leagues why has baseball, football, and basketball thrived in a 1 league dynamical system?

I hope these guys hurry up and fight so I can stop hearing about it. Oh and now I don’t care who wins.

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

FYI, most UFC fighters haven’t done well in the ring either.
And who cares if they don’t speak a word of English?

[quote comment=”259505″]Fedor vs Randy, YEAH RIGHT! They really are crazy Russians if they think that they are going to make that fight happen any time soon.

I bet they will match Fedor up with Bo Cantrell.[/quote]
lol…that a good one.or even better the winner of tank and kimbo.i’d pay to see febor vs tank or kimbo.hell i’d even give them pretty good odds.lol

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

All the PRIDE fans can argue to their heart’s content to defend Fedor. But the past couple of months have proven that fighters from PRIDE FC (and soon to be Fedor) are simply over bloated legends created by a YAKUZA run production from Japan.[/quote]

so speaking english makes you a better fighter? and mainstream fans to quote you”the ones who make the ufc money” whos that people that just got into mma and don’t know anything other and the ufc and quote everything dana says as if it where fact.hong man would probally beat half the h.w.’s in the ufc and as far as pride being overrated you got rampage the spider shogun lost one fight and will be in the top of the lhw devision vandy lost his first fight against the ufc best fighter(pre rampage)big nog will be h.w. champ and if cro cops heart is still into fighting he will do fine in the ufc.i could argue about this but time will show the truth.

[quote comment=”259706″][quote comment=”259666″]
so speaking english makes him a better fighter, and hong man would probally beat half the heavey weights in the ufc.than you say most mainstream fans don’t care about fedor to quote you the people who make ufc money, ands whos that people that barely got into mma that don’t no anything other than the ufc and quote what ever dana says as if it where fact.you keep bringing up pride and there doing fine rampage, the spider,shogun lost one fight and silva lost one fight his first fight in the ufc against there best fighter(pre rampage)cro cop lost fights but if he wants to continue he will do fine in the ufc.i could argue about fedor and other pride guys but time will tell the truth.[/quote]

You lost all credibility when you claimed HMC was a credible MMA fighter (HAHAHA). IN FACT, HMC only had ONE (LET ME REPEAT “ONE”) MMA fight before facing Fedor. Wow, one MMA fight and you really think HMC can whoop ass in the UFC? uhhh….yeah.

Nice try. THe PRIDE glory days are over. Have fun watching those PRIDE DVD’s with all those freak shows with Butterbean, Fedor, etc.

[quote comment=”259758″][quote comment=”259666″]
FYI, most UFC fighters haven’t done well in the ring either.
And who cares if they don’t speak a word of English?[/quote]

Who cares about UFC fighters performing in a boxing ring. It’s irrelevant because PRIDE is DEAD. The UFC is the only real MMA game in town.

The English Speaking fans (you know, most of the the people who buy PPV’s and go see UFC events) can easily relate to an English speaking fighter than some imported fighter with limited English.

Why would the UFC spend millions of dollars marketing a fighter who can’t speak the world’s most popular language? They’d rather put some some glory boy as the face of the UFC (ex. Couture, Liddell) so fans easily relate to them. It makes business sense and more money can be made.

Given all the money UFC has already made, if they thought Fedor was really worth the money, they would of signed him a long time ago.

And where are all the MAINSTREAM fans demanding the UFC to make a match between Couture vs Fedor? You don’t see fans demanding a match on ESPN or on TV.

Face reality, mainstream fans don’t care about Fedor. Apart from the hardcore FAN-BOYs on these Internet Message boards, no one else really cares.

Keep crying and whining because all you Fedor fan-boys are an insignificant minority. The UFC is better off without that overrated Russian anyway.

Leroy-Leroni … you must have had a sheltered childhood and are obviously still living under some sort of rock. Clearly, you have just learnt what MMA stands for.

You sound like a redneck-racist. I guess Anderson Silva isnt worth promoting then.

You speak of maintstream, sorry MAINSTEAM, people. What do you call Randy’s constant comments and desire to fight Fedor. He is mainstream right, or glory boy as you put it, and I am sure his MAINSTREAM fans would also want to see the fight.

Go eat you BIG MAC, sip your COKE and p**s of in your NIKE’s.

MMA Weekly had this article last week and there is a hint about HDNet and M-1 putting together a fight, check it out.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5397&zoneid=13

lol u ppl still think fedor is going to fight a legitimate opponent. dreamers.

[quote comment=”259884″]Leroy-Leroni … you must have had a sheltered childhood and are obviously still living under some sort of rock. Clearly, you have just learnt what MMA stands for.

You sound like a redneck-racist. I guess Anderson Silva isnt worth promoting then.

You speak of maintstream, sorry MAINSTEAM, people. What do you call Randy’s constant comments and desire to fight Fedor. He is mainstream right, or glory boy as you put it, and I am sure his MAINSTREAM fans would also want to see the fight.

Go eat you BIG MAC, sip your COKE and p**s of in your NIKE’s.[/quote]

MMA means “mixed martial arts”, a sport. MMA is not a freak show or WWE sideshow, like PRIDE FC, K-1, YARENOKA or whatever those promoters in Japan can elevate (ie. Fedor, Bob Sapp, Butterbean, HMC).

Did any of those mainstream fans care about Randy’s Comment about fighting Fedor? Umm..no. No one cares or really knows about Fedor. The UFC will move one and make money without the overrated fighter from Russia.

Like every fighter, Fedor will eventually get old and hold on to his Glory days in Pride, where Steroid testing did not exist and midgets ran the show.

And yes, these very same mainstream fans from the UFC eat BIG MACs, Drink their Coca-Cola’s and wear their lovely NIKE Air-Jordans. That’s reality fan-boy. They’re the one’s who put money into the UFC. Money talks…

[quote post=”4438″]The entire history of Zuffa’s UFC has been to prevent US fans from knowing about all other organizations. Making Fedor fight with anyone from UFC that will be seen on north american TV would be entirely against the history of their business doings. I really hope someone would close down Zuffa, fertitas and white so we can bring quality MMA back to USA.[/quote]

You could be right, but what you’re suggesting is nothing more than simple free market economics. Should Zuffa support other outfits? Sports and the rest of mass media entertainment is becoming less defined by traditional boundaries. Up until recently, both Dreamstage and FEG made only laughably pathetic attempts to court US markets with shit shows like PRIDE 34 and K-1 Dynamite USA. Yawn.

If Zuffa has the resources to dominate the market, is that their fault? Should they mollycoddle other outfits, should Zuffa crush them, or should Zuffa only go for business deals that would mean the best for Zuffa? I think the answer to that one is obvious. Dana White may be an egotistical bastard with questionable ethics, but at least Zuffa isn’t rumored to have ties to organized crime like Dreamstage.

And I certainly hope you’re doing your research on Zuffa. You’re obviously including the Gracie clan in your screen against Zuffa. You obviously have a bone to pick with Rorion Gracie and Helio Gracie as well, right? Or are you just misinformed? Which is it, buddy?

[quote post=”4438″]fedor the patriot(do ur hw), simply will not sell out. I think its hilarious that everyone is on randy’s jock for beating tim and gonzaga. Btw, these two would be destroyed by fedor. The only compelling matchup the ufc has to offer is AA. But AA hasnt been dominating as of late so… blah. Fedor HW vs Randy LHW hmmmmm. Well lets look at their respective resumes, vital stats(yes i mean age), and tool sets. Well, fedor hasnt really been beaten(even though he got the “W” he was getting owned by arona- who isnt the same anymore nor is fedor - and his rematch with kohsaka was hysterical). The only reason people r saying randy is 1- media and 2 - lack of common sense. so anyone that beats sloth, i mean tim, and gonzaga immediately translates to being able to beat fedor regardless of retiring due to getting beaten in 2 divisions and then coming out of retirement. I think randy let the hype get to his head. maybe if he beat cc, big nog, and another prospect then fine. i must have blinders on cuz i just dont see randy beating fedor. i do want to see vitor, AA, CC, and vera on a streak though. i like the idea of fedor vs babyface. oh yea i would also like to see fedor in better shape but he’s a sleeper. [/quote]
So beating Tim and GG is no big deal, Yet if he beat CC that would mean something. After watching these fights and comparing styles , it doesn’t take a genious to see that Randy would more than likely maul CC in the 1st round. CC is already on a streak (losing streak). Randy HW at 228 lbs RIPPED vs Fedor HW 230 lbs fat Hmmmmm. We don’t know that Tim and GG would get destroyed by Fedor. What we do know is that some of Fedor’s toughest opponents that took him to a decision, are getting OWNED in the UFC by LESSER opponents than Randy. Fedor has never fought anyone as good as Randy and when Tim finishes Nog maybe you will see what I’m saying. CC and Nog were Fedor’s toughest fights and we already know that CC is no where near as good as the top 5 UFC HWs. If Nog runs through the HW div. then that says something about how good Fedor is , but if he goes down like CC, that says that Fedor could only beat these second teir fighters by a decision and if he came to the UFC he would more than likely lose. To think Randy would beat Fedor is not a lack of common sense , It’s objective analisis. To think beating Sylvia and GG is not an impressive feat, now that is a lack of common MMA sense, because these 2 are beasts that very few have beat and very few will.

HDNet should be involved…

Fedor does speak SOME English…

Leroy-Leroni…wow dude…just, wow…it’s a good thing YOU are here to expose Fedor as a fraud/freak show. I guess all these dudes were duped too…

Fedor is the best P4P fighter in the world
-Randy Couture, UFC HW Champion

Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from bj Penn, those 2 are the best fighters in the world.
-Rampage Jackson, UFC LHW Champion

Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko.
— Bas Rutten, former king of Pancrese and UFC HW Champion FSN

As far as Fedor, I think that guy is the baddest motherfucker on the planet, that guy’s a savage. He’s one of those rare HW’s that’s dangerous on all positions….His submissions are nasty…he can fuck you up from any position.
-Joe Rogan, UFC commentator and BJJ brown belt

NOBODY wants to fight fedor
-Wanderlei Silva, former Pride MW Champion and GP winner

Our great champion, he is the BEST in the world.
-Josh Barnett, former UFC HW Champion and adcc Champion

He hasn’t really ever lost and he’s pound-for-pound the best fighter.
-Jeff Monson, ADCC Submission Wrestling World Champion

Probably the best ever lived….he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world
—Diego Sanchez, hooterandgreenway radio show

Fedor is my favorite
-BJ Penn, former UFC Welterweight Champion and BJJworld Champion, NWFS 7/9/06

Fedor is just too dominant, too good at punching people in the face. The way he punches people man he’s trying to kill people, with both hands. He’s in a whole different class by himself.
-Brandon Vera

He is the BEST
-Mark Coleman, former UFC HW Champion and Pride GP Champion

“…and obviously Fedor”
-Dana White, UFC President on who the best fighter is

“It’s between Fedor and my wife”
-Gary Shaw, Elite XC President on who the best fighter is

The best in the world, no doubt
-Phil Baroni

Look, I’ve fought many people from around the world, so I’ve seen many strong fighters. But like him, never
-Renato Sobral

Fedor would be absolutely great in K-1
-Ernesto Hoost, 4-time K-1 World Champion

Fedor is the most incredible fighter you’ll ever see
-Frank Trigg

Fedor is pound-for-pound best in the world
-Shamada (Pride referee)

The best fighter to climb into ANY areana is Emelianenko Fedor. He is in his own league and you can’t compare nobody.
-Kevin Randleman, former UFC HW Champion

He is the best and undefeated… His striking game and his ground game is the best, so that’s why he is the best… He is the shit
-Mark Hunt, K-1 World Champion

He’s the total package; looks can be deceiving. He’s incredibly strong, his hips are amazing, probably his best asset. Hard to hold down, hard to do anything with the guy………shit he’s just the best, that’s why he’s the best. He gets in position to throw the big bombs, he throws just as hard on the ground as he does on the feet. That’s why he’s the world Champion.
— Mark Coleman, former UFC Champion and GP winner

He’s the fastest I’ve ever seen. Much faster than Mirko. And he’s got a great reaction. Technically he may not have such a big advantage, but physically he is the fastest heavy guy in MMA history. He tries a punch, misses it, then immediately shoots again, Cro Cop for example didn’t even see them coming. He must practise that a lot, because it’s not easy to improvise that kind of thing. He is really with a good combination of styles, he can go from one art to the other, that’s what makes him different.
— Antonio Rodorigo Nogueira, former Pride Champion

He has a fast eye, good for counter-attacking. And in every fight he shows up with something new under his sleeve. Against Filipovic he used a great clinch-strike combo: he’d go for the uchi-mata, quickly following with a powerful hook.
- Pedro Rizzo

Some of you dont realise how good Fedor is…. he has fought every kind of style out there and beatin them all… no1 else has ever and will never do that.

Hankd - thankyou.

Leroy-Leroni - please stop typing, please. You are not making any sense and are showing everyone on this site you know sweat f**k all about MMA.

Seriously mate, you are an absolute wanker.

[quote comment=”259846″][quote comment=”259758″][quote comment=”259666″]
FYI, most UFC fighters haven’t done well in the ring either.
And who cares if they don’t speak a word of English?[/quote]

Who cares about UFC fighters performing in a boxing ring.

It’s irrelevant because PRIDE is DEAD. The UFC is the only real MMA game in town.

The English Speaking fans (you know, most of the the people who buy PPV’s and go see UFC events) can easily relate to an English speaking fighter than some imported fighter with limited English.

Why would the UFC spend millions of dollars marketing a fighter who can’t speak the world’s most popular language? They’d rather put some some glory boy as the face of the UFC (ex. Couture, Liddell) so fans easily relate to them. It makes business sense and more money can be made.

Given all the money UFC has already made, if they thought Fedor was really worth the money, they would of signed him a long time ago.

And where are all the MAINSTREAM fans demanding the UFC to make a match between Couture vs Fedor? You don’t see fans demanding a match on ESPN or on TV.

Face reality, mainstream fans don’t care about Fedor. Apart from the hardcore FAN-BOYs on these Internet Message boards, no one else really cares.

Keep crying and whining because all you Fedor fan-boys are an insignificant minority. The UFC is better off without that overrated Russian anyway.[/quote]

TROLL!!!

[quote comment=”259991″]Hankd - thankyou.

Leroy-Leroni - please stop typing, please. You are not making any sense and are showing everyone on this site you know sweat f**k all about MMA.

Seriously mate, you are an absolute wanker.[/quote]

OK Fan[quote comment=”259972″]HDNet should be involved…

Fedor does speak SOME English…
Leroy-Leroni…wow dude…just, wow…it’s a good thing YOU are here to expose Fedor as a fraud/freak show. I guess all these dudes were duped too…
[/quote]

Don’t waste your time with those quotes about FEDOR. Any fighter who’s made a name for themselves in Pride is a big question mark these days.

Before PRIDE destroyed itself (as a money laundering front for the Japanese mob), all the PRIDE fan-boys out there would claim about the superior PRIDE fighters, superior WWE theatrics in PRIDE, and overall quality of a PRIDE freak-show.

Unfortunately, reality has hit you all in the face with the ass whooping your PRIDE idols got in the UFC.

Losses don’t lie, so suck it up and take it like a man. Fedor and like most Pride imports are way overrated. They’re a by-product of hype shoved down your throat by the dead Japanese organization. Did they even test for steroids in Japan? Obviously not.

Only RAMPAGE is impressive out of all the Pride imports who’ve arrived in the octagon. Noqueira barely got through Heath. Cro-cop is fighting like a true fighter without steroids. And the rest of them have big fat Losses to their records.

After the lack of success for most PRIDE fighters in the UFC, it’s pretty obvious they’re not the superheros you fan-boys claimed to be! The losses don’t lie. The same will probably happen to that Russian Buffoon if he ever fought in the octagon.

I know all the fan-boys will continue to defend FEDOR & his PRIDE glory days till their red in the face. So keep up the arguments because those Glory days is all you’re holding onto if Fedor continues to fight “CANS” like HMC and other questionable fighters.

“If they fight in a ring Fedor wins - if they fight in a cage Randy wins.”

Your 100% right.. BUT on the other hand.. samba is the counter style of grecro romin wrestling… so coutour would’ tbe able to pin him up against a cage either way because fedor is world class samabo…….

BS…propaganda.

[quote comment=”259633″]The king is finally coming back to America. Hopefully its against Josh Barnett….it makes sense. There arent any good opponents out there for Barnett either…so match them up and let them fight. Personal opinions of barnett aside, he is a top 5 heavyweight that could easily run through 85% of the UFC Heavyweight division. If this fight were to take place and Fedo wins, that should shut people up about his ranking for a little.
The best fighters in the world:

Heavyweight: Fedor
Light Heavyweight: Rampage
Middleweight: Spider/Henderson
Welterweight: GSP
Lightweight: BJ Penn[/quote]

Welterweight: GSP/BJ Penn
Lightweight: BJ Penn

63rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cant wait.

[quote comment=”259666″]Who’s Fedor? Apart from your hard-core fan base, most mainstream fans (the real people who make money for the UFC) could care less about some over-rated fighter who can barely speak English.

Fedor hasn’t fought a credible opponent in years! Fighting a freak or can, like Hong Man Choi, doesn’t reinforce his reputation as the world’s so-called best fighter.

So what if he steamrolled his way through Japan. Apart from Rampage, most the PRIDE FC fighters, including Fedor are way overrated.

Since the UFC bought PRIDE, most PRIDE fighters haven’t done so well in the octagon. The results speak for themselves:

Cro-cop has lost his last two fights in the UFC
Shogun got his ass kicked by Griffin
Silva lost to Liddell
and the list continues…

All the PRIDE fans can argue to their heart’s content to defend Fedor. But the past couple of months have proven that fighters from PRIDE FC (and soon to be Fedor) are simply over bloated legends created by a YAKUZA run production from Japan.[/quote]

Wow theres a lot of hate for what you’ve said on here… i’ve got your back tho.

Every pride fighter comes over under a wave of hype and publicity that they are the ‘baddest man in the division’ and most have dissapointed.

I’ve put in my research by watching the old pride fights on DVD and the net and agree a lot of perfomances over there were impressive. But put these fighters in a cage, against top tier opponants under the lights of the UFC and the true colors are revealed.

Shogun… i know one fight does not make someone sh*t but the manner in which he lost to a reality tv winner was embarrassing. A lot of what is being said on here about Fedor people were saying about shogun.

Big Nog… Looked 2nd rate against Herring, think even Timmy will have his number.

Wanderlei… I love this dude but a lot of his big highlights in Pride are against cans. He looked like a fish out of water with Chuck.

Cro cop… Do i need to comment? Cast you mind back to how much hype there was around him when he was signed.

I’d like to see Gomi come in and fight a Sherk or Guida and see how he copes. If he wins then give him the Penn rematch.

Fedor is a different thing all together but to be fair for him to be considered a true legend he should have put his hand up and said “i want to fight the best the world has to offer” and come to the UFC.

OHHHHHH…….whos fedors next opponent….ummmmmmmm.lets see…the karate kid…no…..ummmmm…van damn….no……ummmmm…..yes steven segull.is the proper opponent for him…fedor is a b.u.m.!!!!! hes always finding ways to dodge good competition.

[quote comment=”259550″]I’ve been an MMa Fan for 5 strong years and i dont know about other fans but i really dont care in seeing Josh Barnett.
He was a graet competitor in his day but it’s done for him.
Y do people still talk about this guy like he’s some type of threat?[/quote]

I am suprised that someone who’s been an MMA fan for a while could so easily dismiss Barnett as not being a threat. The guy is the full package and has been one of my favourite fighters for years. He is without doubt one of the best submission heavyweights out there at least top four, definately much better than Mir. He has standup an excellent ground game. The guy can take a heap of punishment and still manage to sink in his submissions. The only fighter to give him reall problems was Cro Cop and that was it. Randy fighting Barnett is the next best thing to Randy fighting Fedor as far as I concerned, but I think Barnett would take him. Randy is one of my favourites also, but I do not see any area where he is more skillful or at an advantage with Barnett, Barnett is like a better version of him, if you can get such a thing,Barnett has the extra strength and his submissions. If Barnett’s lack of competition was not a factor if they were to fight, then I could see this ending the same way there last fight did, steroid free of course. With Dana playing god though, with Barnett and Lindland, real fans who want to see the best fighting the best are missing out, that’s why I do not have a problem other organisations like M1 operating, because if Dana does not like someone these are the only places you will be able to see these other fighters in action.

Ok, hopefully this is the last post on this topic.

Here’s how the Fedor/Randy fight can happen. Fedor must get loaned to the UFC since Dana will only want Randy fighting in an octagon. Dana will not want to help M-1 gain capital or legitimacy so make the match proceeds go to charity.

Then we will really see who wants to fight for glory and who wants to just earn their paycheck.

leroy leroni, r u dana white in disguise?

[quote post=”4438″]Shogun… i know one fight does not make someone sh*t but the manner in which he lost to a reality tv winner was embarrassing. A lot of what is being said on here about Fedor people were saying about shogun.

Big Nog… Looked 2nd rate against Herring, think even Timmy will have his number.

Wanderlei… I love this dude but a lot of his big highlights in Pride are against cans. He looked like a fish out of water with Chuck.[/quote]

Let’s not write-off Shogun…he fought with an injured knee. THAT was not Shogun as we know him.

Big Nog dominated Herring, who is a game opponent, for 14 1/2 minutes. How did he look 2nd rate?

Wanderlei put on a show…how did he look like a fish out of water?

weems!

barnett is a bad ass, top 5 h.w. for sure.

Barnett is a decent fighter for sure. Crocop has his number though.

As for Fedor vs Randy… no chance. But Randy would ass whip Fedor cage OR ring. Even Big boring Tim would jab a boring victory against him.

[quote comment=”259539″][quote comment=”259492″]Ive had a lot of fun making fun of M-1, but know I’m startint to respect them a little more. I like their willingness to work with other organizations. If more organizations would do this ( Dana) then we would have clear cut champions and wouldn’t have to argue about who’s the best HW.

I know its all about money, but dana himself has said in the past that he doesn’t want mma to end up like boxing. Now that there are 50 different organizations we have 50 different belts. Similar to boxing?[/quote]

Of course they are “willing” to cooperate with other organizations! They need those organizations because they have no fighters. Dont let them fool you into being the good guy here. They have to have the other companies fighters to survive. Unfortunatly these osther organizations need M-1 also because they are looking for a money to pay the bills. No way in he## I would go into a joint venture with another production. If that would happen, you complain about the “watered” down events now, there would be no need for the best fighters to have to sign with the UFC because they could fight for organization “A” and still fight for/aginst/in the UFC against the UFC guys. All the organizations would have a piece of the pie. Bad precedent IMO to “join forces”. This would bring about cards that are headlined by a big fight then the remaining would be just like the boxing undercards…..scrubs.[/quote]

I have to agree. These other organizations will put together hundreds of mediocre fighters and 1 or 2 headliners. It’s going to come down to money, it always does. Everyone knows that “contract disputes” means money, “Respect” means money and thats what it will take to get Fedor or any other fighter in the future. Watering down the UFC with bush league organizations is not the answer.

[quote comment=”260972″][quote comment=”259539″][quote comment=”259492″]Ive had a lot of fun making fun of M-1, but know I’m startint to respect them a little more. I like their willingness to work with other organizations. If more organizations would do this ( Dana) then we would have clear cut champions and wouldn’t have to argue about who’s the best HW.

I know its all about money, but dana himself has said in the past that he doesn’t want mma to end up like boxing. Now that there are 50 different organizations we have 50 different belts. Similar to boxing?[/quote]

Of course they are “willing” to cooperate with other organizations! They need those organizations because they have no fighters. Dont let them fool you into being the good guy here. They have to have the other companies fighters to survive. Unfortunatly these osther organizations need M-1 also because they are looking for a money to pay the bills. No way in he## I would go into a joint venture with another production. If that would happen, you complain about the “watered” down events now, there would be no need for the best fighters to have to sign with the UFC because they could fight for organization “A” and still fight for/aginst/in the UFC against the UFC guys. All the organizations would have a piece of the pie. Bad precedent IMO to “join forces”. This would bring about cards that are headlined by a big fight then the remaining would be just like the boxing undercards…..scrubs.[/quote]

I have to agree. These other organizations will put together hundreds of mediocre fighters and 1 or 2 headliners. It’s going to come down to money, it always does. Everyone knows that “contract disputes” means money, “Respect” means money and thats what it will take to get Fedor or any other fighter in the future. Watering down the UFC with bush league organizations is not the answer.[/quote]

the ufc has most of the best fighters but where are the great cards you say medicore organizations watering down the ufc and putting on 1-2 headliners thats what the ufc does, all these great fighters but they only give you one or two of them then fill there cards with tuf or worse fighters. at least in pride you would have cards with all the great fighters in one show.