[quote post="4419"]Interesting that the interim heavyweight title fight between Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Tim Sylvia appears to be playing second fiddle in the promos … at least for now[/quote]
imo.. its because people hate tim silvia…lol.and ufc dont wanna see randy leave

No way that I am gonna keep ordering these declining UFC pay per views. The next event I order is UFC 82 Pride of a chiampion.
This is all comming from a man who has ordered every single UFC event in the last 3 or 4 years. Sorry but I am not buying Mir (a former shell of himself) vs. Brock (who is 1,0) as a co main event. Sorry but I aint no sucker WWE fan……feed this crap to someone that doesn’t no better, but I aint the one.

john relax buddy. This is the chance to see the rise of the next UFC HW Champ. I hope that class could use some spark!!!

[quote comment="258153"]No way that I am gonna keep ordering these declining UFC pay per views. The next event I order is UFC 82 Pride of a chiampion.
This is all comming from a man who has ordered every single UFC event in the last 3 or 4 years. Sorry but I am not buying Mir (a former shell of himself) vs. Brock (who is 1,0) as a co main event. Sorry but I aint no sucker WWE fan……feed this crap to someone that doesn’t no better, but I aint the one.[/quote]

True Story..I’m border lined to get ufc80 even though it’s dudu..at 3pm on Jan 19..depends on how i feel that afternoon…but for ufc to give on SuperBowl weekend Tim and Brock as co main events..is insulting to us fans. Like mania’s commentary brass VM/John and few more know..if anything Brock vs Mir should be the first televised match of ufc 81..not a featured co main event..45$ for that..yeah sure.

man the music for that site has got to go.

Definitely NOT one of the best-designed event sites… This probably says something about the weight of the over all event itself. Will not be ordering, saving it for 82!

I agree with John but it starts with UFC 80. How is Werdum/Gonzaga a co main event? Arlovski got critized for having a boring fight but Werdum was the loser of that fight and now Dana White builds this as the winner being one of the top heavy weight contenders?? AA has been overlooked again and these pay per views are declining.

HAHA did they REALLY put “Mir… Former UFC Heavyweight Champion”… “Brock Lesner… Former WWE Champion”… Former WWE? WWE is Sports Entertainment… ENTERTAINMENT! Thats so embarrassing. Had to put something I guess right? WRONG! Are they kidding? I thought I was watching a Royal Rumble Promo.

Wait… Did Lesner just say the Heavyweight Division is starving for a champion? They need a true heavyweight. You don’t let Randy Couture… a 197 lb man beat you at Heavyweight. I’m sorry. Does he know nothing about Randy Couture and know who Couture even is and the fact that he is a natural Heavyweight and he cut to be Light Heavy? I’m going to put my fists down his throat? CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

The UFC should downplay any connection to the WWE. It weakens the perception that MMA is a true sport.

john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.

[quote comment="258197"][quote comment="258153"]No way that I am gonna keep ordering these declining UFC pay per views. The next event I order is UFC 82 Pride of a chiampion.
This is all comming from a man who has ordered every single UFC event in the last 3 or 4 years. Sorry but I am not buying Mir (a former shell of himself) vs. Brock (who is 1,0) as a co main event. Sorry but I aint no sucker WWE fan……feed this crap to someone that doesn’t no better, but I aint the one.[/quote]

True Story..I’m border lined to get ufc80 even though it’s dudu..at 3pm on Jan 19..depends on how i feel that afternoon…but for ufc to give on SuperBowl weekend Tim and Brock as co main events..is insulting to us fans. Like mania’s commentary brass VM/John and few more know..if anything Brock vs Mir should be the first televised match of ufc 81..not a featured co main event..45$ for that..yeah sure.[/quote]

Exactly. Lorenzo Fertita made it obvious that after all of us idiotic fans purchased the crappy ass event UFC 78 Validation, now the UFC feels that they can put on any old crappy show and the fans will still purchase it. Well I am getting fed up with
this crap. If the UFC doesn’t get back to putting on good events that feature more then 2 good fights and a bunch of other sh*tty fights. Its bad enough that they only televise 5 fights per event, in those five fights I expect decent match ups. UFC 79 Nemesis was even a crappy card. Before The wandy/Liddell fight even Rogan said lets be honest so far tonight has been boring. If wandy/Chcuk and GSP didnt put on one of there best performsances it would have been a bust.

Its time that I take a stand. I am in no way ordering UFC 80 which aires at 3 pm. By 6 or 7 pm that night, the fights will already be uploaded and available for viewing on http://www.myvideofight.com. I am going to keep not ordering the pay per views, and just view the fights 3 hours later then everyone else, until the UFC offfers a decent card, which as of now isnt scheduled to Happen until March 1st at UFC 82 Pride of a champion, I suggest that more of you do the same. Hopefully if the pay per view numbers decrease, the UFC might get back to putting together decent cards, like UFC 73 Stacked!

Frank Mir AND Brock Lesnar? I can’t care less!

“sigepsal” hit the nail on the head as far as the UFC (and any other money-making entertainment organization for that matter) bringing in big names to bring in money. However, I don’t agree that this card is better than nothing at all from an mma standpoint. The UFC HW division seems to be a bit chaotic right now, with no obvious clear ranking. I mean, why isn’t Gonzaga fighting for the belt? Anyway, many people will tune in and watch Mir hand out an ass-whooping. I just won’t be one of them.

[quote comment="258267"]john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.[/quote]

you made a valid point..the beef I have with the ufc is..their bark is louder then their bite..” We have the greatest MMA fighter’s in the world ” and with about 250 fighters on the payroll..we should get better packed cards. Mir vs Lesnar IMO is a televised fight not the featured main event match up..Tim is bunz to watch..I rather see quality over quantity in this situ..if they would of put ufc80/81 together..that would be a good card to see ppv..the ufc is riding on selling us their brand not he best fights out there..a few of us here..can do Joe Silva’s job a face lift of crazy type cards.

ex:

Ufc 81 IMO if I had control in match ups

Tim vs Big Nog interim HH title match

Bj vs Stevenson LW title match

Ricardo Alemida vs Nate Marq. ( part 2 )

Gonzaga vs Werdum ( part 2 )

Kendall vs Pete Sell

Mac Danzig vs Nate Diaz

KenFlo vs Tyson Griffin

Hazelett vs Kos

[quote comment="258197"][quote comment="258153"]No way that I am gonna keep ordering these declining UFC pay per views. The next event I order is UFC 82 Pride of a chiampion.
This is all comming from a man who has ordered every single UFC event in the last 3 or 4 years. Sorry but I am not buying Mir (a former shell of himself) vs. Brock (who is 1,0) as a co main event. Sorry but I aint no sucker WWE fan……feed this crap to someone that doesn’t no better, but I aint the one.[/quote]

True Story..I’m border lined to get ufc80 even though it’s dudu..at 3pm on Jan 19..depends on how i feel that afternoon…but for ufc to give on SuperBowl weekend Tim and Brock as co main events..is insulting to us fans. Like mania’s commentary brass VM/John and few more know..if anything Brock vs Mir should be the first televised match of ufc 81..not a featured co main event..45$ for that..yeah sure.[/quote]

Ditto. Will be interesting to see the PPV numbers of 81 if the card remains as is. Does “Breaking Point” refer to the patience of true MMA fans? If so, then the UFC got it just right with the 81 card!

I’m starting to lean toward Phil’s way of thinking. I might be experiencing MMA fatigue. There are a lot of PPVs and it seems like I only get excited about every third one.

Maybe if they spread them out a little bit more and stacked the card better I’d be more excited.

Having said that, I’m more excited about UFC 81, than I am about UFC 80.

sigepsal … Understandable but they are labeling the WWE as a true championship as if its of some sort of credibility. I’m talking about the WWE reference

I won’t be getting another ppv until 83. and are you crazy ufc 80 want great. 81 has nothing on 80

was great

[quote comment="258255"]HAHA did they REALLY put “Mir… Former UFC Heavyweight Champion”… “Brock Lesner… Former WWE Champion”… Former WWE? WWE is Sports Entertainment… ENTERTAINMENT! Thats so embarrassing. Had to put something I guess right? WRONG! Are they kidding? I thought I was watching a Royal Rumble Promo.[/quote]
Agreed! switching back and forth between UFC and WWE footage is embarassing for sure.
[quote post="4419"]..can do Joe Silva’s job a face lift of crazy type cards.
ex:
Ufc 81 IMO if I had control in match ups
Tim vs Big Nog interim HH title match
Bj vs Stevenson LW title match
Ricardo Alemida vs Nate Marq. ( part 2 )
Gonzaga vs Werdum ( part 2 )
Kendall vs Pete Sell
Mac Danzig vs Nate Diaz
KenFlo vs Tyson Griffin
Hazelett vs Kos [/quote]
Don’t get me started. With 5 belts (2 interim at any given time?) and so many fighters under contract, I could make 2 monthly fight nights, a monthly PPV with at least one guaranteed title fight, all with 15 televised fights each. The fighters would fight three times a year, get paid at least 25k to show 25k win up to 500k. Unlike some others, I watch more MMA than just PPVs, online and such, so I could take in an MMA show every weekend. ie: Don’t miss the Babalu fight on Jan 12.

YOU ALL KNOW TIMMY IS GOING TO BE ALL BOO HOOING AGAIN HOW HIS FIGHT SHOULD BE THE ONE BEING TALKED ABOUT FOR THIS EVENT YET EVERYONE IS WAY MORE INTERESTED IN THE MIR FIGHT, EVEN THE WEBSITE HIGHLIGHTS THE MIR FIGHT ALOT MORE!

I think lesner might come up with an upset and surprise alot a people.

yeah but i paid £150 for front row seats for 80 and its not enen that good of an event

who is babalu fighting

[quote comment="258346"]who is babalu fighting[/quote]
http://www.wcofighting.com/wco_website_001.htm
You can watch it live feed on ringsidejunk1e.com.
Requires silverlight.

YOu know what, i can’t wait for Mr. Lesner to get his crap knocked out of his mouth. Who does this guy think he IS!!?
He’s a JOKE. A LIE. He comes from a sport thats infested with juice taking meatheads. He’s yappin’ his ass off like he’s had wars in an MMA bout?! The HW division starving for a CHamP?… We’re Starving for more KNOckouts and your going to do so in the recieving end.

Man to see chuck whoop silva was great and a great fight. that would have been worth it alone.

He made some money in wrestling, couldn’t make it in the NFL, so I guess we’ll se what he can do in the UFC.

yeah i hear ya this will be the test 4 old lesner. my goodness hes as big as house.

How is it that everyone has already found a way to complain about a card that officially has only two fights on it. Personally I think the announced heavyweight fights for UFC 81 look pretty interesting.

Tim Sylvia, love hime or hate him, has a chance to show that the UFC Heavyweights aren’t as bad as people have said they are for years. The Former Pride heavyweight champoin looked less than impressive in his UFC debut against, former pride reject, Heath Herring. You can Boo him all you want, but the fact remains, Tim Sylvia finds a way to win. I see him taking this fight by knockout in the later rounds.

Who knows what will happen in the Mir v Lesnar fight! Lesnar is a totally unproven fighter with gobs of potential, and Mir, well I guess that depends on which Frank Mir shows up. The former champion or the more recent lack luster fighter he’s become. If Mir comes into this fight in good shape I think it could be a long night for Lesnar, but if we see the Mir we saw against Cruz and Cristison I see the Lesnar winning the fight by decision based on his superior wrestling.

Plus there are a bunch of rumored fights that look good. Griffen v. Tibau, Belcher v. Almieda, and Marquardt v. Leites all look like good fights. Terry Martin is also rumored to be fighting on the card that evening. I’m also interested to see Tomasz Drwal fight again, and its rumored that he might be fighting David Heath that night.

Everyone wants to jump all over Dana White and the UFC lately for not bringing us quality fights, but where are there any better? I think they’ve done a good job slowly intigrating in the Pride fighters after the merger, and now we consistently see the best talent in the world fight every PPV. Just because there aren’t names Like Sylva and Liddell on this card doesn’t mean it’s substandard in any way, it just means that the public at large is not as aware of the fighters that are fighting on that evening.

I’ll gladly shell out $40 to watch! I mean what the hell else would I do that night?

[quote comment="258379"]YOu know what, i can’t wait for Mr. Lesner to get his crap knocked out of his mouth. Who does this guy think he IS!!?
He’s a JOKE. A LIE. He comes from a sport thats infested with juice taking meatheads. He’s yappin’ his ass off like he’s had wars in an MMA bout?! The HW division starving for a CHamP?… We’re Starving for more KNOckouts and your going to do so in the recieving end.[/quote]
Again… he comes from a sport that is held in the olypics… he was a HIGHLY decorated collegate athlete way before he was in the WWE. If you were that big and had a ‘wrestling’ background, and knew you could make a lot of money ‘entertaining’, you wouldn’t?
MMA has now, in the public’s eye, been legitimized. He knows with his background, athletic ability, and strength he might be able to do well. We can’t hold it against him that he made money off his size, ability, and name. Give the guy a chance. If he is garbage, then trash him. But trash him cause he can’t fight, not beacuse he made money using his abilities where there was money to be made.

[quote comment="258403"]
Tim Sylvia, love hime or hate him, has a chance to show that the UFC Heavyweights aren’t as bad as people have said they are for years. The Former Pride heavyweight champoin looked less than impressive in his UFC debut against, former pride reject, Heath Herring. You can Boo him all you want, but the fact remains, Tim Sylvia finds a way to win. I see him taking this fight by knockout in the later rounds.
[/quote]

Wrong, ’sloppy’ Tim Sylvia is just big and finds ways to not lose. He’s nothing special and boring to watch. God knows why he seems to be on every other fight card. He related in some way to the UFC brass?

197 lb.s???????????
RANDY IN A NATURAL 125 pounder!

sweet short and simple.

[quote comment="258282"]“sigepsal” hit the nail on the head as far as the UFC (and any other money-making entertainment organization for that matter) bringing in big names to bring in money. However, I don’t agree that this card is better than nothing at all from an mma standpoint. The UFC HW division seems to be a bit chaotic right now, with no obvious clear ranking. I mean, why isn’t Gonzaga fighting for the belt? Anyway, many people will tune in and watch Mir hand out an ass-whooping. I just won’t be one of them.[/quote][quote comment="258283"][quote comment="258267"]john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.[/quote]

you made a valid point..the beef I have with the ufc is..their bark is louder then their bite..” We have the greatest MMA fighter’s in the world ” and with about 250 fighters on the payroll..we should get better packed cards. Mir vs Lesnar IMO is a televised fight not the featured main event match up..Tim is bunz to watch..I rather see quality over quantity in this situ..if they would of put ufc80/81 together..that would be a good card to see ppv..the ufc is riding on selling us their brand not he best fights out there..a few of us here..can do Joe Silva’s job a face lift of crazy type cards.

ex:

Ufc 81 IMO if I had control in match ups

Tim vs Big Nog interim HH title match

Bj vs Stevenson LW title match

Ricardo Alemida vs Nate Marq. ( part 2 )

Gonzaga vs Werdum ( part 2 )

Kendall vs Pete Sell

Mac Danzig vs Nate Diaz

KenFlo vs Tyson Griffin

Hazelett vs Kos[/quote]

Good idea with the card.

[quote comment="258394"]He made some money in wrestling, couldn’t make it in the NFL, so I guess we’ll se what he can do in the UFC.[/quote]
Actually he made it to the vikings practice squad with no former college football experience..Just on athleticis alone…

i cant wait for this fight.
and the way Brock said frank mir cracked me up

wasn’t much of merger with pride more a luiqedation.

I’m not a Tim Sylvia fan, but I would love to watch him and hopefully get knocked out, but I used to watch WWE. When Brock Lesnar was around. I have the DVD on Lesnar, and I’m rooting for him now in the UFC. I’m going to get this pay-per view and I can’t wait.

Again… he comes from a sport that is held in the olypics… he was a HIGHLY decorated collegate athlete way before he was in the WWE. If you were that big and had a ‘wrestling’ background, and knew you could make a lot of money ‘entertaining’, you wouldn’t?
MMA has now, in the public’s eye, been legitimized. He knows with his background, athletic ability, and strength he might be able to do well. We can’t hold it against him that he made money off his size, ability, and name. Give the guy a chance. If he is garbage, then trash him. But trash him cause he can’t fight, not beacuse he made money using his abilities where there was money to be made.[/quote]

Your points are good, except these are not what the UFC is focusing on. They are highlighting the WWE stuff.

The UFC should be touting his college wrestling experience and time in the NFL. They should downplay the WWE stuff and any affiliation with pro-wrestling. It saps the legitimacy of the sport.

10$ says lesnar tests positive for roids.

I don’t like him because he’s down talking fighters like he FEDOR or some S#%^!
Talking a lot of smack gets your ass kicked in the UFC.

Who cares what he’s done in the Olympics and in wrestling, there is nothing the UFC hasn’t seen that he could come and grace us with crap talk.

haha he does look it.

[quote comment="258414"][quote comment="258379"]YOu know what, i can’t wait for Mr. Lesner to get his crap knocked out of his mouth. Who does this guy think he IS!!?
He’s a JOKE. A LIE. He comes from a sport thats infested with juice taking meatheads. He’s yappin’ his ass off like he’s had wars in an MMA bout?! The HW division starving for a CHamP?… We’re Starving for more KNOckouts and your going to do so in the recieving end.[/quote]
Again… he comes from a sport that is held in the olypics… he was a HIGHLY decorated collegate athlete way before he was in the WWE. If you were that big and had a ‘wrestling’ background, and knew you could make a lot of money ‘entertaining’, you wouldn’t?
MMA has now, in the public’s eye, been legitimized. He knows with his background, athletic ability, and strength he might be able to do well. We can’t hold it against him that he made money off his size, ability, and name. Give the guy a chance. If he is garbage, then trash him. But trash him cause he can’t fight, not beacuse he made money using his abilities where there was money to be made.[/quote]

Great post. The great thing about sports is that the results speak for themselves. This ain’t Hollywood. He’s not gonna be kept around just because he is big and muscular. If he is as bad as the some people think he is, he’ll be out the door soon enough. But give the guy a chance. Isn’t that what America is all about?

brock has the size and ability to be a great. If he lyes on top of someone do you see them getting up. Have you seen his first fight he passes the guys guard with one arm thats just crazy.

[quote comment="258403"]How is it that everyone has already found a way to complain about a card that officially has only two fights on it. Personally I think the announced heavyweight fights for UFC 81 look pretty interesting.

Tim Sylvia, love hime or hate him, has a chance to show that the UFC Heavyweights aren’t as bad as people have said they are for years. The Former Pride heavyweight champoin looked less than impressive in his UFC debut against, former pride reject, Heath Herring. You can Boo him all you want, but the fact remains, Tim Sylvia finds a way to win. I see him taking this fight by knockout in the later rounds.

Who knows what will happen in the Mir v Lesnar fight! Lesnar is a totally unproven fighter with gobs of potential, and Mir, well I guess that depends on which Frank Mir shows up. The former champion or the more recent lack luster fighter he’s become. If Mir comes into this fight in good shape I think it could be a long night for Lesnar, but if we see the Mir we saw against Cruz and Cristison I see the Lesnar winning the fight by decision based on his superior wrestling.

Plus there are a bunch of rumored fights that look good. Griffen v. Tibau, Belcher v. Almieda, and Marquardt v. Leites all look like good fights. Terry Martin is also rumored to be fighting on the card that evening. I’m also interested to see Tomasz Drwal fight again, and its rumored that he might be fighting David Heath that night.

Everyone wants to jump all over Dana White and the UFC lately for not bringing us quality fights, but where are there any better? I think they’ve done a good job slowly intigrating in the Pride fighters after the merger, and now we consistently see the best talent in the world fight every PPV. Just because there aren’t names Like Sylva and Liddell on this card doesn’t mean it’s substandard in any way, it just means that the public at large is not as aware of the fighters that are fighting on that evening.

I’ll gladly shell out $40 to watch! I mean what the hell else would I do that night?[/quote]
you no your stuff mate!

[quote comment="258267"]john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.[/quote]

sigepsal: I am aware of all that. I am no idiot but should I apologize for being a well informed fan and not some idiot who will recognize the name Brock Lesner from WWE and purchase this event. If you want to settle for this sh*t, thats your right but I am done paying for unworthy events, when I can catch em on the computer 3 hours later. If more people dont buy the events when they are weak, it will force the UFC to put out better ones.

UFC is playing up the WWE connection for one reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.anyone can see that. WWE is fake but they generate huge revenue (way more than the UFC)and have done so for a long time.the UFC is obviously looking to get some of the WWE fans.good why not it just generates more money for MMA.why don’t some of you wait till the event is over before you start complaining

[quote comment="258534"][quote comment="258267"]john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.[/quote]

sigepsal: I am aware of all that. I am no idiot but should I apologize for being a well informed fan and not some idiot who will recognize the name Brock Lesner from WWE and purchase this event. If you want to settle for this sh*t, thats your right but I am done paying for unworthy events, when I can catch em on the computer 3 hours later. If more people dont buy the events when they are weak, it will force the UFC to put out better ones.[/quote]

I am trying to say you can not blame the UFC for promoting this fight or this fighter. Their job is not to stay ‘true’ to the ‘real’ mma fans. Their job is to make money. And, like I said, the UFC does not make their money from us hardcore fans. We are in the minority of who buys the PPV events. Pirate the video if you like, but don’t act as if your one boycott is going to catch the attention of Mr. White.

Mania, you can edit my post but you can’t correct my spelling? lol

i was actualy looking forward the mir/lesnar match 2 c how lesnar would fair, however after that comment bout the natural, i pretty much want 2 c mir choke him out, not an arm bar, but a rear naked choke on that gorilla, wheres ur strenght now biatch!!!!

ehhh…I’ll watch it but i wont pay $45 for it. Guess i’ll be watching at Hooters.
I’m a big hater of Tim Sylvia but I want him to win just to make the UFC look like douch-bags.
Tim was the champ, Randy beat the crap out of him and then Tim is the champ again.
LOL
Can the UFC look any worse then if Tim becomes champ again?

I see this fight going much like the Fedor/ManChoi fight. Lesnar takedown, stays on top doing some damage and one of the armbar subs sticks….winner Mir.

[quote comment="258558"][quote comment="258534"][quote comment="258267"]john, and pretty much everyone else bad mouthing this event, you guys need to realize that Lesnar is not just a WWE show pony. This guy is not only a very decorated collegate wrestler, and a great athlete.
Its all about hype, and big names. That is what sells tickets. Other than us die hard MMA fans who check this website daily, the UFC mainly makes their money of the fair weather fan who only want to see fights between people they have heard of before.
Why do you think Tito Ortiz gets big fights again and again. The guy hasn’t beat anyone except 80 yr old Ken Shamrock in a long time. But he draws a crowd. He brings in money. Brock Lesnar will bring in money. And lets be honest, who is not curious to see how he is going to do against a real competitor?
And on the other hand, for us ‘true’ mma fans, who doesn’t want to see if Frank Mir can ever get back to where he was beating up on Tim Sylvia? I don’t think it is a bad move by the UFC. They can’t bring us UFC 80 month after month. I would rather see this card than nothing at all.[/quote]

sigepsal: I am aware of all that. I am no idiot but should I apologize for being a well informed fan and not some idiot who will recognize the name Brock Lesner from WWE and purchase this event. If you want to settle for this sh*t, thats your right but I am done paying for unworthy events, when I can catch em on the computer 3 hours later. If more people dont buy the events when they are weak, it will force the UFC to put out better ones.[/quote]

I am trying to say you can not blame the UFC for promoting this fight or this fighter. Their job is not to stay ‘true’ to the ‘real’ mma fans. Their job is to make money. And, like I said, the UFC does not make their money from us hardcore fans. We are in the minority of who buys the PPV events. Pirate the video if you like, but don’t act as if your one boycott is going to catch the attention of Mr. White.

Mania, you can edit my post but you can’t correct my spelling? lol[/quote]

In no way is this a boycott and in no way do I expect the UFC to change anything because of me. Its just a personal decision of mine that I will no longer be a slave to a company and purchase in my oppinion, inferior Products. UFC 81 Breaking point is supposed to be the best event of the year but it wont be…for starters, the even after it UFC 82 will clow it away.
The UFC Interim title up for grabs is a shame. You can make a case for Noguerra deserving to fight for the title because he had one of the best heavyweight careers of all time and except for a kick, he had a really dominant Octagon Debut vs. Hearing. Sylvia does not deserve to fight for the title. He has been the worst champion of all time. He disgraced his first title reign by testing positive for roids. After regaining the title he went on to have some of the most boring and uneventful 5 round fights of all time. Then he just let Randy come out of retirement and Chump him for his title. Then he is part of another snoozefest against Verra. Come on, just the thought of Tim becoming champ sickens me, and everynight before I go to bed, I will pray that Noguerra rips his arm off. Brock vs. Mir is an opening televised fight at best, that is being promoted as the co main event for the “EVENT of the YEAR”. Let me show you something.

UFC Event of the year card:
Tim Sylvia vs. Noguerra
Brock vs. Mir
Nate vs. Thales Lietes
Gleison Tibau vs. Tyson Griffin
and a bunch of c-level fights

Pride FC Event of the Year card:
Fedor vs. Noguerra
Wanderlei Silva vs. Mark Hunt
Cro Cop vs. Kevin Randleman
Takanori Gomi vs. Jens Pulver
Rulan Gardner vs. Yoshida
Dan Henderson vs. Yuki Kondo
Ikuisa “the punk” Minowa vs. stephan Leko
Ryan Gracie (rip) vs. Yoji Anjo
Anderson Silva vs. RYo Chonan

Now thats how you put together a card of the year!

The UFC will never even come close to giving us with a card that is even half as good as this one. Its superbowl weekend, and the 1st event that the price will rise to $45. Why dont they try to atleast give us a card thats 1/3 as good as this card….Why did the UFC have to Purchase Pride…worst thing that ever happened!

Well i pray to god mir wins this one because if lesner wins ever WWE wrester and there mother will think they can fight in mma and the ufc and then it will seem like a big joke.

[quote comment="258732"]Well i pray to god mir wins this one because if lesner wins ever WWE wrester and there mother will think they can fight in mma and the ufc and then it will seem like a big joke.[/quote]

Uhh, no. Use your brain.

1. Most of the wrestlers will not have the balls to step into the Octagon. The only other wrestlers who would have had the balls are Kurt Angle and Mark Calaway (Undertaker), but both are now too old.

2. Dana White is not just gonna sign some Joe Blow, who has no martial arts experience. Who’s worked the hardest to turn the UFC from a circus into a sport? Dana. Why the hell would he do something to bring it back?

I dont even know why he would sign this guy he only has one pro fight. lesner will shoot straight for the takedown and mir will put him in the arm bar quick MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!

[quote comment="258823"]I dont even know why he would sign this guy he only has one pro fight. lesner will shoot straight for the takedown and mir will put him in the arm bar quick MARK MY WORDS!!!!!![/quote]

Mir will probably look for the kimura from the bottom.

you havent even seen the behind the seens for this brock lesnar, he has the grappling skills,the agility, and definately the strength..

he does HAVE wrestling background so he DOES know everything about the submissions and how to avoid them or too break them

[quote comment="279072"]he does HAVE wrestling background so he DOES know everything about the submissions and how to avoid them or too break them[/quote]

Wrestling has nothing to do with submissions collegiate wrestling is all about control all brock has to do is keep mir flat on his back and pound him for the whole fight