Comments on: UFC 79: Fighter paydays and salaries for ‘Nemesis’ http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:13:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Carlos_Rivera http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-726192 Carlos_Rivera Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:49:57 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-726192 Man you guys need to shut the F*&k up..Wand was already beaten. It didn't need to be taken to the 3rd round to see who's gonna win the fight.I mean sure there both great knockout artists they've demonstrated time and time again against the biggest names in the sport. I guess thats what you get when you put 2 excellent strikers in the ring. You fucken get a decision! And don't use the "reach advantage" excuse because Wand did whoop Rampage's ass twice. And Wand knows this obviously I mean his been in the light heavyweight category for all of his career. So, basically you gotta fight whoever they put in front of you. Regardless the height or the reach advantage. Man you guys need to shut the F*&k up..Wand was already beaten. It didn’t need to be taken to the 3rd round to see who’s gonna win the fight.I mean sure there both great knockout artists they’ve demonstrated time and time again against the biggest names in the sport. I guess thats what you get when you put 2 excellent strikers in the ring. You fucken get a decision! And don’t use the “reach advantage” excuse because Wand did whoop Rampage’s ass twice. And Wand knows this obviously I mean his been in the light heavyweight category for all of his career. So, basically you gotta fight whoever they put in front of you. Regardless the height or the reach advantage.

]]> By: Carlos_Rivera http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-726170 Carlos_Rivera Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:39:03 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-726170 Well, if you're knocking out the Who's Who in the sport than I think you deserve a lil bit more than the other fighters. Tell me one fighter that has done what The Iceman has done over the past lets say 6 years?Umm..nobody! When ever the The Iceman is being put in a fight card that event makes millions. And the rest of the card doesn't even have to be with big names. Basically all you need is Him and of course the guy that his gon' knock out.. Well, if you’re knocking out the Who’s Who in the sport than I think you deserve a lil bit more than the other fighters. Tell me one fighter that has done what The Iceman has done over the past lets say 6 years?Umm..nobody! When ever the The Iceman is being put in a fight card that event makes millions. And the rest of the card doesn’t even have to be with big names. Basically all you need is Him and of course the guy that his gon’ knock out..

]]> By: Gene http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-254640 Gene Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:07:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-254640 I expected Wandy to clinch and throw some serious knees. He looked tentative at best. Proves my theory again, the one who talks the most trash and acts like a buffoon at the weigh-ins is the one that's gonna get his asss beat down. I expected Wandy to clinch and throw some serious knees. He looked tentative at best. Proves my theory again, the one who talks the most trash and acts like a buffoon at the weigh-ins is the one that’s gonna get his asss beat down.

]]> By: Gene http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-254637 Gene Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:05:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-254637 "Before there are a load of posts about how certain fighters earnings are "not right', can you remember they signed the contract, so that indicates they are happy." Ypu have got to be kidding right? For someone who just wants to fight and gets an offer from the UFC, they usually will take whatever they're offered. Doesn't mean they're happy. “Before there are a load of posts about how certain fighters earnings are “not right’, can you remember they signed the contract, so that indicates they are happy.”

Ypu have got to be kidding right? For someone who just wants to fight and gets an offer from the UFC, they usually will take whatever they’re offered. Doesn’t mean they’re happy.

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253163 ViolentMike Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:46:21 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253163 [quote post="4360"]God I'm sick of heargin about this BS...what is Chcuk supposed to do? Go where is at the least advantage i.e. to an inside scrap with Wandy and allow Wandi to clinch him and then try to get out just to satisfy you? Wandi knew about his reach advantage when he signed the fight dude. Also I believe Rampage knocked Chuck's ass out and his reach is a few inches shorter than Chucks also. Your just mad that Chuck didnt KO Wandi, well guess what, Wandy didnt KO Chuck! You should be mad at Wanderlei for losing and not Chcuk for winning bro! Dont make lame excuses! [/quote] I am not making excuses for Wanderlei. He took everything Chuck had to throw at him, inluding takedowns, and Chuck still couldn't put Wanderlei away. Instead, I am questioning Chuck's stategy in the 3rd round. Both Chuck and Wanderlei have wanted this fight for like 6 years. THey both have said about a million times that when they do fight that they will swing for the fences until they knock the other guy out. At least one of the fighters kept his word. [quote post=”4360″]God I’m sick of heargin about this BS…what is Chcuk supposed to do? Go where is at the least advantage i.e. to an inside scrap with Wandy and allow Wandi to clinch him and then try to get out just to satisfy you? Wandi knew about his reach advantage when he signed the fight dude. Also I believe Rampage knocked Chuck’s ass out and his reach is a few inches shorter than Chucks also. Your just mad that Chuck didnt KO Wandi, well guess what, Wandy didnt KO Chuck! You should be mad at Wanderlei for losing and not Chcuk for winning bro! Dont make lame excuses! [/quote]

I am not making excuses for Wanderlei. He took everything Chuck had to throw at him, inluding takedowns, and Chuck still couldn’t put Wanderlei away. Instead, I am questioning Chuck’s stategy in the 3rd round. Both Chuck and Wanderlei have wanted this fight for like 6 years. THey both have said about a million times that when they do fight that they will swing for the fences until they knock the other guy out. At least one of the fighters kept his word.

]]> By: MMAmania http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253155 MMAmania Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:34:45 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253155 [quote comment="253100"]Why is it that some posts await moderation and others are posted instantly???[/quote] Depends on the content of the post. [quote comment=”253100″]Why is it that some posts await moderation and others are posted instantly???[/quote]

Depends on the content of the post.

]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253153 ViolentMike Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:33:01 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253153 And I quickly followed up with: " Also, I thought I had typed it in my previous post, but I didn't (I was typing while on a conference call...). In the third round, did you notice Chuck kept on looking up at the "big screen', most likely to see how much time is left in the fight? If you are looking for a Knockout win, you don't care how much time is left, you go for the kill. Once that third round hit the half way mark, Chuck just wanted to escape with a "W'. Why else would he go for the takedown on Wanderlei when he hasn't attempted a takedown since.... well, I can't even remember the last time Chuck went for the takedown. Does anyone? " And I quickly followed up with:

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Also, I thought I had typed it in my previous post, but I didn’t (I was typing while on a conference call…).

In the third round, did you notice Chuck kept on looking up at the “big screen’, most likely to see how much time is left in the fight? If you are looking for a Knockout win, you don’t care how much time is left, you go for the kill. Once that third round hit the half way mark, Chuck just wanted to escape with a “W’. Why else would he go for the takedown on Wanderlei when he hasn’t attempted a takedown since…. well, I can’t even remember the last time Chuck went for the takedown. Does anyone?
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]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253152 ViolentMike Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:31:31 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253152 Also, as an FYI, the initial comment that triggered the whole 'debate' was made by someone who was quoting a post of mine from a previous thread. Here is the quote IN CONTEXT: " I really wanted to see Wanderlei win... I wish that Chuck had went for one of his takedowns at the beginning of the first round. If he had, I think that the outcome of the fight would have been different. In round 2, Silva dropped Chuck with a punch. And what did he do? He backed off and allowed Chuck to get up. Why? Because he wanted to KNOCK CHUCK OUT, STANDING! If he simply wanted to win, he would have jumped all over Chuck when Chuck was down and hurt and went for the kill. But he didn't. He wanted to entertain the fans with a war, and end it in a knockout. And how does Chuck repay him for his kindness? By lay "n' praying on top of Wanderlei for the last 30 seconds of the fight dry humping him trying to eek out a decision. If Chuck was a TRUE warrior to the highest degree, as Wanderlei Silva is, he would have stood toe to toe with the Axe Murderer swinging for the fences trying to hit that memorable homerun in the bottom of the ninth of the World Series. But instead, he stepped up the plate, holding the bat to his shoulder, hoping to get a base on balls. In all, I was only dissapointed with that last 30 seconds. Chuck just wanted to play it safe and deploy the Josh Koscheck strategy. Wanderlei will be back. And still, at this moment, I believe that Wanderlei has a better chance at becoming UFC champ than Chuck does. I don't know what all this talk is about Rampage not wanting to fight Chuck a thrid time because he's scared. LOL. Was Tito affraid of Shamrock when they fought the 3rd time? NO. Rampage has Chuck's number, and they BOTH know it. " Also, as an FYI, the initial comment that triggered the whole ‘debate’ was made by someone who was quoting a post of mine from a previous thread. Here is the quote IN CONTEXT:

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I really wanted to see Wanderlei win…

I wish that Chuck had went for one of his takedowns at the beginning of the first round. If he had, I think that the outcome of the fight would have been different. In round 2, Silva dropped Chuck with a punch. And what did he do? He backed off and allowed Chuck to get up. Why? Because he wanted to KNOCK CHUCK OUT, STANDING! If he simply wanted to win, he would have jumped all over Chuck when Chuck was down and hurt and went for the kill. But he didn’t. He wanted to entertain the fans with a war, and end it in a knockout. And how does Chuck repay him for his kindness? By lay “n’ praying on top of Wanderlei for the last 30 seconds of the fight dry humping him trying to eek out a decision. If Chuck was a TRUE warrior to the highest degree, as Wanderlei Silva is, he would have stood toe to toe with the Axe Murderer swinging for the fences trying to hit that memorable homerun in the bottom of the ninth of the World Series. But instead, he stepped up the plate, holding the bat to his shoulder, hoping to get a base on balls.

In all, I was only dissapointed with that last 30 seconds. Chuck just wanted to play it safe and deploy the Josh Koscheck strategy.

Wanderlei will be back. And still, at this moment, I believe that Wanderlei has a better chance at becoming UFC champ than Chuck does.

I don’t know what all this talk is about Rampage not wanting to fight Chuck a thrid time because he’s scared. LOL. Was Tito affraid of Shamrock when they fought the 3rd time? NO. Rampage has Chuck’s number, and they BOTH know it.
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]]> By: ViolentMike http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253150 ViolentMike Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:29:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253150 [quote post="4360"]And for everyone who rags on Chuck for taking Wandy down, you need to listen to his post fight conference...he was doing that to keep him hesitant and for something else to think about. [/quote] If this was 100% true, Chuck would have went for the takedown in round 1 and round 2. He wouldn't have waited until he was ahead on the scorecards before falling on top of Wandrlei at the beginning of the third and final round, and during the final 30 seconds when the true bangers stand toe to toe and swing for the fences. [quote comment="253086"]I concede I may be a little too anti-chuck but only after years of supporting him. Chuck did deserve to win, no doubt, I also agree that Wandy was out to put on a show, his mistake, he should have used his BJJ. Chuck is a great champion and I liked his reign. It just gets monotonous when the outcome is almost guaranteed i.e. Chuck winning all the time. Thats when I started to want him to lose. It was like the Schumacher of the F1 world. Outstanding champion but glad he is gone so the competition are closer instead of him running away with the title year after year. That is how high I rank Chuck.[/quote] Well said. I used to root for Chuck as well. Although, I was rooting for Randy everytime he fought Chuck, and I was rooting for Rampage, Jardine, and Wanderlei. Chuck was a great UFC champ, the greatest UFC LHW champion of all time in my book. AND I actually have a question as well. Why did Liddell not have a Show/Win type contract for this fight? The last time he won, geez - when was that, I believe he got doubled up for winning. [quote post=”4360″]And for everyone who rags on Chuck for taking Wandy down, you need to listen to his post fight conference…he was doing that to keep him hesitant and for something else to think about. [/quote]

If this was 100% true, Chuck would have went for the takedown in round 1 and round 2. He wouldn’t have waited until he was ahead on the scorecards before falling on top of Wandrlei at the beginning of the third and final round, and during the final 30 seconds when the true bangers stand toe to toe and swing for the fences.

[quote comment=”253086″]I concede I may be a little too anti-chuck but only after years of supporting him.

Chuck did deserve to win, no doubt, I also agree that Wandy was out to put on a show, his mistake, he should have used his BJJ.

Chuck is a great champion and I liked his reign. It just gets monotonous when the outcome is almost guaranteed i.e. Chuck winning all the time.

Thats when I started to want him to lose.

It was like the Schumacher of the F1 world. Outstanding champion but glad he is gone so the competition are closer instead of him running away with the title year after year.

That is how high I rank Chuck.[/quote]

Well said.

I used to root for Chuck as well. Although, I was rooting for Randy everytime he fought Chuck, and I was rooting for Rampage, Jardine, and Wanderlei. Chuck was a great UFC champ, the greatest UFC LHW champion of all time in my book.

AND I actually have a question as well. Why did Liddell not have a Show/Win type contract for this fight? The last time he won, geez - when was that, I believe he got doubled up for winning.

]]> By: Automation http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253100 Automation Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:58:22 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/31/ufc-79-fighter-paydays-and-salaries-for-nemesis/#comment-253100 Why is it that some posts await moderation and others are posted instantly??? Why is it that some posts await moderation and others are posted instantly???

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