By Jesse Holland
UFC 79: “Nemesis” is finally in the books and aside from a great night of fights, I think it can be said (with a good deal of certainty) that after some rough waters the ship has finally started to right itself.
George St. Pierre is reclaiming his position as one of the most dominant fighters in the game today, Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva taught us that a rivalry as great as theirs can transcend time, and Melvin Guillard and Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou proved once and for all that power is nothing without control.
Matt Hughes has enjoyed the kind of career that most fighters can only dream about. Losing to Georges St. Pierre does not affect Hughes’ place in UFC history and I find it kind of fitting that the torch has been passed to “Rush” … via armbar.
That’s some symbolic karma right there.
Pay attention Georges. You want to be the next great welterweight legend. The fans want you to be next great welterweight legend. The only thing that can stop you is YOU. Let’s hope that tonight’s dominating performance is an indication that you’ve conquered your demons.
Can we have a moment of silence for the match that never was – and probably never will be? Maybe if Matt Serra loses to GSP he can settle his grudge with Hughes – assuming the self-professed country boy is still in the fight game by then.
Speaking of grudge matches, was anyone not on the edge of their seat for the fifteen minute war that was Liddell vs. Silva? I don’t even care that it didn’t end with a knockout. Saturday’s fight was the reason fans were demanding this match for so long – and credit to the fighters - they delivered.
Chuck looked sharp. And color me reactionary, but I was as stunned as Wandy when Chuck started pulling out the takedowns. I’d like to think the impostor that fought Keith Jardine last September is gone for good.
And as far as Wanderlei Silva is concerned, I didn’t think he was finished after dropping two straight fights and I still don’t think that now that it’s up to three. Losing to fighters like Mirko Cro Cop, Dan Henderson and Chuck Liddell is not exactly an uncommon occurrence in this sport and the way Silva fights I’ll continue watching him until he decides he’s had enough.
In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing “The Axe Murderer” give Rashad Evans his comeuppance.
It was interesting to see Houston Alexander, I mean Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, find out what happens when knockout power is not enough. The undefeated Lyoto Machida continued to mystify as his strategy baffled the UFC newcomer.
Can anyone figure this guy out?
Machida may not have an exhilarating style, but he knows how to get the job done. Sokoudjou was in la-la land prior to the arm triangle. And kudos to Machida for finally finishing an opponent. It couldn’t have come at a better time. Now who are we going to compare Karo Parisyan to?
Melvin Guillard is going to have to put a little more mixed in his martial arts. When you have seven losses and six of them are by submission, I think it’s time to re-evaluate things.
He’s got talent, but so often it looks like he just goes out there to fight, perhaps forgetting that this is a sport and that best strategy (most of the time) prevails. This is a huge win for Rich Clementi (personal and professional), but in a division this stacked it will be a tough road to hoe.
Not as tough as watching Eddie Sanchez fight Soa Palelei, however. This was the only stinker of the night. Palelei looks like a guy who has been out of the game for three years and Sanchez looked like he was getting royalties on the uppercut.
He got the “W” but he’s going to have to do better than that if he wants to get past some of the bigger guys like Tim Sylvia.
Again, it was a great night to be a MMA fan. To finish out the recap I’m going to take a look at the future of the fighters of UFC 79. Nothing scientific, just a little wish list of mine.
The winners:
Georges St. Pierre: If Serra is ready, great. If not, Jon Fitch has earned the right to face you.
Chuck Liddell: Quinton Jackson is out of the question, as is Forrest Griffin. I guess that leaves you with Shogun. No complaints here.
Lyoto Machida: Your ability to finish Sokoudjou is certain to raise your stock. If Shogun doesn’t get Chuck, I’m hoping that you do. Thiago Silva wouldn’t be a bad idea, either.
Rich Clementi: The lightweight division is full of contenders. Beating a veteran like Spencer Fisher may help you become one of them.
Eddie Sanchez: Tonight’s win probably won’t endear you to anyone at UFC headquarters, but a win is still a win. You might be Andrei Arlovski’s going away present.
The losers:
Matt Hughes: I doubt you’ll be around long enough to fight Serra, but that doesn’t mean you can’t go out without a bang. I’m sure a match with Diego Sanchez or Josh Koscheck would be entertaining.
Wanderlei Silva: Like I said before, Rashad Evans needs to get a little dirt on that clean record and I think you’re just the man for the job.
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou: It’s back to the drawing board I’m afraid. You won’t see a main event until you rebuild your resume. Fighting some TUF alumni would be a good start. Keith Jardine or Stephan Bonnar come to mind.
Melvin Guillard: With two submission losses and a drug suspension, your days are numbered. A fresh start in the WEC could do you some good – unless you want to slug it out with Luke Caudillo on a Fight Night undercard.
Soa Palelei: Getting battered by Eddie Sanchez in your debut is not the best way to start your UFC career. But you can take punishment. Maybe they’ll let Brandon Vera pound on you for a few rounds – it’s the kind of match the producers of “Unleashed” love to show.
That’s a wrap, maniacs. Hope everyone enjoyed the final show of 2007. For the most part it did not disappoint.
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i really was hoping to see the dean lister fight as well.
i can’t believe what happend to james irvin, again with an early first round nonsense. at least this time it was a win for him. i still want to see what the fight looked like for the time that it lasted.
Chuck won. No excuses why wandi didn’t Chuck was the better fighter. Wandi did what he said he was going to do as he always does in his fights but got beat by a much better striker. Anyone who doesn’t agree can kiss my ass. We wanted to know who the better striker was between the two and know we know. Wandi was outclassed by Chuck PERIOD.
can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin
Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.
Well, GSP proved without a doubt that he is the best ww, period. GSP dominated Hughes on the ground, and I think he has proven that he is now the most dominating striker, and that he has the best ground game in that division. GSP is the definition of class, and he represents the sport about as well as you can. As a fan of Hughes, I am glad that he is passing on the torch to such a great fighter, and such a class act.
As for Hughes, you have to give him credit for taking the fight. He could have waited for Serra to heal, and thus give himself more or less a sure chance of regaining the belt. He chose to gamble and he lost. I really hope that Hughes gets one more fight, and that it is with Serra. Serra is very disrespectful and I would love to see Hughes get a chance to make him eat his words. If and when Hughes fights and beats Serra, he should hang it up as the sport has now passed him by. He was a great champ, and he will for sure be in the Hall of Fame.
Obviously GSP will crush Serra when they next fight, and I don’t see anyone in sight that can hang with GSP.
dkortez Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.
GSP vs SERRA in Montreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank You Miarep. let Fitch put some time in and give him some tough guys “not Gono” to work his way in a title shot. Although he did beat burkman and diego, you should have to go through Karo (who turned that fight down), Hughs, Kos (make them fight). A win over LITTLE Gono doesn’t put someone in the top contender slot by any means.
[quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
Jesse is actually the author of this post. But I tend to agree, regardless. But that’s a bias opinion so I’ll stay out of this one. Besides, Karo has the next shot after Serra it seems.
I thing Wanderlei should take on Alexander or Soukodjou next maybe even Jardine because then he could back to his winning ways I think he would lose to Evans because Rashad would just take him down and GnP him
[quote comment=”249586″]can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin[/quote]
Wandi did not knock Chuck down , Chuck slipped both times and both times he was to far away for wandi to do shit about it and both times Chuck was very quick getting back up as he always is. Wandi had nothing on Chuck throughtout the whole flippin fight.
[quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
i did watched the fight and the first one was a slip but not the second one. but maybe i’m wrong since i could’nt hear anything because i could’nt concentrate on nothing but the fight. also i got really loud when he did knock him down or slip, like you said that i couldnt hear a thing. anyway wandy’s got a hard head. he got hit with some bombs and was still coming. like when he had his back againts the cage a la tito againts lidell 1 and instead of drop to the floor like tito did. he fire some bombs back. not that i’m comparing silva and tito. but the situation look really similar, and silva was really hurt. but he never gave up, he was looking for the knockout even when he was getting pounded. i’m still a silva fan. is just a shame we have to wait a while longer to see page-silva 3. same with shogun
Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.
I had Hughes winning the entire fight also until GSP accidently found a way to submit him.
It’s almost impossible to overstate how much I enjoyed watching Rich Clementi potentially end Melvin Guillard’s UFC career. And then to see Melvin act like a little bitch after the fight was just icing on the cake.
Uh, Melvin?
Buh, bye…
As much as I enjoyed the Liddel/Silva fight, I still can’t figure out why Chuck was blatantly glancing up at the clock for the last 2-3 minutes of the third round? Chuck looked like the man of old - why not make the effort to finish his opponent? The only thing I can guess is that with two recent losses he wanted to make sure he had this win. He obviously respects Wandy’s striking power and didn’t want to catch one on the chin in the last few moments. Whatever the case, great fight. I laughed out lound when Chuck dove and took Wandy down.
Much props to both Chuck and Wandy.
What more can you say about Georges? He had the look in his eye and he certaily didn’t seem to be distracted by mental issues. Good hell the man is impressive!! Matt showed a great deal of class (they both did). Hate to see him get owned like he was, but as with all fighters, the torch passes at some point.
Please, please, Georges, will you beat the living crap out of Serra?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Great write up!
Rashad has a way of making whoever he fights look like shit.
Could be bad for Wandy.
Chuck clearly slipped the first time he went down.
I think he partially slipped the second time he went down, but I also think Wandy’s fist was there for the partial assist.
[quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
[quote comment=”249617″][quote comment=”249586″]can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin[/quote]
Wandi did not knock Chuck down , Chuck slipped both times and both times he was to far away for wandi to do shit about it and both times Chuck was very quick getting back up as he always is. Wandi had nothing on Chuck throughtout the whole flippin fight.[/quote]
Really, a slip both time huh? Did you guys not catch the replay where wandy lands a clear right looping hand on chuck and chuck goes down? I can’t believe you guys listen to joe rogan, the guy was obviously biased on his comments.
anyways, I think for soko the next fight should be against houston alexander, machida deserves a title shot or be thrown in with undefeated thiago silva, and chuck should get shogun. As for wandy, I really think he should get a rematch with hendo after he loses to the spider (if his contract is still under the ufc).
[quote comment=”249642″]Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.[/quote]
wot? u r kidding rite?? liddell destroyed him, actually picked him apart, he was the one pushing the action, two take downs along with significant damage caused on the feet(just look at silva’s face), rocked him at least 4 times, silva fans just accept it, liddell is the better fighter! i would love to see silva and houston, would be sum slugfest, or just give wandy tito, cos if belfort dosent sign wit d ufc and get that fight, i wanna c wandy destroy him, “PUNISH HIM INTO RETIREMENT WANDY”
[quote comment=”249644″]I had Hughes winning the entire fight also until GSP accidently found a way to submit him.[/quote]
LOL good one.
[quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
it’s Goldberg, not Greenberg
WOW WHAT A FIGHT… BUT CHUCK IS A BITCH… he didn’t out strike wandy at all!!.. only reason why he won is cuz he shot for the take down… and was scared to come close to wandy the whole time. its funny chuck hasn’t shot for a take down in like EVER!! but yet against the man that he knew he can’t outstrike he went for the take down!! still good job chuck but you won’t get ur title back… rampage is the king!!! i think shogun vs liddel WOULD BE AMAZING TO WATCH…. a younger silva……..
“Let’s hope that tonight’s dominating performance is an indication that you’ve conquered your demons.”
lol, I thought that stupid meme was dead
[quote comment=”249642″]Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.[/quote]
What the hell were you watching, do you have anything to back that up? You must have been watching a different fight. The only round that I might have given to Wandy was round 2, which was the most even round in the fight. Rounds 1 and 3 were all Chuck.
[quote comment=”249644″]I had Hughes winning the entire fight also until GSP accidently found a way to submit him.[/quote]
I don’t even know how to respond to this, WHAT WERE YOU WATCHING! Nobody “accidentally” finds an armbar, if you ever took a single BJJ class in your life you would know how much skill it takes to perfect that. How can you say Hughes was winning? Look at his face after the fight, he was all F*cked up, GSP imposed his will for that entire fight.
[quote comment=”249641″][quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
i did watched the fight and the first one was a slip but not the second one. but maybe i’m wrong since i could’nt hear anything because i could’nt concentrate on nothing but the fight. also i got really loud when he did knock him down or slip, like you said that i couldnt hear a thing. anyway wandy’s got a hard head. he got hit with some bombs and was still coming. like when he had his back againts the cage a la tito againts lidell 1 and instead of drop to the floor like tito did. he fire some bombs back. not that i’m comparing silva and tito. but the situation look really similar, and silva was really hurt. but he never gave up, he was looking for the knockout even when he was getting pounded. i’m still a silva fan. is just a shame we have to wait a while longer to see page-silva 3. same with shogun[/quote]
The second time Chuck went down wasn’t a slip, he was rocked by Wandy, unfortunately for Wandy, at the same time Chuck landed a nasty left that rocked him too. Wandy couldn’t capitalize on the knockdown because he was dazed. Chuck made a very quick recovery, which makes me believe that he wasn’t really hurt, he just got knocked down.
From watching the PPV, I could see Chucks punches were having a much bigger effect on Wanderlei, whenever Chuck got hit he recovered quickly and shook it off. Whenever Wandy got hit, you could see in his face and his reaction (backing up, covering his face) that Chuck was doing a lot of damage.
Id love to see this fight again as a 5 round title match.
[quote comment=”249660″][quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
[quote comment=”249617″][quote comment=”249586″]can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin[/quote]
Wandi did not knock Chuck down , Chuck slipped both times and both times he was to far away for wandi to do shit about it and both times Chuck was very quick getting back up as he always is. Wandi had nothing on Chuck throughtout the whole flippin fight.[/quote]
Really, a slip both time huh? Did you guys not catch the replay where wandy lands a clear right looping hand on chuck and chuck goes down? I can’t believe you guys listen to joe rogan, the guy was obviously biased on his comments.
anyways, I think for soko the next fight should be against houston alexander, machida deserves a title shot or be thrown in with undefeated thiago silva, and chuck should get shogun. As for wandy, I really think he should get a rematch with hendo after he loses to the spider (if his contract is still under the ufc).[/quote]
I totaly agree the UFC anouncers sugar coat alot in favor of the company favorites.
This comment is for Melvin Guilard. Glad to see his cocky self get submitted again. Goes to show him that steriods and strenth and “exposiveness” just doesnt cut it when your on your back! look at his last 3 losses. SUBMISSION. Sorry but they shouldnt let him back. all he has is his ego and a pre UFC record that looks good on paper, not in the ring.
[quote comment=”249660″][quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
[quote comment=”249617″][quote comment=”249586″]can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin[/quote]
Wandi did not knock Chuck down , Chuck slipped both times and both times he was to far away for wandi to do shit about it and both times Chuck was very quick getting back up as he always is. Wandi had nothing on Chuck throughtout the whole flippin fight.[/quote]
Really, a slip both time huh? Did you guys not catch the replay where wandy lands a clear right looping hand on chuck and chuck goes down? I can’t believe you guys listen to joe rogan, the guy was obviously biased on his comments.
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The Second time was a Knockdown. Wandi threw two punches and it was after the second punch Chuck went down not Chuck slipping then Wandi punching. You don’t need confirmation from Joe Rogan who was biased towards Chuck in the fight. I watched it in Slowmo and am sure it was a knockdown. Great fight overall and am very suprised Chuck didn’t finish in the third it was Deja Vu with the spinning back fist in the Wandi Henderson fight.
Great card to end a year in the UFC. Looking forward to 08.
[quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
7-0 in the UFC is enough in my book.
[quote comment=”249642″]Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.[/quote]
Bushwinger… You are kidding right? If not, please leave this forum and never return because you know nothing about MMA
[quote comment=”249660″][quote comment=”249602″]dkortez
Wandy did not knock Chuck down. Both times Chuck went down was slip. Rogan and Greenberg both said it was a slip. I mean if you watched the fight you would know that.[/quote]
[quote comment=”249617″][quote comment=”249586″]can’t wait for gsp to get his revenge on serra. he got lucky on the first fight because he fougth a different gsp. but he seems really focus now and he doesn’t stand a chance. gsp vs serra gsp by brutal ko first round
wandy vs lidell great fight but didn’t have the outcome i wanted. i think wandy should have finish him when he knock him down on the second round.
machida had a great win i think he should fight chuck next for winner of rampage-griffin[/quote]
Wandi did not knock Chuck down , Chuck slipped both times and both times he was to far away for wandi to do shit about it and both times Chuck was very quick getting back up as he always is. Wandi had nothing on Chuck throughtout the whole flippin fight.[/quote]
Really, a slip both time huh? Did you guys not catch the replay where wandy lands a clear right looping hand on chuck and chuck goes down? I can’t believe you guys listen to joe rogan, the guy was obviously biased on his comments.
anyways, I think for soko the next fight should be against houston alexander, machida deserves a title shot or be thrown in with undefeated thiago silva, and chuck should get shogun. As for wandy, I really think he should get a rematch with hendo after he loses to the spider (if his contract is still under the ufc).[/quote]
No shit… really. Actually I did see that right hook, but I also noticed that it didn’t have any effect on him what so ever, and if you were sober enough you would have noticed that Chuck slipped on his own flippin foot moveing backwards while Wandi was throwing those punches. But it is all pointless to argue now we all know Chuck is a much better fighter than Wandi and that Chuck outclassed him 100% in that fight. As for rogan I don’t listen to him, as a matter of fact I think both rogan and mike talk to much during important fights like that.
rashad is a bad match up for wand he would take him down and hold him for the hole 15 min
[quote comment=”249726″][quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
7-0 in the UFC is enough in my book.[/quote]
I think Fitch deserves his chance. On the InsideMMA show 2 or 3 weeks ago Karo Parisyan said he has been guarenteed a title shot next year and is clearly avoiding Fitch. Out of the two i would rather have Fitch who is more deserving and not a total pr…
[quote post=”4356″]Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.[/quote]
[quote post=”4356″]wot? u r kidding rite?? liddell destroyed him, actually picked him apart, he was the one pushing the action, two take downs along with significant damage caused on the feet(just look at silva’s face), rocked him at least 4 times, silva fans just accept it, liddell is the better fighter! i would love to see silva and houston, would be sum slugfest, or just give wandy tito, cos if belfort dosent sign wit d ufc and get that fight, i wanna c wandy destroy him, “PUNISH HIM INTO RETIREMENT WANDY”[/quote]
If you read his next comment posted 1 minute later you might actually find bushswinger to be a funny fellow as i do
[quote post=”4356″]I had Hughes winning the entire fight also until GSP accidently found a way to submit him.[/quote]
way 2 go bushswinger
couldn’t agree more lol
Nice article. By why oh why do you think Jardine should fight Soku and Chuck fight Shogun. If there is one thing that I can say with absolute certaintly, it’s that Jardine is higher on the LHW ladder than Chuck is right now. So I think it would just be a complete joke if he has to fight someone like Soku, which gets him nowhere near a title shot, while Chuck is fighting Shogun.
kudos bushswinger, never saw d second comment, thanx to UFCmn89 for pointing dat 1 out, for my eyes saw red when i read the chuck/wandy comment, need to control those emotions!! is shogun next for liddell, or perhaps a rematch wit jardine?? also spotted on some other boards that people felt like wandy was over trained, however did anyone catch ufc all access during his regiem, they stated dat they were constantly testing him to make sure he wasnt! as for hughes, will he move up to middleweight before he retires, he has stated that before, would be intresting(death wish even)!!
Scanning bushswinger posts….
**Sarcasm detected!**
well im so happy chuck is back and some might not agree and i doubt he would want to do it, but i say a jardine rematch. as for silva, if belfort dosent return( which i hope he does), he can get revenge on that punk tito. hughes should retire for a year like randy did and come back to fight serra(which i pray to god he losses) and i dont care who wins st. pierre vs serra two, i like them both. as for machida, him and thiago all the way that would be an awesome fight. and soko needs to fight alexander, a good ole black on black slugfest. i am so happy for cleminti for shutting up that loud mouth melvin. cleminti vs fisher definatley. as for melvin um….well cant really think of anything good for u so iguess never return to the ufc that would be nice, wait i take that back, i want them to feed you to guida.
[quote comment=”249726″][quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
7-0 in the UFC is enough in my book.[/quote]
I don’t think anybody here could deny that Fitch and GSP match up very well, but i think the thought of Diego being the gate keeper for a title shot ridiculous. With Matt Hughes’ future in question, i think the WW division still has some sorting out to do before the Title picture can fully be unfolded.
With AKA having three top ten fighters that insist on avoiding each other with two of them arguably in the Top 5 this poses some real match up issues that will keep this division backed up until the UFC takes some serious action. I don’t care what anybody says nobody in the 3,4,5 rank at 170 derserves a title shot, Fitch just broke into the top 5, Karo finally worked his way back in, KOS is still in the big picture, Matt Hughes’ future is uncertain, BJ is still lingering around, and if St.Pierre beats Serra, Matt Serra will still be considered Top 5 . Out of any of the possible match ups that I would prefer to see is GSP-Fitch. I don’t care what Karo thinks he deserves, beating Burkman and Ryo,
shouldn’t result in a title match when you have better competiton in the way.
[quote comment=”249642″]Wandy won the whole fight on my card. EASY.[/quote]
what fight where you watching…another fan who cannot accept that his fav got beat down
[quote comment=”249610″][quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
Jesse is actually the author of this post. But I tend to agree, regardless. But that’s a bias opinion so I’ll stay out of this one. Besides, Karo has the next shot after Serra it seems.[/quote]
Fitch hasn’t been beaten in the Octagon in like six fights. He definitely deserves a title shot. And I’m not biased. I could give a sh#t about Jon Fitch.
BTW, it was awesome to see anderson console Sok and Hendo after Machida beat him.
I was amazed on how skinny Wandy came in for the fight, he usually comes in alot bigger.
[quote comment=”249644″]I had Hughes winning the entire fight also until GSP accidently found a way to submit him.[/quote]
man ur such a fukin idiot gsp killed him
bring on evans vs wandy. thiago vs tito. jardine vs liddell 2.. sokou vs alexander.
gsp is a freak of nature. have you guys watched how easily he outwrestled matt hughes..
yea wndy seemed half the size of chuck. i lost money on this fight but i still would like to see wandy rampage three. anyone else with me.
GSP Dominated Hughes! I figured Matt would put up a great fight making it a close one, boy was I wrong, he was outclassed by Matt Hughes.
Enough of this crap about Liddell-Silva, that was a great fight! 5 rounds would have just been 2 more rounds of the same thing, Chuck scoring better overall. I think it was a close second round, but Chuck clearly got the better of the exchanges and had Silva with his back against the fence how many times? 3? Cutt his face open and turned it to mush. Oh yea and he took him down i think twice and another time, but I think it was more of a fall and Wanderlei pulling Chuck down. Wanderlei got some great hits in on Chuck, but why didnt he go for more kicks to the body/leg? I also noticed Chuck seemed to be actually checking Wandy’s kicks. When Wanderlei did have Chuck hurt he was to hurt himself to actually charge him and finish Chuck off! Chuck was not able to finish Wanderlei because the SOB can take some good shots, and he would not give up or go down! Chuck said in a post-fight interview that he was just winging it at one point when SIlva was up against the fence and he was just throiwng shots at him, and that he was connecting but Silva was just a tough guy! ANyway great fight!
Would like to see Chuck vs Thiago Silva or possibly Machida, I dont care to see Chuck vs Jardine again, that fight doesnt make sense, if Jardine wins so what? he already beat Chuck it does nothing for him, if Chuck loses, he drope WAY down the ladder again! Jardine should face Shogun, and then the winner of Machida/Liddel or Silva/Liddel should face winner of Jardine/Shogun for next challenger for the belt.
I meant outclassed by GSP****
BEING A ORTIZ FAN….i must admit that chuck looked damn good,i even told my buddy that was over to look at chucks eyes he had that look that he lost the last two fights,congrats liddel on a weel deswerved win,wadi looked good also just outclassed by the veteran.so may i ask guys whats next for both fighters?i say….wandi vs jardine, chuck vs machida!
realufcinfo,
Rampage probably isn’t.
[quote comment=”249790″][quote comment=”249610″][quote comment=”249588″]Mania I have to disagree with you about Fitch deserving a shot against GSP. Fitch’s only quality victory has been over Diego, thats it! Fitch vs. GSP would be very similar to Kos vs. GSP. He needs one more victory over a top contender (not Gono) to get GSP.[/quote]
Jesse is actually the author of this post. But I tend to agree, regardless. But that’s a bias opinion so I’ll stay out of this one. Besides, Karo has the next shot after Serra it seems.[/quote]
Fitch hasn’t been beaten in the Octagon in like six fights. He definitely deserves a title shot. And I’m not biased. I could give a sh#t about Jon Fitch.[/quote]
Whether Fitch deserves a title shot or not, he is the only person in WW I see possibly beating GSP. I was horribly wrong about Hughes winning, so hey what do I know.
Happy retirement Matt Hughes. Silva will be back !!!
[quote comment=”249795″]I was amazed on how skinny Wandy came in for the fight, he usually comes in alot bigger.[/quote]
That may have something to do with the UFC’s mandatory post-fight drug tests.
glad to see Machida doing well,me being a Shotokan guy:), Thiago should be his next fight and the winner fights Rampage Forrest winner like people are saying. GSP looks great, manhandled Matt like a baby, he’s great on the ground but not sure about the GSP chin just yet, Fitch will win by knockout if they fight, Fitch has the strength to keep GSP in check. cant wait for the Feb. 2 fights, two heavyweight matches, and the winner will probably fight the winner of the interm holder. thanks for keeping this site updated with great info, i check it often to keep me and my friends informed.
how about a liddell/jardine rematch? chuck should try and avenge that loss. if he does he could fight the winner of forrest/rampage. i would love to wandi fight machida myself.
Machida is something to watch, he never even gets hurt in any of his fights! He is just such a great technical puncher with A defence. I would like to see him and Thiago Silva go at it. Shogun should get Jardine.
Yeah I think Chuck should avenge his loss to jardine then maybe he could fight shogun.
Machida showed skills. Liddell impressed in what I thought might be his swan song. Now he has to beat some other quality opponent to set up a rematch with Rampage after the Forest fight. Damn shame it will take forever to get to that match UFC needs to get more title matches on more of the cards. Hughes was manhandled and should strongly consider calling it a career. Manny also looked good in a quick tapout. GSP proved when he is focused he can rule the ww division in a way similar to Silva in the mw. Serra is going to be destroyed in my opinion. Over all other than the Sanchez fight, I was entertained and happy witht some of the quality fights.
[quote comment=”249681″]WOW WHAT A FIGHT… BUT CHUCK IS A BITCH… he didn’t out strike wandy at all!!.. only reason why he won is cuz he shot for the take down………..[/quote]
This is a crazy - if that isn’t outstriking I don’t know what is..
DID ANYBODY NOTICE THE GREAT NEW CHANGE TO THE OCTOGON LAST NIGHT, I know im not the only one who noticed the material under the canvas was firm like the pride ring instead of that soft cushy material that they used to have. You could also hear the difference as well. And the canvas was secured much better. I attribute coutures third loss to lidell to that very reason when randy was pivoting to throw the canvas folded over causing him to lose his footing which gave lidell the opening for the knocout shot.
The only problem is when the canvas gets wet it can become a little slippery which maybee caused the ONE slip by lidell last night.
[quote comment=”249859″]Yeah I think Chuck should avenge his loss to jardine then maybe he could fight shogun.[/quote]
agree all the way, he should dominate Jardine to prove any remaining doubters
Chuck looks like hes back where are all the haters now i guess everyone will jump back on the band wagon now i just wnder who he fights next wandi took alot of punisment dude is tough just glad to see chuck whoop that ass
alright how about this:
light heavys
machida vs jardine (winner gets winner of rampage/griffin)
liddell vs evans
wandy vs bonnar
shogun vs houston
thiago vs ortiz
sokou vs winner of lamber gouveia
hammil vs somebody
of course if vitor comes back the tail end of this all changes. i could see wandy vs ortiz again too.
welters
gsp vs serra
karo vs fitch (winner gets title shot)
koscheck vs thiago alves
hughes (if he doesnt retire) vs winner of koscheck/alves or serra if he loses.
Man, Chuck has some serious reach. Wandy did well considering how short his arms are compared to Chuck’s. Good fight overall. Chuck def looked like he was on point. I was pretty surprised at how small Wandy looked in front of Chuck.
Melvin proved yet again that he is way too immature both as a person and as a fighter to hang in the octagon. He got dominated. I’m glad Clementi won this one. Melvin needs to grow up and learn to be a professional.
I’ve been a fan of Machida’s since his days in Japan. I just love his style. Most of his fights look like something you would see on the streets when a thug picks a fight with a martial artist. Glad he finished a fight in the UFC, purely for the fact that now he’ll be getting a few more fans. He deserves em. As for Sokou, come on.. not really much of a surprise. The guy has little experience, but a ton of potential. The UFC hyped him up way too much and immediately threw him to the wolves. Hopefully they’ll keep him around while he develops.
can anybody find a link of the chuck fight from last night? Greatly appreciated if ya can post. It was my girlfriend’s birthday last night, so we had to do the boring dinner and drinks. I got my balls back today though.
thx.
[quote comment=”249681″]WOW WHAT A FIGHT… BUT CHUCK IS A BITCH… he didn’t out strike wandy at all!!.. only reason why he won is cuz he shot for the take down… and was scared to come close to wandy the whole time. its funny chuck hasn’t shot for a take down in like EVER!! but yet against the man that he knew he can’t outstrike he went for the take down!! still good job chuck but you won’t get ur title back… rampage is the king!!! i think shogun vs liddel WOULD BE AMAZING TO WATCH…. a younger silva……..[/quote]
I, for the most part, agree with you.
There’s only one more fight I really want to see happen:
BJ “The Prodigy” Penn vs. Georges St. Pierre 2.
I have a new found respect for Wanderlei Silva. The guy is amazing.
We were at the fights and we saw wandi after his fight and his face was SOOOOO jacked up….all he would say was “I respect chuck, he a great fighter and hits very hard”…lol his english is so tough to understand! But I dont care what anyone says…chuck won that fight EASILY! He won every round and I dont care if he didnt win by KO…it would have been nice to see but he still showed the world that he CAN and DID outstrike Wandi…Oh I also find it kind of funny how all the PRIDE guys were running their mouths about Chuck…but I dont hear them now…WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR BOY?…he just got beat! BAD!
Oh and anyone who wants to say that the fight was close…go check out the post fight photos and just look at there faces…chuck looks a little roughed up but wandi looks like he is inches from death.
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