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Undefeated professional boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. is considering a move to mixed martial arts apparently for real this time after forging a relationship with billionaire owner of upstart promotion HDNet Fights, Mark Cuban, on the television program, “Dancing with the Stars,” according to ESPN.com.

“Pretty Boy” has been vocal in the past about the supremacy of the sweet science over MMA, bashing then UFC light heavyweight champion, Chuck Liddell, prior to his blockbuster showdown with Oscar De La Hoya earlier this year.

The vociferous sensation attributed the MMA smack after defeating De La Hoya to just good old fashioned jawing. However, now he appears to have serious designs on considering some type of move to MMA with seemingly nothing left to prove (or any big name to challenge him left) in boxing.

Here’s a snip from Cuban:

“Floyd is considering fighting with HDNet Fights. We are going to let him visit some gyms to talk to some folks about what it would take to learn. He knows it won’t be easy. But he is getting involved with MMA and HDNet Fights one way or another. He is pumped about it. He wants to go on to the next big thing. Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money.”

Indeed, Mayweather is among the biggest draws in his respective sport. In fact, his two fights alone in 2007 generated something in the neighborhood of $200 million. For some perspective, the UFC in 2006 did roughly more than $220 million for all of its events … and that was a banner year for the organization.

Here’s more from Cuban:

“If I said there’s a guaranteed $30 million payday, Floyd would be lacing them up. If not, I could see him working to train and develop and invest in MMA fighters, knowing the upside. He can teach them how to be a better boxer and add to their other skills.”

The interesting thing here is that Cuban can afford to pay Mayweather an ungodly amount of money to somehow get involved with HDNet Fights, whether it is as a fighter, trainer or vocal supporter. And more likely than not it will be an investment that has a huge upside — the curiosity of MMA and boxing fans alike will be piqued at all times.

After all we’re not talking about Ray Mercer or Kermit Cintron here … it’s Floyd Mayweather Jr. — the best pound-for-pound boxer on the planet considering on offer to get involved in MMA.

That’s huge for the sport of MMA in general and HDNet Fights in particular regardless of the result … even if this is just another publicity stunt.

Stay tuned.

(Thanks to MMAmania.com reader “DrubySunshine” for the assist.)

December 22nd, 2007    

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Comment by jdawg
2007-12-22 12:59:51

ha! after all that trash talking he’s jumping onto the bandwagon.hope he get murdered in the cages with REAL fighters

 
Comment by ntvman
2007-12-22 13:01:02

I hope he does. I want to see someone put him in a triangle, lol,jk. I just can’t understand why he would throw all that money away, to fight in MMA. There is no way that anyone can pay him the way Boxing does…

 
Comment by XxXFactor
2007-12-22 13:03:28

i doubt he’ll actually fight cuz of the decrease in money and his hands are messed up so he probably just wants to train in bjj or something…

 
Comment by MMAmania
2007-12-22 13:04:14

[quote comment=”242049″]I hope he does. I want to see someone put him in a triangle, lol,jk. I just can’t understand why he would throw all that money away, to fight in MMA. There is no way that anyone can pay him the way Boxing does…[/quote]

Cuban can.

 
Comment by jslim
2007-12-22 13:08:42

[quote post=”4299″]ha! after all that trash talking he’s jumping onto the bandwagon.hope he get murdered in the cages with REAL fighters [/quote]

ya in d cage or ring under mma rules he would get destroyed, same can be said for any mma fighter who steps in a boxing ring! to his credit mayweather has unreal cardio and stamina, however if a guy with the skills of like penn or even sherk had him on the ground, game over, and even so on the feet, can any 1 seriously see him taking leg kicks to the body, or even defend the clinch! would still love to see it tho…..

 
Comment by JRV
2007-12-22 13:09:24

Cuban definitly has enough money. Hes a billionaire. I dont think some of you people here actually understand how money a billion is. If he does fight for HDNets Fight, he’ll probably get some easy opponent 1st. But if he ever fight someone with even an ounce of jui-jitsu skill. He will get crushed.

 
Comment by dan
2007-12-22 13:11:11

in the build up to the hatton fight he was complaining his hands/shoulders/back were realy starting to feel the pain. carnt see him fighting but training/promoting yes

 
Comment by b.w.
2007-12-22 13:16:57

i’ll beleive it when i see it. cuban is a billionaire and can easily afford it, but the first time floyd tests himself against anybody in training, he wont do it. floyd wont be able to show any mma fighter anything about boxing, a regular boxing stance wont work in mma. i think floyd is trying to pump up his take in a rumored rematch w/ delahoya. he probably wants equal or more than oscar. plus a big reason floyd was so huge in 07 was because of who he fought, oscar and hatton. floyd against anyone else wont gnerate enough buzz. trust me he’s not that popular. i do hope it’s true though, it would be huge for mma. if floyd was seriuos just about the challenge part he would be talking to the ufc not hdnet.

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-22 13:17:48

If that goes down it could be devastating to boxing, but I can’t see Mayweather taking a huge risk by fighting in MMA. He’s mastered boxing but would be an infant in MMA. For a guy who’s ego is half the size of the state of Texas, I can’t really see him putting himself in a position where he could be easily humiliated.

 
Comment by Spider Style
2007-12-22 13:28:48

can’t anyone here just appreciate Mayweather for what he is? The best P4P fighter in boxing. Everyone is comparing apples and oranges here. Maybe he would get crushed in the Octagon but i Guarantee he can probably destroy most in a boxing ring. Give the guy his due. with all the talk about boxing being dead might wanna look at the fact that Mayweather brought in 200 million in PPV $$$ for 2 fights!!! No one in the UFC is that big of a draw. You can say it was all because of Hatton and De Le Hoya but the fact of the matter is that those guys would never have brought in that kind of cash if they were fighting anyone other than Mayweather. Stop comparing apples to ranges.

The Ufc may want to start paying their guys a little better. Mark Cuban has the cash to make a lot of fighters switch sides. Imagine being Anderson Silva who got paid $90,000 for his fight against Franklin. Now Silva is a complete animal and is destroying all his opponents in a very decisive way. Now Cuban comes and says he’ll give you 1.75 million a fight to go to HDNet and fight there. what would you do. Cuban has the money to do it and is a great businessman. Dana needs to wake up and realize that the UFC may have created the beast but there are others that can make it just as exciting as they can.

 
Comment by dana's cheap
2007-12-22 13:29:54

mayweather will never fight in the ufc. Do you really think that cheap butt dana will pay him what he’s used to. the guy makes 30 million a fight. most main card fighters in the ufc don’t even make 30,000 dollars a fight. Cuban though on the other hand.

 
Comment by Anthony
2007-12-22 13:35:23

I think Floyd is a superior athlete with incredible focus and determination. If he truly put his heart into wanting to succeed in MMA then I think he’ll align himself with a top notch trainer and become average on the ground within a year and more like Chuck where he’s just incredible at sprawling and avoiding the take downs. If he wants to do it, I’m sure he’d be good at it.

 
Comment by Uncle Tom
2007-12-22 13:42:30

I cant believe many people are sticking up for mayweather. Did everyone forget all the shit he said about mma. I hope he fights a guy like Urijah Faber, and ground and pounds his lights out.

 
Comment by Matt
2007-12-22 13:43:41

[quote post=”4299″]mayweather will never fight in the ufc. Do you really think that cheap butt dana will pay him what he’s used to. the guy makes 30 million a fight. most main card fighters in the ufc don’t even make 30,000 dollars a fight. Cuban though on the other hand. [/quote]
Very true. It may require decades of MMA to come remotely close to boxing purses. Tyson was making insane purses in the 90’s - maybe 40 to 50 times more than somebody like Anderson Silva. Obviously, boxing is not so dead - but Dana White, a shrewd business man, wants the public to believe it.

 
Comment by dia mette
2007-12-22 13:45:01

This is good news depending on how you look at it, A guy like cuban can do anything he wants and if the price is right Mayweather will fight in a cage. you have to remember at the end of the day its business all about money, they would not put floyd up against a ground specialist they will put him in with opponets that he will for sure be able to beat.

Floyd is obviously very athletic and has the best hands in all combat sports so he would need to learn an effective sprawl and some submision defense and then cuban will put him in with the right opponents.

Just like the atricle said floyd made as much as the UFC made all year in two fights. If and when floyd is the main event for hdnet fights it will draw all the mma fans and all the boxing fans because they will be curious to see how he does. This would take HD fights to the top. While Dana and the UFC are losing fighters left and right because they dont want to pay thier fighters. UFC has peaked and now Mark Cuban is just getting started to take his org to another level.

 
Comment by Mr_Dan
2007-12-22 13:45:37

ever since i got deeply in to mma, i really havent been following boxing too much, its just too slow compared to mma. ive seen floyds last fight, and i think itd be very interesting to see if he can make the transition to MMA, id really like to see it.. i love seeing 1 demensional fighters try to make the plunge into mma, such as brock lesner and tito ortiz, and hopefully one day to join the list maywheather and most of all KURT ANGEL!!! come on, who wouldnt want to see kurt angel in the ufc.. thatd be so kick ass and i dont even know why, but it would be.. lol

 
Comment by MrAngry
2007-12-22 14:02:31

I pray he does have the guts to do MMA cos I’d love some bad ass make him not so pretty :)

 
Comment by ntvman
2007-12-22 14:06:11

[quote comment=”242052″][quote comment=”242049″]I hope he does. I want to see someone put him in a triangle, lol,jk. I just can’t understand why he would throw all that money away, to fight in MMA. There is no way that anyone can pay him the way Boxing does…[/quote]

Cuban can.[/quote]
..You really think Cuban will throw that much money at a guy who will get tapped out in 1 minute?..well, i understad. Maybe Cuban will sign him for one fight?…

 
Comment by mike
2007-12-22 14:17:31

guys, we are talking about possibly one of the greatest boxers of all time. and if he won gold in the olympics, (he was screwed on the bronze medal match which was officially disputed.) we might even be saying that. he is a work-a-holic, and has proved everything there is to be proved in boxing. i dont think hed be dumb enough to walk into a fight with no ground work. the only problem i think he’d face is he’d have to walk away from a lot of his current trainers. He’d have to learn boxing for mma, from completely different guys, hed have to learn wrestling, change a lot of his muscle memory, and hed have to learn himself some bjj. This is a guy who his whole life has done one sport. boxing, no basketball, no football, no cricket.just boxing. change isn’t easy, and if he is looking for a challenge he’ll find one.

 
Comment by WENDELL
2007-12-22 14:22:58

If Floyd get a punch in its done, no matter who he would fight. He can hit harder than anyone in mma. The fact is that he will get taken down by anyone who has bjj skills. He would have to train for awhile just to get used to being on his back.

 
Comment by Druby Sunshine
2007-12-22 14:36:38

Lets think realistically.

1- Cuban pays Maywheather 30 million for 1 fight..This will give HUGE exposure for the 1 fight and draw in millions of fans and Huge coverage on ESPN and other major news outlets. This kind of exposure is priceless.

2- Cuban shows he’s willing to pay top dollar for fighters. Giving Maywheather 30 mill would show he’ll take care of his fighters. When top UFC guys get only 200,000-300,000 a fight dont you think if Cuban starts offering 2-3 million per fight he’ll eventually attract a higher quality of fighters which leads to higher competition.

3- Everyone who says Maywheather will get submitted or destroyed in a minute is CRAZY. Do you really think for 30 million Cuban would be so stupid to throw Maywheather a Ju Jitsu or Wrestling stud??? Come on we all know how the sport works Cuban would Match up Floyd with a washed up kickboxer or boxer who has horrible ground skills if any and the guy will be a can. This will lead to a stand up battle where Floyd with those small gloves would DESTROY and pick apart the garbage fighter he’d be facing. It wouldnt prove Maywheather can make it in MMA with top notch guys and it wouldnt prove the boxing vs MMA debate, but one thing it would do it attract a shitload of publicity and exposure. Seriously would anyone here NOT watch that fight?? IDC if he was fighting Joe Shit the Rag Man im tuning in to see Floyd in a cage with small gloves regardless.

4- Floyd brings a big name and endless ESPN coverage to HDfights which is again priceless. Cuban puts in a 30 million dollar investment for priceless coverage and publicity from all the major news and sports news stations. It would be one of the biggest sports stories of the year. The best pound for pound boxer in the world in his PRIME stepping into the MMA world. You cant put a price on that story. Not to mention all the fighters who will flock to Cuban for their big pay day. Remember the guy is a Billionaire and one of the Top 10 richest people in the WORLD. He can pay w/e the hell he wants.

All in all this is a story that has legs and itll be interesting to see where it leads. All I know is Cuban and his money can make some serious noise in the MMA world and Dana White better stop thinking no1 can touch the UFC b/c Cuban poses some serious competition.

 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2007-12-22 14:39:17

IMO the odds of him actually fighting are really low. He’s never even trained in MMA before and he can make a lot of coin boxing. It doesn’t make sense. This is just Mayweather scratching Cuban’s back. I could see him working with Cuban in some capacity though. It’s just PR. If I was a die hard boxing purist, I would be really upset by the fact that Mayweather is even putting MMA in a positive light.

 
Comment by Dom
2007-12-22 14:40:01

Floyd’s last fight did half as many PPVs as expected(Even though this was a huge amount). And that was arguably due to HBO’s marketing. Will people really want to tune in to watch Floyd fight 145lb Bo Cantrells?

Besides, how well would he really do? He’d be forced to use his boxing against most people, but would his fragile hands hold up with those 4 ounce gloves on? And half of his boxing strategy (Rope a doping and puting his head through the ropes) would be completely in-effective in MMA.

And LOL @ Wendell, Floyd has never been a power puncher.

 
Comment by ntvman
2007-12-22 14:47:29

“3- Everyone who says Maywheather will get submitted or destroyed in a minute is CRAZY. Do you really think for 30 million Cuban would be so stupid to throw Maywheather a Ju Jitsu or Wrestling stud??? Come on we all know how the sport works Cuban would Match up Floyd with a washed up kickboxer or boxer who has horrible ground skills if any and the guy will be a can. This will lead to a stand up battle where Floyd with those small gloves would DESTROY and pick apart the garbage fighter he’d be facing. It wouldnt prove Maywheather can make it in MMA with top notch guys and it wouldnt prove the boxing vs MMA debate, but one thing it would do it attract a shitload of publicity and exposure. Seriously would anyone here NOT watch that fight?? IDC if he was fighting Joe Shit the Rag Man im tuning in to see Floyd in a cage with small gloves regardless.”

Yeah i was thinking the same thing…And thats that

 
Comment by GangOfOne
2007-12-22 14:56:03

I think he’s just a greedy mother f’ker. (”Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money.”) I don’t want to see a fighter get into the octagon because he wants to be rich. I want to see a fighter get into the octagon because he wants to fight. That’s what the UFC fights were about before the big paydays happened.

I have no problem with fighters being paid enough to make a good living at it. I just have a problem with people getting stinkin’ filthy rich doing it. As soon as the big boatloads of money start coming in, most people start losing their edge. If the UFC is just going to be millionaire vs. millionaire, I need to find another brand of MMA to put my PPV dollars into.

 
Comment by b.w.
2007-12-22 14:56:11

[quote comment=”242071″][quote post=”4299″]mayweather will never fight in the ufc. Do you really think that cheap butt dana will pay him what he’s used to. the guy makes 30 million a fight. most main card fighters in the ufc don’t even make 30,000 dollars a fight. Cuban though on the other hand. [/quote]
Very true. It may require decades of MMA to come remotely close to boxing purses. Tyson was making insane purses in the 90’s - maybe 40 to 50 times more than somebody like Anderson Silva. Obviously, boxing is not so dead - but Dana White, a shrewd business man, wants the public to believe it.[/quote]
not all boxers make millions per fight, just a select few handfull. the guys fighting on espn2 fnf are only making thousands. plus this is why boxing is in the toilet. contenders wont fight each other for fear of not getting a alphabet soup title shot. if cuban starts overpaying fighters, they wont want to fight as often and wont be as hungry. i dont think cuban is that dumb a businessman as to spend millions and not turn a fast profit.

 
Comment by god
2007-12-22 15:07:50

He is a fucking loser and i hope he doesn’t get into MMA at not…..its better without him..

 
Comment by junior
2007-12-22 15:20:37

Come on guys. This is typical Mayweather stuff. Don’t forget this is Floyd…the king of marketing and hand picking his opponents. He’ll never fight a real MMA fight ever…no matter how much money. His ego is too bit to consider possibly losing. That’s why he continues to hand pick his fights against smaller, less threatening fighters. You won’t see him in MMA and you won’t see him against a big, strong fighter like Kermit Cintron. He’s all talk when it comes to anything but…hand picking little 140lb guys…noone who can actually kick his ass! Cintron would kick his ass in the boxing ring or in MMA…there’s a thought…if he’s afraid to face him in the boxing ring…let’s get them together in MMA.

 
Comment by Saint Gasoline
2007-12-22 16:03:11

If you ask me, this will do little to further a huge competitive advantage against the UFC for Cuban’’s little outfit.

The best that can happen is that they’ll get a huge payday (nowhere near $200 million, though, as the caliber of fighter Mayweather will be facing won’t be a De La Hoya). And if Mayweather loses the fight, that just ends the cash cow right there–Mayweather is a great boxer, but folds under mediocre pressure in MMA. And, let’s face it, unless they put Mayweather in there with a straight kickboxer, he’ll likely get taken straight to the ground and beaten like a rag doll. This means they’ll likely put him in against someone amateurish with no ground game, to protect the investment. This will have the effect of dousing sales, sort of like a fight between Ali and some Japanese wrestler.

Personally, though, I’d tune in if they put him up against a decent fighter with a good ground game, setting up Floyd for the slaughter.

 
Comment by Holdin_Ropes
2007-12-22 16:23:00

Mayweather top boxer but will get destroyed in the cage end of.

Mayweather will probaly spar with an average MMA fighter and realise he’s in deep sh1t, never mind the big guns.

 
Comment by Holdin_Ropes
2007-12-22 16:25:45

This is Cuban trying to get some publicity don’t take it seriously.

Personally I think this whole story is a sham, the fighter with the biggest mouth in the world isn’t quoted once in this entire article, the only one speaking is Mark Cuban.

 
Comment by MrAngry
2007-12-22 16:41:16

[quote comment=”242099″] He can hit harder than anyone in mma.[/quote]

Say what!! Keep dreaming. He’d get owned big style by any MMA guy not paid to fall down and tap out!

 
Comment by TraF
2007-12-22 16:47:39

hahaha i wanna see him take on Matt Hughes

 
Comment by MrAngry
2007-12-22 16:51:28

GSP would turn his pretty face into a car wreck :)

 
Comment by dana's cheap
2007-12-22 17:01:31

[quote comment=”242190″]GSP would turn his pretty face into a car wreck :)[/quote]

Right know he would. But Mayweather is a great athlete. Probably even better than the UFC’s best athlete who coincidentally is GSP. IF MAYWEATHER TRAINS HARD IN HIS GROUND GAME HE COULD BEAT GSP IN A COUPLE YEARS. Oh yeah that and he’d have to gain about 30 pounds.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-12-22 17:21:58

Din Thomas Would Destroy Mayweather .. Infact He Said He Wanted To. So Once Din Is All Healed Up And Ready I Want To See This Fight.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-12-22 17:25:21

[quote comment=”242099″]If Floyd get a punch in its done, no matter who he would fight. He can hit harder than anyone in mma. The fact is that he will get taken down by anyone who has bjj skills. He would have to train for awhile just to get used to being on his back.[/quote]

Quinton Rampage Jackson Hits Harder Then Anyone In The World. Including tiny floyd mayweather

 
Comment by IceMuncher
2007-12-22 18:01:19

[quote comment=”242200″][quote comment=”242190″]GSP would turn his pretty face into a car wreck :)[/quote]

Right know he would. But Mayweather is a great athlete. Probably even better than the UFC’s best athlete who coincidentally is GSP. IF MAYWEATHER TRAINS HARD IN HIS GROUND GAME HE COULD BEAT GSP IN A COUPLE YEARS. Oh yeah that and he’d have to gain about 30 pounds.[/quote]

Proficiency in one sport doesn’t mean you’d be great at a different sport. Different skillsets, different emphasis, different types of athletes. Just ask Jordan. Just because you’re the best basketball player of all time doesn’t mean you could be a pro baseball player, even if you really wanted to be.

Nothing in boxing is similiar to wrestling or BJJ. PBF would be completely out of his element, and have to start from scratch. He’d have to lose the boxing stance. He also wouldn’t be able to outpoint fighters standing for a decision win, since his weak jabs won’t win a round if and when his opponent gets a takedown and lays some decent GnP.

 
Comment by momo
2007-12-22 18:09:33

“As far as the Floyd Mayweather to MMA story, few are taking it seriously, but it was a smart publicity ploy for Mark Cuban to get his venture in the news. As far as the idea of bringing in Mayweather to help coach fighters and garner publicity for those fighters, that’s logical. As far as him fighting MMA against a serious opponent, that’s not happening. Throughout history, major negotiations have gone on for boxers to do mixed style matches against wrestlers, and as far as major names, in every case but one, they fell through and the key has always been elimination of techniques the boxer isn’t familiar with. For example, in Vince McMahon’s talks with Lennox Lewis over a Brock Lesnar match five years ago, Lewis’ side wanted to eliminate takedowns below the waist and have a very short time fame (like 20 seconds) on the ground before a stand-up. When Tommy Morrison recently fought MMA, the rules were changed at the last minute to turn it into a boxing match with small gloves.”

Posted in today’s Wrestling Observer Update by Dave Meltzer.

 
Comment by cyborgassassin
2007-12-22 18:10:02

I really dont like this…The UFC cant pay the fighter millions because its still growing and really cant afford it..not because Dana’s cheap…(HDnet fights) is a Lame ass name..UFC is awesome and I hope the fighters stay faithful and allow the ufc to continue its growth..Mark my words if the “UFC” dies it wont ever be the same…im dead serious. Floyd could really be the death of “Good Honorable MMA”

you dont have to agree with me its my personal feelings..and im worried HD net fights is gonna be $$$$ and bul$hit! and the UFC that we all love will fizzle and YES we will miss it MORE than we missed PRIDEFC…..sigh…

 
Comment by Gregg
2007-12-22 18:14:57

He’ll get his ass kicked but that’s ok with me because he’s a complete jerk. I don’t even think he will be hard to shoot because like all boxers he carelessly moves his leg forward when he jabs. MMA will get tons of exposure and when a third tier mma fighter destroys the best pound for pound boxer, maybe in history, everyone will know who the toughest men on the planet are.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-22 18:18:01

How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-22 18:24:26

[quote comment=”242255″][quote comment=”242200″][quote comment=”242190″]GSP would turn his pretty face into a car wreck :)[/quote]

Right know he would. But Mayweather is a great athlete. Probably even better than the UFC’s best athlete who coincidentally is GSP. IF MAYWEATHER TRAINS HARD IN HIS GROUND GAME HE COULD BEAT GSP IN A COUPLE YEARS. Oh yeah that and he’d have to gain about 30 pounds.[/quote]

Proficiency in one sport doesn’t mean you’d be great at a different sport. Different skillsets, different emphasis, different types of athletes. Just ask Jordan. Just because you’re the best basketball player of all time doesn’t mean you could be a pro baseball player, even if you really wanted to be.

Nothing in boxing is similiar to wrestling or BJJ. PBF would be completely out of his element, and have to start from scratch. He’d have to lose the boxing stance. He also wouldn’t be able to outpoint fighters standing for a decision win, since his weak jabs won’t win a round if and when his opponent gets a takedown and lays some decent GnP.[/quote]
Goodn points. Mayweather would never be able to hang in wrestling with GSP, and never avoid gettin has back taken by Penn.
In stand up, im sure he would translate well, just like Belfort did, really well, but it’s still not the same and other top strikers like GSP or Penn would hang no problem I bet.
All in all, I think he would do really well, but I don’t think he would ever get a title shot.

 
Comment by Uncle Tom
2007-12-22 18:35:45

I think i would be able to beat Mayweathers ass!!!!!
(thanks to my wrestling and bjj experience)

 
Comment by whammy
2007-12-22 18:50:28

just feed him to sean sherk and get it over with.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-22 18:59:00

[quote comment=”242290″]just feed him to sean sherk and get it over with.[/quote]
Penn is the new LW champ, thus retaining any rights to be compared or debated to any other LW, or LW variable.

 
Comment by dia mette
2007-12-22 19:05:39

[quote comment=”242267″]How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing.[/quote]

Dont forget the all impertant b level fighter payday’s and how they will feel, Those guys barley make enough money to cover thier expenses I saw an interview where Royce Gracie said that he won $50,000 for winning UFC 2 and that they used to get around 10,000 per fight and was the mid 1990’s and now over 15 years later thier are even C level fighters making $3 to 5,000 per fight (they dont even get covered for medical expenses for injuries incurred from training and fights) I dont care if you dont factor in bonuses thats pathetc.

Mark Cuban will change the whole structure of the sport

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-22 19:12:26

[quote comment=”242304″][quote comment=”242267″]How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing.[/quote]

Dont forget the all impertant b level fighter payday’s and how they will feel, Those guys barley make enough money to cover thier expenses

I saw an interview where Royce Gracie said that he won $50,000 for winning UFC 2 and that they used to get around 10,000 per fight and was the mid 1990’s and now over 15 years later thier are even C level fighters making $3 to 5,000 per fight (they dont even get covered for medical expenses for injuries incurred from training and fights) I dont care if you dont factor in bonuses thats pathetc.

Mark Cuban will change the whole structure of the sport[/quote]
Also remeber it was an eight man tournament, like once a year. There are a lot more guys competing now, against each other not only to win fights but for pay.
It still sucks though, and yeah hopefully Cuban can be the one that forces the UFC to the next level.

 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2007-12-22 20:26:36

This is strictly a publicity stunt by Cuban and Mayweather’s manager. Mayweather isn’t even directly quoted in the article. Cuban will not outsmart the Fertitta’s.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-22 21:05:23

[quote comment=”242312″][quote comment=”242304″][quote comment=”242267″]How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing.[/quote]

Dont forget the all impertant b level fighter payday’s and how they will feel, Those guys barley make enough money to cover thier expenses

I saw an interview where Royce Gracie said that he won $50,000 for winning UFC 2 and that they used to get around 10,000 per fight and was the mid 1990’s and now over 15 years later thier are even C level fighters making $3 to 5,000 per fight (they dont even get covered for medical expenses for injuries incurred from training and fights) I dont care if you dont factor in bonuses thats pathetc.

Mark Cuban will change the whole structure of the sport[/quote]
Also remeber it was an eight man tournament, like once a year. There are a lot more guys competing now, against each other not only to win fights but for pay.
It still sucks though, and yeah hopefully Cuban can be the one that forces the UFC to the next level.[/quote]

Mark for sure when entered his name into the MMa world..MMA was shifted. This guy will dish out money for every level fighter..Dana and Zuffa will have to make a counter move..or link up with Cuban..which I doubt. UFC 79 looks like a great card with all that years in making build up and stuff..then UFC 80 looks like crap..nothing special..BJ can`t be the whole card..with a few crap cards a year the ufc will be slowing down their own growth..while MArk Cuban is pulling Floyd to HDfights..his networks is putting MMA sport on top burner..picture a Floyd MMA fight…what the ratings would be..I believe the MMA sports needs more then the ufc to be the number1 mainstream sport from being outlawed a few years ago. I see this sport go thru the roof. MSG MMA fights …the works. I`m happy Cuban does to MMA what he did with the MAvs.

 
Comment by Emanuel Gomez
2007-12-22 22:07:00

Keep the leeches out of MMA. Guys like that will turn MMA into boxing in a matter of years. Eventually top fighters wont want to fight each other and we will only see fights like lidell v.s silva or st. pierre v.s hughes only once or twice a year. I really doubt mayweather would fight any top light weights or feather weights like penn, faber, and sherk, his undefeated professional record means to much to him. Global domination for the UFC i hope they crush mark cuban.

 
Comment by nate diaz
2007-12-22 22:47:04

pretty boy wont fight MMA
i have a lot of respect for him as a fighter and guys like him and de la hoya can do a great job at promoting a fight

he may be a spokesman for cuban and may even train some guys

mayweather is now so rich that he can do whatever he likes

i suspect what he wants is to be a star and will keep having a couple of boxing matches per year

delahoya rematch maybe a hatton rematch in england
struggling to think of any other fighter who would be a big enough ppv draw to tempt him into the ring

no one in their right mind who was the greatest pound 4 pound boxing champion and also possibly the last boxing superstar who is worth hundreds of millions of dollars would ever step into a cage fight with a decent fighter

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-23 00:01:33

I hope Mayweather does fight an MMA bout. I really was angered when Jack Lampley “dissed” the sport of MMA in front of MILLIONS of people watching his Stupid A$$ talk after the MAYWEATHER/DE LA HOYA fight. His comments were uncalled for and childish. I would love to see Boxing’s main man jump ship and prove to the IGNORANT LAMPLEY that the SPORT of MMA is here to stay.

 
Comment by NewGuyTheGunMan
2007-12-23 00:14:20

He can train all the BJJ he wants, it wont mean shit. he is to old to start training BJJ, he may learn it, but I gurantee it would never become 2nd nature to him. And through him in against anderson silva… what a joke… Id give him 2 rounds KO or Sub it doesn’t matter.

 
Comment by Spawn
2007-12-23 01:31:56

why is everyone saying he would get his ass handed to him by ? he’d be too small to face them to begin with.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-12-23 01:38:38

Cuban can do whatever he wants to do. If he had the means to run over the UFC, he very well could.

 
Comment by KaveDaddt
2007-12-23 01:59:24

quite the salary cut, and more cuts to your face. will not be pretty anymore.

 
Comment by kitsunex
2007-12-23 01:59:57

[quote comment=”242075″]ever since i got deeply in to mma, i really havent been following boxing too much, its just too slow compared to mma. ive seen floyds last fight, and i think itd be very interesting to see if he can make the transition to MMA, id really like to see it.. i love seeing 1 demensional fighters try to make the plunge into mma, such as brock lesner and tito ortiz, and hopefully one day to join the list maywheather and most of all KURT ANGEL!!! come on, who wouldnt want to see kurt angel in the ufc.. thatd be so kick ass and i dont even know why, but it would be.. lol[/quote]fc
Not gonna happen. Kurt has said point blank on inside mms that he’ll never work in the Ufc. But he has said he wants to do mmas
because he’s been a fan since FC 1. He even said he wants to train with bas ruten. He basically same he’s just waiting for someone to hand him a stack of cash

 
Comment by Ray
2007-12-23 02:48:32

It will never happen, Mayweather will never give up his guaranteed 30-35 million to fight for what he’d consider peanuts.

 
Comment by Korean Avenger
2007-12-23 03:55:40

All this yammering reminds me about who would win in an open match between Freddy Kruger, Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, and Ash. It’s sensationalist nonsensical crap, and all it’s doing is drawing the WRONG kind of attention to Mixed Martial Arts.

1) Floyd Mayweather, jr. maybe a great fighter, but I stopped following boxing a LONG time ago. The only reason I know about him is that he talks a lot of bullshit about MMA and that HBO puts out a staggering amount of publicity about him with ads, reality shows, and actual PPV boxing matches. Well that, and he also talks a lot of shit about MMA, but if HBO can convince the world that Sarah Jessica Parker is sexy and not a horse-faced crack whore, they sure as shit can convince the world that boxing is a lot bigger and more relevant than the near-comatose sport it really is.

2) Most of Floyd Mayweather, jr.’s sentiments about MMA are well known to us all, and he may or may not be smart enough to know that even someone with experience in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or even Aikido could cripple him regardless of whatever money Mark Cuban is waving at this fucking moron.

3) There’s no way in Hell a 7-or 8-figure investment in Maywether could pay off for the amount of training and time that he would have to undergo in order to not only understand the many theories behind the different disciplines in MMA, but to develop the reptilian brain he’d need NOT to be an embarassment to boxing, to MMA, and to whatever idiot is going to invest that kind of dough in ONE fighter.

4) Assuming that Mayweather, jr. has a heretofore untapped appreciation of MMA (and that he was just acting the fool), and assuming he’s wise enought know that he’d get his ass handed to him by a competent MMA fighter, who the Hell would have him as their trainer? He may know loads about boxing, and he may be a great boxer, but that’s just one part of the skills a good MMA fighter can bring to a match. I’d rather pay Gabe Rudiger to teach me how to lose weight than solicit Mayweather for advice on ANYTHING in the context of an MMA fight. Shit, I’d rather train with a simple bitch like Joey Scrote-ola than with Mayweather, jr.

5) Mark Cuban may be a rich bastard, and he may have a growing multimedia empire, but if the dotcom bubble implosion has taught us anything, it’s to treat things with a lot more caution. If he really wanted to have a meaningful impact on MMA for a lot more than being the jackanape who hemoraged boocoo bucks for jackshit returns on a one shot fight, he’d think about investing that amount of money into legalizing MMA in ALL 50 States. It can happen, and it will happen, but for here and now, I’d love to see someone like Cung Le redefine Mayweather, jr.’s anatomy.

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2007-12-23 04:03:01

[quote comment=”242065″]can’t anyone here just appreciate Mayweather for what he is? The best P4P fighter in boxing. Everyone is comparing apples and oranges here. Maybe he would get crushed in the Octagon but i Guarantee he can probably destroy most in a boxing ring. Give the guy his due. with all the talk about boxing being dead might wanna look at the fact that Mayweather brought in 200 million in PPV $$$ for 2 fights!!! No one in the UFC is that big of a draw. You can say it was all because of Hatton and De Le Hoya but the fact of the matter is that those guys would never have brought in that kind of cash if they were fighting anyone other than Mayweather. Stop comparing apples to ranges.

The Ufc may want to start paying their guys a little better. Mark Cuban has the cash to make a lot of fighters switch sides. Imagine being Anderson Silva who got paid $90,000 for his fight against Franklin. Now Silva is a complete animal Now Cuban comes and says he’ll give you 1.75 million a fight to go to HDNet and fight there. what would you do. Cuban and is destroying all his opponents in a very decisive way. has the money to do it and is a great businessman. Dana needs to wake up and realize that the UFC may have created the beast but there are others that can make it just as exciting as they can.[/quote]

I give Mayweather his due, in the boxing ring and PPV draw…. but that’s where it ends… he won’t step into an MMA fight… no way, not for money, challenge or glory. It’s just not in him. He’s tough as a boxer, but he couldn’t take his ass getting whipped here n’ there in MMA in order to become a great MMA fighter… all MMA fighters lose and take a beating one time or another, especially when they’re coming up… now if he want’s to promote MMA fighters or HDNet fights or use his boxing skills to train fighters, or anything in that respect… cool. but no way is he going to choose to stand in there with an elite MMA fighter.. no way.

 
Comment by MrAngry
2007-12-23 09:46:34

100% never happen. Mayweather’s all mouth. And yes a great boxer, but he will never be any good at MMA not a prayer

 
Comment by DirtbagHtr
2007-12-23 14:54:28

If that were to happen (doubtful), then Don King will jump on the bandwagon, and people will start saying MMA is fixed. That’s the reason why I watch MMA, the fighters fight and they’re hungry wins and title shots, not for “show”. In boxing they stage press conferences, and always end in a riff, not MMA.. Yes there may be some trash talking, but thats anywhere. I just don’t want to see fighters walk out to the ring with their entire families, trainers, friends, and gold diggers, like Tyson had. Lastly, I don’t want to hear “Only in America” in MMA. Floyd should just shut up unless he actually signs a contract, I’ll bet the ranch that he won’t.

 
Comment by daniel
2007-12-23 16:04:58

wow hes an idiot theres mma fighters in the ufc making 4000$ a fight that can murder mayweather in the octagon how the hell can he expect to make the 20 million that he makes in boxing

 
Comment by Phil
2007-12-23 17:12:13

yeah….to the guy who said that cuban is one of the top 10 richest people in the world, not even close. he’s actually somewhere in the 400’s with a net worth of 2.3 billion. a lot of money by all means, but nowhere near top 10. his money will run out eventually. a really good person for mma would actually be roman abramovitch, countryman of fedor. with roman’s money he could probaby buy out fedor’s contract from M-1 and pay whoever he wants whatever he wants

 
Comment by Phil
2007-12-23 17:12:57

Abramovich i mean

 
Comment by RearNakedSlam
2007-12-23 18:19:02

I learned my lesson about one dimensional fighters when I thought that Kit Cope would be on the fast track to the belt.

I don’t care how great he is at boxing, he is going to get rolled over unless he adds some other elements to his game.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2007-12-24 14:27:04

[quote post=”4299″]How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing. [/quote]
It could kill the sport. Paying MMA fighters 10, 20, 30 million. “How well can you eat.” - Tom Hanks
How hungry would they be if they made that kind of money. How many people think Huerta would fight 5 times in one year. Not to say that he should fight 5, but champs would only fight maybe once a year if they were making that kind of money. Each weight class would have to be moved up at least 10 pounds because… have you seen the way the TUF guys eat on the show when the food is in their face. Imagine what they’d eat if they had millions. Don’t get me wrong, I think the champs deserve a million dollars, and the top contenders deserve six figures… but if they start making boxing money, I think MMA could go down the toilet the way boxing has. Then it’s all about the money, and not about the competition.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2007-12-24 14:31:30

Mayweather vs. K-Flo… would be over early 1st round with Mayweather tapping. Let it be the first co-promotional fight between UFC and HDNET with Cuban paying 10 million to the losing Mayweather and Dana paying K-Flo 25 thousand for the fight, 25 thousand for the win, and 25 thousand for the submission of the night for a grand total of 75 thousand… less than 1/100th of what Cuban pays Mayweather.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-24 16:19:46

[quote comment=”243830″][quote post=”4299″]How will the topUFC-MMa fighters feel when Pretty Boy gets a MMA pay day of a sweet 30million when Rampage and the Gsp`s a getting a half to a million tops. That sitr things up I`m sure..if he trains a guts cool..if he step into a cage..I hope he gets a killa..to get his dose of reality to the elements of fighting not just the boxing. [/quote]
It could kill the sport. Paying MMA fighters 10, 20, 30 million. “How well can you eat.” - Tom Hanks
How hungry would they be if they made that kind of money. How many people think Huerta would fight 5 times in one year. Not to say that he should fight 5, but champs w