Comments on: Report: UFC turns down M-1 offer to stage Randy Couture vs. Fedor Emelianenko fight http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:50:10 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sam O'Donald http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-4/#comment-248245 Sam O'Donald Sat, 29 Dec 2007 06:33:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-248245 This is some crazyness either way. The two guys that need to be fighting for the opening as Heavyweight champ is Jake O'Brien and Kimbo Slice. Jake O'Brien just told zig@TotalSportsTalk.com that he could beat Kimbo Slice up now and when Kimbo Slice becomes a better fighter. This is some crazyness either way. The two guys that need to be fighting for the opening as Heavyweight champ is Jake O’Brien and Kimbo Slice. Jake O’Brien just told zig@TotalSportsTalk.com that he could beat Kimbo Slice up now and when Kimbo Slice becomes a better fighter.

]]> By: Sac,CA-MMA Fighter http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-244775 Sac,CA-MMA Fighter Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:43:58 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-244775 Dana white wants to make all the money so he can keep most of it and pay his fighters crap. Randy dosn't want to fight Fedor because he already has a bad track record against heavyweights. yeah 'napo' was a legit heavyweight and I feel that that fight was stoped early and Tim sylvia is just a big body, not a well rounded mma fighter. Fedor is a great MMA fighter top mma heavyweight in the world. Randy would make it a great fight but will fall short. Dana dosent want fedor in the UFC because he feels that fedor will dominate like he did in PRIDE, who's gonna beat fedor, brock lesnar, NO! Dana white wants to make all the money so he can keep most of it and pay his fighters crap. Randy dosn’t want to fight Fedor because he already has a bad track record against heavyweights. yeah ‘napo’ was a legit heavyweight and I feel that that fight was stoped early and Tim sylvia is just a big body, not a well rounded mma fighter. Fedor is a great MMA fighter top mma heavyweight in the world. Randy would make it a great fight but will fall short. Dana dosent want fedor in the UFC because he feels that fedor will dominate like he did in PRIDE, who’s gonna beat fedor, brock lesnar, NO!

]]> By: ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-242768 ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:44:01 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-242768 [quote comment="242669"]You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He's not just another Giant Silva...There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner...[/quote] boy o boy im impressed with him hanging with lebanner,,,,,man these guys are BUMS....including fedor they [mm1] are a bunch of bums why do you think fedor signed there? it was only to keep his record from getting blotched...he is a freaking BUM...BUM..i cant say it enough! [quote comment="242669"]You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He’s not just another Giant Silva…There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner…[/quote]
boy o boy im impressed with him hanging with lebanner,,,,,man these guys are BUMS….including fedor they [mm1] are a bunch of bums why do you think fedor signed there? it was only to keep his record from getting blotched…he is a freaking BUM…BUM..i cant say it enough!

]]> By: JB http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-242669 JB Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:34:54 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-242669 You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He's not just another Giant Silva...There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner... You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He’s not just another Giant Silva…There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner…

]]> By: The Anomaly http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-242212 The Anomaly Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:15:00 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-242212 God I hope this fight happens. Just to smite the big guys, and motivate them never to let something big go, ever again. God I hope this fight happens. Just to smite the big guys, and motivate them never to let something big go, ever again.

]]> By: The Truth http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-242170 The Truth Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:23:42 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-242170 [quote comment="239994"][quote comment="239859"]as much as this fight would be great. i hope the UFC squashes M-1. i'm all for the UFC becming as prominent and ESTABLISHED as the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB. i don't need this fight.[/quote] EXACTLY. Competition in sports is only good when it's all under the same roof. The reason we know the best teams and players in the major sports is because they all play in the same league, and if they don't they sure as hell want to. Nobody grows up wanting to play arena football, they want to play in the NFL. When the NFL hold an exhibition game with the Super Bowl champs playing the winner of the NCAA national title, then maybe there is an argument as to why this fight should happen. But until then (which would be right around the time hell freezes over) people whining about UFC not "giving the fans what they want" can cry about it, because at this point I sure as hell don't want it anymore. Randy isn't the champ anymore, he gave it up. Fedor is playing in the minor leagues. I can see the headline for the PPV now: Wash-Up vs. Wash-Up. At least when the UFC wanted to cross promote with Pride, one could argue Pride was a major league. M-1 is a joke at this point, and will continue to be a joke when the main event has "the best fighter in the world" fighting a huge Korean guy that doesn't stop growing and a record of a whopping 1-0 in MMA. If MMA is going to become an accepted mainstream sport, there has to be one (and only one) major league (or promotion in this case). If it isn't going to be the UFC, as an MMA fan I'd be very worried. To truly put the fans first, you have to do what's good for the sport overall, especially considering this is a growing sport. Cross promoting with some 2-bit startup promotion is not good for the UFC, and you all can disagree as much as you want with what I'm about to say: What is not good for the UFC is not good for MMA. And inversely, what is good for the UFC is good for MMA. Randy vs. Fedor as a cross promotion is not good for the UFC, and that's that.[/quote] Dana White is that you? [quote comment="239994"][quote comment="239859"]as much as this fight would be great. i hope the UFC squashes M-1. i’m all for the UFC becming as prominent and ESTABLISHED as the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB.

i don’t need this fight.[/quote]

EXACTLY. Competition in sports is only good when it’s all under the same roof. The reason we know the best teams and players in the major sports is because they all play in the same league, and if they don’t they sure as hell want to. Nobody grows up wanting to play arena football, they want to play in the NFL. When the NFL hold an exhibition game with the Super Bowl champs playing the winner of the NCAA national title, then maybe there is an argument as to why this fight should happen. But until then (which would be right around the time hell freezes over) people whining about UFC not “giving the fans what they want” can cry about it, because at this point I sure as hell don’t want it anymore.

Randy isn’t the champ anymore, he gave it up. Fedor is playing in the minor leagues. I can see the headline for the PPV now: Wash-Up vs. Wash-Up. At least when the UFC wanted to cross promote with Pride, one could argue Pride was a major league. M-1 is a joke at this point, and will continue to be a joke when the main event has “the best fighter in the world” fighting a huge Korean guy that doesn’t stop growing and a record of a whopping 1-0 in MMA.

If MMA is going to become an accepted mainstream sport, there has to be one (and only one) major league (or promotion in this case). If it isn’t going to be the UFC, as an MMA fan I’d be very worried. To truly put the fans first, you have to do what’s good for the sport overall, especially considering this is a growing sport. Cross promoting with some 2-bit startup promotion is not good for the UFC, and you all can disagree as much as you want with what I’m about to say: What is not good for the UFC is not good for MMA. And inversely, what is good for the UFC is good for MMA. Randy vs. Fedor as a cross promotion is not good for the UFC, and that’s that.[/quote]

Dana White is that you?

]]> By: Spawn http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-241996 Spawn Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:41:30 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-241996 [quote comment="241518"][quote comment="241084"]Here is the deal: UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization "M1" would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn't have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn't want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn't want this fight, however from a fan's perspective it sucks![/quote] well chris ... did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won't help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn't beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win[/quote] "it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers." how the heck does that help the UFC? the UFC only cares about THE BOTTOMLINE. this will not help their LONG-TERM BOTTOMLINE. but this setup, contrary to what you just stated will in fact cut into their future earnings and growth if they co-promote this fight and tarnish the UFC brand they've built over the years. it'll screw over all current contracts...and before you know it all their fighters will be dispersed. that's the last thing they want. Fedor vs. Randy ain't worth it. RIP M-1. [quote comment="241518"][quote comment="241084"]Here is the deal:

UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization “M1″ would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn’t have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn’t want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn’t want this fight, however from a fan’s perspective it sucks![/quote]

well chris … did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won’t help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn’t beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win[/quote]
“it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers.”

how the heck does that help the UFC? the UFC only cares about THE BOTTOMLINE. this will not help their LONG-TERM BOTTOMLINE. but this setup, contrary to what you just stated will in fact cut into their future earnings and growth if they co-promote this fight and tarnish the UFC brand they’ve built over the years. it’ll screw over all current contracts…and before you know it all their fighters will be dispersed. that’s the last thing they want.

Fedor vs. Randy ain’t worth it.

RIP M-1.

]]> By: Phil http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-241647 Phil Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:07:39 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-241647 yes jim...we all saw what you posted earlier about fedor cheating to beat lindland. and yes, he did cheat (i've seen it). but if you're going to try and make somebody look stupid, please do it properly. lindland doesn't fight with the ufc anymore, hasn't for a long time. if you want to say hes in any organization it would be the IFL. and chris and everyone else are exactly right, this fight makes NO sense for the UFC from a business perspective. think about it jim. to quote you "lay off the crack" yes jim…we all saw what you posted earlier about fedor cheating to beat lindland. and yes, he did cheat (i’ve seen it). but if you’re going to try and make somebody look stupid, please do it properly. lindland doesn’t fight with the ufc anymore, hasn’t for a long time. if you want to say hes in any organization it would be the IFL. and chris and everyone else are exactly right, this fight makes NO sense for the UFC from a business perspective. think about it jim. to quote you “lay off the crack”

]]> By: jim http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-241518 jim Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:26:56 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-241518 [quote comment="241084"]Here is the deal: UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization "M1" would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn't have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn't want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn't want this fight, however from a fan's perspective it sucks![/quote] well chris ... did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won't help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn't beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win [quote comment="241084"]Here is the deal:

UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization “M1″ would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn’t have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn’t want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn’t want this fight, however from a fan’s perspective it sucks![/quote]

well chris … did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won’t help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn’t beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win

]]> By: Chris http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/comment-page-3/#comment-241084 Chris Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:19:44 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/12/20/report-ufc-turns-down-m-1-offer-to-stage-randy-couture-vs-fedor-emelianenko-fight/#comment-241084 Here is the deal: UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization "M1" would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn't have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn't want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn't want this fight, however from a fan's perspective it sucks! Here is the deal:

UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization “M1″ would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn’t have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn’t want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn’t want this fight, however from a fan’s perspective it sucks!

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