Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald

Not bad idea at all..ièd like to see Bisping fight McDonald..it will make for a nice war..ahhh.maybeÉ

[quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.

Bisping would ruin Mcdonald. Macdonald’s striking is poor and he won’t be able to keep Bisping on the ground as a strong wrestler like Evans found out.

Bisping TKO in the 2nd after dominating the 1st.

bisping wins this fight 8 times out of 10 bisping has vastly improved his takedown defense as he proved in the fight against evans who was a division one wrestler had big troubles trying to get mike down to the ground and once he had him on the ground he had many problems keeping him there. i see bisping winning a dominate unamious decision if this happens and the only reason i see it going the distance is because jason proved he can take a beating in his fight with franklin and if jason wants to fight bisping he will take another beating thats for sure.

I wouldnt mind seeing Kendall Grove vs Michael Bisping

[quote comment=”237599″][quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.[/quote]

Kalib Starnes, Patrick Cote, and Shonie Carter say otherwise

I’d like to see MacDonald pick up an easy win in the UFC to get his confidence back up. Bisbing would be the perfect fight for him to accomplish this. NOT! Bisping by TKO, round 1. Next.

[quote comment=”237612″][quote comment=”237599″][quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.[/quote]

Kalib Starnes, Patrick Cote, and Shonie Carter say otherwise[/quote]
I don’t think any of those fights were in the UFC.

I think it’s a good first fight for him at 185lbs. MacDonald isn’t a “walk over,”…….it would be competitive.

This would be a great fight to add to a potential Montreal UFC venue if the rumors are true. It should also feature Serra vs GSP for the unification bout, since GSP is going to beat Hughes in my opinion. Plus, they should add Fisher vs Stout 3 on that card as well. Time and injury permitting…we may see Cote vs Terry Martin as well on that card since they seem to want to match up. Or, if Cote beats McFiedries, we might even get Cote vs MacDonald match and that would be sweet as well. That would be a solid start for a pretty exciting card with 4 featured Canadians on the card.

BISPING BEATS MAC D, I know Bis is a small 205lb, but that’s hellva weight cut… we’ll see how he handles it.

so basically he says bisping matches up well with him but he couldnt beat silva, henderson, or franklin…i guess he is saying that he sucks too and couldn’t beat those guys..way to go

Jason MacDonald has way too much range for Bisping who would get frustrated with his athleticism. Ask Rich Franklin who he remembers hitting the hardest at 185 … He doesn’t remember getting rocked by Anderson Silva lol.

It’s J Mac

Bisping is nothing more than a glorified poster boy for the UK, Dana knows it and thus uses it to make money in England. May as well drop to the WEC where he would have a better chance winning a title in an organization where the only classes that matter are 135, 145, and 155.

I think MacDonald and Bisping both have a lot to prove and it would be an interesting fight. Kendall Grove wants MacDonald bad, but the UFC may not want to risk another TUF winner losing to a non-ranked fighter, especially to MacDonald who called himself the “TUF killer”. With that said, the UFC needs someone in the middleweight ranks to sting together a few wins in a row so they can have another title contender for lat in ‘08. My guess is Ushin Okami gets the next title shot after Hendo.

Everyone has their speculation, but anything can happen. this would be a great match.

Ironic how MacDonalds echoed most of the comments made a few days back in a prior Posting (Dec.14th “Michael Bisping: Out of the frying pan and into the fire”).

To quote myself:
” Bisping is a bore. He lost to Rashaad, I think he lost to Hamill and he’d get clobbered by Silva (much like everyone else). I also don’t see him being able to hang with Franklin, Okami, MacDonald, Lebman, Lutter, Herman and the list goes on. If you ask me, which you didn’t, he is a lost tweener and he’s just now starting to find out this MMA thing is tough. WEC…ready or not…here he comes.

p.s. Hey Dana…time to call Urijah Faber up to tangle with the big boys of UFC.”

My comment, like many others on that day, seemed to voice a common feeling and now a fighter voices the same sentament. Simply put…wherever Bisping ends up he’s out classed.

Thats why they call him the tuff killer.. hes calling out a tuff winner

I like how MacDonald says that Bisping couldn’t beat Rich Franklin. Well, J-Mac got dominated by Franklin so he would have no room to talk. MacDonald is probably realizing that he needs to get some fights that he can win, so he can stay in the UFC. I honestly don’t think that if he were to get a rematch with Leben, he would win.

MacDonald is a lot better than you guys are giving him credit for. Bisping would be a win for Jason. In the UFC, MacDonald has only lost to Franklin and Okami. Not that shabby. Bisping has lost to Hamill(we all know it).

I would give it to Jason.

J Macdonald chats rubbish, I think he’s got ginger pube syndrome

hmmm, MacDonald vs Bisbing in a Canada UFC event. That would be nice.

Mac vs Bis in montreal at the bell centre would be nuts. i think if mac was fighting in canada he’d win. he’s a confidence fighter, similar to GSP and when he has his head on his shoulders he’s a totally different fighter.

mac in the third!

[quote comment=”237612″][quote comment=”237599″][quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.[/quote]

Kalib Starnes, Patrick Cote, and Shonie Carter say otherwise[/quote]
macdonald has improved a tun sence them fights,not to mention he should have beat cote he was saved by the bell when in jason rear naked choke,not saying he wins but would be a great fight.bisbing should of lost his last to fights

[quote comment=”237612″][quote comment=”237599″][quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.[/quote]

Kalib Starnes, Patrick Cote, and Shonie Carter say otherwise[/quote]

Yeah, especially Kalib. I saw that fight and it was a one-way ass beating.

I like both Bisping and Macdonald, however I think that Bisping’s striking is better.

Macdonald is looking for some pub and calling out a known commodity…bisping would work him over

[quote comment=”237677″][quote comment=”237612″][quote comment=”237599″][quote comment=”237596″]Man, that would be an interesting fight, be close but i would take Bisping over Macdonald[/quote]

Id take Macdonald, I believe he has a perfect record against TUF alumni.[/quote]

Kalib Starnes, Patrick Cote, and Shonie Carter say otherwise[/quote]
macdonald has improved a tun sence them fights,not to mention he should have beat cote he was saved by the bell when in jason rear naked choke,not saying he wins but would be a great fight.bisbing should of lost his last to fights[/quote]

yeah but so has everyone else, Starnes and Cotes ground im sure..you can even see improvement in Leben and Herman from their losses to MacDonald…man thats alot of redheads in the middleweight class

*Off topic*– Mania- did you hear about the Rua brothers leaving ChuteBox?

Link in portuguese:
http://www.chuteboxe.com.br/2007/ind…d=186&Itemid=2

This is a very nice matchup. I think Jason Macdonald would take it in the second. I do want Bisping to prove me wrong though.

Man, I would def. be rooting for Jason, HATE Bisbing with some kind of passion since the Hamill controvercy, but I can’t see McDonald doing anything.
They way I see it, Bisbing at MW would have similiar strength and style to Rich Franklin, and we saw how Rich KILLED the athlete.

Drew -

“p.s. Hey Dana…time to call Urijah Faber up to tangle with the big boys of UFC.”

There isnt a 145lb weight class in UFC! Faber was already beaten by Griffin outside the UFC!

“Simply put…wherever Bisping ends up he’s out classed. ”

That is why he steamrolled through TUF and gave Rashad Evans trouble and lost a decision, not to mention he destroyed the Australian guy who’s name I cant think of.

[quote comment=”237637″]I think MacDonald and Bisping both have a lot to prove and it would be an interesting fight. Kendall Grove wants MacDonald bad, but the UFC may not want to risk another TUF winner losing to a non-ranked fighter, especially to MacDonald who called himself the “TUF killer”. With that said, the UFC needs someone in the middleweight ranks to sting together a few wins in a row so they can have another title contender for lat in ‘08. My guess is Ushin Okami gets the next title shot after Hendo.[/quote]

I guarentee that if Hendo beats Silva, the UFC will call up Paulo Filho from the WEC and give him a title shot because no one in the UFC’s middleweight division deserves one and since Filho wont fight Anderson due to their freindship, Dana is keeping Filho in the WEC until someone other then Silva has the title. Many new fans might not think Filho is qualified because he has looked shaky to say the least in the WEC, but I know him from before that and I wouldnt mind seeing him fight Hendo if Silva were to loose. Its a shame but who else in the UFC 185 lb division deserves a title shot?

would be a good fight…bisping has better stand up, but macdonald has shown a pretty slick ground game.

UFC should do this…apparently, macdonald is fighting in april

Bisping won against rashad he outworked him in everyway. The only thing rashad did was take bisping down and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Bisping was outstriking rashad when he was on the ground seriously….Bisping won that fight but thanks to the retarded scoring in MMA he lost.

Either way i dont see anyone beating bisping at 185 except for anderson&hendo. Paulo Filho im sure could but atm is not with the ufc.

[quote comment=”237748″][quote comment=”237637″]I think MacDonald and Bisping both have a lot to prove and it would be an interesting fight. Kendall Grove wants MacDonald bad, but the UFC may not want to risk another TUF winner losing to a non-ranked fighter, especially to MacDonald who called himself the “TUF killer”. With that said, the UFC needs someone in the middleweight ranks to sting together a few wins in a row so they can have another title contender for lat in ‘08. My guess is Ushin Okami gets the next title shot after Hendo.[/quote]

I guarentee that if Hendo beats Silva, the UFC will call up Paulo Filho from the WEC and give him a title shot because no one in the UFC’s middleweight division deserves one and since Filho wont fight Anderson due to their freindship, Dana is keeping Filho in the WEC until someone other then Silva has the title. Many new fans might not think Filho is qualified because he has looked shaky to say the least in the WEC, but I know him from before that and I wouldnt mind seeing him fight Hendo if Silva were to loose. Its a shame but who else in the UFC 185 lb division deserves a title shot?[/quote]

Filho has 2 fights remaining on hi WEC contract and Yushin Okami was the last man to defeat A. Silva, albeit an illegal kick. Okami gets the first title shot after Hendo. When will Martin Kampman fight again?

okay so he’s basicly talking about how horrible bisping is, how he won’t make an impact in the division, and even talking about how mush bigger he is than him… yet he says he wants to fight him. jason macdonald is just stupid and he’s making himself look dumb saying he wants to fight someone who he thinks is so bad.

this would be a fight that i coudlnt stop laughing while watching it. i think id be cheering for J-Mac. he needs to get his ass kicked before he finds the submission.

I heard Okami signed with K-1…

who care i’ll be happen as long as Bisping loses to whoever.He does’nt desreve to be in the ufc.he’s just Dana’s fuck boy for the brits

[quote comment=”237640″]

p.s. Hey Dana…time to call Urijah Faber up to tangle with the big boys of UFC.”

Can’t wait to see the California Kid in the UFC. Pretty impressed by this guy and they have great marketability in him which is probably why he is the WEC poster boy for now.

[quote comment=”237820″][quote comment=”237640″]

p.s. Hey Dana…time to call Urijah Faber up to tangle with the big boys of UFC.”

Can’t wait to see the California Kid in the UFC. Pretty impressed by this guy and they have great marketability in him which is probably why he is the WEC poster boy for now.[/quote]

Urijah isnt leaving 145 lbs division, so until the UC starts one, which they should, he will be fighting in the WEC[quote comment=”237779″][quote comment=”237748″][quote comment=”237637″]I think MacDonald and Bisping both have a lot to prove and it would be an interesting fight. Kendall Grove wants MacDonald bad, but the UFC may not want to risk another TUF winner losing to a non-ranked fighter, especially to MacDonald who called himself the “TUF killer”. With that said, the UFC needs someone in the middleweight ranks to sting together a few wins in a row so they can have another title contender for lat in ‘08. My guess is Ushin Okami gets the next title shot after Hendo.[/quote]

I guarentee that if Hendo beats Silva, the UFC will call up Paulo Filho from the WEC and give him a title shot because no one in the UFC’s middleweight division deserves one and since Filho wont fight Anderson due to their freindship, Dana is keeping Filho in the WEC until someone other then Silva has the title. Many new fans might not think Filho is qualified because he has looked shaky to say the least in the WEC, but I know him from before that and I wouldnt mind seeing him fight Hendo if Silva were to loose. Its a shame but who else in the UFC 185 lb division deserves a title shot?[/quote]

Filho has 2 fights remaining on hi WEC contract and Yushin Okami was the last man to defeat A. Silva, albeit an illegal kick. Okami gets the first title shot after Hendo. When will Martin Kampman fight again?[/quote]

BIGrush: It makes no differance how many fights Filho has left on his WEC contract. Both the UFC and WEC are owned by Zuffa, so calling a fighter up to the UFC from the WEC wont be a problem…How can you justify Okami being next in line for the title? Okami lost the fight before last to Rich Franklin…..One fight winning streaks dont get you a title shot…he is gonna have to beat a top notch guy before that happens….I heard somewhere that Kampman would be back real soon…I am also awaiting his return..He is a tough, skilled fighter who showed me a ton of heart taking Big shots from McFedries but eventually choking him out with a side triangle.

John,

The UFC gives title shots based on marketability rather than streaks. Should I site the number of times that a long win streak was not necessary to get a title shot? If Silva beats Hendo, the UFC will have no choice ut to market the Okami-Silva fight as “the last man to be Silva” and “won 5 of his 6 fights in the UFC.” While I agree with you that win streaks should determine title shots, the facts indicate that it just is not so.

I love all the Bisping nut huggers… you guys kill me.
Rashad and Hammil are the only ‘real’ talent he faced… and he failed.

Bring this to Canada, I hope they announce something about the Montreal event soon. I wanted to see the Bisping/Hammill rematch but this will be a good substitute.

More middle weight news. Matt Lindland wants to be back in the UFC.

people why are we talkin about this bisping will snap macdonald in half… bisping vs franklin should be his first fight at 185 he aint no push over

[quote comment=”237860″]I love all the Bisping nut huggers… you guys kill me.
Rashad and Hammil are the only ‘real’ talent he faced… and he failed.[/quote]
LUPPERS SORT YOUR LIFE OUT

Hopefully Bisping will win this one. Macdonald bothers me, I dont really know why. Just does.

macdonald sucks, he cant even beat okami and even I think bisping could beat okami

Bisping would get dominated by Okami, much the same as MacDonald did. MacDonald far from elite, so him calling Bisping out sits fine with me. Not a big fan of either, but Bisping is funnier, so I would root for him.

[quote comment=”237635″]Jason MacDonald has way too much range for Bisping who would get frustrated with his athleticism. Ask Rich Franklin who he remembers hitting the hardest at 185 … He doesn’t remember getting rocked by Anderson Silva lol.

It’s J Mac

Bisping is nothing more than a glorified poster boy for the UK, Dana knows it and thus uses it to make money in England. May as well drop to the WEC where he would have a better chance winning a title in an organization where the only classes that matter are 135, 145, and 155.[/quote]

Saying somebody, who’s not only an athlete, but whose nickname is “The Athlete,” is athletic is extremely unoriginal. Saying somebody, who’s a poster boy, is glorified is redundant. And saying that the 155 lb division in the WEC is one of the few that matters is ignorant. Other than that, you’re just plain wrong. Bisping showed great versatility against Rashad. He would most likely knock J Mac out.

[quote comment=”237860″]I love all the Bisping nut huggers… you guys kill me.
Rashad and Hammil are the only ‘real’ talent he faced… and he failed.[/quote]

Lol, what “nut huggers”?! From what I can see pretty much everyone outside of the UK hates Bisping cos they’re still not over the Hamill decision

Jason MacDonald has way too much range for Bisping who would get frustrated with his athleticism. Ask Rich Franklin who he remembers hitting the hardest at 185 … He doesn’t remember getting rocked by Anderson Silva lol.

It’s J Mac

Bisping is nothing more than a glorified poster boy for the UK, Dana knows it and thus uses it to make money in England. May as well drop to the WEC where he would have a better chance winning a title in an organization where the only classes that matter are 135, 145, and 155.

I would be going for macdonald and I think he could win if he controls the pace but if bisping comes running in limbs swinging and is relentless I think jason will be in trouble.
I’m still going for macdonald though.

mma HL:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nee8TqXMeBQ

Macdonald is good but damn he talks pure B.S.. Bisping Would Knock Macdonald Out In The 1st Round.

[quote comment=”237878″]people why are we talkin about this bisping will snap macdonald in half… bisping vs franklin should be his first fight at 185 he aint no push over[/quote]

I agree 100%

Yea, Macdonald knows all about not being able to beat Rich Franklin. The only way he beats Bisping is if his plane ticket from England gets lost….

i’d like to see MacDonald and Franklin hang with the big boys at 205.

that would make it an easier comparison w/ regards to matching up against Bisping.

[quote comment=”238167″]i’d like to see MacDonald and Franklin hang with the big boys at 205.

that would make it an easier comparison w/ regards to matching up against Bisping.[/quote]
I’d love to see MacDonald @ 205 haha. since he’s “SO BIG”

[quote post=”4252″]Hopefully Bisping will win this one. Macdonald bothers me, I dont really know why. Just does. [/quote]
And Bisping doesn’t bother you?

[quote post=”4252″]Macdonald is good but damn he talks pure B.S.. Bisping Would Knock Macdonald Out In The 1st Round. [/quote]
If he is that good , he could take out Franklin in the 2nd and Silva in the 3rd. Macdonald would be a good starting point and a close fight,but i think Bisping has a little more grit and it would win him a decision.

[quote comment=”238185″][quote post=”4252″]Macdonald is good but damn he talks pure B.S.. Bisping Would Knock Macdonald Out In The 1st Round. [/quote]
If he is that good , he could take out Franklin in the 2nd and Silva in the 3rd. Macdonald would be a good starting point and a close fight,but i think Bisping has a little more grit and it would win him a decision.[/quote]
I don’t think Bisbing could beat Franklin. Similar style and strenght, I just give Franklin the edge in both. UD I say, if he didnt finish him.

Careful what you wish for Macdonald. Your big mouth may have you eating out of a straw. Let’s be serious here….he beat Rory Singer and Chris Leben, but he cannot beat big names….he lost to Rich Franklin and Yushin Okami with no expectations to fight Anderson Silva. He cannot beat the big names….Bisping is a big name in a smaller division.

Personally, I got Bisping.

I don’t like either fighter for some reason and could care less who wins between the two of them, they both annoy me, especially mcdonald.

I agree with Mcdonald

I’m definatley not a bisping fan but he has been taking on stiff competition lately and I believe he would take a win prob in 1st round.

[quote comment=”237860″]I love all the Bisping nut huggers… you guys kill me.
Rashad and Hammil are the only ‘real’ talent he faced… and he failed.[/quote]
Yeh but that’s probably coming from a Hamil Nut hugger… now you guys are hilarious!

I’m neither here nor there with either of em, Bisbing is ok but not seen this great striking he supposedly has, he had nice G’n'P against Elvis but that’s it for me so far..

But to call Hamil “real” talent…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it hurts.

Still, i don’t think this would be a walk over for Bisbing, but i think he would probably win it 7 out of 10

[quote comment=”238214″][quote comment=”238185″][quote post=”4252″]Macdonald is good but damn he talks pure B.S.. Bisping Would Knock Macdonald Out In The 1st Round. [/quote]
If he is that good , he could take out Franklin in the 2nd and Silva in the 3rd. Macdonald would be a good starting point and a close fight,but i think Bisping has a little more grit and it would win him a decision.[/quote]
I don’t think Bisbing could beat Franklin. Similar style and strenght, I just give Franklin the edge in both. UD I say, if he didnt finish him.[/quote]

I dont mind Bisbing, don’t love him but don’t hate him. But i think Rich would finish Bisbing on most days of the week.

Oh Love the smack talk.

bisping,mcdonald…..uhmmm….na not woth watching,heck the way bisping cries a states hes this good square off against franklin and get that ass whipped. bisping your a wast at205 and dropping down wont help you either….options….join mm1 that would spark your carrer…lol

There are so many Bisping haters out there… wonder if the same would be said if he was American.

Yes he is the poster boy for the UK, but did he ever ask for that honour?

Everyone should remember that his last two fights have been against World class wrestlers and that wrestling is by far the weakest aspect of his game.

For the life of me i can’t find the site but shortly after 78 there was link on UFC.com that had the punch/kick/take-down stats for the Evans fight.

It was clear as day that Bisping won the fight… he landed around 40% more strikes both from the ground and standing. Takedowns score but Evans was doing nothing and Bisping got up anyway.

Yes he would get ruined by Silva and Hendo but i can see him having a good scrap with Frankin and walk through the likes of Herman-Mcdonald-Grove-Leben-Quarry.

Get off his case!

Bisbing is garbage. Matt Hamill should have gotten the decision between them. Evans definitely won the fight against him. I don’t know where people can say that it was the other way around. He’s already gotten lucky to be where he is now. He’s not going to make any impact in the middleweight division. Obviously he dropped down, cuz he couldn’t hack it at 205. I guarantee you he will be just a distant memory by the end of 2008.

The question is: Does Bisping want him some McDonalds. Judging by the gut… yes. But being Dana’s poster boy for the UK, I think Dana will give him some cupcake for his first fight @ 185.

[quote comment=”237603″]I wouldnt mind seeing Kendall Grove vs Michael Bisping[/quote]
I am a grove fan… but I really cant see grove taking Bisping. i mean he got KTFO when he fought Cote. I don’t see that faring well for grove… at all

[quote comment=”237860″]I love all the Bisping nut huggers… you guys kill me.
Rashad and Hammil are the only ‘real’ talent he faced… and he failed.[/quote]

AMEN!

What happened to everybody screaming for the Bisping/Hammil rematch?

[quote comment=”237640″]Ironic how MacDonalds echoed most of the comments made a few days back in a prior Posting (Dec.14th “Michael Bisping: Out of the frying pan and into the fire”).

To quote myself:
” Bisping is a bore. He lost to Rashaad, I think he lost to Hamill and he’d get clobbered by Silva (much like everyone else). I also don’t see him being able to hang with Franklin, Okami, MacDonald, Lebman, Lutter, Herman and the list goes on. If you ask me, which you didn’t, he is a lost tweener and he’s just now starting to find out this MMA thing is tough. WEC…ready or not…here he comes.

p.s. Hey Dana…time to call Urijah Faber up to tangle with the big boys of UFC.”

My comment, like many others on that day, seemed to voice a common feeling and now a fighter voices the same sentament. Simply put…wherever Bisping ends up he’s out classed.[/quote]

You should be running the UFC buddy!!!

i hope Bisping fights MacDonald first.

[quote comment=”237637″]I think MacDonald and Bisping both have a lot to prove and it would be an interesting fight. Kendall Grove wants MacDonald bad, but the UFC may not want to risk another TUF winner losing to a non-ranked fighter, especially to MacDonald who called himself the “TUF killer”. With that said, the UFC needs someone in the middleweight ranks to sting together a few wins in a row so they can have another title contender for lat in ‘08. My guess is Ushin Okami gets the next title shot after Hendo.[/quote]

Ushin wont get a chance when Evan Tanner kicks his ass in his comeback. Ushin will have 2 losses back to back. done