rich franklin vs travis lutter UFC 82
Former middleweight champion Rich Franklin (22-3) will look to get back on the winning track against 185-pound winner of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 4, Travis Lutter (9-4), at UFC 82 on March 1 at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio.

Dave Melter from WrestlingObserver.com confirmed the rumored bout in a recent print edition of his newsletter. In fact, it will serve as a co main event alongside the middleweight showdown between current division titleholder, Anderson Silva, and PRIDE FC Welterweight Champion, Dan Henderson.

Franklin is coming off of another devastating loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 77: “Hostile Territory” in front of his hometown crowd this past October. In his only other fight in the Buckeye State, “Ace” thrashed Jason MacDonald via corner stoppage at UFC 68: “Uprising” in March.

He is currently taking a break from training while he films the motion picture, “Weapon,” starring as a genetically engineered super soldier.

Lutter has not competed since nearly pulling off an upset of Silva at UFC 67: “All or Nothing” back in February. The long layoff for the “The Serial Killer” is due in large part to a chronic neck injury (not his inability to make weight for the title fight with Silva).

In fact, he was supposed to fight Ryan Jensen at UFC 74: “Respect” in August, but had to withdraw after re-aggravating the injury during training.

To check out the latest UFC 82 rumored fight card right here.

December 18th, 2007    

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Comment by cmac
2007-12-18 00:14:17

Ufc 82!! Looking like a good card. I will be there. LOkks like alot of fun along with the arnold classic. Go Rich.

 
Comment by cmac
2007-12-18 00:16:57

[quote comment=”236927″]Ufc 82!! Looking like a good card. I will be there. LOkks like alot of fun along with the arnold classic. Go Rich.[/quote]
looks

 
Comment by Game
2007-12-18 00:32:05

Fitch and Koschek also on the fight card..not bad after a shitty 81 fight card.

 
Comment by dcsoldier187
2007-12-18 01:06:56

is it march 1st or march 2nd cause im hoping its march first because im goin for my 21st birthday and watching this great card

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-18 01:25:16

Rich wins. Rich beats any MW fighter not names Anderson Silva.

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-18 01:30:09

Why does he always fight at home. it’s kinda unfair. I know it will make the UFC event sell out but still, his opponent is at a disadvantage.

 
Comment by Jakizzle
2007-12-18 01:33:56

this is going to be a tough fight for rich, i still think he’ll win by decision but lutter’s ground game is so much better than franklin’s that he had better watch out

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-18 01:40:35

Rich is gonna kill him.

 
Comment by DownUnder
2007-12-18 01:43:55

I love this. If Dan Henderson can not beat Silva we are all fucked. Who the hell is going to beat him. In saying that, I would like to see Nate get one more shot. I think he stuffed up last time.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-18 01:54:50

[quote comment=”236996″]Why does he always fight at home. it’s kinda unfair. I know it will make the UFC event sell out but still, his opponent is at a disadvantage.[/quote]

You got it. It’s about marketing.

 
Comment by JB
2007-12-18 01:57:09

Hmm…don’t give this to Rich too easily. Lutter is a crafty dude. He gave Silva the most trouble in 2007….

 
Comment by Ray
2007-12-18 04:10:30

[quote comment=”236996″]Why does he always fight at home. it’s kinda unfair. I know it will make the UFC event sell out but still, his opponent is at a disadvantage.[/quote]

What’s more upsetting is the fact that Jorge Gurgel is going to get his lights put out at home, again!

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-18 04:38:15

Man it just hit me, do you guys realize how good of a card this is? The main event is the biggest fight i’ve heard of, can’t think of anything better right now besides Fedor and Couture, and the whole rest of the card
Anderson Vs. Henderson
Rich Vs. Lutter
Koscheck Vs. ……name eludes me at teh moment
Fitch Vs. TBA
This is the best card I have ever seen that I can think of right now, better than new years in my opinion.

Oh and on MMAWEEKLY the rumors section, it has no price listed for 81, and 82 the suggested retail PPV price still says 39.95, I thought Weekly was pretty up-to-date.
Is that source you got that from very reputable MANIA? Cuz they didnt have any actual quotes or anything that I saw when I read it.

 
Comment by markg
2007-12-18 05:01:10

This definately looks like a great card. So many great events coming up in 08. I think if lutter can mount him he win by tko, or sub. If they stand franklin win by ko… this could go either way… coin toss. Coin toss between silva and henderson too… My money would be on the spider and lutter tho.

 
Comment by Googan
2007-12-18 06:06:37

Hendo is gonna beat Silva. Mark my words! Silva doesn’t have the power to take Hendo out on the feet. Remember, Hendo has never been knocked out at middleweight OR light heavyweight. Not even close. He’s gonna take the punishment, put Silva on his back and bash the living ish out of him. He might even be able to hurt him standup (taking 10 shots to unleash 1 bomb). If you Silva fans are counting on his clinch-work, Hendo has an answer for that too. He’s got world-class Greco! Silva’s not going to be able to work over Hendo like he did to Rich. Not even close. Hendo’s got the answer to the Spider problem.

 
Comment by MMA PUNK
2007-12-18 06:14:11

I will root for Rich win!

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-12-18 07:07:12

Thank god !!! I’ve been waiting to see Rich Franklin get a win for too long now. Special thanks to Chrome Dome and Joe Silva for piecing this together. And on the same night the possibility of Dan Henderson defeating the evil empire known as Anderson Silva ? This is great news.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-12-18 08:37:14

Lutter couldn’t be more happier with this matchup.

 
Comment by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!
2007-12-18 08:43:44

no problem…….this ones easy….franklin in the second via submission.

 
Comment by Spawn
2007-12-18 08:44:15

[quote comment=”236996″]Why does he always fight at home. it’s kinda unfair. I know it will make the UFC event sell out but still, his opponent is at a disadvantage.[/quote]
here, man… take this tissue to wipe your tears.

it’ll all be okay eventually. just have faith.

 
Comment by Lucas
2007-12-18 09:08:23

Lutter has lost to travis prangley and jorge Rivera in his past fights. He wont make weight again and will get knocked out

 
Comment by Lots of 2ND RATE mma exists outside the UFC!
2007-12-18 09:08:59

[quote comment=”237034″]Hmm…don’t give this to Rich too easily. Lutter is a crafty dude. He gave Silva the most trouble in 2007….[/quote]

Good point, also where is Franklin at mentally?… i see a tough night ahead for Rich.

 
Comment by pw
2007-12-18 09:12:40

[quote comment=”236996″]Why does he always fight at home. it’s kinda unfair. I know it will make the UFC event sell out but still, his opponent is at a disadvantage.[/quote]
For the same reason Bisping always gets to fight on the England cards.

 
Comment by Lucas
2007-12-18 09:16:12

I meant trevor prangley

 
Comment by john
2007-12-18 09:53:27

[quote comment=”237271″]no problem…….this ones easy….franklin in the second via submission.[/quote]

u think Franklin is going to submit Lutter? ORTIZ!!!!!!08….BABY!, just about everyday you make a post that tells me you know absoluetly nothing about the game….Congradulations you started to prove me right today early in the day.

 
Comment by john
2007-12-18 09:54:17

Has the UFC lost its mind? calling Franklin vs. Lutter a co-main event….So not worthy!!!!!!!

 
Comment by mma dude
2007-12-18 09:54:49

Lutter is no slouch, he pretty much manhandled his way through TUF 4, he’s done the best against Anderson so far in the UFC, and he showed against Eastman that he does have Ko power if he connects, but Rich was too good to be on Tuf 4 and he is better than Marvin Eastman, so Lutter will have his hands full if he cant take Rich down…I see Franklin/McDonald, or Tanner?Franklin all over again because of Riches take down defense, but it should be a good fight..

also, Googan, everyone can be KOed and Im pretty sure if Anderson connects he can KO anyone, but either way that will be an awesome fight as well

 
Comment by ToeLock
2007-12-18 10:02:14

I recon that due to the LACK of talent in this division Rich got his rematch with Silva too early. This is a fight he should have had on his road back to the title.

In my opinion you could tell when Rich was asked by Rogan what he thinks of his next match being with nderson and he was like….”If thats whats next then thats what i’ll do”

Not the words of a man with confidence!

On that note… can’t say im too interested in nothing matches in the MW division between 2 guys who have no hope of beating Silva any time soon!

 
Comment by GoColts
2007-12-18 10:24:51

[quote comment=”237197″] Remember, Hendo has never been knocked out at middleweight OR light heavyweight. Not even close.quote]

There’s a first time for everything.

 
Comment by STUNNALATOR
2007-12-18 10:26:08

LUTTER WILL DO WHAT OKAMI DOULD NOT DO!!! This will be a tough fight for Rich. If Lutter can get Rich on the ground in the 1st round and pound on him and wear him out then I believe Lutter will be able to get the takedown in the 2nd and 3rd rounds as well and win via unanimous victory. It will be a very boring fight of Travis laying on top of rich but i believe he can pull out a victory if he comes in with this gameplan.

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-12-18 10:33:38

It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.

 
Comment by RobH86
2007-12-18 10:40:57

I’m going with Franklinstein to get the win over fatty.

 
Comment by Smashy Smash
2007-12-18 10:42:02

“Lutter has not competed since nearly pulling off an upset of Silva…”

The only thing the Lutter nearly pulled off was looking like a whitebelt.

Anyways Silva v. (Hendo fight of ‘08)
Franklin v. Lutter (Just another chance for the UFC to prop up the old poster boy)

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2007-12-18 11:15:54

Why doesn’t Lutter move to 205? The man weakens himself so much to make 185 when he is more about technique than strength. So much potential… so much mental (and physical @185) baggage.

 
Comment by greg
2007-12-18 11:16:30

This will be an awesome card, if for no other reason than the Hendo Silva fight. Ive been waiting patiently for this fight for a while. You also get to see Franklin, Lutter, Koshcheck, and Fitch. I think it goes down like this.
Hendo via GnP over Silva
Franklin TKO’s Lutter
Koshcheck and Fitch should have good night as well.

 
Comment by Big House
2007-12-18 11:25:32

This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better. He may have fared better against Silva but let’s be honest. Was Silva really in any danger? He was calm the whole time and was just waiting for his spot. Lutter will never get Franklin on his back[quote comment=”237366″]It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.[/quote]
You cannot be “DIE HARD” and honestly think Lutter can pull the upset. Mirror image of the Macdonald fight. Lutter will not answer the bell in round two!!

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-18 11:38:28

[quote comment=”237288″][quote comment=”237034″]Hmm…don’t give this to Rich too easily. Lutter is a crafty dude. He gave Silva the most trouble in 2007….[/quote]

Good point, also where is Franklin at mentally?… i see a tough night ahead for Rich.[/quote]

Well after his first destruction from Spider, he came back and cleanly beat two good opponents in MacDonald and Okami.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-18 11:40:48

I don’t believe that Hendo can’t get knocked out. I’m not saying that Anderson will knock him out, but he can do it. Maybe not out cold, but enough for a stoppage.

 
Comment by bryant
2007-12-18 11:51:01

pay per view prices RE GOING UP TO 45 BUCKS
ANYWAYS GOOD FIGHT, GOOD CARD ON PAY PER VIEW, I HOPE IT AIN’T THE CO MAIN EVENT I HEARD ARLOVSKI MIGHT FIGHT AS WELL ON THIS CARD

 
Comment by matt
2007-12-18 12:24:48

this is a very dangerous fight for rich. he is was almost tapped out by okami who is not on lutters level when it comes to submissions. I think rich can outstrike lutter but the question is can rich keep the fight standing. Also i think if lutter wins this fight and anderson defends his title i think that it set up a rematch between lutter and anderson as lutter gave anderson a run for his money in 2007

 
Comment by Jorgito
2007-12-18 12:27:38

I would agree that this is a very dangerous fight for franklin and I would actually give lutter a good chance of winning. I would say Lutter gave the best performance against Silva than anyone thus far in the UFC. I woudl not be surprised if he won at all

 
Comment by Nick J
2007-12-18 12:49:58

I think that Bisping has to be thrown into the equation soon. Chuck him in with Marquart to see if he can cut the mustard at M/W then against the winner of these two.

I really think Bisping can be a top 5 fighter at M/W. He stuggled against strong wrestlers in his last 2 but with the size advantage he’ll have in a weak division i could see him fighting for the title after two wins.

 
Comment by Chancho
2007-12-18 12:51:32

Lutter with the submission for the upset.

 
Comment by Droopking
2007-12-18 13:29:39

[quote comment=”237333″][quote comment=”237271″]no problem…….this ones easy….franklin in the second via submission.[/quote]

u think Franklin is going to submit Lutter? ORTIZ!!!!!!08….BABY!, just about everyday you make a post that tells me you know absoluetly nothing about the game….Congradulations you started to prove me right today early in the day.[/quote]
Well said John… you beat me to it.

 
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2007-12-18 13:30:47

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Comment by SaVaGe
2007-12-18 13:32:48

A depleted (trying to make weight) Lutter gave Silva all he could handle before the triangle at 67…plus look how long he survived before finally tapping.

This is a great matchup. I like Lutter by sub.

 
Comment by roy
2007-12-18 13:45:40

[quote comment=”237511″][quote comment=”237333″][quote comment=”237271″]no problem…….this ones easy….franklin in the second via submission.[/quote]

u think Franklin is going to submit Lutter? ORTIZ!!!!!!08….BABY!, just about everyday you make a post that tells me you know absoluetly nothing about the game….Congradulations you started to prove me right today early in the day.[/quote]
Well said John… you beat me to it.[/quote]

franklin submits lutter, ortiz wins the lhw belt, fedor sucks, what are you guys taling about this guy knows mma.j/k

 
Comment by john
2007-12-18 13:53:17

I wont ever take Travis Lutter serious until he stops training alone. If he wants to be serious he needs to get his ass some coaches and training partners….Trying to do it all alone is the reason that idiot didnt make weight coming into a championship fight!

 
Comment by Anthony
2007-12-18 13:57:39

This fight card is definitely shaping up to being the best in a long time, the only thing is I find it very disheartening to see NO heavyweight or light heavyweight fights on the card when a) the LH division is your deepest and b) the heavyweight division has guys like Kongo, Arlovski, Cro Cop and Vera who need fights. I think Arlovski and Kongo should be lined up to fight at 83 as long as it takes place before April 15, Arlovski is good for it.

Bryant, where did you hear that news on Arlovski??

 
Comment by JB
2007-12-18 13:57:57

[quote post=”4246″]This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better.[/quote]

Lutter > Macdonald. And it sucks for me as a Canadian to admit that. But J-Mac doesn’t have half the jits that Lutter does. If Lutter can take Silva down at will, Rich won’t be able to stuff him.

Lutter beats Franklin, then Lutter beats Bisping, then Lutter gets a title shot against Silva who beats Henderson.

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-12-18 14:00:29

[quote comment=”237406″]This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better. He may have fared better against Silva but let’s be honest. Was Silva really in any danger? He was calm the whole time and was just waiting for his spot. Lutter will never get Franklin on his back[quote comment=”237366″]It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.[/quote]
You cannot be “DIE HARD” and honestly think Lutter can pull the upset. Mirror image of the Macdonald fight. Lutter will not answer the bell in round two!![/quote]

I can be a die hard, and think he can pull off the upset. Its called realism.

A lot of people are comparing Jason MacDonald to Travis Lutter… Lutter’s BJJ is 10x better than MacDonald’s. Lutter is actually a pretty big middleweight, and he will give Rich problems.

I think Lutter can submit him, and I think if Lutter made weight and fought Anderson he would of submitted Anderson.

Anderson made Lutter tap because of the elbows to the head and not the traingle choke.

 
Comment by mma dude
2007-12-18 14:08:46

nc 17, lutter said himself that it was the choke that submitted him, silva also had surgeries on both knees prior, not to mention Lutter was the only guy that Silva fought who hasnt tried to punch with him for a little while…Im as die hard rich franklin fan as it gets, i see Lutter showing rich problems if it goes to the ground, but i dont think it will

 
Comment by dia mette
2007-12-18 14:12:50

Wow Ohio is like the ufc’s home second to vegas, Fighting infront of your home crowd is not really an advatage all the time, Rich is going to be under intense pressure to win this fight lutter has nothing to lose, I just hope lutter works his striking because its awful watching him go for novice double leg takedowns with out setting up the shot

 
Comment by Ben Dover
2007-12-18 14:37:09

Do you think Rick’s personal Ringside Doctor will be there to bend back his smashed up nose?? I can’t wait to see that Jorge Gurgel look like Rocky again from the mask. He got his face mangled last time.

Silva defeats Hendo via the larger anaconda trouser snake in his pants.

 
Comment by matt
2007-12-18 15:07:44

[quote comment=”237476″]I think that Bisping has to be thrown into the equation soon. Chuck him in with Marquart to see if he can cut the mustard at M/W then against the winner of these two.

I really think Bisping can be a top 5 fighter at M/W. He stuggled against strong wrestlers in his last 2 but with the size advantage he’ll have in a weak division i could see him fighting for the title after two wins.[/quote]

I agree that bisping can be a top five middle weight but i dont think he will have a size advantage over anybody. Put him next to rich franklin and we all would probably think that bisping belongs in the welterweight division. I think Bisping will be in the same boat as Rich Franklin that he will be able to beat just about everybody in the division but he wont be able to beat the champ wether it be anderson silva or dan henderson i think these two will rule the division for a long time to come.

 
Comment by MrAnrgy
2007-12-18 15:18:07

Lutter could easily be a dangerous fight for Rich. I can see Rich winning via strikes in round 2-3 but if it does go to the ground, I expect Lutter to be miles better there and could well submit his way to an upset victory.

 
Comment by RHV
2007-12-18 15:43:59

Franklin is better than Lutter in all aspects of the game.

Lutter was incredibly sloppy against Silva in his last fight. Was from trying to make weight? Possibly.

People forget that 9 of Franklin’s 22 wins are via submission.

I’m not even convinced Lutter can take Franklin down.

It sucks that this is the only competition left for Franklin to face in his division.

 
Comment by roy
2007-12-18 16:12:51

[quote comment=”237584″]Do you think Rick’s personal Ringside Doctor will be there to bend back his smashed up nose?? I can’t wait to see that Jorge Gurgel look like Rocky again from the mask. He got his face mangled last time.

Silva defeats Hendo via the larger anaconda trouser snake in his pants.[/quote]

please no jorge gurgel, i sure they won’t televise that fight

 
Comment by JB
2007-12-18 16:19:59

[quote post=”4246″]Franklin is better than Lutter in all aspects of the game.[/quote]

False. I would say lots of aspects of the game.

[quote post=”4246″]Lutter was incredibly sloppy against Silva in his last fight. Was from trying to make weight? Possibly.[/quote]

Probably is more like it. Lutter is not generally sloppy.

[quote post=”4246″]I’m not even convinced Lutter can take Franklin down.[/quote]

He took down Silva; pretty much at will.

[quote post=”4246″]It sucks that this is the only competition left for Franklin to face in his division. [/quote]

I don’t know. I’d like to see Franklin against Marquardt.

 
Comment by Khemtawe
2007-12-18 16:21:36

[quote comment=”237024″]I love this. If Dan Henderson can not beat Silva we are all fucked. Who the hell is going to beat him. In saying that, I would like to see Nate get one more shot. I think he stuffed up last time.[/quote]

Having Anderson Silva as champ will force the UFC to work harder to get the world’s best at MW into the UFC. We would also see the best fighters from other weight classes going to MW to challenge Silva. Who would not want to see: Silva vs Filho (sure they are pals but it would be inevitable); Silva vs Hughes; Silva vs Lindland; or Silva vs GSP?

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-18 16:47:54

Paulo Filho was not impressive in his last match. He has to step it up if he wants to be a UFC contender.

 
Comment by dcsoldier187
2007-12-18 16:50:05

is this march 1st or march 2nd? cause march 1st is my bday either way im goin to ohio and watchin this live i hope franklin and tanner kick some ass

 
Comment by Khemtawe
2007-12-18 16:50:18

Franklin vs Lutter will be an entertaining fight to say the least. Lutter will give Rich more of a challenge than people expect. If Franklin wins it will be with his stand up game, if Lutter wins it will be with his ground game. I won’t try to predict this one.

I will predict that Silva wins against Henderson. Henderson will “never” get a full mount on Silva, but if Anderson lets Dan get side control he may be in trouble. Establishing side control is the only way I can feasibly see Dan winning a decision. Anderson will make Dan look like an amateur if Dan tries to stand and throw his typical haymakers while ducking his head. Silva just has more techniques at his disposal that can finish Henderson (standing) or neutralize him (ground).

 
Comment by MMAmania
2007-12-18 17:03:35

[quote comment=”237708″]is this march 1st or march 2nd? cause march 1st is my bday either way im goin to ohio and watchin this live i hope franklin and tanner kick some ass[/quote]

Saturday, March 1

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-18 17:19:24

[quote comment=”237715″][quote comment=”237708″]is this march 1st or march 2nd? cause march 1st is my bday either way im goin to ohio and watchin this live i hope franklin and tanner kick some ass[/quote]

Saturday, March 1[/quote]
Hey Mania, on MMAWEEKLY the rumors section, it has no price listed for 81, and 82 the suggested retail PPV price still says 39.95, I thought Weekly was pretty up-to-date.
Is that source you got that from very reputable? Cuz they didnt have any actual quotes or anything that I saw when I read it.

 
Comment by jim
2007-12-18 18:33:03

y r they putting all the big fights on 82? what about 81 that fight card suck major ass. they should put the tanner fight on 81 or the fitch or kos on there. sylvia vs antonio who cares come on? sylvia sucks now and antonio almost got knocked out by heath herring. u can’t find a better match then that 4 the heavyweight belt. well at least its not sherk fighting. SHERK SUCKS DANA’S ass 4 a living

 
Comment by jim
2007-12-18 18:37:35

it says lutter almost upset anderson what fight were u fu**ing watching. all lutter did was take him down then he got caught in a trinagle.

 
Comment by GodDamnMike
2007-12-18 20:29:36

[quote comment=”237406″]This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better. He may have fared better against Silva but let’s be honest. Was Silva really in any danger? He was calm the whole time and was just waiting for his spot. Lutter will never get Franklin on his back[quote comment=”237366″]It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.[/quote]
You cannot be “DIE HARD” and honestly think Lutter can pull the upset. Mirror image of the Macdonald fight. Lutter will not answer the bell in round two!![/quote]
Big House: You know way too much for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Someone (anyone) CAN be a “die hard” fan of a fighter and realistically think that the favour is leaning elsewhere. It IS possible that an educated fan can breakdown a fight and not just heavily favour who they WANT to win…..I’m a die hard Shogun fan and I hate Griffin, although I had doubts in Shogun for that fight…..guess I don’t like Shogun right??

 
Comment by Big House
2007-12-19 00:36:23

[quote comment=”237904″][quote comment=”237406″]This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better. He may have fared better against Silva but let’s be honest. Was Silva really in any danger? He was calm the whole time and was just waiting for his spot. Lutter will never get Franklin on his back[quote comment=”237366″]It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.[/quote]
You cannot be “DIE HARD” and honestly think Lutter can pull the upset. Mirror image of the Macdonald fight. Lutter will not answer the bell in round two!![/quote]
Big House: You know way too much for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Someone (anyone) CAN be a “die hard” fan of a fighter and realistically think that the favour is leaning elsewhere. It IS possible that an educated fan can breakdown a fight and not just heavily favour who they WANT to win…..I’m a die hard Shogun fan and I hate Griffin, although I had doubts in Shogun for that fight…..guess I don’t like Shogun right??[/quote]
[quote comment=”237543″][quote comment=”237406″]This fight will not be any different than Frnaklin/Macdonald. He was supposed to be a great submission figther, too. Look what happened. Rich beat the piss out of him. I don’t see Lutter doing anything better. He may have fared better against Silva but let’s be honest. Was Silva really in any danger? He was calm the whole time and was just waiting for his spot. Lutter will never get Franklin on his back[quote comment=”237366″]It has been rumored for about a month that it was supposed to be Franklin/Lutter, and I dunno why Franklin wants this match right out of the gate.

If Lutter can make weight (which is a big IF) and if Lutter can stay healthy (which is another big IF) and if Lutter shows up mentally (biggest if), Lutter is the best Middleweight in the UFC.

But Lutter can never get everything on one page.

I think this a very very tough fight for Lutter, and I think Lutter.. =( pulls the upset of Rich Franklin.

That is coming from a DIE HARD, Rich Franklin fan.[/quote]
You cannot be “DIE HARD” and honestly think Lutter can pull the upset. Mirror image of the Macdonald fight. Lutter will not answer the bell in round two!![/quote]

I can be a die hard, and think he can pull off the upset. Its called realism.

A lot of people are comparing Jason MacDonald to Travis Lutter… Lutter’s BJJ is 10x better than MacDonald’s. Lutter is actually a pretty big middleweight, and he will give Rich problems.

I think Lutter can submit him, and I think if Lutter made weight and fought Anderson he would of submitted Anderson.

Anderson made Lutter tap because of the elbows to the head and not the traingle choke.[/quote]
I’ll respond to both of you at the same time. NC, I was not questioning your allegiance to Rich. I was questioning your allegiance to Rich against Lutter. Rich is a striker, plain and simple. I personally do not believe that he can take Rich to the ground. His takedown defense is too good. Plus, I never said anything about how Silva beat Lutter. If the elbows didn’t do it, the triangle would have. Mike, once again, I am not picking Rich to win just because I am a Rich Franklin fan. Like I said to NC, I do not think Lutter can beat him for the reasons that I previously stated. Let’s bring this full circle here. Rich fought Silva twice and lost. The first time I thought Rich would win. After seeing what Silva did to him and then Lutter and Nate, I knew that there was no way Rich was going to beat him. Another example: I am a “Die Hard” MIchigan Wolverines fan, born and bred. But, unless somebody puts a bullet in Tim Tebow, I really see no way for the Wolverines to win! Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Clause and I am more than capable of being impartial in my fight picks. Thanks for the typing practice fellows. Keep up the good work!!

 
Comment by KaveDaddt
2007-12-19 02:30:59

[quote comment=”236990″]Rich wins. Rich beats any MW fighter not names Anderson Silva.[/quote]

so so so so true. Franklin has proven that he owns this weight class, but is nothing compared to Silva. Franklin should consider/attempt something else. He sure as hell cannot go up a class.

Maybe Franklin vs. GSP/Serra/Hughes?

 
Comment by markg
2007-12-19 04:54:04

[quote comment=”237800″]it says lutter almost upset anderson what fight were u fu**ing watching. all lutter did was take him down then he got caught in a trinagle.[/quote]
Lutter reigned down about 3 decent bombs from the mount before silva reversed the position. A couple more bombs and he would of been unconscious. He did well to get out of mount tho.. thats what they mean by potential upset

 
Comment by belfort_fan
2007-12-19 11:53:19

i think lutter can beat anderson he just had a bad day last fight, but for some reason i dont think he can handle rich i just think it is a bad match up for him i think rich will devastate him……………
kos vs fitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

 
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