“If they don’t listen to me I’ll whup their ass…. I saw the first season (of TUF) a couple of times, (but) it comes on late at night. I’m training for fights so I don’t have time to watch a bunch of dudes running around a house…. I heard the show’s pretty good. I saw some interesting stuff. The first time I saw it, a guy was pissing on somebody’s pillow and I thought it was pretty funny so I tried to watch it every chance I got….. I don’t really coach people. Most times I try to give my teammates and the people I train with a few pointers about what to do and what works for me and they don’t take my advice. I guess I’m not influential. I guess people don’t give a damn about what I’ve got to say about fighting…. I’m just trying to bring what I can bring to the show. (I’ll bring) my personality and hopefully act up a little bit.”
– UFC Light Heavyweight Champion “Rampage” Jackson comments via the Boston Herald about his upcoming stint as coach on season seven of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) mixed martial arts reality series on SpikeTV. He will coach middleweights opposite TUF alumni and number one ranked UFC 205-pound contender, Forrest Griffin. The show begins taping in January and is expected to debut in April 2008 with “new and exciting changes” to the original format.
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This upcoming season should be… interesting to say the least.
I wonder if Rampage will be allowed to bring Juanito along with him. Anyone know who will make up Griffin and Rampage’s coaching staffs?
griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.
So i guess the Rampage vs. Forrest fight will be around fall 2008 ?
Ummm Rampage is an amazing fighter now.
Just watch the 5 round war he had with hendo.
Griffin wont be him, but it should make for an exciting fight.
[quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
I totally agree if Forrest does’nt get caught early I believe he will frustrate Rampage and get the WIN..
Griffin is a great fighter but you guys are dillusional if you think he will beat Rampage. Forrest as very little KO power, Rampage has tons of it in both hands…. Rampage hasnt gotten a slam off in the UFC yet and I know he is itching to throw someone on their head…..Forrest is as slamable as anyone.
Forrest has a lot of heart and is very skilled but right now Rampage is the best LightHeavyweight fighter in the world. As long as juanito is by Rampage’s side Rampage will hold the title.
I can list another 10 reasons why Rampage is a bad opponent for Forrest but I wont. These guys wont fight each other untill late June or July, there will be plentty of time for me to explain to u dillusional fans why Rampage Will defeat Griffin
i cant wait to watch rampage “act up a little bit.” i wonder what a little bit means to him haha. That plus forrest has lived through the house so hopefully they get some good fighters (not some random kid who has connections) and it’ll be a good season
Check out this interview with cro cop. He expects to fight in London at UFC 80. Mania when u get around to posting this info, I want my assist.
Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic Says He Will Likely Be Back In January.”According to the Russian website dnevnik.hr, Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic says he will likely return to the ring in January (UFC 80). He also stated his determination to prove all of his doubters wrong and that he briefly considered retirement after the his loss to Chieck Kongo. Below is the full transcript of an interview Cro Cop did with dnevnik.hr:
Mirko: CroCop is recovered, it will take a month to begin with sparrings again, although I have a special helmet for protection. The stripes are affecting my visibility so it’s not like the real thing, but the regular sparring sessions start in about a month. I think my next fight is going to happen in January.
You recently had a nose surgery?
Mirko: The nose problems have nothing to do with my defeats. I had trouble breathing, my nose was broken, one side was at 30%, while the other side was blocked completely. It’s important when you face such an intense efforts.
Is this the toughest period in your career after you left K1?
Mirko: Not only that, this is the toughest period of my entire career.
Did you think about ending your career?
Mirko: I did think of it the night after my last defeat, but I’m not going to end my career soon. I will have 5 or 6 fights at least. Maybe even more, who can tell. Every fight could be your last one. You can suffer from a fatal injury, you can break your leg or arm. If I’ll be able to fight I’ll fight, it’s my life and my choice and I enjoy doing it. I have a very strong motive, especially beacuse of number of “wise” Internet users saying that I’m done. I will prove they were wrong.
Did you ever think about taking a year off to rest and come back stronger?
Mirko: In my case that would be a very long break. Of course, I would train a lot still if it would happen. Sometime you have to end your career, in a year, 3 or 5 years, or even 10 years – look at Randy Couture, he was the champion at 44. I will always train hard, but long breaks like that are not for me.
Are you in touch with Dana White and how does he feel about your defeats?
Mirko: We keep in touch, but you’ll have to ask him about that.
So, your nose is recovering well, you are wearing a special helmet. Your return is set for January due to a medical reasons?
Mirko: Yes, because of the surgery I’m not allowed to fight sooner. My nose is not fully recovered and I still have stiches in it.
UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event!
[quote post="4234"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6″²3″³ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6″²1″³ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
1. Griffin being bigger has nothing to do with strength, Rampage’s last fight, he had no problem clinching with Hendo.
2. Shogun didn’t really look like Shogun last fight, just like Rampage didn’t look like himself when he lost to Shogun.
3. Standing, Rampage isn’t technically a great boxer, but neither is Keith Jardine, and we saw what he did to Forrest.
4. Forrest has zero knockout power, while Rampage has plenty.
5. Forrest doesn’t have a great takedown, while Rampage’s takedowns have knockout potential in themselves.
6. Other than one good fight, Forrest hasn’t been too impressive in the UFC. Sure, he makes a great fight, but he lost to Tito and Jardine, then beat the lower class fighters.
Forrest isnt even on the same level as Rampage, and it gets annoying that people jump on the bandwagon after one good fight.
I dont think any of the coaches are gonna do any coaching. I think their assisting coaches are gonna do all the teaching.
Rampage beats Griffin by TKO when they fight.
[quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
I see your point but Rampage was mismanaged when he fought Shogun and he wasn’t training with a good camp. He is better than ever now.
Also Shogun was fighting Griffin with a busted knee. Griffin may have just had an amazing fight, but I don’t think the UFC has seen the best of Shogun.
And the real reason Rampage will win is because he is a better wrestler. Its been shown over and over that the better wrestler usually wins.
[quote comment="235733"]UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event![/quote]
Geeze! The UFC is going to make me broke!
[quote comment="235733"] and number one ranked UFC 205-pound contender, Forrest Griffin[/quote]
That sounds awesome..Griffin earned his place though he lost to Tito and Jardine, or maybe because he “knows people in there”
[quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
You’re not an idiot for thinking that Forrest can win this; but your reasoning is poor, except for your reason #2. I agree that Forrest’s ground game is good, and that his best chance to beat Rampage will be on the ground.
Forrest being a bit larger won’t make much of a difference. Rampage is much more athletic and stronger.
Forrest is not a better striker than Rampage. People need to remember that Juanito’s (Rampage’s coach) background is as a boxing coach. He’s tightened up Rampage’s striking considerably. Rampage is also training partners with Cheick Kongo, who is a K-1 striker. Rampage has a tighter, more technical striking style than Forrest. Forrest just likes to brawl.
Forrest beating Shogun and Rampage losing to Shogun doesn’t indicate what will happen when Forrest fights Rampage. It’s called MMA Math, and it doesn’t work. Styles make fights. Also, Rampage fought the worst fight of his life against Shogun; was paired up with a bad coach at the time; and got his ribs broken 2 minutes into the fight. Rampage wasn’t really ever in that fight.
lol rampage has ground game… rampage is good boxer rampage is still stronger few pounts an couple inches wont change that forrest beat hurt shogan
enjoy the belt while you have it page….i love ya but i think griffin has too much for ya,i know tito is your homeboy and you all dont wanna fight each other but when you lose to griffin…tito will beat him [again] and bring the title back to where it belongs….still love ya though rampage!
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[quote comment="235746"][quote comment="235733"] and number one ranked UFC 205-pound contender, Forrest Griffin[/quote]
That sounds awesome..Griffin earned his place though he lost to Tito and Jardine, or maybe because he “knows people in there”[/quote]
THAT MAKES no sense jardine beat griffin and chuck Liddell and he doesn’t get a shot?!?!?!?!?!
“4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.”
Do I really have to explain why this is flawed logic?
Rampage sure as hell better kick the crap out of Forrest, or I’ll lose all respect for him- Forrest is not top ten, if Rampage loses it’s cause he blew it.
[quote comment="235725"]Griffin is a great fighter but you guys are dillusional if you think he will beat Rampage. Forrest as very little KO power, Rampage has tons of it in both hands…. Rampage hasnt gotten a slam off in the UFC yet and I know he is itching to throw someone on their head…..Forrest is as slamable as anyone.
Forrest has a lot of heart and is very skilled but right now Rampage is the best LightHeavyweight fighter in the world. As long as juanito is by Rampage’s side Rampage will hold the title.
I can list another 10 reasons why Rampage is a bad opponent for Forrest but I wont. These guys wont fight each other untill late June or July, there will be plentty of time for me to explain to u dillusional fans why Rampage Will defeat Griffin[/quote]
Completely agree.
I’m afraid we’re, once again, going to see Forrest crying as he runs from the ring. Make no mistake, I really like Forrest. I just don’t think he’s anywhere near Rampage’s league right yet.
[quote comment="235743"][quote comment="235733"]UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event![/quote]
Geeze! The UFC is going to make me broke![/quote]
Plus ten bucks for HD. they better start showing all the fights then
I´m wondering:
if they make it work. there´s plenty of coverage on *name deleted*, *name deleted* and *name deleted*, so why not pick up on it yourselves?
Mania,
why haven´t you picked up on the Shamrock vs. Shamrock fight that´s looking for an organization to do it? Could be one of the most exciting fights besides Fedor vs. Couture in 2008
[quote post="4234"] UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event!
Geeze! The UFC is going to make me broke!
Plus ten bucks for HD. they better start showing all the fights then[/quote]
Its people like you that always spread false info about the ufc. the price of hd and standard definition will be 45 bux. they lowered hd by 5 and raised standard by 5.
[quote comment="235733"]UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event![/quote]
Thats a done deal for me then Ill be waiting for the fights on ufc unleashed.
[quote comment="235754"][quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
You’re not an idiot for thinking that Forrest can win this; but your reasoning is poor, except for your reason #2. I agree that Forrest’s ground game is good, and that his best chance to beat Rampage will be on the ground.
Forrest being a bit larger won’t make much of a difference. Rampage is much more athletic and stronger.
Forrest is not a better striker than Rampage. People need to remember that Juanito’s (Rampage’s coach) background is as a boxing coach. He’s tightened up Rampage’s striking considerably. Rampage is also training partners with Cheick Kongo, who is a K-1 striker. Rampage has a tighter, more technical striking style than Forrest. Forrest just likes to brawl.
Forrest beating Shogun and Rampage losing to Shogun doesn’t indicate what will happen when Forrest fights Rampage. It’s called MMA Math, and it doesn’t work. Styles make fights. Also, Rampage fought the worst fight of his life against Shogun; was paired up with a bad coach at the time; and got his ribs broken 2 minutes into the fight. Rampage wasn’t really ever in that fight.[/quote]
You forgot the biggest reason Forrest will win. He’ll have Randy training him and preparing his game plan.
If Randy picks Forrest to win then we all know that he will.
Rampage is the more complete fighter at this point. He is one of the few Pride fighters to have immediate success moving over to the octagon. I like Forrest but the fact he needs to take a few shots to get in the game is a touch un-nerving when it’s Rampage who will be waking him up (or putting him to sleep).
i like Forrest and all, but i dont see him beating Jackson.At best Forrest will go all 5 rnds then lose a decision if he is well prepared and lucky.i see this one Jackson winning in the 2nd or 3rd by ko or tko.then Jackson getting revenge on wandy.
How the hell can anyone say forrest dominated shogun….are you blind?Did you hear and not actually watch the fight? Shogun EASLY won the first round EASLY, he started to gas in the second round and was out of fuel in 3rd round do to plenty of reasons such as he didnt take forrest seriously got married before the fight came in with at least 1 minor injury.
With that being said Forrest is weaker in every way to Rampage. You cant submit someone who can knock you out in 1 punch and power out of submissions because of brute strength.
The only chance forrest has is if rampage gets disqualified or randomly breaks a foot/arm/leg/ something to that affect. Forrest dont got shit on rampage cant wait to see forrest get his ass knocked out 1st round(unless he runs away like he did 1st round against shogun) then it will be a 2nd round KO!
[quote comment="235810"][quote comment="235743"][quote comment="235733"]UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event![/quote]
Geeze! The UFC is going to make me broke![/quote]
Plus ten bucks for HD. they better start showing all the fights then[/quote]
No crap.
With prices going up, I wanna see my money go towards the fighters payroll, not dana white’s poket.
[quote comment="235846"][quote comment="235754"][quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]
You’re not an idiot for thinking that Forrest can win this; but your reasoning is poor, except for your reason #2. I agree that Forrest’s ground game is good, and that his best chance to beat Rampage will be on the ground.
Forrest being a bit larger won’t make much of a difference. Rampage is much more athletic and stronger.
Forrest is not a better striker than Rampage. People need to remember that Juanito’s (Rampage’s coach) background is as a boxing coach. He’s tightened up Rampage’s striking considerably. Rampage is also training partners with Cheick Kongo, who is a K-1 striker. Rampage has a tighter, more technical striking style than Forrest. Forrest just likes to brawl.
Forrest beating Shogun and Rampage losing to Shogun doesn’t indicate what will happen when Forrest fights Rampage. It’s called MMA Math, and it doesn’t work. Styles make fights. Also, Rampage fought the worst fight of his life against Shogun; was paired up with a bad coach at the time; and got his ribs broken 2 minutes into the fight. Rampage wasn’t really ever in that fight.[/quote]
You forgot the biggest reason Forrest will win. He’ll have Randy training him and preparing his game plan.[/quote]
I guess people are giving forrest a better chance than I thought. Also, thank you to everyone that disagreed put did so in a mature manner.
Forrest Griffin by Triangle Choke!
Cant believe that this is even a toss up. Forrest wont even compete in this fight. He is gonna try to brawl just like he did with Jardine and get knocked out.
The UFC pay-per-view prices better not become as expensive as boxing.
This should be the best season just for the fact of the coaches involved.
theres only one issue with everybodys “forrest griffin is going to win by submission” idea
rampage has only been submitted once in his whole career by Kazushi Sakuraba and that was in 2001
if yall think about it the liddell vs silva and pagevsgriffin fights are all win win for us.
Page And Silva Win: Page and Silva fight,awesome,Griffin will probably fight Jardine again and if chuck isnt through then he could fight rashad
Page and Liddell win: Page will fight the next top contender maybe jardine or someone by then, then liddell will fight griffin,Fuckin awesome, then silva vs shogun maybe
Griffin and Silva win: Griffin will fight silva witch would be awesome and then i could see page fightin liddell or shogun again which are both f’n sweet fights
Griffin and Liddell win: Griffin would fight Jardine if jardine wins another big one between then,maybe shogun or someone. Then Liddell and Page will fight again and silva will probablly fight like alexander,silva,or rashad
like i said win win situation
oh and i just heard that the shamshit vs shamrock isnt happening and frank is comin to ufc and hes fightin belfort
[quote comment="235990"]theres only one issue with everybodys “forrest griffin is going to win by submission” idea
rampage has only been submitted once in his whole career by Kazushi Sakuraba and that was in 2001[/quote]
That doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Shogun had also been submitted only once in his career, before facing Forrest. Liddell had never been KO’ed standing before the second fight with Rampage. Lil Nog had never been finished before fighting Soko. Etc.
Don’t read too much into things “They’ve never lost when carrying the lead into the 4th quarter…” or “He’s never been submitted before…”. It doesn’t mean it can’t happen, only that it hasn’t happened yet.
there is something different about this fight something in the air! Like randy vs silvia forrest might just do it!
Forrrest is one of my favorites but I honestly dont see him beating rampage. Should be a heck of a fight though and I cant wait to watch the new season of TUF
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So does this mean we have to wait as long for the Light heavy weight title fight as we did for the welterweight? What are these guys thinking? If prices do go up, I hope they give better cards and play the whole thing. Compitition with the UFC is getting a better chance now that they are making such bad business moves. I hope UFC goes DOWN!!! WE as fans deserve more then they are giving us!
I think Juanito and Page will shine on this show.
[quote comment="235831"][quote post="4234"]
UFC pay per view prices will increase in 2008
UFC 81: is already priced at $44.95 and I expect the prices to climb to $49.99 shortly after that event!
Geeze! The UFC is going to make me broke!
Plus ten bucks for HD. they better start showing all the fights then[/quote]
Its people like you that always spread false info about the ufc. the price of hd and standard definition will be 45 bux. they lowered hd by 5 and raised standard by 5.[/quote]
Mexican Vato or whatever your freakin nake is….I dont spread False info….UFC 81 will cost $44.95 and prices will go up to $49.44 shortly after that!
[quote comment="235716"]griffin will beat Rampage when they fight. I know everyone going to disagree with me but these are the reasons why.
1. Griffin is actually the larger man. Standing 6′3″ and weighing 225 at fight night. compare to rampage at 6′1″ and about 215 at fight night.
2. Griffin’s jits is underated and if rampage takes him down this won’t be a problem.
3. Griffin is a better striker. (yeah I know rampage ko chuck but it was just one punch)
4. Griffin dominated shogun and then submitted him. We all know what happened when shogun fought rampage.
alright I’m ready to hear how everyone is going to say I’m an idiot but just wait.[/quote]Dude, Rampage has beaten Liddell TWICE. So it wasn’t just one punch.