randy couture andrei arlovski
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Quoteworthy:

“I am not retired. I am waiting for my UFC contract to expire. I will fight Fedor Emelianenko.”

Randy Couture — who recently resigned from his post as UFC heavyweight champion — reiterates that he has not retired as a mixed martial arts fighter at the HDNet Fights show in Dallas, Texas, last night. “The Natural” indicated that his contractual obligations with the UFC expire in October 2008. Something tells me it’s not going to be that easy unless the UFC is somehow involved. Time will tell. In addition, former heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski indicated at the event that he is content to let his contract expire (he has one fight remaining on his current deal) in April 2008 and fight outside the Octagon.

UPDATE: The management team that represents Arlovski refutes the above report right here. In fact, “The Pitbull” is aiming to return to action in March under the UFC banner. We’ll see.

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Comment by Insain
2007-12-16 12:29:22

AA’s contract is up 1st so hopefully he’ll get to fedor b4 randy does!….1st, wicked!

 
Comment by rrequena
2007-12-16 12:34:20

I can’t believe the UFC isn’t giving Arlovski a fight. Is there something I’m missing here. So what if he lost two fights to chicken legs, he did win against Werdum (I know it wasn’t super pretty, but still).

 
Comment by Goatboy
2007-12-16 12:44:59

I always felt that Arlovski could beat Couture, great combination of power, speed, and agility. Too bad his last two fights weren’t the most exciting for UFC management.

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 12:52:21

nice one randy.. i already read this news from sherdog earlier.

all randy needs right now is stay on shape,wait for his contract expires, & just hopefully pray for fedor win his upcoming fights.

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 12:56:37

nice one randy.. i already read this news from shrdog earlier.

all randy needs right now is stay on shape,wait for his contract expires, & just hopefully pray for fedor win his upcoming fights

 
Comment by COR
2007-12-16 12:58:28

time is not on randys side

 
Comment by AndyK
2007-12-16 12:58:49

Thats f*cking good news mate!!!

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 13:02:25

[quote comment=”235690″]time is not on randys side[/quote]

most people already said that since or before he fought tito.
but as you can see the results of his career,

how can you doubt that man??

 
Comment by ragnarr
2007-12-16 13:04:46

I think Randy had a decent chance against Fedor in the octagon, because he is so good with the cage. In the ring, it’s really hard to see Randy winning, however I am still rooting for him, NEVER BET AGAINST COUTURE!!!

 
Comment by ragnarr
2007-12-16 13:07:54

No more Arlovski in the UFC huh? Thats kinda surprising to me, I wonder why he is leaving?

 
Comment by Patrick
2007-12-16 13:17:43

Fuck Dana White. What the fuck is he doing?!

 
Comment by elltwilightiott
2007-12-16 13:19:14

The UFC is pretty stupid for not having Arlovski fight for a ton of reasons. No matter who he’s fighting he draws in a huge crowd. Win or lose he’s exciting, despite the slap to the face by Werdum. Put him in there against anybody at heavyweight and I think he’d give them a run for their money. Arlovski is exciting because he’s fit and bounces around the ring with style unlike some fighters with the 2 punch jab as their only weapon in their arsenal. The fans of Arlovski have been waiting for a long time so see him back in the octagon, and I’m sure that if he was put in there next month he’d tear apart his next victim whoever it may be. He’s got something to prove again, just sucks that he’ll be fighting in another organization. Good for him though for making money in an organization that would probably care for him a lot more.

Arlovski- Go to the WEC and beat the crap out of rhino marshall, or just tear apart fedor like many of your fans known you can do.

 
Comment by Jo
2007-12-16 13:20:59

I bet you AA is sitting on the shelf because of Dana.

 
Comment by Ricky
2007-12-16 13:30:17

Dana white … you have one of the most exciting fights in your organization and u won’t let him fight… funny that Werdum is fighting on the same card of BJ Penn against Gonzaga…… Now thats stupid…. u got the boring fighter fight again and the exciting fight sit and watch!!! give gonzaga to arlovski and watch the exciting that will be… or even AA against Cheik Congo so many great match ups… but yet you continue to be the 1 dymentional fighter werdum with no stand up continue to fight

 
Comment by shamo84
2007-12-16 13:33:44

[quote comment=”235699″]I bet you AA is sitting on the shelf because of Dana.[/quote]
Yeah, Dana got pissed off after his boring fight against Verdum.
I agree with Dana, they are trying to expand in europe and Arloski was so boring right in front of the england crowd.

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 13:34:42

dana should be replace bny some else. somebody who’s not for all money purpose, but who really have care for fighters as well

 
Comment by Scott
2007-12-16 13:37:31

yea right randy. i dont think u wanna fight anyone, esp fedor.

 
Comment by Judoka
2007-12-16 13:44:16

Once again the Heavyweight division is about to be as exciting as watching paint dry. Letting Arlovski go is a bad decision. Letting Sylvia fight Nog for the vacant title is a worse decision.

The UFC should just scrap the Heavyweight division and send all of the fighters to the WEC and bring the 145lb division in instead.

The UFC brass bags on Arlovski for having a couple of boring fights, but yet they reward Sylvia with another title shot after a terrible showing against Vera and only one win after losing the title? Smells like bullshit to me.

 
Comment by EazyEismydad
2007-12-16 13:48:44

Lets keep in mind Dana has really had a simple job. The UFC was popular in the past but it faced decency issues and it needed heavier funding. Other organizations set the groundwork for the new rules and the Fertitta brothers handled the funding dumping 46 mil into the organization. Lorenzo Fertitta even handled the dirty work of getting the organization by screwing the former ownership and forcing them to sell.
Many say the explosion of the sport came from TUF, but thats been revealed to be Lorenzo Fertitta’s idea. Dana likes to take credit for their contract with Spike, but it just so happens they were desperate for programming at the time and they were fans of the early UFC.
Honestly, I just think he was in the right spot at the right time, but now he’s messing up and it sucks. I hope Mark Cuban takes over the whole game.

 
Comment by GORANDY
2007-12-16 13:57:55

IF AA needs to go because he has not been too exciting in a few of his recent fights which i agree 75 percent of
THEN TIM SYLVIS should have been to ride out his contract
something is wrong when we have top ufc talent RC AA and others riding out their contracts
Whats going on?
ANd to see them use Huerta , and Bisbing even though bisbing should rematch at least Matt Hammill who beat that british snot

 
Comment by Dom
2007-12-16 14:04:26

GoRandy,

Tim Sylvia wasn’t asking for a HUGE pay-raise like AA. Also, Tim whooped AA’s ass twice, I’d say he is a little more deserving of a contract.

 
Comment by wwerealm
2007-12-16 14:08:04

Randy would beat Fedor if they fought in October ‘08. I think Randy gets sharper as time goes by and Fedor shouldn’t present any problems for Randy whereever the fight goes. Randy is always improving his striking skills and he picks his shots with accuracy. In addition, Randy trains/grappled with some of the best ground fighters in the world and he can hold his own against ANYONE on the ground.

Randy Couture Defeats Fedor Emelianenko via Ref Stoppage (Rd. 2)

What is your opinion?

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 14:19:50

i can’t wait to see fedor get manhandle for the first time in his life..

 
Comment by Charlie
2007-12-16 14:56:09

I agree,Randy Couture will drop Fedor on his head!Then ground and pound him in to another world.I cant wait to see this fight.I only wish it was in the UFC.

 
Comment by (Republic not Northern) Irish UFC fan
2007-12-16 15:02:01

What a load of bollocks. Pitbull (along with Tim) carried the heavyweight division for ages. And this is how they repay him? I think its stupid too what Randys doing. He’s going chasing after Fedor. If Fedor truely wanted to fight him he woulda come to UFC. He pussied ooot and will again I’d say when the next opportunity comes around

 
Comment by JJplus12
2007-12-16 15:05:27

Its time the UFC realized that these exclusive contracts are making fighters not want to be with them.. They want to be able to fight elsewhere,. With the upstarts of HDNET and Strikeforce and Elite and now M1.. there is talent all over the place.. UFC has alot going against them now and fighters want to be able to fight when they want,, not when the UFC says when.

 
Comment by john
2007-12-16 15:07:47

I dunno how Dana can justify leting Arlovski go, especially with the state that the HW division is in right now. I think Arlovski vs. Noguerra would be the most appealing title fights to the fans, and probably be the best sell for the superbowl weekend event. Since Arlovski is asking for more then they are willing to pay, and only has a fight left in his contract they wont give him the title shot that he was promised. This is a very bad move.

I hope that Randy gets an opportunity to fight Fedor. If it isnt in an octagon Randy wioll be at a disadvantage. Also, we do not know under what rules they will be fighting. Will elbows be allowed? Kicks to the face of a downed opponent?

Also if this fight happens in October that will mean that Randy would have went a whole year with out fighting. He will be 45 years old by then, and I dont know how sharp he can be at his age without fighting for over a year. I hope the fight happens just because after the career Randy has had, he deserves to get a shot at Fedor.

I would like to see it happen in the octagon so that Randy can actually have a shot of winning, but I also hope it has nothing to do with the ufc, so that Dana cant make any money off of the fight. Pump it up dana’s ass. I hope that the biggest fight in MMA history happens, and Dana cant be a part of it!

 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2007-12-16 15:13:04

Randy is just trying to “save face”. He knows that it won’t happen. Couture just said last week or so that he wants to continue to be associated with the UFC??? Couture’s rep has really taken a nose dive.

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-16 15:16:23

You know what, this whole Couture-Fedor saga is lame. Sitting on the fence waiting for his contract to expire is crap. I liked watching Randy fight for the UFC in the octagon. It’s like comparing Micheal Jordan with the Chicago Bulls. Jordan was entertaining to watch in the red and black, when he left for the Wizards he pretty much died in me.

Honestly, Randy screwed up big time. He left the biggest showcase in MMA because he didn ‘t feel that he was appreciated. The UFC turned Couture into a star and now that he has celebrity leverage it’s soo easy for him to turn his back on his fans and sit around for some overrated match up between him and Fedor which won’t result in anything. What does he honestly expect to gain out of this? Even if he beats Fedor it won’t mean anything. Randy would be nothing without the UFC and his fans. The UFC is the biggest MMA platform in North America. UFC results are featured on all major Sports casters. If Couture fights Fedor on HD NET or M1 or whatever the popular culture won’t even acknowledge it and you can also guarantee that UFC will ensure that a blockbuster event will take place on Spike the same night.

It looks like greed has consumed Randy, and it’s almost shameful to read anymore developments about this whole ordeal as it’s only foreshadowing an ugly and regretable conclusion for Randy Couture.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-16 15:19:07

[quote comment=”235693″][quote comment=”235690″]time is not on randys side[/quote]

most people already said that since or before he fought tito.
but as you can see the results of his career,

how can you doubt that man??[/quote]

I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…

 
Comment by b.w.
2007-12-16 15:22:41

[quote comment=”235708″]Lets keep in mind Dana has really had a simple job. The UFC was popular in the past but it faced decency issues and it needed heavier funding. Other organizations set the groundwork for the new rules and the Fertitta brothers handled the funding dumping 46 mil into the organization. Lorenzo Fertitta even handled the dirty work of getting the organization by screwing the former ownership and forcing them to sell.
Many say the explosion of the sport came from TUF, but thats been revealed to be Lorenzo Fertitta’s idea. Dana likes to take credit for their contract with Spike, but it just so happens they were desperate for programming at the time and they were fans of the early UFC.
Honestly, I just think he was in the right spot at the right time, but now he’s messing up and it sucks. I hope Mark Cuban takes over the whole game.[/quote]
say what you want about dana, but i bet he puts in about 80 hrs a week with the ufc. cuban is a rich joke and a buffoon he probably puts in about 2hrs a weeek in hdnet. cuban’s got to much else going on w/ the mavericks, trying to buy the cubs, movie producing, dancing w/ the stars etc. he just another billionaire like calvin ayre who doesnt really give a shit about mma, he’s just triyng to be opportunistic and make a quick buck!

 
Comment by skatanicus
2007-12-16 15:26:53

The UFC really knows how to screw things up… Randy says he’s waiting another 10 months till his UFC contract expires, so that he can fight again… and this is good news?! If Dana is punishing Arlovski for the Werdum fight then he’s a lot stupider than he looks, cause Arlovski is not the kind of guy you get on for boring fights. Can anyone say… wrestlers?

 
Comment by JRV
2007-12-16 15:30:23

This is terrible news. Randy is acting like a little bitch and Arlovski is leaving the UFC. Also i dont hate Timmy. In his last fight it was Vera always wanting to clinch up. Timmy wanted to stand and trade shots.

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-16 15:35:52

[quote comment=”235708″]Lets keep in mind Dana has really had a simple job. The UFC was popular in the past but it faced decency issues and it needed heavier funding. Other organizations set the groundwork for the new rules and the Fertitta brothers handled the funding dumping 46 mil into the organization. Lorenzo Fertitta even handled the dirty work of getting the organization by screwing the former ownership and forcing them to sell.
Many say the explosion of the sport came from TUF, but thats been revealed to be Lorenzo Fertitta’s idea. Dana likes to take credit for their contract with Spike, but it just so happens they were desperate for programming at the time and they were fans of the early UFC.
Honestly, I just think he was in the right spot at the right time, but now he’s messing up and it sucks. I hope Mark Cuban takes over the whole game.[/quote]

I don’t see how the UFC and management are screwing things up at all. Randy is acting like a baby plain and simple. Sure Couture fought in the early days and had his defining moments, but everybody forgets that the UFC made Couture’s status. They gave him opportunities to succeed, over and over again, signed him to a four fight contract after two back to back losses and gave him an immediate title shot in a heavier division. “oh he’s done soo much for the sport…” He was able to do soo much because the UFC gave him the opportunity. It’s obvious that Randy feels that he should be number one with whoever he fights for, as far as I’m concerned, Randy fell into an opportunity when he won the HW title. He never earned a title shot, he took advantage of a situation and thats it and now he’s letting his pride get in the way and ruin his career.

 
Comment by RHV
2007-12-16 15:47:58

I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.

ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.

How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.

Total crap.

 
Comment by rsg
2007-12-16 16:00:43

If Dana or the Fertitas stop this fight happening where there is a possibility it can go throught after Randy’s contract ends they will be very unpopular with a lot of people, myself included. How Arlovski’s contract situation plays out will give us an idea of what will happen with Randy, because it is unclear whether the time period which is until April 2008 for Arlovski and October 2008 for Randy is the deciding factor which will mean the Randy vs Fedor fight can take place OR if it is the number of fights left on fighter contracts that is the deciding contract feature then we might not see the fight because the UFC will cause legal hassle.
As a fan I just want to see the fight like the majority of people and dont mind whether or not it is under the UFC promotion. It’s not like they share the money out anyway and Fedor and Randy will get the huge paycheck they deserve. Sorry for the long post.

 
Comment by creeks
2007-12-16 16:03:09

[quote comment=”235744″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.

ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.

How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.

Total crap.[/quote]

Well that why your not the CEO or top anything for that matter of ZUFFA. “News Flash” business believe it or not isn’t fair. Dana was wrong but he was acting in the best interest of the company. Randy was also wrong but he was acting in the best interests of himself. Your getting morals mixed up with business. At the end of the day you have to look out for numero uno partner.

 
Comment by GORANDY
2007-12-16 16:16:18

[quote comment=”235713″]GoRandy,

Tim Sylvia wasn’t asking for a HUGE pay-raise like AA. Also, Tim whooped AA’s ass twice, I’d say he is a little more deserving of a contract.[/quote]
AA did not finish out his contract the ufc will not give hima fight and tim s vs aa were both stupid boring fights you know this no one got their A$$ handed to them.
DAna gotta change

 
Comment by rsg
2007-12-16 16:18:49

Theres a lot of people taking sides either defending Randy or the UFC. At the end of the day this is not what the debate is about. Its about making the Randy vs Fedor fight possible. In terms of huge fights this is the biggest ever and at least 10 times bigger than Wandy vs Chuck, because both fighters are at the top of the Heavyweight division, at the top of their game and the story behind this fight is huge. It’s like the real life Rocky 4, Randy as Rocky and Fedor, Ivan Drago easily the most marketable fight in history and would be great for MMA after Mayweather’s boxing fights with Dela Hoya and Hatton. There has not been a lot of heavyweight superfights in ages eigher in MMA or Boxing so this fight would be huge. Those defending the UFC over Randy on trying to make this fight happen are Stupid what have you got to gain from Dana White preventing this fight.

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-16 16:26:02

I can’t believe i’m actually using this guy’s name to establish my point, oh well…Tito Ortiz and the UFC have been butting heads for how long? I’m sure Tito has had a number of opportunities to headline under a different promotion, but yet he is still with the UFC. As much as Dana and Tito battle, the difference between Tito and Couture in the business aspect, is that Tito can identify the difference between decisions being either business related or personal. Randy agreed to his last contract before Pride was purchased, and of course the UFC would have to stay competitive in order to secure top level talent. In any professional sport, there are atheletes who negotiate ridiculously huge contracts even though they may not be considered the best athelete in the sport. The UFC put Randy Couture on a pedestal, above anybody else. He had a whole Spike TV special called “the natural” or whatever. The UFC never had anything like that for Chuck or Matt Hughes. So all in all Randy can hide behind his Fedor wishes, but ultimately what’s keeping him out of the Octagon is only about money.

Randy states that one reason he left was due to the UFCs inability to sign Fedor, yet he was insulted that they were throwing alot of money Fedor’s way. So if I understand correctly, The UFC was trying to make the fight happen, but i guess the only way it could have been done so that it met Randy’s standards would have been to only offer Fedor a weaker contract than Randy’s????…..

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-16 16:31:30

[quote comment=”235744″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.

ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.

How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.

Total crap.[/quote]

Randy Couture did not take the UFC to the top. Guys like Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, GSP, etc brought the UFC to the top. Don’t get me wrong, Randy did a lot for the UFC, but when he left, he let down a lot of people. If it weren’t for Dana White and the Fertitta brothers saving the UFC, RANDY WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS TODAY. NO MOVIES, NO CLOTHING COMPANY. HE would probably only be running his gym. THE UFC BUILT “THE NATURAL.”

 
Comment by Ray
2007-12-16 16:31:50

Randy crushes Fedor! Arlovski has to find a way to fight other than throwing punches and running away.

 
Comment by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!
2007-12-16 16:35:44

GOOD FOR YOU RANDY!!!i cant say i blame you to wait to fight this bum fedor….everybody talks this punk up to be sombody when he hasn’t fought anybody yet to be credible….WHOOOAA….matt linland…..watch out people…lol randy i cant wait till you beat this sorry ass …..godd again for you randy!!!

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-16 16:47:48

[quote comment=”235744″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.

ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.

How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.

Total crap.[/quote]

Great Analogy,
But didn’t Randy agree to his contract? One would think that if they had a problem with what they were getting paid then why would one ever work for whoever in the first place?

And two, Faxing in a resignation and immediately start slandering the people that got you to where you are a way of airing your grievances makes you look like a spoiled baby.

 
Comment by bushswinger
2007-12-16 17:06:11

I really hope Fedor loses his next fight. then have chuck norris to come in the ufc and fight at heavyweight only to destroy anything and everything entering the octagon. that’ll set up the superfight against couture. i can’t wait for all this to happen.

 
Comment by momo
2007-12-16 17:08:57

“Just to clarify from last night’s show, Randy Couture never said last night he would be facing Fedor Emelianenko after October. He said he’d like to, but just because he’ll be out of the date of his UFC contract, he still owes them two more fights that he’s not planning on doing. Nothing regarding him fighting again will be decided until the legal proceedings are over, and they are only in their preliminary stages.”
From D.Meltzer in todays “Wrestling Observer Update.”

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-16 17:13:33

[quote comment=”235774″][quote comment=”235744″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.

ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.

How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.

Total crap.[/quote]

Randy Couture did not take the UFC to the top. Guys like Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, GSP, etc brought the UFC to the top. Don’t get me wrong, Randy did a lot for the UFC, but when he left, he let down a lot of people. If it weren’t for Dana White and the Fertitta brothers saving the UFC, RANDY WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS TODAY. NO MOVIES, NO CLOTHING COMPANY. HE would probably only be running his gym. THE UFC BUILT “THE NATURAL.”[/quote]

Exactly…People forget what Randy Couture’s resumee reads,
“Randy Couture Former UFC Heavyweight Champion” or even if he still claims to be the champ. Randy’s success is based on how the UFC promoted him.

Like you said The Natural would be nothing without the UFC

 
Comment by broncos12405
2007-12-16 17:24:22

Everything is getting fucked up. What the hell is Dana thinking letting AA go

 
Comment by dia mette
2007-12-16 17:29:49

Very smart move by Randy He only wants to fight one more time and he wants to go out with a bang Randy will make more money in this fight with fedor then he ever made in his ufc career.

That was amazing watching randy cotoures interview on the msnbc show last week. He was saying how he never wanted to fight anywhere else but the ufc but now he doesnt want to fight there anymore they really pissed him off.

IF YOU THINK THIS IS BAD FOR THE UFC JUST WAIT WHEN DAN HENDERSON BECOMES MIDDLEWAIT CHAMPION and then doesnt re-sign a new contract because its a shitty offer

 
Comment by bryant
2007-12-16 17:40:52

let arlovski go but keep tim slyvia?? what are they thinking??

 
Comment by the truth
2007-12-16 17:41:09

AA could fight Fedor’s bro, Monson, Barnett, shit at this rate their will be enough heavyweights outside the ufc for us to start ordering some PPV’s.

PS Screw dana white, he sucks! So does Rogan.

 
Comment by gorelord
2007-12-16 18:11:01

[quote comment=”235695″]No more Arlovski in the UFC huh? Thats kinda surprising to me, I wonder why he is leaving?[/quote]
yea, what the hell Dana, quit bitchin sign him a new contract dammit.

 
Comment by David
2007-12-16 18:24:21

Cant wait to see Fedor make couture his bitch lol, so halarious these ‘UFC’ fans saying that fedor is going to be crushed LOL!!!!! Couture isnt going to pull that pussy shit that he did with gonzaga on Fedor, he tries to strike with fedor hes gonna be on his ass seeing stars….He tries to do anything hes gonna be on his ass.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-12-16 18:31:47

cmon guys dont hate on Dana He has done sooo much for the sport mma. DANA WHITE 4 PRESIDENT.

It Wont Happen But I’d Laugh If Hong Man Chow Knocks Fedor Out Then What Is Randy Gonna Do.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-12-16 19:00:45

If Dana lets AA go he is stupid and i don’t think Dana is stupid.he knows in the back of his mind that AA puts asses in seats.AA didnt say he was leaving he said he would be content with letting his contract expire then fight elsewhere.that doesn’t mean its set in stone.plus i cant remember where i saw it or read it but a fan was asking Dana about when we were going to see AA and Dana replied ’soon’!so im thinking AA will fight his last fight and contract renewal will be based on his performance.pit bull fan for life.i know AA been asking and saying in alot of interviews he would like one more fight with tim.KILL PIT BULL KILL!!!!!!!

 
Comment by RobH86
2007-12-16 19:09:55

[quote post=”4232″]The UFC should just scrap the Heavyweight division and send all of the fighters to the WEC and bring the 145lb division in instead.[/quote]

Yeah I said the exact same thing on another forum, half jokingly of course. But actually the more I think about it the more I’m seriously beginning to like this idea. Most heavyweights are boring. WW, LW and FW is where it’s all going on if you ask me. 205 is also stacked at the moment.

 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2007-12-16 19:18:53

It looks like Randy has the “Yoko Syndrome”. I doubt very much that Couture will end up “outsmarting” the Fertitta brothers over the long haul. Couture seems like such a “prima donna” these days. I’ve noticed that Couture has never said anything about the signing bonus lie that Lorenzo Fertitta called him on. Arlovski on the other hand, is probably asking for too much money.

 
Comment by skatanicus
2007-12-16 19:19:49

Couture shouldn’t have signed the contract he’s currently under if he was going to get the title in one fight, defend it once, then wait for Fedor. Obviously Couture made a mistake. People can say that it doesn’t make sense for Couture to fight anyone but Fedor, but I think it does. I never put Couture higher then Nogueira- Minotauro is the number 2 HW in the world, the pride haters can say what they want, Big Nog would be the world’s top ranked Heavyweight if not for Fedor. Randy should take this time that he’s not fighting Fedor and fight Nogueira. I think that’s what he would be doing if he was truly focusing on fighting, he’s just got a lot of other crap on his plate and he thinks he deserves Fedor.

As for Fedor losing to Hong Man Choi, hell I’m starting to think it would be a good outcome, cause it might force Randy to give Nogueira some respect and fight him instead of waiting stubbornly for Fedor.

 
Comment by jess
2007-12-16 19:56:16

I think we inferred through earlier reports, that AA is basically being benched in a contract renewal dispute. Dana won’t let a fighter fight their last fight until a renewal has been signed. I’d imagine AA is holding out for more money that Dana will not agree to deserves. He’s probably holding that last fight over his head.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-16 19:56:46

[quote comment=”235739″]This is terrible news. Randy is acting like a little bitch and Arlovski is leaving the UFC. Also i dont hate Timmy. In his last fight it was Vera always wanting to clinch up. Timmy wanted to stand and trade shots.[/quote]

Thank you for saying one of the most obvious and smartest things about this situation. Arlovski wants to get a superstart contract coming off of losing two fights to Tim-a nobody MArcio Cruz- A Less then Stellar winning performance against WErdum. UFC wants to wait till after his last fight to resign him so they can base his new contract on his performance.

Randy thinks he screwed the UFC, when in all actuality he has screwed himself. Most of the long time Randy fans I know have lost major respect for him. He said the only fight that make sense to him is Fedor. What about Big Nog? He is to good for Big Nog? That is crazy for Randy to think he is to good to fight Big Nog, AA, or rematch tim. Rnady is full of shit and has disrespected us the fans, the people that spend $40 per month or some $500 a year on pay perviews. He may have shafted the UFC but I feel he has hurt the fans more than anyting.

I also agree with what you have said about the Timmy/Verra fight. Did all you people complaing about the Verra and Sylvia fight watch the action? Verra was the one clenching up. Even after Tim said lets go Verra. Verra cried that he broke his hand in the first. He should realize that most of that know anything about fighting know that after a few minutes the hand goes numb and you can still hit with it, thanks to the tape. Hell if Randy can fisinish a fight with Gonzaga with a broken arm, Verra could hit with a broken hand…

 
Comment by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY!
2007-12-16 20:10:10

randy is the best in the business period….end of discussion on this blog……simply the best. though i feel bad for andre he deserves better than this.

 
Comment by Big House
2007-12-16 20:19:47

I love Randy as much as the next person but he really needs to be careful. Fedor did not get where he is by beating lightweights. This is not going to be the steamroll people think it will be. I don’t know that I would bet against Fedor, but I also would not bet the house on Randy either.

 
Comment by RandySUCKS
2007-12-16 20:32:50

Randy should thank god everyday for being the hw champ. he should have never gotten a hw title shot to begin with and he feels hes being treated unfairly. What a baby. I USED to like randy, but what an ungrateful crybaby. I hope he gets brain damage when he finally gets to fight fedor - maybe then he’ll think straight.

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-12-16 20:46:51

[quote comment=”235735″][quote comment=”235693″][quote comment=”235690″]time is not on randys side[/quote]

most people already said that since or before he fought tito.
but as you can see the results of his career,

how can you doubt that man??[/quote]

I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…[/quote]

if that so, tim must not fought that night, if he’ll gonna make excuses any way.. tim mouths off about his injury since he was lost to couture. so if you’ll make excuses after the fight if you loose, then dont fight. like to matt serra, i hate the fact that he’ll not fight in dec29, but he’s the man, coz he rather sit to the bench for a while rather than to fight w/injury.

so your perception is if you believe that randy would get dominated by silvia if he fought tim w/no injury,, then all fighters that lost in a fight before w/injury are the one who acutually must won their fight

 
Comment by nate diaz
2007-12-16 21:23:53

it is randys right to choose where when and who he wants to fight

hell get a big payday from the fedor fight wherever it happens and you can guarauntee it will be on ppv and all true mma fans will happily pay for the privelidge of watching it

AA is making a good decision by moving on
dana and the UFC havent shown him much respect and it would be incredibly foolish for him to just take some measly offer that they put on the table

elsewhere he will be a superstar and will have far more options for matchups with different organisations

fedor josh barnett possibly randy …the best HW arent in the ufc

 
Comment by c-war
2007-12-16 21:34:33

The UFC is going to regret this.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-16 22:09:29

[quote comment=”235943″][quote comment=”235735″][quote comment=”235693″][quote comment=”235690″]time is not on randys side[/quote]

most people already said that since or before he fought tito.
but as you can see the results of his career,

how can you doubt that man??[/quote]

I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…[/quote]

if that so, tim must not fought that night, if he’ll gonna make excuses any way.. tim mouths off about his injury since he was lost to couture. so if you’ll make excuses after the fight if you loose, then dont fight. like to matt serra, i hate the fact that he’ll not fight in dec29, but he’s the man, coz he rather sit to the bench for a while rather than to fight w/injury.

so your perception is if you believe that randy would get dominated by silvia if he fought tim w/no injury,, then all fighters that lost in a fight before w/injury are the one who acutually must won their fight[/quote]

Your perception is is what needs another go. Look at what I wrote again before questioning my perception. I wrote Randy would win the fight did I not? I just said he would not have dominated Tim the way he did. So no I do not see things the way you wrote. I do not think Tim was straight making excuses either I believe he said it would have been a much different fight, I do not believe he said that he would have wonif he were healthy. If he did then my memory does not serve me as well as I thought. You must have made your assumptions on my statement without finishing what I wrote….

 
Comment by paniczoo
2007-12-16 22:09:42

If the RC v. Fedor fight ever takes place I wont be paying to watch it.
I would suggest that a huge majority of mma fans have a bad taste in their mouth after eating all this BS from Fedor and Randy (not to mention the money grabbing bstards behind this fiasco.)
There are so many alternative ways to watch this fight - youtube, divx stage 6, torrents, limewire p2p etc… it wouldnt surprise me (or bother me) if this “HeavyWeight Superfight” makes no profit at all.
In the meantime i will continue my monthly PPV with UFC and let these HDNET M1 clowns scramble for the crums.

 
Comment by 12121212
2007-12-16 22:21:53

[quote post=”4232″]The UFC is going to regret this.[/quote]

Definately.

Fedor needs to get beat in order to make the heavyweight division interesting.

Arlovski, Couture, and Sylvia are the most likely to make it happen.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-16 22:28:04

[quote comment=”235965″]it is randys right to choose where when and who he wants to fight
[/quote]

I thought by signing a Legal Contract, you do not have the right to do what ever you want. You have the right to do whatever you want as long as the contract holder agrees it is what is best for terms of contract. By signing a contract you are agreeing to do abide by the rules and stipulations of the the contract. At the end of the terms you can resign or negotiate new terms or walk away….

 
Comment by Scott
2007-12-16 22:31:36

[quote comment=”235731″]Randy is just trying to “save face”. He knows that it won’t happen. Couture just said last week or so that he wants to continue to be associated with the UFC??? Couture’s rep has really taken a nose dive.[/quote]

totally agree. he knows it wont happen so he just keeps saying he wants to fight fedor.

 
Comment by bone2pick
2007-12-16 23:41:59

So Couture waiting for Fedor… that is a given seeing on the only reason he came out of retirement was because of a personal agreement with DW to get rid of the big lug Tim, as AA had too much to lose by taking risks and Randy just didn’t. Randy was following Whites’s gameplan to have Fedor join in which would be the biggest UFC event ever… so now UFC is relying on their 2nd UFC money maker Silvia v Liddell (who never follows a unpredictable game plan) but has enough fans to get the bets in which will be an guaranteed upset in the gambling world seeing on how Wandy is a sure win. So we discover from Randy’s actions that it is certainly not AA who is boring fighter but Tim.. who was destroying the HW division. DW was up to a good strategy, but has now completely destroyed that by not having a few other gameplans up his sleeve. Yeah sure, Fedor and Couture are the only fighters to make him the most money but after Liddell loses to Wandy and Fedor never agreeing to join America with Couture not willing to fight anyone else… what is left? Seein on how UFC is now losing an unthoughtof gameplan #2 with AA. What a way to go down. I thought this was suppose to be the hightlights of UFC history! I guess the only thing left to do is have Tim and AA go at it again? urrrggg

 
Comment by evangelion27
2007-12-17 00:43:44

Everyone saying Randy will beat Fedor. lol hahahaha… I really enjoy watching Randy and respect him, but come on… all you UFC nut huggers should watch some of his fights. NO WAY Fedor id losing anytime soon, unless it’s a la “GSP vs Serra”. But then again, Fedor would never get caught like that, just like GSP will NEVER again get caught like that. FEDOR ID UNBEATABLE!

 
Comment by Gord
2007-12-17 00:57:13

[quote post=”4232″]Randy would beat Fedor if they fought in October “08. I think Randy gets sharper as time goes by and Fedor shouldn’t present any problems for Randy whereever the fight goes. Randy is always improving his striking skills and he picks his shots with accuracy. In addition, Randy trains/grappled with some of the best ground fighters in the world and he can hold his own against ANYONE on the ground.
Randy Couture Defeats Fedor Emelianenko via Ref Stoppage (Rd. 2)
What is your opinion? [/quote]
I agree with you.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-12-17 01:12:46

[quote post=”4232″]You know what, this whole Couture-Fedor saga is lame. Sitting on the fence waiting for his contract to expire is crap. I liked watching Randy fight for the UFC in the octagon. It’s like comparing Micheal Jordan with the Chicago Bulls. Jordan was entertaining to watch in the red and black, when he left for the Wizards he pretty much died in me.
Honestly, Randy screwed up big time. He left the biggest showcase in MMA because he didn “t feel that he was appreciated. The UFC turned Couture into a star and now that he has celebrity leverage it’s soo easy for him to turn his back on his fans and sit around for some overrated match up between him and Fedor which won’t result in anything. What does he honestly expect to gain out of this? Even if he beats Fedor it won’t mean anything. Randy would be nothing without the UFC and his fans. The UFC is the biggest MMA platform in North America. UFC results are featured on all major Sports casters. If Couture fights Fedor on HD NET or M1 or whatever the popular culture won’t even acknowledge it and you can also guarantee that UFC will ensure that a blockbuster event will take place on Spike the same night.
It looks like greed has consumed Randy, and it’s almost shameful to read anymore developments about this whole ordeal as it’s only foreshadowing an ugly and regretable conclusion for Randy Couture. [/quote]
It’s not a one way street. It’s guys like Randy who made the UFC. Without guys like him , the UFC would just be another low budget organization. Give the guy a break, he knows he will retire soon and he wants to beat the guy (Fedor) who alot (wrongfully) consider the best HW. He thinks he can do it and so do I. What better way to end his career.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-12-17 01:31:37

[quote post=”4232″]I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…[/quote]
Don’t forget Randy was way more of a baby,when he fought Barnet than GG is now. Randy didn’t start MMA until he was like 33 years old. As for Sylvia , Randy used to train with him and he always owned him and he always will,no matter what condition his back is in.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-12-17 01:46:53

[quote post=”4232″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.
ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.
How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.
Total crap.
Randy Couture did not take the UFC to the top. Guys like Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, GSP, etc brought the UFC to the top. Don’t get me wrong, Randy did a lot for the UFC, but when he left, he let down a lot of people. If it weren’t for Dana White and the Fertitta brothers saving the UFC, RANDY WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS TODAY. NO MOVIES, NO CLOTHING COMPANY. HE would probably only be running his gym. THE UFC BUILT “THE NATURAL.”
Exactly…People forget what Randy Couture’s resumee reads,
“Randy Couture Former UFC Heavyweight Champion” or even if he still claims to be the champ. Randy’s success is based on how the UFC promoted him.
Like you said The Natural would be nothing without the UFC [/quote]
The UFC is NOTHING without GREAT fighters. What good is a car without any gas. How many PPV would they sell if Joe Shmoe ,Bert Shnert and Vern Mcburn were headlining it.

 
Comment by Mike is here.
2007-12-17 01:58:45

randy said he would never fight outside of the UFC…LIAR. UFC is still ELITE. WITH OR WITHOUT RANDY. AA=GARBAGE. so no biggie there.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-17 03:59:22

Randy will beat Fedor, if Fedor even accepts the fight that little chump. The day that fight is announced in another organization is the day Dana expiriances the biggest regret he has ever felt.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-12-17 05:06:26

fedor is very overrated he would get delt a beating in the ufc by many guys. Remember the matt lindland fight. and the mark hunt fight. Dont get me wrong Fedor is a tough dude but Randy Would Beat Him.

 
Comment by AdamYves
2007-12-17 06:44:18

Boycott the UFC!!

 
Comment by James Smith
2007-12-17 07:37:07

In regards to the Ryan Gracie topic (I would’ve posted there, but I think they cut it off.) For once on this site, let’s wait til all the facts emerge before condemning him in the court of public opinion. To speculate on death is a little different than speculating on fights. If he did it, well, foolish choices led to it. If he didn’t, well……I don’t know. Remember, no one knows what someone else is going through unless they,ve been there themselves.

 
Comment by James Smith
2007-12-17 07:39:36

Hope it takes place THE MOMENT Randy’s contract expires. Tough guy or not, he’s not getting any younger. Eventually Father Time will catch up to him.

 
Comment by ToeLock
2007-12-17 08:06:42

[quote comment=”235686″]nice one randy.. i already read this news from sherdog earlier.

all randy needs right now is stay on shape,wait for his contract expires, & just hopefully pray for fedor win his upcoming fights.[/quote]

Bollocks! Don’t get me wrong i still like what Randy has done… but for some reason now i wanna see him get beat the f*** up!!! I hope it takes another 2 years for the Fedor fight, then he’ll be like 65!

And it is already so over hyped…Fedor by TKO in about 30 seconds!

 
Comment by zack the lumberjack
2007-12-17 10:50:20

[quote comment=”235695″]No more Arlovski in the UFC huh? Thats kinda surprising to me, I wonder why he is leaving?[/quote]
because the ufc is retarted and danna white is a f**king idoit now they let AA slip out of their greedy little hands its a damn shame i would love to see AA back in the title pic since randy left but mabey hi will fight fedor first that would be a good fight

 
Comment by E. Fairway
2007-12-17 10:52:29

I hope that they let Andrei Arlovski back in the octagon. He was one of the main reasons that I got into the UFC and MMA. I think Arlovski should have a title shot, and would be a great champion.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2007-12-17 11:36:39

Let’s face it, AA hasn’t been the same fighter since losing to Tim the first time. Now he fights not to lose instead of just BEATING his opponent. I would love it if he would get over his trauma and become the old AA again, but I don’t blame the UFC for not wanting to give him a HUGE raise until he proves it. At the same time, who can blame AA for not re-signing if he knows he can go get more somewhere else. It’s too bad that he can’t be considered a restricted free agent where he can entertain other offers, and then the UFC can decide if they want to match the highest offer or let him walk to another organization.

 
Comment by Jordan
2007-12-17 11:42:06

[quote comment=”236089″][quote post=”4232″]I don’t buy the “UFC did so much for Randy” argument. That’s BS.
ANALOGY:
If you were working for a company as a salesman and took the company to the top by earning millions in revenue, don’t tell me you wouldn’t leave if they weren’t paying you enough.
How would you feel if after you expressed your grievances, people said you were a pussy because your company gave you the opportunity to be the best salesman out there.
Total crap.
Randy Couture did not take the UFC to the top. Guys like Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, GSP, etc brought the UFC to the top. Don’t get me wrong, Randy did a lot for the UFC, but when he left, he let down a lot of people. If it weren’t for Dana White and the Fertitta brothers saving the UFC, RANDY WOULD NOT BE WHERE HE IS TODAY. NO MOVIES, NO CLOTHING COMPANY. HE would probably only be running his gym. THE UFC BUILT “THE NATURAL.”
Exactly…People forget what Randy Couture’s resumee reads,
“Randy Couture Former UFC Heavyweight Champion” or even if he still claims to be the champ. Randy’s success is based on how the UFC promoted him.
Like you said The Natural would be nothing without the UFC [/quote]
The UFC is NOTHING without GREAT fighters. What good is a car without any gas. How many PPV would they sell if Joe Shmoe ,Bert Shnert and Vern Mcburn were headlining it.[/quote]

The UFC could sell anybody into being a star, When the UFC started to explode, Randy was losing and then subsequently retired, they still kept him around commentating and in the TUF scene and if anybody else besides Tim Silvia was HW champ he would’ve stayed retired. Randy agreed to his contract, as his career really started to take off, some asshole told him that he was an idiot for signing his contract and now he wants more money. Randy Couture has never been the biggest draw for the UFC, Chuck and Tito 2 was the biggest in PPW buys not Couture and Silvia or Couture and Gonzaga.

The Pro Randy’s are forgetting that the guy lied to everybody trying to smear the UFC.

Randy is picking a fight with the wrong people, and he’s going to lose a lot of money over this…

 
Comment by kickinthehead
2007-12-17 12:36:04

[quote comment=”235717″]i can’t wait to see fedor get manhandle for the first time in his life..[/quote]
not gonna happen i a ring.. fedor will own randy in the ring..anyone should see this..

 
Comment by Sacto
2007-12-17 12:52:48

Are their contract situations different because Randy has been allegedly offered a fight and Arlovski has not? If they are in the same boat and the UFC disputes that they have fulfilled their contracts (which seemed to be what Dana was talking about earlier in this mess), then Randy seems to have the advantage of seeing what the outcome of any legal action with the UFC and Arlovski turns out to be.

Also, with a potential Randy/Fedor fight outside the UFC in late 2008, would Fedor risk fighting Arlovski before he fought Randy? Seems like Arlovski/Fedor would be huge, but not as big a payday as Couture/Fedor.

 
Comment by john
2007-12-17 13:12:23

[quote comment=”235739″]This is terrible news. Randy is acting like a little bitch and Arlovski is leaving the UFC. Also i dont hate Timmy. In his last fight it was Vera always wanting to clinch up. Timmy wanted to stand and trade shots.[/quote]

No sh*t Timmy wanted to trade shots and not clinch, he had a foot reach advantage over Verra….I hate Tim more than anyone but your point was just …

 
Comment by jimmy_dean
2007-12-17 13:45:25

[quote comment=”236378″][quote comment=”235717″]i can’t wait to see fedor get manhandle for the first time in his life..[/quote]
not gonna happen i a ring.. fedor will own randy in the ring..anyone should see this..[/quote]
If you are a great fighter I don’t think it really matters if you fight in the ring or in the cage you And if this is in a cage and Randy wins I don’t I don’t want to hear all you Fedor fans saying the cage was the reason and if Fedor wins in a ring I won’t have any excuses I’ll just say thatI was wrong and Fedor is #1. If anyone thinks that this fight is gonna be one sided for either guy then you must be smoking something. These guys are two of the greastest fighters of our time and it’s gonna be a war!

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-17 13:55:08

Randy will only beat Fedor in a octagon shaped ring and under US Regulated Rules. If Fedor fights Randy in the US he will be at a disadvantage, and will struggle or lose like most of the guys that were brought here from PRIDE (with the exception of Anderson Silva and Rampage).

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-17 14:55:08

[quote comment=”236084″][quote post=”4232″]I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…[/quote]
Don’t forget Randy was way more of a baby,when he fought Barnet than GG is now. Randy didn’t start MMA until he was like 33 years old. As for Sylvia , Randy used to train with him and he always owned him and he always will,no matter what condition his back is in.[/quote]

What are you talking about when he fought Josh Barnett He already had 13 fights in 2001 and they both began there MMA career in 1997. Barnett only had 10 fights at that point so clearly with Randy’s age, Rnadys experience in Grecco Roman and the amount of time he had been wrestling, clearly gave him the exoerience upper hand over Barnett? So I do not get your point in argument. A younger less experienced Josh BArnett beat Randy.

 
Comment by b.w.
2007-12-17 15:12:31

[quote comment=”236460″][quote comment=”236084″][quote post=”4232″]I like Randy Couture alot but facts are facts, He has a had a really hard time with the best of the best in the HW tier. Josh Barnett and Rico Rodriguez(before his downfall). He beat Tim Sylvia but if you seriously tink he would have dominated a healthy Tim Sylvia the way he beat herniated disk Tim you are crazy. He would probably still have won that night because he came out with something to prove,but I think it would have been a much different fight, and I am suprised he did not let Tim get a rematch. Gonzaga was a great win over a well versed fighter but he is still a a baby in the world of MMA, with lots to learn. I think he has a gfreat style to beat Fedor but his HW career has not been all that impressive overall. Randy’s success come through strategy and the ability to dirty box. When he can not press a fighter against the cage, ie Chuck Liddell, he does not usually look that good. So his success against Fedor will all lie upon pressing Fedor against the cage, in a boxing ring Couture may end up being on the wrong side of a train wreck style beat down. I also am amazed that he would not see how he would stand up against Big Nog, since he is the guyu Fedor gives most respect to…[/quote]
Don’t forget Randy was way more of a baby,when he fought Barnet than GG is now. Randy didn’t start MMA until he was like 33 years old. As for Sylvia , Randy used to train with him and he always owned him and he always will,no matter what condition his back is in.[/quote]

What are you talking about when he fought Josh Barnett He already had 13 fights in 2001 and they both began there MMA career in 1997. Barnett only had 10 fights at that point so clearly with Randy’s age, Rnadys experience in Grecco Roman and the amount of time he had been wrestling, clearly gave him the exoerience upper hand over Barnett? So I do not get your point in argument. A younger less experienced Josh BArnett beat Randy.[/quote]
on steroids!

 
Comment by Nine Duce
2007-12-17 17:42:27

I hope the UFC sticks it to Randy “I’m too great to fight anyone but Fedor” Couture. I hope they sue him for backing out on a contract he didn’t even deserve. Thanks for showing what a cowardly opportunist you are by vacating the title for the second time. Everyone is so quick to point fingers at the UFC, forgetting that Randy quit on the UFC, the UFC didn’t quit on Randy. I’m surprised that with all the proof of Randy’s untruths(i.e. the Bonus checks) that more of the ignorant fans on this site would open their eyes to who/what Randy really is.

 
Comment by UFCAddict
2007-12-17 18:07:58

To say that it wouldn’t make a difference if they fought in a cage or a ring is to underestimate the value of homefield advantage. When is the last time Couture fought in a ring? When is the last time Fedor fought in a cage? Both of them are smart enough fighters to have used their enviornments to their advantage. To take one of their environments away is practically like taking away a lot of their experience (not to mention the possible rules differences). It would be like a crocodile fighting a lion. In the water, the croc would have the advantage. On the land, the lion would have the advantage. Each of them would still have a chance, but depending where and with what rules would change the game completely. This is, afterall, an MMA competition, not a street fight. When Nadal and Federer play tennis, most of the time the winner is determined by what surface they play on… clay or grass.

 
Comment by RHV
2007-12-17 23:03:02

I’m delighted my post received so much attention!

Randy did agree to the contract and he is still abiding by it.

ANALOGY 2:
You feel you’re getting ripped off at work. Would you be a pussy if you renegotiated your wage/salary several years (or months) after you joined the company?

 
Comment by bone2pick
2007-12-18 09:58:36

[quote comment=”236140″]Randy will beat Fedor, if Fedor even accepts the fight that little chump. The day that fight is announced in another organization is the day Dana expiriances the biggest regret he has ever felt.[/quote]

Do you not understand that this is not a personal fight for Randy? Randy coming out of retirement was to help is old friend Dana to get rid of Tim (who is the most boring fighter ever) and bring back the HW division and make the most money he could by having the two top HW’s fight. Randy did this as a favour and now he is pissed that Dana asked him to come out of retirement only to find out that he will never fight Fedor. NEVER. Fedor has too much pride and Randy doesn’t care anymore. If it isn’t in UFC … it will never be.

 
Comment by AA>RANDY>FEDOR>Chicken Little
2007-12-18 11:55:59

AA Needs to grow his nuts back and start pounding people. He used to be THE MOST entertaining, brutal/careless striker in MMA and now, since the THROAT PUNCH from Andre the Giant, he’s a scared little Belarussian.

 
Comment by Pain
2007-12-21 13:39:12

just so u know.. Randy has competed in world reknown grappling matches. Abu Dhabi being one of them. Do u really think fedor can take him down? Silver medalist greco roman wrestler vs sambo russian champion… When this fight does happen i see it being different than we all think. Standup predominantly if its in a ring. Split decision by Randy.

 
Comment by Pain
2007-12-21 13:47:41

Also for anyone who talks trash on Randy they dont know him. He is a great person of integrity and character. Randy knows he only has one or two fights left and he has a dream fight with fedor. Why talk trash on a nice guy who is following a dream. He doesnt want t fight some no names he knows who he wants to fight and we should respect him for it. All this crap about randy bailing on the ufc because of money is crap. He just wants to fight fedor and see if hes the best. He even called Fedor the best. But if you dont actually fight i wouldnt expect u to understand.

 
Comment by The Truth
2007-12-28 13:02:07

[quote comment=”236166″]fedor is very overrated he would get delt a beating in the ufc by many guys. Remember the matt lindland fight. and the mark hunt fight. Dont get me wrong Fedor is a tough dude but Randy Would Beat Him.[/quote]

He WON both of those fights.

 
Comment by dima
2008-01-03 18:18:46

lol… fedor is unstopable . and as good as randy is fedor is not going down to a 45 year old RC. He trains constantly and even though age hasnt effected RC in the past i think it would against fedor.

 
Comment by Don Frye
2008-01-05 17:35:44

[quote comment=”235684″]I always felt that Arlovski could beat Couture, great combination of power, speed, and agility. Too bad his last two fights weren’t the most exciting for UFC management.[/quote]

You know NOTHING about MMA. Couture ALWAYS beats guys who can’t stop a takedown. Arlovski would be on his back in 1 minute and Randy would pound him out. Hey, I like Arlovski, but Randy would be a BAD matchup..

 
Comment by Don Frye
2008-01-05 17:37:41

[quote comment=”254839″]lol…

fedor is unstopable . and as good as randy is fedor is not going down to a 45 year old RC. He trains constantly and even though age hasnt effected RC in the past i think it would against fedor.[/quote]

Agree…Randy would LOSE to Fedor but I do believe it would go the distance…Fedor could get a submission though…Randy would take fedor down more often, but Fedor is SLICK…I could see Fedor possible getting an armbar, but most likely, fedor wins a close decision…

 
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