
“Watching UFC over the last 20 years, when fighters go to the ground, they have become so proficient in avoiding submissions so it becomes boring. Knockouts, not tapouts, is what we say.”
-Martial arts “legend” and geriatric superstar Chuck Norris tells Tulsa World that his World Combat League (WCL) is designed to promote the team concept and eliminate slow-paced fights.
December 14th, 2007
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Is he saying that its boring without submissions?
the w.c. league is the worst form of combat sports on t.v. i would watch reruns of hee-haw over this crap. chuck is just jealous.
he has a point!!
Submissions, submission defense, and ground fighting add a greater depth, strategy, and excitement to MMA. Best of luck to Chuck and his league; however, I doubt that I will tune in.
i love the ground game…if it’s fast passed and full of great technique….sanchez and diaz was an insanely exciting fight that was all over the ground….waiting around for knockouts can be boring as shit….case and point..liddell and jardine…they just walked around eachother for the whole 3 rounds landing some random shots…so the ground game can be very exciting…
That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.
OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.
[quote comment=”234253″]the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]
Koschecck isnt boring….. Sherk is boring!
[quote comment=”234253″]OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]
or heath hearing.
There’s no such thing as evolution, just animals Chuck Norris allows to live.
He’s also just trying to promote his brand, so i wouldn’t really worry about it. Plus who can argue with Norris. i had to stop watching WCL because Cecils Peoples as a ref would be very one-sided against white competitors. just didn’t seem fair to me. Sure he’s a great guy, just didn’t like what i saw from him.
Go away old man.
Mr. Norris is a little off the mark with these coments. Not only is the ground game an exciting compnent of MMA, but the UFC has not been around for 20 years. Mr. Norris what the hell are you watching? The first UFC event was in ‘93. That Mr. Norris, is 14 years.
Just go back to running around talking about Huckabee. You two nut-jobs were made for eachother.
[quote comment=”234244″]the w.c. league is the worst form of combat sports on t.v. i would watch reruns of hee-haw over this crap. chuck is just jealous.[/quote]
LOL, That is FUNNY. Damn, I am busting a gut right now.
lets listen to the man, he does have the perfect bow flex body . . . or whatever home workout system he pushes!
Grow up chuck.
When the boogeyman goes to sleep, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. careful what you say folks chuck could be watching.
he has a third fist under his chin.
[quote comment=”234304″]Grow up chuck.[/quote]
Don’t kill me.
When chuck norris visited the virgin islands, they became the islands.
I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.
Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.
Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY!
What a DOPE![quote comment=”234252″]That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.[/quote]
Yea that was a great fight!
Texas Ranger your a DOPE!
Only Chuck Norris could have watched the UFC for 20 years after its been around for less than 15.
[quote comment=”234253″]OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]
I seen it one time. I saw Danny Abbadi fight, and I think he actually won! I do remember one thing from that night. On Abaddi’s time was this Puerto Rican fighter, I can’t remember his last name, but it was like Hernandez or Rodriguez or something. But anyways, this kid may have been the best stand up fighter I have ever seen. He was hopping all over the place pulling off the sickest kicks (better than Cung Li, but then again, Cung applies his to MMA and I have only watched him fight in MMA), and ever prettier combinations, PLUS he had KO power. Someone like Matt Serra or American Top Team should really jump all over this senstion. I highly doubt that there is any money in the WCL, and mma is the hottest thing since Baywatch among the male 16-40 year old demographic. (I made the last statement up, but I wouldnt be surprised if it was true). If he can add a ground game, or at least some good take down defense, he would be very entertaining to watch in the UFC.
Chuck Norris doesn’t sleep….he waits.
different fighters have different techniques you b movie bitch
WCL…if I’m not mistaken I accidently watched this one time and liek the other poster couldn’t finish my viewing. Big yawner. I think I changed it when they brought out the girls.
Chuck Norris vs. Hong Man Choi (Hero’s rules)
Can’t wait
Chuck Norris doesnt read books….he stares at them till they give him the information he wants.
Chuck Norris lost his viginity before his father did. So id listen to him.
Chuck Norris wheres studded codnoms inside out.
He gets all the pleasure!!!!!
I agree with him
Send Norris to Iraq… he’ll take care of the mess!
Jesus turned water into wine, but then Chuck Norris turned that wine into beer.
When Walker Texas Ranger aired in France the French surrendered.
[quote comment=”234303″]lets listen to the man, he does have the perfect bow flex body . . . or whatever home workout system he pushes![/quote]
ha ha that funny i think it the total gym though
Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?
Honestly, I think chuck Norris is the single most boring person ever associated with Martial arts. Has he ever made a decent movie?..Chuck “The Porno star of Karate” Norris = Bum!
[quote comment=”234381″]Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?[/quote]
The only tools Chuck Norris needs are his fists and feet. And he doesn’t keep them in boxes, he keeps them in the skulls of his most recent victims.
[quote comment=”234310″]I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.
Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.
Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY![/quote]
hey, i saw maybe 2 episodes of the contender, but did you watch the finale with bika and codrington? jesus christ, it was 8 rounds of power shots. That lived beyond the hype, its on youtube. check it out.
[quote comment=”234381″]Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?[/quote]
Bisping!!!!
Chuck is the man, but the WCL is simply unwatchable. I give them credit for trying to create a high action combat sport, but the WCL smply misses its mark. Out of like six episodes there were like 2 good fights. I really tried to like it but I just can’t for some reason.
Awesome reply PW. I heard Steven Segal vs Norris just got added to the Dec 29th card. Did anybody else hear that news? I call Segal via gogoplata stoppage at 2:49 in round one.
[quote comment=”234412″]Awesome reply PW. I heard Steven Segal vs Norris just got added to the Dec 29th card. Did anybody else hear that news? I call Segal via gogoplata stoppage at 2:49 in round one.[/quote]
Segal would probably have his .45 so i call death via chest wound 3 seconds into the frist rnd
[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]
UMMMM NO HE DOESNT!!! What an idiot. He just doesnt know what to lok for when it comes to the ground game. If you can understand submissions and how the fighter is trying to pull them off it is very interesting to watch how each fighter transitions from one move to the other whether its offense or defense. DUMB ASS CHUCK is probably just sitting there syaing “break his arm or leg already” HES A MORON. I love KO’s but ya gotta love a bad ass triangle choke attempt as the guy is elbowing him in the head. GO BACK TO SIDEKICKS CHUCK!! Oh heres one fact for ya CHUCK…
Chuck doesnt suck he BLOWS!!!
too bad the UFC has only been around for 15 years n he says the “past” 20 like thers been more even though back 15 years ago a brazilian called royce whoooped everyones asses for not knowing that crap… what a dumbass….hes a badass…but a dumbass
Chuck Norris died ten years ago, but the Grim Reaper can’t get up the courage to tell him.
You know, I used to think Chuck was only a retard when it came to politics and religion, but now I realize that he’s a retard about pretty much everything.
When both people know what they’re doing on the ground, that’s when you get GOOD fights, as there will be constant transitions, reversals, and submission attempts. The ground game is only boring when you’ve got two mediocre guys on the ground, and they’re both lying there, not knowing how to defend from the position or mount any offense.
chuck norris once ate three 72 oz steaks in one hour
he spent the first 45 minutes having sex with the waitress
MMA without a ground game is like football without a running game. MMA without striking is grappling.
A mix of both is what makes MMA exciting.
I would prefer the following rule changes:
Eliminate “stand-ups” and “clinch breaks”. - If a fighter can control someone on the ground without passing or GNP, it should be the responsibility of the fighter on his back to improve his position.
Eliminate elbows. I liked the Pride rules minus knee/kick to downed opponent. Alot fewer fights stopped on cuts.
[quote comment=”234402″][quote comment=”234310″]I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.
Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.
Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY![/quote]
hey, i saw maybe 2 episodes of the contender, but did you watch the finale with bika and codrington? jesus christ, it was 8 rounds of power shots. That lived beyond the hype, its on youtube. check it out.[/quote]
Sorry, I tried to sit through it. The editing was what really killed it for me. Camera replaying shots and slowing them down to make them look more intense. I felt like I had watched all of the Rocky sequels too many times. I got bored. I will have to look it up.
That is one thing I have appreciated about the TUF reality series. Even though it has sucked off and on at least there is no sharp editing to make a boring fight look better. If the fight sucks, it sucks.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
[quote comment=”234252″]That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.[/quote]
He can not have that much love and respect for the Machados if he would go out and publicly diss the ground game… The Machados need to put him to sleep the next time he shows up to class…
Once, While having sex in a tractor-trailer, part of Chuck Norris’ sperm escaped and got into the engine. We now know this truck as Optimus Prime
[quote post=”4222″]Go away old man. [/quote]
I second that.
[quote post=”4222″]Jesus turned water into wine, but then Chuck Norris turned that wine into beer. [/quote]
I can not believe you are comparing a wannabe fighter/actor to Jesus. TO JESUS. And his movies sucked.
Isnt Chuck Norris just trained in Karate? Doesn’t Jiu Jitsu own Karate? He sounds jealous to me.
[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]
He does, somewhat. I am pretty sure that Chuck Norris knows more about martial arts than anyone on this blog does.
Surprising statement from someone so well versed in the martial arts. Submissions attempts and defense can look boring to the casual fan. But when you see those attempts work, it catches your attention, thus you watch more MMA, thus learning more about the sport and you become able to understand the intricacies of attempt and defense. You’re off the mark, Chuck.
Nice Picture…
UFC vs WCL 2008
[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]
you mean he has a pointy head
Headshots aren’t even allowed in the WCL how is that entertaing cmon Chuck step it up a notch pal
chuck norris does not tea bag, he potato sacks
I still think evey aspect of mma is exciting gut he is right about the fighters being so good now they run into a stale mate especially when its Black belt bjj vs black belt bjj
[quote comment=”235004″]UFC vs WCL 2008[/quote]
This is the best idea ever. Let Chuck put his money were his mouth is. Hell Do not even use the top guys. Use the b level guys, like Chris Leban, Nate Diaz, Kendall Grove, and Ed Herman. I bet they would cut through the WCL guys with out issue. HEll Lets use the WEC guys first….Doug MArshal vs their LH…I would love to see that….
Chuck norris does not no what he is talkin about. he farts out condoms on his spare time while workin out on the total gym.
its mma right? so that mean ground game too. chuck needs to shut up and go back to hocking total gyms, and doing walker….or maybe norris versus shamrock HA
hose aren’t credits that roll after Walker Texas Ranger. It is actually a list of fatalities that occurred during the making of the episode.
all im saying is how can the guy who does walker tx ranger say anythings boring
I’m addicted to MMA & combat sports and watch everything I can, but Chuck’s WCL is so bad that I absolutely can not watch it. I’ve tried to get into it, but it really is painfully boaring. It’s the Disney version of MMA. It sucks big time!
We need an injection of PRIDE!!!
i.e…kicks to the head of a downed opponent, people would be less content to lie on the ground then, and it makes the North South position “actually dangerous, as opposed to now where guys get that position, then just transition to side control….Boring
I would submit Chuck Norris easily. And I wouldn’t let go until I saw tears in his eyes. Then I’d think about it. And then snap the limb off anyway. Bitchass.
[quote comment=”234260″][quote comment=”234253″]the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]
Koschecck isnt boring….. Sherk is boring![/quote]
They are both boring - albiet at different degrees. If Sherk added some ground and pound he would be a lot more exciting. He’s got energy at least, and keeps moving forward - something Koscheck doesn’t do much of. Still boring though, comparitively to most others with a good agressive ground game.
The WCL has really had some brutal KO’s this year. There are some really quick guys (and gals!) that are just devestating. Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=val1ss&p=d
water boils faster when chuck norris watches it