“Watching UFC over the last 20 years, when fighters go to the ground, they have become so proficient in avoiding submissions so it becomes boring. Knockouts, not tapouts, is what we say.”

-Martial arts “legend” and geriatric superstar Chuck Norris tells Tulsa World that his World Combat League (WCL) is designed to promote the team concept and eliminate slow-paced fights.

December 14th, 2007    

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Comment by Uncle Tom
2007-12-14 13:20:20

Is he saying that its boring without submissions?

 
Comment by b.w
2007-12-14 13:22:07

the w.c. league is the worst form of combat sports on t.v. i would watch reruns of hee-haw over this crap. chuck is just jealous.

 
Comment by kickinthehead
2007-12-14 13:24:56

he has a point!!

 
Comment by Khemtawe
2007-12-14 13:25:27

Submissions, submission defense, and ground fighting add a greater depth, strategy, and excitement to MMA. Best of luck to Chuck and his league; however, I doubt that I will tune in.

 
Comment by craig
2007-12-14 13:26:59

i love the ground game…if it’s fast passed and full of great technique….sanchez and diaz was an insanely exciting fight that was all over the ground….waiting around for knockouts can be boring as shit….case and point..liddell and jardine…they just walked around eachother for the whole 3 rounds landing some random shots…so the ground game can be very exciting…

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-14 13:28:39

That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.

 
Comment by getrawbc
2007-12-14 13:29:42

OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.

 
Comment by DJ Pullout
2007-12-14 13:43:53

[quote comment=”234253″]the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]

Koschecck isnt boring….. Sherk is boring!

 
Comment by BustYoFace
2007-12-14 13:45:09

[quote comment=”234253″]OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]

or heath hearing.

 
Comment by Don Quihote
2007-12-14 13:45:10

There’s no such thing as evolution, just animals Chuck Norris allows to live.

 
Comment by MeatSauce
2007-12-14 13:49:51

He’s also just trying to promote his brand, so i wouldn’t really worry about it. Plus who can argue with Norris. i had to stop watching WCL because Cecils Peoples as a ref would be very one-sided against white competitors. just didn’t seem fair to me. Sure he’s a great guy, just didn’t like what i saw from him.

 
Comment by Landowner
2007-12-14 13:51:38

Go away old man.

 
Comment by Jeff
2007-12-14 14:03:38

Mr. Norris is a little off the mark with these coments. Not only is the ground game an exciting compnent of MMA, but the UFC has not been around for 20 years. Mr. Norris what the hell are you watching? The first UFC event was in ‘93. That Mr. Norris, is 14 years.

Just go back to running around talking about Huckabee. You two nut-jobs were made for eachother.

 
Comment by grembone
2007-12-14 14:17:44

[quote comment=”234244″]the w.c. league is the worst form of combat sports on t.v. i would watch reruns of hee-haw over this crap. chuck is just jealous.[/quote]

LOL, That is FUNNY. Damn, I am busting a gut right now.

 
Comment by COR
2007-12-14 14:24:20

lets listen to the man, he does have the perfect bow flex body . . . or whatever home workout system he pushes!

 
Comment by NewGuyTheGunMan
2007-12-14 14:25:09

Grow up chuck.

 
Comment by RoB
2007-12-14 14:25:38

When the boogeyman goes to sleep, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris. careful what you say folks chuck could be watching.

 
Comment by Anonymousf*ck
2007-12-14 14:25:59

he has a third fist under his chin.

 
Comment by NewGuyTheGunMan
2007-12-14 14:26:08

[quote comment=”234304″]Grow up chuck.[/quote]
Don’t kill me.

 
Comment by NewGuyTheGunMan
2007-12-14 14:27:06

When chuck norris visited the virgin islands, they became the islands.

 
Comment by grembone
2007-12-14 14:27:19

I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.

Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.

Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY!

 
Comment by mac daddy
2007-12-14 14:31:49

What a DOPE![quote comment=”234252″]That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.[/quote]

Yea that was a great fight!
Texas Ranger your a DOPE!

 
Comment by 12121212
2007-12-14 14:45:41

Only Chuck Norris could have watched the UFC for 20 years after its been around for less than 15.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-12-14 14:49:25

[quote comment=”234253″]OMG!!!!! I gave the WCL a chance and watched it twice. Please, I was so bored I never finished watching it either time. Chuck talks about knockouts, but there’s no elbows, no clinching, no Knees!! garbage. the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]

I seen it one time. I saw Danny Abbadi fight, and I think he actually won! I do remember one thing from that night. On Abaddi’s time was this Puerto Rican fighter, I can’t remember his last name, but it was like Hernandez or Rodriguez or something. But anyways, this kid may have been the best stand up fighter I have ever seen. He was hopping all over the place pulling off the sickest kicks (better than Cung Li, but then again, Cung applies his to MMA and I have only watched him fight in MMA), and ever prettier combinations, PLUS he had KO power. Someone like Matt Serra or American Top Team should really jump all over this senstion. I highly doubt that there is any money in the WCL, and mma is the hottest thing since Baywatch among the male 16-40 year old demographic. (I made the last statement up, but I wouldnt be surprised if it was true). If he can add a ground game, or at least some good take down defense, he would be very entertaining to watch in the UFC.

 
Comment by GodDamnMike
2007-12-14 14:50:05

Chuck Norris doesn’t sleep….he waits.

 
Comment by dtrain
2007-12-14 14:51:17

different fighters have different techniques you b movie bitch

 
Comment by Drew
2007-12-14 14:56:16

WCL…if I’m not mistaken I accidently watched this one time and liek the other poster couldn’t finish my viewing. Big yawner. I think I changed it when they brought out the girls.

 
Comment by JonnyBoy
2007-12-14 15:24:25

Chuck Norris vs. Hong Man Choi (Hero’s rules)

Can’t wait ;)

 
Comment by Scott
2007-12-14 15:32:59

Chuck Norris doesnt read books….he stares at them till they give him the information he wants.

 
Comment by bushswinger
2007-12-14 15:37:45

Chuck Norris lost his viginity before his father did. So id listen to him.

 
Comment by Scott
2007-12-14 15:38:57

Chuck Norris wheres studded codnoms inside out.
He gets all the pleasure!!!!!

 
Comment by jsoph
2007-12-14 15:44:55

I agree with him

 
Comment by JonnyBoy
2007-12-14 15:50:06

Send Norris to Iraq… he’ll take care of the mess!

 
Comment by pw
2007-12-14 15:50:22

Jesus turned water into wine, but then Chuck Norris turned that wine into beer.

 
Comment by pw
2007-12-14 15:52:38

When Walker Texas Ranger aired in France the French surrendered.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-12-14 15:53:11

[quote comment=”234303″]lets listen to the man, he does have the perfect bow flex body . . . or whatever home workout system he pushes![/quote]
ha ha that funny i think it the total gym though

 
Comment by Ben Dover
2007-12-14 16:00:17

Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?

 
Comment by john
2007-12-14 16:03:46

Honestly, I think chuck Norris is the single most boring person ever associated with Martial arts. Has he ever made a decent movie?..Chuck “The Porno star of Karate” Norris = Bum!

 
Comment by pw
2007-12-14 16:05:09

[quote comment=”234381″]Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?[/quote]
The only tools Chuck Norris needs are his fists and feet. And he doesn’t keep them in boxes, he keeps them in the skulls of his most recent victims.

 
Comment by mike
2007-12-14 16:17:58

[quote comment=”234310″]I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.

Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.

Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY![/quote]

hey, i saw maybe 2 episodes of the contender, but did you watch the finale with bika and codrington? jesus christ, it was 8 rounds of power shots. That lived beyond the hype, its on youtube. check it out.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-12-14 16:18:23

[quote comment=”234381″]Who’s the bigger Tool Box. Chuck Norris or Michael Bisping?[/quote]
Bisping!!!!

 
Comment by DonnyG
2007-12-14 16:25:31

Chuck is the man, but the WCL is simply unwatchable. I give them credit for trying to create a high action combat sport, but the WCL smply misses its mark. Out of like six episodes there were like 2 good fights. I really tried to like it but I just can’t for some reason.

 
Comment by Ben Dover
2007-12-14 16:26:36

Awesome reply PW. I heard Steven Segal vs Norris just got added to the Dec 29th card. Did anybody else hear that news? I call Segal via gogoplata stoppage at 2:49 in round one.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-12-14 16:31:52

[quote comment=”234412″]Awesome reply PW. I heard Steven Segal vs Norris just got added to the Dec 29th card. Did anybody else hear that news? I call Segal via gogoplata stoppage at 2:49 in round one.[/quote]
Segal would probably have his .45 so i call death via chest wound 3 seconds into the frist rnd

 
Comment by STUNNALATOR
2007-12-14 16:39:22

[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]

UMMMM NO HE DOESNT!!! What an idiot. He just doesnt know what to lok for when it comes to the ground game. If you can understand submissions and how the fighter is trying to pull them off it is very interesting to watch how each fighter transitions from one move to the other whether its offense or defense. DUMB ASS CHUCK is probably just sitting there syaing “break his arm or leg already” HES A MORON. I love KO’s but ya gotta love a bad ass triangle choke attempt as the guy is elbowing him in the head. GO BACK TO SIDEKICKS CHUCK!! Oh heres one fact for ya CHUCK…
Chuck doesnt suck he BLOWS!!!

 
Comment by Jose H
2007-12-14 16:52:26

too bad the UFC has only been around for 15 years n he says the “past” 20 like thers been more even though back 15 years ago a brazilian called royce whoooped everyones asses for not knowing that crap… what a dumbass….hes a badass…but a dumbass

 
Comment by Andy
2007-12-14 17:01:29

Chuck Norris died ten years ago, but the Grim Reaper can’t get up the courage to tell him.

 
Comment by Saint Gasoline
2007-12-14 17:35:47

You know, I used to think Chuck was only a retard when it came to politics and religion, but now I realize that he’s a retard about pretty much everything.

When both people know what they’re doing on the ground, that’s when you get GOOD fights, as there will be constant transitions, reversals, and submission attempts. The ground game is only boring when you’ve got two mediocre guys on the ground, and they’re both lying there, not knowing how to defend from the position or mount any offense.

 
Comment by NDkarl
2007-12-14 18:01:25

chuck norris once ate three 72 oz steaks in one hour
he spent the first 45 minutes having sex with the waitress

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-12-14 18:41:26

MMA without a ground game is like football without a running game. MMA without striking is grappling.

A mix of both is what makes MMA exciting.

I would prefer the following rule changes:
Eliminate “stand-ups” and “clinch breaks”. - If a fighter can control someone on the ground without passing or GNP, it should be the responsibility of the fighter on his back to improve his position.

Eliminate elbows. I liked the Pride rules minus knee/kick to downed opponent. Alot fewer fights stopped on cuts.

 
Comment by grembone
2007-12-14 19:03:05

[quote comment=”234402″][quote comment=”234310″]I personally love the ground game. I think the refs should be more active in a possible stall or stale mate position, but if someone is working a good game on the ground that is awesome.

Dana should have a shock device in the refs pocket and when the fight gets too boring he zaps him to stand the fighters up. That would be cool.

Chuck should just show reruns of Karate Kid or even better Contender where all the fights are hyped up and edited to make them look more exciting than they really are. He has always had more love for Hollywood than martial arts anyway…Isn’t that right “Walker Texas Ranger” Fricken GAY![/quote]

hey, i saw maybe 2 episodes of the contender, but did you watch the finale with bika and codrington? jesus christ, it was 8 rounds of power shots. That lived beyond the hype, its on youtube. check it out.[/quote]

Sorry, I tried to sit through it. The editing was what really killed it for me. Camera replaying shots and slowing them down to make them look more intense. I felt like I had watched all of the Rocky sequels too many times. I got bored. I will have to look it up.

That is one thing I have appreciated about the TUF reality series. Even though it has sucked off and on at least there is no sharp editing to make a boring fight look better. If the fight sucks, it sucks.

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-12-14 20:06:31

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-12-14 20:07:36

When Chuck Norris does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-14 21:45:03

[quote comment=”234252″]That funny coming from Norris..he is a purple belt in BJJ under the Machado’s..even though he likes to walk around with his Blk belt on..the guy should have more respect for good ground work..by these MMA fighters..ex: Diego vs Nick Diaz..was a BJJ clinic..no one was submitted..but there were great submission attempts/defense. With the respect he has for the Machado’s I wouldn’t expect a statement like that from him.[/quote]

He can not have that much love and respect for the Machados if he would go out and publicly diss the ground game… The Machados need to put him to sleep the next time he shows up to class…

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-14 22:15:04

Once, While having sex in a tractor-trailer, part of Chuck Norris’ sperm escaped and got into the engine. We now know this truck as Optimus Prime

 
Comment by JRV
2007-12-14 22:54:58

[quote post=”4222″]Go away old man. [/quote]
I second that.

 
Comment by JRV
2007-12-14 22:56:16

[quote post=”4222″]Jesus turned water into wine, but then Chuck Norris turned that wine into beer. [/quote]

I can not believe you are comparing a wannabe fighter/actor to Jesus. TO JESUS. And his movies sucked.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-12-15 01:50:09

Isnt Chuck Norris just trained in Karate? Doesn’t Jiu Jitsu own Karate? He sounds jealous to me.

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-12-15 02:23:27

[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]

He does, somewhat. I am pretty sure that Chuck Norris knows more about martial arts than anyone on this blog does.

 
Comment by James Smith
2007-12-15 07:33:22

Surprising statement from someone so well versed in the martial arts. Submissions attempts and defense can look boring to the casual fan. But when you see those attempts work, it catches your attention, thus you watch more MMA, thus learning more about the sport and you become able to understand the intricacies of attempt and defense. You’re off the mark, Chuck.

 
Comment by robin
2007-12-15 08:23:13

Nice Picture…

 
Comment by gorelord
2007-12-15 08:39:45

UFC vs WCL 2008

 
Comment by Sirchokemout
2007-12-15 09:56:19

[quote comment=”234248″]he has a point!![/quote]

you mean he has a pointy head

 
Comment by Hustla
2007-12-15 11:30:46

Headshots aren’t even allowed in the WCL how is that entertaing cmon Chuck step it up a notch pal

 
Comment by lee
2007-12-15 13:18:11

chuck norris does not tea bag, he potato sacks

 
Comment by dia mette
2007-12-15 14:50:34

I still think evey aspect of mma is exciting gut he is right about the fighters being so good now they run into a stale mate especially when its Black belt bjj vs black belt bjj

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-12-15 14:57:59

[quote comment=”235004″]UFC vs WCL 2008[/quote]
This is the best idea ever. Let Chuck put his money were his mouth is. Hell Do not even use the top guys. Use the b level guys, like Chris Leban, Nate Diaz, Kendall Grove, and Ed Herman. I bet they would cut through the WCL guys with out issue. HEll Lets use the WEC guys first….Doug MArshal vs their LH…I would love to see that….

 
Comment by whammy
2007-12-15 16:48:27

Chuck norris does not no what he is talkin about. he farts out condoms on his spare time while workin out on the total gym.

 
Comment by Greg
2007-12-15 18:09:48

its mma right? so that mean ground game too. chuck needs to shut up and go back to hocking total gyms, and doing walker….or maybe norris versus shamrock HA

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-12-16 02:45:48

hose aren’t credits that roll after Walker Texas Ranger. It is actually a list of fatalities that occurred during the making of the episode.

 
Comment by Greg
2007-12-16 10:38:31

all im saying is how can the guy who does walker tx ranger say anythings boring

 
Comment by 2BAD4U
2007-12-17 01:11:57

I’m addicted to MMA & combat sports and watch everything I can, but Chuck’s WCL is so bad that I absolutely can not watch it. I’ve tried to get into it, but it really is painfully boaring. It’s the Disney version of MMA. It sucks big time!

 
Comment by ToeLock
2007-12-17 05:51:27

We need an injection of PRIDE!!!

i.e…kicks to the head of a downed opponent, people would be less content to lie on the ground then, and it makes the North South position “actually dangerous, as opposed to now where guys get that position, then just transition to side control….Boring

 
Comment by Googan
2007-12-18 06:34:53

I would submit Chuck Norris easily. And I wouldn’t let go until I saw tears in his eyes. Then I’d think about it. And then snap the limb off anyway. Bitchass.

 
Comment by gr_guitar
2007-12-18 16:39:10

[quote comment=”234260″][quote comment=”234253″]the ground is only boring when Koscheck is on top of someone.[/quote]

Koschecck isnt boring….. Sherk is boring![/quote]

They are both boring - albiet at different degrees. If Sherk added some ground and pound he would be a lot more exciting. He’s got energy at least, and keeps moving forward - something Koscheck doesn’t do much of. Still boring though, comparitively to most others with a good agressive ground game.

 
Comment by shadydave
2008-05-15 18:09:52

The WCL has really had some brutal KO’s this year. There are some really quick guys (and gals!) that are just devestating. Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=val1ss&p=d

Comment by chessguy4you
2008-09-08 12:49:25

water boils faster when chuck norris watches it

 
 
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