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		<title>By: clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read how much Clay Guida made and it made me sick . When I saw this match I found it more entertaining than a rampage Chuck Liddel fight . The fact the Chuck Liddel makes like 500,000 is not fair. Fighters like Clay make the sport exciting.How come boring boxers make million . If I want two losers figting among themselves I can see it for free in the streets .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read how much Clay Guida made and it made me sick . When I saw this match I found it more entertaining than a rampage Chuck Liddel fight . The fact the Chuck Liddel makes like 500,000 is not fair. Fighters like Clay make the sport exciting.How come boring boxers make million . If I want two losers figting among themselves I can see it for free in the streets .</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;231624&quot;]Wow... that is a harsh payday, for any of those fighters that lost it makes it tough for them to want to comeback. I&#039;m sure none of those fighters received percentages. Sponsership probably not all that significant. Man, Clay is definitely worth more than that... he&#039;s got a lot of fans.[/quote]
 

thats true but did you take a look at his record...not the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="231624"]Wow&#8230; that is a harsh payday, for any of those fighters that lost it makes it tough for them to want to comeback. I&#8217;m sure none of those fighters received percentages. Sponsership probably not all that significant. Man, Clay is definitely worth more than that&#8230; he&#8217;s got a lot of fans.[/quote]</p>
<p>thats true but did you take a look at his record&#8230;not the best</p>
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		<title>By: UFC The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) bonuses revealed at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>UFC The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) bonuses revealed at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets &#8212; MMAmania.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For all TUF 6 Finale base salaries click here. For results coverage click here and here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For all TUF 6 Finale base salaries click here. For results coverage click here and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Zuffa&#8217;s accomplishments highlight their problems</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/12/11/ufc-the-ultimate-fighter-tuf-6-finale-fighter-paydays-and-salaries/comment-page-2/#comment-236352</link>
		<dc:creator>Fightlinker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Zuffa&#8217;s accomplishments highlight their problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not saying bonuses as a concept are a bad idea. But think about this: The total pay before bonuses for all fighters at the Ultimate Fighter 6 finale was $239,000. The amount of bonuses handed out on top of that: $120,000. That&#8217;s half the entire payroll over again in bonus money. How can the UFC justify paying their fighters so little when they&#8217;re throwing extra cash around like that? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not saying bonuses as a concept are a bad idea. But think about this: The total pay before bonuses for all fighters at the Ultimate Fighter 6 finale was $239,000. The amount of bonuses handed out on top of that: $120,000. That&#8217;s half the entire payroll over again in bonus money. How can the UFC justify paying their fighters so little when they&#8217;re throwing extra cash around like that? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay is a good fighter with a lot of heart</description>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the questions about Clay with the carpenters. Clay is a union carpenter with the Chicago Carpenters Union. This was printed on his shorts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the questions about Clay with the carpenters. Clay is a union carpenter with the Chicago Carpenters Union. This was printed on his shorts</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;232395&quot;][quote comment=&quot;232231&quot;]I still cannot understand how a TUFer gets $8000 grand to show and Jonathan Goulet only gets $7000. At least I know he&#039;s getting taxed less because he&#039;s Canadian.

And as far as Guida goes. I do think he deserves more than $11,000 a fight. But let&#039;s not think he&#039;s living the street because of it. He&#039;s been awarded at least 2 fight of the night bonuses already this year. That&#039;s over six figures in UFC payroll to him. Not including sponsorships. (Ya because we all know Al&#039;s Carpentry or whatever is handing out the big bucks!) What was the name of that Carpentry place on his shorts anyways? Clay is a union carpenter with the Chicago Carpenters Union

-NiX[/quote]
Why wouldn&#039;t the TUF guys get paid more?  They are the bigger draw because of the time they spent on the show.  It&#039;s not like they got more than Karo or Fitch or another established WW contender.  Goulet got a gift because they matched him up against one of the worst fighters on the show.  If he was matched up with Matt Arroyo, he would have received $7K, a nice octagon to go to sleep in, and some smelling salts.[/quote]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="232395"][quote comment="232231"]I still cannot understand how a TUFer gets $8000 grand to show and Jonathan Goulet only gets $7000. At least I know he&#8217;s getting taxed less because he&#8217;s Canadian.</p>
<p>And as far as Guida goes. I do think he deserves more than $11,000 a fight. But let&#8217;s not think he&#8217;s living the street because of it. He&#8217;s been awarded at least 2 fight of the night bonuses already this year. That&#8217;s over six figures in UFC payroll to him. Not including sponsorships. (Ya because we all know Al&#8217;s Carpentry or whatever is handing out the big bucks!) What was the name of that Carpentry place on his shorts anyways? Clay is a union carpenter with the Chicago Carpenters Union</p>
<p>-NiX[/quote]<br />
Why wouldn&#8217;t the TUF guys get paid more?  They are the bigger draw because of the time they spent on the show.  It&#8217;s not like they got more than Karo or Fitch or another established WW contender.  Goulet got a gift because they matched him up against one of the worst fighters on the show.  If he was matched up with Matt Arroyo, he would have received $7K, a nice octagon to go to sleep in, and some smelling salts.[/quote]</p>
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		<title>By: Sula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger said on mmaweekly radio that they did get fight of the night, so I&#039;m guessing Clay took home at least 30k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger said on mmaweekly radio that they did get fight of the night, so I&#8217;m guessing Clay took home at least 30k.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;232881&quot;][quote comment=&quot;232194&quot;]Zuffa isn&#039;t in this business to distribute every dollar they make from this event to all of the fighters involved.  It&#039;s called risk reward.  They put up a lot of money to showcase each of these events - if it loses money they&#039;re left holding the bag, not the fighters.  UFC was losing money for years - they&#039;ve only been profitable since 2005.

This TUF 6 Finale had minimal live gate revenues and no PPV buys.  You can&#039;t give these fighters $100K each, even though they deserve it.  You start paying everyone Chuck Liddell money, and the UFC folds.  And Chuck gets paid $500K per fight because he guarantees you at the very least 600-700K PPV buys.  The same can&#039;t be said about Clay Guida, unfortunately.[/quote]

I agree with not getting chucks money but guida 11k?... he&#039;s a draw and a name and makes exciting fights, even though he&#039;s lost recently... if he got 25k to show, I can see that holding him between fights.. like you said... someone like him deserves it.[/quote]

Dude, I hate to break it to you, but nobody knows who Clay Guida is except for hardcore fans like us. He&#039;s not a draw. You&#039;re only a draw if you attract casual fans. They already know that the hardcore fans will watch. That&#039;s money already in the bank. He&#039;s paid just about what he deserves. If he finished Roger, he would&#039;ve taken home $30K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="232881"][quote comment="232194"]Zuffa isn&#8217;t in this business to distribute every dollar they make from this event to all of the fighters involved.  It&#8217;s called risk reward.  They put up a lot of money to showcase each of these events &#8211; if it loses money they&#8217;re left holding the bag, not the fighters.  UFC was losing money for years &#8211; they&#8217;ve only been profitable since 2005.</p>
<p>This TUF 6 Finale had minimal live gate revenues and no PPV buys.  You can&#8217;t give these fighters $100K each, even though they deserve it.  You start paying everyone Chuck Liddell money, and the UFC folds.  And Chuck gets paid $500K per fight because he guarantees you at the very least 600-700K PPV buys.  The same can&#8217;t be said about Clay Guida, unfortunately.[/quote]</p>
<p>I agree with not getting chucks money but guida 11k?&#8230; he&#8217;s a draw and a name and makes exciting fights, even though he&#8217;s lost recently&#8230; if he got 25k to show, I can see that holding him between fights.. like you said&#8230; someone like him deserves it.[/quote]</p>
<p>Dude, I hate to break it to you, but nobody knows who Clay Guida is except for hardcore fans like us. He&#8217;s not a draw. You&#8217;re only a draw if you attract casual fans. They already know that the hardcore fans will watch. That&#8217;s money already in the bank. He&#8217;s paid just about what he deserves. If he finished Roger, he would&#8217;ve taken home $30K.</p>
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;232194&quot;]Zuffa isn&#039;t in this business to distribute every dollar they make from this event to all of the fighters involved.  It&#039;s called risk reward.  They put up a lot of money to showcase each of these events - if it loses money they&#039;re left holding the bag, not the fighters.  UFC was losing money for years - they&#039;ve only been profitable since 2005.

This TUF 6 Finale had minimal live gate revenues and no PPV buys.  You can&#039;t give these fighters $100K each, even though they deserve it.  You start paying everyone Chuck Liddell money, and the UFC folds.  And Chuck gets paid $500K per fight because he guarantees you at the very least 600-700K PPV buys.  The same can&#039;t be said about Clay Guida, unfortunately.[/quote]

I agree with not getting chucks money but guida 11k?... he&#039;s a draw and a name and makes exciting fights, even though he&#039;s lost recently... if he got 25k to show, I can see that holding him between fights.. like you said... someone like him deserves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="232194"]Zuffa isn&#8217;t in this business to distribute every dollar they make from this event to all of the fighters involved.  It&#8217;s called risk reward.  They put up a lot of money to showcase each of these events &#8211; if it loses money they&#8217;re left holding the bag, not the fighters.  UFC was losing money for years &#8211; they&#8217;ve only been profitable since 2005.</p>
<p>This TUF 6 Finale had minimal live gate revenues and no PPV buys.  You can&#8217;t give these fighters $100K each, even though they deserve it.  You start paying everyone Chuck Liddell money, and the UFC folds.  And Chuck gets paid $500K per fight because he guarantees you at the very least 600-700K PPV buys.  The same can&#8217;t be said about Clay Guida, unfortunately.[/quote]</p>
<p>I agree with not getting chucks money but guida 11k?&#8230; he&#8217;s a draw and a name and makes exciting fights, even though he&#8217;s lost recently&#8230; if he got 25k to show, I can see that holding him between fights.. like you said&#8230; someone like him deserves it.</p>
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