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“I think that both of us are very strong and it would be hard to find weaknesses in either of our games. The fight is going to come down to who is better prepared on the day of the fight. There is nothing negative that I can say about BJ, he is one of the best fighters out there…. He trains very hard for his fights and he fights at 155 lbs. so I don’t think that cardio is going to be a factor for him. Obviously BJ will have to be in shape to make the weight.”

Lightweight Joe Stevenson talks about his upcoming fight with BJ Penn at UFC 80: “Rapid Fire” on January 19, 2008, in Newcastle, England, for the interim 155-pound championship. That tag could soon change to “vacant” now that credible reports indicate that Sean Sherk will be stripped of the strap because of a positive test for illegal steroids. Stay tuned.

December 10th, 2007    

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Comment by ViolentMike
2007-12-10 11:18:45

Joe Daddy can’t find a weakness in his own game??? BJ’s I can understand, but not Stevenson. Stevenson has weaknesses in his standup game for sure. Plus he always has a reach advantage which only adds to his weakness in his standup game. Stevenson is pretty good on the ground, but is he a BJJ black belt? If I was Joe I would be VERY concerned with my BJJ defense, HE’S FIGHTING BJ PENN!!!!!

 
Comment by pw
2007-12-10 11:19:51

This one should be awesome. I don’t think 5 rounds will be enough for these two.

 
Comment by Andy
2007-12-10 11:21:53

Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-10 11:31:08

[quote comment=”230582″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.[/quote]

BJ is named the prodigy..being the first non brazilian to win in the mundials..after just getting his BLk belt..he didn’t have a piont scored on him during the whole tourney..which is like winning an olyimpic gold medal in boxing and not once getting punched in the face.

I think it’s safe to say that BJ has the advantege on the ground.

 
Comment by EazyEismydad
2007-12-10 11:40:10

I want Stevenson to win bad because BJ said he won’t fight Sherk. It’d be messed up not to give him a title shot after this fight.

 
Comment by dpb
2007-12-10 11:49:29

Mr. Joe Guillotine is in trouble. He doesnt have much of a chance against BJ. Bj Penn’s second title defense after he beats a non-juiced sherk will be versus the winner of the Roger Huerta/Kenny Florian fight

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-10 12:01:22

[quote comment=”230597″]I want Stevenson to win bad because BJ said he won’t fight Sherk. It’d be messed up not to give him a title shot after this fight.[/quote]

If Sherk is stripped..and then earns a title shot against the winner of Bj/Joe..then he’ll fight him. He said he wouldn’t fight Sherk if he was found guilty but still kept the lw belt..and to have a undisputed lw champ match..would be a no go.

 
Comment by PooCocktail
2007-12-10 12:04:27

If a chubby BJ Penn could battle with a Hughes and GSP, couldn’t he easily handle a Stevenson?

Stevenson seems one dimensional.

Penn has this bag of tricks that catches people off guard. How does someone train for fighting with BJ? I don’t think anyone else has his skill set.

Now that BJ is actually training like a mature fighter, his only weakness (conditioning) shouldn’t be a factor anymore.

 
Comment by Andy
2007-12-10 12:11:04

I get annoyed with all the Penn worship on this site, but I’ll be honest that I don’t know as much about BJ as I should. I’ve only seen two of his fights. I’m extremely impressed that he has fought in every weight class except heavyweight. I just watched BJ’s fight against Gomi. Pretty impressive. On paper BJ has to easily be the most talented lightweight in the UFC. But talent doesn’t always produce wins. I still want to see Joe Daddy win, but I don’t think he stands much of a chance. He does have a chance, albeit, a small one.

 
Comment by c-war
2007-12-10 12:22:38

Penn should win this. I like Stevenson but he will never be as good as an awesome BJ (ha ha)

 
Comment by Scott
2007-12-10 12:29:03

OK when was the last time BJ looked good in a fight. He beat Pulver and he is the #1 contender..Am I the only one who laughs at this..I dunno I really dont like BJ I will give him his props because he has mad skill but I will be cheering for the underdog here. WAR STEVENSON!!!

 
Comment by b.w
2007-12-10 12:30:00

i think if b.j wouldn’t have left the ufc the first time he fought hughes and beat him in 1 rnd, hughes wouldn’t be considered the greatest ww of all time. i think hughes got lucky in the 2nd fight when b.j. injured himself. i think gsp is the only fighter that can beat b.j from 170 down.

 
Comment by MMATattoos
2007-12-10 12:33:40

BJ by TKO 3rd round

 
Comment by Fightinground'theworld
2007-12-10 12:56:41

I think BJ should destroy Stevenson, unless it goes to the later rounds then it’s anybodies win. BJ is unmatched in ground and submission skills, but in big fights he has choked. Blame his conditioning, but he needs to bring it early to Stevenson.

 
Comment by trav-dog
2007-12-10 13:11:49

bj’s great-daddy is pretty good himself..tough to choose. i just hope for a great action packed fight that last several rounds with a finish of some sort. don’t care who wins.

 
Comment by nathan
2007-12-10 13:17:45

Bj should win pretty easily if the same guy who dominated hughes for the first two rounds and beat gsp in the first round shows up. Hughes and gsp are monsters at 170 and penn gave them a run for there money. I feel sorry for stevenson but I also felt serra had next to no chance against gsp and look what happened. Stevenson to me has a much better chance to win than serra had which I guess is why they called it the biggest upset in mma history. If Stevenson beats penn it would be a huge upset to me, not quite as big as serra’s but still huge. This is mma, nothing is for sure but to me penn is a far more skilled fighter than stevenson and will be in good shape for fight as he usually is at 155.

 
Comment by Shaun
2007-12-10 13:18:26

Should be a great fight. I just hope BJ comes in shape, and doesn’t leave people questioning his heart again.

 
Comment by mattchupichu
2007-12-10 13:19:21

[quote comment=”230629″]i think if b.j wouldn’t have left the ufc the first time he fought hughes and beat him in 1 rnd, hughes wouldn’t be considered the greatest ww of all time. i think hughes got lucky in the 2nd fight when b.j. injured himself. i think gsp is the only fighter that can beat b.j from 170 down.[/quote]
You’re preachin to the choir, my friend.

 
Comment by Joe
2007-12-10 13:47:54

[quote comment=”230621″]I get annoyed with all the Penn worship on this site, but I’ll be honest that I don’t know as much about BJ as I should. I’ve only seen two of his fights. I’m extremely impressed that he has fought in every weight class except heavyweight. I just watched BJ’s fight against Gomi. Pretty impressive. On paper BJ has to easily be the most talented lightweight in the UFC. But talent doesn’t always produce wins. I still want to see Joe Daddy win, but I don’t think he stands much of a chance. He does have a chance, albeit, a small one.[/quote]

bj fought hw against machida.

 
Comment by SLAM
2007-12-10 13:57:17

Two classy fighters!

One Classic Fight!!!

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-12-10 14:05:50

[quote comment=”230628″]OK when was the last time BJ looked good in a fight. He beat Pulver and he is the #1 contender..Am I the only one who laughs at this..I dunno I really dont like BJ I will give him his props because he has mad skill but I will be cheering for the underdog here. WAR STEVENSON!!![/quote]

I’m going to have to agree with you on this one scotty my boy.
I guess BJ Is almighty on this site.

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-10 14:28:28

[quote comment=”230628″]OK when was the last time BJ looked good in a fight. He beat Pulver and he is the #1 contender..Am I the only one who laughs at this..I dunno I really dont like BJ I will give him his props because he has mad skill but I will be cheering for the underdog here. WAR STEVENSON!!![/quote]

BJ PENN looked good in every fight that I’ve seen him in. I’ve watched every fight of his throughout his carreer EXCEPT the fight with Duane Ludwig. I’ve even had the chance to watch him in person numerous times when he fought at Rumble on the Rock. BJ has only looked bad twice, but should only be put at fault for the fight against GSP. He injured his rib during the second round of the 2nd fight with Hughes. With BJ PENN’S new strength and conditioning coach he will be unstoppable.

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2007-12-10 14:43:24

[quote comment=”230644″]I think BJ should destroy Stevenson, unless it goes to the later rounds then it’s anybodies win. BJ is unmatched in ground and submission skills, but in big fights he has choked. Blame his conditioning, but he needs to bring it early to Stevenson.[/quote]

You make an interesting point about BJ’s big fights. His fight with GSP, I don’t think he choked, GSP wisely took the fight to the ground and held BJ at bay, BJ just got beat with a lay n’ pray style. When he fought Matt Hughes, he separated a couple of ribs, fact’ doctors report he was winning and I think he would have won without that injury.

BJ did somewhat choke against Pulver in 1st fight, but I also think pulver peaked and fought way over his average level and beat an over confident BJ.

I wouldn’t classify BJ as a choker’ not yet anyway.

 
Comment by ebqebe
2007-12-10 15:07:15

Does anyone else notice the looks on Joe Rogan’s and Mike Goldberg’s faces in the background of that picture. Goldberg looks like he’s blown away by the ground and pound.

 
Comment by RHV
2007-12-10 15:38:20

BJ is obviously the favorite but Joe has a serious chance. BJ won’t walk through him.

People like BJ here because he’s a good fighter. Even though he has lost recently, he has lost to impressive fighters. He would have beat matt hughes again if it wasn’t for the rib injury.

 
Comment by Roadwar
2007-12-10 15:59:56

Why not let Stevenson and BJ tag team Sherk?

 
Comment by john
2007-12-10 17:04:59

[quote comment=”230577″]Joe Daddy can’t find a weakness in his own game??? BJ’s I can understand, but not Stevenson. Stevenson has weaknesses in his standup game for sure. Plus he always has a reach advantage which only adds to his weakness in his standup game. Stevenson is pretty good on the ground, but is he a BJJ black belt? If I was Joe I would be VERY concerned with my BJJ defense, HE’S FIGHTING BJ PENN!!!!![/quote]

Joe is a mini me version of Matt Hughes which means he needs to work on his stand up. His stand up is bad just like Hughes, he is a good wrestler (not hughe’s level) and he has good submissions(close to Hughes’s level) Bj Penn has delt with fighters just like Stevenson only better so I really dont see him possing a threat at all. Many people on here think it will be close, but I dont see it that way. I am a fan of Joe’s, he is a good dude, with skills, but like I said before BJ Penn has beaten fighters like Joe that were bigger and stronger than Joe. Joe’s Ju jitsu is good but how the hell is he gonna prepare for a Ju jitsu fighter at the level BJ is on. Also Joe wont be able to deal with the dexterity in BJ’s legs. His legs operate like another set of hands and Joe wont be able to find any training partners that will be able to mimik that. Lets face it joe is a tough guy, but he is basically a submission wrestler, but BJ has delt with wrestlers before Matt Hughes, GSP.

He beat Matt Hughe’s the 1st time, would have beaten him the second time if his rib didnt break, and In my eyes he should have beaten GSP. Now I am a big GSP fan so its not like I am hating, but I really thought he deserved the win in that fight. Joe is a real good fighter but he will be completely outclassed. Its gonna look like Tommy spears vs. Mac Danzig. If Joe thinks he is gonna finish BJ with a basic guilotine he has another thing coming to him.

I see BJ taking his back, holding his arm down with one of his legs, and applying a rear naked choke…..nighty night Joe Daddy.

I thought BJ should have gotten the decision vs. GSP……how would have you guys judged the fight? I am interested in hearing all your oppinions.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-10 17:21:35

[quote comment=”230771″]Why not let Stevenson and BJ tag team Sherk?[/quote]

Pffft. Those two combined don’t have nearly have as much hormones as sherk. WAR ROIDS!!

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-10 17:30:33

[quote comment=”230587″][quote comment=”230582″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.[/quote]

BJ is named the prodigy..being the first non brazilian to win in the mundials..after just getting his BLk belt..he didn’t have a piont scored on him during the whole tourney..which is like winning an olyimpic gold medal in boxing and not once getting punched in the face.

I think it’s safe to say that BJ has the advantege on the ground.[/quote]

Sean Sherk would have won that tourney on half his usual dosage of roids! ARRRRGHHH!!!

 
Comment by nathan
2007-12-10 17:56:47

[quote comment=”230816″][quote comment=”230577″]Joe Daddy can’t find a weakness in his own game??? BJ’s I can understand, but not Stevenson. Stevenson has weaknesses in his standup game for sure. Plus he always has a reach advantage which only adds to his weakness in his standup game. Stevenson is pretty good on the ground, but is he a BJJ black belt? If I was Joe I would be VERY concerned with my BJJ defense, HE’S FIGHTING BJ PENN!!!!![/quote]

Joe is a mini me version of Matt Hughes which means he needs to work on his stand up. His stand up is bad just like Hughes, he is a good wrestler (not hughe’s level) and he has good submissions(close to Hughes’s level) Bj Penn has delt with fighters just like Stevenson only better so I really dont see him possing a threat at all. Many people on here think it will be close, but I dont see it that way. I am a fan of Joe’s, he is a good dude, with skills, but like I said before BJ Penn has beaten fighters like Joe that were bigger and stronger than Joe. Joe’s Ju jitsu is good but how the hell is he gonna prepare for a Ju jitsu fighter at the level BJ is on. Also Joe wont be able to deal with the dexterity in BJ’s legs. His legs operate like another set of hands and Joe wont be able to find any training partners that will be able to mimik that. Lets face it joe is a tough guy, but he is basically a submission wrestler, but BJ has delt with wrestlers before Matt Hughes, GSP.

He beat Matt Hughe’s the 1st time, would have beaten him the second time if his rib didnt break, and In my eyes he should have beaten GSP. Now I am a big GSP fan so its not like I am hating, but I really thought he deserved the win in that fight. Joe is a real good fighter but he will be completely outclassed. Its gonna look like Tommy spears vs. Mac Danzig. If Joe thinks he is gonna finish BJ with a basic guilotine he has another thing coming to him.

I see BJ taking his back, holding his arm down with one of his legs, and applying a rear naked choke…..nighty night Joe Daddy.

I thought BJ should have gotten the decision vs. GSP……how would have you guys judged the fight? I am interested in hearing all your oppinions.[/quote]
I don’t agree that penn won that fight, he won rounds one but in my eyes lost rounds 2 and 3, only because of take downs from gsp. It was a very close fight but penn didn’t do much in rounds 2 and 3 to win them to be honest neither did gsp other than the take downs, but I still would give rounds 2 and 3 to gsp. They ran a poll a while back because of the controversy surrounding the decision and something like 80% of the pollsters thought gsp won the fight. To me gsp won but it was so close it could have been a draw. Penn obviously did more damage but since it’s a 3 round scoring system I have to give gsp the nod.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-12-10 18:17:20

[quote comment=”230582″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.[/quote]
agreed. i looking for another upset.BJ seems to get sloppy in later rounds

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-12-10 19:21:43

[quote comment=”230877″][quote comment=”230582″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.[/quote]
agreed. i looking for another upset.BJ seems to get sloppy in later rounds[/quote]

That was the only case in his past two fights. BJ PENN has rededicated himself and will be unstoppable.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-10 19:31:32

[quote comment=”230911″][quote comment=”230877″][quote comment=”230582″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.[/quote]
agreed. i looking for another upset.BJ seems to get sloppy in later rounds[/quote]

That was the only case in his past two fights. BJ PENN has rededicated himself and will be unstoppable.[/quote]
The GSP fight is the only fight BJ got sloppier due to fatigue. Still don’t know how he got this reputation of NEVER being in shape.
BJ’s ground game is unmatched by anyone in my opinion. Submission in the second or third.

 
Comment by jjdnb
2007-12-10 20:21:30

[quote post=”4168″]This one should be awesome. I don’t think 5 rounds will be enough for these two[/quote]

No it will be over sooner then that. BJ will show those heavy hands of his and when Joe is winded, BJ will get the take down and submission.
Penn via Submission R3

 
Comment by Lots of MMA exists outside of the UFC
2007-12-10 23:04:19

It’s amazing to me that people interested enough in the sport to read MMA blogs don’t know much about Penn’s history, and then when presented with Penn’s history (thanks PhilQNY), don’t seem to give it much credit. How can you argue that Stevenson poses a challenge because of his jiu jitsu, after reading what PhilQNY wrote about Penn dominating the 2000 BJJ WC?

IMHO the best way to rate fighters is not just who they’ve beaten, but how they’ve won and also, who they’ve lost to, and how they lost.

Compare it to boxing: Ali had more losses than some recent champions, but who’s the better fighter? Ali fought the best, multiple times, and came out on top more often than not. Thats the measure of a great fighter.

Couture, I think, is 16-8 lifetime - But he consistently fought the best.

Penn’s never been dominated, he’s never been submitted (he was TKOd once, by hughes, after separating ribs attempting a submission in Rnd 2.)
Rather, he’s dominated most of his opponents.. such as GSP.
After Penn/GSP, GSP spent two nights in the hospital. Classic quote from Penn, when asked a few days after the fight whether or not he agreed with the decision: “He spent the night in the hospital, I spent the night in a bar.”
It’s a fight, and I think Pride’s scoring system did a better job than UFC’s. UFC gives way too much credit for takedowns. Unless you get some good strikes in from the top or work submissions, they really don’t do much in an actual fight… and ultimately, MMA is a fight. BTW, imho, Penn deserved to lose to GSP anyway for being too gassed to submit GSP, which Penn is clearly able to do.

BTW you can watch Penn’s ludwig fight on Youtube.
It’s a good lesson in 1) punch opponent in face 2) immediately, viciously, take him down 3) pass a decent BJJ guy’s half guard after breaking his will with more punches 4) assume full mount and pound his face and head for a while 5) take side control and submit.

Ludwig: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShZgeQ2s-LE

If you’re short on time, watch Penn/Uno I. It didn’t last long.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WTzbctEcYs0

“I’m gonna hit you and hit you and hit you and hit you and hit you some more.”
Actually, Penn is full of classic quotes. Another good one is: “Grow some balls, fight BJ penn without steroids, that’d be cool.” (Talking to you Sherk.) Or, “Step up, Grow some balls, fight on your own… Grow some balls, step in the ring and fight.” (You, again, Sherk.)
But Renzo Gracie still has the coolest quote of all time, plus the psycho look in his eyes when he says “I’ve been fighting since BJ was still in his father’s nutsack” is priceless.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1GCwnJPTAlg

 
Comment by Googan
2007-12-10 23:16:33

Joe’s good but I’m only giving him a 5-10% chance of beating BJ.

GSP vs. BJ - I saw the decision going to GSP via lay-n-pray rounds 2 and 3. BJ DID gas that fight which allowed GSP to get those takedowns, but you have to remember that GSP can pretty much take anyone down at 170. It was a legit win for him. After that fight, BJ realized he needed to change up his training in order to increase his conditioning, and I think he would have shown the result of that in the Hughes rematch had he not injured his rib.

Can’t wait for him to get back in the WW mix. Hopefully Hughes will still be around by then so BJ can whoop his ass once and for all. Then again, Hughes only competes if he believes he will win so he might not want to. Unless BJ takes the fight on short notice of course, lol.

 
Comment by mac daddy
2007-12-11 00:25:01

First I thought the 170s were crazy with talent, but now the 155s are there with everybody step’n up there game. BJ, Joe Daddy, Huerta, Guida, Sherk, and with Deigo coming down…I see some great fights coming soon.
Anybody think Deigo will make some waves in the 155s?

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-11 01:25:41

[quote comment=”230578″]This one should be awesome. I don’t think 5 rounds will be enough for these two.[/quote]
Said it in the forum before, Penn submission in rd. 2 or 3. But i’m leaning towards 2. More than 5 rounds? I don’t think so, homie don’t play that.

 
Comment by THORAZINE
2007-12-11 01:27:38

[quote comment=”231107″]First I thought the 170s were crazy with talent, but now the 155s are there with everybody step’n up there game. BJ, Joe Daddy, Huerta, Guida, Sherk, and with Deigo coming down…I see some great fights coming soon.
Anybody think Deigo will make some waves in the 155s?[/quote]

1st, I don’t know if even Diego Sanchez himself knows if he can make 155lbs.. I believed he wrestled 152lbs as a senior in high school and I’m sure he’s put on a least 10-15 lbs of pure muscle since then. If he can make 155lbs and still function yes’ he would be a threat and definitely a top #5 contender at that weight class before he even fought. Diego would probably have to change his diet to mostly fruits and dark greens, lose some muscle over a long period of time and suffer a great deal before he can properly make that weight.

 
Comment by yung gunnaz
2007-12-11 02:15:09

penn by submission by 3rd diego should stay in 170’s cuz if he loses at 155 witch he could) hes gonna cry more…….

 
Comment by Gord
2007-12-11 02:24:24

[quote post=”4168″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.
BJ is named the prodigy..being the first non brazilian to win in the mundials..after just getting his BLk belt..he didn’t have a piont scored on him during the whole tourney..which is like winning an olyimpic gold medal in boxing and not once getting punched in the face.
I think it’s safe to say that BJ has the advantege on the ground. [/quote]
It’s also safe to say that BJ’s last 2 losses came from stronger guys,which Joe is.

 
Comment by The Anomaly
2007-12-11 02:44:49

[quote comment=”231142″][quote post=”4168″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.
BJ is named the prodigy..being the first non brazilian to win in the mundials..after just getting his BLk belt..he didn’t have a piont scored on him during the whole tourney..which is like winning an olyimpic gold medal in boxing and not once getting punched in the face.
I think it’s safe to say that BJ has the advantege on the ground. [/quote]
It’s also safe to say that BJ’s last 2 losses came from stronger guys,which Joe is.[/quote]
BJ’s last two losses were not much of losses at all. And Joe ain’t nearly at there level. BJ will smash, ground, feet, wherever.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-11 08:28:57

[quote comment=”231081″]It’s amazing to me that people interested enough in the sport to read MMA blogs don’t know much about Penn’s history, and then when presented with Penn’s history (thanks PhilQNY), don’t seem to give it much credit. How can you argue that Stevenson poses a challenge because of his jiu jitsu, after reading what PhilQNY wrote about Penn dominating the 2000 BJJ WC?

IMHO the best way to rate fighters is not just who they’ve beaten, but how they’ve won and also, who they’ve lost to, and how they lost.

Compare it to boxing: Ali had more losses than some recent champions, but who’s the better fighter? Ali fought the best, multiple times, and came out on top more often than not. Thats the measure of a great fighter.

Couture, I think, is 16-8 lifetime - But he consistently fought the best.

Penn’s never been dominated, he’s never been submitted (he was TKOd once, by hughes, after separating ribs attempting a submission in Rnd 2.)
Rather, he’s dominated most of his opponents.. such as GSP.
After Penn/GSP, GSP spent two nights in the hospital. Classic quote from Penn, when asked a few days after the fight whether or not he agreed with the decision: “He spent the night in the hospital, I spent the night in a bar.”
It’s a fight, and I think Pride’s scoring system did a better job than UFC’s. UFC gives way too much credit for takedowns. Unless you get some good strikes in from the top or work submissions, they really don’t do much in an actual fight… and ultimately, MMA is a fight. BTW, imho, Penn deserved to lose to GSP anyway for being too gassed to submit GSP, which Penn is clearly able to do.

BTW you can watch Penn’s ludwig fight on Youtube.
It’s a good lesson in 1) punch opponent in face 2) immediately, viciously, take him down 3) pass a decent BJJ guy’s half guard after breaking his will with more punches 4) assume full mount and pound his face and head for a while 5) take side control and submit.

Ludwig: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ShZgeQ2s-LE

If you’re short on time, watch Penn/Uno I. It didn’t last long.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WTzbctEcYs0

“I’m gonna hit you and hit you and hit you and hit you and hit you some more.”
Actually, Penn is full of classic quotes. Another good one is: “Grow some balls, fight BJ penn without steroids, that’d be cool.” (Talking to you Sherk.) Or, “Step up, Grow some balls, fight on your own… Grow some balls, step in the ring and fight.” (You, again, Sherk.)
But Renzo Gracie still has the coolest quote of all time, plus the psycho look in his eyes when he says “I’ve been fighting since BJ was still in his father’s nutsack” is priceless.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1GCwnJPTAlg/quote

Excellent points made..my favorite Renzo qoute is ” I don’t care who put the stripes on the Zebra, I just want the rest of the paint. “

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-11 08:44:48

[quote comment=”231142″][quote post=”4168″]Hope Stevenson beats BJ. Stevenson will definitely be the underdog in this fight, but I think he has a shot. BJ will work him standing, but Stevenson has a granite jaw. If Stevenson can get the fight to the ground I think he has a good chance.
BJ is named the prodigy..being the first non brazilian to win in the mundials..after just getting his BLk belt..he didn’t have a piont scored on him during the whole tourney..which is like winning an olyimpic gold medal in boxing and not once getting punched in the face.
I think it’s safe to say that BJ has the advantege on the ground. [/quote]
It’s also safe to say that BJ’s last 2 losses came from stronger guys,which Joe is.[/quote]

Those stronger guys are alot stronger the Joe Stevenson. It was WW fights..I feel it would be hard to beat BJ at 155 at the present moment.

 
Comment by john
2007-12-11 10:00:51

Its gonna be so hard to beat BJ Penn at 155 lbs. If BJ weighs 155, he is pretty much guarenteed to be in good shape. I firmly believe that the only think that can stop BJ from winning is conditioning. At 155 there are a lot of great fighters, but BJ is the typ of fighter that comes around 1 every 10 years, he is special. No one is unbeatable but at 155 he will be tough to stop. His striking is solid and his ground game is second to none!

All hail the next Lightweight champion of the UFC, BJ PENN!

Recently Rampage was asked who the best fighter in the world is and he was quoted as saying Fedor and BJ Penn

 
Comment by john
2007-12-11 10:15:06

Breakin News!!!!

Vitor belfort to meet with joe silva this wednesday for hopefull return to the ufc!
where can this meeting go as far as the ufc bringing back belfort,seeing how he took fights in cagerage after his suspension?
anyway..he says he wants tito and have a winner take all fight,and that he 100% better now that he had time away with all his troubles.

Personally i think Vitor is washed up ever since he found Jesus, but I figured I would post this because many of you bloggers seem to still be a fan of Vitor’s

Also odds have been set for the rumored title fight between Noguerra vs. Tim Sylvia

Noguerra -300
Tim Sylvia 240

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-12-11 10:41:21

[quote comment=”231328″]Breakin News!!!!

Vitor belfort to meet with joe silva this wednesday for hopefull return to the ufc!
where can this meeting go as far as the ufc bringing back belfort,seeing how he took fights in cagerage after his suspension?
anyway..he says he wants tito and have a winner take all fight,and that he 100% better now that he had time away with all his troubles.

Personally i think Vitor is washed up ever since he found Jesus, but I figured I would post this because many of you bloggers seem to still be a fan of Vitor’s

Also odds have been set for the rumored title fight between Noguerra vs. Tim Sylvia

Noguerra -300
Tim Sylvia 240[/quote]

thx for the info John.

Even though we haven’t seen the Phenom in while..he still presents us with some goog Match ups..I would like to see..

Vitor vs Wandi 2

Vitor vs Chuck 2

Vitor vs Tito 2

Vitor vs Shogun

Vitor vs the african assasin

 
Comment by Takeshi
2007-12-11 10:49:01

I love BJ PENN… I think hes gonna win this… His ground game is superior to anyone… Go baby j…

 
Comment by Thor1982
2007-12-11 15:48:44

Bj Penn is a great fighter but im goin with Stevenson. To much hype about BJ there always has been. Bj has good hands and Stevenson lacks in standup compared to Penn. But on the ground i think Daddy has got penn beat in wrestling and will be able to nulify penns BJJ. In almost any fight joe Daddy is in he is gonna be the underdog in striking but that dont mean he cant knock someone clean out. Joe is stronger than penn by alot and thats gonna help on the ground. And yeah i know penn has fought fighters stronger than him before. And even if Penn wins i think sherk will soon take the belt after. Penn is physically stronger than he looks with amazing talent i just think Joe daddy will win this one.

 
Comment by Tobias808
2007-12-11 20:38:43

Kudos to Joe for saying nothing but positive things about the upcoming battle. I feel he has class and his statements indicate that.
Being from Hawai’i myself, I am definitly in BJ’s corner however my hat is off to Joe for his positive comments.
Great for the sport!

 
Comment by Pat
2007-12-12 00:14:59

[quote comment=”231615″]Bj Penn is a great fighter but im goin with Stevenson. To much hype about BJ there always has been. Bj has good hands and Stevenson lacks in standup compared to Penn. But on the ground i think Daddy has got penn beat in wrestling and will be able to nulify penns BJJ. In almost any fight joe Daddy is in he is gonna be the underdog in striking but that dont mean he cant knock someone clean out. Joe is stronger than penn by alot and thats gonna help on the ground. And yeah i know penn has fought fighters stronger than him before. And even if Penn wins i think sherk will soon take the belt after. Penn is physically stronger than he looks with amazing talent i just think Joe daddy will win this one.[/quote]

Joe does have the edge in wrestling, but I don’t think it’s enough.

PS Joe’s a classy guy and he’s exactly the type of person that I’d like to represent the UFC for years to come.

 
Comment by masaman
2007-12-16 23:02:08

[quote comment=”230621″]I get annoyed with all the Penn worship on this site, but I’ll be honest that I don’t know as much about BJ as I should. I’ve only seen two of his fights. I’m extremely impressed that he has fought in every weight class except heavyweight. I just watched BJ’s fight against Gomi. Pretty impressive. On paper BJ has to easily be the most talented lightweight in the UFC. But talent doesn’t always produce wins. I still want to see Joe Daddy win, but I don’t think he stands much of a chance. He does have a chance, albeit, a small one.[/quote]
BJ has fought in the heavyweight division in K-1 against Lyoto Machado

 
Comment by Todd
2007-12-17 22:43:35

Penn will win by submission in round 2. BJ was recently quoted as saying he will still fight Sherk even though he was tested possitive for steriods. He doesnt like it, but he said he would still fight him. I think the sherk that showed up against hermes franka could beat any 155lber in the world right now including penn. Its not the most impressive style to watch, but he is by far the most powerfull.

 
Comment by masaman
2007-12-19 04:14:36

[quote comment=”236855″]Penn will win by submission in round 2. BJ was recently quoted as saying he will still fight Sherk even though he was tested possitive for steriods. He doesnt like it, but he said he would still fight him. I think the sherk that showed up against hermes franka could beat any 155lber in the world right now including penn. Its not the most impressive style to watch, but he is by far the most powerfull.[/quote]
BJ is going to straight up kick joe’s ass!!! Nothing against Joe. It’s just that Joe is out of his league. BJ will dominate this match from beginning to end!

 
Comment by wrester1
2007-12-20 14:30:26

joe will beat bj anywhere any time hell submit him in a quick min. or hell ground and pund him. the only way bj culd win is if he can stand up with je for five rounds which i dubt will happen. look what je did to melvin he almost knocked him out. and bj will gas in th 2nd round cuz hes a pot head. so joe fur sure.

 
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