good call by dana

wtf didn’t Dana say that no matter what Sherk will keep the belt??, it’s hard to believe what Dana says.

As they should have…

And the decision has more to do with his laynpray style than the roids.

I think it was the right decision, if you use roids, you shouldn’t get awarded, now Sherk still claims he’s innocent, IF it’s true then he should get a tittle shot immediately, if not, I’m wander how the UFC is going to approach that in his next fight, are they going to mention it?

Sweet!! i take it this makes the Penn match a real title fight now

About Time this was the only sensible thing to do. Why it took so long to happen is beyond me…Now I wonder if Sherk still cinsiders himself the champion and does he stick to the I had no idea excuse that he was using earlier. That is fine once BJ wins the belt he can cut through Sherk like a hot knife through warm butter and show him how multi dimensional fighters do it…

good call he was found guilty needed to be stripped, he will have his shot down the line again glad to see a real title match in jan

This is real because during the finale they advertised the penn fight and suddenly stopped using the word interim. Goldberg didn’t say it and the text on the screen didn’t say it.

That’s the right call, and it’s consistent with actions taken against previous roided up champs. Sherk is welcome to dry hump his way back into title contention.

YES!!!!!!!!!!

LATER SHERK!!!!!

What’s fair is fair

Question is, will he stop juicing or will he just lower his dosage and detox more carefully?

He got what he deserved. However I hope he reinvents himself as a legit fighter and comes back. Maybe learn some finishing skills while he’s at it.

well i feel bad for the guy. His drugs levels were not enough to to effect his performance and most people know he took it accidentally. technically he was in violation of the rules but to get justice you need to use discretion. sherk devoted his life and he did not deserve this.

[quote comment=”229707″]As they should have…[/quote]

Yep damn right. I really wish they could do random testing at any time. Get those guys in the off season so to speak.

[quote comment=”229708″]And the decision has more to do with his laynpray style than the roids.[/quote]

Umm, no. Dana is friends with Sherk, so he would never strip him unless it was for a legit reason.

[quote comment=”229814″]well i feel bad for the guy. His drugs levels were not enough to to effect his performance and most people know he took it accidentally. technically he was in violation of the rules but to get justice you need to use discretion. sherk devoted his life and he did not deserve this.[/quote]

Steroids are used primarily to be able to train harder, longer and more often. Not to perform better only on the day of the fight. Doesn’t matter how high/low his levels were, he failed the test. That means he juiced during training. Last time I checked, training has an effect on performance.

How do you know he took it accidentally? Because Sherk said so? Please. Steroid-using fighters have been slipping under the radar for a long time now. These guys know how to beat the system (which is why it needs to be changed). Sherk just slipped up this time.

It was the professional and right thing for Dana to do. I am happy he did it. Keeping sherk as champ would discredit the company and the title!

THEN WHY THE f was DANA like he won’t be stripped no matter what then he will then he won’t…the inconsistency is terrible???

I think penn is going to win the LW belt then move up to the WW to win that belt. I remember him saying that in inside the ufc a while ago

As much as this is how it should be….I’m shocked….the UFC made the right decision, for once.

…and the NEEEEWWWWW UFC Lightweight Champion…….BJ Penn!!

I really like “Daddy” but…BJ is just too good.

I think Dana did the right thing, letting Sherk keep his title would be opening pandora’s box, he got caught and was found guilty. I’m personally not convinced sherk knowingly took illegal substances but you HAVE to go with the evidence. They can’t play favorites here, if you get caught with illegal substances in your system you should be penalized. Its impossible to prove one way or another if a fighter knowingly or unknowingly took the substance all they can prove is he had an illegal substance in his system. I think Sherk should get to fight the winner of the penn/stevenson fight, I’m pretty sure most fans want to see this fight.

[quote comment=”229822″][quote comment=”229814″]well i feel bad for the guy. His drugs levels were not enough to to effect his performance and most people know he took it accidentally. technically he was in violation of the rules but to get justice you need to use discretion. sherk devoted his life and he did not deserve this.[/quote]

Steroids are used primarily to be able to train harder, longer and more often. Not to perform better only on the day of the fight. Doesn’t matter how high/low his levels were, he failed the test. That means he juiced during training. Last time I checked, training has an effect on performance.

How do you know he took it accidentally? Because Sherk said so? Please. Steroid-using fighters have been slipping under the radar for a long time now. These guys know how to beat the system (which is why it needs to be changed). Sherk just slipped up this time.[/quote]

Couldnt have said it better myself.

He just missed his cycle. Shrek loses the belt, cause of his juicing, and that’s that!..Finally!
On to bigger things now. So BJ and Joe will be fighting for the LW belt now? Well it only make sense..Common sense!…

Finally!! Let’s move on now!

this is the best thing to happen since…..well ever…f*ck sean sherk and his lay and prey ways….

BJ will gass terribily in round 2 and go down hill if it goes anymore especially past 3!
we all know this
someone tell baby0J to do more cardio or something, heck get crazy bob cook i know he’s good at conditioning right,
bj is lazy and elies on his talent which he is full of, but tis not enough!! watch you’ll all see, unless BJ changes his cardio

[quote comment=”229890″]I think Dana did the right thing, letting Sherk keep his title would be opening pandora’s box, he got caught and was found guilty. I’m personally not convinced sherk knowingly took illegal substances but you HAVE to go with the evidence. They can’t play favorites here, if you get caught with illegal substances in your system you should be penalized. Its impossible to prove one way or another if a fighter knowingly or unknowingly took the substance all they can prove is he had an illegal substance in his system. I think Sherk should get to fight the winner of the penn/stevenson fight, I’m pretty sure most fans want to see this fight.[/quote]
Give me a break. Sherk knew damn well what went into his body. Im just so sick of profesional athletes claiming they didn’t know what went into there body. What did someone just hand him a needle say stick this in your ass it will help you train harder but i swear its not roids and Sherk just said okay? Get a better excuse already. He cheated and I hope we never see him in the UFC again.

[quote comment=”229951″]BJ will gass terribily in round 2 and go down hill if it goes anymore especially past 3!
we all know this
someone tell baby0J to do more cardio or something, heck get crazy bob cook i know he’s good at conditioning right,
bj is lazy and elies on his talent which he is full of, but tis not enough!! watch you’ll all see, unless BJ changes his cardio[/quote]

BJ PENN WILL NEVEEERRRRRRRRR GAS IN A FIGHT AGAIN. He has a new strength and conditioning coach and I’m sure he will never let it happen. I think BJ PENN is much wiser now and will put a 150% into training.

do the right thing.

Who cares if Sherk juiced or not? Steriod usage is overated. People are ignorant of steroids and think that they are some sort of miracle power drug. The level of nandrolone that Sherk shown as a result of testing could have easily been from creatine, plenty of steaks, and other supplements that are sold from your nieghborhood gnc store. Sherk should still have the damn belt, as he is still the champion in my eyes. Steroids should be the last thing that any worries about. What a joke.

[quote comment=”229907″][quote comment=”229822″][quote comment=”229814″]well i feel bad for the guy. His drugs levels were not enough to to effect his performance and most people know he took it accidentally. technically he was in violation of the rules but to get justice you need to use discretion. sherk devoted his life and he did not deserve this.[/quote]

Steroids are used primarily to be able to train harder, longer and more often. Not to perform better only on the day of the fight. Doesn’t matter how high/low his levels were, he failed the test. That means he juiced during training. Last time I checked, training has an effect on performance.

How do you know he took it accidentally? Because Sherk said so? Please. Steroid-using fighters have been slipping under the radar for a long time now. These guys know how to beat the system (which is why it needs to be changed). Sherk just slipped up this time.[/quote]

Couldnt have said it better myself.[/quote]

Yeah I agree with the above too. Sherk is just playing dumb. He just messed up his cycle. He has to pay the consequences which he is. Fair play to Dana. I did doubt him for a minute.

If Sherk is really a championship caliber fighter let him win a title fight and SUCCESSFULLY pass a drug test.

Pretty simple really.

FWIW, I truly believe that all athletes (no matter what the sport) juice at some point in their careers. I’m sure they think they can’t afford to see the competition pass them by - especially when big, big money is at stake.

That’s good news, finally. Penn and stevenson for the title, that fight just became more exciting. One champion!

[quote comment=”229814″]well i feel bad for the guy. His drugs levels were not enough to to effect his performance and most people know he took it accidentally. technically he was in violation of the rules but to get justice you need to use discretion. sherk devoted his life and he did not deserve this.[/quote]

I keep telling my probation officer that I keep smoking pot accidentally but he never believes me. I can not help that they leave the joints next to my cigarettes everyday.

Absurd, that dude has muscles coming out of his ears. How could you say cycling roids doesn’t effect performance? He just detoxed poorly and got caught, that why the levels were so low. IF roids do not effect performance what is the point, penis reduction, backne and assne, piss poor attitude, and the wonders it does for your personal relationships?

THE UFC Should drug test everyone, including Joe Rogan
just to make things fair,
and if you have a psychiatric illness then u should be in mma

[quote comment=”230037″]If Sherk is really a championship caliber fighter let him win a title fight and SUCCESSFULLY pass a drug test.

Pretty simple really.

FWIW, I truly believe that all athletes (no matter what the sport) juice at some point in their careers. I’m sure they think they can’t afford to see the competition pass them by - especially when big, big money is at stake.[/quote]

You couldn’t have said it better.

Great news, glad they made the right decision.

I think its actually 50/50.

Penn if he wins will try for the ww title, especially if Hughs or serra has the belt. But before he gets a run at the ww title he should face at least 2 fights in the -155 division. How about taking on the winner of K-Flow vs Huerta then Guida vs Shrek. And if he survives them let him go up.

Who ever loses BJ or Joe should take on Griffin.

I wanna see these matches M.Danzig vs Diego Sanchez and Nate Diaz vs Manny II. And see the wins face off and the losers battle it out.

The lw division is a sleeper divison now… its gonna errupt soon.

OH and good decision by Dana. It seems the guy actually is starting to get the hang of running the place.

Except for the damage control from negotiating $$$ like RC and Fedor.

Stick it to the cheaters. Like as a penalty add in a 3 fight minimum before a title fight and drug test every event at his cost. Its a good way to make sure your sport stays clean and you are respected by any naysayers.

Hell yeah. BJ is about to become the LW champion.

[quote comment=”230026″]Who cares if Sherk juiced or not? Steriod usage is overated. People are ignorant of steroids and think that they are some sort of miracle power drug. The level of nandrolone that Sherk shown as a result of testing could have easily been from creatine, plenty of steaks, and other supplements that are sold from your nieghborhood gnc store. Sherk should still have the damn belt, as he is still the champion in my eyes. Steroids should be the last thing that any worries about. What a joke.[/quote]

….??? i really dont know how to even comment on this one
well judging from the comments and every fan i know from just about any sport, pretty much everyone cares.
yeah i can see it not being a miracle drug, its just outlawed in every major sport and pro athletes are risking careers and their health for something that just gives them a minor bump up.

Good call. Maybe he will remain number 1 or 2 contender once he returns.

If BJ becomes LW champ he might refuse to defend against sherk a convicted steroid user

[quote post=”4155″]About Time this was the only sensible thing to do. Why it took so long to happen is beyond me…Now I wonder if Sherk still cinsiders himself the champion and does he stick to the I had no idea excuse that he was using earlier. That is fine once BJ wins the belt he can cut through Sherk like a hot knife through warm butter and show him how multi dimensional fighters do it… [/quote]
That’s a bold claim , considering BJ’s last 2 losses came from strong wrestlers. Sherk’s only 2 losses were to Hughes and GSP, because they were able to take him down. BJ won’t be able to take him down and he sure as hell won’t KO that rock head. As for submissions, Sherk will just muscle out like GSP and Hughes did. BJ is a great LW , but he doesn’t have the strength to deal with strong wrestlers.

If BJ takes the title, will he refuse to fight Sherk like he said? Interesting things on the LW horizon.

Laddy freaking da … All this does is make Sean SHerk the #1 contender and he can sit back and let Stevenson and Penn go at it.

Sherk obviously will fight the winner sometime in April or May

Sean Sherk’s suspension officially ends in January based on the 6 month suspsension handed down by the CSAC.

That 6 months started the day following his July 7th fightagainst Hermes Franca.

Sean Sherk will be back beastin fools in the lightweight division in no time !!! His first fight back will be for the title, he knows he is the # 1 contender so he will just sit back and wait.

Juicy the Juicer gets his title taken. About time.

This is hugh! Especialy now after the Huerta fight. Huerta should plan on fighting the winner of BJ and Daddy. That would mean Huerta and BJ in UFC 87ish. BJ is a stud, but I dont think he can hang with Huerta here and now. That dude was just crazy good Sat night.

SHERK is stripped of his title,but after his suspension or whatever is next he will get another title shot and become champion again,cause i dont see anyone beating this man.

[quote comment=”230026″]Who cares if Sherk juiced or not? Steriod usage is overated. People are ignorant of steroids and think that they are some sort of miracle power drug. The level of nandrolone that Sherk shown as a result of testing could have easily been from creatine, plenty of steaks, and other supplements that are sold from your nieghborhood gnc store. Sherk should still have the damn belt, as he is still the champion in my eyes. Steroids should be the last thing that any worries about. What a joke.[/quote]
I think that you are the ignorant one. Steroids is why guys like Barry Bonds are being indited on felony charges of lying under oath. so to says its not a big deal and we shouldn’t worry about it sounds pretty ignorant on your part. the simple fact is that steroid users DO get an advantage no matter how slight and that is all it takes in a competitive sport an advantage. So i think that stripping sherk was the best thing to do … not to mention he sucks.. lay and pray bitch. lay and pray..

[quote comment=”230487″]This is hugh! Especialy now after the Huerta fight. Huerta should plan on fighting the winner of BJ and Daddy. That would mean Huerta and BJ in UFC 87ish. BJ is a stud, but I dont think he can hang with Huerta here and now. That dude was just crazy good Sat night.[/quote]
I like roger Huerta… but he was getting schooled by Guida for 10 minutes before he gassed…. did you see the KO punch he recovered from …. that was impressive.. but Huerta cant hang with the BJJ that BJ can Lay down… no way

EXACTLY Ortiz definitly is one of the few level headed people on this topic

I will not believe this until it comes from Dana W’s mouth. And like every Sherk fan knows, If it is stripped hell get it back his first fight. So w.e. , I just cant wait to see Penn get KTFO!! Sherk for life.

yea stripping the belt was or is probably the right decision………….but can anybody at 155 beat this guy?????????

Who exactly is on Sherk’s resume? He has a lot of wins against cans. He has exactly ONE victory over a current UFC LW contender, and that was against a raw KenFlo. You know you’re over-rated when his fans have to brag that his only losses were against Hughes and GSP. They don’t say he’s beaten this guy, that guy, etc. Hell, I can get my ass kicked by GSP and Hughes too, but then I might have blind fans on my nuts.

Good call… had to be done. Still, he will be the #1 contender because he still has a clean win over KenFlo.

[quote comment=”230565″]Good call… had to be done. Still, he will be the #1 contender because he still has a clean win over KenFlo.[/quote]
You could make an argument that either of those guys should fight Frank Edgar. Sherk should have to beat a top LW before he sniffs another title bout. Sherdog still lists him with a victory over Franca last July. If both guys were suspended after the fight, why isn’t it a no contest? I am not saying that Sherk should be banned or anything like that, just that he’s got to earn his shot with at least 1 quality post-suspension win.

[quote comment=”230548″]Who exactly is on Sherk’s resume? He has a lot of wins against cans. He has exactly ONE victory over a current UFC LW contender, and that was against a raw KenFlo. You know you’re over-rated when his fans have to brag that his only losses were against Hughes and GSP. They don’t say he’s beaten this guy, that guy, etc. Hell, I can get my ass kicked by GSP and Hughes too, but then I might have blind fans on my nuts.[/quote]
Sean beat karo twice in 2000 and 2001 and beat hughes 2 out of 5 rounds and made it to a decision, quit a feat to me, guys tough. Remember karo beat the snot out of serra the current ufc welter weight champ, sean deserves to fight top competition. He frequently makes it to the top 10 list for the best pound for pound mma fighter in the world, give the man his respect he’s a great fighter and a serious threat to penn. Penn should beat stevenson and I think sherk should fight the winner of that fight, sherk deserves it in my opinion.

[quote comment=”229943″]this is the best thing to happen since…..well ever…f*ck sean sherk and his lay and prey ways….[/quote]
What are you guys talking about? Lay and Pray? He was in the guard of a BJJ black belt, there is no such thing as lay and pray in there. He is a skilled fighter who won his fights using skill and talent. THIS IS MMA FOLKS!

Sherk will definantly HAVE to win a post-suspension fight, to make him legit. No one should have a title shot immediatly after being involved in illegal activity. Not even if you are best friends with clown Dana White. Have him fight Huerta, Edgar, or Griffin. Give him a leg to stand on first…maybe 2. When you fall down, you have to get back up. He fell down, and has to GET BACK UP. Not be givin a title-shot. Period.

[quote comment=”230650″][quote comment=”230548″]Who exactly is on Sherk’s resume? He has a lot of wins against cans. He has exactly ONE victory over a current UFC LW contender, and that was against a raw KenFlo. You know you’re over-rated when his fans have to brag that his only losses were against Hughes and GSP. They don’t say he’s beaten this guy, that guy, etc. Hell, I can get my ass kicked by GSP and Hughes too, but then I might have blind fans on my nuts.[/quote]
Sean beat karo twice in 2000 and 2001 and beat hughes 2 out of 5 rounds and made it to a decision, quit a feat to me, guys tough. Remember karo beat the snot out of serra the current ufc welter weight champ, sean deserves to fight top competition. He frequently makes it to the top 10 list for the best pound for pound mma fighter in the world, give the man his respect he’s a great fighter and a serious threat to penn. Penn should beat stevenson and I think sherk should fight the winner of that fight, sherk deserves it in my opinion.[/quote]

KARO WAS A FREAKIN TEENAGER BACK THEN!! That’s no better than beating a 40-year old Ken Shamrock. Try again.

This is how it should go down:

BJ wins title
Sherk fights Edger for title shot
Sherk loses to Edger via decision
Edger vs. BJ for belt

Huerta needs to fight Griffin to determine who should be next in line. I really thought Guida was gonna squeek a decision over huerta but the MMA Gods had other plans. I still think Guida is top 5 in the LW Division. He should face Danzig next.

[quote comment=”230757″]This is how it should go down:

BJ wins title
Sherk fights Edger for title shot
Sherk loses to Edger via decision
Edger vs. BJ for belt

Huerta needs to fight Griffin to determine who should be next in line. I really thought Guida was gonna squeek a decision over huerta but the MMA Gods had other plans. I still think Guida is top 5 in the LW Division. He should face Danzig next.[/quote]

I agree except for the Danzig part. Huerta should be thanking his lucky stars after the Guida fight. Guida was dominate for 2 rounds and then Huerta landed the knee that led to the RNC. Give Huerta credit, a W is a W, and he showed his toughness (physical and mental). As far as Danzig goes, he is a vet, but needs to have some fights before getting in the mix.

Danzig vs. Gamburyan? Or put Danzig in Din Thomas’ comeback fight. Din showed he still has some fight in him in his last match with KenFlo.

[quote comment=”230732″][quote comment=”230650″][quote comment=”230548″]Who exactly is on Sherk’s resume? He has a lot of wins against cans. He has exactly ONE victory over a current UFC LW contender, and that was against a raw KenFlo. You know you’re over-rated when his fans have to brag that his only losses were against Hughes and GSP. They don’t say he’s beaten this guy, that guy, etc. Hell, I can get my ass kicked by GSP and Hughes too, but then I might have blind fans on my nuts.[/quote]
Sean beat karo twice in 2000 and 2001 and beat hughes 2 out of 5 rounds and made it to a decision, quit a feat to me, guys tough. Remember karo beat the snot out of serra the current ufc welter weight champ, sean deserves to fight top competition. He frequently makes it to the top 10 list for the best pound for pound mma fighter in the world, give the man his respect he’s a great fighter and a serious threat to penn. Penn should beat stevenson and I think sherk should fight the winner of that fight, sherk deserves it in my opinion.[/quote]

KARO WAS A FREAKIN TEENAGER BACK THEN!! That’s no better than beating a 40-year old Ken Shamrock. Try again.[/quote]
He was one very experienced teenager with 5 wins in a row before fighting sherk, most of them by submission. Obviously karo’s improved since then but my point was sean’s beaten some tough guys and age isn’t everything. Some 18 or 19 year olds have more experience than 30 year olds, karo’s been fighting since an early age.

Sherk and dana are not friends!!

[quote comment=”230513″][quote comment=”230026″]Who cares if Sherk juiced or not? Steriod usage is overated. People are ignorant of steroids and think that they are some sort of miracle power drug. The level of nandrolone that Sherk shown as a result of testing could have easily been from creatine, plenty of steaks, and other supplements that are sold from your nieghborhood gnc store. Sherk should still have the damn belt, as he is still the champion in my eyes. Steroids should be the last thing that any worries about. What a joke.[/quote]
I think that you are the ignorant one. Steroids is why guys like Barry Bonds are being indited on felony charges of lying under oath. so to says its not a big deal and we shouldn’t worry about it sounds pretty ignorant on your part. the simple fact is that steroid users DO get an advantage no matter how slight and that is all it takes in a competitive sport an advantage. So i think that stripping sherk was the best thing to do … not to mention he sucks.. lay and pray bitch. lay and pray..[/quote]
I agree, they especially help recovery and he should have to recover the same as every one else. It is cheating plain and simple, not to mention illegal.. hence the title stripping

c’mon guys the ony fighter remotley that has a chance is bj penn,and i dont even see him beating sherk,eggar….no waqy man he has no shot,danzig….lol a tuf 6 winner now you all are getting desperate for fighters to compete against sherk!

[quote comment=”230494″]SHERK is stripped of his title,but after his suspension or whatever is next he will get another title shot and become champion again,cause i dont see anyone beating this man.[/quote]

sherk is a clown. give ken flo another crack at him and he will lose and bj or joe would murder him