This is BULLSHIT!!!

he should be stripped……….

What if it was Hermis Franka(spelling) that would of won.. i think they would of stipped him..no? .. total bullshit..sean sherk is no longer a champ in my eye..

Dana must be trying to say its ok to cheat in the UFC…

Garbage…Dana is sending a very bad message if this is in fact the case.

Bullsh1t, I hope BJ doesnt fight him and Leaves Dana screwed. Buiness before pleasure and all that??

There is no way the UFC wouldn’t strip Sherk of his LW title, It just wouldn’t look good for the sport..

I bet with in a few weeks the UFC will announce that B.J .vs. Stevenson will be for the UFC LW title, instead of the Interim title.

To use one of Dana’s favourites: this is a “no brainer”!

Sherk should be stripped, Penn and Stevenson fight for the vacant lightweight title.

150% agree with this article. Sherk is found guilty..but Dana being his bend over buddy is making sure Sherk has that belt over his fireplace..total BS. Why Strip Barnett and Sylvia?? Why preach ” Don’t do drugs “..when your peeps with a chemical brother..oh yeah..cuz Sherk hates going to the casino floor cuz of 2nd hand smoke…eats an organic carrot..and likes acai. How long can this go on?? I thought a corporation such as the ufc would be more consistent with regulating their fighters/Champions…So message being..Kids if you want to be a mma fighter..roid it..deny it. If I believe you..who cares what the lab results are. I’m the F’n President of the UFC bitch!

The blood level of Nandrolone was not high enough to effect his performence. Yeah he could have been cycling and got caught when the levels were at a low but Sherk is a compulsive health nut and there is no way he would have purposively consumed it. Sometimes justice needs dicretion and after all the dues Sherk has paid during the lean years of the ufc when he had to quit because he was losing money, just let this go. for gods sake he does not deserve this and only anal retentive lawyers give a shit.

OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…

who cares what happens if he does he will at least be number 1 contender so it will be only a matter of time before he is champ again bo yah

[quote post=”4138″]Why preach ” Don’t do drugs “..when your peeps with a chemical brother..oh yeah..cuz Sherk hates going to the casino floor cuz of 2nd hand smoke…eats an organic carrot..and likes acai. How long can this go on?? [/quote]

LOL,….tooo funny Phil…….

I’m actually one of the few people who likes Sherk, but he needs to be penalized. Sherk needs to be stripped of his title, even if he unknowingly took steroids. Although, I’m sure he knew he was taking a banned substance. He’s obviously a health nut. I don’t know too many health nuts that are unaware of the things they are putting in their bodies.

I’m frustrated by Dana’s lack of professionalism. He has played favorites for way too long. He is the president of the promotion. Shouldn’t he be objective when dealing with his fighters? He is very clear about his disdain for Tito. He’s also very clear about his man crushes on Liddell and Sherk. Dana has obviously done some good things with the promotion, but I just wish he would start acting like the president of a large corporation and not a groupie for his favorite fighters.

i hope bj wins against stevenson and doesn fight sherk. that would be awsome!!! just to see what Dana put himself into would be funny

[quote comment=”228103″]i hope bj wins against stevenson and doesn fight sherk. that would be awsome!!! just to see what Dana put himself into would be funny[/quote]

Yeah’.. If they dont strip Sherk, and if(when) BJ beats Joe, he probably would refuse to fight Sherk..

What a mess this is turning into…..

Well put. I agree with this article completely. This “presidential pardon” does indeed reek of favoritism. Fair is fair, strip him of his title. he can work his way back up.

This is so unethical..Sherk must be stripped, I mean common, this is BS, it’s a sport friendships have to be put aside besides if this guy is so good, what’s wrong with fighting 2 more contenders to fight for the belt.

That LW division has always been and is still a total mess, the division is tough but the UFC keeps destroying it.

Everyone needs to relax. Dana will strip him of the title. He has no choice but to do it. If he didnt it would open the flood gates. Sherk wont have the belt for much longer. I gaurantee a press conference within the next week about it.

[quote comment=”228093″]The blood level of Nandrolone was not high enough to effect his performence. Yeah he could have been cycling and got caught when the levels were at a low but Sherk is a compulsive health nut and there is no way he would have purposively consumed it. Sometimes justice needs dicretion and after all the dues Sherk has paid during the lean years of the ufc when he had to quit because he was losing money, just let this go. for gods sake he does not deserve this and only anal retentive lawyers give a shit.[/quote]

This isn’t about feeling bad for the guy..or wanting massage his tummy..everyone has a story. Sylvia just wanted to look cut up..he stripped cuz he broke the rules. Sherk tested positive for roids..for whatever reason is still considered to be the lwchamp..yeah sure.

” just let it go “???? so just look the other way..let this slide..what’s the big deal?? Consistent is not what the ufc brass is showing..why strip Barnett? Sylvia? why talk negative about RoidBoys when you are defending one. This is the example you want to set for the youth of MMA.?? If he is proven guilty..he is not a the ufc lw champ.

You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.

I think you should add that to your post in order to make ita bit more accurate.. because right now you make it seem like Dana said he would strip it and isn’t doing it.. Which is only half the truth, because Dana publicly changed his stance on the issue after the late oct. early nov. hearing.

Dana wants acceptance and respect for the sport and is always dogging on fighters who, in his opinion, are making the sport look bad. If the UFC doesn’t strip Sherk of the title, Dana will sound like a hypocrite.

I am sure a lot of fans will lose respect for the UFC. Personally, I will find it hard to support an organization that promotes favoritism, steroid use, and unfair competition.

Tough decision and UFC has bumbled the press. Sherk passed a lie detector, meaning he didnt take roids and he didnt know of roids being put into his supplements. I think the interim fighting Sherk is fair.

Ask youselves this question … If Sean Sherk’s suspension is for 6 months, and he is less than 5 weeks away from being cleared to officially fight, then what THE FUK IS THE POINT OF STRIPPING HIM OF HIS TITLE ?

It makes absolutely no sense, no one beat him ! He does not juice, The CSAC lowered the suspension why ? Because they definitly fuked up somehow and are looking to save their asses. They issued the 6 month suspension because they assume Sean Sherk will not appeal that because the 6 months is nearly over. EVERYONE WALKS AWAY.

Favoritism you say MANIA ? OK who the hell cares if they are buddies. Sean Sherk has only been beaten by the best 170 pounders ever in Hughes and GSP. Other than that, his record is perfect.

You also say :

“If Penn defeats Stevenson at UFC 80: “Rapid Fire” he has gone on the record that he will not fight a guilty Sherk. What’s happens then to the “undisputed” 155-pound crown if he follows through on his promise? Something tells me the Hawaiian will stick to his word.”

Who cares if BJ Penn won’t fight Sean Sherk, fighters decline fights all of the time. It won’t me a freaking thing. If BJ Penn does not want to fight Sherk then as a business man, Dana White and Joe Silva get Joe Stevenson to fight.

BJ Penn is going back to 170 anyway so good riddens is what I have to say about that.

[quote comment=”228093″]The blood level of Nandrolone was not high enough to effect his performence. Yeah he could have been cycling and got caught when the levels were at a low but Sherk is a compulsive health nut and there is no way he would have purposively consumed it. Sometimes justice needs dicretion and after all the dues Sherk has paid during the lean years of the ufc when he had to quit because he was losing money, just let this go. for gods sake he does not deserve this and only anal retentive lawyers give a shit.[/quote]
I give a shit and I am not an “anal tetentive lawyer”. Who cares about his hard past. A rule is a rule. Unless your Dana White then you just make them up as you go. you could never run another business like he runs UFC. You would not have anyone work for you. He should lose the belt. If he’s that good, he will get it back. I’m sure he is making more money now than he used too. I am a fan of Sherk and still say this comfortably.

Ask youselves this question … If Sean Sherk’s suspension is for 6 months, and he is less than 5 weeks away from being cleared to officially fight, then what THE FUK IS THE POINT OF STRIPPING HIM OF HIS TITLE ?

[quote comment=”228125″]Ask youselves this question … If Sean Sherk’s suspension is for 6 months, and he is less than 5 weeks away from being cleared to officially fight, then what THE FUK IS THE POINT OF STRIPPING HIM OF HIS TITLE ?[/quote]

Because HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF USING STEROIDS BY AN ATHLETIC COMMISSION.

Turn off the caps Kevin Kelly. No need.

[quote comment=”228113″]You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.[/quote]

Send me a link or a reliable source where he says this and I will amend the post.

I am a Sherk fan and I believe he should be stripped just for the integrity of the sport. I personally believe he did not knowingly take steroids. There have been numerous articles about tainted supplements, but he still he gained an advantage by having a banned substance in his system. Hopefully, he can fight 1 or 2 times and then get another title shot.

[quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!!

If Sherk keeps is Bullsh*t title than I wAnt Josh Barnett back in the UFC!!!! This is a terrible decision. I president of a company that shows this kind of favoritism is just so unprofessional. BJ Penn is right, he shouldnt fight Sherk, but I would love to see BJ take his back and choke the crap out of Sherk. Just cuz he is a puppet champion who defends his title for a petty $40,ooo, doesnt mean he should be champion. Lets be honest do any of you really think the BJ would defend his title for $40,000, 4get it. Dana is gonna have to pony up some money cuz BJ Penn will be the real champion! I lost a lot of respect for Sherk for creating this mess. He got caught wit sh*t in his system, PERIOD!!!
Take that belt away from it. The division title has become a joke ever since he won it. He defends it once in a year! Come on strip him already so we can all move on!

All of you Sherk haters SERIOUSLY NEED to get a life. Are all of you moral freaks trying to be Captain America and are looking to put “evil doers” behind bars ? You ball bags are very comical I must say.

You hate the guy because either he is a great wrestler who exhibits a great ground and pound game which you feeble minded idiots like to call lay and pray. You wanna see people strictly standing up and throwing bombs ?

GO RENT THE MAYWEATHER VS. HATTON FIGHT AND BE A BOXING FAN

Who wants to bet when Sherk comes back to fight (if he does) he will be noticebly less muscular.

Why isn’t Herpes Franca’s suspension reduced also???

If the CSAC reduced his suspension it is good enough for me !!! They must have come to their senses and the lawyers for SHerk must have provided some great evidence to disprove he was on STEROIDS. Ever consider they brought in a full list of the supplements he was taken and had scientific evidence that some nandrolone may have been in his system as a result of chemical reaction.

Listen if a guy really wants to do steroids, and knowingly wants to gain an edge, he sticks a needle in his ass and could care less what anyone has to say about it.

[quote comment=”228136″][quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!![/quote]

haha, thats funny because a couple of my friends were saying maybe Mario, but we cancled it out…it’s still pissing me off not knowing..Thanks alot!!(j/k)….

Oh well, it remains a mystery for now..

If I ever figure it out i’ll post it….thanks anyway.

Lets Rock ‘N Roll.. LMAO too funny..who would even want to say that???

I have to completely agree with this article. Although I am a Sherk fan, if Big Dull Timmy gets stripped for trying to trim his tummy, then why shouldn’t Sherk. Sure, he passed a lie detector which only proves (90% probability) that he unknowingly put the substance in his body. Doesn’t matter. If the substance was there to make him more ripped, then he’s got to be stripped. I don’t care if Dana gives him a title shot with the winner of Penn vs. Stevenson, but Sherk has got to come in the challenger for consistency’s sake.

[quote comment=”228120″]Ask youselves this question … If Sean Sherk’s suspension is for 6 months, and he is less than 5 weeks away from being cleared to officially fight, then what THE FUK IS THE POINT OF STRIPPING HIM OF HIS TITLE ?

It makes absolutely no sense, no one beat him ! He does not juice, The CSAC lowered the suspension why ? Because they definitly fuked up somehow and are looking to save their asses. They issued the 6 month suspension because they assume Sean Sherk will not appeal that because the 6 months is nearly over. EVERYONE WALKS AWAY.

Favoritism you say MANIA ? OK who the hell cares if they are buddies. Sean Sherk has only been beaten by the best 170 pounders ever in Hughes and GSP. Other than that, his record is perfect.

You also say :

“If Penn defeats Stevenson at UFC 80: “Rapid Fire” he has gone on the record that he will not fight a guilty Sherk. What’s happens then to the “undisputed” 155-pound crown if he follows through on his promise? Something tells me the Hawaiian will stick to his word.”

Who cares if BJ Penn won’t fight Sean Sherk, fighters decline fights all of the time. It won’t me a freaking thing. If BJ Penn does not want to fight Sherk then as a business man, Dana White and Joe Silva get Joe Stevenson to fight.

BJ Penn is going back to 170 anyway so good riddens is what I have to say about that.[/quote]

Thank you. Thank you Thank you.

That is exactly why the CASC gave him the 6 month suspension. Why give some one who is “supposedly ” just as guilty as Josh B and Sylvia a lesser sentence? CASC needed to save face and thats all. CASC is wrong and Sherk is innocent. CASC is like the government, when you make a mistake you still play it off as you didnt and make the public think you didnt and there is never any proof they were worng.. The differemce here is that CASC has no control what takes place in the UFC and the ONLY thing that matters is what the UFC thinks. You guys all think that Dana W was the only one involved in making this decision. Just b/c he is the president does not make him “THE UFC”. I dont give a crap about BJ penn. He can go back to welterweight for all i care.

[quote comment=”228138″]All of you Sherk haters SERIOUSLY NEED to get a life. Are all of you moral freaks trying to be Captain America and are looking to put “evil doers” behind bars ? You ball bags are very comical I must say.

You hate the guy because either he is a great wrestler who exhibits a great ground and pound game which you feeble minded idiots like to call lay and pray. You wanna see people strictly standing up and throwing bombs ?

GO RENT THE MAYWEATHER VS. HATTON FIGHT AND BE A BOXING FAN[/quote]

Dude, quit drinkin the hater-aid. There are plenty of people here who like and respect Sean Sherk and sympathize with him if he was really unaware of what he was taking. It still seems that the professional and fair thing to do would be to strip him of his title. Someone as talented as Sherk should be able to overcome this and fight his way back up.

What makes the people here “feeble minded idiots” for voicing their opinions??? Is it just because you don’t agree with them?

Genuis! That speeding ticket scenario was the BEST analogy I’ve read in regards to the lie detector test.

Great Stuff

Well I hope Sherk feels real great about this.
“Yeah, I’m cheating and I was caught! I didn’t realize what I was intaking because I don’t keep real good track of these things. If I was proven innocent Dana White would let me keep my belt….but…..I was found guilty so Dana White let me keep my belt. If I was found innocent, BJ Penn would have enough respect to fight me…but…I’m not, so BJ Penn will not fight me because of my disrespect for MMA. So since I’m one of Dana White’s favorites, it does not matter if I juice or not, I am and will remain Champ. I am, and the fiasco I have fought so hard to protect, even though I’m guilty as charged, have become the single most unproffesional ruling in the history of the sport. In closing, thanks to al you suckers who have paid to see an illegal roid-monkey cheat on live pay-per-view events, but I don’t worry. Dana’s my Homie!

Ps. I’m still the Champ! HAHAHAHA

[quote comment=”228133″][quote comment=”228113″]You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.[/quote]

Send me a link or a reliable source where he says this and I will amend the post.[/quote]

http://mrsunshinevegas.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sean-sherk-will-keep-his-belt-regardless-of-california-decision/

Here is your link.. Can i get my name in blue now?

[quote comment=”228138″]All of you Sherk haters SERIOUSLY NEED to get a life. Are all of you moral freaks trying to be Captain America and are looking to put “evil doers” behind bars ? You ball bags are very comical I must say.

You hate the guy because either he is a great wrestler who exhibits a great ground and pound game which you feeble minded idiots like to call lay and pray. You wanna see people strictly standing up and throwing bombs ?

GO RENT THE MAYWEATHER VS. HATTON FIGHT AND BE A BOXING FAN[/quote]

It’s not a matter of hating Sherk the person/fighter. Like it or not, willingly or unwillingly, the guy cheated. Bottom line. Could you imagine a baseball player breaking the all-time homerun record by cheating, and then getting to keep the record?? Okay, bad example.

But, really.. it would be insane for the UFC to allow a guy to stay as champ after testing positive for steroids.

WAR PENN!!!!!!

[quote comment=”228174″][quote comment=”228133″][quote comment=”228113″]You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.[/quote]

Send me a link or a reliable source where he says this and I will amend the post.[/quote]

http://mrsunshinevegas.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sean-sherk-will-keep-his-belt-regardless-of-california-decision/

Here is your link.. Can i get my name in blue now? ;)[/quote]

I remember seeing this. I think I even posted it. But he’s gone back to “he will be stripped.” This is more recent (10 days later, to be exact):

BJ Penn and Joe Stevenson are going to fight for the interim title. We’ll see what happens with Sherk. If he’s found guilty, we’ll support the (CSAC) and he’ll probably be stripped of his title. If not, he’ll keep his title, and it’ll be champion versus champion.

To read the full post click here.

BustYoFace:
Thank you. Thank you Thank you.
That is exactly why the CASC gave him the 6 month suspension. Why give some one who is “supposedly ” just as guilty as Josh B and Sylvia a lesser sentence? CASC needed to save face and thats all. CASC is wrong and Sherk is innocent. CASC is like the government, when you make a mistake you still play it off as you didnt and make the public think you didnt and there is never any proof they were worng.. The differemce here is that CASC has no control what takes place in the UFC and the ONLY thing that matters is what the UFC thinks. You guys all think that Dana W was the only one involved in making this decision. Just b/c he is the president does not make him “THE UFC”. I dont give a crap about BJ penn. He can go back to welterweight for all i care.

Excellent !!! Very well put.

If a guy is guilty as guilty can get then why does the suspension get reduced? The CSAC is saving face and trying to walk away from this not looking like dumbshits.

Have any of you Sherk-bashers heard the details of his defense? Sherk has blood tests results days before and after his fight that show no signs of steroids. The CASC blood tester only tests for substances, not DNA. So, they can verify the blood they tested had steroids, but they can’t prove it was his blood. Sherk’s lawyers had the CASC blood tester send some of the positive blood sample to another testing center that does DNA testing also. It came back clean and matched his DNA. Sounds fishy…. either someone tainted the sample that showed positive or they had a mixup. Sherk’s lawyers punched enough holes in the CASC’s case they had to reduce his suspension. There is no way the CASC would clear Sherk, because he could sue the heck out of them and they would lose all credibility.

I think in Dana’s eyes, the CASC has lost all credibility. Strip him or don’t strip him, Sherk will fight for the title in his next fight.

And if BJ won’t fight Sherk, then strip BJ of the title… little prick.

Kevin Kelly,

I hate Sherk beacause hes a cheater! And because he win the UFC LW title with that shit… that’s it!

And i like my life lol

If he isn’t stripped then they obviously don’t care about the integrity of the sport. Cheaters win if they are buddies with the CEO I guess. I’ll have a hard time watching the UFC if this stuff is allowed to go on.

Kevin Kelly - Jesus dude your man-crush on Sherk is getting out of control.

Sean Sherk is the champion and it doesn’t matter who he fights at 155 lbs. no one is going to beat him.

Take his belt away with 5 weeks left on his suspension makes no sense at all. You wanna do it fine go ahead.

He will only win it back because he is the best in the class.

Any of you guys here work out ? Any of you guys take supplements ? I’d love for you Sean Sherk haters to get randomnly drug tested by your jobs and get fired cause of ” a false-positive” or simply a chemical combination that resulted from using 4-5 different supplements.

Sure you are not competing at your desk job, but if you work in Manhattan, on Wall street, or in any fascet of real business, nandolone is probably a banned substance as is true steroids in its purest form and cocaine. You would all be singing a different tune if your job or status in your department was on the line and that is HYPOCRITICAL. (NICE CAPS)

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the suspension was reduced to 6 months instead of a year… Seeings how he can fight in january, instead of 6 months later, Dana thought originally that if sherk was found guilty he wouldnt be able to fight for a year…Which also goes to show how the CSAC runs their business, If they are 100% sure that he was guilty as charged, he should have been suspended for a year like they said he would be, I dont think they are very confident. Unless, that Lie Detector test he took and passed holds more weight then what they want us to believe…I think if you use steroids, you should be punished for sure..but in this case, so much fishy stuff has gone on, I think sherk has already served his punishment (I believ if he had steroids in his system he unknowingly did, does that really justify messing up someones carreer or life?). Not to mention all of the fans he may lose because they are bitter, but the same fans that will boo him are the same people who are gonna say Josh Barnett is as classy as they come, and BJ is in the right for DODGING the fight with the champ

In regards to “JustaGirl”

“What makes the people here “feeble minded idiots” for voicing their opinions??? Is it just because you don’t agree with them? ”

The people who see ground and pound and wrestling as nothing more than a “lay and pray” approach are feeble minded idiots. That is what my comment was directed towards. In essence, if you like nothing more than striking, go watch a kickboxing venue or watch HBO boxing.

Also, shouldn’t Sherk being on an illegal substance spring cause for alarm in a liability form. What if he or someone else becomes permenently or very injured, because of the unfair advantage, not to mention rage or mental breakdown? Dana White is no longer “the head” of the board, he is a failure at proffesionalism and a coward in the eyes of any MMA fan.Thanks for letting us (the fans) down, and also everyone in the LW division. Just watch the numbers go down and all the respect you’ve earned slide right out the back door.

[quote comment=”228125″]Ask youselves this question … If Sean Sherk’s suspension is for 6 months, and he is less than 5 weeks away from being cleared to officially fight, then what THE FUK IS THE POINT OF STRIPPING HIM OF HIS TITLE ?[/quote]

PUNISHMENT FOR DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL

by letting him keep the belt they (UFC) are basically condoning the use of Illegal Steroids.

Didn’t Dana publicly say that if you use Steroids in the UFC you will get punished?

Well both of Sherk’s A & B samples showed that he had an “Illegal Steroid in his system during his title fight.

[quote comment=”228138″]All of you Sherk haters SERIOUSLY NEED to get a life. Are all of you moral freaks trying to be Captain America and are looking to put “evil doers” behind bars ? You ball bags are very comical I must say.

You hate the guy because either he is a great wrestler who exhibits a great ground and pound game which you feeble minded idiots like to call lay and pray. You wanna see people strictly standing up and throwing bombs ?

GO RENT THE MAYWEATHER VS. HATTON FIGHT AND BE A BOXING FAN[/quote]

Sorry kid, this is Mixed Martial Arts, not wrestling, not boxing or any one thing in between. You wanna see excellent wrestling exhibited?

GO BE A WRESTLING FAN.

re; “LETS ROCKNROLL”

its LARRY LANDLESS for crying out loud.

[quote comment=”228200″]In regards to “JustaGirl”

“What makes the people here “feeble minded idiots” for voicing their opinions??? Is it just because you don’t agree with them? ”

The people who see ground and pound and wrestling as nothing more than a “lay and pray” approach are feeble minded idiots. That is what my comment was directed towards. In essence, if you like nothing more than striking, go watch a kickboxing venue or watch HBO boxing.[/quote]

I love good ground and pound. Sherk doens’t pound very good though as shown by his lack of ability to finish fights at the UFC level.

[quote comment=”228109″]Everyone needs to relax. Dana will strip him of the title. He has no choice but to do it. If he didnt it would open the flood gates. Sherk wont have the belt for much longer. I gaurantee a press conference within the next week about it.[/quote

I hope you are right, DJ Pullout. This is a precedent that the UFC can not afford. Dana, in his infinite wisdom, may not strip him though. I think Dana believes him. It doesn’t matter if Sherk knowingly took steroids are not, the tests were positive and that is reason enough according to the commission and the WADA. The question is the validity of the tests.

][quote comment=”228133″][quote comment=”228113″]You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.[/quote]

Send me a link or a reliable source where he says this and I will amend the post.[/quote]

Mania,
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Sherk-not-stripped-Penn-Stevenson-for-interim-t?urn=mma,52159
When you say reliable source are you referring to Kevin Iole of yahoo sports? This story was quoted all over the net.

BJ is SCARED to fight Sherk. Sherk’s conditioning puts BJ to shame for snaking so much and being generally lazy.
What BJ forgot is that he DOES NOT choose his opponents. As a belt holder you must fight the top contender. So he can talk big all he wants but its pointless. If he wants a paycheck and a shot at the REAL (interm belts are for 2nd place) belt, he’ll have to find his balls face the furious power that will be Sean Sherk.

Long live Sean Sherk; 32-2 with a perfect lightweight record and one of the finest champions ever to be in the organization.

[quote comment=”228218″][quote comment=”228109″]Everyone needs to relax. Dana will strip him of the title. He has no choice but to do it. If he didnt it would open the flood gates. Sherk wont have the belt for much longer. I gaurantee a press conference within the next week about it.[/quote

I hope you are right, DJ Pullout. This is a precedent that the UFC can not afford. Dana, in his infinite wisdom, may not strip him though. I think Dana believes him. It doesn’t matter if Sherk knowingly took steroids are not, the tests were positive and that is reason enough according to the commission and the WADA. The question is the validity of the tests.

][quote comment=”228133″][quote comment=”228113″]You were correct in saying that Dana said he would strip Sherk of his title a while ago.. But his stance has changed and he has publicly said that no matter what the descision of the CSAC he would NOT strip Sherk’s title.[/quote]

Send me a link or a reliable source where he says this and I will amend the post.[/quote]

Mania,
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Sherk-not-stripped-Penn-Stevenson-for-interim-t?urn=mma,52159
When you say reliable source are you referring to Kevin Iole of yahoo sports? This story was quoted all over the net.[/quote]

See my response above. Thanks.

Thanks Mania….I knew I was not on salvia.

Reason Sherk may not be stripped? I hope he is stripped, however, the CSAC has some real problems and Dana knows it. If you don’t know it, you’ve been under the UFC rock. If you keep up with MMA (I mean reading more site than this one and keeping up with other promotions), you must know that the CSAS is a joke and maybe Dana is laughing while he thumbs his nose?

Probably not proper etiquette, but I quote myself:
http://mmamania.com/2007/12/04/report-csac-reduces-sean-sherk-steroids-suspension-to-six-months/
[quote comment=”225960″]IMO…
Sherk is innocent of knowingly taking steroids, however…
The UFC MUST strip Sherk of the LW title.

Sherk tested positive for elevated levels of Nandrolone, a naturally occurring steroid. His low level test is indicative of a juicer that “missed” his cycle by a few weeks. If you are unsure what this implies then you should educate yourself on steroid use and practices before making judgments about suspensions. However, the commissions state, as do Olympic and NCAA governing body documents, that no athlete may have a banned substance or elevated levels of a naturally occurring substance in their body. This says nothing of delivery or intent, therefore Sherk is guilty of testing positive for elevated levels of Nandrolone, an anabolic steroid.

It is political, I know, but the UFC must abide by the testing results by the commissions, even the CSAC…for now. In addition, the UFC should enforce a new mandatory policy of pre-event testing via blood and urine samples by an independent lab (independent of the commission). The commissions would then be forced to examine independent evidence (of which there is never any present at any commission hearing) and recognize their testing practices are flawed.

Look at the Phil Baroni testing debacle, testing positive for Stanozolol and Boldenone (not Nandrolone). To anyone who knows anything, Baroni is a juicer using equestrian anabolic steroids and stacking with oral anabolics (Stanozolol). After all, he like Sherk, looks like a juicer. Yet, Quest Diagnostic, the lab that handles testing for California and Nevada, sent Baroni’s original urine samples to another lab, Carlson in Colorado Springs, and voila, the urine tested negative for both Boldenone and Stanozolol. So why did the CSAC only reduce Baroni’s suspension to 6 months and not overturn their guilty verdict? Because the Carlson lab said there was not enough urine to do an accurate DNA test, therefore they could not prove that the samples sent to them by Quest Diagnostic were indeed Phil Baroni’s urine. Later, the CSAC dismissed the whole matter stating that Baroni’s lawyer requested the second test (um, who else would have requested it?) and picked a testing facility, Carlson, (picked because they do both steroid and DNA testing) that is not an approved facility (approved by the CSAC). One CSAC official stated that he believed the second test was done with urine that was not Baroni’s and that the samples had been switched.

It is obvious that the commissions have problems in regards to testing. They hold all the evidence, collect insufficient amounts for any additional testing and then just shorten suspensions when evidence is refuted. It is time for the UFC and other organizations to hold the commissions to a new level and provide additional testing samples with chain of custody.

In addition, California has a 2-time loser rule that would result in a lifetime license revocation ban for Baroni or Sherk should they fail another CSAC test (for steroids).
That is very serious. Forget the Area 51 Elvis aliens, this is a bureaucratic cover-up conspiracy at its best.[/quote]

NPR just did a radio piece of otc supplements that an average person may take and perhaps even an athelete, and some had testosterone and the othe rdrug nano what ever ( the one sherk had), and the reorters conluded that it was the companys fault for not correctly labeling that their products had these things in em.
this could not be Sherks fault and the MMMMA Mania article is stuid to say that he shold be stripped, many people taking this or that legal otc supplement may not no what is really in them whos fault the fda? not the consumer the consumer or sherk in this case is the one gettn f-ed.

so quick for RUMORS on this f-ing site!!!
DAna did also say that even if SS tested pos he wouldnt strip him
also he served his 6 months probation paid the fine and legal fees so there is no reason to strip him really

[quote comment=”228140″]Why isn’t Herpes Franca’s suspension reduced also???[/quote]
Franca came out a week later and admitted to using steroids to recover more quickly from an injury he sustained close to the fight. This is a common reason people in MMA choose to use, but is not considered a valid excuse when caught.
Sherk never admitted to it and there is no conclusive evidence.

[quote comment=”228185″]Have any of you Sherk-bashers heard the details of his defense?

Sherk has blood tests results days before and after his fight that show no signs of steroids. The CASC blood tester only tests for substances, not DNA. So, they can verify the blood they tested had steroids, but they can’t prove it was his blood. Sherk’s lawyers had the CASC blood tester send some of the positive blood sample to another testing center that does DNA testing also. It came back clean and matched his DNA. Sounds fishy…. either someone tainted the sample that showed positive or they had a mixup. Sherk’s lawyers punched enough holes in the CASC’s case they had to reduce his suspension. There is no way the CASC would clear Sherk, because he could sue the heck out of them and they would lose all credibility.

I think in Dana’s eyes, the CASC has lost all credibility. Strip him or don’t strip him, Sherk will fight for the title in his next fight.

And if BJ won’t fight Sherk, then strip BJ of the title… little prick.[/quote]
Blood and DNA switching is also how OJ’s blood somehow ended up all over the place near Ron and Nicole’s murder scene even though he had nothing to do with that either.

[quote comment=”228229″]NPR just did a radio piece of otc supplements that an average person may take and perhaps even an athelete, and some had testosterone and the othe rdrug nano what ever ( the one sherk had), and the reorters conluded that it was the companys fault for not correctly labeling that their products had these things in em.
this could not be Sherks fault and the MMMMA Mania article is stuid to say that he shold be stripped, many people taking this or that legal otc supplement may not no what is really in them whos fault the fda? not the consumer the consumer or sherk in this case is the one gettn f-ed.

so quick for RUMORS on this f-ing site!!!
DAna did also say that even if SS tested pos he wouldnt strip him
also he served his 6 months probation paid the fine and legal fees so there is no reason to strip him really[/quote]

In that 6 months, there could have 2-3 new LW Champs, so yes, there is a real reason to strip the belt.

Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.

Why not just win the belt, then F*** off for 6 months. would that be different?

I said this back when Sherk first started his whole BS appeal process, and now I will say it again. He tested positive for steroids,then positive agains with his B sample. The appeal and the multiple extensions requested by Sherk’s lawyers were not about refuting the tests. It was not about claiming he was actually clean the whole time. It is simply a way to buy time in an effort to discredit the labs and technicians. To continue with the OJ comparison, it’s like saying that since Fuhrman may have told an off-color joke 10 years ago, he must have somehow planted phony evidence at the murder scene. All the lawyers are saying is A) Sherk didn’t KNOWINGLY cheat, which is a long way from not cheating and B) Maybe the lab didn’t properly dot the Is and cross the Ts. Sherk is dirty, and I hope the next time he fights he gets booed so loudly his kids cry and that he gets pelted with pills and syringes from the crowd.

[quote comment=”228219″]BJ is SCARED to fight Sherk. Sherk’s conditioning puts BJ to shame for snaking so much and being generally lazy.
What BJ forgot is that he DOES NOT choose his opponents. As a belt holder you must fight the top contender. So he can talk big all he wants but its pointless. If he wants a paycheck and a shot at the REAL (interm belts are for 2nd place) belt, he’ll have to find his balls face the furious power that will be Sean Sherk.

Long live Sean Sherk; 32-2 with a perfect lightweight record and one of the finest champions ever to be in the organization.[/quote]

Why would BJ be scared of Sherk? BJ is not scared of anyone. BJ can hang with GSP, Sherk can’t. BJ can legitimatly win lose or draw, Sherk now can’t. And as for “REAL” belt, do you mean fake belt. A fine Champ does not use enhancing drugs. Sorry guy.

LOL. Half the people that are saying Sherk should be stripped ARE SHERK FANS. Yet, for your own convenience, you lump everyone who says that Sherk should be suspended as “people who don’t like ground-and-pound and wrestling”. Gimme a break. Chew on the fact there are rules and guidelines in place for MMA that have to be followed, and those who break said rules and guidelines need to be punished appropriately. As for your analogy of “Well if you did it, you wouldn’t want to be punished either”, no shit! Who the hell wants to get punished for anything?! That doesn’t mean that punishment is unfair.

[quote comment=”228151″][quote comment=”228136″][quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!![/quote]

haha, thats funny because a couple of my friends were saying maybe Mario, but we cancled it out…it’s still pissing me off not knowing..Thanks alot!!(j/k)….

Oh well, it remains a mystery for now..

If I ever figure it out i’ll post it….thanks anyway.

Lets Rock ‘N Roll.. LMAO too funny..who would even want to say that???[/quote]

I had in my head yesterday..but it was deep in the vault..so I couldn’t spit out. I remember seeing some old ufcDvd’s and I heard ” let’s rock and roll ” …if the answer is not out..I look thru my stash and see if I trip up on the answwer..VM would up with MMatrivia??

[quote comment=”228245″]Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.[/quote]

1. Wasn’t all opinion (Has the UFC made a statement yet? No, and the hearing was on Dec. 4. That’s a fact. Sean Sherk found guilty = fact. Sean Sherk sentence reduced = fact. BJ Penn Stevenson fighting for interim title = fact. BJ Penn has said he won’t fight Sherk if the ruling was upheld = fact. UFC Heavyweight Champion Josh Barnett was stripped of his belt when he tested positive for steroids = fact. I can go on. But in retrospect, this article is full of facts. Need some glasses?)
2. Blogs = Opinion. Look it up.
3. We’re not all “news.” That’s gay and boring. I can tell you a few sites to frequent if all you want is news. Let me know. I’d be happy to send you there so you don’t make retarded comments here.
4. Even “news” sites have editorials. Hell, even the New York Times has an op-ed page. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Or maybe you’re just a hater. I think it’s the latter.
5. If you don’t like, don’t come back.

Thanks. Have a nice life.

I think Dana is the man, but seriously dude, WTF. Strip that belt from him. The interim belt fight is already set up and this is pissing me off. The UFC is turning into a damn soap operah. Do the right thing for the fans and not your friends is what i say. Business is business, deal with it. If BJ Penn wins this fight against Joe (which i think he will) he’s going to go back to 170 and never fight Sherk for the belt. The question will always be who should be the real champ.

[quote comment=”228194″]
Any of you guys here work out ? Any of you guys take supplements ? I’d love for you Sean Sherk haters to get randomnly drug tested by your jobs and get fired cause of ” a false-positive” or simply a chemical combination that resulted from using 4-5 different supplements.
[/quote]

Your analogy is flawed. Sean Sherk is not getting fired he is only getting demoted. If he was fired he would never be allowed to compete again.

if he dosn’t strip him than give barnett his title back or let him come in for the title shot.

[quote comment=”228269″][quote comment=”228245″]Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.[/quote]

1. Wasn’t all opinion (Has the UFC made a statement yet? No, and the hearing was on Dec. 4. That’s a fact. Sean Sherk found guilty = fact. Sean Sherk sentence reduced = fact. BJ Penn Stevenson fighting for interim title = fact. BJ Penn has said he won’t fight Sherk if the ruling was upheld = fact. UFC Heavyweight Champion Josh Barnett was stripped of his belt when he tested positive for steroids = fact. I can go on. But in retrospect, this article is full of facts. Need some glasses?)
2. Blogs = Opinion. Look it up.
3. We’re not all “news.” That’s gay and boring. I can tell you a few sites to frequent if all you want is news. Let me know. I’d be happy to send you there so you don’t make retarded comments here.
4. Even “news” sites have editorials. Hell, even the New York Times has an op-ed page. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Or maybe you’re just a hater. I think it’s the latter.
5. If you don’t like, don’t come back.

Thanks. Have a nice life.[/quote]

First off, pissing off a site moderator, is never a good idea. You’ll always lose and with good reason.

Go get em’ Mania!!!

Second, crank up the techo and get out your dollar bills because Sean Sherk should be stripped. It’s pretty cut and dry. Guilty = stripped, although the UFC plays by it’s own rules. In reality there should be a standard that accounts for this, I mean they have a rule book stating, no eye gouging, grabbing the cage, etc… So they should add in a little line that says, “cheaters can’t be champions”!

I’m just sayin….

Didn’t Franca pop also? I see Dana all the time of talk shows defending the sport and how boxing is more dangerous. If this is true, then he’ll really be placed on the burner and what can he say “get juiced up and we won’t strip your title???” I say suspend Sherk for a year until 09, and have him start from the bottom of the rankings to even gain any respect in the sport and EARN a real shot at a title. Anything other than that would really be BS.

BJ will NOT fight Sherk if he is NOT stripped of his belt. If he he is stripped and works back towards contention then if Sherks earns a title shot fair and square then yeah..I think he’ll fight him.

CASC = The Problem

Sherk = Innocent

Period.

Regardless if I like Sherk or not, all of you peopl ein here are throwing what you think to be Fact not opinions. Please review the appeal with a little more detail this time around. Someone mentioned above in this post how Sherks Lawer(s) punched to many holes in the CASC’s case, this is a fact. That is the whole reason he received a lesser sentence. Suspicios? maybe?…

At this point who cares whether he’s guilty or not? The bottom line: he’s the most boring one-dimentional fighter in the UFC. This is the perfect excuse to get rid of him. The only fight of his I liked was when he got out-wrestled and pummeled by GSP. I say they strip him of his belt and make him fight some real talent to work his way back up. If he can get past huerta and griffin then give him a title shot. Otherwise, I hope somebody like edger teaches him a lesson.

Also, remember when Ben Johnson claimed that someone put roids in his coffee?

God Damn Mike how can anyone say the following :

“Sorry kid, this is Mixed Martial Arts, not wrestling, not boxing or any one thing in between. You wanna see excellent wrestling exhibited?

GO BE A WRESTLING FAN. ”

How about because wrestling and boxing are both aspects of MMA. Does anyone else find something wrong with God Damn Mike and a statement that says that ?

[quote comment=”228105″][quote comment=”228103″]i hope bj wins against stevenson and doesn fight sherk. that would be awsome!!! just to see what Dana put himself into would be funny[/quote]

Yeah’.. If they dont strip Sherk, and if(when) BJ beats Joe, he probably would refuse to fight Sherk..

What a mess this is turning into…..[/quote]

This mess is turning into hype,, and hype in any sports means more tickets being sold!!!!!!!!!

they should strip him or give barnett back his title or at least a title shot.

ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS :

“Sherk has blood tests results days before and after his fight that show no signs of steroids. The CASC blood tester only tests for substances, not DNA. So, they can verify the blood they tested had steroids, but they can’t prove it was his blood. Sherk’s lawyers had the CASC blood tester send some of the positive blood sample to another testing center that does DNA testing also. It came back clean and matched his DNA. Sounds fishy…. either someone tainted the sample that showed positive or they had a mixup. Sherk’s lawyers punched enough holes in the CASC’s case they had to reduce his suspension. There is no way the CASC would clear Sherk, because he could sue the heck out of them and they would lose all credibility.”

Look up California State Athletic Commision online regarding its findings on Sean Sherk. If you care enough to bash him, then look it up on your own for the truth. I for one will not post the link. Those who want to find the truth do so it’s easy enough to attain.

Yes It’s a man crush I have on Sherk, has nothing to do with the fact that this is a place where people blog and offer their views. If people can bash him hardcore then why can’t people also defend him hardcore … I guess that makes me a guy who has a crush on Sherk … Sorry Aaron_W

in my opinion they should make each fighter under a ufc contract under-go regular drug tests, not just before or after events. they have too big of a chance to juice while training, allow themselves enough time to piss clean before a fight. im not sure how long they stay in the system, but they need to make the tests frequent enough to where they cant abuse performance inhancers(for example, reefer stays in your system around 28 days, so if they tested every month there wouldnt be as big a chance of this happening.) also stiffer penalties, you piss dirty twice, you dont fight in the ufc again.

i am a huge sherk fan….but he needs to be stripped or this fast growing sport is ging to be over faster than it started.

If BJ refuses to fight Sherk, then my opinion of him goes down the crapper. I believe Sherk should be stripped of the title. That should be his punishment. That doesn’t mean he should be blackballed. Get over youserlf Penn. Don’t try to claim some moral high ground. I seem to remember someone holding a choke on Jens Pulver for a few seconds after a tap. Who’s to say that isn’t as bad as someone testing positive for steroids. Babalu got isn’t fighting in the UFC anymore because of it. Don’t be hypocritical. Sherk tested positive for steroids, so he should be punished. But lets not crucify a guy because he did something that YOU wouldn’t or didn’t do.

CASC = The Problem

Sherk = Innocent

Period.

I think the problem lies with the pee samples that Sherk submitted. Both tested positive for Steroids and when that happens are you not guilty of using Illegal performance enhancing drugs?

Why do athletes loose their titles and medals when they test positive? Because they are innocent…right!!??.

Get off the needle.

[quote comment=”228269″][quote comment=”228245″]Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.[/quote]

1. Wasn’t all opinion (Has the UFC made a statement yet? No, and the hearing was on Dec. 4. That’s a fact. Sean Sherk found guilty = fact. Sean Sherk sentence reduced = fact. BJ Penn Stevenson fighting for interim title = fact. BJ Penn has said he won’t fight Sherk if the ruling was upheld = fact. UFC Heavyweight Champion Josh Barnett was stripped of his belt when he tested positive for steroids = fact. I can go on. But in retrospect, this article is full of facts. Need some glasses?)
2. Blogs = Opinion. Look it up.
3. We’re not all “news.” That’s gay and boring. I can tell you a few sites to frequent if all you want is news. Let me know. I’d be happy to send you there so you don’t make retarded comments here.
4. Even “news” sites have editorials. Hell, even the New York Times has an op-ed page. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Or maybe you’re just a hater. I think it’s the latter.
5. If you don’t like, don’t come back.

Thanks. Have a nice life.[/quote]

I was going to address this comment when reading through, but it looks like someone already did!!!!

[quote comment=”228266″][quote comment=”228151″][quote comment=”228136″][quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!![/quote]

haha, thats funny because a couple of my friends were saying maybe Mario, but we cancled it out…it’s still pissing me off not knowing..Thanks alot!!(j/k)….

Oh well, it remains a mystery for now..

If I ever figure it out i’ll post it….thanks anyway.

Lets Rock ‘N Roll.. LMAO too funny..who would even want to say that???[/quote]

I had in my head yesterday..but it was deep in the vault..so I couldn’t spit out. I remember seeing some old ufcDvd’s and I heard ” let’s rock and roll ” …if the answer is not out..I look thru my stash and see if I trip up on the answwer..VM would up with MMatrivia??[/quote]

AND THE ANSWER IS………………………………………………………………………………. LARRY LANDLESS

[quote comment=”228340″]God Damn Mike how can anyone say the following :

“Sorry kid, this is Mixed Martial Arts, not wrestling, not boxing or any one thing in between. You wanna see excellent wrestling exhibited?

GO BE A WRESTLING FAN. ”

How about because wrestling and boxing are both aspects of MMA. Does anyone else find something wrong with God Damn Mike and a statement that says that ?[/quote]

When I first started reading the first couple of words, I thought you were talking about me, lol. Kevin, no one else seemed to back you on this, but I’m with you 100%.

Suspend Dana For 2 months…lol… strip him!!!! take the belt away….  he is not a true champ

athleticism - intense energy

Much like most of the other comments…I feel Sherk has to have the title taken from him and would expect Dana to do so. If he doesn’t they are headed down the WWE, ECW, TNA avenue and I don’t think that’s the direction they want to head. I’ll be very interested to see how this pans out. I know at least one fan that would think twice before viewing another UFC event if he continues to hold the belt…me.

[quote comment=”228384″][quote comment=”228269″][quote comment=”228245″]Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.[/quote]

1. Wasn’t all opinion (Has the UFC made a statement yet? No, and the hearing was on Dec. 4. That’s a fact. Sean Sherk found guilty = fact. Sean Sherk sentence reduced = fact. BJ Penn Stevenson fighting for interim title = fact. BJ Penn has said he won’t fight Sherk if the ruling was upheld = fact. UFC Heavyweight Champion Josh Barnett was stripped of his belt when he tested positive for steroids = fact. I can go on. But in retrospect, this article is full of facts. Need some glasses?)
2. Blogs = Opinion. Look it up.
3. We’re not all “news.” That’s gay and boring. I can tell you a few sites to frequent if all you want is news. Let me know. I’d be happy to send you there so you don’t make retarded comments here.
4. Even “news” sites have editorials. Hell, even the New York Times has an op-ed page. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Or maybe you’re just a hater. I think it’s the latter.
5. If you don’t like, don’t come back.

Thanks. Have a nice life.[/quote]

I was going to address this comment when reading through, but it looks like someone already did!!!!

[quote comment=”228266″][quote comment=”228151″][quote comment=”228136″][quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!![/quote]

haha, thats funny because a couple of my friends were saying maybe Mario, but we cancled it out…it’s still pissing me off not knowing..Thanks alot!!(j/k)….

Oh well, it remains a mystery for now..

If I ever figure it out i’ll post it….thanks anyway.

Lets Rock ‘N Roll.. LMAO too funny..who would even want to say that???[/quote]

I had in my head yesterday..but it was deep in the vault..so I couldn’t spit out. I remember seeing some old ufcDvd’s and I heard ” let’s rock and roll ” …if the answer is not out..I look thru my stash and see if I trip up on the answwer..VM would up with MMatrivia??[/quote]

AND THE ANSWER IS………………………………………………………………………………. LARRY LANDLESS[/quote]

VM..you got me with bro..at least you saved me time going thru the collection.

Mania, just a couple of questions. In your opinion, who is going to end up with more egg on their face? Sherk? CSAC? DW? The test came up positive so technically he should be stripped. The lie detector came up negative so technically he is telling the truth. I love this sport as much as anybody but this really seems to put a black eye on the sport as a whole. Also, if Sherk is stripped, how long or how many fights do you think he will have to have before given another title shot. Looking forward your response!

[quote comment=”228340″]God Damn Mike how can anyone say the following :

“Sorry kid, this is Mixed Martial Arts, not wrestling, not boxing or any one thing in between. You wanna see excellent wrestling exhibited?

GO BE A WRESTLING FAN. ”

How about because wrestling and boxing are both aspects of MMA. Does anyone else find something wrong with God Damn Mike and a statement that says that ?[/quote]

I find something wrong with you.

[quote comment=”228372″] I seem to remember someone holding a choke on Jens Pulver for a few seconds after a tap. Who’s to say that isn’t as bad as someone testing positive for steroids. Babalu got isn’t fighting in the UFC anymore because of it. Don’t be hypocritical. Sherk tested positive for steroids, so he should be punished. But lets not crucify a guy because he did something that YOU wouldn’t or didn’t do.[/quote]
Are you seriously saying that holding a choke for an extra second is even in the same ballpark as steroids? Sobral held the choKe against Heath. That 1 act will not affect any future Sobral fights. His next opponent is not at a disadvantage because of it. If an athlete has used steroids, they have altered themselves physically and the effects will put EVERY opponent they compete against at a disadvantage.

It seems to me that Sherk has to be stripped regardless of whether or not CSAC bumbled the samples. It has to be done a a public relations move. Sherk could fight Florian or Edgar at UFC 81 or UFC 82. The winner could then fight the Stevenson/Penn winner in May or June. That scenario has some drawbacks, but it also allows Sherk to be tested again before a potential fight with BJ.

Talk about double standards. Strip Barnett but not Sherk. Dana’s stock drops again. Sean Sherk tested positive for steroids. FACT. Now strip him.

If Sherk is not stripped we should start a petition. This is total BS.

They should be able to test these guys at any time of the year.

[quote post=”4138″]Are you seriously saying that holding a choke for an extra second is even in the same ballpark as steroids? Sobral held the choKe against Heath. That 1 act will not affect any future Sobral fights. His next opponent is not at a disadvantage because of it. If an athlete has used steroids, they have altered themselves physically and the effects will put EVERY opponent they compete against at a disadvantage. [/quote]

I’m saying Penn is an idiot if he refuses to fight Sherk. I find endangering someone’s life just to enact some revenge is just as bad in my eyes as someone who uses steroids. Steroids are bad and so is choking someone who tapped. I just think it’s hypocritical for Penn to say he’s not going to fight Sherk.

[quote comment=”228428″]Talk about double standards. Strip Barnett but not Sherk. Dana’s stock drops again. Sean Sherk tested positive for steroids. FACT. Now strip him.

If Sherk is not stripped we should start a petition. This is total BS.

They should be able to test these guys at any time of the year.[/quote]

Rob do your research beofre you act like you knwo whats going on.. You guys are so judgmental. Ever been blamed for something you didnt do? Maybe there is the possibility you could have or could not have done it? What do you think happens, they give the benifit of the doubt. Thats what happened, he is effin innocent.

[quote comment=”228435″][quote post=”4138″]Are you seriously saying that holding a choke for an extra second is even in the same ballpark as steroids? Sobral held the choKe against Heath. That 1 act will not affect any future Sobral fights. His next opponent is not at a disadvantage because of it. If an athlete has used steroids, they have altered themselves physically and the effects will put EVERY opponent they compete against at a disadvantage. [/quote]

I’m saying Penn is an idiot if he refuses to fight Sherk. I find endangering someone’s life just to enact some revenge is just as bad in my eyes as someone who uses steroids. Steroids are bad and so is choking someone who tapped. I just think it’s hypocritical for Penn to say he’s not going to fight Sherk.[/quote]
Jens was in danger as soon as he stepped into the octagon to face a guy who was completely out of his league. I’ll bet if you asked Jens about the choke he doesn’t feel that BJ was trying to kill him or that was almost killed. There is a huge difference between that and an athlete cheating by physically altering themself. Did you ever wonder what goes through the minds of the guys that took PED’s? Ben Johnson wasn’t ever really the fastest man on earth. I understand the pressure to succeed and the fame and money, but PED users are the equivalent of Milli Vanilli.

[quote comment=”228086″]Bullsh1t, I hope BJ doesnt fight him and Leaves Dana screwed. Buiness before pleasure and all that??[/quote]
LOL watch them strip BJ because he wont fight Sherk now that would be F*CKED UP

[quote comment=”228108″]This is so unethical..Sherk must be stripped, I mean common, this is BS, it’s a sport friendships have to be put aside besides if this guy is so good, what’s wrong with fighting 2 more contenders to fight for the belt.

That LW division has always been and is still a total mess, the division is tough but the UFC keeps destroying it.[/quote]

not only that but it sends the wrong messages if they dont strip

Long live Sean Sherk.
He passed a lie detector test.
I’m all for him keeping the belt and defending it many times.

Interesting post on bloodyelbow.com:

“Over at MMA Mania, a post about Sean Sherk contains this common misconception:

‘There’s a very real chance that Sherk is indeed being truthful — perhaps he had no idea the supplements he was taking would trigger positive test results. For what it’s worth, he did pass a lie detector test.
But if I’m doing 90 miles per hour in a 45 mile per hour zone and a cop pulls me over I’m more than likely going to get a speeding ticket even if I tell him (truthfully) I wasn’t aware of how fast I was going. And, I could probably pass a lie detector test.’

This is true, but speeding is one of a very, very small amount of crimes that do not require a guilty mind for a conviction. These crimes are known as strict liability crimes, because you’re on the hook no matter what your state of mind was. Outside of petty offenses like speeding and parking violations, which are only strict liability crimes for the sake of convenience and revenue, the only other classes of crimes routinely prosecuted in this way are statutory rape and drunk driving. You can probably figure out why this is.

I give this background because there is not a single drug law I have ever heard of that is prosecuted under strict liability. Whether it’s posession of drugs, sale of drugs, etc, you always have to have some sort of culpable mental state. There’s no way to justify holding Sherk to strict liability here, because even those possessing cocaine could be exonerated if they had absolutely no idea they had it.

MMA is still in its infancy, and the UFC is in a position where they can lobby to change the drug test appeals process. If it’s really true that 1 in 4 supplements contains some kind of illegal steroid, failures are going to start popping up all over, and unless Dana starts fighting for his guys, he’s going to find a lot of his fighters on the shelf.”

[quote comment=”228457″][quote comment=”228086″]Bullsh1t, I hope BJ doesnt fight him and Leaves Dana screwed. Buiness before pleasure and all that??[/quote]
LOL watch them strip BJ because he wont fight Sherk now that would be F*CKED UP[/quote]

I wouldn’t put it past Dana White.

I honestly dont think he knew he had steroids in his system, but the fact is he did. I dont see how they can let him keep his belt. For all those Sherk fans who think he should keep it cant you see what would happen to the ufc if they had someone who tested positive for steroids remain champ. Well jeez lets give him the benafit of the doubt and a big hug while were at it I mean he did pass a lie dtector. The only thing is he was being tested for roids not lieing. The UFC is still trying convince people that it is legit, they cant have a champion on roids that sends the wrong mesage.

Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard, “well it looks like you tested positive for cocaine, heroin, steroids, and lsd, but good news you passed the lie detector test. So fight on”

Even if Sean Sherk did not knowingly take steroids, he should accept that since it was in his system, he should be stripped of the belt. It’s not like he will never have another title shot down the road.

NEXT: For ALL the BJ PENN HATERS on this blog, where is their any evidence that says he’s scared of SHERK. Common now, BJ PENN fought LYOTO MACHIDA at 205. Although he lost(BY DECISION, HE DID NOT TAPOUT OR GET KO) you gotta give him props. BJ PENN ain’t scared on no one. The lightweight title has been put on hold for WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY tOOOO LONG

[quote comment=”228349″]ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS :

“Sherk has blood tests results days before and after his fight that show no signs of steroids. The CASC blood tester only tests for substances, not DNA. So, they can verify the blood they tested had steroids, but they can’t prove it was his blood. Sherk’s lawyers had the CASC blood tester send some of the positive blood sample to another testing center that does DNA testing also. It came back clean and matched his DNA. Sounds fishy…. either someone tainted the sample that showed positive or they had a mixup. Sherk’s lawyers punched enough holes in the CASC’s case they had to reduce his suspension. There is no way the CASC would clear Sherk, because he could sue the heck out of them and they would lose all credibility.”

Look up California State Athletic Commision online regarding its findings on Sean Sherk. If you care enough to bash him, then look it up on your own for the truth. I for one will not post the link. Those who want to find the truth do so it’s easy enough to attain.

Yes It’s a man crush I have on Sherk, has nothing to do with the fact that this is a place where people blog and offer their views. If people can bash him hardcore then why can’t people also defend him hardcore … I guess that makes me a guy who has a crush on Sherk … Sorry Aaron_W[/quote]

Kevin,

Thank you for posting this. This was exactly my point on an earlier blog when I said this entire decision to uphold the finding was completely political in nature and not based off of the evidence. Of course they are not going to let him off, it makes them look bad, and, Sherk could sue them. That is the reason why these decisions need to be made by an impartial third party, thats what courts and juries are for. This was not a fair trial, and I do not blame Dana one bit if he doesn’t strip Sherk of the Title.

Im not saying that Sherk DIDN’T knowingly take steroids, he sure could have. He also could have fooled the lie detector, and the blood tests before and after his fights. The fact is that in any courtroom there has to be enough proof to say that Sherk did it beyond a reasonable doubt. There is so much reasonable doubt in this case, its a F*cking witch hunt.

Fortunately for the CSAC, they are the Judge and Jury, and the prosecution!

Whats worse is, the CSAC allowed for several witnesses to take the stand and give testimony against Sherk, but Sherks Lawyer was NOT allowed to cross examine any witnesses!!!! WTF is that!!! Hes not even allowed to defend himself!!!

Sherk should take the CSAC to court, they have damaged his reputation, his career and his life. Sherk deserves a chance to defend himself in a fair environment, where the decider’s are not the accusers.

Again, I am not saying he is definitely innocent, I am saying whether he was innocent or not, he deserved a fair trail and did not get one.

The information on Sherk in the official CSAC filing was anything but conclusive. The testing procedure was botched, the process was entirely too arduous and lengthy and the reasons for the delays ridiculous. The amount in his system was somewhat more than a highly athletic and active males would be, ut there could be several factors on that. The truth is that no one will REALLY know if he took steroids, whether intentionally or not.
The real issue is that the belt has been tied up for over 7 months. An interm title should have been created immediately, as in the Serra case, while this was sorted out. As a fan of Sherk or not, it is fair to say that the entire division has suffered because of this event. Fighters have not had the opportunity to challenge for the belt or even clamber up the rankings because the fighters above them are waiting for results before fighting and giving up positioning in the ranks. There could have been 2-3 title fights by this point, better cards and happier customers. Fans would not have had to deal with a UFC 78 sub par card. Dana has done a dis-service to the fighters, the fans and even his beloved UFC brand name.

there is are only a few options that are available after this…

1. Dana does the right thing and steps up to strip Sherk of the belt. thereby showing that there is no favortism to fighters and he is doing his job as president of the UFC.

2. Give Sherk a few fights and then a title shot again. We have all done some stupid shit in our lives and everyone deserves a 2nd chance.

3. If Dana does not strip Sherk of the title the responsibility falls on us, the fans of MMA. Every card that Sherk is on gets boycotted. No PPV $$$ for the UFC and no $$$ for Sherk. Everyone knows that we have the strength in numbers. We all know that the next day we can all go online to watch the fights anyway. This gives us, the fans the chance to punish both the UFC and Sherk for this if they choose not to strip him.

He needs to feel like he paid for his fuck up and didn’t get away with it. But we all know that there is favortism everyway in the world. We can be the ones to make the difference.

[quote comment=”228402″][quote comment=”228384″][quote comment=”228269″][quote comment=”228245″]Off topic but relevant: Is this “reporting”? MMAmania is a team of MMA reporters correct?
Then why do we get these BS editorials. There was barely any fact presented in this article and its almost all opinion. Sorry, but you guys really should have taken some journalism classes.[/quote]

1. Wasn’t all opinion (Has the UFC made a statement yet? No, and the hearing was on Dec. 4. That’s a fact. Sean Sherk found guilty = fact. Sean Sherk sentence reduced = fact. BJ Penn Stevenson fighting for interim title = fact. BJ Penn has said he won’t fight Sherk if the ruling was upheld = fact. UFC Heavyweight Champion Josh Barnett was stripped of his belt when he tested positive for steroids = fact. I can go on. But in retrospect, this article is full of facts. Need some glasses?)
2. Blogs = Opinion. Look it up.
3. We’re not all “news.” That’s gay and boring. I can tell you a few sites to frequent if all you want is news. Let me know. I’d be happy to send you there so you don’t make retarded comments here.
4. Even “news” sites have editorials. Hell, even the New York Times has an op-ed page. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Or maybe you’re just a hater. I think it’s the latter.
5. If you don’t like, don’t come back.

Thanks. Have a nice life.[/quote]

I was going to address this comment when reading through, but it looks like someone already did!!!!

[quote comment=”228266″][quote comment=”228151″][quote comment=”228136″][quote comment=”228096″]OFF TOPIC:

VM..
What was the answer to your “quick question”. about which ref says “rock and roll”??

Im just asking because I think I know the answer and I just cant think of it..urghh it’s pissing me off, and I asked a couple of friends and they cant think of it either…[/quote]

LOL I am so happy that somone actually addressed my question, Stagger-Lee!!!!!!! To be 100% honest, I couldn’t remember the name myself, and that was why I had asked, hoping that someone would know. I believe that I have seen this particular ref in bodog (of all places) and the WEC, but I JUST CAN’T REMEMBER!

I actually just google searched “mma referee rock roll” and I came across an article on Mario Yamasaki. I know he’s not the answer, so I clicked on the article. Here is a snip:

“Most referees have a catchphrase they yell at this moment. The best known is McCarthy’s “Let’s get it on!” A marketing wiz in the early days of the UFC wanted Yamasaki to scream “Let’s rock-and-roll!” Hell, no, Yamasaki says.”

So they wanted Mario to be the one, but he turned them down. Who is the ever so fortunate ref to own this catchphrase. If anyone wants the source, it is http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/10/AR2007071001618.html

So the question still remains, does anyone have the answer???

LETS ROCK ‘N ROLL!!!!![/quote]

haha, thats funny because a couple of my friends were saying maybe Mario, but we cancled it out…it’s still pissing me off not knowing..Thanks alot!!(j/k)….

Oh well, it remains a mystery for now..

If I ever figure it out i’ll post it….thanks anyway.

Lets Rock ‘N Roll.. LMAO too funny..who would even want to say that???[/quote]

I had in my head yesterday..but it was deep in the vault..so I couldn’t spit out. I remember seeing some old ufcDvd’s and I heard ” let’s rock and roll ” …if the answer is not out..I look thru my stash and see if I trip up on the answwer..VM would up with MMatrivia??[/quote]

AND THE ANSWER IS………………………………………………………………………………. LARRY LANDLESS[/quote]

VM..you got me with bro..at least you saved me time going thru the collection.[/quote]

DAMN! this question turned into one long as post!
Thanks VM..

“of course, Larry fuckin Lanless…Man that was pissing me of not remembering…..

So whats your “quick question today??

What happens when a football player test positive for steroids? He gets what? A 3 game suspension? Do they suspend him for half a year and take all his rings away? No, so why does Sherk need to be stripped to prove MMA is a “real sport”.

No offense, but the press is notorious for acting like Protestants on a witch hunt when it comes to steroids. Sherk served his suspension and he got embarrased for something he mot likely did unintentionally. Stop acting like drama queens.

[quote comment=”228444″][quote comment=”228428″]Talk about double standards. Strip Barnett but not Sherk. Dana’s stock drops again. Sean Sherk tested positive for steroids. FACT. Now strip him.

If Sherk is not stripped we should start a petition. This is total BS.

They should be able to test these guys at any time of the year.[/quote]

Rob do your research beofre you act like you knwo whats going on.. You guys are so judgmental. Ever been blamed for something you didnt do? Maybe there is the possibility you could have or could not have done it? What do you think happens, they give the benifit of the doubt. Thats what happened, he is effin innocent.[/quote]

What’s wrong with what I said. He tested positive for nandrolone whether he knowingly took it or not right. Suppose he accidently took some supplement that had trace amounts of something that would produce a positive test, well then he’s still guilty of having performance enhancing $h!t in his system. It’s against the rules no? I’m not buying this playing dumb thing either.

12ng is 6 times the limit set by the IOC. Not sure what the CSAC set. That to the best of my knowledge says guilty. I reckon he got his cycle wrong.

You think you’d get away with that $h!te in the olympics? No they’d take back your medal and ban you for two years for a first offence.

Even if you somehow unknowingly took something, rules are rules. He had an unfair advantage. Don’t hit me with that it wasn’t enough to affect his performance bs.

If this sport is to be taken seriously it has to be governed properly.

Ever been blamed for something I didn’t do! How can you even use that. (Side note: yeah I have funny story)

Well that feels much better now that I got that off my chest. Sorry but it’s just how I feel on the matter.

WAR HATTON!!!

Actually if you test positive in the Olympics I think you’re banned from competing in the Olympics again forever but you can compete in other competitions. (I think).

WAR HATTON!!!

[quote comment=”228465″]Long live Sean Sherk.
He passed a lie detector test.
I’m all for him keeping the belt and defending it many times.[/quote]

People can easily cheat lie detector tests if they know what they’re doing.

Even if he was telling the truth that he did not knowingly take anything well then he accidently took something illegal.

Strip him so there’s no double standards and then give him an immediate shot at the winner of Penn Stevenson. I personally feel that would be the right thing to do and that that is what they will probably do.

I think that’s fair. Thoughts?

Last post on the matter. I agree with everything mania said in the write up. Good job guys.

[quote comment=”228532″]Even if Sean Sherk did not knowingly take steroids, he should accept that since it was in his system, he should be stripped of the belt. It’s not like he will never have another title shot down the road.

NEXT: For ALL the BJ PENN HATERS on this blog, where is their any evidence that says he’s scared of SHERK. Common now, BJ PENN fought LYOTO MACHIDA at 205. Although he lost(BY DECISION, HE DID NOT TAPOUT OR GET KO) you gotta give him props. BJ PENN ain’t scared on no one. The lightweight title has been put on hold for WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY tOOOO LONG[/quote]

I’m trying to imagine the voice fluctuations that would come if this WERE A real CONVERSATION. I’m just sayin.

well i’m 6 feet and gonna need some weight to bulk up to 155 ( sad but true) anyways i think ill just have some guy downtown give me a paper bag filled with shit tons of pills throw em’ in my baby food and call the ufc ( im not a ufc or dana h8r i just hate the sherk situation and sean sherk, my friends and i all hate sherk and we’re from minnesota so do 4 people like him or what??? CHEATING LAY AND PRAY FTW!!!!!!!!!!!! WAR CHEATERS!!!!

[quote comment=”228634″]What happens when a football player test positive for steroids? He gets what? A 3 game suspension? Do they suspend him for half a year and take all his rings away? No, so why does Sherk need to be stripped to prove MMA is a “real sport”.

No offense, but the press is notorious for acting like Protestants on a witch hunt when it comes to steroids. Sherk served his suspension and he got embarrased for something he mot likely did unintentionally. Stop acting like drama queens.[/quote]

Yeah the stupid thing about NFL testing is that according to what I hear, the NFL conducts the tests. Dana is right about one thing, if the NFL tested their athletes the same as Combat sports, then there would be no NFL.

[quote comment=”228649″][quote comment=”228465″]Long live Sean Sherk.
He passed a lie detector test.
I’m all for him keeping the belt and defending it many times.[/quote]

People can easily cheat lie detector tests if they know what they’re doing.

Even if he was telling the truth that he did not knowingly take anything well then he accidently took something illegal.

Strip him so there’s no double standards and then give him an immediate shot at the winner of Penn Stevenson. I personally feel that would be the right thing to do and that that is what they will probably do.

I think that’s fair. Thoughts?[/quote]

On your first point, polygraphs are not easy to fool. They measure your heartrate, breathing, how much you are sweating, as well as several other involuntary things that you do when your lying. In addition, some places will video tape you, because your eye movement while answering a question can give some insight to whether they are lying or not.

On a polygraph you may be able to control some of these things, but it takes a freak of nature to control all of them. The reason why it not admissible in court is because it is not infallible, with much practice, you can learn to trick one, but it is by no means easy.

hay does anyone on here know dana white? if u do tell him 2 pull his head out of his ass and strip sean of his title. i don’t care if he knew or not he should b strip of the title just 4 the fact he fail!! unless the people that did the test said they screwed up! i thought dana white was smarter then this but i guess a good fighter in his eyes is someone with roid rage. if he keeps the belt i will boycott sherk and i won’t get the pay pre veiw if he is on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote comment=”228821″]hay does anyone on here know dana white? if u do tell him 2 pull his head out of his ass and strip sean of his title. i don’t care if he knew or not he should b strip of the title just 4 the fact he fail!! unless the people that did the test said they screwed up! i thought dana white was smarter then this but i guess a good fighter in his eyes is someone with roid rage. if he keeps the belt i will boycott sherk and i won’t get the pay pre veiw if he is on it!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Yea you will boycott and not buy it, but I’m about 95 % sure you’ll go to a friends house to watch it though.
Sean Sherk will remain the title holder and then run through whoever wins between stevenson n penn. ( Let’s go Stevenson by the way )