Welterweight contender Karo Parisyan has apparently earned a title shot in six or seven months if he wants to wait, according to a recent interview on PunchDrunkGamer.com.
“People are talking about that [a fight with Jon Fitch], I don’t know. The deal is I think I already have a title shot if I want to wait. If I wait I can get my title shot I guess in six or seven months from now, which is a long time away, and I don’t want to mess up my plans of getting my title shot. Now I would love to fight Jon Fitch, but if I fight him and god forbid something goes wrong and I lose that fight it puts me all the way back down again and I have to work back up for a title fight. So if I am guaranteed a title fight now, I’ll take the title fight or if I don’t want to wait such a long time I’ll take another opponent who I have a more ‘guaranteed’ win over. I still think I can beat Jon Fitch – Jon’s a very tough guy, but I think that if I am in shape that I can beat him eight out of 10 times. But at this point I don’t want to jeopardize anything leading up to my title fight, so we’ll see what the UFC will offer and what I will take.”
Ridiculous for these reasons:
- UFC Welterweight Champion Matt Serra still has to fight the winner of the bout between Matt Hughes and Georges St. Pierre at UFC 79 to declare an “undisputed” champion. At the earliest that will happen is more than likely sometime in April 2008.
- More “guaranteed” win? That’s garbage. “The Heat” wants a can or no one until mid-2008. Talk about a gamer.
- Fitch deserves the opportunity — he has seven consecutive UFC wins and has not lost since 2002. (Yes, I like Fitch. But, it’s my site and a blog … entitled to that opinion.)
When we heard word that the UFC approached Fitch with a fight against Akihiro Gono at UFC 82 instead of Parisyan we speculated that he may have earned the “guaranteed” title fight. It was the only thing that made sense because a showdown between Parisyan and Fitch would set up a number one contender bout.
It just seemed illogical because would Parisyan really want to wait that long? Apparently the answer to that question is a big fat, “Yes.” Either that or he’ll fight Ross Pointon. Yay.
There’s some history here that comes into play that must be mentioned — Parisyan was booked to challenge then 170-pound champion Matt Hughes at UFC 56 in 2005 for the welterweight crown. He got hurt prior to the fight and had to withdraw. He was replaced at the last minute by Joe Riggs (who didn’t make weight and was submitted in round one).
Parisyan missed his chance … and he slid even farther back in line when he dropped a unanimous decision to Diego Sanchez at UFC Fight Night 6 in 2006. He has since rattled off three consecutive wins and has a solid overall record inside the Octagon (8-2) in a very talent-rich division.
Put simply, he has the title shot within his grasp and he does not want to miss out on the opportunity … again.
Personally, I can’t empathize with Karo. He’s a world class fighter, sacrificing every day to one day become a champion. I’m just a fan. A fan who wants to see the best fighters fight the best fighters.
Just one more thing: Isn’t losing to a can more of a career “risk” than losing to someone like Fitch? Doesn’t make much sense … unless you’re Karo.
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i would like to see him fight in the mean time but i dont blame him for not wanting to take a fight. he is right if he loses the fight he loses his title shot. We all know that if he does lose this next fight he will probably have to win 3 or 4 fights before he would get another chance a title shot.
havent had the time to read the hole thing ..but this is the karo talking we saw on the tuf show… he is so full of himself… soon he will be talking in 3rd person.. karo must think he gets one.. but in my mind i dont see him ever being champ
And this is why nobody wants Karo to be champ except for Karo and maybe Manny Gamburyan.
[quote comment=”222366″]havent had the time to read the hole thing ..but this is the karo talking we saw on the tuf show… he is so full of himself… soon he will be talking in 3rd person.. karo must think he gets one.. but in my mind i dont see him ever being champ[/quote]
karo must think he gets one ..ignor that…
being a champ means you gotta fight the best.. not get the belt and wimp out.. .. fight the best to be the best
Karo makes some good points. If Serra is not able to return to fighting for lets say more than 6 months from now, then the GSP/Hughes III winner will need to fight in late Spring. In that scenario, Fitch or Karo would get the chance and my guess is that Karo would be selected over Fitch anyway. Also, since Fitch has been asked to fight Gono, it appears that the UFC is leaning toward Karo.
Since Karo has a broken hand, the extra healing time would be expected before he takes on a fight with any non-can like Fitch. So waitng the 6 - 7 months is realistic. If Serra does return to action in lets say March. He would fight the Interim champ and the unified winner would defend 3 - 4 months after that. Again, its right at the end of Karo’s expected time frame.
Karo does not want to fight fitch right now he wants to get his title shot that he should have had 2 years ago you cant blame him for that, and just to correct Karo he beats fitch 1 out of ten times theres no way karo beats fitch
Karos not the only one looking for an easy way, Fitch declined to fight hughes hes looking for easy road to. its not about fighting because you love to fight anymore and you want to fight the best its about not losing so you can get the big paydays.
He is talking more like manager/promoter than a fighter. Karo stop bitching about this and that..u get a shot when you earn a shot. Karo should fight Fitch and really find out who is number 1? This statement makes him look like ass cheeks. Maybe he should fight Blake Bowman..or Joe Scarola to help boost is ego. Fighters..fighter..it’s not about the belt..it’s a about Pride.
we are talking about KARO!
dont you know WHO I AM BRO?!?!
WAIT… i mean dont you know who he is bro?!?
DONT YOU KNOW WHO HE IS BRO!?!?!
karo gonna have to fight fitch for a title shot. no way he has one already
What an egomaniac, beat fitch 8 out of 10 times?? I bet it would be fitch who would beat him 8 out of 10 times, fitch is close to gsp just not as athletic. I say let him get threw fitch, if he does THEN he deserves a title shot, title shots should be reserved for the number one contender. If he defeats another “can” how does that make him worthy of a title shot???? This guy is baked.
I think I’m in like company. I think Karo the fighter is a stud, love to watch that dude fight. Karo the person is a complete dick. I can’t stand that dude and all his bs. I can see where he’s coming from though, he already lost a title shot, why risk it again. Looking at him and Fitch, I would give them both a 50/50. Dia mette is right, Fitch bailed on a fight cause he would have to cut weight. Screw that, you get a chance to fight Matt Hughes in a main event, how do you turn it down? That’s a opportunity of a life time for a guy who’s been fighting nothing but plugs (Diego is a good fighter, I think a mid-level guy at 170, I think he would be better suited putting on more muscle or dropping to 155). This welterweight crap is never ending.
Just gimmie GSP vs Hughes III, GSP wins and doesn’t lose for a long long time.
Fitch will MAUL Karo and he knows it, talk about being scared trust me if he fights Fitch he will never see a title shot Karo does not have what it takes to be the champion, he will always get close but no cigar!
completely agree Mania…good thoughts…cheers.
I can’t blame him. He wants to make the big bucks for his effort and the best way is to wait for the title shot after whipping a chump.
I’m a Karo fan, and a Fitch fan, but I’ve never heard Jon Fitch decline a fight for fear of losing. That alone gives him a higher ranking in my book. Champions don’t fear opponents.
Personally, I don’t think he has earned the title shot. He’s beaten Drew Fickett, Burkman and Chonan since losing to Diego. Those three guys are good fighters, but not top tier welterweights. On top of that, he hasn’t finished any of those guys. Fitch doesn’t derserve a title shot either, until he beats a top five guy. Fitch has beaten as good or better fighters then Karo has. They both fought Sanchez and Burkman. Fitch beat Sanchez and finished Burkman. Not to mention, Fitch beat a game Thiago Alves.
I agree with Mania 100% here. He needs to fight Fitch. It’s the only fight that makes sense. GSP, Hughes and Serra have to get those two fights out of the way before anyone can get a shot at the belt. Fitch and Karo are #4 and #5 in the welterweight division. Sanchez and Kos are after them.
heres the thing, if your the guy who gets the title shot it should be undisputed #1…so that means he would have to beat fitch…the thing he has to realize that if he truly wants to be champion he will have to fight the #1 contender everytime he fights, might as well start fighting the #1 contenders right now, to see if he even deserves it..no since of sitting back for seven months to either, get your ass handed to you by the champ, or beat the champ then dodge anyone that you think might take your belt 2 out of 10 times
Is there any chance Danny Abbadi could cut to make 170 and fight Karo? That seems to be what he wants.
Lets not forget that the UFC postponed the Serra/Hughes fight for an additional 3 or 4 months when they selected them as coaches of TUF6.
Hughes last fought in March, and Serra won the belt in April. If you take away TUF, that fight should have occurred in August, and most of us on here were very upset when it was pushed back to December. How do you think the other WW contenders felt?
The point is, every time the UFC pushes back a title fight, that adds significant risk to all of the top 5 or 6 contenders in that particular weight class, who are then forced to wait for their title shots and/or fight another contender.
And when you’re dealing with a stacked division like the WWs–where you have 6 contenders who would be guaranteed a title shot if they were fighting in a slim division, like the MWs–that risk is magnified even more.
I hate to say it, but Karo has a point, despite sounding like a cocky schmuck when he’s making it. None of the top WWs (GSP, Hughes, Fitch, Kos, Karo, etc.) necessarily DESERVE to be forced to wait for a title shot that they feel they already earned. just look at what happened to Diego when he was forced to wait…he lost back-to-back.
If he has been told that a title shot is next, why would he fight Fitch? I’m like any other fan, I want to see good fights and Karo-Fitch is a good fight.
However, Karo has to do what’s in the best interest for himself. If that means waiting for a title shot, so be it. Should he win the belt, he’ll face Fitch soon enough.
Personally, I think Fitch has been better than Karo over the last year or two and is slightly more deserving of a title shot. But you can’t knock Karo for playing it smart if given the opportunity.
[quote comment=”222413″]Is there any chance Danny Abbadi could cut to make 170 and fight Karo? That seems to be what he wants.[/quote]
I think he’s eyeing a showdown with infamous Blake Bowman…now that’s a number one contenders match.
[quote comment=”222374″]Karos not the only one looking for an easy way, Fitch declined to fight hughes hes looking for easy road to.[/quote]
Wasn’t it stated somewhere that Fitch declined the Hughes fight cause he thought he couldn’t make weight in time? I doubt he was dodging Hughes.
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I think Karo gets the award for being the biggest tool in the UFC, though Dana might be a close second. It seems to fit just perfectly that he won’t take a chance on jeopardizing a title shot, yet he does have the nerve to say he’d beat Fitch 8 out of 10 times. I guess he did add the caveat of “being in shape”, so he could always fall back on his little pot belly for an excuse if he needs it.
I’m glad Hughes didnt go this route.
karo is being ridiculous? i will be pissed if his efforts so far have earned him a shot, because he doesnt deserve one. yea it’s true he’s been right up there as far as top WWs but i don’t think he’s done anything to earn him a title shot yet. i like the fitch-karo idea the best. i mean come on, there’s no way they can give him a shot if we r still waitin on gsp-hughes then winner-serra. it’s just not gunna happen. karo never pulled out a W against top competition, he doesnt deserve the shot until he does. and he wont be beating fitch anytime soon. i’d like to see karo-kos too
[quote comment=”222420″][quote comment=”222374″]Karos not the only one looking for an easy way, Fitch declined to fight hughes hes looking for easy road to.[/quote]
Wasn’t it stated somewhere that Fitch declined the Hughes fight cause he thought he couldn’t make weight in time? I doubt he was dodging Hughes.[/quote]
Fitch said he wouldn’t be in the country. Something about Vietnam and personal matters.
[quote comment=”222409″]Personally, I don’t think he has earned the title shot. He’s beaten Drew Fickett, Burkman and Chonan since losing to Diego. Those three guys are good fighters, but not top tier welterweights. On top of that, he hasn’t finished any of those guys. Fitch doesn’t derserve a title shot either, until he beats a top five guy. Fitch has beaten as good or better fighters then Karo has. They both fought Sanchez and Burkman. Fitch beat Sanchez and finished Burkman. Not to mention, Fitch beat a game Thiago Alves.
I agree with Mania 100% here. He needs to fight Fitch. It’s the only fight that makes sense. GSP, Hughes and Serra have to get those two fights out of the way before anyone can get a shot at the belt. Fitch and Karo are #4 and #5 in the welterweight division. Sanchez and Kos are after them.[/quote]
I completely AGree with your whole assesment. I am a fan of both, but in my oppinion, if a title shot was availbale today, they would both still need a victory of a top opponent to deserve a title shot. The only way to make some sense of this mess, is for both to fight each other. The looser would be a very quality win for the winner, and make him deserving of the shot.
Fitch vs. Karo, In my oppinion Fitch would win. The title fight I am waiting for is GSP vs. Fitch…thats a real quality title fight between in my oppinion the best 2 fighters in the division.
Hey let me ask all of you something, If you worked for ten plus years for something and you were finally able to get it, But you had to wait for seven months or take a chance even if its 90% positive that you would win, which one would you do?
Dang Mania, did Karo strike a chord with you or what?
I do believe Karo would win a fight against Fitch 8 out of 10 times, because as Karo said it the best at UFC 71 “I have the best judo throw in the world. High Five!”
Karo deserves a title shot, he should not have to fight Jon Fitch for that contendership.
Look at GSP, he fought and defeated Koscheck, then he gets an automatic title shot. That is complete garbage. When GSP defeated Koscheck we should of seen a Fitch vs. GSP for the number 1 contendership with Karo being in line to fight the winner of Hughes/Serra.
Karo has been the most overlooked welterweight for years. He has one shot, and he got injured. Shows you how much the UFC really likes Karo.
Fitch vs. Karo would be nice, but I think Fitch would just try to out-wrestle his way to victory while Karo would go 110% with his judo throws and his cardio.
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Karo should be the number 1 contender, no questions asked.
Jon Fitch is good, and his fight and victory of Deigo showed me a lot. But, Karo has been waiting in the wings for this shot for a long time and he deserves it.
[quote comment=”222443″]Hey let me ask all of you something, If you worked for ten plus years for something and you were finally able to get it, But you had to wait for seven months or take a chance even if its 90% positive that you would win, which one would you do?[/quote]
I don’t disagree with you. For Karo, personally, it would make sense to wait for a title shot. In his business that is the ultimate goal, and the wait is worth all the money and fame that comes with it.
I just don’t think he’s earned the title shot. Everytime he gets close something happens. Injury against Hughes. The loss to Diego. In my eyes, he only earns a shot with a victory of Fitch. If I’m the UFC that is the only way he gets in line after GSP, Hughes and Serra.
I can understand Karo’s situation but c’mon…he’s such a cry baby. as if being in the UFC for a long time is the prerequisite to fighting for the title.
This guy doesn’t (really) want to be the best. The ‘title’ of ‘Champion’ is all he wants…..if this was boxing, i bet he’d dodge all the best fighters (if he ever won the belt –which he won’t).
Clearly this shows that Karo ” candy ass crybaby / Do you know what I can do to these punks ? ” Parysian knows that Jon Fitch can work him over.
Karo will alwys be a B level fighter. He is never going to be considered a top three fighter unless Hughes retires and GSP moves up to 185 lbs.
I can name three guys right now that Karo would lose to.
1. Jon Fitch
2. Diego Sanchez
3. Josh Koscheck
Any questions ?
[quote comment=”222448″]Dang Mania, did Karo strike a chord with you or what?
I do believe Karo would win a fight against Fitch 8 out of 10 times, because as Karo said it the best at UFC 71 “I have the best judo throw in the world. High Five!”
Karo deserves a title shot, he should not have to fight Jon Fitch for that contendership.
Look at GSP, he fought and defeated Koscheck, then he gets an automatic title shot. That is complete garbage. When GSP defeated Koscheck we should of seen a Fitch vs. GSP for the number 1 contendership with Karo being in line to fight the winner of Hughes/Serra.
Karo has been the most overlooked welterweight for years. He has one shot, and he got injured. Shows you how much the UFC really likes Karo.
Fitch vs. Karo would be nice, but I think Fitch would just try to out-wrestle his way to victory while Karo would go 110% with his judo throws and his cardio.
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Karo should be the number 1 contender, no questions asked.
Jon Fitch is good, and his fight and victory of Deigo showed me a lot. But, Karo has been waiting in the wings for this shot for a long time and he deserves it.[/quote]
to Gsp’s credit he won the ww title..was the champ lost to serra..the ufc said if Gsp gets thru kos he would be a next for a title shot.
Matt H lost to serra fought chris L..got the title shot.
I feel Karo should fight Fitch next to determine who will fight after Serra vs Gsp/Hughes..Why is Karo Shook?
Nobody in this business should have the right to “duck” a fight. If the UFC called him tomorrow and said “you need to fight Fitch” and he did not, then forget any title shot. You’re paid to fight. We pay to watch which pays your check. Sounds to me like Karo is the “can.” Besides, agree with me or not, it is Fitch who would beat Karo 8 out of 10 times.
And furthermore …
Doesn’t Karo realize why he is fighting guys like Josh Burkman and Ryo Chonan ? LOL
He hasn’t quite figured out what we already know. You are not a superstar “bro” you do not bring in the big PPV dollars and you have no business fighting Matt Hughes or GSP.
Karo is still living in the past when he beat Matt Serra. Only problem with thinking that beating Serra actually means something is …. IT DOESN’T !!! Serra had his 15 minutes time to go train wannabe’s in Long Island.
wow, mania, i completely disagree. i think Karo is being smart. the guy does deserve a title shot and if he’s right about the ufc telling him he can have one in 7 months or he can have one in 7 months after a fight with fitch, he should take the option that DOES NOT INCLUDE FITCH. Karo’s got nothing to prove, he earned a title shot a couple years ago, got hurt and then rattled off a bunch of wins after that! he’s done more that enough to challenge for the title. he needs to think about his career and his fam. not taking the fight with a fitch if he doesn’t have to doesn’t make him a wimp, it makes him smart.
he can always fight fitch for the title afterwards.
Dear Karo,
You now have the opportunity to fight a top contender like Jon Fitch and PROVE that your time for a title shot has come. Why not test yourself against Fitch now? Considering that he would be next in line to fight you if you won the belt… Plus fighting him earlier in your career gives you the chance to bounce back if you suffer a loss. You are a young guy and have plenty of time to improve and win fights.
GSP holds a convincing win over you already, therefore you need all the practice you can get… If you can’t beat Fitch, you aint beating GSP or Hughes…
i think both these guys deserve a shot at the belt, both have good records karo deserves it alot missing his chance and all and fitch is just awesome, anyways the best thing to to is in march or april have a #1 contender match for next in line of the winner of serra vs hughes\stpierre match. i like them both but i think fitch would take the heat
P arisyan deserves a title shot.
U nless he loses to Fitch.
S hould be next in line considering injury robbed him before.
S mart not to take a chance losing to another good fighter.
Y ou wouldn’t take a chance either if it was guaranteed.
parisyan is a fucking moron if he thinks he is next in line for a title shot. i would kick this fucker out of my camp if i was couture. you got couture wanting to fight the best and there is this guy wanting to fight a chump to preserve his place in line for a title shot. what a joke. what parisyan should do is get a rematch with diego sanchez so he could at least avenge his embarrassment and sorry excuse for a loss. compared to the way jon fitch has finished his fights, he is more deserving a title shot. i guess what makes more sense is exactly what mania has mentioned, fitch vs parisyan. someone should shut this dumbass up. and yes i fucking hate parisyan. let him start from scratch. someone who wants to fight a nobody should not even be mentioned as a title contender
Sorry Karo, the time I checked GSP and Hughes are the current number one contenders. He was promised a title shot a while back. I guess its only logical he fights Fitch for the next contender. Agree, disagree..anyone. Man this WW div..is a bit complicated right now.
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Karo Parishyan to fight Monsta Lobster Berube Super Bowl Weekend.
This will be Berube’s first fight since losing to a waitress named Cindy in September. Berube comments”Cindy was very tough, quite surprising for such a small frame. She actualy has smaller boobs than Karo in his pre-shrunk shirts”
Karo sees this fight as a stepping stone to a future fight with Josh Haynes
Why in the world would he duck Fitch then state he could beat him 8 out of 10 times.
Just for that, make him fight Fitch. Let Fitch rip him up.
I see where he’s coming from, but if he fights for the title and wins, he is going to have to fight Fitch anyway. Not to mention GSP, Hughes, Koscheck, Serra again, Diego again, etc. Hell, Penn might even make his way back there eventually.
I don’t think he has a guaranteed shot anyway with Fitch’s recent success. But if he beats Fitch there is no arguing he would be up for one.
Hey, I have an idea. Instead of fighting Fitch for a shot, at the very least why not fight Diego this spring in a rubber match? If he redeems his loss to Diego, he should get his shot back. Works also for Diego as I am sure he wants to get back on the winning track too.
And maybe start beating people…in my mind, a decision victory isn’t “winning the fight”; it’s having 3 people decide which of the two looked to be doing better in the fight. A decision is neither winning or losing…
[quote comment=”222528″]Hey, I have an idea. Instead of fighting Fitch for a shot, at the very least why not fight Diego this spring in a rubber match? If he redeems his loss to Diego, he should get his shot back. Works also for Diego as I am sure he wants to get back on the winning track too.[/quote]
A rubber match would be a third fight, after each of them have a win over the other guy. What you are talking about is called a “rematch.”
I think Karo should be able to fight Fitch for a title shot, and even if he loses, get a title shot after Fitch gets his.
What Karo doesnt realize is his spot is not guaranteed. UFC also said that AA was next in line for HW shot and he can’t even get a fight booked now! Evans was said to have a shot by the UFC and they stopped talking about it right after the PPV was over. Karo is naive if he thinks he is next in line if he just waits. Who knows whats going to happen in all those months. If Fitch fights someone else and wins in spectacular fashion, I guarantee you Karo will be passed over. Karo is an OK fighter but not the smartest cookie.
[quote comment=”222374″]Karo does not want to fight fitch right now he wants to get his title shot that he should have had 2 years ago you cant blame him for that, and just to correct Karo he beats fitch 1 out of ten times theres no way karo beats fitch
Karos not the only one looking for an easy way, Fitch declined to fight hughes hes looking for easy road to.
its not about fighting because you love to fight anymore and you want to fight the best its about not losing so you can get the big paydays.[/quote]
You’re crazy dude. Fitch had to pass on Hughes becuase he’s out of the country. Trust me, Fitch is not ducking Hughes - I hope he gets a shot at Hughes who has no chance at simply overpowering Fitch the way he does other WWs. Karo is 100% the opposite of Fitch. Fitch says he wants to fight the best out there and doesn’t care if that includes a title fight. Karo wants to fight all the B fighters just to get a chance at a belt. I envision Karo wearing the belt around all the time like Tim Sylvia did - What a joke! Fitch would manhandle Karo and anyone who thinks Karo’s going to Judo throw Fitch is crazy! Go check out Fitch vs Burkman and Karo vs Burkman for glimpse of how they match up. I realize common opponents only go so far, but it’s a place to start. If Dana lets Karo sit and wait it out, it will be a huge injustice!
NEVER underestimate the stupifying effects of the hype machine. Karo is obviously under its spell and has shown that he hasn’t watched any of his last wins. I don’t blame him though who wants to watch 3 boring snoozefests again? With every half-hearted decision win, Karo is sinking deeper and deeper down the top 10 welterweights until one day we’ll all say “Remember Karo Parisyan? Yeah he once was a contender but lost his drive somewhere along the way but he did make a good gate keeper for all the new UFC talent though.”
I was disgusted half way through the quote and was completely appalled by the end. Mania made some great points and I couldn’t agree any more with them. Next time maybe the author will put his name down so we can thank him personally(well as personal as you can get on a blog).
Who has karo beat to deserve a title shot??????? Anyone here who thinks he deserves a title shot tell me who he beat to deserve a title shot. EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez he knows he would lose to fitch, and is scared of him, I also think kos would beat him. “Please mr.dana white give me a can so I can get the title shot I was promised back in 2005″. Karo lost his title shot as far as I’m concerned after he lost to diego, the win made diego more entitled for a title shot. Kos beat diego so then that made him more entitled than diego for a title shot and then gsp beat kos so he’s the most entitled.
He lost to sherk outside of the ufc .[quote comment=”222570″]Who has karo beat to deserve a title shot??????? Anyone here who thinks he deserves a title shot tell me who he beat to deserve a title shot. EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez he knows he would lose to fitch, and is scared of him, I also think kos would beat him. “Please mr.dana white give me a can so I can get the title shot I was promised back in 2005″. Karo lost his title shot as far as I’m concerned after he lost to diego, the win made diego more entitled for a title shot. Kos beat diego so then that made him more entitled than diego for a title shot and then gsp beat kos so he’s the most entitled.[/quote]
and in case anyone else doesnt realize this before his torn groin he was undefeated in the ufc besides the st pierre fight and gsp kod hughes..Karo almost subbed him a couple times if you watch the fight which noone probly will do.And the sanchez fight he was not in top shape still went the distance when sanchez was going through guys
[quote comment=”222580″]He lost to sherk outside of the ufc .[quote comment=”222570″]Who has karo beat to deserve a title shot??????? Anyone here who thinks he deserves a title shot tell me who he beat to deserve a title shot. EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez he knows he would lose to fitch, and is scared of him, I also think kos would beat him. “Please mr.dana white give me a can so I can get the title shot I was promised back in 2005″. Karo lost his title shot as far as I’m concerned after he lost to diego, the win made diego more entitled for a title shot. Kos beat diego so then that made him more entitled than diego for a title shot and then gsp beat kos so he’s the most entitled.[/quote]
and in case anyone else doesnt realize this before his torn groin he was undefeated in the ufc besides the st pierre fight and gsp kod hughes..Karo almost subbed him a couple times if you watch the fight which noone probly will do.And the sanchez fight he was not in top shape still went the distance when sanchez was going through guys[/quote]
Who cares if he lost outside of the UFC and almost submitted Hughes. He flat out doesn’t want to face Fitch. Fitch is 7-0 in the UFC and his last win was against Diego, who Karo lost to. If anyone should be able to wait out a title shot it should be Fitch. That said, he would NEVER do that even if it was an option.
Considering that Karo basically got screwed out of a title shot a few years ago when he got hurt right before UFC 56 then didn’t get another title shot when he got healthy I can’t get too upset at him for not wanting to lose the title shot again.
[quote comment=”222589″][quote comment=”222580″]He lost to sherk outside of the ufc .[quote comment=”222570″]Who has karo beat to deserve a title shot??????? Anyone here who thinks he deserves a title shot tell me who he beat to deserve a title shot. EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez he knows he would lose to fitch, and is scared of him, I also think kos would beat him. “Please mr.dana white give me a can so I can get the title shot I was promised back in 2005″. Karo lost his title shot as far as I’m concerned after he lost to diego, the win made diego more entitled for a title shot. Kos beat diego so then that made him more entitled than diego for a title shot and then gsp beat kos so he’s the most entitled.[/quote]
and in case anyone else doesnt realize this before his torn groin he was undefeated in the ufc besides the st pierre fight and gsp kod hughes..Karo almost subbed him a couple times if you watch the fight which noone probly will do.And the sanchez fight he was not in top shape still went the distance when sanchez was going through guys[/quote]
Who cares if he lost outside of the UFC and almost submitted Hughes. He flat out doesn’t want to face Fitch. Fitch is 7-0 in the UFC and his last win was against Diego, who Karo lost to. If anyone should be able to wait out a title shot it should be Fitch. That said, he would NEVER do that even if it was an option.[/quote]
He almost submitted gsp and that was a long time ago, gsp’s bjj has gotten much better since then, Karo needs to stop being such a pussy and man up and fight some REAL fighters.
Don’t get me wrong I think Karo is a good fighter and is exciting to watch most of the time, I just want to see him fight tough competition and stop fighting cans.
Karo is scared of Fitch bottom line. He knows Fitch would smash him
Where in the world is Diego? He needs to get back in the octagon.
A champ will willingly fight anyone to become champ. In other words ” I want the belt sooo badly because I feel I have earned it, however Fitch is pretty good, so I’ll just wait for the title shot, and IF I become Champ, I still don’t know if I can beat Fitch, but I will certainly say I can.
Sorry Karo, those are words of a non-Champ. Being the Champ means that you can beat anyone in your division. NOT knowing that there is still someone out there (maybe) better.
Anderson Silva is a True Champ cuz he IS the undisputed in his division. No one can beat him. Karo’s logic is senseless and he should examine his career full-circle and not 3/4 of it.
[quote comment=”222379″]we are talking about KARO!
dont you know WHO I AM BRO?!?!
WAIT… i mean dont you know who he is bro?!?
DONT YOU KNOW WHO HE IS BRO!?!?![/quote]
LOL
i love watching karo fight and i hate listening to him talk. i definatly agree with most of you that he doesnt deserve a title shot and neither does fitch. they should have to fight each other with the winner deserving a title shot.
[quote comment=”222626″][quote comment=”222589″][quote comment=”222580″]He lost to sherk outside of the ufc .[quote comment=”222570″]Who has karo beat to deserve a title shot??????? Anyone here who thinks he deserves a title shot tell me who he beat to deserve a title shot. EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez he knows he would lose to fitch, and is scared of him, I also think kos would beat him. “Please mr.dana white give me a can so I can get the title shot I was promised back in 2005″. Karo lost his title shot as far as I’m concerned after he lost to diego, the win made diego more entitled for a title shot. Kos beat diego so then that made him more entitled than diego for a title shot and then gsp beat kos so he’s the most entitled.[/quote]
and in case anyone else doesnt realize this before his torn groin he was undefeated in the ufc besides the st pierre fight and gsp kod hughes..Karo almost subbed him a couple times if you watch the fight which noone probly will do.And the sanchez fight he was not in top shape still went the distance when sanchez was going through guys[/quote]
Who cares if he lost outside of the UFC and almost submitted Hughes. He flat out doesn’t want to face Fitch. Fitch is 7-0 in the UFC and his last win was against Diego, who Karo lost to. If anyone should be able to wait out a title shot it should be Fitch. That said, he would NEVER do that even if it was an option.[/quote]
He almost submitted gsp and that was a long time ago, gsp’s bjj has gotten much better since then, Karo needs to stop being such a pussy and man up and fight some REAL fighters.[/quote]
Your right, good catch. I agree with you - Karo is a top notch fighter, it’s just weird to hear a legit fighter say things like that. He’s not helping his cause. Karo/Fitch is the only fight that makes sense for either of them.
I don’t blame Karo at all for his thinking, he’s right. If he does indeed have a title shot coming up in 6 months then he should wait and go for the title shot, plain and simple. Anyone else who says no is lying.
Karo’s thinking maybe just, but you have to keep that type of remark to yourself.It’s comments like he just made that give a subtle hint into the mans psyche: He basically admitted he is in fact afraid to simply lose and that will in fact cause him to be afraid to due the things he usually does well. That’s possibly the reason his last fight was, well, boring.
He’s not the #1 contender, he’s #4 behind Fitch and he will in fact have to fight Fitch in order to move up the pecking order. Good luck Karo, you’re going to need it.
[quote comment=”222403″]I’m a Karo fan, and a Fitch fan, but I’ve never heard Jon Fitch decline a fight for fear of losing. That alone gives him a higher ranking in my book. Champions don’t fear opponents.[/quote]
Umm, Fitch just declined fighting Hughes. It’s not a coincidence that the two guys that are the elite in the division (Hughes and GSP) are also the biggest gamers.
[quote post=”4067″]Karo deserves a title shot, he should not have to fight Jon Fitch for that contendership.
Look at GSP, he fought and defeated Koscheck, then he gets an automatic title shot. That is complete garbage.[/quote]
HUH??
Koscheck is way better competition than Chonan, Burkman, and Fickett. Sure Karo had a title shot way back when, but the division was weaker then, and guys like Fitch and Kos are in the mix now. IMO For anybody to get a title shot nowadays, they need a win over one of GSP, Hughes, Fitch, or Kos.
[quote post=”4067″]EVERY TIME he fights one of the big boys he loses ex gsp,sherk,sanchez[/quote]
Well, to be fair, when he lost to Sherk, Karo was a teenager lol.
What’s with Karo’s picture?.. looks like he stumbled out of a bar after last call and is about to blow chunks!
[quote comment=”222379″]we are talking about KARO!
dont you know WHO I AM BRO?!?!
WAIT… i mean dont you know who he is bro?!?
DONT YOU KNOW WHO HE IS BRO!?!?![/quote]
KARO “Don’t You Know Who The Fuck I Am!” PARISYAN
[quote comment=”222448″]Dang Mania, did Karo strike a chord with you or what?
I do believe Karo would win a fight against Fitch 8 out of 10 times, because as Karo said it the best at UFC 71 “I have the best judo throw in the world. High Five!”
Karo deserves a title shot, he should not have to fight Jon Fitch for that contendership.
Look at GSP, he fought and defeated Koscheck, then he gets an automatic title shot. That is complete garbage. When GSP defeated Koscheck we should of seen a Fitch vs. GSP for the number 1 contendership with Karo being in line to fight the winner of Hughes/Serra.
Karo has been the most overlooked welterweight for years. He has one shot, and he got injured. Shows you how much the UFC really likes Karo.
Fitch vs. Karo would be nice, but I think Fitch would just try to out-wrestle his way to victory while Karo would go 110% with his judo throws and his cardio.
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Karo should be the number 1 contender, no questions asked.
Jon Fitch is good, and his fight and victory of Deigo showed me a lot. But, Karo has been waiting in the wings for this shot for a long time and he deserves it.[/quote]
I’m pretty damn sure Fich would beat Karo 8-10 times… but’ I do think Karo deserves a title shot, he’s always overlooked because at critical times with a few top contenders he’s lost. Karo was a better fighter than Diego S. when they fought .. but his cardio pooped. I’m not sure he can, match some fighters cardio for a 5 round fight even if he trains right… I do think he can go 3 rounds with the right training though.