Sounds pretty painful. I’m not a Serra fan but I do hope he recovers soon so we don’t have two belts floating around for too long. I just hope that down the line we actually get to see Serra and Hughes go at it. They did a pretty good job at hyping the fight and these two seem to genuinely dislike each other. Once GSP beats Hughes and then beats Serra, that might pave the way to see that fight actually happen as a number one contender’s match at some point.

Gotta be karma. Maybe if he would’a shut his mouth this wouldn’t have happened.

Then again, it is a combat sport… :/

since he does not have a history of calling off fights because of injury, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. hughes fought with a worse injury against gracie, and I’m sure other fighters have fought injured but serra gets a mulligan.

[quote comment=”218983″]since he does not have a history of calling off fights because of injury, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. hughes fought with a worse injury against gracie, and I’m sure other fighters have fought injured but serra gets a mulligan.[/quote]

I guess… but at the end of the day, the back is something you do not take chances with, it’s one thing missing time through injury, it another altogether if your final days involve someone else wiping your ass for you!

…wonder if any of the ring girls need extra cash

trying to be a show off.never works dumb ass. yo my back!!now get me some pizza pie

Conference call with Dana, Matt Hughes and GSP, not bad.

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/serialized-mce-pierre-1929889-hughes-serra

Man this sucks. Serra is one of the guys I always root for, but he may neve come back, and I am pretty much 100% positive that we will never see Hughes vs. Serra.

MY BACK BRO!!!! Bro its my bro-ken back-bro-ne bro. lol

I can’t stand Serra, but I hope he recovers all right. The back is nothing to play around with.

[quote comment=”218983″]since he does not have a history of calling off fights because of injury, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. hughes fought with a worse injury against gracie, and I’m sure other fighters have fought injured but serra gets a mulligan.[/quote]

Hughes was not hurt as bad as Serra is. Two herniated disks is a fairly big deal. Chances are if you have to have your brother put on your shoes for you , then fighting MATT HUGHES might not be such a good idea.

Give the guy a break. He is hurt, what the hell do u want the man to do, walk to the ring with a cane, and then try and fight Hughes. he has two herniated disc in his back, that will probably require surgery. How the hell do u think he feels now that Dana is giving away interim belts like they are candy. Trust me the man would have fought if he could, he is champion of the world. Maybe if Dana didnt make him wait a freakin year to fight again, this wouldnt have happened. Serra is a great guy. You guys hate on him cuz he curses or talks shit about Hughes! Come on! He genuinly hate Hughes, but a lot of it is entertainment for the show. Hehas the title, Hughes was talking trash about him and how he doesnt deserve that belt, way before Serra said anything about him. I am happy he started running his mouth back at Hughes.

I would never wish this on any fighter especially a champion. Injuries happen in all sports, many athletes miss “the big game” due to injuries. WTF!

I only wish the best for Matt Serra’s back. Back pain is something to take seriously. Let’s just hope that while he’s laying down in bed recuperating, that he has a cornerman right next to his bed constantly telling him to “BREEEEEATH Matty, that’s it, BREEATH”.

Quick Question: Say that GSP was not the champion when he fought Matt Serra, and the fight still went exactly as it did. Where would Matt Serra be ranked? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

OR if he weren’t to get injured and fought and lost the belt to Hughes on the 29th by decision, where would you rank Matt Serra? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

I think that it is rather interesting. Once/IF a few people respond, I will comment on my opinion. Thanks.

yeah i am a huge hughes fan, and actually dont care a whole lot for matt serra. but after the initial shock of not having the fight kinda wore off, it made me feel for serra. i just hate to see any fighter get hurt, wish him the best on his way to recovery and hope it will be a speady one.

Serra is what I love about MMA..he has crazy BJJ..he is hard noise type of MMA fighter..gutsy..has heart..his a NewOrker and his own personality..I was so let down as a fan to to see this match..but I’m a Serra Fan..him and his brother Nick were my first BJJ instuctors when I wanted to learn BJJ at Renzo’s..so hey I’m bias. It is what it is..he is the ufc ww champ..Hughes vs GsP is going to be an insane fight i hope..but it shouldn’t be a title fight so soon after Serra gets hurt..in Combat Sports Injuries are definite..Champs have been hurt before for months without seeing this interim deal..a la Rich Franklin..and I don’t care how stacked the WW division is..treat the champs the same all across the board..be consistent..is my belief. If Serra will be out for the entire fiscal year of ‘08..then yeah set up a interim title match with the number 1&2..they’re setting it up the same week he got hurt.

[quote comment=”218972″]Gotta be karma. Maybe if he would’a shut his mouth this wouldn’t have happened.

Then again, it is a combat sport… :/[/quote]

Karma apply to actions not opinons !

[quote post=”4018″]”BREEEEEATH Matty, that’s it, BREEATH”.[/quote]
LoL, that’s exactly what he says!

[quote post=”4018″]since he does not have a history of calling off fights because of injury, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. hughes fought with a worse injury against gracie, and I’m sure other fighters have fought injured but serra gets a mulligan. [/quote]

You can’t fight with 2 herniated discs mate. Come on!

I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”

[quote comment=”219012″]Conference call with Dana, Matt Hughes and GSP, not bad.

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/serialized-mce-pierre-1929889-hughes-serra/quote

Lol.. Dana said he still hasn’t talked with Randy and everyone thinks Matt Serra is looking for an easy way and is not a skilled opponent..good listen

[quote comment=”219037″]I only wish the best for Matt Serra’s back. Back pain is something to take seriously. Let’s just hope that while he’s laying down in bed recuperating, that he has a cornerman right next to his bed constantly telling him to “BREEEEEATH Matty, that’s it, BREEATH”.

Quick Question: Say that GSP was not the champion when he fought Matt Serra, and the fight still went exactly as it did. Where would Matt Serra be ranked? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

OR if he weren’t to get injured and fought and lost the belt to Hughes on the 29th by decision, where would you rank Matt Serra? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

I think that it is rather interesting. Once/IF a few people respond, I will comment on my opinion. Thanks.[/quote]

Well on your scenarios my thoughts are..Q1) Gsp is considered 1of the best Pound per Pound fighter in the world today even if he hadn’t fought and beat Hughhes b4 losing to Serra. So when Serra TK’od Gsp this would of put Serra in at least the Top 7th or 8th ww in the world. ex: Forrest vs Shogun

Q2) If Serra would of lost by a decision(5rounds)..I’m bias cuz I’m a serra fan..but if went all 5rounds with ” he is the greatest ww champ ever “..I would still have Serra in my Top10.

I have a degenerative disc in my lower back, and before I learned how to manage it to avoid aggravating it, it was the most painful thing I’ve ever experienced. Eight years’ worth of rugby injuries (severe ligament and tendon damage in my wrist and elbow, separated shoulder, broken foot, a concussion or two) and I never blinked. But when your lower back/discs are botched, Serra’s right, the shoes and socks are a chore to say the least. He probably can’t even stand up straight right now, much less fight.

I hope he can recover and get to defend his title. As someone who has had two back surgeries from 3 herniated discs, I know what he’s going through. There is absolutely no way he should even attempt to fight with an injury like that.

[quote comment=”219037″]
Quick Question: Say that GSP was not the champion when he fought Matt Serra, and the fight still went exactly as it did. Where would Matt Serra be ranked? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

OR if he weren’t to get injured and fought and lost the belt to Hughes on the 29th by decision, where would you rank Matt Serra? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

I think that it is rather interesting. Once/IF a few people respond, I will comment on my opinion. Thanks.[/quote]

If GSP was not the champ when he fought Serra than I would assume that Hughes beat GSP (At UFC 65) in you hypothetical scenario. This would put GSP at ranked 2 in my opinion (Hughes being #1). If Serra than beat GSP the way he did at UFC 69, I would put Serra in the Top 5, and GSP would drop out of the Top 3 having lost 2 in a row.

If Serra then fought Hughes (for the belt) and lost, I would still keep him in the top 5 until a rematch with GSP. 2 wins against GSP puts him in the Top 3.

Again thats hypothetical.

Breathe Serra, Breathe. You’ve been here before, bro.

I say Serra is top ten material, but only by a bit.What was he ranked before the GSP fight? There are several fighters currently that would have their way with Serra.

[quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]
and “your pickn him apart!”

Some of you may want to read the wiki entry about herniated discs. The gist of the injury is that when you lift improperly (e.g. with a bent back), the jelly cushion in your spine can burst out of its membrane and spill out, possibly touching/compressing your spinal nerves and causing some bad chemical inflammation.

I have never experienced this injury, but from the sound of things, it really puts you out of commission for at least 2-3 months. For an elite athlete, the healing process probably takes much longer, and then you have to consider the re-training process. I’m guessing that even without surgery, and in a best case scenario, Serra would need at least 6 months to get ready to fight again. It sounds like he also has Sciatica, since he reported severe pain in his legs, so the hernation probably touched upon his spinal nerves.

I’m not a Serra fan, and I laughed at all the cornering jokes, but I definitely feel bad for him and I was looking forward to Hughes fighting Serra. Ideally, GSP will beat Hughes and Serra, and then Hughes can fight Serra to get back into contention.

If Joe Scarola filled in to fight Hughes at 79, now that would have been a fight. Record PPV numbers for sure. Fine, I guess we’ll settle for GSP for now.

As disappointing as this is, anyone who’s had back injuries knows this isn’t something you can fight through. Six years of rugby with a bulging disk…I’ve had more than my fair share of wearing flip-flops because I couldn’t get socks on or tie my shoes.

[quote comment=”219055″][quote comment=”219012″]Conference call with Dana, Matt Hughes and GSP, not bad.

http://www.ocregister.com/sports/serialized-mce-pierre-1929889-hughes-serra/quote

Lol.. Dana said he still hasn’t talked with Randy and everyone thinks Matt Serra is looking for an easy way and is not a skilled opponent..good listen[/quote]

STILL more BS with THIS randy and DANA stuff, jeeze, last ufc in nj Rogan and dumb dumb didn’t even mention that randy was cornering in a fight in the main card while we all heard Randy’s voice, and randy didn’t seeem like he was allowed in the cage , and no one wore xtreme cotoure on their clothes and or shorts…the black balled randy….and that DANA has not talked to randy after randy said he wanted to talk is just classic randy perhaps disney head Eisner will ask tough questions this wed on msnbc…yeah right

[quote post=”4018″]Hehas the title, and that Hughes was talking trash about him and how he doesnt deserve that belt, way before Serra said anything about him. I am happy he started running his mouth back at Hughes.[/quote]

that is STILL such crap. Hughes gave his opinion that Serra wasn’t in the top 5 even after winning the belt. that’s not trash talk. MOST fighters and fight fans agreed with Hughes. but apparently if Hughes tells what he feels is the truth, he gets crucified for it. But if bitchy little Sarah tells his “truth” (”ya know, not bein’ an ass or anything
as he likes to say), he’s just “sayin’ it like it is”. Well guess what - Sarah still ain’t in the top 5. Just sayin’ it like it is.

he’s simply a little man with a big chip on his shoulder and an easily bruised ego to match.

[quote comment=”219037″]I only wish the best for Matt Serra’s back. Back pain is something to take seriously. Let’s just hope that while he’s laying down in bed recuperating, that he has a cornerman right next to his bed constantly telling him to “BREEEEEATH Matty, that’s it, BREEATH”.

Quick Question: Say that GSP was not the champion when he fought Matt Serra, and the fight still went exactly as it did. Where would Matt Serra be ranked? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

OR if he weren’t to get injured and fought and lost the belt to Hughes on the 29th by decision, where would you rank Matt Serra? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

I think that it is rather interesting. Once/IF a few people respond, I will comment on my opinion. Thanks.[/quote]

ViolentMike: THat is an excellent question. To be honest I would have ranked him in the bottom half of the top 10. He has a shot against anyone at 170. He had Karo rocked a few years back. His ju jitsu is probably the best out of anyone in the top 10 of the WW division (I am not counting BJ Penn as a welterweight). I think he would have put up a great fight against hughes, I really do. He would be no match for Fitch, but I think he could beat Koschek. I would have liked to see Serra vs. Diego…that would be an awesome grappling match.

Good question Mike!

[quote comment=”219151″][quote post=”4018″]Hehas the title, and that Hughes was talking trash about him and how he doesnt deserve that belt, way before Serra said anything about him. I am happy he started running his mouth back at Hughes.[/quote]

that is STILL such crap. Hughes gave his opinion that Serra wasn’t in the top 5 even after winning the belt. that’s not trash talk. MOST fighters and fight fans agreed with Hughes. but apparently if Hughes tells what he feels is the truth, he gets crucified for it. But if bitchy little Sarah tells his “truth” (”ya know, not bein’ an ass or anything
as he likes to say), he’s just “sayin’ it like it is”. Well guess what - Sarah still ain’t in the top 5. Just sayin’ it like it is.

he’s simply a little man with a big chip on his shoulder and an easily bruised ego to match.[/quote]

That’s comming from the mouth of the 6′4 Matt Hughes! Anderson Silva was quatoed as saying “Matt Hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself”! Its the opposite…Hughes gets away wit everything, now Serra started talking back and u all want to crucify Serra!

[quote comment=”219041″]Serra is what I love about MMA..he has crazy BJJ..he is hard noise type of MMA fighter..gutsy..has heart..his a NewOrker and his own personality..I was so let down as a fan to to see this match..but I’m a Serra Fan..him and his brother Nick were my first BJJ instuctors when I wanted to learn BJJ at Renzo’s..so hey I’m bias. It is what it is..he is the ufc ww champ..Hughes vs GsP is going to be an insane fight i hope..but it shouldn’t be a title fight so soon after Serra gets hurt..in Combat Sports Injuries are definite..Champs have been hurt before for months without seeing this interim deal..a la Rich Franklin..and I don’t care how stacked the WW division is..treat the champs the same all across the board..be consistent..is my belief. If Serra will be out for the entire fiscal year of ‘08..then yeah set up a interim title match with the number 1&2..they’re setting it up the same week he got hurt.[/quote]

Very well put Phil!

[quote comment=”219070″][quote comment=”219037″]I only wish the best for Matt Serra’s back. Back pain is something to take seriously. Let’s just hope that while he’s laying down in bed recuperating, that he has a cornerman right next to his bed constantly telling him to “BREEEEEATH Matty, that’s it, BREEATH”.

Quick Question: Say that GSP was not the champion when he fought Matt Serra, and the fight still went exactly as it did. Where would Matt Serra be ranked? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

OR if he weren’t to get injured and fought and lost the belt to Hughes on the 29th by decision, where would you rank Matt Serra? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

I think that it is rather interesting. Once/IF a few people respond, I will comment on my opinion. Thanks.[/quote]

Well on your scenarios my thoughts are..Q1) Gsp is considered 1of the best Pound per Pound fighter in the world today even if he hadn’t fought and beat Hughhes b4 losing to Serra. So when Serra TK’od Gsp this would of put Serra in at least the Top 7th or 8th ww in the world. ex: Forrest vs Shogun

Q2) If Serra would of lost by a decision(5rounds)..I’m bias cuz I’m a serra fan..but if went all 5rounds with ” he is the greatest ww champ ever “..I would still have Serra in my Top10.[/quote]

Thanks a lot for answering Phil, Ragnarr, and John - much appreciated. This is how I see it.

Scenario 1) A KO win over GSP is still a KO win over GSP. No matter what, this win would have changed the landslide of the WW division. Matt Serra would HAVE to be ranked in the lower-mid portion of the Top 5, being 4th or even 3rd. Remember, Fitch did not have his win over Diego yet (so must didn’t consider him top 5 then {but I did}), and he would have leap frogged Kos in my opinion with a win over GSP.

And in Scenario 2) If Serra was to take Hughes to a decision, I think it would prove to the nay-sayers that his win against GSP wasn’t a fluke. Taking Hughes the distance in a 5 round fight would actually put Serra at #4. Behind only GSP, Hughes and Fitch. If this scenario were to have played out, Serra vs Karo would have been a great re-match to decide the next #1 contender. That is, provided that Fitch is automatically considered the #1 cotender to face the winner of Hughes/GSP.

[quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]

LOL

There you go, there you go. NIIIIIIICE comment. NICE comment there GriffyFan!

[quote comment=”219110″][quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]
and “your pickn him apart!”[/quote]

Haha. Absolutely. And “What did we go over in practice Joey”

[quote comment=”219218″][quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]

LOL

There you go, there you go. NIIIIIIICE comment. NICE comment there GriffyFan!

[quote comment=”219110″][quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]
and “your pickn him apart!”[/quote]

Haha. Absolutely. And “What did we go over in practice Joey”[/quote]

on the down low..after Joey Tpas..Serra blurts out. ” Fk’n Pussy”…it was like ” You better not tap Joey..you better not tap…F’kn Pussy..it thought that was funny.

I heard Serra realy didn’t hurt his back, he just gained all the extra weight that RAY LONGO couldn’t burden anymore…..
WHat’s up with this RAY LONGO the guy looks hudge like he once weighed over 500lbs??

[quote comment=”219225″][quote comment=”219218″][quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]

LOL

There you go, there you go. NIIIIIIICE comment. NICE comment there GriffyFan!

[quote comment=”219110″][quote comment=”219047″]I forgot to mention, “there you go, there you go, NIIIIICE!”[/quote]
and “your pickn him apart!”[/quote]

Haha. Absolutely. And “What did we go over in practice Joey”[/quote]

on the down low..after Joey Tpas..Serra blurts out. ” Fk’n Pussy”…it was like ” You better not tap Joey..you better not tap…F’kn Pussy..it thought that was funny.[/quote]

I LOVED Serra talking shit at the end of Pussy’s fight, oooops, I mean Scarola’s fight.

[quote comment=”219016″]MY BACK BRO!!!! Bro its my bro-ken back-bro-ne bro. lol[/quote]

you’re a dick.. LMAO…

[quote post=”4018″]”Matt Hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself”![/quote]

…so in Sarah’s world I guess that means:

- Anderson Silva has now “disrespected” Matt Hughes and is thus an arrogant pri*k.
- Matt Hughes now gets to emulate Sarah and be an obsessed little girl, saying anything he wants about Silva, all the time claiming “He called me a DWARF so HE started it!”
- lame, lame, lame.

i didn’t mean Sarah was a little man in the physical sense. he’s little in that he is mean-spirited, vindictive, and jealous. and yes, he’s a decent coach, but he’s still a punk who can’t get over the jocks picking on him in school and Shoney Carter’s backfist.
.
i have no need to crucify Sarah - he does that to himself every Wednesday night and either Hughes or GSP will pound in the nails very soon….that is, as long as Sarah doesn’t hurt himself again and retire “with the belt”.

HEY DONT TAZE ME BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote comment=”219033″]Give the guy a break. He is hurt, what the hell do u want the man to do, walk to the ring with a cane, and then try and fight Hughes. he has two herniated disc in his back, that will probably require surgery. How the hell do u think he feels now that Dana is giving away interim belts like they are candy. Trust me the man would have fought if he could, he is champion of the world. Maybe if Dana didnt make him wait a freakin year to fight again, this wouldnt have happened. Serra is a great guy. You guys hate on him cuz he curses or talks shit about Hughes! Come on! He genuinly hate Hughes, but a lot of it is entertainment for the show. Hehas the title, Hughes was talking trash about him and how he doesnt deserve that belt, way before Serra said anything about him. I am happy he started running his mouth back at Hughes.

I would never wish this on any fighter especially a champion. Injuries happen in all sports, many athletes miss “the big game” due to injuries. WTF![/quote]

FOR REALS!!

Serra’s a pussy. He acted like a punk wioth Hughes and he got what he deserved. He is a middle of the pack lightweight that got lucky and he is trying to stretch out his 15 minutes of fame.

Hairybuddha wonders how come he comment wasn’t approved by the moderator?

Hairybuddha will re-comment then. Hairybuddha knows that the above story of how Serra injured his back is wrong. Hairybuddha has an unimpeachable source that Serra injured his back when he fell out of the stirrups at his gynecologist’s office.

[quote comment=”219535″]Serra’s a pussy. He acted like a punk wioth Hughes and he got what he deserved. He is a middle of the pack lightweight that got lucky and he is trying to stretch out his 15 minutes of fame.[/quote]

Do you think this what with Serra/Hughes would of happened already with Dana didn’t call both of them to be coaches and then fight after the reality show was taped..edited..aired..promoted..all that time wasn’t cuz Serra wanted not fight a Hughes or GsP..it was cuz of Dana.

If you believe Serra is pussy..then Gsp got tKo’d by a pussy..what does that say about Gsp??

Lucky = preparation opportunity

If that’s the case I give Serra major props..he is a pussy..who won the comeback season of tuf..had the balls to step in the octagon and get lucky against pound per pound considered one of the best fighter’s in the world.

I don’t wish an injury like that to no1…lay off the Serra Hatorade.

sarah seems to live on Hatorade - Hughes flavor. he’s like the little dog in the cartoons hopping all over and around the big dog - yap, yap, hammafist!, yap!

he’s a whiny, lucky, bitch.

thankfully, he’ll soon be gone and will only be remembered for his best UFC contribution - the recipient of Shonie Carter’s backfist.

[quote comment=”220210″]sarah seems to live on Hatorade - Hughes flavor. he’s like the little dog in the cartoons hopping all over and around the big dog - yap, yap, hammafist!, yap!

he’s a whiny, lucky, bitch.

thankfully, he’ll soon be gone and will only be remembered for his best UFC contribution - the recipient of Shonie Carter’s backfist.[/quote]
whos sarah??? whos she fighting? Serra?

“sarah” is how “serra” is actually spelled - it comes from Latin, meaning, “whiny, lucky, bitch.”

AKA U know nothing about him and spelled his name wrong!!

yeah, that’s it puppydog.

Sarah! LOL. go back to the WWF wrestling websight where u know something. everybody can see u have nooooo clue what ur talking about! Funny… ur going to trash the champ on the internet when ur probley 50 pounds over weight and couldnt make it thru a mile jog! Sarah? LOL!!

[quote comment=”218983″]since he does not have a history of calling off fights because of injury, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. hughes fought with a worse injury against gracie, and I’m sure other fighters have fought injured but serra gets a mulligan.[/quote]

This injury is no joke. I will be really suprised if he fights in the UFC again.

well all I can say is I’m pretty disappointed that it won’t be happening. I agree with Serra with a lot of things he is saying about Matt Hughs.
Anyway Matty get healed up bro and come back stronger then ever in the new year and put M.H. in his rightful place dude.

Serra is a JOKE!! He got sooooo lucky and will always be remembered as someone who got lucky. (if hes remembered at all)
I don’t think we will see him again if the UFC. He talks big but its nothing a spining backfist can’t fix!LOL