i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.
Lidell is all done. You cant stop Wanderlei. Nevermind the fact that he has been training this entire time with Couture. Im sorry but Chuck is gonna retire after he gets his ass beat after this one.
Couture will have established the best game plan for Wanderlei. I see Wandy going all the way to the top to fight Rampage. And with Couture in his corner I really think he is a big threat to Rampage.
That will be the biggest “F You” to the UFC from Randy. Randy’s guy holding the belt. lol. Then you could even bring Randy back to fight him. haha. Never happen but you could pull off tons of stuff. Rematch with Shogun is he gets his act together. A lot of big fights in the light heavyweight division.
I think it would be best for both fighters if Liddell won. Silva is young enough that he’ll fight another day and get more wins. I think if Liddell loses, it’ll be tough for him to want to get back in there.
I think 79 could be so much better. It did look promising. I wish the Guida Huerta fight was on it. I see it for free so it makes no difference if it is on the UFN or the PPV.
Silva is friends with randy and it seems silva is pretty confident that randy will be back with the UFC, They probably will wait for a ufc event so they can make a big announcement that Cotoure is back.
Wanderlie will win via unanimous decision to bad its not a 5 rounder
Obviously Randy will be back. I think Silva just dropped it and let us all know Randy has sorted his tiff out with the UFC.
In regards to the fight, I am still really unsure. If Chuck is to win he will need to come out like he did against, Vernon White, Babalu, you know, the ‘iceman’, cool agression. Chuck has looked like a B grade fight in his last two fights and it doesnt suit him.
I just hope they both bring their A game. I can not wait.
[quote comment=”214513″]kind of funny that these guys train in my hometown yet I never see any of them[/quote]
Las Vegas is huge and filled with millions of freaks. It does not suprise me that you have not crossed paths with either of them. I’m sure that Wanderlei has been spending a lot of time training as of late, and hasn’t been going out too much.
Up until recently, I thought that Wandi would walk through Chuck with his agressive and chaotic tactics; but I have had a change of heart. I think Chuck’s counterstriking style matches up really well. I see him backing up, siddling the cage when Wandi rushes in with strikes, then picking his shots. I could be wrong and it is a tough fight to call just because both fighters have grenades for punches
War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
[quote comment=”214443″]He’s gonna get knocked the f%$^ out just like Randy did.[/quote]
Yeah how many fights ago was that, not to mention a different wieght class. Randy Couture is a “natural’ heavywieght. So what if Chuck knocked him out.
[quote comment=”214442″]It was kind off cool to hear him speak english, that was the first time for me. Anyways I think the Chuck and Wanderlei fight will be a 3 round war.[/quote]
I was suprised as hell to hear him speak English… sounds like he’s been speaking it for awhile and is now probably more confident to use it and should cause he’s fighting in America.
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
your right this fight is not going to a decision one of them is getting knocked out.your also right about wandy not losing to a guy like jardine.
[quote comment=”214558″]Up until recently, I thought that Wandi would walk through Chuck with his agressive and chaotic tactics; but I have had a change of heart. I think Chuck’s counterstriking style matches up really well. I see him backing up, siddling the cage when Wandi rushes in with strikes, then picking his shots. I could be wrong and it is a tough fight to call just because both fighters have grenades for punches[/quote]
That’s pretty much the way I see it…. Chuck KO’s Wandy
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
Nice post The Saint. Anderson Silva has been in the USA and held the belt for waaaay longer than Wanderlei has even lived in the states. Anderson sill doesn’t even attempt to speak English. So instead of making fun of Wanderlei, we should be admiring and thanking him for his dedication to be a mma star in the usa, and to make the usa his new home.
I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon.
ViolentMike: u r correct if wandy is down after 2 rds he goes ballz out. Wanderlei is by far the most aggressive fighter that I have ever seen. He is tough as nails. He has been rocked, but his recovery is amazing. If I had to pay to watch one fighter, it would probably be wanderlei, I am not saying he is the best, but he guarentees ACTION, and a lot of it. No way in hell that the fight will yo to a decision, someone is getting KO’ed, and with wandy training with couture, I think wandy will win, he will overwhelm chuck, catch him in the tai clinch and nighty night to the iceman.
Also any one noticed that Randy cornered Karo against chonan, and Hendo cornered Chonan. Randy was trying to hide it seemed like. Is there a rift between the natural and hendo?
UFCMANIA please keep us popsted on if Randy will defend his title against Big Nog
also is the Soko vs. Machida match official for the Nemesis card?
[quote post=”3963″]Nice post The Saint. Anderson Silva has been in the USA and held the belt for waaaay longer than Wanderlei has even lived in the states. Anderson sill doesn’t even attempt to speak English. So instead of making fun of Wanderlei, we should be admiring and thanking him for his dedication to be a mma star in the usa, and to make the usa his new home.
I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon.[/quote]
I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? Anderson Silva does not live in the US, he lives in Curitiba, Brazil. Why should he take time from training to make you guys happy?
On a second note, wandy got trainers from brazil getting him ready, couture didn’t even train with him. Why do ppl keep saying that now that he is at couture’s corner nothing can go wrong because randy is going to give him a good plan to go by? He’s not being trained by Couture you guys, he is only using his gym.
[quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!! I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
I like both fighters!!! “this fight no go to judges”
If I had to pick a winner, I’d go with Wanderlei, even though I’m a huge Liddell fan…I just think Chucks time is up, I read in a playboy article that his shoulders and knees are messed up and he has to ice them down everyday for several hours, I dunno. I’ll be pulling for the Iceman, but either way it should be an awesome fight!
[quote comment=”214642″][quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.[/quote]
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.
[quote post=”3963″] I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps???
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.[/quote]
yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
but to show good gesture is just not enough, remember also how many non-japanese fighters fought in pride, and pretty much none knew japanese (including american fighters).
I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps???
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.[/quote]
yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
but to show good gesture is just not enough, remember also how many non-japanese fighters fought in pride, and pretty much none knew japanese (including american fighters).[/quote]
[quote comment=”214449″]Lidell is all done. You cant stop Wanderlei. Nevermind the fact that he has been training this entire time with Couture. Im sorry but Chuck is gonna retire after he gets his ass beat after this one.
Couture will have established the best game plan for Wanderlei. I see Wandy going all the way to the top to fight Rampage. And with Couture in his corner I really think he is a big threat to Rampage.
Dude.. he is a huge threat to Quinton without Randy
Linx, come on man, I remember many Brazilian fighters and a few Americans who atleast said a few lines of Japanese. It was mainly Thank you but still it is the best thing to do ESPECIALLY if you are employed by a foreign company. You open up a McDonalds in France you are going to learn some French. Don’t believe me, watch Pulp Ficition again.
[quote comment=”214396″]i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.[/quote]
randy wandy? that would be dandy
How can people be sa[quote comment=”214396″]i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.[/quote]
How can people be saying this is a crap card? This is the best card I’ve seen in a while! Wandi vs Chuck!? No way that is going to a decision. The last fight of Wandi’s that I remember seeing go to the judges was when he faught Arona and that was cause arona took him down and grappled with him. Chuck is not going to do that.
And Serra vs Hughes? THis fight I do have to say, has the ability to be boring just because Hughes is in it. His last fight with lytle was one of the most boring fights i’ve seen.
And Machidaq vs SOko? Awsome!
[quote comment=”214642″][quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.[/quote]
Im lost here you all say you are mma fans, first off anderson silva spoke a little english after he beat up franklin for the second time! so to say he is not trying to learn english is just plain stupid. Plus dana clearly said to him after the fight that he was the best pound for pound fighter in the world, again a bit pointless if the guy wouldnt understand dana? he is obviously getting to grips with the language guys!!!
Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? some very strange and contraversial statements guys, its the fight game, anybody is capable of winning any fight, bar none! Great fighters just win more thats all.
Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!! If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for? Its gony be a great fight and a great card, i personally cant wait for it!!
Well done dana white aswell, it took long enough but its finally gony happen. Cmon chuck!! hard one to call tho could either way, im swaying for chuck tho, hel be back to his best!!
[quote post=”3963″]yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.[/quote]
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.
[quote post=”3963″]How can people be saying this is a crap card? This is the best card I’ve seen in a while![/quote]
No doubt. The only people who won’t link this card are people that have either A) never watched MMA B)Prefer watching old Care Bear cartoons C) Have less understanding of a good fight card than Fedor has understanding of a good manager
i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.
Mo said, “Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? ”
Ok MO, Griffin has nothing to do with this conversation as Chuck or Wandy for that matter haven’t fought Griffin. The context of the comment was that Liddell LOST to Jardine and in my opinion Wandy wouldn’t have lost that fight. Is it possible for Wandy to lose that fight? Sure, but is it likely? Not at all. If Wandy was in trouble he would have taken Jardine to the ground, something that Chuck couldn’t and wouldn’t do obviously.
Mo also said, “Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!!”
I don’t think it is all hate as much as it is opinion. Just because I believe Chuck will lose doesn’t make me a hater. To say we can’t have our opinions is silly. Don’t take this so personal, its not like Chuck is paying you with any of his earnings.
Finally Mo said, “If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for?”
I believe most here DO want to see this fight, that is why we are talking it up. Okay I got you down for Chuck. Let the record show that it is Wandy all the way for the Saint.
[quote comment=”214774″]i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.[/quote]
thats why we fight-em.we’ll see!
[quote comment=”214797″]Mo said, “Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? ”
Ok MO, Griffin has nothing to do with this conversation as Chuck or Wandy for that matter haven’t fought Griffin. The context of the comment was that Liddell LOST to Jardine and in my opinion Wandy wouldn’t have lost that fight. Is it possible for Wandy to lose that fight? Sure, but is it likely? Not at all. If Wandy was in trouble he would have taken Jardine to the ground, something that Chuck couldn’t and wouldn’t do obviously.
Mo also said, “Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!!”
I don’t think it is all hate as much as it is opinion. Just because I believe Chuck will lose doesn’t make me a hater. To say we can’t have our opinions is silly. Don’t take this so personal, its not like Chuck is paying you with any of his earnings.
Finally Mo said, “If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for?”
I believe most here DO want to see this fight, that is why we are talking it up. Okay I got you down for Chuck. Let the record show that it is Wandy all the way for the Saint.[/quote]
Cool i agree with you on a few counts here, but this wasnt all directed at you, there are a lot of chuck haters, and for that matter also wandi haters. Further its easy after a fighter has lost a fight to predict what another fighter would have done, hell if it was that easy id be champ!! its not tho, yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.
I dont disagree with people having opinions that is also rediculous my friend! As its only my opinion on what im reading also. For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?! I think we will see a better chuck liddell in this fight, its the fight i think he wants, and also needs.
[quote comment=”214774″]i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.[/quote]
Tito has already beaten wandy? In my opinion he wouldnt “kill” rampage now either, hes a different and improved fighter now. I honestly think it will be a great fight tho
Wow, his english is getting so much better. I understood 99% of what he said here. When I heard him speak before moving to Vegas I could only understand about 60% of what he was saying.
YAY!!! He is going to keel Chuck, hehehe… no, I like Chuck too, but go Wandy!
Much improved English! Keep it up Wandy. I feel bad for saying this but I think Chuck’s career is in grave danger. If Wandy has any chin left after Hendo knocked it off, I see him winning this fight by TKO.
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
love what you’ve got to say! i’m also sick and tired of people critisizing wanderleis’ english. he’s learned alot in a short period of time. i know i couldn’t learn porteguese that fast. and about the fight, everyone compares the accompplishments of wanderlei and chuck. think about it. wanderlei was pride 205lbs champ for 6yrs and yet he’s only 31yrs old. chuck was a good champ but now he’s what 38yrs old. chuck hasn’t thrown a kick in his last 2 fights. wanderlei is in his prime, even though he has a ton of experience. I SEE WANDERLEI DESTROYING CHUCK FIRST, THAN DESTROYING RAMPAGE FOR THE 3RD TIME! i don’t think chuck will have an answer for wanderleis’ knees,kicks,and a flurry of agressive punches. i say wanderlei KO’S chuck in the 2nd rd. i can’t wait,having been a big wanderlei silva fan for many yrs.NO ONE IS MORE EXPLOSIVE THAN WANDERLEI SILVA!
if anyone had guts enough to tell wanderlei he looks like a monkey, he’d problably take it as a compliment because,THEM BATTLE SCARS BABY! FROM VALE TUDO TO PRIDE TO THE UFC, WANDERLEI’S BEEN FIGHTING HIS WHOLE LIFE! THE EARS,THE SCARS,ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT HE’S A GAME FIGHTER WHO WOULD NEVER BACK DOWN FROM ANYONE! ONLY 31YRS. OLD! 205LBS FIGHTERS BEWARE, THERE’S A NEW SHERRIFF IN TOWN AND HE’S LOOKING FOR YOU, MOTHER F***ERS!
ok guys …everyone is thinking wandy is gonna win this easily..its really a 50/50% chance , theres so many upsets this years who knows mayb chuck will get a lucky punch and knock wandy out.. like gonzaga and cro cop
[quote post=”3963″]yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.[/quote]
I agree. When I show another side to an argument, the original posters often take offense to it, why? - I have no idea. This is a forum. They act like I am ‘attacking’ them or something, and then they’ll next say something dumb about my mom or something, lol. Some people need to grow up. But you Linx, thanks for showing your maturity and ability to look at another side of a story/arguement.
[quote post=”3963″]Im lost here you all say you are mma fans, first off anderson silva spoke a little english after he beat up franklin for the second time! so to say he is not trying to learn english is just plain stupid. [/quote]
Umm, First off, an opinion on how good somoene’s English has NOTHING to do with whether or not I am an MMA fan. And you’re right that after the Franlin fight, Silva RECITED a tiny bit of English. He simply memorized what he was going to say. What exactly did he say anyway? I’m sure it wasn’t much more than “Rich is good fighter. Thank you Ohio”. I am 99.999% certain that if I walked up to Anderson Silva that he would not be capable of holding a conversation with me. On the other hand, if I walked up to Wanderlei Silva, we’d easily be able to hold a coversation. Knowing/learning a language is a lot different than memorizing a sentence. I can memorize a sentence in any language. That doesn’t mean that I can speak those languages.
[quote post=”3963″]Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!! If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for? Its gony be a great fight and a great card, i personally cant wait for it!![/quote]
I have never been a BIG fan of Chuck. The UFC fed him perfect opponents stylistically for him. Jeremy Horn hadn’t fought in the UFC for how long, and they bring him in for an immediate title shot againt Chuck? Of course I rooted for Chuck in both fights against Tito, and his fight against Vernon White, but other than those 3 fights, I haven’t even rooted for Chuck during his title run.
I don’t believe a single person said that they don’t want to see this fight. People have wanted to see this fight for about 5 years now.
[quote post=”3963″]Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? some very strange and contraversial statements guys, its the fight game, anybody is capable of winning any fight, bar none! Great fighters just win more thats all.[/quote]
I am not totally sure what you are tring to say here, but as far as saying that Wandi would never get beat by Jardine, MY exact comment was:
[quote post=”3963″]I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon. [/quote]
“i’m also sick and tired of people critisizing wanderleis’ english.”
I agree with Jel. Some of you barely speak and write English better than Wand. Everyone else around the world speaks 3 and 4 languages, including English. Wand is from the very bottom social class in Brazil, and yet he knows English and some Japanese, too. For those of you who are condescendingly remarking on his accent–how many languages do YOU speak?
[quote post=”3963″] yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.
I agree. When I show another side to an argument, the original posters often take offense to it, why? - I have no idea. This is a forum. They act like I am “attacking’ them or something, and then they’ll next say something dumb about my mom or something, lol. Some people need to grow up. But you Linx, thanks for showing your maturity and ability to look at another side of a story/arguement.[/quote]
You pointed out the problem in the forums, some ppl need to GROW UP, I’m sure there are lots of kids here (literally). I’m sure most people over the age of 25 don’t act like this in the forums, and I’m also sure there are plenty people under 25 that also acts better than their older compadres. But in general, teenagers will act stupid in forums (don’t hate them for that, it’s in their nature), and people that are old and still acts like that probably has a problem.
LOL, I was a teenager once upon a time, and boy oh boy, do I remember those days. Well, actually I can’t remember them all that well, lol, but anyways… I totallly understand what you’re saying.
Children will be children.
On the other hand, in case anyone was curious, I am years old.
Mo said, “For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?!”
Opinion granted, it still begs the question or questions, what makes you think that Chuck would fight differently the next go round? Since it was a lose/lose proposition shouldn’t Chuck have fought better? Could it also be possible that Jardine might also improve by the time they fought again? The evidence seems to support that Chuck doesn’t deal well with other predominant strikers as of late.
Mo also said, “yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.”
I see where you are trying to go with this BUT, the question is, does Jardine have the kind of ground game to take Alexander down? I don’t believe he is a BJJ black belt like Thiago Silva. Big difference there. Also Jardine is not known for his wrestling skills either. I think we can realistically reason that Jardine would have to get him there first and he hasn’t show that ability in any of his fights.
I have never been a BIG fan of Chuck. The UFC fed him perfect opponents stylistically for him. Jeremy Horn hadn’t fought in the UFC for how long, and they bring him in for an immediate title shot againt Chuck? Of course I rooted for Chuck in both fights against Tito, and his fight against Vernon White, but other than those 3 fights, I haven’t even rooted for Chuck during his title run.
come on you cant be serious!! He got demolished by randy, who clearly isnt suited to chuck, but chuck was able to come back and demolish randy twice!! you cant say that isnt an achievment in mma? Further you say he was fed suited fighters? there wasnt anyone else left to fight until wanderlei and rampage came to the ufc. At that point griffin, jardine werent quite ready! Chuck was a great champ for the ufc dont discredit that, wanderlei silva may well beat chuck and go on to dominate, its a real possibility, although i feel chuck has a strong chance in this fight.
[quote comment=”215406″]Mo said, “For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?!”
Opinion granted, it still begs the question or questions, what makes you think that Chuck would fight differently the next go round? Since it was a lose/lose proposition shouldn’t Chuck have fought better? Could it also be possible that Jardine might also improve by the time they fought again? The evidence seems to support that Chuck doesn’t deal well with other predominant strikers as of late.
Mo also said, “yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.”
I see where you are trying to go with this BUT, the question is, does Jardine have the kind of ground game to take Alexander down? I don’t believe he is a BJJ black belt like Thiago Silva. Big difference there. Also Jardine is not known for his wrestling skills either. I think we can realistically reason that Jardine would have to get him there first and he hasn’t show that ability in any of his fights.[/quote]
Fair play you have made a couple of good arguments and questions here. Yes it may well be possible that jardine would improve also, i jst feel that it wsnt a good fight at that time for chuck. He jst lost the biggest fight of his career to rampage, and yes thats no excuse for a poor performance against jardine, but in my opinion its the reason!! I do honestly feel jardine would not beat chuck if they fought again, although this is only my opinion.
i cant sort through all the bullshit and the thruths. i quit readind about halfway through. some fans here really know what there talking about… but not more than 50% of them. i might not know much but i do know the first time wanderlei and chuck met up, chuck threw in the towel. not from submisions but from getting the piss knocked out of him. yet in a recent interview chuck claims he thinks he “just hits harder” than wanderlei. some things not adding up to me. and as far as the switch from chute boxe, randy cotoure is definatley an idol of mind, but silva could have easily pulled this win off on his own. DOES ANY ONE REALIZE BEFORE DAN HENDERSON HE WAS UNDISPUTIED PRIDE FC BELT HOLDER FOR 8 YEARS!!!!! let me pose the question, how long has chuck held on to that belt??? for any further referance or if you just think im some dumb bitch that is compleatly outside of her mind. then go look for some pride fighting… but seriously, look for one of the many match ups between silva and sakurahba then after u watch silva stomp kasushi sakurahba, go watch some of just kasushi’s fights to see his mastery. now, do u still think chuck even has a chance?
Dude silva looks more and more like a chimpanzee everytime i see him. CHUCKS GONNA KO HIM IN THE 1ST ROUND!!!
Huh?
i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.
Off the subject
Anybody know whether or not Randy excepted the fight with Big Nog? Thought that Randy and Dana were supposed to talk this last weekend.
smart move by wandi. it can only help by training with couture. he needed a change from chute box after losing 2 in a row. i like his chances
[quote comment=”214404″]Off the subject
Anybody know whether or not Randy excepted the fight with Big Nog? Thought that Randy and Dana were supposed to talk this last weekend.[/quote]
Supposedly Randy and Dana are going to meet today and we will hopefully have an answer
Wandi is funny..he wants the lex..coups..bimas..and the benz.
It was kind off cool to hear him speak english, that was the first time for me. Anyways I think the Chuck and Wanderlei fight will be a 3 round war.
He’s gonna get knocked the f%$^ out just like Randy did.
[quote comment=”214396″]with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win [/quote]
randy wandy made me LOL
Lidell is all done. You cant stop Wanderlei. Nevermind the fact that he has been training this entire time with Couture. Im sorry but Chuck is gonna retire after he gets his ass beat after this one.
Couture will have established the best game plan for Wanderlei. I see Wandy going all the way to the top to fight Rampage. And with Couture in his corner I really think he is a big threat to Rampage.
That will be the biggest “F You” to the UFC from Randy. Randy’s guy holding the belt. lol. Then you could even bring Randy back to fight him. haha. Never happen but you could pull off tons of stuff. Rematch with Shogun is he gets his act together. A lot of big fights in the light heavyweight division.
I think it would be best for both fighters if Liddell won. Silva is young enough that he’ll fight another day and get more wins. I think if Liddell loses, it’ll be tough for him to want to get back in there.
I hope Wanderlei does not come throw with his “I want to F_CK Chuck.”
I hope he whoops that ass, but I do not want to see two men in the octagon loving one another.
Wanderlei Wins Split Decision.
I think 79 could be so much better. It did look promising. I wish the Guida Huerta fight was on it. I see it for free so it makes no difference if it is on the UFN or the PPV.
Silva is friends with randy and it seems silva is pretty confident that randy will be back with the UFC, They probably will wait for a ufc event so they can make a big announcement that Cotoure is back.
Wanderlie will win via unanimous decision to bad its not a 5 rounder
Obviously Randy will be back. I think Silva just dropped it and let us all know Randy has sorted his tiff out with the UFC.
In regards to the fight, I am still really unsure. If Chuck is to win he will need to come out like he did against, Vernon White, Babalu, you know, the ‘iceman’, cool agression. Chuck has looked like a B grade fight in his last two fights and it doesnt suit him.
I just hope they both bring their A game. I can not wait.
kind of funny that these guys train in my hometown yet I never see any of them
His English keeps getting a little better with each interview. I hope he comes out as vicious as ever against Lidell.
[quote comment=”214513″]kind of funny that these guys train in my hometown yet I never see any of them[/quote]
Las Vegas is huge and filled with millions of freaks. It does not suprise me that you have not crossed paths with either of them. I’m sure that Wanderlei has been spending a lot of time training as of late, and hasn’t been going out too much.
Finally get to see Wand vs. Chuck.
CHuck’s going to get knocked out just like Franklin.
Whats on the menu Wandi?
chuck,,chopped,smothered and diced.
[quote comment=”214541″]Finally get to see Wand vs. Chuck.[/quote]
NOOOOO REALLY???
Up until recently, I thought that Wandi would walk through Chuck with his agressive and chaotic tactics; but I have had a change of heart. I think Chuck’s counterstriking style matches up really well. I see him backing up, siddling the cage when Wandi rushes in with strikes, then picking his shots. I could be wrong and it is a tough fight to call just because both fighters have grenades for punches
War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.
[quote comment=”214443″]He’s gonna get knocked the f%$^ out just like Randy did.[/quote]
Yeah how many fights ago was that, not to mention a different wieght class. Randy Couture is a “natural’ heavywieght. So what if Chuck knocked him out.
[quote comment=”214442″]It was kind off cool to hear him speak english, that was the first time for me. Anyways I think the Chuck and Wanderlei fight will be a 3 round war.[/quote]
I was suprised as hell to hear him speak English… sounds like he’s been speaking it for awhile and is now probably more confident to use it and should cause he’s fighting in America.
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
your right this fight is not going to a decision one of them is getting knocked out.your also right about wandy not losing to a guy like jardine.
[quote comment=”214558″]Up until recently, I thought that Wandi would walk through Chuck with his agressive and chaotic tactics; but I have had a change of heart. I think Chuck’s counterstriking style matches up really well. I see him backing up, siddling the cage when Wandi rushes in with strikes, then picking his shots. I could be wrong and it is a tough fight to call just because both fighters have grenades for punches[/quote]
That’s pretty much the way I see it…. Chuck KO’s Wandy
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
Nice post The Saint. Anderson Silva has been in the USA and held the belt for waaaay longer than Wanderlei has even lived in the states. Anderson sill doesn’t even attempt to speak English. So instead of making fun of Wanderlei, we should be admiring and thanking him for his dedication to be a mma star in the usa, and to make the usa his new home.
I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon.
ViolentMike: u r correct if wandy is down after 2 rds he goes ballz out. Wanderlei is by far the most aggressive fighter that I have ever seen. He is tough as nails. He has been rocked, but his recovery is amazing. If I had to pay to watch one fighter, it would probably be wanderlei, I am not saying he is the best, but he guarentees ACTION, and a lot of it. No way in hell that the fight will yo to a decision, someone is getting KO’ed, and with wandy training with couture, I think wandy will win, he will overwhelm chuck, catch him in the tai clinch and nighty night to the iceman.
Also any one noticed that Randy cornered Karo against chonan, and Hendo cornered Chonan. Randy was trying to hide it seemed like. Is there a rift between the natural and hendo?
UFCMANIA please keep us popsted on if Randy will defend his title against Big Nog
also is the Soko vs. Machida match official for the Nemesis card?
Wanderlei is saying that Randy will be back in the UFC. I hope he knows something we dont know.
[quote post=”3963″]Nice post The Saint. Anderson Silva has been in the USA and held the belt for waaaay longer than Wanderlei has even lived in the states. Anderson sill doesn’t even attempt to speak English. So instead of making fun of Wanderlei, we should be admiring and thanking him for his dedication to be a mma star in the usa, and to make the usa his new home.
I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon.[/quote]
I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? Anderson Silva does not live in the US, he lives in Curitiba, Brazil. Why should he take time from training to make you guys happy?
On a second note, wandy got trainers from brazil getting him ready, couture didn’t even train with him. Why do ppl keep saying that now that he is at couture’s corner nothing can go wrong because randy is going to give him a good plan to go by? He’s not being trained by Couture you guys, he is only using his gym.
[quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!! I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
[quote comment=”214551″][quote comment=”214541″]Finally get to see Wand vs. Chuck.[/quote]
NOOOOO REALLY???[/quote]
LOL…
I like both fighters!!! “this fight no go to judges”
If I had to pick a winner, I’d go with Wanderlei, even though I’m a huge Liddell fan…I just think Chucks time is up, I read in a playboy article that his shoulders and knees are messed up and he has to ice them down everyday for several hours, I dunno. I’ll be pulling for the Iceman, but either way it should be an awesome fight!
[quote comment=”214642″][quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.[/quote]
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.
[quote post=”3963″] I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps???
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.[/quote]
yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
but to show good gesture is just not enough, remember also how many non-japanese fighters fought in pride, and pretty much none knew japanese (including american fighters).
[quote comment=”214658″][quote post=”3963″]
I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps???
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.
In addition, I think it’s a show of respect to the country the fighter is fighting in to know the language. Not mandatory, but would be a good gesture.[/quote]
yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
but to show good gesture is just not enough, remember also how many non-japanese fighters fought in pride, and pretty much none knew japanese (including american fighters).[/quote]
and look what happened to prideFC
[quote comment=”214449″]Lidell is all done. You cant stop Wanderlei. Nevermind the fact that he has been training this entire time with Couture. Im sorry but Chuck is gonna retire after he gets his ass beat after this one.
Couture will have established the best game plan for Wanderlei. I see Wandy going all the way to the top to fight Rampage. And with Couture in his corner I really think he is a big threat to Rampage.
Dude.. he is a huge threat to Quinton without Randy
Linx, come on man, I remember many Brazilian fighters and a few Americans who atleast said a few lines of Japanese. It was mainly Thank you but still it is the best thing to do ESPECIALLY if you are employed by a foreign company. You open up a McDonalds in France you are going to learn some French. Don’t believe me, watch Pulp Ficition again.
[quote comment=”214396″]i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.[/quote]
randy wandy? that would be dandy
How can people be sa[quote comment=”214396″]i cant understand half the things he says but hey there was a time i couldnt understand anything he said so randy must be teaching him something.
i say chuck is finished and wandy knees him till his face looks like franklins did. maybe chuck could ko him but with a good game plan from randy wandy should get the win and chuck will just be thinkin about retiring or finding a new place to train which is really what he needs. i just see a boring fight to go with the rest of this crap card. i hope im wrong and its a slug fest but somebody is gonna be 0-3 in there last 3 fights.[/quote]
How can people be saying this is a crap card? This is the best card I’ve seen in a while! Wandi vs Chuck!? No way that is going to a decision. The last fight of Wandi’s that I remember seeing go to the judges was when he faught Arona and that was cause arona took him down and grappled with him. Chuck is not going to do that.
And Serra vs Hughes? THis fight I do have to say, has the ability to be boring just because Hughes is in it. His last fight with lytle was one of the most boring fights i’ve seen.
And Machidaq vs SOko? Awsome!
[quote comment=”214642″][quote post=”3963″]I don’t understand why people think fighters from outside the US should learn english. They shouldn’t waste their time to learn something they don’t need, they got better things to do, such as training perhaps??? [/quote]
Are you telling me that a non-English speaker is just as marketable as an English speaking fighter?? NOW WAY!!!!!!!!
I don’t think that they SHOULD, but they should WANT to if they want to maximize thier potential. It’s all about marketabilitly. That’s why we had to see Tito’s ugly mug for a couple years, then Chuck’s equally ugly mug for the next few years. Because they were the faces of the UFC. The face of the UFC will never be a non-English speaking fighter. American companies are not going to sponser a person that doesn’t speak English when they can sponsor someone that does.
And why would a fighter want to do this. Because marketability and sponsorships = MONEY. I don’t know why else anyone would still be fighting if it wasn’t mostly due to money (just ask Randy). Otherwise, Anderson Silva would stay in Brazil fighting bare knuckle Muay Thai instead of this panzy american ufc stuff. But you know why he’s in the UFC, MONEY. And learning English can do nothing but earn him more sponsors and more fans, which means MORE MONEY.
But I do agree that he should still train too, lol.[/quote]
Im lost here you all say you are mma fans, first off anderson silva spoke a little english after he beat up franklin for the second time! so to say he is not trying to learn english is just plain stupid. Plus dana clearly said to him after the fight that he was the best pound for pound fighter in the world, again a bit pointless if the guy wouldnt understand dana? he is obviously getting to grips with the language guys!!!
Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? some very strange and contraversial statements guys, its the fight game, anybody is capable of winning any fight, bar none! Great fighters just win more thats all.
Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!! If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for? Its gony be a great fight and a great card, i personally cant wait for it!!
Well done dana white aswell, it took long enough but its finally gony happen. Cmon chuck!! hard one to call tho could either way, im swaying for chuck tho, hel be back to his best!!
Silva looks ready to fuck Chuck
[quote post=”3963″]yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.[/quote]
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.
[quote post=”3963″]How can people be saying this is a crap card? This is the best card I’ve seen in a while![/quote]
No doubt. The only people who won’t link this card are people that have either A) never watched MMA B)Prefer watching old Care Bear cartoons C) Have less understanding of a good fight card than Fedor has understanding of a good manager
i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.
Mo said, “Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? ”
Ok MO, Griffin has nothing to do with this conversation as Chuck or Wandy for that matter haven’t fought Griffin. The context of the comment was that Liddell LOST to Jardine and in my opinion Wandy wouldn’t have lost that fight. Is it possible for Wandy to lose that fight? Sure, but is it likely? Not at all. If Wandy was in trouble he would have taken Jardine to the ground, something that Chuck couldn’t and wouldn’t do obviously.
Mo also said, “Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!!”
I don’t think it is all hate as much as it is opinion. Just because I believe Chuck will lose doesn’t make me a hater. To say we can’t have our opinions is silly. Don’t take this so personal, its not like Chuck is paying you with any of his earnings.
Finally Mo said, “If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for?”
I believe most here DO want to see this fight, that is why we are talking it up. Okay I got you down for Chuck. Let the record show that it is Wandy all the way for the Saint.
cool.
Wand’s got the balls to speak a language he obviously aint good at.
great stuff. hope he keeps it up.
[quote comment=”214774″]i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.[/quote]
thats why we fight-em.we’ll see!
[quote comment=”214797″]Mo said, “Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? ”
Ok MO, Griffin has nothing to do with this conversation as Chuck or Wandy for that matter haven’t fought Griffin. The context of the comment was that Liddell LOST to Jardine and in my opinion Wandy wouldn’t have lost that fight. Is it possible for Wandy to lose that fight? Sure, but is it likely? Not at all. If Wandy was in trouble he would have taken Jardine to the ground, something that Chuck couldn’t and wouldn’t do obviously.
Mo also said, “Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!!”
I don’t think it is all hate as much as it is opinion. Just because I believe Chuck will lose doesn’t make me a hater. To say we can’t have our opinions is silly. Don’t take this so personal, its not like Chuck is paying you with any of his earnings.
Finally Mo said, “If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for?”
I believe most here DO want to see this fight, that is why we are talking it up. Okay I got you down for Chuck. Let the record show that it is Wandy all the way for the Saint.[/quote]
Cool i agree with you on a few counts here, but this wasnt all directed at you, there are a lot of chuck haters, and for that matter also wandi haters. Further its easy after a fighter has lost a fight to predict what another fighter would have done, hell if it was that easy id be champ!! its not tho, yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.
I dont disagree with people having opinions that is also rediculous my friend! As its only my opinion on what im reading also. For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?! I think we will see a better chuck liddell in this fight, its the fight i think he wants, and also needs.
Its gony be a great fight cant wait for it!!
[quote comment=”214774″]i dont see chuck winning.Wandy is no babalu or tito, hes the one that killed “rampage” twice, and we know who “rampage” whooped twice.Silva first round KO.[/quote]
Tito has already beaten wandy? In my opinion he wouldnt “kill” rampage now either, hes a different and improved fighter now. I honestly think it will be a great fight tho
He’s so cute when he talks the english
Wow, his english is getting so much better. I understood 99% of what he said here. When I heard him speak before moving to Vegas I could only understand about 60% of what he was saying.
YAY!!! He is going to keel Chuck, hehehe… no, I like Chuck too, but go Wandy!
Much improved English! Keep it up Wandy. I feel bad for saying this but I think Chuck’s career is in grave danger. If Wandy has any chin left after Hendo knocked it off, I see him winning this fight by TKO.
Anyway, I Can’t wait!!!
[quote comment=”214563″]War Wandy!!!! First of all, get off of his english. He has come along way from having a translator. Also it is funny to hear people make fun of his looks. He has all that scar tissue on his face because he was entertaining you. In other words instead of running from his opponents he stood toe to toe with them. By the way that is what your face would look like too if you had half the courage he has.
Couture in his corner or not he will destroy Chuck. It won’t be a decision and it will be more than odd if the fight goes three rounds. That would mean someone is running or hugging their way through the fight and I have seen neither guy do that in the past.
Wandy would never lose to Jardine.[/quote]
love what you’ve got to say! i’m also sick and tired of people critisizing wanderleis’ english. he’s learned alot in a short period of time. i know i couldn’t learn porteguese that fast. and about the fight, everyone compares the accompplishments of wanderlei and chuck. think about it. wanderlei was pride 205lbs champ for 6yrs and yet he’s only 31yrs old. chuck was a good champ but now he’s what 38yrs old. chuck hasn’t thrown a kick in his last 2 fights. wanderlei is in his prime, even though he has a ton of experience. I SEE WANDERLEI DESTROYING CHUCK FIRST, THAN DESTROYING RAMPAGE FOR THE 3RD TIME! i don’t think chuck will have an answer for wanderleis’ knees,kicks,and a flurry of agressive punches. i say wanderlei KO’S chuck in the 2nd rd. i can’t wait,having been a big wanderlei silva fan for many yrs.NO ONE IS MORE EXPLOSIVE THAN WANDERLEI SILVA!
if anyone had guts enough to tell wanderlei he looks like a monkey, he’d problably take it as a compliment because,THEM BATTLE SCARS BABY! FROM VALE TUDO TO PRIDE TO THE UFC, WANDERLEI’S BEEN FIGHTING HIS WHOLE LIFE! THE EARS,THE SCARS,ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT HE’S A GAME FIGHTER WHO WOULD NEVER BACK DOWN FROM ANYONE! ONLY 31YRS. OLD! 205LBS FIGHTERS BEWARE, THERE’S A NEW SHERRIFF IN TOWN AND HE’S LOOKING FOR YOU, MOTHER F***ERS!
ok guys …everyone is thinking wandy is gonna win this easily..its really a 50/50% chance , theres so many upsets this years who knows mayb chuck will get a lucky punch and knock wandy out.. like gonzaga and cro cop
[quote post=”3963″]yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.[/quote]
I agree. When I show another side to an argument, the original posters often take offense to it, why? - I have no idea. This is a forum. They act like I am ‘attacking’ them or something, and then they’ll next say something dumb about my mom or something, lol. Some people need to grow up. But you Linx, thanks for showing your maturity and ability to look at another side of a story/arguement.
[quote post=”3963″]Im lost here you all say you are mma fans, first off anderson silva spoke a little english after he beat up franklin for the second time! so to say he is not trying to learn english is just plain stupid. [/quote]
Umm, First off, an opinion on how good somoene’s English has NOTHING to do with whether or not I am an MMA fan. And you’re right that after the Franlin fight, Silva RECITED a tiny bit of English. He simply memorized what he was going to say. What exactly did he say anyway? I’m sure it wasn’t much more than “Rich is good fighter. Thank you Ohio”. I am 99.999% certain that if I walked up to Anderson Silva that he would not be capable of holding a conversation with me. On the other hand, if I walked up to Wanderlei Silva, we’d easily be able to hold a coversation. Knowing/learning a language is a lot different than memorizing a sentence. I can memorize a sentence in any language. That doesn’t mean that I can speak those languages.
[quote post=”3963″]Next why are there so many chuck haters? then wandi haters? Im a big chuck fan, but would never talk shit about wandi, the guys a great fighter and none of us are in any position do discredit either fighter!! If you dont wanna see this fight then what the hell do you watch mma and ufc for? Its gony be a great fight and a great card, i personally cant wait for it!![/quote]
I have never been a BIG fan of Chuck. The UFC fed him perfect opponents stylistically for him. Jeremy Horn hadn’t fought in the UFC for how long, and they bring him in for an immediate title shot againt Chuck? Of course I rooted for Chuck in both fights against Tito, and his fight against Vernon White, but other than those 3 fights, I haven’t even rooted for Chuck during his title run.
I don’t believe a single person said that they don’t want to see this fight. People have wanted to see this fight for about 5 years now.
[quote post=”3963″]Also to say that wandi would never get beat by jardine? why? yet some of you are asking for griffin to get a title shot cos hes done so well? wait a min, didnt jardine kick griffin’s ass? some very strange and contraversial statements guys, its the fight game, anybody is capable of winning any fight, bar none! Great fighters just win more thats all.[/quote]
I am not totally sure what you are tring to say here, but as far as saying that Wandi would never get beat by Jardine, MY exact comment was:
[quote post=”3963″]I cannot see Wanderlei losing to Keith Jardine neither, ESPECIALLY by decision. If Wandi thought he was behind on the score cards, going into round 3 he would have went for broke and left it all in the octagon. [/quote]
“i’m also sick and tired of people critisizing wanderleis’ english.”
I agree with Jel. Some of you barely speak and write English better than Wand. Everyone else around the world speaks 3 and 4 languages, including English. Wand is from the very bottom social class in Brazil, and yet he knows English and some Japanese, too. For those of you who are condescendingly remarking on his accent–how many languages do YOU speak?
[quote post=”3963″] yeah, ok, i just got my comment busted big time LOL, i can see the whole marketable.
I love when someone is willing to see the other side of the arguement. Way to go linx.
I agree. When I show another side to an argument, the original posters often take offense to it, why? - I have no idea. This is a forum. They act like I am “attacking’ them or something, and then they’ll next say something dumb about my mom or something, lol. Some people need to grow up. But you Linx, thanks for showing your maturity and ability to look at another side of a story/arguement.[/quote]
You pointed out the problem in the forums, some ppl need to GROW UP, I’m sure there are lots of kids here (literally). I’m sure most people over the age of 25 don’t act like this in the forums, and I’m also sure there are plenty people under 25 that also acts better than their older compadres. But in general, teenagers will act stupid in forums (don’t hate them for that, it’s in their nature), and people that are old and still acts like that probably has a problem.
LOL, I was a teenager once upon a time, and boy oh boy, do I remember those days. Well, actually I can’t remember them all that well, lol, but anyways… I totallly understand what you’re saying.
Children will be children.
On the other hand, in case anyone was curious, I am years old.
Mo said, “For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?!”
Opinion granted, it still begs the question or questions, what makes you think that Chuck would fight differently the next go round? Since it was a lose/lose proposition shouldn’t Chuck have fought better? Could it also be possible that Jardine might also improve by the time they fought again? The evidence seems to support that Chuck doesn’t deal well with other predominant strikers as of late.
Mo also said, “yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.”
I see where you are trying to go with this BUT, the question is, does Jardine have the kind of ground game to take Alexander down? I don’t believe he is a BJJ black belt like Thiago Silva. Big difference there. Also Jardine is not known for his wrestling skills either. I think we can realistically reason that Jardine would have to get him there first and he hasn’t show that ability in any of his fights.
I have never been a BIG fan of Chuck. The UFC fed him perfect opponents stylistically for him. Jeremy Horn hadn’t fought in the UFC for how long, and they bring him in for an immediate title shot againt Chuck? Of course I rooted for Chuck in both fights against Tito, and his fight against Vernon White, but other than those 3 fights, I haven’t even rooted for Chuck during his title run.
come on you cant be serious!! He got demolished by randy, who clearly isnt suited to chuck, but chuck was able to come back and demolish randy twice!! you cant say that isnt an achievment in mma? Further you say he was fed suited fighters? there wasnt anyone else left to fight until wanderlei and rampage came to the ufc. At that point griffin, jardine werent quite ready! Chuck was a great champ for the ufc dont discredit that, wanderlei silva may well beat chuck and go on to dominate, its a real possibility, although i feel chuck has a strong chance in this fight.
[quote comment=”215406″]Mo said, “For one my opinion is that if chuck fought jardine another ten times hed win almost every time, i honestly believe that! I think it was a crap fight at a crap time for chuck, it was a lose/lose fight for him in my opinion?!”
Opinion granted, it still begs the question or questions, what makes you think that Chuck would fight differently the next go round? Since it was a lose/lose proposition shouldn’t Chuck have fought better? Could it also be possible that Jardine might also improve by the time they fought again? The evidence seems to support that Chuck doesn’t deal well with other predominant strikers as of late.
Mo also said, “yeah silva may have won the jardine fight, but we have also jst found out that if jardine had took down alexander then he would in all probability woulod have won that fight too.”
I see where you are trying to go with this BUT, the question is, does Jardine have the kind of ground game to take Alexander down? I don’t believe he is a BJJ black belt like Thiago Silva. Big difference there. Also Jardine is not known for his wrestling skills either. I think we can realistically reason that Jardine would have to get him there first and he hasn’t show that ability in any of his fights.[/quote]
Fair play you have made a couple of good arguments and questions here. Yes it may well be possible that jardine would improve also, i jst feel that it wsnt a good fight at that time for chuck. He jst lost the biggest fight of his career to rampage, and yes thats no excuse for a poor performance against jardine, but in my opinion its the reason!! I do honestly feel jardine would not beat chuck if they fought again, although this is only my opinion.
after he retires chuck he gonna have the belt
i cant sort through all the bullshit and the thruths. i quit readind about halfway through. some fans here really know what there talking about… but not more than 50% of them. i might not know much but i do know the first time wanderlei and chuck met up, chuck threw in the towel. not from submisions but from getting the piss knocked out of him. yet in a recent interview chuck claims he thinks he “just hits harder” than wanderlei. some things not adding up to me. and as far as the switch from chute boxe, randy cotoure is definatley an idol of mind, but silva could have easily pulled this win off on his own. DOES ANY ONE REALIZE BEFORE DAN HENDERSON HE WAS UNDISPUTIED PRIDE FC BELT HOLDER FOR 8 YEARS!!!!! let me pose the question, how long has chuck held on to that belt??? for any further referance or if you just think im some dumb bitch that is compleatly outside of her mind. then go look for some pride fighting… but seriously, look for one of the many match ups between silva and sakurahba then after u watch silva stomp kasushi sakurahba, go watch some of just kasushi’s fights to see his mastery. now, do u still think chuck even has a chance?
to be a axe murderer, wanderlei actually seems down to earth. gotta love a brazillan that likes taco bell lol