Frank Edgar.. i say give him the winner of the tuf final.. (hopfully Huerta)

If the ufc had a 145lb division..Frankie would be champ.

I would like to see him fight Urijah Faber..cuz Frankie could beat him.

Unfortunately, Edgar (as talented as he is) doesn’t have the same entertainment value as some other up and comers, and this will hurt him. Compare his fight with Fisher to the Stout/Fisher fight. There is no comparison whatsoever.

Edgar’s propensity to get the take down and just “stay active” (read: moving limbs, but not causing much damage) will make his fights seem boring, as his fight with Fisher was. Sure, there was “movement”, but there was little in the way of damage cause by skill (like there was during the stout fight).

My fear is that Edgar will end up like Sherk – a very skilled fighter whos style makes for fairly unentertaining fights.

I was a little unimpressed with Fisher compared with some of his past fights. It seemed like all he did was defend. Edgar was solid. Very tough.

wow, edgar vs. florian is a fantastic idea, so is frankie vs. the winner or loser of the huerta/guida fight…basically i’m happy watching frankie fight any of the good lightweights, soon enough he’ll be in there for a title shot, i don’t know if he’s got anything for bj, but who knows…

I was very impressed with Edgar but the hole in his game seemed to be going in for the kill with submissions. I think he had numerous opportunities to take Fishers back and sink in a rear-naked choke but he seemed determined to keep Spencer on his back. Not sure why.

Frankie really took Spencer to wrestling school in their fight. I was really dissapointed in Spencer’s ability to keep the fight standing. BUT, I was also dissapointed in the amount of damage that Edgar was only able to inflict from the to position. The way round 1 went, I thought that Spencer would have been bleeding all over the place by the end of the fight. Spencer has as much scar tissue on his face as any other fighter. He ALWAYS get cut, very easily. However, Edgar wasn’t even able to bust him up while having Spencer on his back for about 90% of the fight.

I do believe that Edgar has a TON of upside. However, in order to bring out all the potential, he HAS to move out of Toms River, NJ. He is by far the best fighter at his camp. That is the sign that you need to move on to a bigger and better camp. You can only be as good as your training partners, and if you can dominate your training partners, what good is practicing. I would really like to see Edgar start training at Xtreme Couture or Team Quest, or even Miletich Fighting Systems.

[quote comment="213351"]If the ufc had a 145lb division..Frankie would be champ.

I would like to see him fight Urijah Faber..cuz Frankie could beat him.[/quote]

That would be an awesome fight, but I actually think that Urijah would tool him. Edgar would NOT be able to take Faber down at will, he is a phenominal wrestler as well, and actually looks bigger at 145 than Frankie does at 155. Also, you can’t even compare Edgar and Faber’s standup. Faber has lightning fast hands with KO power. Edgar posses neither. Also, Faber has better BJJ skills and has been training MMA much longer. Frankie comes into his fights with one edge – wrestling. If he was to fight Faber, he would not have any edge.

Edgar def has entertainment value, I mean look at his fight with Tyson. If that wasn’t entertaining then I dont know what is. Though he may not finsh his fights, that just gives credit to his opponets.

Edgar def has entertainment value, I mean look at his fight with Tyson. If that wasn’t entertaining then I dont know what is. Though he may not finsh his fights, that just gives credit to his opponets.

I would like to see Ken Flo v. Edgar , than the winner of that

I would like to see Ken Flo v. Edgar, and then the winner of that take on the inner of the Penn V. Stevenson fight… Mmmm

BustYoFace – Agree 100%.

I think Edgar has made his case to challenge for the title after Penn and Stvenson. Edgar beat a legit top five guy in Fisher. He also beat a super talented Griffin (future title contender in his own right). I can see the argument for him to fight one more top five guy, but I wouldn’t be upset to see him fight for the title in the summer of ‘08.

Think of what a fight between him and Sherk would be like. Two overpowering wrestlers going at each other. Would it be the most boring fight in history? Or would it be fun to watch a very active grappling match? I don’t know. I am probably the only person who likes watching Sean Sherk’s fights, so my opinion if most likely in the minority.

I agree with the KenFlo vs. Edgar analogy.

But, I think KenFlo would submit Edgar.

KenFlo should be in the championship fight against Joe Daddy and not BJ Penn.

Sorry, but defeating Jens Pulver should not automatically make you jump over fighters to get a shot.

Lets do this.

BJ Penn vs. Joe Daddy for the Belt.

Kenny Florian vs. Frankie Edgar

Joe Lauzon vs. Alvin Robinson

Nate Diaz vs. Matt Grice

Tyson Griffin vs. Roger Huerta (if he wins)

Thiago Taveres vs. Clay Guida (if he loses)

Why are all of you stuck on Edgar. He fights just like Sherk and most people hate sherk fights!! They both do nothing other than hold the opponet down and hit baby shots the whole time. Dont get me wrong he made Spencer look like a beginner on the ground!

I don’t think beating Fisher means title shot, not these days… I would say if he beats Kenflo or Huerta/Guida, or the loser of bj/Stevenson it might mean title shot, but that div is kinda f’d up right now so it might be 2 or 3 fights before he can be lined up to fight for the gold.

[quote comment="213347"]Frank Edgar.. i say give him the winner of the tuf final.. (hopfully Huerta)[/quote]

He said give him a top contender. Huerta is nowhere near a top contender.

Frank Edgar’s fight with Spencer Fisher was the most boring fight of the night. Who in the hell likes to watch take downs. I was frustrated that whole fight due to the lack of action once he took him down. Boring as hell, I hate him, never want to watch him bore the hell out of me again. He was scared to let Fisher up so he just laid on him for 3 rounds. I hope somebody takes his head off. Fisher was terrible though, no excuses.

It seems to me hardly anyone here watched his fight with Tyson Griffin. Edgar has very good wrestling, and solid boxing as well. He would tool Faber just like Griffin did, if not worse. And if you think his fight with Fisher was lay and pray you are watching the wrong sport. Boxing, kickboxing, toughman competitions, and “ouch my balls” could use some more fans. You should help out with that

I hope to see him against Florian. Bocek has solid submission skills and couldn’t do anything to Edgar, but he isn’t on Florian’s level mma-wise

This guy’s so boring all he did was take fisher down and lay and pray he sucks, the fight was hard to watch but the lytle fight….wow that fight was wicked, loved it.

[quote comment="213508"]Boring as hell, I hate him, never want to watch him bore the hell out of me again.[/quote]

I was going to bash you for this, but it actually made me laugh. Keep up the good work, lmao. I just hope you have the spare time to post here, considering most of it is spent crying in a corner with a pic of Fisher while masturbating, using your own tears as lube

I guess I was just in a bad mood there for a minute. A win is a win, I think we all want to see more punches to the face though. They should have been stood up more, but Edgar would have just taken it back down. Who were these bizarro referee’s anyways, I must have missed something because McCarthy and the other usuals were nowhere to be seen.. ?

I love Fisher, but my boy got beat. BAD! Fisher had absolutely terrible takedown defense in this fight. I don’t remember it being that bad before, but then again I dont remember anyone also named Frankie Edgar.

i think the fight spent 2 much time on the ground 4 the amount of action. they should have been stood them up more often. bad fight. one of the worst fights of the night. of course the worst fight was evans and bisping. what is with getting points 4 takedowns if u don’t really do anything with it

I honestly thought Karo/Chonan was the worst fight of the night. Very unlike Karo to be in a snoozer, but he’s more than made up for it with some of the best fights in ufc history (karo/diaz, karo/diego)

Frankie Edgar looked great against Fisher and his ground game was more exciting to watch then Sean Sherks. He has also had some realy exciting fights before and is a true 155 fighter.

[quote comment="213527"]It seems to me hardly anyone here watched his fight with Tyson Griffin. Edgar has very good wrestling, and solid boxing as well. He would tool Faber just like Griffin did, if not worse. And if you think his fight with Fisher was lay and pray you are watching the wrong sport. Boxing, kickboxing, toughman competitions, and “ouch my balls” could use some more fans. You should help out with that

I hope to see him against Florian. Bocek has solid submission skills and couldn’t do anything to Edgar, but he isn’t on Florian’s level mma-wise[/quote]

I agree. I get sick of hearing everyone complain about how boring Sherk and Edgar are. If you want to see guys get punched in the face, watch boxing. Wrestling is part of the game.

if you want to see an exciting wrestler. watch clay guida. this guy goes balls to the wall every second of every fight.

[quote comment="213527"]It seems to me hardly anyone here watched his fight with Tyson Griffin. Edgar has very good wrestling, and solid boxing as well. He would tool Faber just like Griffin did, if not worse. And if you think his fight with Fisher was lay and pray you are watching the wrong sport. Boxing, kickboxing, toughman competitions, and “ouch my balls” could use some more fans. You should help out with that

I hope to see him against Florian. Bocek has solid submission skills and couldn’t do anything to Edgar, but he isn’t on Florian’s level mma-wise[/quote]

I tried to watch that fight with urijah versus griffin at 155lbs, but it’s been pulled… Urijah is at 145 lb he walks around at 152 lbs (always proper diet and training)… Everyone loses… if Urijah goes up in weight I think he’s at a small disadvantage… if they ‘can’ come down in weight I think it puts urijah at a small advantage. Everyone loses, urijah didn’t lose to some chump… at least he lost to another little monster fighter. I don’t see Edgar tooling’ urijah at 145lbs… but that’s probably a fight that will never happen.

how come a lot of people are saying frankie is a boring fighter, in previous blogs people were saying all his fights were exciting. can you blame the guy for using a smart game plan to get the win? sure if if stood with fischer more, it could have been more exciting, but it also could have been a blemish to his perfect record. lets see how his next fight goes before you start comparing him to sherk fights. my bet is he finishes his next opponent via TKO strikes

I must admit, I did think Frankie was a little Sherk-esque in this fight, but please don’t call Frankie a boring fighter. He is not. The only reason he was not able to inflict a ton of damage on the ground was because of Fisher’s guard. Fisher did a good job of slipping into guard everytime it got passed. Other than that, he straight up demolished Fisher. Fisher couldn’t do ANYTHING the entire fight.

And don’t say Frankie can’t finish fights either.. He’s fought 3 times in the UFC with 1 TKO and 2 UD’s, but the UD’s were against Tyson Griffin, a future contender, and Spencer Fisher!! Come on. You have to take into account the level of talent he’s fought. The UFC did not put him up against low level fighters off the bat.

Also, a little MMA math lol.. Tyson Griffin is the only fighter to ever defeat Faber, and Frankie beat Tyson. I know MMA math doesn’t mean much, but in this case, to whoever was saying Faber is out of his league, think again. I personally cannot recognize one name in the list of Faber’s past opponents (except Tyson Griffin who he lost to by TKO).

[quote comment="213527"]It seems to me hardly anyone here watched his fight with Tyson Griffin. Edgar has very good wrestling, and solid boxing as well. He would tool Faber just like Griffin did, if not worse. And if you think his fight with Fisher was lay and pray you are watching the wrong sport. Boxing, kickboxing, toughman competitions, and “ouch my balls” could use some more fans. You should help out with that

I hope to see him against Florian. Bocek has solid submission skills and couldn’t do anything to Edgar, but he isn’t on Florian’s level mma-wise[/quote]
I agree, Tyson beat Faber, I think Frankie would beat him in similar fashion. Although I have to add with teh entertainment aspect that that was mostly Griffin’s doing, not Frankies. But to will be following Frankie real close, one of the best up and comers in LW. Give him a name already, like Florian.

Champion – Sean Sherk

1. BJ Penn
2. Joe Stevenson
3. Kenny Florian
4. Tyson Griffen (I feel his wins over Guida and Tavares qualify him, tough fight and loss to Edgar but more well rounded)
5. Roger Huerta (Could Edgar beat him ? I think not)
6. Frank Edgar
7. Spencer Fischer
8. Clay Guida
9. Melvin Guillard (The climb back to the top I love it)
10. Thiago Tavares (for you over hyping knuckle heads lol)

[quote post="3850"]Think of what a fight between him and Sherk would be like. Two overpowering wrestlers going at each other. Would it be the most boring fight in history? Or would it be fun to watch a very active grappling match? I don’t know. I am probably the only person who likes watching Sean Sherk’s fights, so my opinion if most likely in the minority. [/quote]

I personally think that Sean Sherk would dominate a fight against Frankie Edgar. Sherk is just so much bigger and stronger. Sherk fought mostly at 170, while Edgar fought at 145. It would be too much of a strength advantage for Sherk.

[quote post="3850"]Also, a little MMA math lol.. Tyson Griffin is the only fighter to ever defeat Faber, and Frankie beat Tyson. I know MMA math doesn’t mean much, but in this case, to whoever was saying Faber is out of his league, think again. I personally cannot recognize one name in the list of Faber’s past opponents (except Tyson Griffin who he lost to by TKO). [/quote]

Do you just watch the UFC? If not, than do you watch a MMA league that has a featherweight division? Because if not, OF COURSE you haven’t heard of any of Urijah Faber’s opponents – you never seen a featherweight fight. MMMmath does not work. I think that Urijah Faber would defeat Frankie Edgar, rather easily. Edgar would NOT be able to take Faber down at will, Faber is a phenominal wrestler as well, and actually looks bigger at 145 than Frankie does at 155. Also, you can’t even compare Edgar and Faber’s standup. Faber has lightning fast hands with KO power. Edgar posses neither. (Frankie’s hands are no where as explosive and powerful as Tyson Griffin’s either). Also, Faber has better BJJ skills and has been training MMA much longer. Frankie comes into his fights with one edge – wrestling. If he was to fight Faber, he would not have any edge whatsoever.

violent mike, go watch tennis

Phenom, watch mma, there is waaaay more to mma than the ufc. I’m sorry you never heard of the likes of Urijah Faber, Chase Beebe, or Jeff Curran; it’s only your loss – if you are truely a mma fan.

Phenom, should I appolologize for analyzing the fight better than you could, or do you go to sleep every night jerkin it to Frankie Edgar and my post hurt your feelings??

Which is it?? It HAS to be one or the other.

ummm Frankie did outbox tyson griffin the whole fight fyi. If frankie was afraid to stand and trade with fisher then fisher was equally afraid to be active on the ground and risk bad position against frankie for fear of the potential damage. A guy can be just as afraid of the ground game as the stand up…