By Jesse Holland
Episode nine is here and so is the first round of quarterfinal action. We kick things off with an unusually long recap of last week’s fight between Tommy Speer and Jon Koppenhaver.
It was interesting to see Mac so dutifully embody the “team” concept as he starts walking out of the gym the minute Jon gets his arm around Tommy’s throat.
Having run out of reasons to appear on camera, Jared gives his take on the fight complete with gratuitous dip spit. I have to believe that with today’s knowledge about chewing tobacco and oral cancer such a move is done purely for spectacle.
I’m not going to pass judgment but Big League Chew is half the price and double the pleasure.
Coach Serra calls a roundtable meeting to figure out the best strategy for picking the quarterfinal fights. He tosses around the idea of pitting Mac vs. Tommy just to stick it to Hughes, but some of the guys feel that cheats them of their opportunity.
Dana and Serra have a sit-down with each fighter to find out who they want to face. George declares himself the best fighter and when asked for the second-best he just kind of stares blankly like he can’t comprehend the question.
I had that same reaction when a reader asked me why anyone would buy Octagon.
John decries Mac’s status as the resident favorite to win it all and looks genuinely anxious to “smash him”. He gets his wish at the fight picks as Dana announces he will fight Mac to start the quarterfinals.
The complete quarterfinal matches as picked by Matt Serra:
- John Kolosci vs. Mac Danzig
- Matt Arroyo vs. Troy Mandaloniz
- George Sotiropoulos vs. Richie Hightower
- Ben Saunders vs. Tommy Speer
In a mild plot twist, Dana informs Serra that since two of the matches will pit teammates against each other, he must pick two fighters to send to Team Hughes for fight training and cornering.
Serra is understandably annoyed as Hughes not only lambasted Serra’s initial picks, but then went 2-6 in the preliminary fights. He also thinks Dana is missing the bond between fighter and trainer.
Hughes is smirking over Serra’s picks and thinks it will work to his advantage. I seem to remember that same look after the preliminary picks and we all know how that turned out.
During the commercial break we’re treated to yet another Beowulf preview. The movie is boasting it’s use of animation but to me it looks kind of dated – almost like The Polar Express with a lot of swords and sorcery.
I know it wants to attract the male viewer with nude scenes of Angelina Jolie but that ride has more miles on it than my sister’s Corolla.
Anyway, back at the house the guys are starting to get a little tired of Mac’s shtick and the producers treat us to a montage of Mac complaining about everyone and everything.
Mac blames his attitude on cabin fever and orders a bird feeder to help soothe his raging spirit.
Apparently Mac has annoyed more than just his fellow castmates as no bird is seen for days. Naturally the guys torture him by tampering with the feeder.
He then shows up for training moaning about how sick he is of training. He talks about the early part of his career where he had to train by himself including sparring. Now unless he has an alter ego ala Corey Hill/Buddy Rowe, who is he sparring with if he trains alone?
Mac decides (after a moonlight chat) that he’s going to stop being negative and treat the rest of the guys with respect. His first order of business is to be nice to Blake Bowman. I think Mac has confused “nice” with “condescending” as he continues to call Blake derogatory names while professing his admiration for him.
The guys have no trouble making weight and afterwards Dana asks Serra to pick the fighters that will defect to Team Hughes. Serra refuses so Dana resorts to the scientific method of tossing a coin.
Matt and Richie get the short end of the stick and Richie asks for a quick meeting with the Team Hughes coaches to clear the air. He tries to reach common ground but Hughes and company are having none of it.
Hughes calls the meeting “unprofessional” and then gets up and walks out of the room without shaking hands. Fight fire with fire is how they do it in Bettendorf I suppose.
Right before the fight John feels confident about his chances against Mac and believes he has all of Team Serra on his side and about half of Team Hughes. By my calculations he probably has about a third of the viewing audience as well.
Round one begins with a low kick by John. Mac sneaks in a jab. Another low kick and Mac rushes him. John kind of slides into guard where he does very little.
Mac stays busy on top and John eventually powers his way up and tries for a single leg takedown. He can’t secure it and seems content to just hang on. All the while Mac keeps landing shots and looks cool as a cucumber. John looks very rigid.
John continues to clutch Mac’s leg and it becomes apparent that he’ll be spending most of this round using (the less common) lay-n-pray from the bottom. He finally gets to his feet and the fight is paused for mouthpiece maintenance.
Upon resumption John shoots in and Mac stuffs him. Mac then rolls him aside and quickly and easily locks up a rear naked choke.
The fight was completely one-sided and John admits he got his tail kicked. Mac gets back into the locker room and turns in the most maudlin speech since Sally Field at the ‘85 Oscars.
Has Mac turned a corner? The producers would like us to think so as the segment ends with a humming bird finding refuge at the International House of Danzig.
Stay tuned next week as the coach’s challenge takes place at the local bowling alley, Serra waffles over his cornering duties and we get treated to two fights in one night!
See you then!
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Lets Go Team SERRA!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m sure there will be lots more … Just check out the column from Jesse Holland from UFCmania.com later this evening for a complete recap of the show.
Not to be “that” guy but shouldn’t it be MMAMania.Com?
=)
[quote comment="210514"]I’m sure there will be lots more … Just check out the column from Jesse Holland from UFCmania.com later this evening for a complete recap of the show.
Not to be “that” guy but shouldn’t it be MMAMania.Com?
=)[/quote]
Uh huh … It’s like a new year. I keep writing the old one.
Mania, is Any Given Saturday happening live before UFC 78 this weekend?
I know tonight (just pure speculation) that Matt Hughes gets to Dana White and complains that he does not want Tommy and Mac fighting one another, and Dana agrees to that and makes Serra have some of his guys fight those two, which both Speers and Danzig make it to the semi-finals, and it will be Mac Danzig vs. Ben Saunders in the finals.
Thats how I see it happening.
[quote comment="210515"]
Uh huh … It’s like a new year. I keep writing the old one.[/quote]
Cool Cool, I completely understand. Keep up the good MMA news, I love the site.
lol Mac is even pissing off the animals
[quote post="3902"]Mania, is Any Given Saturday happening live before UFC 78 this weekend?[/quote]
Good question. Haven’t spoken to Luke in a few weeks. I’ll try and find out.
just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people
This episode sucked and so did the fight. Mac looked really good though. The best part of the episode was when Warmachine moved the bird feeder and fucked with Mac lol
You know you didn’t do very well when the other fighter looks embarrassed about beating you.
[quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.
“hughes is a dick dana’s a cheapass and the earth is round.”
Ed herman
Can Dana learn to toss a coin?
[quote comment="210574"][quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote]
It sometimes seems like I’m the only one who thinks like you. These coaches have the fighters for only a few weeks before the prelims, compared to the years of training the fighters had before coming on the show. If Hughes is directly responsible for the 6 losses, then he’s also directly responsible for Danzig, who we all know is probably the favorite to win the whole thing.
If anything, Serra is the one who’s looked like a bad coach. The guy he’s literally trained for years gave up like a little bitch in his very first fight. I’d put more stock into that than I would in Hughes’s coaching abilities based on a few weeks of training with guys he’s never met before.
I’m not saying I believe that Serra is a bad coach at all. I think that winning is on the shoulders of the fighter, and the coach can only help so much, which is why I’m hesitant to pass judgement on Hughes ability so quickly.
[quote comment="210574"][quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote]
I agree with JR in Hughes team selection, but Serra’s a far better coach, he doesn’t over work his guys, keeps them fresh enough in practice so they can concentrate on learning and strategy. Even if Hughes’ guys Mac or Tommy win TUF, I believe Serra got the maximum potential out of his fighters so far. Serra maximized their talents whereas Hughes has not. Serra also lost one of his top guys in George Sotiropoulos on the first day and lowering his chances for a champion. Of course Serra is not without error, afterall he boxed himself into a corner by feeling obligated to pick Joey “Little Bitch” Scarola. God I still hate that guy. lol.
Most of the coaching done is what goes on in practice. In a fight there’s very little a coach can do but remind his guys what to do if they’re not reacting properly.
So was Jesse Holland saying that he thinks people would want to buy Octagon, or that he thinks no one would? I can’t see how anyone would, I have many things I’d rather drop 2500 bucks on.
Matt Hughes has brought shame to the coaching game. TUF has been lousy way to introduce (and impress…yeah right!) the world to Hughes’ new fight team.
Matt Hughes has come off someone who is:
1) obnoxious
2) only teaches the basics in training
3) only gives super basic game plan advice pre-fight and during fights (”keep it standing” or “take him to the ground”)
4) hurts his fighters in practice when they don’t act emotional enough for him
5) tries to shove his religious views down people’s throats, and not very effectively at that
6) a self-absorbed pouter who backstabs his fighters whenever things go wrong.
Whatever happens the rest of the way, Matt Serra is the winner. Hughes might win the belt back, but, either way, he will be more remembered for being a gigantic douchebag.
if matt hughes had won the preliminary fights 6-2 he would have DEFINATELY put 2 of Serra’s boys in against each other and dana would’ve agreed thats a guarentee!!! do you guys agree???…still matt serra is the nice guy and just agrees with what his team wants to do and now mac danzig is in the semi’s with another hughes guy having a chance…i still feel that he is the best guy as he has walked all over his 2 opponents…
“Having run out of reasons to appear on camera, Jared gives his take on the fight complete with gratuitous dip spit. I have to believe that with today’s knowledge about chewing tobacco and oral cancer such a move is done purely for spectacle.
I’m not going to pass judgment but Big League Chew is half the price and double the pleasure.”
-You should spend more time in the South.
Sure most of us agree that Hughes is coming off as a Douche, but what surprises me is that Serra is letting his douche light shine and not getting crap for it. He is just as egomaniacal and narcissistic as Hughes. As for the fight Danzig was way too much for John he should be a no brainer to be in the finale probably against Ben. The two “Serra” fighters talking to Hughes perhaps the gayest thing on TUF this season other than Joey with his sandy vagina.
Hughes is a prick, but Serra is also a douche. The both are coming across as dicks. Danzig’s win brought the hummingbird, how cheesy, just show fights cut the BS.
I thought the shot of the hummingbird at the end of the show was priceless, I laughed out loud. Mac dominated that fight and I really wouldn’t be surprised if he wins the whole thing. George is a goof like he really believes no ones even close to his level, LOL please, hopefully mac teaches this guy some humility.
How funny would it be if high tower ko’s george in the first, man I would laugh my ass off if that happened.
I think George didn’t answer the question of who would give him the toughest fight because he didn’t want them to match him up with Mac… George wants to make it to the finals, he just didn’t trust the question!
Mac is hellva fighter, I don’t know why they say he’s smaller, just because a guy is taller doesn’t make him bigger or stronger Mac definitely had more muscle mass. geez…
Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote
What a tool how can you say his cornering is poor, you are clearly the D*CK head, not only has every one of his fighters followed his CLEAR AND CONCISE cornering, he tells them very intelligently what to do, not to mention his voice is very crisp so they can hear him, infact his voice overpowers the other corners, making it massively difficult for his fighter opponentS to hear THEIR corner , so that just leaves me to say——– GET A CLUE WILL YA !
Hey Hughes haters! During this season,
Outside of being a bad coach tell me why Hughes is a dick, because outside of being a good coach Serra’s a dick. Chew on that a little. Serra has been an ass all season. Hughes has been professional. Serra’s a better coach, but Hughes is the better person. Chew some more.
Serra’s ability at recognising talent cannot be denied. They picked their fighters and Hughes had every opportunity to take any of Serra’s after the 1st pick. I think Serra should have stuck it to him by making Hughes’ last two fighters face each other – I agree Hughes would have done that 100%. And, his bum-buddy Dana would have allowed it.
Al the best to Serra – he deserves the respect for being an excellent coach and mentor.
Sera is the most arrogant,mouthy, low class coach TUF has ever had. Every time he puts his foot in his mouth acting like an ass, I think about Shoney Carter bitch slapping him.
The reason why they asked the question was to insure they got a great finale. George should have said MAC. Making sure they dont run into each other till then.
Matt, George and Ben are the next Semi-Finalists.
I dont understand what Richie and the Matt were trying to accomplish with the little meeting. I would be worried of them getting hurt during the practices with Hughs… Serras worries are valid. Why dont they have a guest coach come in for occasions like this people would not be quite to hesitant or put up a big fuss if they had Karo, GSP or Kos come and give em a hand one on one for a couple of days.
Where do they pick up most of the guys, I would hate to see who they actually turned away.
The show as a whole needs a twist… Since they are doing middle weights next they need to shift the dynamics.
No teams and invite a trainer every week for a variety, get the trainer to pick the fight of the night or even some kind of competition and the winner has to pick one person in the top vs one in the bottom…
Or just let everyone vote first round… top vote picks his fight. After we have a loser that guy can set up the next fight. Then 2 fighters and they can each pick a fighter. With 3 or more losers they can vote again. That guy picks his fight.
The coachs arnt what draws me to the show, its the fights and the little bit of training we get to see. I would love to see Karo put on a two day technical course on throwing/clinch. Or Matt Hughs take-downs. Matt Serra BJJ. Even go into different weight divisions for gods sake just to shake it up. People would tune in for sure.
The first show should be a really good feel for the guys, even minus a fight but clips of them in the past fighting or at thier old training center so we get a idea about what each guy takes to the table and what thier success’s are. Whos made it to the nationals or such in wrestling, judo etc…
Whos just started.
I really cant “connect” with any of the guys. And thats what makes for a great show.
I would like to see an international version of it.
Say a few from each area… (NA= 2 American,1 Canadian & 1 Mexican) (SA= 2 Brazil) (EU= 1 UK, 1German, 1 France, 1 Greek)
(Asia= 1 Russian, 1 Japan, 1 China, 1 Korean) (S. Asia/Australia= 1 Australian & 1 Indionesian)
I know it would be rough to get it all together but it would be worth it. Make sure everyone gets thier passports and can speak some English.
My confusion with this episode is when ORtiz’s team beat the crap out of Shamrocks team, they did not make the guys switch teams. Why not let Hughes just face the fact that he is not in the finals. What is the point of bringing in coaches to have fighters bond with for 6 weeks, to make them leave that coach 2 weeks before the end of the series. Especially after Hughes made fun of half of Serra’s picks. The two guys that went to his (Hughes) team are two of the guys he shat on when Serra picked them. Seems like Dana is throwing Hughes a bone towards redemption and saying he was the winning coach.
Aaah Yes. The old Jesse is back! I like you Jesse. I really, really like you.
[quote comment="210592"][quote comment="210574"][quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote]
It sometimes seems like I’m the only one who thinks like you. These coaches have the fighters for only a few weeks before the prelims, compared to the years of training the fighters had before coming on the show. If Hughes is directly responsible for the 6 losses, then he’s also directly responsible for Danzig, who we all know is probably the favorite to win the whole thing.
If anything, Serra is the one who’s looked like a bad coach. The guy he’s literally trained for years gave up like a little bitch in his very first fight. I’d put more stock into that than I would in Hughes’s coaching abilities based on a few weeks of training with guys he’s never met before.
I’m not saying I believe that Serra is a bad coach at all. I think that winning is on the shoulders of the fighter, and the coach can only help so much, which is why I’m hesitant to pass judgement on Hughes ability so quickly.[/quote]
Well look at the stats. Serra has one less coach. He brought majority of his team through the prelims. Hughes has more, one of whom has proven himself on TUF 5. Serra pulls his team together, we’ve seen it on two shows. He gave up his first legit pick for honouring a friendship. Yes, Joey’s attitude reflects badly on Serra, but how much of it was within his control? I dnt buy the nice guy act by Hughes at all. He’s out to repair his image after being exposed as a ego-maniac bully boy, and Serra seems more the genuine guy. I totally agree that it all depends on the fighter. All the technique & training in the world can’t give you balls and the will to stick it through. Man i love this site.
Did anyone catch Anderson Silva at the training facility watching the fight between Mac and John ? Hint he was the one wearing an obnoxiously bright red t shirt.
Mac Danzig looked extremely poised like he was at the park just taking a couple of jump shots. He never seemed to be thinking at all. Everything cae so easy for him. I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t win the entire competition. No one is going to beat him.
Oh and by the way, I’d rather spend 4 hours on line in the post office than spend “more time in the South”. There are undoubtedly more civilized places in Guam.
[quote comment="210709"]Did anyone catch Anderson Silva at the training facility watching the fight between Mac and John ? Hint he was the one wearing an obnoxiously bright red t shirt.
Ah man, no, I missed that. I would have liked to have seen it though. It would have been the coolest part of the show. I’ll keep an eye out for it, if I end up seeing the episode again during the marathon.
That probably won’t happen though because this was one of the more boring episodes so far. At one point, with all the images of insects, birds, etc, I thought I was watching some National Geographic show.
With all the editing, Mac just acts like pure depression coupled with that annoying voice of his. Who is ever really going to cheer for this man. How is the UFC ever going to promote this guy when he has absolutely zero personality (thankfully he can fight). Every Mac episode is boring as hell. Hightower’s hat is more amusing that Mac.
not sure if it was official before or if it was jus a bit of a rumour, but just incase anyone missed it – “Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, makes his UFC debut against unbeaten sharpshooter Lyoto Machida” at ufc 79 – which pretty much makes it the best fight card ever – sweet!
[quote comment="210592"][quote comment="210574"][quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote]
It sometimes seems like I’m the only one who thinks like you. These coaches have the fighters for only a few weeks before the prelims, compared to the years of training the fighters had before coming on the show. If Hughes is directly responsible for the 6 losses, then he’s also directly responsible for Danzig, who we all know is probably the favorite to win the whole thing.
If anything, Serra is the one who’s looked like a bad coach. The guy he’s literally trained for years gave up like a little bitch in his very first fight. I’d put more stock into that than I would in Hughes’s coaching abilities based on a few weeks of training with guys he’s never met before.
I’m not saying I believe that Serra is a bad coach at all. I think that winning is on the shoulders of the fighter, and the coach can only help so much, which is why I’m hesitant to pass judgement on Hughes ability so quickly.[/quote]
Serra didn’t even want Joey on the show. He knew Joey didn’t have the heart to make it there, and joey’s failed psych evaluation backed him up. Joey just badgered Matt into putting him on and took advantage of their friendship, then everything played out exactly as they suspected when Joey pussed out. I think between this season and TUF 4, Serra has proven himself to be an excellent coach.
funniest shit ever!!! Matt Serras Matt Hughes impresion.. its so funny .. i almost pissed my pants.. man was it ever good…Time out ref??? LMAO
Got to go to a meeting in 4 minutes, but I just wanted to quickly say that Mac simply dominated John no matter where the fight was taking place, just like Dana had said. I really loved how they did the editing so that right after Mac’s ‘I love you guys’ speach, the camera cuts to the Humming Bird feeder getting its first patron. I loved it.
Right off the bat, I, like most, had Mac as the favorite to win the whole thing, and I still do. After watching all of the first round fights, I have George clearly being number 2. I don’t know who is in charge of putting together the semi-finals, but it better be set up for Mac and George to meet in the finals, NOT in the semi finals. It’s like how the AFC championship game has been the ‘real’ super bowl each of the last few years. The only way I see them not meeting in the finals, is if one of them gets KO’d by Ben Saunders. I see Ben as the only spoiler to a Mac/George finals.
I will elaborate more after my meeting, and please post any feedback, as always.
Thanks,
VM
[quote comment="210650"]Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote
What a tool how can you say his cornering is poor, you are clearly the D**K head, not only has every one of his fighters followed his CLEAR AND CONCISE cornering, he tells them very intelligently what to do, not to mention his voice is very crisp so they can hear him, infact his voice overpowers the other corners, making it massively difficult for his fighter opponentS to hear THEIR corner , so that just leaves me to say-------- GET A CLUE WILL YA ![/quote]
I would say Serra is the better coach so far for 1 reason, and 1 reason only. He is a loud mouth. How many times throughout the season have you heard him yelling from the corner telling his team EXACTLY what to do, and the great part is, that unlike Hughes team, Serras team actually listens to him, and they come through because they have a BJJ Black Belt in the corner telling them exactly how to do stuff. Serra is a coach at home as well though, he watches people fight in his gym all day and knows how to tell someone what to do. It’s no fault of Hughes’.
I have George as my favorite to win it all. I think it’s gonna be him and Mac in the finals, and George winning by submission in the 2nd round.
[quote comment="210720"]Got to go to a meeting in 4 minutes, but I just wanted to quickly say that Mac simply dominated John no matter where the fight was taking place, just like Dana had said. I really loved how they did the editing so that right after Mac’s ‘I love you guys’ speach, the camera cuts to the Humming Bird feeder getting its first patron. I loved it.
Right off the bat, I, like most, had Mac as the favorite to win the whole thing, and I still do. After watching all of the first round fights, I have George clearly being number 2. I don’t know who is in charge of putting together the semi-finals, but it better be set up for Mac and George to meet in the finals, NOT in the semi finals. It’s like how the AFC championship game has been the ‘real’ super bowl each of the last few years. The only way I see them not meeting in the finals, is if one of them gets KO’d by Ben Saunders. I see Ben as the only spoiler to a Mac/George finals.
I will elaborate more after my meeting, and please post any feedback, as always.
Thanks,
VM[/quote]
I think they gave Mac and George the easiest route to the semi-finals. John didn’t even have a chance against Mac, and I would be stunned if Hightower makes it out of the first round with George. I would have liked seeing the Hughes guys go against each other. Ben vs. George would have been a good fight as well. I was impressed with Tommy in his fight against warmachine. Tommy reminds me of Koschek. A tough wrestler who doesn’t finish guys but is hard to control. Tommy could be a dark horse in this thing. He’s strong and has shown he’s game. Ben vs. Tommy should be the best fight of the quarterfinals.
MY FAVORTIE PART OF THE SHOW WAS THE LIZARD!! The lizards chillin and all of the sudden darts as the camera switches to Mac standing up. I was laughing my ass off!!
[quote post="3902"]It’s like how the AFC championship game has been the “real’ super bowl each of the last few years. [/quote]
It’s all Cowboys this year!!!
[quote comment="210621"]“Having run out of reasons to appear on camera, Jared gives his take on the fight complete with gratuitous dip spit. I have to believe that with today’s knowledge about chewing tobacco and oral cancer such a move is done purely for spectacle.
I’m not going to pass judgment but Big League Chew is half the price and double the pleasure.”
-You should spend more time in the South.[/quote]
I’m an ignorant Yank, but damn I love grits
Mac is like the Ed herman of TUF 3, has all the tools but won’t win it. He would place 2nd to George to everyone’s suprise at he finale
Also, what was Hughes thinking when he went over to Serra and was like “Do you need my help picking the fighters”, i’m like your guys lost, do come befriending the teammates by saying i was gonna choose you and you..what an asshole..
[quote comment="210719"] I know it wants to attract the male viewer with nude scenes of Angelina Jolie but that ride has more miles on it than my sister’s Corolla.[/quote]
LOL..that was just insanely funny
[quote comment="210738"][quote comment="210621"]“Having run out of reasons to appear on camera, Jared gives his take on the fight complete with gratuitous dip spit. I have to believe that with today’s knowledge about chewing tobacco and oral cancer such a move is done purely for spectacle.
I’m not going to pass judgment but Big League Chew is half the price and double the pleasure.”
-You should spend more time in the South.[/quote]
I’m an ignorant Yank, but damn I love grits[/quote]
Grits are disgusting unless you dump about two pounds of sugar on them. And as far as the tobacco use goes, well, when I need a hit of nicotine, rare as that may be, dip is the most effective delivery system, but it tastes gross. A nice leafy chaw like Redman or Levi Garrett or just a plain old Marlboro is my preferred method.
[quote comment="210719"]funniest shit ever!!! Matt Serras Matt Hughes impresion.. its so funny .. i almost pissed my pants.. man was it ever good…Time out ref??? LMAO[/quote]
Come on guys you didnt see this….that was totaly the best part of the hole episode..
In my opinion this was one of the best episodes yet, the whole Danzig negative atitude scareing the animals was some funny shit and how poetic to end off the show with that bird in danzigs feeder after his speech.
I dont know about you guys but i actually like danzig He is pretty dam funny He is gonna win it all Garanteed!
[quote comment="210590"]Can Dana learn to toss a coin?[/quote]
Funny shit man! That coin went on forever
[quote post="3902"]Serra also lost one of his top guys in George Sotiropoulos on the first day and lowering his chances for a champion[/quote]
Serra did not lose George. George is still in the tourney, and is actually Serra’s top guy (according to Serra). George is the well rounded Aussie that fought and beat J-Rock and is fighting The Turd (Hightower) in the second round. You must be referring to the guy that got injured in the first episode and went to the doctor and kept on screaming “I want to fight, I’m no poosy!”
[quote comment="210625"]Hughes is a prick, but Serra is also a douche. The both are coming across as dicks. Danzig’s win brought the hummingbird, how cheesy, just show fights cut the BS.[/quote]
So you would prefer to just see the fights and nothing else? All you would be left with is a 3 minute television show in most cases. And you know what? If you have a DVR or even a VCR you can record TUF and fast forward right to the fight. Then we don’t have to listen to you complain about aspects of the show that other people enjoy. I loved how they cut to the hummingbird at the end. Classic.
[quote post="3902"]Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again[/quote]
I disagree. Everything that I’ve seen so far shows that Serra is an excellent corner man and prepares his fighters well.
[quote post="3902"]Tommy reminds me of Koschek. A tough wrestler who doesn’t finish guys but is hard to control. Tommy could be a dark horse in this thing. He’s strong and has shown he’s game. Ben vs. Tommy should be the best fight of the quarterfinals. [/quote]
Tommy doesn’t remind me of Kos. Tommy looks to have better GnP than Koschek did when he was on TUF. He LITERALLY layed and prayed. That is a very commonly used expression, and if you look it up in the dictionary, you’d see ‘KOS TUF Season 1′. He couldn’t do any damage from the top. I would compare Tommy to a younger Matt Hughes rather than a Koschek. Even considering thier mentalities and backgrounds.
I agree that Ben vs Tommy will be the most entertaing fight this round. If the fight stays standing, Ben wins. If Tommy can impose his will and keep Ben on his back for the majority of the fight, Tommy will win.
[quote comment="210759"][quote comment="210719"]funniest shit ever!!! Matt Serras Matt Hughes impresion.. its so funny .. i almost pissed my pants.. man was it ever good…Time out ref??? LMAO[/quote]
Come on guys you didnt see this….that was totaly the best part of the hole episode..[/quote]
This was not on this weeks episode. It was last weeks episode.
I wonder what would have happened if John took the time he spent getting beach muscles, tattoos and a tan and got some more BJJ training in. I bet he might have not pulled that turtle impression with Mac.
the hummingbird at the end was priceless, i laughed for like 5 minutes straight after seeing that…
Any predictions on who will have a future fighting in the UFC, regardless of who wins?
Mac and George have to be sure bets. However, some of the lower tier guys from earlier seasons semm to be doing well.
[quote comment="210594"][quote comment="210574"][quote comment="210558"]just kainda shows that hughes should stick to fighting and leave the training to other people[/quote]
So if one of Hughes’ fighters wins it all, will you say that Hughes’ was the better trainer? Didn’t think so.
They have only have these guys for all of six weeks. Hughes’ downfall was in selecting his team. Besides, serra’s cornering is as useless as a screen door on a submarine. His guy will be in a rear naked choke, and he’s still saying, “nice, nice, nice, what did we talk about, looking good, keep working it” Then he mumbles something about Hughes’ dick again.[/quote]
I agree with JR in Hughes team selection, but Serra’s a far better coach, he doesn’t over work his guys, keeps them fresh enough in practice so they can concentrate on learning and strategy. Even if Hughes’ guys Mac or Tommy win TUF, I believe Serra got the maximum potential out of his fighters so far. Serra maximized their talents whereas Hughes has not. Serra also lost one of his top guys in George Sotiropoulos on the first day and lowering his chances for a champion. Of course Serra is not without error, afterall he boxed himself into a corner by feeling obligated to pick Joey “Little Bitch” Scarola. God I still hate that guy. lol.
Most of the coaching done is what goes on in practice. In a fight there’s very little a coach can do but remind his guys what to do if they’re not reacting properly.[/quote]
do you think hughes would work his guys any harder than he works himself? he would know what it takes to be a champion and have a successful championship reign. you talk about serra boxing himself in a corner by being obligated to pick, in your words, Joey “Little Bitch” Scarola, whom serra has trained for years, shouldn’t he be judged as a coach for someone he has coached for years or someone he coached for 6 weeks?
My thoughts on the show last night.
I knew Mac was winning this fight, easy.
I can live with Serras picks, whats he to do, team serra vs team serra it happens. I like the fact that Serra didn’t pick who he was giving to Hughes, it’s like their all his kids and the mutal respect that he has for his team and them for their coach may be the best chemistry ultimate fighter has ever had.
As far as the other fights are setup
Moving on Sotiropolus over hightower
troy mandoloniz over arroyo
ben sauders over tommy speers
with serras picks and the coin tosses still sets up my original pick for the finale of Mac Danzig-vs-Troy Mandoloniz
And to answer the question above mine(jrandolph)
I think this season will produce as many top fighters as season 1 did(Danzig,sotiropolus,saunders,arroyo,speer,and Roman Mitichyan the fighter who got hurt that was originally on the show before Jon Koppenhaven. Roman comes from Karos camp and trains with Manny Gamburyan from season 5.
I agree with VM’s assessment of the Tommy/Ben fight. If it stays standing, Ben will open up that cut while picking Tommy apart. If Tommy takes him down and starts dropping elbows and punches on Ben, he’s going to win by TKO.
Ben appears to have a pretty tough road to winning TUF 6. I think Barrera was one of the tougher guys who lost in the first round. Now Ben needs to beat Tommy, who is probably the #4 guy in the house(I’d go Mac, George, and Ben as the top 3). If he wins and George beats Hightower, Ben will probably get Mac in the semis. Then, he would still need to beat George in the finals. That’s about as tough a road to being a TUF champ as anyone has taken.
Regardless of who is the better coach, regardless of who is being arrogant or acting like a lil bitch, regardless of the show itself. These individual fighters are getting an opportunity of a lifetime in training with world champion fighters like Hughes and Serra for 6 weeks. The show only gives a glimpse of the real work thats being done and focuses mostly on the drama. I feel that in order to be at that level there has to be a measure of arrogance mixed in with confidence. Both coaches have demonstrated that behavior. So who the F cares about Serra or Hughes being a better coach. They got guys for six weeks. They both are competitors at the heart, have their own training facilities,they both dont like each other and they both have their followers because they have been great fighters themselves. It will be settled in December and my guess is that they will have more respect for each other after their fight.
Just as a note though. I like Mac against George in the finals.
hey. speaking of corey hill, WHERE THE FUCK IS COREY HILL??!!
[quote comment="210951"]hey. speaking of corey hill, WHERE THE FUCK IS COREY HILL??!![/quote]
Word…
[quote comment="210847"]I agree with VM’s assessment of the Tommy/Ben fight. If it stays standing, Ben will open up that cut while picking Tommy apart. If Tommy takes him down and starts dropping elbows and punches on Ben, he’s going to win by TKO.
Ben appears to have a pretty tough road to winning TUF 6. I think Barrera was one of the tougher guys who lost in the first round. Now Ben needs to beat Tommy, who is probably the #4 guy in the house(I’d go Mac, George, and Ben as the top 3). If he wins and George beats Hightower, Ben will probably get Mac in the semis. Then, he would still need to beat George in the finals. That’s about as tough a road to being a TUF champ as anyone has taken.[/quote]
Agreed. Ben does not have it easy and if he wins, and there are no upsets otherwise, he will by far of had the toughest road to winning the TUF championship. Because if you think about it, this is only the 2nd season of 16 fighters in the same weight class. There used to only be 8, so that is one less fight. (Except for the first two seasons where a win didn’t advance you to the next round. Diego Sanchez and Rashad Evans had to win 4 fights to be the TUF champion.) But the best part about it, is that Ben laughes all goofily (Goofy with a ‘ly’ at the end) when he gets hit in the face. I love it.
[quote comment="210653"]Hey Hughes haters! During this season,
Outside of being a bad coach tell me why Hughes is a dick, because outside of being a good coach Serra’s a dick. Chew on that a little. Serra has been an ass all season. Hughes has been professional. Serra’s a better coach, but Hughes is the better person. Chew some more.[/quote]
why is hughes a better person, because he doesn’t “cuss” on tv, and reads the bible. it takes more then that to be a good person. he isn’t there to make friends he claims, but seriously who would want to be friends with a dude with a terrible napoleon complex
Does anyone really believe Serra got to pick those quarter-final rights? NO WAY! It’s clear if Serra had actual control he would have had Tommy fight first…. Wound still fairly fresh and more likely to impact the fight.
Those quarter-final match-ups are ALL Dana’s doing. I guarantee Dana went into that room and said, “The finals are going to be George versus Mac, how do you want us to get there?”
It looks like they sat down, ranked the fighters one through eight and paired them up in the standard 8-team bracket tourney scale.
#1 George
#8 Hightower
#4 Troy M.(not sure who would be #4 &5)
#5 Matt A.
#3 Ben S.
#6 Tommy S.
#2 Mac D.
#7 John K.
So if the bracket holds true, we’ll see Mac versus Ben, which should be a pretty good fight. And then George versus Troy/Matt winner, setting up the finale that Dana wants. And to be honest, probably the final that most of us want too. But don’t kid yourself intot hinking Serra was in complete control of these picks… No way!
I loved the shonie carter bitch slap Serra is an arrogant one hit wonder and got lucky with his picks
[quote comment="211071"]I loved the shonie carter bitch slap Serra is an arrogant one hit wonder and got lucky with his picks[/quote]
actually Serra is just a much better coach than Hughes.
I am sure dana had some doing as to the order of the fights.
All he would have to say is Danzing is gonna take it so whynot let george get as far as possible.
[quote comment="211043"]Does anyone really believe Serra got to pick those quarter-final rights? NO WAY! It’s clear if Serra had actual control he would have had Tommy fight first…. Wound still fairly fresh and more likely to impact the fight.
Those quarter-final match-ups are ALL Dana’s doing. I guarantee Dana went into that room and said, “The finals are going to be George versus Mac, how do you want us to get there?”
It looks like they sat down, ranked the fighters one through eight and paired them up in the standard 8-team bracket tourney scale.
#1 George
#8 Hightower
#4 Troy M.(not sure who would be #4 &5)
#5 Matt A.
#3 Ben S.
#6 Tommy S.
#2 Mac D.
#7 John K.
So if the bracket holds true, we’ll see Mac versus Ben, which should be a pretty good fight. And then George versus Troy/Matt winner, setting up the finale that Dana wants. And to be honest, probably the final that most of us want too. But don’t kid yourself intot hinking Serra was in complete control of these picks… No way![/quote]
I completely agree..it’s all a business in the reality tv world. I don’t believe anything I see. The funny part is Dana blasts Randy’s hollywood agent over and over again, while creating fake hollywood scripts himself.
Please someone tell me that Matt Hughes wasn’t lying when he said he only had a couple fights left to go..please.
[quote comment="210709"]Did anyone catch Anderson Silva at the training facility watching the fight between Mac and John ? Hint he was the one wearing an obnoxiously bright red t shirt.
Mac Danzig looked extremely poised like he was at the park just taking a couple of jump shots. He never seemed to be thinking at all. Everything cae so easy for him. I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t win the entire competition. No one is going to beat him.
Oh and by the way, I’d rather spend 4 hours on line in the post office than spend “more time in the South”. There are undoubtedly more civilized places in Guam.[/quote]
What do have against Guam?
Mac looks like he has the tools to win the entire thing. His take down defense seems A class. Shows like this have really given us an insight into the fighter’s charaters. If it was’nt for TUF i’d still have alot of admiration for Ken Shamrock and Matt Hughes. Takes more than knuckles and muscles to win my respect. Oh yeah and the ‘count’ can now remove the ‘o’ from his name:)