Nick Diaz EliteXC
As expected, there is a new EliteXC 160-pound champion.

Except it isn’t Nick Diaz.

Underdog KJ Noons brought his A-game to Corpus Christi Saturday night as he upset the veteran Diaz with a technical knockout stoppage (cuts). Known for his unorthodox yet effective striking, Diaz was picked apart on his feet and had little to offer against Noons’ impressive standup.

The fight was halted after just one round, as the ringside physician felt the two nasty cuts Diaz suffered above both his eyes were severe enough (and bloody enough) to affect his vision. In a turn of events that I’m sure will shock most MMA fans, a sour Diaz stormed out of the cage with both middle fingers raised.

Here’s a post-fight snip from the Stockton-based fighter:

“He landed some good shots (to cause the cuts). But he was such a small guy. I couldn’t get a grip on him. He doesn’t hit that hard. I knew I should have boxed him more.”

Also on the card, former street fighter Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson steamrolled his way to victory over Bo Cantrell in a mere 19 seconds. Cantrell quickly tapped after eating two shots that put him to the mat.

The crowd was not amused.

Welterweight Jake Shields continued his winning ways with a first round submission over Mike Pyle and Yves Edwards got one step closer to getting back into title contention with a submission win over Nick Gonzales.

The complete results for EliteXC Renegade:

  • KJ Noons def. Nick Diaz – TKO (doctor’s stoppage – R1)
  • Kevin Ferguson def. Bo Cantrell – TKO (strikes – R1)
  • Jake Shields def. Mike Pyle – Submission (rear naked choke – R1)
  • Kyle Noke def. Seth Kleinbeck – TKO (doctor’s stoppage – R2)
  • Antonio Silva def. Jonathan Wiezorek – Submission (rear naked choke – R1)
  • Geoff Bumstead def. Robert Ruiz – Submission (rear naked choke – R1)
  • Yves Edwards def. Nick Gonzalez – Submission (rear naked choke – R1)
  • Matt Lucas def. Jon Kirk – Unanimous Decision
  • Brett Rogers def. Ralph Kelly – Submission (strikes – R1)
  • Jae Suk Lim def. Daniel Pineda – Submission (rear naked choke – R1)

Catch an encore of Saturday’s EliteXC telecast on Tuesday, November 13 at 10 p.m. ET on SHO 2. “Renegade also airs on Tuesday, November 13 at 10 p.m. (SHO 2) and Wednesday, November 14 at 12:30 a.m. (ShowTime).

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Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 03:40:35

Jake Shields is the man!! His bjj has come a long way and I was glad to see him walk away with another 1st round victory.

 
Comment by ken
2007-11-11 03:48:13

wow alot of round 1 ends of fights

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 03:56:37

Kimbo’s fight was quick, I thought I was going to be more entertained. It looked to me like Kimbo knocked the wind out of Bo with a body shot, hit him with a for-arm, and then Bo kinda dove to the ground and started taping. 19 seconds? man that sucked.
I hope they give Kimbo a tougher fight next time. Bo Cantrell doesn’t desreve to fight mma.

 
Comment by mad_drummer
2007-11-11 04:11:51

im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..

 
Comment by The Truth
2007-11-11 04:14:54

FIX!!!!

WORK!!!!

Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix! 100% guarantee!

Bo didn’t even get touched. The ONLY punch that landed was to his body, and NO WAY was he KO’d.

He tapped before he even hit the mat…

FIX!!!!

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.

 
Comment by JonnyBoy
2007-11-11 04:20:43

This must’ve been boring… 8 out of 10 ended in round 1, 5 of these 8 ended with rear naked choke… *Zzzzzzzznore*

Nice to see though that KJ Noons picked Diaz apart.

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 04:29:04

[quote post="3858"]Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]

I hope they put on a rematch, so Diaz can show you how much he “blows”?,,Diaz is a top fighter pound4pound in mma..
Sure your right, Diaz was getting worked, but his cardio is great and KJ was gassing. If Diaz didn’t get cut’ that 2nd round would of been alot different then the 1st.
…nonetheless…Props to Noons, I knew he could strike but he showed excellent takedown defence.

 
Comment by Mike&Ike
2007-11-11 04:31:25

Nick Diaz had cuts above both eyes, one right on the eyelid. I wish they hadn’t stopped the fight, Noons was throwing wild punches that landed.

Kimbo won just by showing up, Cantrell shouldn’t be allowed in the ring ever again, he made that fight look fixed, I hope it wasn’t.

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 04:31:48

BTW; even though i gave kj noons “props” i still hate him!!
He beat one of my favorite fighters!!!…BASTARD!!

j/k

 
Comment by IceMuncher
2007-11-11 06:05:38

[quote comment="207708"]im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..[/quote]

He’s not that good. He was dropped from the UFC because he lost 3 straight fights. He beat Gomi in a headscratcher (Gomi could barely lift his arms after 3 minutes???), and suddenly he became a great fighter in the eyes of the internet fandom. He’s decent, but not great. Just like Serra.

 
Comment by hbdale309
2007-11-11 06:11:13

How long does scar tissue take to heal. Srsly, if Diaz doesn’t let that shit heal up he’ll just continue to have the cut problems and it seems to be getting worse each fight.

Anyway, Diaz would have worn KJ down and subbed him in the second or third round – REVANCHE!

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 06:23:31

[quote post="3858"]im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..[/quote]

[quote post="3858"]He’s not that good. He was dropped from the UFC because he lost 3 straight fights. He beat Gomi in a headscratcher (Gomi could barely lift his arms after 3 minutes???), and suddenly he became a great fighter in the eyes of the internet fandom. He’s decent, but not great. Just like Serra. [/quote]

…”He’s not that good”…????
Yeah right? He beat Gomi in a WAR. Far from a “headscratcher” That fight was one of the “fights of the year” and Diaz finished Gomi with a Gogo…c’mon man a f*%kin gogo!, and you say it was a “headscratcher”???

Here are Nick Diaz’s last 3 fights he had in the UFC.
Sean Sherk/Nick Diaz-UFC.59..Sherk wins decision.
Josh Neer/Nick Diaz-UFC62..Diaz wins submission(kimura)
Gleison Tibau/Nick Diaz-UFC65..Diaz wins TKO
So tell me how he lost 3 straight fights?

 
Comment by Insain
2007-11-11 06:35:58

[quote comment="207733"][quote comment="207708"]im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..[/quote]

He’s not that good. He was dropped from the UFC because he lost 3 straight fights. He beat Gomi in a headscratcher (Gomi could barely lift his arms after 3 minutes???), and suddenly he became a great fighter in the eyes of the internet fandom. He’s decent, but not great. Just like Serra.[/quote]

young icemuncher – what do you know – diaz lost to the UFC elite not no bums and he lost by decision !! – he beat gomi in fashion – he is that good – but not like serra – serra is in another league – he’d rip through eliteXC like he ripped through gsp. serra is the real deal (kinda obvious given that he’s holding the belt) , and given nick diaz’ age, he’s the real thing too.

 
Comment by Madfist_Dave
2007-11-11 06:52:31

How about Kimbo Slice in the UFC? I saw some streetfights of him, he’s a tough dude. But could he be competitive in the UFC? How do you guys think about?

 
Comment by dsi_chameleon
2007-11-11 07:42:37

damn jake shields is a badass.

mike pyle is not joke and that was just domination.
i think jake shields is top 5 welterweights in the world

1. gsp
2. matt hughes
3. jon fitch
4. matt serra
5. jake shields

 
Comment by DJR
2007-11-11 07:52:04

I would like to see Kimbo fight Chuck Liddell. The Iceman would destroy him.

 
Comment by sureal
2007-11-11 08:29:42

I’m a fan of Diaz, but he needs to temper his passion with a little professionalism.

That knee to Diaz’s head during an attempted takedown looked like it really smarted

See for yourself—>

http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/11/nick-diaz-vs-kj-noons-elitexc-renegade.html

 
Comment by bpx
2007-11-11 08:56:04

[quote comment="207709"]FIX!!!!

WORK!!!!

Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix!

100% guarantee!

Bo didn’t even get touched. The ONLY punch that landed was to his body, and NO WAY was he KO’d.

He tapped before he even hit the mat…

FIX!!!!

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]

Maybe the Kimbo fight was fixed, but this is the 5th loss in a row for Bo Cantrell. Maybe he is done fighting at this point.

 
Comment by CRAIG
2007-11-11 10:46:04

Bo Cantrell needs his contract to be taken away asap!

 
Comment by gavin
2007-11-11 10:55:26

A couple of thoughts:

1. Nick Diaz looked horrible both last night and in his last XC fight against Mike Eina(?). He looks like he’s moving in slow-mo.

2. Bo Cantrell should be paid $0 for that crap he pulled. That was simply horrible. So much for giving the fans a good show.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-11-11 11:01:10

I watched the fight last night, and if they intend on competing with the UFC or even the WEC with this product they are in for a rude awakening.

Nick Diaz’s fight was stopped way prematurely, he actually said before the fight that the only way he was going to loss was through a cut. He was getting hit pretty good by Noones. Noones put Diaz on his butt once but that is nohing new for him. He stromed out of thecring before anyone could speak with him. It was totaly bogus he could have went on. They did not even ask him like in the UFC, If he felt ok to continue and then just warn him if it gets any worse they will call it. It was trashy call.

Kimbo vs. Bo “Glancing Blow” Cantrell was quite possibly the biggest dive in sports history. He got punched in the armpit then a glancing forearm to the side of the head. As soon as he hit the canvas he was tapping out, before Kijmbo got ontop and finished off the fight. I do not even understand why they gave that guy the op. to fight.

The Antonio Silva and Jake Shields fight were the 2 best fights. Jake Shields fought Ray Pile from the Team Couture.
pyle started off real good stuffing the takedowns , showed some good hand speed, but eventually was taken down and submitted. Antonia Silva is a really good fighter,trained with Americn Top Team and the Nog Brothers.
He won his fight wih a rear naked choke. He completely overwhelmed Johnathan Woreizak on the feet then got his first win by submission.

OVerall the night went really fast it started at 10pm with some dancing anad ended about 15 minutes to 12 am…

 
Comment by Mike
2007-11-11 12:29:18

[quote comment="207733"][quote comment="207708"]im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..[/quote]

He’s not that good. He was dropped from the UFC because he lost 3 straight fights. He beat Gomi in a headscratcher (Gomi could barely lift his arms after 3 minutes???), and suddenly he became a great fighter in the eyes of the internet fandom. He’s decent, but not great. Just like Serra.[/quote]

Get your facts straight bud he won his last two fights in UFC. He beat Gomi in a war give the man his props. It sucked that his fight was stopped last night but he will be back.

 
Comment by UFC BABY !!
2007-11-11 12:58:51

OK for all of you Kimbo Slice fans out there, i hope you know that fight was fixed. That was stupid. I never in my life would pay for any other PPV unless it is a UFC PPV. Nick Diaz thinks he can handle the UFC when he can’t beat somone in EliteXC ? HAHA. Think about it, there is some reason Kimbo isn’t in the UFC. He just wouldn’t make it.

 
Comment by JAson
2007-11-11 13:03:07

Those cuts were pretty bad locations. it had to be stopped

 
Comment by Game
2007-11-11 13:44:58

Nick is a good fighter, he’s definately in the weight class that suits him the most. Apart from the fact that he lost his last 2 fights(i count the Aina as a loss), he needs to relax on his atitude and become more matured.

 
Comment by Yoububg
2007-11-11 13:52:31

Is the commentator for Elite XC the same tool bag that Crocop punked in Pride?

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 13:54:18

[quote comment="207842"]Is the commentator for Elite XC the same tool bag that Crocop punked in Pride?[/quote]

Yes.

 
Comment by Xad
2007-11-11 14:01:32

You could see in the pre-fight interviews, he had a large scar above his eye – looks like he didn’t have enough time to let it heal properly and it opened up again.

He had blood in his damn eyes when he went to his corner, how much worse do you want it to be before it gets stopped? If it continued Nick would not have been able to do much other than get hit with power shots as he wouldn’t have seen them coming. His eye turned red with all the blood. Can’t really fight if you can’t even see the damn opponent.

 
Comment by Fidel Cashflow
2007-11-11 14:02:29

Nick Diaz did win his last couple fights in the UFC, and when he lost 3 in a row it was to, if I’m not mistaken, Karo Parisyan, Diego Sanchez, and Sean Sherk. They were all decisions and the one with Karo could have gone either way, honestly.

Nick Diaz is a beast when he’s on top of his game, but from what I gather about his last 2 fights, he’s been in a rough spot. Hopefully he’ll get his game back together as he’s definitely an animal when he’s on point.

It’s amazing that the same fighter that TKO’d robbie lawler just got beat by KJ Noons.

 
Comment by ABM!2!
2007-11-11 14:41:12

That Lawler TKO was fricking wack. Lawler was swinging like an amateur with his hands at his waist. He got punched in the face with a weak punch and went down like a ton of bricks. Truly bizarre.

 
Comment by JTK5
2007-11-11 14:53:28

[quote post="3858"]sureal
Nov 11th, 2007 at 8:29 am Quote this comment
I’m a fan of Diaz, but he needs to temper his passion with a little professionalism.
That knee to Diaz’s head during an attempted takedown looked like it really smarted
See for yourself—>
http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/11/nick-diaz-vs-kj-noons-elitexc-renegade.html [/quote]

He thanks for the post!!! Man Diaz got worked. I think Diaz is a monster on the ground – but that stand up “pepper” crap just isn’t going to get it done anymore. The fight may have been stopped early (they were both in really bad spots), but I didn’t see anything that would make me think round 2 would be any different. Even when Diaz got his take down Noons got right out and up with no problem. Bam!

 
Comment by Jesse Canadian MMA
2007-11-11 15:11:25

Brutal pic
nick-vs-Freddy K
checked out the Elite xc site and there looks like there is a good handful of promising fighters
also the lost and found of the ufc(loiseau,edwards,lawler,roderiquez,diaz etc)
Fighters that struck my interest are:
ww Paul Daley 15-6-2 from the UK-I actually thought I heard/seen his name in rumor for the ufc jan card.
Edson Berto(155lbs) 12-3 trains with babalu and co.
mushin corbbrey(155lbs)5-2 not the most impressive record but looks like a beast as well as Bobby Mcmasters(155lbs 7-1)
7 wins in a row mostly KO)
Ross Ebanez(170lbs) 14-5
also WW jake shields impressive record 19-4
and in the HW division a man by the name of Jefferson Silva 250lbs 4-1 and looks cut like Chieck Kongo.
Other than the ex ufc names I havent really seen any of these guys fight but I read their profiles and they caught my attention.

 
Comment by sycboi
2007-11-11 15:20:03

weak punch? is that similar to the weak punch that rampage used to drop liddell or the weak shot that randy dropped tim with? A short straight right to the jaw will cause your head to wiggle and short your brain out! It doesn’t take much, I’ve been hit by a girl (16, 115pnds) at my club and I was dropped, my sifu who weighs 210 kicked me behind my ear and it did nothing, so it comes down to the brain “jiggling”

 
Comment by Joe Gonz-Trenton NJ
2007-11-11 15:24:57

Nick Diaz has suffered cuts in several of his last few fights, he needs time off and possibly some “professional repair” work in order to be an MMA force. Without this, he could be stopped on cuts in any future fights, Still Diaz is tougher than Noons, although Noons has good technique.
OK. Moving on to Kimbo. STOP BABYING THIS GUY! Come on Mr. Shaw lets give “Mr. Slice” a real test. Here are but a few possible opponents. I expect ELITE XC and Gary Shaw to take notice and look at my list of opponents as “serious matchmaking”. In fact, I am avliable for the job if Mr. Shaw is in need.
Wesley Corriea! That’s right. Someone who is not the most gifted skill wise but has taken punishment from the best. This would be a “test” to see how far Kimbo can go. Personally, I don’t care if he trains at Coutures gym or if Bas is his coach. Put the man in a fight so that the fans get their money’s worth!
What about a Ray Mercer rematch? Give Mercer some better preparation time.
Don’t get me wrong. Kimbo is one scary dude. And he can fight, but as Gannon proved(hey what about Gannon?)take it to the “bad bully” and he might cave under the beating.
Just my two cents…

 
Comment by rubberDUCKman
2007-11-11 15:36:46

KIMBOS THE MAN

 
Comment by Brandon
2007-11-11 16:18:06

haha good to see nick diaz loose.

 
Comment by Dominic
2007-11-11 16:23:04

If Jake Shields is top 5 for beating pyle, then half the guys in the IFL are top 10.

 
Comment by DeathbyHighKick
2007-11-11 16:25:03

[quote comment="207709"]FIX!!!!

WORK!!!!

Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix!

100% guarantee!

Bo didn’t even get touched. The ONLY punch that landed was to his body, and NO WAY was he KO’d.

He tapped before he even hit the mat…

FIX!!!!

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]

What do you call his victory over Gomi then?

 
Comment by leroy
2007-11-11 16:32:55

[quote comment="207890"][quote comment="207709"]

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]

What do you call his victory over Gomi then?[/quote]

Come on now. The guy spells the word cuts “cutes”. You can’t really take that guy seriously.

 
Comment by robin
2007-11-11 16:56:12

Diaz lost vs Karo too…

Dont forget that one.

 
Comment by frankthetank
2007-11-11 17:03:57

KIMBO SLICE VS TANK ABBOT???? Kimbo called him out awhile back now its time for elite XC to make it happen. Im sure tank is game even though hes probably in a old folks home. Beside i dont think tank is gonna take a fall for anyone like that bitch BO CANTrell

 
Comment by ecamp72
2007-11-11 17:05:31

Bottom line, Koons worked Diaz. I like and respect Diaz, but he got out boxed; not to mention Koons’ take down defense was excellent. The second round would have been the same. Oh, and by the way Diaz’s win over Gomi was an example of how good Diaz really is when he is prepared for a fight.

 
Comment by Oskarbravo
2007-11-11 17:07:05

[quote comment="207709"]FIX!!!!

WORK!!!!

Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix!

100% guarantee!

Bo didn’t even get touched. The ONLY punch that landed was to his body, and NO WAY was he KO’d.

He tapped before he even hit the mat…

FIX!!!!

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]
Do you have a masters degree in English?

 
Comment by ecamp72
2007-11-11 17:10:20

Noons, not Koons.

 
Comment by gregg
2007-11-11 17:26:39

k if kimbos so good let him fight ant silva

 
Comment by Insain
2007-11-11 17:33:30

hey Mania – off topic but how come you’ve got news categories for retards like blake bowman and danny abbadi but not one for Cung Le ? surely youve gotta get on this – he’s undefeated and looks mint in every fight – well wanna see him in the ufc

 
Comment by J.Cameron
2007-11-11 17:40:43

[quote comment="207861"]weak punch? is that similar to the weak punch that rampage used to drop liddell or the weak shot that randy dropped tim with? A short straight right to the jaw will cause your head to wiggle and short your brain out! It doesn’t take much, I’ve been hit by a girl (16, 115pnds) at my club and I was dropped, my sifu who weighs 210 kicked me behind my ear and it did nothing, so it comes down to the brain “jiggling”[/quote]

No one knows who you are and cares who you are. If you got your as s kicked by a girl that’s your problem.
Now back to the Kimbo fight, if you can call it one. How much did they pay Bo to just fall like that?

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-11-11 17:56:12

i think its funny alot of you guys are saying it was fixed.have you ever been hit in the ribs by Kimbo,yeah that what i thought. The Diaz fight was bullshit.i also heard one of the commentators saying something like Jake Sheilds wants to fight GSP.yeah right I’d love to see that massacre ole Jake would figure out half way through the first round he f@#cked up by wanting that fight

 
Comment by ABM!2!
2007-11-11 18:00:32

[quote comment="207861"]weak punch? is that similar to the weak punch that rampage used to drop liddell or the weak shot that randy dropped tim with? A short straight right to the jaw will cause your head to wiggle and short your brain out! It doesn’t take much, I’ve been hit by a girl (16, 115pnds) at my club and I was dropped, my sifu who weighs 210 kicked me behind my ear and it did nothing, so it comes down to the brain “jiggling”[/quote]

That punch wasn’t to the jaw. It hit Lawler in the face and skimmed his jaw. Besides you’re just reinforcing my point if you’re saying that a weak girl punch can a knock a person out. Comparing the Rampage/Liddell, Randy/Sylvia punches to Diaz’s punch against Lawler is just plain stupid. Watch the knockout again buddy. THe only weirder knockout punch is Liddel’s against Randleman.

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-11-11 18:39:16

[quote comment="207754"]damn jake shields is a badass.

mike pyle is not joke and that was just domination.
i think jake shields is top 5 welterweights in the world

1. gsp
2. matt hughes
3. jon fitch
4. matt serra
5. jake shields[/quote]

Even though BJ PENN is a Lightweight again, here’s my list:

1. Matt Serra
2. BJ PENN
3. GSP
4. Matt Hughes
5. Jake Shields

*The only reason I put Matt Serra ahead of BJ PENN is because he’s the champ. No matter what anyone says, as long as a person has the belt, they are the NUMBER 1.

 
Comment by Googan
2007-11-11 18:40:27

Disappointing show to say the least. Nick looked terrible out there. Sluggish striking, predictable takedown attempts..
And they need to fire Goldberg.. that guy is annoying and horrible at commentating.

 
Comment by jdawg
2007-11-11 18:40:43

[quote comment="207952"][quote comment="207861"]weak punch? is that similar to the weak punch that rampage used to drop liddell or the weak shot that randy dropped tim with? A short straight right to the jaw will cause your head to wiggle and short your brain out! It doesn’t take much, I’ve been hit by a girl (16, 115pnds) at my club and I was dropped, my sifu who weighs 210 kicked me behind my ear and it did nothing, so it comes down to the brain “jiggling”[/quote]

That punch wasn’t to the jaw. It hit Lawler in the face and skimmed his jaw. Besides you’re just reinforcing my point if you’re saying that a weak girl punch can a knock a person out. Comparing the Rampage/Liddell, Randy/Sylvia punches to Diaz’s punch against Lawler is just plain stupid. Watch the knockout again buddy. THe only weirder knockout punch is Liddel’s against Randleman.[/quote]
what about Travis Lutter vs Marvin Eastman.weird ko

 
Comment by MyQuit
2007-11-11 19:50:02

Who cares where the punch landed when it put Diaz on his ass? I’m glad to see Diaz lose, he’s proven time and time again that he is unprofessional and immature. [quote comment="207712"][quote post="3858"]Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]

I hope they put on a rematch, so Diaz can show you how much he “blows”?,,Diaz is a top fighter pound4pound in mma..
Sure your right, Diaz was getting worked, but his cardio is great and KJ was gassing. If Diaz didn’t get cut’ that 2nd round would of been alot different then the 1st.
…nonetheless…Props to Noons, I knew he could strike but he showed excellent takedown defence.[/quote] Yeah, and if he didn’t get punched in the face repeatedly or take a knee to the face when shooting in the 2nd round would have been different too. This is like saying “oh, if he didn’t get knocked out, the fight would have ended differently.” NO SHIT. Walking out with fingers raised shows you just how much he BLOWS. Win or lose you should be respectful and he showed he is just a whiny bitch.

 
Comment by Dan Henderson
2007-11-11 19:52:08

Wow i thought i woudl save $40 and watch the ELITE programs free on cable. It was so sad. It just had a bad vibe…and then the cantrell nosedive. OMG what the heck was that. I know they want Kimbo to be a star in MMA and they have some money into him but come on. Are we stupid and cant see a dive. The ref could have done better. A Marine. I would be embarassed. I have to find some of this guys matches. He cant have won 10 matches. No way. Thanks Vern

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-11 19:52:38

[quote post="3858"]That punch wasn’t to the jaw. It hit Lawler in the face and skimmed his jaw. Besides you’re just reinforcing my point if you’re saying that a weak girl punch can a knock a person out. Comparing the Rampage/Liddell, Randy/Sylvia punches to Diaz’s punch against Lawler is just plain stupid. Watch the knockout again buddy. THe only weirder knockout punch is Liddel’s against Randleman.
what about Travis Lutter vs Marvin Eastman.weird ko [/quote]

or AA .vs. Justin Eilers.

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-11-11 20:13:53

i was upset at the stoppage, but i’m a little biased because i’m a big diaz fan…sure kj was hitting diaz with some nice shots, but isn’t that the way the gomi fight was going too at the beginning? i think diaz was right there in that fight, i don’t think he was really in danger of getting knocked out, its too bad the doctor that stopped it was such a tool, that fight was aobut to be a war, i’m begging for a rematch…

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-11-11 20:17:06

as far as the kimbo fight goes, i don’t think cantrell wanted to be in that fight at all, kimbo didn’t even land any really solid shots, but cantrell knew right away kimbo had too much power for him and i think he wanted out of there…..jake shields looked pretty good too, i thought that pyle guy put up a really nice effort, its too bad that fight didn’t go a little longer, maybe he could have done something…

 
Comment by MyQuit
2007-11-11 20:27:44

…..THEN the 2nd round would have been different too. Oops.

 
Comment by Vera is Overated
2007-11-11 20:31:35

[quote comment="207733"][quote comment="207708"]im confuse about underated nick diaz, is he good or not that good? i dont know,sometimes he beats big time fighters & sometimes he lost against some unkown fighters. whatever..[/quote]

He’s not that good. He was dropped from the UFC because he lost 3 straight fights. He beat Gomi in a headscratcher (Gomi could barely lift his arms after 3 minutes???), and suddenly he became a great fighter in the eyes of the internet fandom. He’s decent, but not great. Just like Serra.[/quote]

Get your facts right bud….Diaz did lose 3 in a row, but then won 2 in a row after…all at Welterweight which he is too light to compete in but at the time the UFC had no Lightweight division..and his loses have been to mostly top Welterweight competition, notably Sean Sherk and Diego Sanchez….before he was cut he won 2 in a row in the UFC, he has beaten Robbie Lawler, Josh Neer, and Drew Ficket, and Gomi….all good fighters….so yes he is a good fighter…not the best lightweight out there…but one of them, so quit hating on the guy

 
Comment by jsoph
2007-11-11 20:35:46

[quote comment="208063"]as far as the kimbo fight goes, i don’t think cantrell wanted to be in that fight at all, kimbo didn’t even land any really solid shots, but cantrell knew right away kimbo had too much power for him and i think he wanted out of there…..jake shields looked pretty good too, i thought that pyle guy put up a really nice effort, its too bad that fight didn’t go a little longer, maybe he could have done something…[/quote]

Thanks for being one of the few people on this site that makes sense!

 
Comment by Vera is Overated
2007-11-11 20:36:18

[quote comment="208059"]i was upset at the stoppage, but i’m a little biased because i’m a big diaz fan…sure kj was hitting diaz with some nice shots, but isn’t that the way the gomi fight was going too at the beginning? i think diaz was right there in that fight, i don’t think he was really in danger of getting knocked out, its too bad the doctor that stopped it was such a tool, that fight was aobut to be a war, i’m begging for a rematch…[/quote]

I agree, Diaz was losing the stand up war but could have easily continued to fight, hes gritty like that..once that fight went to the ground though Noons would be done with…I say rematch and my money is on Diaz

 
Comment by c-war
2007-11-11 20:57:31

I didn’t see the fight personally. From what I gather, it sounds like Cantrell better have some broken bones, because I absolutely hate to see a fighter tap, while no sbumission is being attempted.( Especially in the first minute of the first round!) Why even come to fight if you’re not willing to actually do it?

 
Comment by c-war
2007-11-11 21:03:16

FIX: Hell, the Kimbo fight probably was fixed so Elite XC can make more money off of him. After all Elite XC is in debt (paying Shamrock and Baroni). This wouldnt surprise me one bit if they paid Cantrell to take the fall. And if it isn’t true, let’s see them scrap Cantrell’s contract then, because that is just ridiculous to have someone give up like that so easily in a fight.

 
Comment by Thorazine
2007-11-11 21:12:50

Didn’t anyone notice how sluggish and almost unemotional Diaz looked?…. he really looked bad from the get go, maybe he cut wrong, or over trained or something, but he didn’t look right.

Also that cut was in the worst place possible below the eye brow just above the eye lid, fights in boxing almost always get stopped at that point, a fighter can lose a sight or eye with another shot in that spot… very dangerous..

 
Comment by Yoububg
2007-11-11 21:15:52

[quote comment="207915"][quote comment="207709"]FIX!!!!

WORK!!!!

Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix!

100% guarantee!

Bo didn’t even get touched. The ONLY punch that landed was to his body, and NO WAY was he KO’d.

He tapped before he even hit the mat…

FIX!!!!

Oh, and Nick Diaz BLOWS! He got worked, 2 cutes on both eyes….he was done.[/quote]
Do you have a masters degree in English?[/quote]

HAHA I got it……….took me a minute

 
Comment by luke
2007-11-11 21:49:14

Unless Bo broke a rib with that one body shot, he got paid to fall….

 
Comment by Marco
2007-11-11 22:27:00

I believe there is already a fighter with the nickname “The Punk,” but Diaz sure earned the nickname lastnight, and thank goodness that so far we have been spared his retarded brother’s rant on what happened. County jail homeys like these 2 are such predictable whiners… And please get rid of Goldberg, replace him with Trigg, Ross pointon, Dr. Phil, ANYBODY! But all-in-all it watchable, but not PPV caliber, like I fear will be true of this Saturday

 
Comment by sooper822
2007-11-11 23:29:41

typical whiny diaz. the guys looks like he just got worked over by freddy krueger’s claw and still maintains he wasn’t beat. let the dumbass keep fighting next time until his eye falls out.

 
Comment by dia Mette
2007-11-11 23:29:50

[quote comment="208100"]Didn’t anyone notice how sluggish and almost unemotional Diaz looked?…. he really looked bad from the get go, maybe he cut wrong, or over trained or something, but he didn’t look right.

Also that cut was in the worst place possible below the eye brow just above the eye lid, fights in boxing almost always get stopped at that point, a fighter can lose a sight or eye with another shot in that spot… very dangerous..[/quote]

I agree not worth risking your eyesight. I feel bad for Diaz hoped he would be the first elite champion at 160. Im sure elite xc management wanted that to so they could have lawler diaz II. He was trying way to hard for the takedown that knee definitely hurt him If your ganna go for the takedown at least set it up. Diaz did not lose this fight hes never been submitted or stopped. they should do an immediate rematch. Diaz will be back

 
Comment by dia Mette
2007-11-11 23:30:22

sureal thanks for the post

 
Comment by Gord
2007-11-12 00:16:04

[quote post="3858"]damn jake shields is a badass.
mike pyle is not joke and that was just domination.
i think jake shields is top 5 welterweights in the world
1. gsp
2. matt hughes
3. jon fitch
4. matt serra
5. jake shields [/quote]
He is good ,but what about Kos? Kos is definitly in the top 5 WWs. I gained alot of respect for him after he was humbled by GSP.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-11-12 00:28:09

[quote post="3858"]FIX: Hell, the Kimbo fight probably was fixed so Elite XC can make more money off of him. After all Elite XC is in debt (paying Shamrock and Baroni). This wouldnt surprise me one bit if they paid Cantrell to take the fall. And if it isn’t true, let’s see them scrap Cantrell’s contract then, because that is just ridiculous to have someone give up like that so easily in a fight. [/quote]
First let me say that I thought Kimbo wouldn’t stand a chance in MMA. He’s been working with Bas and Bas was impressed with him. I doubt the fight was fixed, Kimbo hits HARD. If that punch to the temple wasn’t enough, the haymaker he through when he was down was enough to finish just about anyone. I’m not saying that Kimbo is going to look so good against a well rounded MMA fighter,but he is good enough to beat a bum who lost 1/2 his fights.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-11-12 00:40:17

[quote post="3858"]i was upset at the stoppage, but i’m a little biased because i’m a big diaz fan…sure kj was hitting diaz with some nice shots, but isn’t that the way the gomi fight was going too at the beginning? i think diaz was right there in that fight, i don’t think he was really in danger of getting knocked out, its too bad the doctor that stopped it was such a tool, that fight was aobut to be a war, i’m begging for a rematch…
I agree, Diaz was losing the stand up war but could have easily continued to fight, hes gritty like that..once that fight went to the ground though Noons would be done with…I say rematch and my money is on Diaz [/quote]
Diaz is more than gritty, he doesn’t know the meaning of quit. It’s to bad the fight was stopped, because I think Diaz would has won. Nick could have 6 cuts on each eye an he would still want to fight.

 
Comment by Thorazine
2007-11-12 00:42:10

[quote comment="208206"][quote post="3858"]FIX: Hell, the Kimbo fight probably was fixed so Elite XC can make more money off of him. After all Elite XC is in debt (paying Shamrock and Baroni). This wouldnt surprise me one bit if they paid Cantrell to take the fall. And if it isn’t true, let’s see them scrap Cantrell’s contract then, because that is just ridiculous to have someone give up like that so easily in a fight. [/quote]
First let me say that I thought Kimbo wouldn’t stand a chance in MMA. He’s been working with Bas and Bas was impressed with him. I doubt the fight was fixed, Kimbo hits HARD. If that punch to the temple wasn’t enough, the haymaker he through when he was down was enough to finish just about anyone. I’m not saying that Kimbo is going to look so good against a well rounded MMA fighter,but he is good enough to beat a bum who lost 1/2 his fights.[/quote]

 
Comment by Thorazine
2007-11-12 00:50:14

[quote comment="208218"][quote comment="208206"][quote post="3858"]FIX: Hell, the Kimbo fight probably was fixed so Elite XC can make more money off of him. After all Elite XC is in debt (paying Shamrock and Baroni). This wouldnt surprise me one bit if they paid Cantrell to take the fall. And if it isn’t true, let’s see them scrap Cantrell’s contract then, because that is just ridiculous to have someone give up like that so easily in a fight. [/quote]
First let me say that I thought Kimbo wouldn’t stand a chance in MMA. He’s been working with Bas and Bas was impressed with him. I doubt the fight was fixed, Kimbo hits HARD. If that punch to the temple wasn’t enough, the haymaker he through when he was down was enough to finish just about anyone. I’m not saying that Kimbo is going to look so good against a well rounded MMA fighter,but he is good enough to beat a bum who lost 1/2 his fights.[/quote][/quote]

I respectfully disagree, Kimbo looks like he can really take a shot, has great headmovement in his standup game and is a excellent boxer that will knock guys out and he’s strong as a mack truck… if he’s working with boss he’ll certainly learn how to use those knees.

Kimbo needs some legitmate challenges, 6-10 fights or so from now and he’ll be serious handful for any MMA fighter.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-11-12 00:52:55

[quote post="3858"]Even though BJ PENN is a Lightweight again, here’s my list:
1. Matt Serra
2. BJ PENN
3. GSP
4. Matt Hughes
5. Jake Shields
*The only reason I put Matt Serra ahead of BJ PENN is because he’s the champ. No matter what anyone says, as long as a person has the belt, they are the NUMBER 1. [/quote]
And the only reason you put BJ ahead of GSP is WHY? Is it because he LOST to GSP and never dominated the top WWs like GSP did.

 
Comment by Gord
2007-11-12 01:02:07

Penn is 1-2 at WW . Since when does that get ranked #2. Penn is a great LW, but he CAN”T hang with the POWER of the likes of GSP (Hughes ,KOS) ,who power out of his subs. Without the eye poke GSP would have beat him bad.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-11-12 01:02:27

[quote post="3858"]Kimbo needs some legitmate challenges, 6-10 fights or so from now and he’ll be serious handful for any MMA fighter.[/quote]

Screw easing him in. Kimbo is on the wring side of 30 and soon he’ll be too old to compete. I say get him in the UFC now while he still has some entertaining fights left in him. Win or lose, I think Kimbo fights will be fun.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-11-12 01:13:26

Diaz gets worked alot in the standup game. He is a Gracie fighter that like to box. His boxing is unconventional, light jabs that accumulate points and do damage in the long run. He usually has most guys eyes swollen shut by the end of fights. He has gotten laid out on his ass alot by punches and has come back and won fights. Yesterdays, fight against Noons looked alot like the Gomi fight.

3 of his last loses are to all game fighters,3 of those the Diego fight most likely could have gone either way. Even the Sherk vs. Diaz fight could have gone either way. Diaz countered just about every takedown, just as many punches, and controlled sherk a good portion of the fight. If Sherk was not Dana’s do boy you think the outcome may have been a little different. You even see Dana going crazy for Sherk throughout the fight. The KAro fight is a split witch also could have gone either way. The first round could have went to either, the second was nicks and the 3rds was KAro…So really he has losses there but they could be much different on different nights.

YEah he has a crappy attitude,need to do some maturing but he is still a good fighter. Plenty of fighters have crap attitudes but they are still good. He has been in his mind robbed of a lot of close fights, I amsure that is were a good portion of the attitude comes from. They took his win agains Gomi because the Pot made him num to pain, lol-Karo, Diaz, and Sherk he was in all of those fights and lost them to decisions. Well thats enough of that

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-11-12 01:15:37

[quote comment="208236"][quote post="3858"]Kimbo needs some legitmate challenges, 6-10 fights or so from now and he’ll be serious handful for any MMA fighter.[/quote]

Screw easing him in. Kimbo is on the wring side of 30 and soon he’ll be too old to compete. I say get him in the UFC now while he still has some entertaining fights left in him. Win or lose, I think Kimbo fights will be fun.[/quote]

They need to give him Antonio “LERCH” Silva from last night. He could make hw, he was fighting at 265 last night and still looked like he could loose another 10….He would getowned by LERCH>

 
Comment by COR
2007-11-12 02:02:47

wow, i dont think ive ever seen diaz get destroyed like that. kj looked really ackward bending over to the side, but his striking was really effective and his takedown defense was ridiculious. it was a good stoppage, both eyes, c’mon.

i dont know what to think about the kimbo fight. i dont know if bo took a dive for elitexc, for himself, or because he was in serious pain, but it definatly didnt look legit.

 
Comment by nate diaz
2007-11-12 05:00:50

i was a bit disappointed by the action

after shamrock baroni being such a good PPV i expected more from this card

cant blame kimbo that they didnt find him a tougher guy and i look forward to seeing him fighting someone better

nicks fight was also weak
its his own fault for getting cut so badly
and it looked borderline for ref/doctor stoppage as with cuts over both eyes his vision was probably affected

hopefully the next card will be better

 
Comment by Googan
2007-11-12 06:42:09

The Diaz stoppage was definitely called for. His eyes were getting covered by blood and it would have been a worse beating in the 2nd round because of it. But I don’t like how they rule cut stoppages as TKOs.

KJ did a good job. I’m a Diaz fan so it was very disappointing for me, but hopefully he’ll come back in better shape.

And again, FIRE Goldberg!!!! He’s just terrible.

 
Comment by Stagger-Lee
2007-11-12 07:31:59

[quote post="3858"] I’m glad to see Diaz lose, he’s proven time and time again that he is unprofessional and immature.[/quote]
[quote post="3858"] Walking out with fingers raised shows you just how much he BLOWS. Win or lose you should be respectful and he showed he is just a whiny bitch.[/quote]

You say Diaz is “immature”, yet YOU call him a “whiny bitch”, and say “he BLOWS” and he “should be respectful”.

How respectful are you to Diaz?

 
Comment by Jesse Canadian MMA
2007-11-12 10:10:30

Watched the main fights last night.
The diaz fight was a good fight.
I think regardless of the cuts Kj noons was winning the round anyway.
Diaz did land some jabs but Kj Won the fight fair and aquare.
Also Jake shields was impressive and the kimbo slice fight was junk, I’ve seen Bo cantrell lose enough as it is/king of the cage, not an exciting fight.

 
Comment by MyQuit
2007-11-12 10:15:29

[quote comment="208416"][quote post="3858"] I’m glad to see Diaz lose, he’s proven time and time again that he is unprofessional and immature.[/quote]
[quote post="3858"] Walking out with fingers raised shows you just how much he BLOWS. Win or lose you should be respectful and he showed he is just a whiny bitch.[/quote]

You say Diaz is “immature”, yet YOU call him a “whiny bitch”, and say “he BLOWS” and he “should be respectful”.

How respectful are you to Diaz?[/quote]

Looks like Diaz has an admirer…In MMA there is no room for his type of behaviour. Constantly making excuses for losses, running his mouth before fights, showboating during fights, ect. Diaz is NOT one of the best pound for pound fighters in MMA. Sure, he is a good fighter, but when someone constantly has the attitude of a “whiny bitch”, I just have to call it as i see it. MMA is such a fluke sport that ANYONE can lose at ANY TIME. If you lose you should be respectful, and if you win you should do the same, even if you don’t agree with the decision. Excuse me but i guess i should have said “His sense of sportsmanship BLOWS, or his attitude BLOWS” that way i would’nt offend you. WHY SHOULD I RESPECT SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS NO RESPECT FOR HIS OPPONENTS, HIS SPORT, OR THE PAYING CUSTOMERS??????

 
Comment by Hobo
2007-11-12 10:31:56

[quote comment="207858"][quote post="3858"]sureal
Nov 11th, 2007 at 8:29 am Quote this comment
I’m a fan of Diaz, but he needs to temper his passion with a little professionalism.
That knee to Diaz’s head during an attempted takedown looked like it really smarted
See for yourself—>
http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/11/nick-diaz-vs-kj-noons-elitexc-renegade.html [/quote]

He thanks for the post!!!

Man Diaz got worked. I think Diaz is a monster on the ground – but that stand up “pepper” crap just isn’t going to get it done anymore. The fight may have been stopped early (they were both in really bad spots), but I didn’t see anything that would make me think round 2 would be any different. Even when Diaz got his take down Noons got right out and up with no problem. Bam![/quote]
I agree. Nick got out worked and didn’t look like he was motivated at all. No class in his exit either. If he were as good as his attitude, he might be able to win a championship. He talks to much. He needs concentrate more on his fighting.

 
Comment by Landowner
2007-11-12 10:33:26

Anyone notice that two of the last three TUF fights where ten times as bloody as that Diaz fight? I’m beginning to think UFC does not call fights on blood.
Bottom line is that they should not be thinking that Nate might not be able to defend himself. Wait till that happens and then stop the fight. EliteXC seems to pretty much blow.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-11-12 10:47:23

[quote post="3858"]Kimbo fight was an EliteXC Fix! 100% guarantee![/quote]

I don’t know, the guy he fought, Bo Cantrell, was 10-10, and is now 10-11. That tells you its time to quit. He genuinly looked terrified when he looked at Kimbo. He took the fight on only 2 weeks noticed also. He felt Kimbo’s power, and simply wanted no part of him.

[quote post="3858"]This must’ve been boring… 8 out of 10 ended in round 1, 5 of these 8 ended with rear naked choke… *Zzzzzzzznore*[/quote]

And you would have preferre what, 5 decisions, and 2 draws and 3 no contests?

[quote comment="207712]Props to Noons, I knew he could strike but he showed excellent takedown defence.[/quote]

I am VERY dissapointed in Nick Diaz. As most of you know, he is my favorite fighter. In his fights, he almost always gets cuts (he has actually been cut worse, and continued), but this fight he also looked like crap out there. Just to make it clear, the doctor stopped the fight inbetween rounds 1 and 2.

I would disagree with the statement above that I quoted, and say that I was not so impressed with KJ’s take down defense. What I was, was completely un-impressed by Nick’s takedown attempts. They were completely half assed and telegraphed. He got dominated. He couldn’t do anything to KJ on Saturday. I too, would love to see a rematch, I mean how many good fighters does EliteXC even have in that new weight class? Come to think of it, I am actually happy that the fight ended by cuts, because chances are that if that fight continued the way it did, Nicky was going to get KTFO. And that would have been the first time in his career that he got KO’d. He lost due to strikes (GnP) to Jeremy Jackson when he was 18 years old, but KJ would have KO’d him on thier feet and Nick would have been unconcious for the first time ever in a fight. Again, he is my favorite fighter and I am admitting this. Of course, if the fight would have hit the ground, Nick could have submitted him, but the fact the the one time he got Noons to the ground, KJ stood right back up pretty easily, I wouldnt see it working out this way, unfortunately. Diaz’s best chance at winning would have been to push the pace and make it to rounds 4 and 5 where KJ would be tiring and he wouldn’t be. Then he would have had an easier time taking him down, and also would have landed about 200 small punches by then and KJ would have been softened up for a potential KO. In my eyes, and most I would think, KJ is not even a great fighter. Charles CrazyHorse Bennet KO’d his ass out in the first ever EliteXC event.

Overall, I have been extremely dissapointed in Nick’s last two performances. He goes from beating Gomi to eeking out a decision against Mike Aina and then getting beat by KJ Noons??? Another thing that I thought was strange was that Nate Diaz was Nick’s main corner man giving him advice. I mean, sure Nate knows a lot, but what does Nate know that Nick doesn’t? Nate should always be in his corner, but not as his main corner man, I mean, Nick practically taught him everything he knows. Where was Cesar, I didn’t see him. I saw Gilbert Melendez in he and Jake’s corner.

 
Comment by Yohnstoppable
2007-11-12 11:11:27

[quote comment="208542"]Anyone notice that two of the last three TUF fights where ten times as bloody as that Diaz fight? I’m beginning to think UFC does not call fights on blood.[/quote]

They don’t call the fights on blood. They call the fights on blood going into a fighter’s eyes. It is very dangerous to have a cut bleeding into your eye to begin with. It’s even worse when you are having to defend yourself with that happening

As far as the fight goes, Noons just brought it. The cuts seem to get the most attention, but those body shots looked brutal. His takedown defense was pretty damn good as well. Looking forward to seeing this guy fight some more

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-11-12 11:17:52

[quote comment="207754"]damn jake shields is a badass.

mike pyle is not joke and that was just domination.
i think jake shields is top 5 welterweights in the world

1. gsp
2. matt hughes
3. jon fitch
4. matt serra
5. jake shields[/quote]

In my opinion, Jake has been in the Top 10 since before his fight with Verisimo. He beat him down severely in like a minute. I loved it when Jake choked out that cocky-ass Mike “Pyle of Gargage”. What a little crybaby. It would have been a title fight, but Pyle thought he wasn’t being promoted properly. HELLO, you are in the first ever WW title fight, what’s the F’n problem??? Jake used to be known as a solid fighter, but one that couldn’t finish fights. He’s now finished his last 5 fights. Jake is the real deal and I also think that he is rapidly approaching the Top 5 WW’s. At the moment, I agree with your rankings, except perhaps putting Serra on top for the time being, while he champ.

[quote comment="207823"]OK for all of you Kimbo Slice fans out there, i hope you know that fight was fixed. That was stupid. I never in my life would pay for any other PPV unless it is a UFC PPV. Nick Diaz thinks he can handle the UFC when he can’t beat somone in EliteXC ? HAHA. Think about it, there is some reason Kimbo isn’t in the UFC. He just wouldn’t make it.[/quote]

The main reason he’s not in the UFC is becaus that was his first ever pro MMA fight. Ever since like UFC 3, I don’t think someone made thier MMA debut in the UFC. Lesnar only had 1 pro fight before being signed by the UFC – not only for his talent, but also becaus he will sell PPV’s. Did you hear that crowd screaming for Kimbo? It seemed like the majority of the fans came out just to see him. If Kimbo wins the rest of his fights that he has signed with EliteXC, trust me, Dana will want to sign him. He will bring money to the UFC.

[quote post="3858"]I believe there is already a fighter with the nickname “The Punk,” but Diaz sure earned the nickname lastnight,[/quote]

Yes, Josh “The Punk” Thomson. He is an outstanding 155 lb fighter. He has actually fought in EliteXC before, during the co-event they had with Srikeforce. He has tremendous skills, and I think he would be a nice addition to the UFC LW roster.

[quote post="3858"]I agree not worth risking your eyesight. I feel bad for Diaz hoped he would be the first elite champion at 160. Im sure elite xc management wanted that to so they could have lawler diaz II.[/quote]

What? NO WAY. They only have 1 champion crowned so far, at MW. Why would they crown their 2nd champion just to have them fight each other. And also, and probably more importantly, Nick Diaz fights at 160 lbs. Robbie Lawler is the MW champion which is 185 lbs. That is a 25 lb difference. What exactly are you recomending???

[quote post="3858"]cant blame kimbo that they didnt find him a tougher guy and i look forward to seeing him fighting someone better[/quote]

Kimbo does not select his opponents. ALSO, Bo Cantrell was a late last minute replacement. He took the fight on 2 weeks notice. BUT, then again, Kimbo’s original opponent has a first round KO loss on his record from Bo Cantrell!

[quote post="3858"]But I don’t like how they rule cut stoppages as TKOs. [/quote]

Me neither. It should clearly state “Stoppage due to cuts”

 
Comment by nickdaizfan
2007-11-12 12:59:16

daiz lost the first round but got 2take downs nick daiz is a slow started alwas has been they shouldnt have stop the fight second round daiz was goin to cum back just like gomi

 
Comment by Landowner
2007-11-12 13:08:41

[quote comment="208568"]
They don’t call the fights on blood. They call the fights on blood going into a fighter’s eyes. It is very dangerous to have a cut bleeding into your eye to begin with. It’s even worse when you are having to defend yourself with that happening

As far as the fight goes, Noons just brought it. The cuts seem to get the most attention, but those body shots looked brutal. His takedown defense was pretty damn good as well. Looking forward to seeing this guy fight some more[/quote]

I’m not doubting you but I have seen some fights in the past that seemed like the doc just thought the fighter bleed too much and called it. I’ve see plenty of fights continue with more blood.
I have to give Noons credit. He was doing great against one hell of a fighter. I just feel as a fan of Nick’s he would have pulled it out at the end.

 
Comment by LBKtxUFCfan
2007-11-12 13:32:14

[quote comment="208077"][quote comment="208063"]as far as the kimbo fight goes, i don’t think cantrell wanted to be in that fight at all, kimbo didn’t even land any really solid shots, but cantrell knew right away kimbo had too much power for him and i think he wanted out of there…..jake shields looked pretty good too, i thought that pyle guy put up a really nice effort, its too bad that fight didn’t go a little longer, maybe he could have done something…[/quote]

Thanks for being one of the few people on this site that makes sense![/quote]

Tell me about it, I’m in agreement with the both of you… I seriously doubt there is anyone on this site that can personally atest to how hard Kimbo actually hit Bo. On top of that he placed that shot right in the ribs, and I wouldnt doubt Bo ended up with a few of them broken. Its really funny how “fix” shows up from the get go when the fight only went 18 seconds. Would it be fixed if Kimbo jumped on his back and chocked him out in 10 seconds??? Props to Kimbo on a vicous body shot that EARNED him the win!

 
Comment by SaVaGe
2007-11-12 13:48:27

I thought it was an early stoppage. Yes, the cuts were in a bad place (worst really), but there was no real evidence that it was impairing his vision. It is usually obvious when a fighter cannot see due to blood. If he had started eating some bombs in the 2nd round, sure, stop the fight.

IMO, Diaz showed 0 class storming out of the arena, but I can see why he would do so being upset at the stoppage. The fans would rather hear him give an interview in the cage afterward, but in the longrun his quick exit might have been the best option for his career, considering what kind of rant he is capable of.

 
Comment by Ben Dover
2007-11-12 14:56:26

can anybody put a link up of the kimbo fight? I would love to see it and not a youtube back yard brawl fight…kinda sounded like a terrible fight with maybe a phantom punch but would still like to watch it. thx in advance!

 
 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-11-12 15:40:46

[quote comment="208229"][quote post="3858"]Even though BJ PENN is a Lightweight again, here’s my list:
1. Matt Serra
2. BJ PENN
3. GSP
4. Matt Hughes
5. Jake Shields
*The only reason I put Matt Serra ahead of BJ PENN is because he’s the champ. No matter what anyone says, as long as a person has the belt, they are the NUMBER 1. [/quote]
And the only reason you put BJ ahead of GSP is WHY? Is it because he LOST to GSP and never dominated the top WWs like GSP did.[/quote]

Why does everyone bring up the excuse of the eyepoke. BJ PENN dominated that fight entirely up to the third round. GSP than dominated with takedowns in the third round and thats why BJ lost. Also BJ PENN only had three fights at welterweight, and against two of the best welterweights in the world at the time. Don’t forget that be did make Matt Hughes TAPOUT to win the BELT. If you want to bring up the eye poke, than BJ PENN would have beat Matt Hughes the second time if it weren’t for his rib dislocation. You could also say that if it weren’t for two of the “LOW BLOWS”, GSP would have never beat Matt Hughes.

 
Comment by Royer
2007-11-12 18:27:48

[quote comment="207823"]OK for all of you Kimbo Slice fans out there, i hope you know that fight was fixed. That was stupid. I never in my life would pay for any other PPV unless it is a UFC PPV. Nick Diaz thinks he can handle the UFC when he can’t beat somone in EliteXC ? HAHA. Think about it, there is some reason Kimbo isn’t in the UFC. He just wouldn’t make it.[/quote]

please look at the fight again b/c bo had a cut above one of his eyes.. mayyn I cant believe out of all these posts noone has mentioned that…OOOHH and don’t respond to this post without seeing the fight again cause I just saw it and there is a fucken cut….This is in no way meant to be an argumentive post, I am simply stating the facts….Kimbo is a beast you cant say otherwise until someone proves him unworthy…

 
Comment by Royer
2007-11-12 18:30:02

OOOhh and one more thing this was not his first mma fight either… The first one he had ended in a guillatine choke also very early in the fight in favor of KIMBO SLICE…

 
Comment by nathan
2007-11-12 22:45:56

HA HA HA diaz sucks.

 
Comment by frankthetank
2007-11-13 03:33:06

[quote post="3858"]OK for all of you Kimbo Slice fans out there, i hope you know that fight was fixed. That was stupid. I never in my life would pay for any other PPV unless it is a UFC PPV. Nick Diaz thinks he can handle the UFC when he can’t beat somone in EliteXC ? HAHA. Think about it, there is some reason Kimbo isn’t in the UFC. He just wouldn’t make it.
please look at the fight again b/c bo had a cut above one of his eyes.. mayyn I cant believe out of all these posts noone has mentioned that…OOOHH and don’t respond to this post without seeing the fight again cause I just saw it and there is a fucken cut….This is in no way meant to be an argumentive post, I am simply stating the facts….Kimbo is a beast you cant say otherwise until someone proves him unworthy… [/quote]
And i dont believe anyone was saying he wasnt. The facts are the cut or no cut BO CANTrell fell to the ground. Still able to fight and tapped for no reason other then hes a worthless fighter. Even the announcers say that his nerves got the best of him. Or something along those lines. I think the big issue was BO CANTrell.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-11-13 07:03:27

[quote comment="208674"][quote comment="208568"]
They don’t call the fights on blood. They call the fights on blood going into a fighter’s eyes. It is very dangerous to have a cut bleeding into your eye to begin with. It’s even worse when you are having to defend yourself with that happening

As far as the fight goes, Noons just brought it. The cuts seem to get the most attention, but those body shots looked brutal. His takedown defense was pretty damn good as well. Looking forward to seeing this guy fight some more[/quote]

I’m not doubting you but I have seen some fights in the past that seemed like the doc just thought the fighter bleed too much and called it. I’ve see plenty of fights continue with more blood.
I have to give Noons credit. He was doing great against one hell of a fighter. I just feel as a fan of Nick’s he would have pulled it out at the end.[/quote]

Did anyone notice when they called the fight Diaz’s corner had already stopped the bleeding over the eye, they stopped almost immediatly. The cut over the nose is what was still slightly bleeding when they called it. I still think it was a little premature the way they stoped the fight but what can you do about it…

 
Comment by sycboi
2007-11-13 18:41:07

No one knows who you are and cares who you are. If you got your as s kicked by a girl that’s your problem.
Now back to the Kimbo fight, if you can call it one. How much did they pay Bo to just fall like that?[/quote]
oh but people care who you are? Really? Stroke keys not yourself.

 
Comment by sycboi
2007-11-13 18:45:29

THe only weirder knockout punch is Liddel’s against Randleman.[/quote] I would say the Liddel/tiger white punch was weird as well.

 
Comment by Jared Mertens
2007-11-14 11:13:39

I agree buday

 
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