Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!!
I don’t see Joe really giving BJ any problems. Joe likes to go for a lot of submissions but that’s BJ’s bread and butter. I think it will be a good fight. I see Joe hanging tough but getting dominated and losing a unanimous decision.
Werdun already has a win over Gonzaga, but that was quite a while ago. It’d be like saying Wanderlei is going to beat Rampage hands down if they fought again. My money’s gotta go on Gonzaga.
“PhilQNY
Nov 6th, 2007 at 8:08 am Quote this comment
Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event? ”
Because Phil, every October show that they put on blows because all UFC fighters want to be in Vegas for the New Year after they fight. It’s all about the after party for these fighters and Dana cannot actually force them to fight in a city notorious for crime, projects, and crack.
Newark, New Jersey ? Any smart business man could have told Dana that this was a horrible idea ! Just because it is a new arena and he is probably making money out of his ass off of it doesn’t mean you hold a UFC event in Newark. Hopefully some junkie pops two in to White’s chrome dome !
Of all places on the east coast Manhattan (MSG), Philly (Wachovia center), Long Island (Nassau Colusium), Foxwoods in Conneticutt, or even in Atlantic City itself … Dana goes and chooses Newark, New Jersey ? The city is top ten in crime in the United States every year.
Nice Interim championship fight…just call it what it is…a glorified #1 contenders match if Sherk is somehow found innocent. I still don’t understand why they couldn’t just wait the 2 weeks to see the outcome of his appeal and make the call at that time instead of just making a mess with 2 belts in one division. It’s completely ridiculous…next they’re going to introduce the incontinental and united states champ belts like WWE. It’s just a huge marketing ploy to nake the fight seem bigger than it actually is…don’t get me wrong though…it’s a big fight but there’s no need to put a belt out for it unless they’re going to vacate the current belt…which they should if Sherk is found guilty.
[quote comment="204892"]Nice Interim championship fight…just call it what it is…a glorified #1 contenders match if Sherk is somehow found innocent. I still don’t understand why they couldn’t just wait the 2 weeks to see the outcome of his appeal and make the call at that time instead of just making a mess with 2 belts in one division. It’s completely ridiculous…next they’re going to introduce the incontinental and united states champ belts like WWE. It’s just a huge marketing ploy to nake the fight seem bigger than it actually is…don’t get me wrong though…it’s a big fight but there’s no need to put a belt out for it unless they’re going to vacate the current belt…which they should if Sherk is found guilty.[/quote]
I agree..but dana wants to suck the money out this as much as possible..a fight for a title is better than a non title fight. His using the csac 2 week hearing as an excuse that this is nothing to do with sherk..that this is all some big mis understanding. He could of set this up 3 months ago..but sherk would of took the blame for it being a vacant title..now he blames the csac..and wants to market and profit from a unification lw title holder.
I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.
Sherk should be completely out of the picture if he gets found guilty and I think Florian should definately get the next shot at whoever gets the belt. I actually think he is the one who deserves to fight Penn more than Stevenson, and I think as far as veiwing is concerned would make for a more exciting match. I like Stevenson he seems like a good guy and definately has skills, I just think that Florian deserves it a bit more.
[quote comment="204871"]Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!![/quote]
Dont be a fool penn is pound for pound the best fighter in the world, he will cream joe stevenson ( as much as i like him ) did you see him against matt hughes ! he played with him man , same with little evil and he will do the same to sherk !! BADA BING BABY !
[quote comment="204871"]Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!![/quote]
BULL penn will kick ass he creamed matt hughes he creamed little evil, and he will cream stevenson and the sherk, pound for pound the best fighter in the world . PENN FOR PREZ
DANA WHITE IS BI-POLAR, HE HAS A MENTAL, PERSONALITY DISORDER, I SHOULD KNOW i WORK IN PSYCHIATRY!
DANA IN POLITICAL TERMS FLIP_FLOPS ALL THE TIME NOW!!!!
I’ve never said no to randy COUTURE,
YEah right then give him or his mma agent what he’s asking
WE ALL F0-ingknow it isn’t more than dana’s poster boy chuck off the liddell wagon who in his last 2 loses earned at LEAST 1 million on the record plus probably over 1.5 in ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors, com on!!!
NOW DANA said if SHERK IS GUilty he will have his title belt stripped, now he flip flops and says it will not matter if he is found guilt or not, so he’s overiding the CSAC!! WOW?
Oh and the NSAC?? THE UFC HIRED the “most REspected member of THAT COMMISSION TO CONTROL HIM AND CERTAIN OTHER STUFF,
DANA WHITE IS AS JUICED AS SOME OF IT’s FIGHTERS!
i know this is a bit off topic here but it’s important!:
IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?!
meanwhile chuck DOESN’t CARE if he wins or loses he “ll get
500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn’t care oh and he’s crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can’t DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He’ll do it
if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP
[quote comment="204905"]I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.[/quote]
Yeah man..What is Werdum’s pic doing on this card..if this was adcc or pan americano..it would make sense..but not a ufc co main event..Dana should be charged with reckless fight match ups, indangerment of feeding viewers weaker cards and ridiculous main event purposely.. 2counts of affiliation with chemical brothers ( sherk, lesnar ) and in violation of being a Ceo Prez of the ufc..with no due proccess..no trial..I suggest we move towards reaching a verdict.
GUILTY as charged.. of above offenses..he is to be stripped of title ufc president to release his stranglehold of the ufc..and can be affiliated to mma in Iraq and Iran in hostlie anti american areas.
I love BJ Penn and I think it’s great that he’s staying lightweight and fighting for the title.Joe Daddy is a good fighter too and it should be a good one but I’m all Penn here he’s one of the most talented fighters out there and should have gold around his waist.I dont condemn Penn for what he said regarding Sherk’s steroid issues I respect him for it and I think he’s right,Sherk cheated,he disrespected the sport and the rest of the fighters and that’s how Penn feels,it’s bullshit and I hope he does get the chance to fight BJ all natural and gets choked out.Pound for Pound Penn is the best in the world,he has no real weakness that holds him back,he’s great and I cant wait to see it
As long as it’s on spike, I can’t complain..besides Werdum is among the top 12 HW. He should consider dropping to LHW though, looked smaller against Arlovski
[quote post="3794"]I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.[/quote]
STRONGLY AGREE…especially the part with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.
Interim Championship is stupid. Just wait 2 weeks, strip Sherk and then have a vacant LW Championship fight.
Moves like this show how much the UFC needs some policy standards regarding abuse. This is the precedent?
IMO, anyone fails both tests, automatically stripped. You can appeal, but the belt waits for no one. Fail one of two tests, belt waits for appeal, no continuance.
The UFC also needs some kind of ranking system for determining contenders. Whatever Silva and Dana think is not cutting it.
The win-loss records on UFC.com are suspect, at best. How is Gonzaga 8-1 if he already lost to Werdum once and just lost to Randy Couture in his last fight? That is two losses right there.
[quote comment="205053"]Seems like a weak card to me. I would love to watch Penn though. Is anybody gonna pay for this?[/quote]
A weak card? There are only two fights on it so far. How about we wait to see what the other six fights turn out to be.
[quote comment="205015"]Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing, 5 rounder kind of rough for penn, and a three rounder very rough for stevenson.
[quote comment="204877"]Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?[/quote]
Why even have the UFC in england… If its gonna be hundereds of miles away from meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
[quote comment="205015"]Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.[/quote]
It sure should be, I am 99.999999999% sure that it will be.
[quote comment="205064"][quote comment="205053"]Seems like a weak card to me. I would love to watch Penn though. Is anybody gonna pay for this?[/quote]
A weak card? There are only two fights on it so far. How about we wait to see what the other six fights turn out to be.[/quote]
But this looks like it is the ‘official’ promo poster. That would mean that Penn/Stevenson is the main event, and Gonzaga/Werdum is the ‘featured bout’ which will be right before the main event.
ima pick GG to win.also pick bj to win if its in the early rounds and joe daddy in the later rounds.dont know how bj cardio is now but he use to gas out.dropping his hands and not stuffing take downs.should be an exciting fight though
outside of bj vs joe daddy this fight card looks like shit. the ufc wouldn’t get a fuckin wooden dime out of me for this card! i’d like to see joe daddy beat bj, but do you think i’m going to pay for a card to one exciting light weight fight?
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Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!!
Both fights should be great..
I Hope the rest of the card turns out good.
Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?
This should be a good one between Gonzaga and Werdum. Gonzaga should get him.
I don’t see Joe really giving BJ any problems. Joe likes to go for a lot of submissions but that’s BJ’s bread and butter. I think it will be a good fight. I see Joe hanging tough but getting dominated and losing a unanimous decision.
Werdun already has a win over Gonzaga, but that was quite a while ago. It’d be like saying Wanderlei is going to beat Rampage hands down if they fought again. My money’s gotta go on Gonzaga.
“PhilQNY
Nov 6th, 2007 at 8:08 am Quote this comment
Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event? ”
Because Phil, every October show that they put on blows because all UFC fighters want to be in Vegas for the New Year after they fight. It’s all about the after party for these fighters and Dana cannot actually force them to fight in a city notorious for crime, projects, and crack.
Newark, New Jersey ? Any smart business man could have told Dana that this was a horrible idea ! Just because it is a new arena and he is probably making money out of his ass off of it doesn’t mean you hold a UFC event in Newark. Hopefully some junkie pops two in to White’s chrome dome !
Of all places on the east coast Manhattan (MSG), Philly (Wachovia center), Long Island (Nassau Colusium), Foxwoods in Conneticutt, or even in Atlantic City itself … Dana goes and chooses Newark, New Jersey ? The city is top ten in crime in the United States every year.
Nice Interim championship fight…just call it what it is…a glorified #1 contenders match if Sherk is somehow found innocent. I still don’t understand why they couldn’t just wait the 2 weeks to see the outcome of his appeal and make the call at that time instead of just making a mess with 2 belts in one division. It’s completely ridiculous…next they’re going to introduce the incontinental and united states champ belts like WWE. It’s just a huge marketing ploy to nake the fight seem bigger than it actually is…don’t get me wrong though…it’s a big fight but there’s no need to put a belt out for it unless they’re going to vacate the current belt…which they should if Sherk is found guilty.
UFC 82 Prediction – Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson and Houston Alexander vs. Wandy
[quote comment="204892"]Nice Interim championship fight…just call it what it is…a glorified #1 contenders match if Sherk is somehow found innocent. I still don’t understand why they couldn’t just wait the 2 weeks to see the outcome of his appeal and make the call at that time instead of just making a mess with 2 belts in one division. It’s completely ridiculous…next they’re going to introduce the incontinental and united states champ belts like WWE. It’s just a huge marketing ploy to nake the fight seem bigger than it actually is…don’t get me wrong though…it’s a big fight but there’s no need to put a belt out for it unless they’re going to vacate the current belt…which they should if Sherk is found guilty.[/quote]
I agree..but dana wants to suck the money out this as much as possible..a fight for a title is better than a non title fight. His using the csac 2 week hearing as an excuse that this is nothing to do with sherk..that this is all some big mis understanding. He could of set this up 3 months ago..but sherk would of took the blame for it being a vacant title..now he blames the csac..and wants to market and profit from a unification lw title holder.
I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.
Sherk should be completely out of the picture if he gets found guilty and I think Florian should definately get the next shot at whoever gets the belt. I actually think he is the one who deserves to fight Penn more than Stevenson, and I think as far as veiwing is concerned would make for a more exciting match. I like Stevenson he seems like a good guy and definately has skills, I just think that Florian deserves it a bit more.
[quote comment="204871"]Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!![/quote]
Dont be a fool penn is pound for pound the best fighter in the world, he will cream joe stevenson ( as much as i like him ) did you see him against matt hughes ! he played with him man , same with little evil and he will do the same to sherk !! BADA BING BABY !
[quote comment="204871"]Im going to cheer for Joe but I want Penn to win so he can get his ass kicked by Sherk once and for all. BJ, you talk to much shit, and I think your little stunt about not fighting sherk if his appeal is over-ruled is a way out of the fight for you…pu$$…. LOVE YOU MANIA!![/quote]
BULL penn will kick ass he creamed matt hughes he creamed little evil, and he will cream stevenson and the sherk, pound for pound the best fighter in the world . PENN FOR PREZ
DANA WHITE IS BI-POLAR, HE HAS A MENTAL, PERSONALITY DISORDER, I SHOULD KNOW i WORK IN PSYCHIATRY!
DANA IN POLITICAL TERMS FLIP_FLOPS ALL THE TIME NOW!!!!
I’ve never said no to randy COUTURE,
YEah right then give him or his mma agent what he’s asking
WE ALL F0-ingknow it isn’t more than dana’s poster boy chuck off the liddell wagon who in his last 2 loses earned at LEAST 1 million on the record plus probably over 1.5 in ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors, com on!!!
NOW DANA said if SHERK IS GUilty he will have his title belt stripped, now he flip flops and says it will not matter if he is found guilt or not, so he’s overiding the CSAC!! WOW?
Oh and the NSAC?? THE UFC HIRED the “most REspected member of THAT COMMISSION TO CONTROL HIM AND CERTAIN OTHER STUFF,
DANA WHITE IS AS JUICED AS SOME OF IT’s FIGHTERS!
i know this is a bit off topic here but it’s important!:
IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?!
meanwhile chuck DOESN’t CARE if he wins or loses he “ll get
500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn’t care oh and he’s crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can’t DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He’ll do it
if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP
[quote comment="204905"]I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.[/quote]
Yeah man..What is Werdum’s pic doing on this card..if this was adcc or pan americano..it would make sense..but not a ufc co main event..Dana should be charged with reckless fight match ups, indangerment of feeding viewers weaker cards and ridiculous main event purposely.. 2counts of affiliation with chemical brothers ( sherk, lesnar ) and in violation of being a Ceo Prez of the ufc..with no due proccess..no trial..I suggest we move towards reaching a verdict.
GUILTY as charged.. of above offenses..he is to be stripped of title ufc president to release his stranglehold of the ufc..and can be affiliated to mma in Iraq and Iran in hostlie anti american areas.
I love BJ Penn and I think it’s great that he’s staying lightweight and fighting for the title.Joe Daddy is a good fighter too and it should be a good one but I’m all Penn here he’s one of the most talented fighters out there and should have gold around his waist.I dont condemn Penn for what he said regarding Sherk’s steroid issues I respect him for it and I think he’s right,Sherk cheated,he disrespected the sport and the rest of the fighters and that’s how Penn feels,it’s bullshit and I hope he does get the chance to fight BJ all natural and gets choked out.Pound for Pound Penn is the best in the world,he has no real weakness that holds him back,he’s great and I cant wait to see it
[quote comment="204877"]Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?[/quote]
LOL..that’s a good question..
As long as it’s on spike, I can’t complain..besides Werdum is among the top 12 HW. He should consider dropping to LHW though, looked smaller against Arlovski
[quote comment="204877"]Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?[/quote]
For real. Im still gonna go to the NJ card though. Wish there was a title fight.
What about arlovski? dame.. is he doing a full season of jerry or what?
dpb .. ya think alexander will win .. me to .. your predictions sound exciting
[quote post="3794"]I don’t like Gonzaga/Werdum being a co-main event type match. I think that’s horrible. It shouldn’t even be on the poster. Werdum as done NOTHING in the UFC to warrant him having his face on a UFC PPV promo poster as a co-main event type match. Like I’ve been saying, with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.[/quote]
STRONGLY AGREE…especially the part with ALL of this talent the UFC has, we should never be seeing a week card.
Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.
both will be really good fights, can’t wait to see bj fight, and gonzaga in that matter, hope it’s on spike
Interim Championship is stupid. Just wait 2 weeks, strip Sherk and then have a vacant LW Championship fight.
Moves like this show how much the UFC needs some policy standards regarding abuse. This is the precedent?
IMO, anyone fails both tests, automatically stripped. You can appeal, but the belt waits for no one. Fail one of two tests, belt waits for appeal, no continuance.
The UFC also needs some kind of ranking system for determining contenders. Whatever Silva and Dana think is not cutting it.
Seems like a weak card to me. I would love to watch Penn though. Is anybody gonna pay for this?
The win-loss records on UFC.com are suspect, at best. How is Gonzaga 8-1 if he already lost to Werdum once and just lost to Randy Couture in his last fight? That is two losses right there.
[quote comment="205053"]Seems like a weak card to me. I would love to watch Penn though. Is anybody gonna pay for this?[/quote]
A weak card? There are only two fights on it so far. How about we wait to see what the other six fights turn out to be.
[quote comment="205015"]Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.[/quote]
ant title fight in the ufc is 5 rounds.
[quote comment="205015"]Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing, 5 rounder kind of rough for penn, and a three rounder very rough for stevenson.
[quote comment="204877"]Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?[/quote]
Why even have the UFC in england… If its gonna be hundereds of miles away from meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
[quote comment="204877"]Why does england get the title fights..and Ny/Nj gets bisping vs Rashad as a main event?[/quote]
p.s.. Sorry you get Bisbing.. that sucks, but at least you get to boo him (Which will SO happen) and see him get whooped into the 185 division.
On another note… it is a pretty decent card no title fight aside.
[quote comment="205015"]Does anyone know if this “interim” title fight will be five rounder?
If it is, I would think it benefits Stevenson. Stevenson has granite for a jaw, and Penn has always been dogged because of his conditioning.[/quote]
It sure should be, I am 99.999999999% sure that it will be.
[quote comment="205064"][quote comment="205053"]Seems like a weak card to me. I would love to watch Penn though. Is anybody gonna pay for this?[/quote]
A weak card? There are only two fights on it so far. How about we wait to see what the other six fights turn out to be.[/quote]
But this looks like it is the ‘official’ promo poster. That would mean that Penn/Stevenson is the main event, and Gonzaga/Werdum is the ‘featured bout’ which will be right before the main event.
ima pick GG to win.also pick bj to win if its in the early rounds and joe daddy in the later rounds.dont know how bj cardio is now but he use to gas out.dropping his hands and not stuffing take downs.should be an exciting fight though
outside of bj vs joe daddy this fight card looks like shit. the ufc wouldn’t get a fuckin wooden dime out of me for this card! i’d like to see joe daddy beat bj, but do you think i’m going to pay for a card to one exciting light weight fight?