Recent high profile free agent acquisition Brock Lesnar (1-0) will make his Octagon debut against former heavyweight champion Frank Mir (10-3) at UFC 81 on February 2 in Las Vegas, Nevada, according to UFC.com.
Lesnar — a decorated NCAA wrestling champion and former professional wrestler — has indicated since his arrival that he wants to fight top competition. In Mir, he’s up against an experienced Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighter with years of professional fight experience to his credit.
On the other hand this will be just the second pro MMA fight for Lesnar. His first and only win came against Min Su Kim at a K-1 Hero’s event earlier this year.
Here’s a snip mash from UFC President Dana White.
“It’s an interesting match up. Lesnar is a great wrestler, a good athlete, and this is definitely gonna be a big test for him…. This guy’s not trying to duck anybody. He knew once he got in the UFC that he was gonna fight tough guys.”
Recent credible reports indicate that Lesnar requested the bout. He must see an opportunity to kick start his UFC career against one of the organization’s more well-known names.
Since returning in 2006 from a devastating motorcycle accident that nearly killed Mir two years ago he has looked sluggish and out of shape in some bouts. However, that all changed his last time out when he looked to be back to his former sensational form that made him a star.
In fact, “The Baddest Man on the Planet” made quick work of Antoni Hardonk at UFC 74: “Respect” in August, submitting the Dutch fighter via kimura in less than 80 seconds.
If both fighters prepare well for this bout it should be an exciting showdown at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on SuperBowl Saturday.
Fingers crossed.
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i cant wait but i am still not sure if brock will pull it off
I think this is a bad fight for lesnar. He’ll probably take Mir down but that’s where mir wants to be.
im down with that. i think its a tall order for brock’s first fight. but then again he talked a lot of shit so lets see him back it up!
OOohh SHizzlle!
Nice Match up. Who is Andrei Arlovski going to fight then? thought it was Brock Lesnar.
Brock Lesnar is GOING TO KILL FRANK MIR!! All doubters will become followers after this fight.
This is a good first fight for Brock, i dont think he’s ready for Andrei yet. We’ll to get see how good lesnars submission defence is.
The drinking game word for that match will be….
“athleticism!”
[quote comment=”204681″]The drinking game word for that match will be….
“athleticism!”[/quote]
lol
OMG. This is a great oppurtunity for Mir. I really hope he pulls it off and makes Lesnar realize he shouldn’t be in the UFC.
So much for slowly introducing Brock. This isn’t Frank the Champion of ‘04 but he’s still a BBJ expert and has way more experience than Lesnar. This is good because we’ll all see where his 2 years of MMA training has brought him. It takes serious cojones to step in the octagon with a former champ in your second pro fight, but it isn’t much of a surprise from to all us original Brock fans. Watch all the doubters start to back peddle from their earlier comments that he wouldn’t make it.
man broc has so much power. this will be a walk in the park for him.
The great thing about this is I think we’re going to see Frank Mir back on the contender list with this one.
Mir wins this easy by submission if he doesn’t gas. That’s the problem with Frank — his cardio is horrendous. And Lesnar is as strong as a fucking ox and will no doubt push the pace early. Mir has to catch him with something before he gets overwhelmed and exhausted. Not a great fight in my book. Either Mir comes in shape and submits Lesnar quick or Lesnar uses his strength and power to pound out Mir.
Yup i totally agree EDEN. LET’S GO MIR! Iv’e been a fan ever since the arm breakage of Tim Sylvia !
Hopefully Mir wins, I want to see Mir/Silvia 2
Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE
Lesnar doesn’t even look human… he’s like a hairless polar bear or something… I would say that Mir wins by first round submission, because a wrestling background with 2 years of MMA training shouldn’t be enough to get past Mir’s submissions. Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia…
I’m split. Lesnar’s power vs Mir’s BJJ. It will be an interesting fight. Say Lesnar gets past Mir, who’s next? Brandon Vera?
bad first real fight for lesnar, pure wrestler vs excellent submissionist = bad night for wrestler.
[quote comment=”204698″]Lesnar doesn’t even look human… he’s like a hairless polar bear or something… I would say that Mir wins by first round submission, because a wrestling background with 2 years of MMA training shouldn’t be enough to get past Mir’s submissions. Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia…[/quote]
No, polar bears have lots of fat to cope with the arctic climate.
I am thrilled by this match-up. Not only are these guys in my top 3 active heavyweights, but their strengths play into each others hands.
Lesnar and Mir do not have the best stand up in the world, and both should be looking for the takedowns. If Lesnar can control Mir on the ground and do a lay and pray he might be fine, but if Lesnar messes up Mir will catch him. One this is for sure, Brock has way to big of a neck and shoulders to be locked in a triangle joke.
MIR STAY HEALTHY PLEASE.
No way brock can pull this of unless mir is in bad shape! Your talking about the guy who is a former ufc champion and a guy who has one mma fight against a nobody and is all hype!You do the math!
I just can’t see Brock winning this one.
Why would Frank take this fight? Besting someone with a 1-0 professional record could not do very much for his title contention.
Why would Brock take this fight? Unless something miraculous happened to Brock giving him an additional ten years of combat training in two years time, he is going to suffer. Who knows maybe for the right price Frank will take a dive?
WAR MIR!!!!
If this goes to the scorecards, nomatter how much Mir may be ahead, he’s fucked because there is no way the UFC is going to let Brock lose a decision.
Stomp his arrogant ass, GO MIR!
[quote comment=”204710″]I just can’t see Brock winning this one.
Why would Frank take this fight? Besting someone with a 1-0 professional record could not do very much for his title contention.
Why would Brock take this fight? Unless something miraculous happened to Brock giving him an additional ten years of combat training in two years time, he is going to suffer. Who knows maybe for the right price Frank will take a dive?[/quote]
Because Brock is supposed to be “The Next Big Thing” just like he was supposed to be in Pro Wrestling and when Mir SUBS him in the 1st rd. people will have there eye on him again.
This is good, it’s cool to see everybody is pretty even with this one, half think Brock, half think Mir, I myself think Mir, and will be rooting for him hardcore, down with Brock, he needs a humbling expiriance before i’ll be down for that guy. I really like Mir, it’s sad to see what happened to him, hopefully the Mir of old comes back, then it’s OVER!!
I love the polarized viewpoint this matchup creates. Half the people think Brock has a good chance and half the people hoping he gets his arm broken. Mir hasnt quite gotten to the level he once was at and if he does gas out early i think this one will be a big win for Lesnar. You gotta give the guy credit though, he requested a match with a proven fighter. Unless Mir somehow catches him with an submission i dont think he can hang with the strength of Brock in a long war on the ground. Great matchmaking here if you ask me, both fighters come in with alot to prove and if Mir wins than Lesnar gets some upper tier experience and if Brock wins than he gets to make the immediate splash i’m sure the UFC wants him to. And if you watch Lesnars only fight you can see he doesnt have the “lay and pray” attitude. He fights to pass guard and control the opponent and lay some heavy shots. Very Interesting Fight.
I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.
[quote comment=”204718″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.[/quote]
As I satated earlier, I don’t think Brock can be caught in a Triangle lock. I think his shoulders and neck are too big to be submitted by a traingle choke. I think if Brock tried to Powerbomb him (which would hysterically make me laugh) I think Mir would shift his hips release the head tight up the arm and submit him via armbar similiar to Tim Slyvia.
Brock is a strong wrestler, but I think with him going into this fight, I think he might be afraid to get caught in a submission so he might use the lay and pray tactic. I mean we all have seen these over hyped fighters come into the UFC, and get cage fright and it certainlly can happen to Brock as well.
Its a great match, and I pray that it is the swingbout so we can see it on TV.
[quote comment=”204691″]Mir wins this easy by submission if he doesn’t gas. That’s the problem with Frank — his cardio is horrendous. And Lesnar is as strong as a fucking ox and will no doubt push the pace early. Mir has to catch him with something before he gets overwhelmed and exhausted. Not a great fight in my book. Either Mir comes in shape and submits Lesnar quick or Lesnar uses his strength and power to pound out Mir.[/quote]
Yup instead of writing an analysis, I’m going to agree with yours’ if it’s the Mir of old, he should win early, hard to tell who is going to show up and of course Lesnar is just an MMA youngster with little experience. Can never really tell what a guys got until he faces some real adversity, Mir’s comeback for a incredible accident has taken a longer than many of us anticipated, I wish him the best though, and hope win or lose he shows a credible performance.
I don’t know that Lesnar wins this one…I’m predicting him to be the next big bust.
As far as Arlovski goes, I would like to see an Arlovski/CroCop fight. That would be bad ass.
[quote comment=”204727″][quote comment=”204718″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.[/quote]
As I satated earlier, I don’t think Brock can be caught in a Triangle lock. I think his shoulders and neck are too big to be submitted by a traingle choke. I think if Brock tried to Powerbomb him (which would hysterically make me laugh) I think Mir would shift his hips release the head tight up the arm and submit him via armbar similiar to Tim Slyvia.
Brock is a strong wrestler, but I think with him going into this fight, I think he might be afraid to get caught in a submission so he might use the lay and pray tactic. I mean we all have seen these over hyped fighters come into the UFC, and get cage fright and it certainlly can happen to Brock as well.
Its a great match, and I pray that it is the swingbout so we can see it on TV.[/quote]
Oh believe you me, it WILL be televised.
I wouldn’t think for a second that MIR will win just because hes trained longer and has more experience. Also, i wouldn’t think brock would win just because hes famous.
Great fighters have been beaten by inexperienced fighters on many occasions
None of us have much clue as too how good lesner is with any area of MMA. All we have is his debut fight to look at.
I think lesnar is going to be in amazing shape. Hes got a great attitude.
Lesnar will probably knock MIR out within the first round or submit him
hahahahahaaaa,
Mir via submission(the same that he did to Tank)
You people act like Brock Lesnar is the worlds strongest man. You must also remember that Frank Mir also has stregnth as an attribute. Back in the early 2000’s Lesnar was found with massive amounts of growth hormone. Brock’s body is not ripped up like his days in pro wrestling. Being deprived of HGH and other anabolics will do that to you.
The size difference will not be as big as most expect.
Lesnar isn’t ready for Mir. Just a dumb move by Dana killing a great draw and potentially great fighter before he had a chance to develope his skills. I was thinking Brad Imes.
This is fight could very well be the beginning of a great career for Lesnar or the beginning of Frank Mir getting back to where he was before the accident.
Yes, whoever wins this fight is gonna get some recognition.
But why for some reason do i think Dana White wants Lesnar to walk all over Mir ?
[quote post=”3790″]bad first real fight for lesnar, pure wrestler vs excellent submissionist = bad night for wrestler[/quote]
Good point Nathan, Randy is a good example. A good part of his losses came from submision guys in his early days when he was just a wrestler(2 years of MMA isn’t enough). Wrestling is a great base to start with, but with out a well rounded game Brock won’t get too far,no matter how JUICED he is(and he is juiced).
[quote post=”3790″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength. [/quote]
I’m sure Brock has the strenth advantage ,but Mir isn’t exactaly a skinny little weasle (how many guys have the power to snap Tim big arm). When Mir locks a sub on, there is no getting out, it’s tapout, passout or SNAP.
frank mir breaks his arm in round 1.
by that i mean frank mir wins via TKO(broken arm).
Ok, personally i think that brock is too strong to get caught in mirs submissions, similar to how ian freeman powered out of them, except brock lesnar is about 2.5x as strong as ian freeman.
i think we got to see a glimpse in to brocks bjj in his last fight, where he took him down, very quickly went to half guard then easily passed half guard. but we will see where his bjj really is.
i see Brock lesnar via Ownage.
Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.
[quote comment=”204755″]Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.[/quote]
Tank is even slower than Tim Sylvia. Nobody in MMA has Lesnar’s combination of size, strength, speed, and agility.
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.
too bad big bench presses have nothing to do with mma. lesnar and abbott are in different leagues. lenar is in much better shape. however, frank mir by submission in rd 2 or tko. too much cage exp and he looked very good against hardonk
Has no one seen the ufc 1-4? What the hell did that teach us? Ill tell you size means nothing, If brock gets cuaght in a submission, Guess what? His strength is going to fix the problem, Plus, I dont think he will be that much bigger than Mir anyways. He must of had to start some serious cardio so he probably dropped 20 pounds.
Does anybody have Mir’s last fight agaisnt Hardonk? Or konw where I can find it?
[quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Renato “Charuto” Verissimo..
[quote comment=”204775″][quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Renato “Charuto” Verissimo..[/quote]
Speaking of which, did you see his fight with Jake Shields? How did that HAPPEN!!! Man I was sooooo disappointed. I like Jake, but man, Renato is WAY better than that.
does anyone know when crocop should be fighting next?
Mir will win this fight.
Hmmm… I feel like a deuch because I wasn’t on the UFC bandwagon to see Mir’s better days, there were better things on tv to watch (PRIDE FIGHTING) but from what I’ve seen of him in his post accident years I’m not sure what fighter we’re going to see in this fight. If he’s a 100% both mentally and physically I will have to give him an edge over Brock on sheer octagon experience; I think some one else said it well when they stated that Brock has the tools but he’s never been punched in the mouth.
I guess there is brocks first spoon feed fight. Like everyones been saying. Big brock on the juice will get every fight handed to him. Not that im on a band wagon but ive posted it before. Brock is gonna be a force in the heavyweight division and this will be a eye opener for everyone if he wins. Now no more bullcrap. When brock wins all you who run your mouth can stfu!
[quote comment=”204766″]Has no one seen the ufc 1-4? What the hell did that teach us? Ill tell you size means nothing, If brock gets cuaght in a submission, Guess what? His strength is going to fix the problem, Plus, I dont think he will be that much bigger than Mir anyways. He must of had to start some serious cardio so he probably dropped 20 pounds.[/quote]
UFC 1-4 taught us that size means nothing when one guy doesn’t know BJJ and the other does. However with some BJJ knowledge and decent submission defense, size can mean quite a lot.
Brock is an accomplished wrestler, and he’s been training in MMA for two years. I assume that’s been more BJJ than anything since he’s going to want to take the fight to the ground. Lesner may end being the heavyweight version of Sean Sherk or Matt Hughes.
Brock Lesnar can bench press at 700 IB back at the WWE and squat at 950 IB.
Actually I was surprised to find on criticalbench.com Brocks max is a mere 475lb. Still immensely strong benches are not the only test of strength.
haha, i knew this was gonna happen - mir v lesnar, mir will win in the 1st round - whoever said tat the UFC need brock to win his 1st is an idiot - do you think they wanna look after a wwe guy over their own former champ? get real, they will treat lesnar like evry other newcomer, if he doesnt perform well in his 1st fight he will simply slide down the ladder
Sorry pal, but Brock lesnar will destroy ur former shitty HW ufc champion in Round 1 via submission or by brutal strike.Brock Lesnar already future UFC HW Champ. soon!!!
[quote comment=”204712″]If this goes to the scorecards, nomatter how much Mir may be ahead, he’s fucked because there is no way the UFC is going to let Brock lose a decision.
Stomp his arrogant ass, GO MIR![/quote]
and there is no way mir could ever win a decision! if it goes three round it is because brock takes him down at will and control him all night long..
I hope he doesnt just blanket everyone. I dont know why everyone is so excited about this guy coming, I personally see boredom in our future.
I swear to god if lesnar is a “lay and pray” guy Im gonna shoot myself.
Hope Lesnar is getting getting his bandwagon ready, cuz if he wins everyone will be on it.
Guys….. Ill give you the fact that Mir looked out of shape when he came back, but Mir is totally a top contender. He will prove it in this fight. Maybe he came back too early and he payed for it but jesus…… the dude was crazy in his last match. Hes totally gonna dismantle Lesnar. Lesnar I dont think has a chance and Mir is gonna wipe the mat with him. Im seriously going to put money on Mir. Guaranteed money.
I have to agree with those people out there,YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL INSANE BROCK LESNAR IS.I’ll put my bucks on Brock on that one.He’s a 4xNCAA champion and was rank no1 in the world last time i checked.Furthermore Frank Mir win over Tim Sylvia was an armbar victory and i saw that fight i’m telling Tim could have kill Mir if the fight had continue so,Mir didn’t deserve the victory and the HW UFC belt AT ALL.
Well watching the Lesnar fight on the net.
He is just intense…
The man when he passed guard just kept firing the mitts in, and they were solid punches everyone of em.
It will be a great fight but it wont go past 1st round unless mir runs or lesnar gets tired after 4 1/2 minutes of pounding relentlessly.
I dont think arlovski vs Lesnar would be as good a fight right now, arlovski is a big name with lots to lose. Where both these guys will gain 2-3X the “Image Points” if they can pull it off. Think Gonzaga and Cro-cop match. GG got the title fight cause of the highlight reel ko. This fight will put the winner way above cro-cop(3rd tier) but below gonzaga(1st Tier). The loser will be still even regarded higher than Cro-cop unless its a 15 second fight.
The big money goes on Lesnar. Via KO on the ground at 1minute 45 seconds. Takedown (Lesnar), Armbar attempt (Mir), Escape and Mir Turtles. Lesnar gets back and caves in both sides of mirs head. There really is no way to “Cushion or block his shots on the ground” he will just beat you with your own gloves.
We shall see…
BJJ is an art that is made to fight off this kind of strength(Lesner). If Mir does not gas(Lesnar will not gas) he should be able to finess a submission in on Lesnar. Two years of MMA training doesnt compare to Mir’s career of training and being in the big show. Lesnar has a good chance a good chance at slipping up, not keeping hands on chest, leaving an arm in coming out of guard(Is he stong enoughto slam his way out of an arm. finness vs. Brawn….I bet Finess..
[quote comment=”204826″]Sorry pal, but Brock lesnar will destroy ur former shitty HW ufc champion in Round 1 via submission or by brutal strike.Brock Lesnar already future UFC HW Champ. soon!!![/quote]
hahahaaa - check this guy ‘brocky’ out - a hardcore WWE fan who thinks he knows all about MMA now lesnar is in the UFC - punk, shut your face - Mir wasnt a shitty champ, he grabs a limb and it comes off, its as simple as that - dont even think just cuz lesnar is strong hes gonna win - mir is a huge HW, hes got plenty of muscle to do damage in a grapple. oh an by the way ‘brocky’ their is no script in the UFC so dont be suprised if Mir wins in 60 seconds
Mir does not want to put Brock in a Triangle choke..The guy is way too big..way too strong..I think he needs a top position..GnP..rear naked..or heel hooks.
These stupid athletes havn’t learned how to ride a motorcycle. Ben Rothlisberger and Frank Mir both in major accidents that could have ended their careers.
This almost a lose lose fight for Mir. If he wins, he’s just beating that pro-wrestler guy which is what an experienced MMA fighter is expected to do, and if he loses, then He’s knocked out of any serious title contention… Still, I am very psyched about this match up.
When I think about it further, Frank Mir’s best chance to win will be within the first 2 and a half minutes. It is at this point he should hope to either take the fight to the ground or get taken to the ground by Brock Lesnar. During this stage, Lesnar will not have broken a good sweat at thus will be susceptible to an ankle lock or arm bar. Still so, Lesnar’s limbs are very freakishly large for a guy his size. It will be slightly difficult for Mir to submit him, much like it is difficult for numerous 155ers to try and submit Sean Sherk.
I don’t want to be a guy who jumps on the circus show ban wagon, but the further the fight goes i.e. mid 2nd round, the worse I see it going for Frank Mir. Brock has a good wretling background and his sheer mass of a body and be too much for a third tier guy like Frank Mir to handle.
Prediction
Brock Lesnar end of round 1 ref stoppage
What’s Brock going to do now that the Writers Guild is on strike?
[quote comment=”204806″]Lesner may end being the heavyweight version of Sean Sherk or Matt Hughes.[/quote]
Incredibly boring and all roided up?(in Sherk’s case at least)
Brock is going to be submitted in Rd 1 via Armbar. Another big wrestler. “he’s too strong to be submitted! He’ll drop a choke slam on him! Brock is too strong!” *yawn*
Brock could win, but I doubt he has the ground game to handle Mir’s subs yet. I’ll laugh if he gets a broken arm like Bitch Tits did.
[quote comment=”204886″]This almost a lose lose fight for Mir. If he wins, he’s just beating that pro-wrestler guy which is what an experienced MMA fighter is expected to do, and if he loses, then He’s knocked out of any serious title contention… Still, I am very psyched about this match up.[/quote]
If he wins it will be a huge win for all the MMA fighters. It will prove that not everyone with musclee and wrestling ability could just walk in and compete with the best there is.
[quote post=”3790″]I swear to god if lesnar is a “lay and pray” guy Im gonna shoot myself. [/quote]
lesnar seemed to pass min koosims guard very, very easily, however he may have trouble passing mirs guard, we will see.
[quote comment=”204676″]Nice Match up. Who is Andrei Arlovski going to fight then? thought it was Brock Lesnar.[/quote]
WHAT? Arlovski will not fight again until he re-signs his contract - there’s only 1 fight on it. And why in the world would you think that AA would be the perfect fight to start Brock Lesnar’s UFC career out with?
They would not match Brock up with an ‘elite’ HW for his first fight. However, they sure did match him up with a higher tier fighter than I was expecting. I think that once the fight hits the ground, that once Mir starts working his submissions, that Lesnar may very well be able to simply power his way out of most. For example, an arm bar from the guard, he would just stand and rip his arm right out of Mir’s grip. Mir has never been known for his standup, I would be really curious to see this fight stay up on the feet for at least a short period of time. Good for Lesnar calling out a former champ. Most people thought he’d be fighting the likes of Eddie Sanchez, Brad Imes, Kerry Schall, Antonio Hardonk..
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Interesting Jesse. But I actually think that Brocks defense to a Triangle Choke would be similar to Hughes/Newton, and Mir would get POWERBOMBED. The question is, who would end up unconcious?
[quote comment=”204868″]I have to agree with those people out there,YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL INSANE BROCK LESNAR IS.I’ll put my bucks on Brock on that one.He’s a 4xNCAA champion and was rank no1 in the world last time i checked.Furthermore Frank Mir win over Tim Sylvia was an armbar victory and i saw that fight i’m telling Tim could have kill Mir if the fight had continue so,Mir didn’t deserve the victory and the HW UFC belt AT ALL.[/quote]
He is not a 4xNCAA champion. He won the Junior College Championship in 1998 and the NCAA in 2000.
[quote comment=”204688″]So much for slowly introducing Brock. This isn’t Frank the Champion of ‘04 but he’s still a BBJ expert and has way more experience than Lesnar. This is good because we’ll all see where his 2 years of MMA training has brought him. It takes serious cojones to step in the octagon with a former champ in your second pro fight, but it isn’t much of a surprise from to all us original Brock fans. Watch all the doubters start to back peddle from their earlier comments that he wouldn’t make it.[/quote]
I was going to say the same thing. I thought Brock was gonna start off fighting some bums first. I remember the other day someone mentioning Mir, and I thought he wouldn’t be ready for a former champ. I’ll be rooting for Lesnar for his whole career.
IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?!
meanwhile chuck DOESN’t CARE if he wins or loses he “ll get
500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn’t care oh and he’s crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can’t DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He’ll do it
if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP
Quick Question: In Mir’s first fight back, I remember him losing to Marcio Cruz, and I just double checked and it was by TKO. Does anyone remember where Cruz did most of the damage? Was it on the feet or on the ground?
In the early moments of the fight, Frank Mir shoud go for a flying heel hook. That would be crazy.
[quote comment=”204755″]Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.[/quote]
How much weight you can bench means next to nothing in MMA, which everyone was saying in the Houston Alexander thread were he lifts 450 lbs. Pure strenth plus extreme exposiveness equals tremendous power. Brock is light years more powerful than Tank Abbott in my opinion. I wonder how much Brock Lesnar can bench. GRIFFINFAN05, do you or any of the WWE fans know?
[quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Huh? Anderson Silva can triangle choke Brock? You’re kidding right? If ANYONE would be able to, they would have to have extemely looong legs, preferably on the skinny side, but they still have to be super strong. Anderson does not have the strength to submit Lesnar by Triangle. He would get picked up and dropped onto his head so hard, that he’d even forfeit his Cage Rage belt. But anyways, why would you even bring up a MW’s name to submit a HW???
[quote comment=”204775″][quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Renato “Charuto” Verissimo..[/quote]
LOL. now someone is saying that a WW can do it? Geez. Most people agree that big strong BJJ expert Frank Mir can’t do it, yet people think that Anderson, and even more funny, Cheruto can do it? Cheruto couldn’t even get 170lb Jake Shields off of him. Cheruto looked like a white belt BJJ fighter in that fight, completely clueless.
[quote post=”3790″]whoever said tat the UFC need brock to win his 1st is an idiot - do you think they wanna look after a wwe guy over their own former champ?[/quote]
I GUARANTEE you that the UFC wants Brock to win. Why in the world would they go after him so eagerly to sign him? I am VERY interested to see how much money he is going to get paid in his first fights under his contract. Does ANYONE have any insight into this? I doubt it, but I figured I’d ask anyway. If the UFC wanted him to lose, then why would they be promoting him so much? We are going to see so much on Brock Lesnar once that event starts approaching. That fight will be bigger than the main event. I still don’t think that Randy will fight Big Nog, and that’s when that fight was scheduled to happen. They will need a main event. Rampage won’t be ready to defend (injury). Neither will Hughes/Serra. Neither will BJ/Sherk/Stevenson. Anderson Silva is the only champ that would be ready to go for early February. But the big question is, who can he fight. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, Dan Henderson will move down to MW for Super Bowl weekend to fight Anderson. THAT is what I am hoping for.
mir ready to get run over by a truck.brock first round by the f-5
This should be a great matchup, the raw power of Brock vs. the brilliant BJJ of Mir should make for an interesting match-up. As for a winner in this one, I’m saying Brock will walk away with this one via TKO stoppage in the 1st. Mir in the past has been a great fighter, but thats just it, in the past… Granted he’s been working at getting back into pre-accident condition, I personally dont thing he will get back to the level of competition the UFC is offering up in the H/W division right now.
I could see it going either way…I’m just loving all these predictions…you guys are getting me pumped! It sucks we have to wait almost 3 months!
[quote comment=”204739″]Lesnar isn’t ready for Mir. Just a dumb move by Dana killing a great draw and potentially great fighter before he had a chance to develope his skills. I was thinking Brad Imes.[/quote]
I actually think it is a smart move by Dana. What would happen if Lesnar would lose to Brad Imes? He would be done. But if he loses to Mir, they say “Mir is a former champ, this was no slouch he fought”. They must be paying Mir good money for this, cause it makes no sense for him
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
He’ll need some long legs to pull that off
I just wanna see this Broc get beat up after all the trash talk.
[quote post=”3790″]Its a great match, and I pray that it is the swingbout so we can see it on TV.[/quote]
No doubt this will be televised. Also, I bet Lesnar will set a record pay day for a debut at only his 2nd match.
Once on the ground Mir is gonna get killed. Think about it, Marcio “Pe De Pano” Cruz bloodied the shit outta Mir and Mir couldn’t do anything.
Brock via 1st round tko!! I don’t think Mir will be able to match Brocks power or be able to pull off a submission. I don’t think Mir will be able to get hold of one of Lesnars tree stumps for an arm. God help Mir if he attempts a triangle…POWER BOMBED!!
Some people honestly think that in 3 months time Frank MIR will stand with his hand raised and lesnar looking down at the floor. No way.
You say this fight isn’t scripted.. how the hell do you know that?
It would be very wise to script this fight.
UFC will make millions out of lesnar if he wins
[quote comment=”204936″]I GUARANTEE you that the UFC wants Brock to win. Why in the world would they go after him so eagerly to sign him? I am VERY interested to see how much money he is going to get paid in his first fights under his contract. Does ANYONE have any insight into this? I doubt it, but I figured I’d ask anyway. If the UFC wanted him to lose, then why would they be promoting him so much? We are going to see so much on Brock Lesnar once that event starts approaching. That fight will be bigger than the main event. I still don’t think that Randy will fight Big Nog, and that’s when that fight was scheduled to happen. They will need a main event. Rampage won’t be ready to defend (injury). Neither will Hughes/Serra. Neither will BJ/Sherk/Stevenson. Anderson Silva is the only champ that would be ready to go for early February. But the big question is, who can he fight. HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY, Dan Henderson will move down to MW for Super Bowl weekend to fight Anderson. THAT is what I am hoping for.[/quote]
I agree Mike that the UFC wants him to win. This is good marketing for that paperview. Of course people will be interested in seeing Brock Lesnar in his UFC debut. Especially against a guy that at one time was one of the best HW’s in the world. That will sell tickets and PPV’s for sure. Especially as much as Lesnar has been hyping himself up. I mean this guy is coming from the WWE where if these guys wanted to be successful they need to be interesting characters. The UFC knows that and they are going to make money off of this guy no matter what. If he loses they will still make money so it is a win win situation for the UFC. I hope that if he wins he takes this seriously and shows respect for the sport. Otherwise the UFC may lose some fans.
I would love to see Hendo vs. Silva that would be unbelievable. Two of the best in the world.
I think that Brock seems to gaining more respect for the business as he trains longer. He seems to understand the stigma of being a pro wrestler is on him and he has to overcome that through hard work, respect and most of all victories against upper tier opponents. All that shit talking he did to hype himself up got him noticed by the UFC brass and people have been talking about his arrival in the UFC for months. I dont blame the guy for defending himself against those who feel he will only be there to create a circus atmosphere. The guy has been a LEGITIMATE athlete his whole life and wants to prove himself.
what a horrible matchup for lesnar. hes gonna try to take him down and thats where mir wants to be. and lesnar has 0 standup so if lensar is smart he wont take him down but then he will be screwed either way wow the UFC is already killing lesnaars career
i want mir to win but i really don’t know who to pick at this point, lesnar has only one fight no cage experience against a vet. should be a great fight hope it’s on the main card
I see Brock losing this match,renegging on his contract and then trying his luck at the NBA.
[quote comment=”204718″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.[/quote]
This is going to happen in the fight. Guaranteed.
I GUARANTEE you that the UFC wants Brock to win. Why in the world would they go after him so eagerly to sign him? I am VERY interested to see how much money he is going to get paid in his first fights under his contract. Does ANYONE have any insight into this? I doubt it, but I figured I’d ask anyway.
..just guessing I say the same as the pride guys..
I say no less than 350,000 to 500,000 just to show up.
Because he has a mainstream name.
this is a tough first fight for brock, his strength is going to have to be his best weapon in this fight…when mir goes for his submissions, brock is going to have to be able to power out of those…if he can do that, then he should be able to pull off some kind of tko stoppage or decision…i’m saying brock wins late in the 2nd or early 3rd from stoppage due to gnp…WAR LESNAR!
Mir by knee/ankle lock early.
You wrestling guys are cracking me up. I bet the 50/50 split is based primarily on age demographic.
Lesnar could club Mir like a baby seal if he can stay in his guard, but I see Mir triangling or reversing for RNC before any Lesnar GnP stoppage. Lesnar can’t box, no ground skills, but can wrestle and take guys down. Lesnar will be the XXL version of Sherk…lay n pray all day.
Brock Lesnar has an exibition body, not a strongman body. You might be surprised how much that mass works against him, not for him.
“He is too strong to be submitted”
Heh, sounds like a repeat of Nog vs Sapp to me
Wow. Good posts. Lesnar is definitely giving people something to talk about. This site seems split between people who want to see Lesnar proven unready for MMA, or want to see him climb the ranks using his size strength and speed. At first I was worried about the prospect of WWE fighters coming into the UFC (people already compare the two organizations, much to my frustration) but even though Brock only beat Min Soo Kim, that guy had a good showing in his fight after fighting Brock, and I think that Lesnar does have the power and the ability to compete in the UFC. Now he’s fighting Mir, and that could be a sick matchup. When you look at Mir’s sub skills, which looked great in the match against Hardonk (like some of you have mentioned) and the fact that people think Lesnar won’t have the submission defense to fight in the UFC, this fight is going to get a lot of hype, and rightly so; I think this fight will tell us something about MMA in general. I think that’s why they originally put the UFC together- to match styles against styles and see who comes out on top. I’m giving the advantage to Lesnar because I think he will be hard to hold onto from the bottom. Frank is probably the perfect guy to have Lesnar fight first, and I think he will go into the fight with an intelligent gameplan. I just want an exciting fight, and I think these guys will deliver.
[quote comment=”205106″]”He is too strong to be submitted”
Heh, sounds like a repeat of Nog vs Sapp to me[/quote]
Sapp is huge but he’s a pussy. He cried like a baby when CroCop punched him in the mouth. Hell I would too, but I’m not a 400lb man.
[quote post=”3790″]How much weight you can bench means next to nothing in MMA, which everyone was saying in the Houston Alexander thread were he lifts 450 lbs. Pure strenth plus extreme exposiveness equals tremendous power. Brock is light years more powerful than Tank Abbott in my opinion. I wonder how much Brock Lesnar can bench. GRIFFINFAN05, do you or any of the WWE fans know?[/quote]
I don’t know what he benches, but in WWE he had a long-running story line with Big Show. Brock’s signature finishing move requires him to hoist the opponent up onto his back and deliver a twisting face-first slam known as the F-5, and he did this to Big Show numerous times. Dude weighs over 500 pound, and there is just no way to fake getting hold of that big a guy, squatting him and holding him up in the air for showmanship before slamming him.
I just found a link to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUt-5PnrfjY
I was at the show when Lesnar gave The Big Show the F-5 for the first time. I took a picture of it, and had Lesnar sign it for me. I actually met him twice at a local mall. He’s a big dude. Seemed like a dick though. He didn’t smile or talk to anyone. Didn’t even smile for the people paying good money to have there picture taken with him. Normally the person signing autographs will put there hand out to shake, but not him. I put my hand out and he shook it though. He actually was talking to me about the picture and where it was. It was cool. I have a polaroid pic of me with him and he signed it. Also, the pic of him at the top of the page was one of his first WWE promo pictures. I have that signed too.
[quote comment=”204698″]Lesnar doesn’t even look human… he’s like a hairless polar bear or something… I would say that Mir wins by first round submission, because a wrestling background with 2 years of MMA training shouldn’t be enough to get past Mir’s submissions. Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia…[/quote]
A hairless polar bear LOL
[quote comment=”205047″]I GUARANTEE you that the UFC wants Brock to win. Why in the world would they go after him so eagerly to sign him? I am VERY interested to see how much money he is going to get paid in his first fights under his contract. Does ANYONE have any insight into this? I doubt it, but I figured I’d ask anyway.
..just guessing I say the same as the pride guys..
I say no less than 350,000 to 500,000 just to show up.
Because he has a mainstream name.[/quote]
I’d say that that sounds about right. But the amazing this is that I think that he should be one of the few fighters that gets a cut of the PPV money. I guarantee that the Feb event with Lesnar will be one of, if not the top selling UFC PPV. All the little wrestling fans that already pay $40 a month to watch fake crap will gladly fork over $40 to see one of their heroes in a “real” fight. However, since its only his 2nd mma fight, 1st in the UFC, they should have to sell over a certain number of PPV’s for him to get a cut. Say, every PPV order over the 500,000, Lesnar will get a cut. That way he makes money for all the wrestling fans that are ordering the PPV just to see him.
Brock kills him!! Mir won’t be able to submit Lesnar. You kno right now Brocks working on his stand up and submission defence. Brocks going to take him down from the start and just pound him. He’s going to be too strong for Mir to handle. Mir’s gonna realize what he got himself into once Brock gets hold of him. Mir will want to keep this fight standing up and hope he can land a knockout punch.
[quote post=”3790″]Mir will want to keep this fight standing up and hope he can land a knockout punch. [/quote]
and Mir only has 1 KO victory via a sweet combo to Wes Sims.
Why is it that every pic of Brock looks like he’s trying to take a 20 lb crap, but it just wont budge?
Seriously, with only 1 fight behind him, Brock shouldn’t get a fast track into the UFC.
One of the main reasons brock was persued by UFC is because he has a large fan base from pro wresteling that will definitely follow his UFC career and end up being permanate UFC fans even if thier boy is a bust. Smart move by Dana
Mir by first round submission
[quote comment=”204738″]You people act like Brock Lesnar is the worlds strongest man. You must also remember that Frank Mir also has stregnth as an attribute. Back in the early 2000’s Lesnar was found with massive amounts of growth hormone. Brock’s body is not ripped up like his days in pro wrestling. Being deprived of HGH and other anabolics will do that to you.
The size difference will not be as big as most expect.[/quote]
agreed
[quote comment=”205030″]I see Brock losing this match,renegging on his contract and then trying his luck at the NBA.[/quote]
lol
I cant wait for Frank to break another arm and I believe this guy is going to be next.Lots of muscles.If I was him I would go to compete in for Mr olympia , he might win over there.Frank Mir is a great fighter and after that last win, He will submit this a guy in less than a minute.You have to give a lot of credit to him. It is not easy to go through what he went through and being fighting in the UFC and winning.The UFC might have a lot of expectations with him, but these ones are going to be over after he fights Mir.I hope so.
Brock “The Vanilla Gorilla” Lesnar is gonna give Frank “Damn, I’m almost out of Gas” Mir the old “Double Powerbomb into spinning F-5″ combo and then climb the cage and hit the “Brock Star Press” onto his prone corpse. The Ref will count 1-2-3 and it’s all over….
Brock Lesnar via brutal strike in Round 1.
Brock Lesnar soon to be 2-0.
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE? HA HA funny, Lesnar will pick him up and POUND SLAM his azz the way Rampage did to Arona back in Pride!
You clowns talking sh*t seem to forget that this Frank Mir guy LOST to Brandon Vera, how the fcuk do you think that looks?
[quote comment=”205396″]You clowns talking sh*t seem to forget that this Frank Mir guy LOST to Brandon Vera, how the fcuk do you think that looks?[/quote]
vera is a very good striker and stunned mir and the rest was history, lesnar isn’t a good striker and has no submission defense his only real chance is a fluke ko to me. No way is mir going to let him lay and pray for 3 rounds, mirs very good on the ground unless he’s stunned first he’s going to submit lesnar, you can take that to the bank.
I myself being in the UFC have seen lesnar fight personaly, hes good but ive been watching the training that Mir has been doing lately to get up to pace and hes really gotten his cardio up to where it needs to be at and yes he is still the shit on the ground but lesnar is powerful it will be a fun match up very even because one lacks in areas that one excels in. Just watch and see youll be suprised.
[quote comment=”205736″][quote comment=”205396″]You clowns talking sh*t seem to forget that this Frank Mir guy LOST to Brandon Vera, how the fcuk do you think that looks?[/quote]
vera is a very good striker and stunned mir and the rest was history, lesnar isn’t a good striker and has no submission defense his only real chance is a fluke ko to me. No way is mir going to let him lay and pray for 3 rounds, mirs very good on the ground unless he’s stunned first he’s going to submit lesnar, you can take that to the bank.[/quote]
“this Frank Mir guy” ? lol
You wrastlin’ guys crack me up.
Good call, Nathan. I say kneebar/ankle lock or RNC.
Lesnar has no strikes, no ground and will have to pass to use gnp. I like Mir all the way by sub.
[quote post=”3790″]Brock Lesnar has an exibition body, not a strongman body. [/quote]
I don’t think so. Brock is a farm boy like Hughes. He’s been built since at least college: http://www.pub.umich.edu/daily/2000/feb/02-23-2000/sports/photos/brock1jpg.gif
I doubt that he was training for looks while competing in the NCAA. Unlike new pro wrestling idol John Cena, Brock is a real athlete. He almost made it to the Minny Vikings as a walk-on. The coach said he’s an NFL-calibre athlete, but he needed to learn more details about the game.
Here’s the video of Brock training: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTczMKtmvdQ
Brock does a lot of caveman stuff. Bodybuilders rarely do that kind of training.
[quote comment=”205106″]”He is too strong to be submitted”
Heh, sounds like a repeat of Nog vs Sapp to me[/quote]
I agree. The principle of BJJ is using most of your body against one joint. If you’re caught in a proper submission, it doesn’t matter how strong your muscles are, your ligaments can only take so much,
[quote post=”3790″]Huh? Anderson Silva can triangle choke Brock? You’re kidding right? If ANYONE would be able to, they would have to have extemely looong legs, preferably on the skinny side, but they still have to be super strong. Anderson does not have the strength to submit Lesnar by Triangle. He would get picked up and dropped onto his head so hard, that he’d even forfeit his Cage Rage belt. But anyways, why would you even bring up a MW’s name to submit a HW???[/quote]
Sorry, I simply meant Anderson is the only one I see in the UFC who is long and lanky enough just to have the ability to put the hold on Lesnar. I’m not saying he would choke him out with it in a match.
[quote comment=”204738″]You people act like Brock Lesnar is the worlds strongest man.[/quote]
Yeah, everybody knows that Mark Henry is the world’s strongest man lolz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqWkt6_GwUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OBh55P58nU
MIRS GONNA FUK HIM UP
Brock is gonna win i know it
UFC 81 is gonna be the sh1t damn i cant wait Im goin for brock im payin for brock
haha Powerbomb hes ass to make the mir fans look bad and who is this mir guy?? never heard of him
I hope that Mir beats the shit out of Lesnar, I dont see Lesnar making any noise in the UFC he should of stuck to that fake shit hes used to , now he’s playing with the big boys the only thing he got is take downs cause he so big he will get picked apart on the feet.
K-1 is alot different than UFC. I hope Mir shows him what its all about.
Good luck to both fighters
u’ll see guys,Brock lesnar will crush Frank Mir ROund 1 via brutal strike.
Frank trains at my gym, and he’s a jiu-jitsu coach there as well. Frank is taking this VERY seriously, and he is in damn good shape. He no longer feels the effects of the accident, and is no longer fighting against doctor’s orders. This will be his second fight since training at Striking Unlimited with Ken Hahn, and his cardio is no longer an issue. His striking is much improved since he’s been training with Ken. Ken is an official trainer for K-1 Kickboxing, and you can tell that Frank is getting very comfortable with his striking.
[quote comment=”204710″]I just can’t see Brock winning this one.
Why would Frank take this fight? Besting someone with a 1-0 professional record could not do very much for his title contention.
Why would Brock take this fight? Unless something miraculous happened to Brock giving him an additional ten years of combat training in two years time, he is going to suffer. Who knows maybe for the right price Frank will take a dive?[/quote]
its all about the money, theres, lots of speculation of whos gonna win, but the bottom line is, most of these people who have commented are deffinatly going to watch this match, i no i am, ratings and money, its what its all about!
[quote comment=”204666″]i cant wait but i am still not sure if brock will pull it off[/quote]
BROCK WILL WHIP FRANK MIR’S ASS THATS FOR SURE.
SHEER STRENGTH MAN!!!!
F-5 BABY YEAH!!!!
Absolutely, Brock Lesnar is being trained by Erik Paulson,which is the main reason why is going to CRUSH MIR,
I feel really bad for Mir…………….
lesnar is goin to rape mir and become champ very soon mark my words people its true!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG this is going to be a great fight!!! I don’t think Franks
Brazilian jiu-jitsu is going to hold in the power of Lesnar’s
strength when they get to the ground
I think that samoa is a bumb!
brock will win….after 3 years of not missing a ppveiw and doing mma myself for 5 years now i dont know why any of u doubt him…hes a ncaa champ and a ncaa 2 place …he can bench like 500 pounds frank is 240…if frank grabs his arm and goes for a arm bar he would most likely pull his arm out…he gets in a triangle he’l pick his ass up and slam him frank is gone …and frank vrs tim 2??? who the fuck would wanna see that… tim sylvia is boring…vera vrs silva worst fight ever
[quote comment=”205076″]Mir by knee/ankle lock early.
You wrestling guys are cracking me up. I bet the 50/50 split is based primarily on age demographic.
Lesnar could club Mir like a baby seal if he can stay in his guard, but I see Mir triangling or reversing for RNC before any Lesnar GnP stoppage. Lesnar can’t box, no ground skills, but can wrestle and take guys down. Lesnar will be the XXL version of Sherk…lay n pray all day.
Brock Lesnar has an exibition body, not a strongman body. You might be surprised how much that mass works against him, not for him.[/quote]
How do you know Brock has no standup? How do you know Brock has no ground game? He has had only one proffesional fight that lasted 70secs. No one really knows the extent of Brock’s standup or his ground game, but to say he has neither is a very hasty comment at best. On the substance abuse portion of Brock’s biography, he was found with HGH on him not steroids. Some say is just symantecs, but theres a huge difference between anobolic steroids and a growth hormone. Oh yeah and FYI he never tested positive in his entire collegiant career for substance abuse, or at anytime there after. Brock is a natural athlete, meaning he excels at anything athletic he does. He will excel as a MMA fighter simply because he will refuse to lose.Its a scary thing when you see someone as big and as strong as Brock, but its even scarier when you know he is as agile and fast as a 175lb fighter. So as a wrestlers moto goes “Strength Punishes and Speed Kills”, what happens when you have both. Ill tell you. Frank Mir destroyed in 70 secs or less.
I think Brock can win this fight they should have put him against a better heavywight Like Cro cop or Kongo either or, I hope he gets his stupid steroid ass beat so people can quit geting excited about ex wec wrestlers who are idiots same to Mayweather friggen retarded looken fool and his dad lookin like alien vs predator with those damn dreads or whatever the hell he has. Mir needs to be the agressor and not back down a loss to Lesnar will be humiliating and other Idiots that arent even MMA starts will wanna join from base ball basket ball Extcc.. so let go Mir get it done.
Man, Lesnars way to strong for Mir. He’s not going to be able to grapple with a 120 kg monster.
Lesnar has a way better advantage, by height , by weight and
he’s also very skillful in wrestling like Dan Severn and was trained by Royce Gracie for a while.
Lesnar has a record of 33-0 in his high school wrestling and has a recored of 106-5 in National Collegiate Athletic Association
Honestly does this hurt the WWE…cuz if WWE fans like Brock than they will see this show…then if they happen to like UFC then they start ordering more UFC and less of the Big 4 WWE PPVS…just like Wrestlemania vs Hughes vs Gracie…But honestly I can’t choose sides…both are good but brock isn’t good as couture right now but we’ll see after this match
This fight will last longer than round 1. However, when the match starts Frank Mir will realize he is about fight a pure beast. You can be the best Martial Artist in the world, but you would still die if you stood face to face with a gorilla… I saw Brock at Wrestlemania 19, did you guys see his attempt at a shooting star press? he messed it up and landed straight on his head, that’s 300 pounds of force from a 10 foot drop, and still got up to finish the match; he is the toughest mofo on the planet. his strength is seriously inhuman and i guarantee he will find a victorty over Frank Mir.
Why are people so harsh on WWE? why, because it is fake? duh. it is scripted, just like every other t.v. show. it is entertaining though right? world wrestling ENTERTAINMENT, that’s all it is. it is ok to hate it, but at least have a real reason, like you could say it is full of a bunch of freaks and unpleasing to watch, this is perfectly fine. the wrestlers are actually very good professionals at what they do, and the strength is very real. some of the guys do steroids and some don’t. you want to see a match of pure steroidless-strength? watch this, brock lesnar vs mark henry aka world’s strongest man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtwYZoJmVCs
Brocks gonna kill mir, alot of you say Mirs more experianced but Brocks been wrestling since he was 5 its gonna be a hard match for brock but Mir will underestimate brocks power
Brock will kick everyone’s ass in the UFC and there’s nothing any of these 2nd class atheletes can do about it. Quit your crying after all you asked for it. Here comes the pain Next big thing is Here!!!! Brock Lesnar
[quote comment=”266774″]Brock will kick everyone’s ass in the UFC and there’s nothing any of these 2nd class atheletes can do about it. Quit your crying after all you asked for it. Here comes the pain Next big thing is Here!!!! Brock Lesnar[/quote]
I agree totally…The raw power alone will totally demoralize Mir in the first round….If Brock gets him down fast (he will), he will just pound him out with his fists…I predict fight stopped into 2 minuetes of round number one…
It is physicaly impossible for Mir to win- but if he does, it will be by his signature move, a
move he loves- the rear naked mount !
its official dat brocks gon beat the fuck out of him that guys huge !!1 and a lot buffer .trust me guys brocks gon kill him.trust me here comesss the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[quote comment=”207626″]I hope that Mir beats the shit out of Lesnar, I dont see Lesnar making any noise in the UFC he should of stuck to that fake shit hes used to , now he’s playing with the big boys the only thing he got is take downs cause he so big he will get picked apart on the feet.[/quote]
Well thats a nice way to think but Brock is for real trust it He not just a big slow guy he is a fighter look at his record at Minnesota 105-5. First fight was vs a nobody but he did a quick takedown from a weak kick and passed the guard fast. So for the guy who said Brock has no ground game is a mental Midget. By the way brock will not get choked out his head and neck is to big. The only way Brock losses is if he gets taken down pounded up against the fence or a armbar thats it. Brock standup is untested but his hands are huge one punch Mir will feel it. Thats it Bro
brock will fuck up his opponent on feb2 im with brock
[quote comment=”204684″]OMG. This is a great oppurtunity for Mir. I really hope he pulls it off and makes Lesnar realize he shouldn’t be in the UFC.[/quote]
Lesner is a big guy and has a lot of athetisism. He will dominate this fight just wait and see.
[quote comment=”287838″][quote comment=”207626″]I hope that Mir beats the shit out of Lesnar, I dont see Lesnar making any noise in the UFC he should of stuck to that fake shit hes used to , now he’s playing with the big boys the only thing he got is take downs cause he so big he will get picked apart on the feet.[/quote]
Well thats a nice way to think but Brock is for real trust it He not just a big slow guy he is a fighter look at his record at Minnesota 105-5. First fight was vs a nobody but he did a quick takedown from a weak kick and passed the guard fast. So for the guy who said Brock has no ground game is a mental Midget. By the way brock will not get choked out his head and neck is to big. The only way Brock losses is if he gets taken down pounded up against the fence or a armbar thats it. Brock standup is untested but his hands are huge one punch Mir will feel it. Thats it Bro[/quote]
Thats right he is a big man and has a lot of power behing those big hands. I think he will knock Mir out his stand up will be just fine. And for his ground game he is super bad. So I see this fight going to Brock.
[quote comment=”246964″]I think Brock can win this fight they should have put him against a better heavywight Like Cro cop or Kongo either or, I hope he gets his stupid steroid ass beat so people can quit geting excited about ex wec wrestlers who are idiots same to Mayweather friggen retarded looken fool and his dad lookin like alien vs predator with those damn dreads or whatever the hell he has. Mir needs to be the agressor and not back down a loss to Lesnar will be humiliating and other Idiots that arent even MMA starts will wanna join from base ball basket ball Extcc.. so let go Mir get it done.[/quote]
Lets see you get in the octagon with him I know I wouldn’t. Lesner will have a better chance than you think look at his college record. He is an athelte and will kick mir right out of the UFC
Brock will likr if it sint none. I think tht wrestling is so under rated an d because of his strength and with the wrestling skils that he leanred he will thak this
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH
BROCK LESNAR GOT OWNED AAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I KNEW MIR WAS TOO GOOD FOR HIM!! I HOPE THIS SHOWS ALL YOU BROCK LESNAR DICKRYDERS THAT POWER DOESN’T ALWAYS MEAN VICTORY, THIS IS REAL FIGHTING NOT THAT PUSSY PRO WWE BULL SHIT!
Brock Lesnar is the real deal! Take a look at that fight again people….Mir turned his head because the beating he was getting too intense. All this fight did was fuel the fire!! He can take anyone down at his will and hurt them tremendously. He just needs to work on his submission defense and he will not be stopped.
[quote comment=”294202″]AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAH
BROCK LESNAR GOT OWNED AAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I KNEW MIR WAS TOO GOOD FOR HIM!! I HOPE THIS SHOWS ALL YOU BROCK LESNAR DICKRYDERS THAT POWER DOESN’T ALWAYS MEAN VICTORY, THIS IS REAL FIGHTING NOT THAT PUSSY PRO WWE BULL SHIT![/quote]
thats funny since Mir himself disagrees with you.
AHHHAHAHAHHAHAH wait until the next fight. Mir looked like he was attacked in the face by 600 bumble bees, HE CAN”T HANDLE BROCK AND THAT WILL BE PROVEN SOON ENOUGH. That was a lucky move and I’ve seen them before in this game. If that bitch referee would not have cheated MIR’s face would still be crushed.THATS THE FACT JACK.