Recent high profile free agent acquisition Brock Lesnar (1-0) will make his Octagon debut against former heavyweight champion Frank Mir (10-3) at UFC 81 on February 2 in Las Vegas, Nevada, according to UFC.com.
Lesnar — a decorated NCAA wrestling champion and former professional wrestler — has indicated since his arrival that he wants to fight top competition. In Mir, he’s up against an experienced Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighter with years of professional fight experience to his credit.
On the other hand this will be just the second pro MMA fight for Lesnar. His first and only win came against Min Su Kim at a K-1 Hero’s event earlier this year.
Here’s a snip mash from UFC President Dana White.
“It’s an interesting match up. Lesnar is a great wrestler, a good athlete, and this is definitely gonna be a big test for him…. This guy’s not trying to duck anybody. He knew once he got in the UFC that he was gonna fight tough guys.”
Recent credible reports indicate that Lesnar requested the bout. He must see an opportunity to kick start his UFC career against one of the organization’s more well-known names.
Since returning in 2006 from a devastating motorcycle accident that nearly killed Mir two years ago he has looked sluggish and out of shape in some bouts. However, that all changed his last time out when he looked to be back to his former sensational form that made him a star.
In fact, “The Baddest Man on the Planet” made quick work of Antoni Hardonk at UFC 74: “Respect” in August, submitting the Dutch fighter via kimura in less than 80 seconds.
If both fighters prepare well for this bout it should be an exciting showdown at the Mandalay Bay Events Center on SuperBowl Saturday.
Fingers crossed.
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i cant wait but i am still not sure if brock will pull it off
I think this is a bad fight for lesnar. He’ll probably take Mir down but that’s where mir wants to be.
im down with that. i think its a tall order for brock’s first fight. but then again he talked a lot of shit so lets see him back it up!
OOohh SHizzlle!
Nice Match up. Who is Andrei Arlovski going to fight then? thought it was Brock Lesnar.
Brock Lesnar is GOING TO KILL FRANK MIR!! All doubters will become followers after this fight.
This is a good first fight for Brock, i dont think he’s ready for Andrei yet. We’ll to get see how good lesnars submission defence is.
The drinking game word for that match will be….
“athleticism!”
[quote comment=”204681″]The drinking game word for that match will be….
“athleticism!”[/quote]
lol
OMG. This is a great oppurtunity for Mir. I really hope he pulls it off and makes Lesnar realize he shouldn’t be in the UFC.
So much for slowly introducing Brock. This isn’t Frank the Champion of ‘04 but he’s still a BBJ expert and has way more experience than Lesnar. This is good because we’ll all see where his 2 years of MMA training has brought him. It takes serious cojones to step in the octagon with a former champ in your second pro fight, but it isn’t much of a surprise from to all us original Brock fans. Watch all the doubters start to back peddle from their earlier comments that he wouldn’t make it.
man broc has so much power. this will be a walk in the park for him.
The great thing about this is I think we’re going to see Frank Mir back on the contender list with this one.
Mir wins this easy by submission if he doesn’t gas. That’s the problem with Frank — his cardio is horrendous. And Lesnar is as strong as a fucking ox and will no doubt push the pace early. Mir has to catch him with something before he gets overwhelmed and exhausted. Not a great fight in my book. Either Mir comes in shape and submits Lesnar quick or Lesnar uses his strength and power to pound out Mir.
Yup i totally agree EDEN. LET’S GO MIR! Iv’e been a fan ever since the arm breakage of Tim Sylvia !
Hopefully Mir wins, I want to see Mir/Silvia 2
Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE
Lesnar doesn’t even look human… he’s like a hairless polar bear or something… I would say that Mir wins by first round submission, because a wrestling background with 2 years of MMA training shouldn’t be enough to get past Mir’s submissions. Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia…
I’m split. Lesnar’s power vs Mir’s BJJ. It will be an interesting fight. Say Lesnar gets past Mir, who’s next? Brandon Vera?
bad first real fight for lesnar, pure wrestler vs excellent submissionist = bad night for wrestler.
[quote comment=”204698″]Lesnar doesn’t even look human… he’s like a hairless polar bear or something… I would say that Mir wins by first round submission, because a wrestling background with 2 years of MMA training shouldn’t be enough to get past Mir’s submissions. Remember what happened to Tim Sylvia…[/quote]
No, polar bears have lots of fat to cope with the arctic climate.
I am thrilled by this match-up. Not only are these guys in my top 3 active heavyweights, but their strengths play into each others hands.
Lesnar and Mir do not have the best stand up in the world, and both should be looking for the takedowns. If Lesnar can control Mir on the ground and do a lay and pray he might be fine, but if Lesnar messes up Mir will catch him. One this is for sure, Brock has way to big of a neck and shoulders to be locked in a triangle joke.
MIR STAY HEALTHY PLEASE.
No way brock can pull this of unless mir is in bad shape! Your talking about the guy who is a former ufc champion and a guy who has one mma fight against a nobody and is all hype!You do the math!
I just can’t see Brock winning this one.
Why would Frank take this fight? Besting someone with a 1-0 professional record could not do very much for his title contention.
Why would Brock take this fight? Unless something miraculous happened to Brock giving him an additional ten years of combat training in two years time, he is going to suffer. Who knows maybe for the right price Frank will take a dive?
WAR MIR!!!!
If this goes to the scorecards, nomatter how much Mir may be ahead, he’s fucked because there is no way the UFC is going to let Brock lose a decision.
Stomp his arrogant ass, GO MIR!
[quote comment=”204710″]I just can’t see Brock winning this one.
Why would Frank take this fight? Besting someone with a 1-0 professional record could not do very much for his title contention.
Why would Brock take this fight? Unless something miraculous happened to Brock giving him an additional ten years of combat training in two years time, he is going to suffer. Who knows maybe for the right price Frank will take a dive?[/quote]
Because Brock is supposed to be “The Next Big Thing” just like he was supposed to be in Pro Wrestling and when Mir SUBS him in the 1st rd. people will have there eye on him again.
This is good, it’s cool to see everybody is pretty even with this one, half think Brock, half think Mir, I myself think Mir, and will be rooting for him hardcore, down with Brock, he needs a humbling expiriance before i’ll be down for that guy. I really like Mir, it’s sad to see what happened to him, hopefully the Mir of old comes back, then it’s OVER!!
I love the polarized viewpoint this matchup creates. Half the people think Brock has a good chance and half the people hoping he gets his arm broken. Mir hasnt quite gotten to the level he once was at and if he does gas out early i think this one will be a big win for Lesnar. You gotta give the guy credit though, he requested a match with a proven fighter. Unless Mir somehow catches him with an submission i dont think he can hang with the strength of Brock in a long war on the ground. Great matchmaking here if you ask me, both fighters come in with alot to prove and if Mir wins than Lesnar gets some upper tier experience and if Brock wins than he gets to make the immediate splash i’m sure the UFC wants him to. And if you watch Lesnars only fight you can see he doesnt have the “lay and pray” attitude. He fights to pass guard and control the opponent and lay some heavy shots. Very Interesting Fight.
I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.
[quote comment=”204718″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.[/quote]
As I satated earlier, I don’t think Brock can be caught in a Triangle lock. I think his shoulders and neck are too big to be submitted by a traingle choke. I think if Brock tried to Powerbomb him (which would hysterically make me laugh) I think Mir would shift his hips release the head tight up the arm and submit him via armbar similiar to Tim Slyvia.
Brock is a strong wrestler, but I think with him going into this fight, I think he might be afraid to get caught in a submission so he might use the lay and pray tactic. I mean we all have seen these over hyped fighters come into the UFC, and get cage fright and it certainlly can happen to Brock as well.
Its a great match, and I pray that it is the swingbout so we can see it on TV.
[quote comment=”204691″]Mir wins this easy by submission if he doesn’t gas. That’s the problem with Frank — his cardio is horrendous. And Lesnar is as strong as a fucking ox and will no doubt push the pace early. Mir has to catch him with something before he gets overwhelmed and exhausted. Not a great fight in my book. Either Mir comes in shape and submits Lesnar quick or Lesnar uses his strength and power to pound out Mir.[/quote]
Yup instead of writing an analysis, I’m going to agree with yours’ if it’s the Mir of old, he should win early, hard to tell who is going to show up and of course Lesnar is just an MMA youngster with little experience. Can never really tell what a guys got until he faces some real adversity, Mir’s comeback for a incredible accident has taken a longer than many of us anticipated, I wish him the best though, and hope win or lose he shows a credible performance.
I don’t know that Lesnar wins this one…I’m predicting him to be the next big bust.
As far as Arlovski goes, I would like to see an Arlovski/CroCop fight. That would be bad ass.
[quote comment=”204727″][quote comment=”204718″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength.[/quote]
As I satated earlier, I don’t think Brock can be caught in a Triangle lock. I think his shoulders and neck are too big to be submitted by a traingle choke. I think if Brock tried to Powerbomb him (which would hysterically make me laugh) I think Mir would shift his hips release the head tight up the arm and submit him via armbar similiar to Tim Slyvia.
Brock is a strong wrestler, but I think with him going into this fight, I think he might be afraid to get caught in a submission so he might use the lay and pray tactic. I mean we all have seen these over hyped fighters come into the UFC, and get cage fright and it certainlly can happen to Brock as well.
Its a great match, and I pray that it is the swingbout so we can see it on TV.[/quote]
Oh believe you me, it WILL be televised.
I wouldn’t think for a second that MIR will win just because hes trained longer and has more experience. Also, i wouldn’t think brock would win just because hes famous.
Great fighters have been beaten by inexperienced fighters on many occasions
None of us have much clue as too how good lesner is with any area of MMA. All we have is his debut fight to look at.
I think lesnar is going to be in amazing shape. Hes got a great attitude.
Lesnar will probably knock MIR out within the first round or submit him
hahahahahaaaa,
Mir via submission(the same that he did to Tank)
You people act like Brock Lesnar is the worlds strongest man. You must also remember that Frank Mir also has stregnth as an attribute. Back in the early 2000’s Lesnar was found with massive amounts of growth hormone. Brock’s body is not ripped up like his days in pro wrestling. Being deprived of HGH and other anabolics will do that to you.
The size difference will not be as big as most expect.
Lesnar isn’t ready for Mir. Just a dumb move by Dana killing a great draw and potentially great fighter before he had a chance to develope his skills. I was thinking Brad Imes.
This is fight could very well be the beginning of a great career for Lesnar or the beginning of Frank Mir getting back to where he was before the accident.
Yes, whoever wins this fight is gonna get some recognition.
But why for some reason do i think Dana White wants Lesnar to walk all over Mir ?
[quote post=”3790″]bad first real fight for lesnar, pure wrestler vs excellent submissionist = bad night for wrestler[/quote]
Good point Nathan, Randy is a good example. A good part of his losses came from submision guys in his early days when he was just a wrestler(2 years of MMA isn’t enough). Wrestling is a great base to start with, but with out a well rounded game Brock won’t get too far,no matter how JUICED he is(and he is juiced).
[quote post=”3790″]I’m sure you are all familiar with the most common escape for a triangle, right? I’m sure Brock Lesnar is powerful enough to “powerbomb” someone hard enough to break the hold. If (for some reason) you havent seen the Rampage fight with Ricardo Arona where Rampage knocks him out with a powerbomb, just think what Brock could do with his strength. [/quote]
I’m sure Brock has the strenth advantage ,but Mir isn’t exactaly a skinny little weasle (how many guys have the power to snap Tim big arm). When Mir locks a sub on, there is no getting out, it’s tapout, passout or SNAP.
frank mir breaks his arm in round 1.
by that i mean frank mir wins via TKO(broken arm).
Ok, personally i think that brock is too strong to get caught in mirs submissions, similar to how ian freeman powered out of them, except brock lesnar is about 2.5x as strong as ian freeman.
i think we got to see a glimpse in to brocks bjj in his last fight, where he took him down, very quickly went to half guard then easily passed half guard. but we will see where his bjj really is.
i see Brock lesnar via Ownage.
Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.
[quote comment=”204755″]Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.[/quote]
Tank is even slower than Tim Sylvia. Nobody in MMA has Lesnar’s combination of size, strength, speed, and agility.
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.
too bad big bench presses have nothing to do with mma. lesnar and abbott are in different leagues. lenar is in much better shape. however, frank mir by submission in rd 2 or tko. too much cage exp and he looked very good against hardonk
Has no one seen the ufc 1-4? What the hell did that teach us? Ill tell you size means nothing, If brock gets cuaght in a submission, Guess what? His strength is going to fix the problem, Plus, I dont think he will be that much bigger than Mir anyways. He must of had to start some serious cardio so he probably dropped 20 pounds.
Does anybody have Mir’s last fight agaisnt Hardonk? Or konw where I can find it?
[quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Renato “Charuto” Verissimo..
[quote comment=”204775″][quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Silva even get a triangle choke around Lesnar? I say Mir goes for leg locks against Brock. Brock’s too thick for a triangle I think.[/quote]
Renato “Charuto” Verissimo..[/quote]
Speaking of which, did you see his fight with Jake Shields? How did that HAPPEN!!! Man I was sooooo disappointed. I like Jake, but man, Renato is WAY better than that.
does anyone know when crocop should be fighting next?
Mir will win this fight.
Hmmm… I feel like a deuch because I wasn’t on the UFC bandwagon to see Mir’s better days, there were better things on tv to watch (PRIDE FIGHTING) but from what I’ve seen of him in his post accident years I’m not sure what fighter we’re going to see in this fight. If he’s a 100% both mentally and physically I will have to give him an edge over Brock on sheer octagon experience; I think some one else said it well when they stated that Brock has the tools but he’s never been punched in the mouth.
I guess there is brocks first spoon feed fight. Like everyones been saying. Big brock on the juice will get every fight handed to him. Not that im on a band wagon but ive posted it before. Brock is gonna be a force in the heavyweight division and this will be a eye opener for everyone if he wins. Now no more bullcrap. When brock wins all you who run your mouth can stfu!
[quote comment=”204766″]Has no one seen the ufc 1-4? What the hell did that teach us? Ill tell you size means nothing, If brock gets cuaght in a submission, Guess what? His strength is going to fix the problem, Plus, I dont think he will be that much bigger than Mir anyways. He must of had to start some serious cardio so he probably dropped 20 pounds.[/quote]
UFC 1-4 taught us that size means nothing when one guy doesn’t know BJJ and the other does. However with some BJJ knowledge and decent submission defense, size can mean quite a lot.
Brock is an accomplished wrestler, and he’s been training in MMA for two years. I assume that’s been more BJJ than anything since he’s going to want to take the fight to the ground. Lesner may end being the heavyweight version of Sean Sherk or Matt Hughes.
Brock Lesnar can bench press at 700 IB back at the WWE and squat at 950 IB.
Actually I was surprised to find on criticalbench.com Brocks max is a mere 475lb. Still immensely strong benches are not the only test of strength.
haha, i knew this was gonna happen - mir v lesnar, mir will win in the 1st round - whoever said tat the UFC need brock to win his 1st is an idiot - do you think they wanna look after a wwe guy over their own former champ? get real, they will treat lesnar like evry other newcomer, if he doesnt perform well in his 1st fight he will simply slide down the ladder
Sorry pal, but Brock lesnar will destroy ur former shitty HW ufc champion in Round 1 via submission or by brutal strike.Brock Lesnar already future UFC HW Champ. soon!!!
[quote comment=”204712″]If this goes to the scorecards, nomatter how much Mir may be ahead, he’s fucked because there is no way the UFC is going to let Brock lose a decision.
Stomp his arrogant ass, GO MIR![/quote]
and there is no way mir could ever win a decision! if it goes three round it is because brock takes him down at will and control him all night long..
I hope he doesnt just blanket everyone. I dont know why everyone is so excited about this guy coming, I personally see boredom in our future.
I swear to god if lesnar is a “lay and pray” guy Im gonna shoot myself.
Hope Lesnar is getting getting his bandwagon ready, cuz if he wins everyone will be on it.
Guys….. Ill give you the fact that Mir looked out of shape when he came back, but Mir is totally a top contender. He will prove it in this fight. Maybe he came back too early and he payed for it but jesus…… the dude was crazy in his last match. Hes totally gonna dismantle Lesnar. Lesnar I dont think has a chance and Mir is gonna wipe the mat with him. Im seriously going to put money on Mir. Guaranteed money.
I have to agree with those people out there,YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL INSANE BROCK LESNAR IS.I’ll put my bucks on Brock on that one.He’s a 4xNCAA champion and was rank no1 in the world last time i checked.Furthermore Frank Mir win over Tim Sylvia was an armbar victory and i saw that fight i’m telling Tim could have kill Mir if the fight had continue so,Mir didn’t deserve the victory and the HW UFC belt AT ALL.
Well watching the Lesnar fight on the net.
He is just intense…
The man when he passed guard just kept firing the mitts in, and they were solid punches everyone of em.
It will be a great fight but it wont go past 1st round unless mir runs or lesnar gets tired after 4 1/2 minutes of pounding relentlessly.
I dont think arlovski vs Lesnar would be as good a fight right now, arlovski is a big name with lots to lose. Where both these guys will gain 2-3X the “Image Points” if they can pull it off. Think Gonzaga and Cro-cop match. GG got the title fight cause of the highlight reel ko. This fight will put the winner way above cro-cop(3rd tier) but below gonzaga(1st Tier). The loser will be still even regarded higher than Cro-cop unless its a 15 second fight.
The big money goes on Lesnar. Via KO on the ground at 1minute 45 seconds. Takedown (Lesnar), Armbar attempt (Mir), Escape and Mir Turtles. Lesnar gets back and caves in both sides of mirs head. There really is no way to “Cushion or block his shots on the ground” he will just beat you with your own gloves.
We shall see…
BJJ is an art that is made to fight off this kind of strength(Lesner). If Mir does not gas(Lesnar will not gas) he should be able to finess a submission in on Lesnar. Two years of MMA training doesnt compare to Mir’s career of training and being in the big show. Lesnar has a good chance a good chance at slipping up, not keeping hands on chest, leaving an arm in coming out of guard(Is he stong enoughto slam his way out of an arm. finness vs. Brawn….I bet Finess..
[quote comment=”204826″]Sorry pal, but Brock lesnar will destroy ur former shitty HW ufc champion in Round 1 via submission or by brutal strike.Brock Lesnar already future UFC HW Champ. soon!!![/quote]
hahahaaa - check this guy ‘brocky’ out - a hardcore WWE fan who thinks he knows all about MMA now lesnar is in the UFC - punk, shut your face - Mir wasnt a shitty champ, he grabs a limb and it comes off, its as simple as that - dont even think just cuz lesnar is strong hes gonna win - mir is a huge HW, hes got plenty of muscle to do damage in a grapple. oh an by the way ‘brocky’ their is no script in the UFC so dont be suprised if Mir wins in 60 seconds
Mir does not want to put Brock in a Triangle choke..The guy is way too big..way too strong..I think he needs a top position..GnP..rear naked..or heel hooks.
These stupid athletes havn’t learned how to ride a motorcycle. Ben Rothlisberger and Frank Mir both in major accidents that could have ended their careers.
This almost a lose lose fight for Mir. If he wins, he’s just beating that pro-wrestler guy which is what an experienced MMA fighter is expected to do, and if he loses, then He’s knocked out of any serious title contention… Still, I am very psyched about this match up.
When I think about it further, Frank Mir’s best chance to win will be within the first 2 and a half minutes. It is at this point he should hope to either take the fight to the ground or get taken to the ground by Brock Lesnar. During this stage, Lesnar will not have broken a good sweat at thus will be susceptible to an ankle lock or arm bar. Still so, Lesnar’s limbs are very freakishly large for a guy his size. It will be slightly difficult for Mir to submit him, much like it is difficult for numerous 155ers to try and submit Sean Sherk.
I don’t want to be a guy who jumps on the circus show ban wagon, but the further the fight goes i.e. mid 2nd round, the worse I see it going for Frank Mir. Brock has a good wretling background and his sheer mass of a body and be too much for a third tier guy like Frank Mir to handle.
Prediction
Brock Lesnar end of round 1 ref stoppage
What’s Brock going to do now that the Writers Guild is on strike?
[quote comment=”204806″]Lesner may end being the heavyweight version of Sean Sherk or Matt Hughes.[/quote]
Incredibly boring and all roided up?(in Sherk’s case at least)
Brock is going to be submitted in Rd 1 via Armbar. Another big wrestler. “he’s too strong to be submitted! He’ll drop a choke slam on him! Brock is too strong!” *yawn*
Brock could win, but I doubt he has the ground game to handle Mir’s subs yet. I’ll laugh if he gets a broken arm like Bitch Tits did.
[quote comment=”204886″]This almost a lose lose fight for Mir. If he wins, he’s just beating that pro-wrestler guy which is what an experienced MMA fighter is expected to do, and if he loses, then He’s knocked out of any serious title contention… Still, I am very psyched about this match up.[/quote]
If he wins it will be a huge win for all the MMA fighters. It will prove that not everyone with musclee and wrestling ability could just walk in and compete with the best there is.
[quote post=”3790″]I swear to god if lesnar is a “lay and pray” guy Im gonna shoot myself. [/quote]
lesnar seemed to pass min koosims guard very, very easily, however he may have trouble passing mirs guard, we will see.
[quote comment=”204676″]Nice Match up. Who is Andrei Arlovski going to fight then? thought it was Brock Lesnar.[/quote]
WHAT? Arlovski will not fight again until he re-signs his contract - there’s only 1 fight on it. And why in the world would you think that AA would be the perfect fight to start Brock Lesnar’s UFC career out with?
They would not match Brock up with an ‘elite’ HW for his first fight. However, they sure did match him up with a higher tier fighter than I was expecting. I think that once the fight hits the ground, that once Mir starts working his submissions, that Lesnar may very well be able to simply power his way out of most. For example, an arm bar from the guard, he would just stand and rip his arm right out of Mir’s grip. Mir has never been known for his standup, I would be really curious to see this fight stay up on the feet for at least a short period of time. Good for Lesnar calling out a former champ. Most people thought he’d be fighting the likes of Eddie Sanchez, Brad Imes, Kerry Schall, Antonio Hardonk..
[quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Interesting Jesse. But I actually think that Brocks defense to a Triangle Choke would be similar to Hughes/Newton, and Mir would get POWERBOMBED. The question is, who would end up unconcious?
[quote comment=”204868″]I have to agree with those people out there,YOU GUYS HAVE NO IDEA HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL INSANE BROCK LESNAR IS.I’ll put my bucks on Brock on that one.He’s a 4xNCAA champion and was rank no1 in the world last time i checked.Furthermore Frank Mir win over Tim Sylvia was an armbar victory and i saw that fight i’m telling Tim could have kill Mir if the fight had continue so,Mir didn’t deserve the victory and the HW UFC belt AT ALL.[/quote]
He is not a 4xNCAA champion. He won the Junior College Championship in 1998 and the NCAA in 2000.
[quote comment=”204688″]So much for slowly introducing Brock. This isn’t Frank the Champion of ‘04 but he’s still a BBJ expert and has way more experience than Lesnar. This is good because we’ll all see where his 2 years of MMA training has brought him. It takes serious cojones to step in the octagon with a former champ in your second pro fight, but it isn’t much of a surprise from to all us original Brock fans. Watch all the doubters start to back peddle from their earlier comments that he wouldn’t make it.[/quote]
I was going to say the same thing. I thought Brock was gonna start off fighting some bums first. I remember the other day someone mentioning Mir, and I thought he wouldn’t be ready for a former champ. I’ll be rooting for Lesnar for his whole career.
IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?!
meanwhile chuck DOESN’t CARE if he wins or loses he “ll get
500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn’t care oh and he’s crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can’t DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He’ll do it
if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP
Quick Question: In Mir’s first fight back, I remember him losing to Marcio Cruz, and I just double checked and it was by TKO. Does anyone remember where Cruz did most of the damage? Was it on the feet or on the ground?
In the early moments of the fight, Frank Mir shoud go for a flying heel hook. That would be crazy.
[quote comment=”204755″]Just to add to the above post. Tank Abbott dosen’t look as buff as Lesnar, yet he is probably stronger(he can bench over 600 lbs)and we seen how mir dealt with his power. Just something to think about.[/quote]
How much weight you can bench means next to nothing in MMA, which everyone was saying in the Houston Alexander thread were he lifts 450 lbs. Pure strenth plus extreme exposiveness equals tremendous power. Brock is light years more powerful than Tank Abbott in my opinion. I wonder how much Brock Lesnar can bench. GRIFFINFAN05, do you or any of the WWE fans know?
[quote comment=”204761″][quote comment=”204695″]Lesnar takedown = MIR BY TRIANGLE CHOKE[/quote]
Can anybody not named Anderson Sil