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Quoteworthy:
“The fact is, we have a lawsuit going on right now. They released me from my contract. I had one fight left. Now, we’re going to go after them for the damages and that’s why I couldn’t fight. I couldn’t fight because I was holding up to my end of the bargain with them. Then they turn around and didn’t hold up to their end of the bargain because they released me from my contract illegally, they breeched my contract, I am now open and ready to fight.”
UFC Hall of Fame inductee Ken Shamrock has some choice words for UFC President Dana White in a recent radio interview about his latest departure from the organization. He indicates that there is a pending lawsuit; however, White counters and says, “Is he in a lawsuit with the UFC? No. His attorney sent a half page letter to us, which we’re responding to right now.” White also argues that the UFC has been good to Shamrock throughout his career despite comments to the contrary from “The World’s Most Dangerous Man.”
Sidenote: EliteXC President Gary Shaw recently revealed that preliminary discussions are underway to book Ken Shamrock against his adopted brother, Frank, in the near future.
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eh the more face time the UFC gets the more the fighters want out of it. why cant we just all get along
Ouch! That is a picture perfect beat-down! And he wants one more fight…? Put Tito in with him one more time, end his career and let him live forever in the UFC hall of fame. Go home Ken!
hah. want another rematch with tito?
Well… perhaps it would give tito a chance to actually finish another fight
The only opponent Tito could actually finish is like 20 years past his prime.
ufc fighters need some “hollywood” agents so they dont have these contract issues in the future. then again the ufc fighters dont make enough to get a big name agent.
I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.
Dana should just put Ken in with Liddell and let him beat his face in again. It would be a nice “blast from the past” bout. Then Ken can finally go home.
[quote post="3770"]I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.[/quote]
He did. But he forgot about it. It about time he heads to the retirment home.
shamrock Vs Alexander ooooooooooowwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeee – heavy fight !
go on shamrock !
Put ken in with rampage,that would be fun to see the aftermath
Oh my how the mighty have fallen…
Been watching some of the first UFC fights.. Ken could fight. Ashame he couldnt stay the course.
Ken Shamrock-vs-Houston Alexander-would be awesome to see
maybe matt hamil
let him fight he is still good for a undercard he at least puts people in the seats. just dont let him fight tito decause he is just out matched put him up against some up and coming star from one of the ultimate fighter shows
[quote comment="203569"]let him fight he is still good for a undercard he at least puts people in the seats. just dont let him fight tito decause he is just out matched put him up against some up and coming star from one of the ultimate fighter shows[/quote]
i think theres a bit of a fine line for his opponents – if he fought a ulimate fighter guy i think hed run through em’ – but some one he hasnt foguht wouldnt know how to handle him – especially if he uses them leg locks that he used to be known for – shamrock is a cool cat – i wanna see him wreck someone – especially alexander
*fought*
It appears that Ken has “some personal issues/problems”. Too many blows to the head? The effects of steroids? Gambling problems? His motives are quite transparent: he has been spurned, he is probably broke, and he is trying to impress some other organization (by bad mouthing the UFC) so that they take him on, etc. How sad. I thought that he “looked lost” even during his TUF appearance, like he “had nothing left upstairs”. I’m actually starting to feel some sympathy for Dana. IMO Dana’s retort was right on.
Furthermore, a Shamrock vs. Shamrock fight would be bad for the sport’s credibility. I thought that Ken has already downplayed the probability of such an event. Elite XC must really be super desperate to contemplate such a “sideshow”. BTW, if it wasn’t for Dana, Shaw wouldn’t even be delving into the MMA field. Is Shaw trying to help MMA get regulated by investing money into lobbying efforts and such? Of course not, he’s just trying to “ride the wave” and the UFC’s coattails (on a part-time basis as well I might add since he is still fully immersed in promoting boxing).
IMO the UFC needs to get people like Chuck, GSP, and Franklin to start offering Dana and the UFC some vocal support. Lorenzo Fertitta needs to play more of an active role in the company. The UFC needs someone to help and counterbalance Dana (who by the way along with Lorenzo did a nice and professional press conference on Tuesday).
With respect to Couture, I hope that Dana has talked to him since Tuesday and they’ve started to smooth things over. Apparently Bas Rutten is going to interview him today – let’s hope that he returns to the old Randy and starts showing some class again.
Gee I thought Ken openly retired in front of the whole world. now he is sueing because he did not get to fight his last fight??! like c-war said put him in with Lidell or another top guy…..some lessions are learned the hard way
hes retired! that means he gave up fighting! go sit down ken!
[quote comment="203465"][quote post="3770"]I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.[/quote]
He did. But he forgot about it. It about time he heads to the retirment home.[/quote]
He didn’t retire. Joe Rogan asked him if he wanted to and Frank gave him a vague answer but didn’t directly say he was retiring.
*ken
If I ran the UFC he would have either fought
Bonnar or someone else with one fight left on thier contract.
Can I ask why they dont do Tournament fights anymore only make each fight a one round er.
8 fighters
Quarters/Semis/Championship
4 rounds/2 rounds/3 rounds = 11 rounds
thats the equivelant of 5/6 bouts. Do two of them up and you have an event.
The champ wouldnt have fought anymore than a total of 5 rounds. Wouldnt that make it reasonable???
That seems like a solution to things when steroid or other incidents happen.
Imagine HW
Cro-cop vs Tim Silvia
Big Nog vs Lesnar
Kongo vs Werdum
Gonzaga vs Monsoon
Ridiculous… Elephant man, you retired. YOu quit. Quit, come back, quit come back. What’s up with these old guys quitting and then coming back to start all of this sh*t?
Lookin good Elephant Man.
[quote comment="203523"]Put ken in with rampage,that would be fun to see the aftermath[/quote]
ye i dont see the fight going more than 20 seconds. ground and pound baby
[quote comment="203591"][quote comment="203523"]Put ken in with rampage,that would be fun to see the aftermath[/quote]
ye i dont see the fight going more than 20 seconds. ground and pound baby[/quote]
How about Houston Alexander?
GRACIE V. SHAMROCK? a couple old fellas in there muckin it up
KEn must have run out of money to fule his powder problem!
Rich Franklin Ken Shamrock 2 in a match weight fight. just to let ken know that he should stay retired.
[quote comment="203586"]If I ran the UFC he would have either fought
Bonnar or someone else with one fight left on thier contract.
Can I ask why they dont do Tournament fights anymore only make each fight a one round er.
8 fighters
Quarters/Semis/Championship
4 rounds/2 rounds/3 rounds = 11 rounds
thats the equivelant of 5/6 bouts. Do two of them up and you have an event.
The champ wouldnt have fought anymore than a total of 5 rounds. Wouldnt that make it reasonable???
That seems like a solution to things when steroid or other incidents happen.
Imagine HW
Cro-cop vs Tim Silvia
Big Nog vs Lesnar
Kongo vs Werdum
Gonzaga vs Monsoon[/quote]
i’d love to see tournaments again, but would the American public approve? as a fan i’d love to see these dream matchups materialize by any means necessary.
[quote comment="203411"]Ouch! That is a picture perfect beat-down! And he wants one more fight…? Put Tito in with him one more time, end his career and let him live forever in the UFC hall of fame. Go home Ken![/quote]
“If he dies, he dies”…lol…a la Rocky IV
did anyone notice the elite xc side note on bottom…Frank vs. Ken Shamrock fight is on the table. Ken can now get his ass kicked by his brother….What a joke…
[quote comment="203614"][quote comment="203586"]If I ran the UFC he would have either fought
Bonnar or someone else with one fight left on thier contract.
Can I ask why they dont do Tournament fights anymore only make each fight a one round er.
8 fighters
Quarters/Semis/Championship
4 rounds/2 rounds/3 rounds = 11 rounds
thats the equivelant of 5/6 bouts. Do two of them up and you have an event.
The champ wouldnt have fought anymore than a total of 5 rounds. Wouldnt that make it reasonable???
That seems like a solution to things when steroid or other incidents happen.
Imagine HW
Cro-cop vs Tim Silvia
Big Nog vs Lesnar
Kongo vs Werdum
Gonzaga vs Monsoon[/quote]
i’d love to see tournaments again, but would the American public approve? as a fan i’d love to see these dream matchups materialize by any means necessary.[/quote]
American gaming association will not approve. No fighters are allowed to fight more then once a night if I remember correctly. That is why the UFC took some trash when it first started. They say it is for the saftey of the fighter…But it is all about the money. Why would the gaming commision approve one night of the best guys fighting2 and 3 times, when they can make more money by splitting them up on different nights….Makes me sick the US and their uppity money driven attitude…
i say give him one more crack at tito.he wins,he saves face,he loses,no ones surprized.then he can move on.
[quote comment="203586"]
Can I ask why they dont do Tournament fights anymore only make each fight a one round er.
[/quote]having numerous good fighters on one card probably isn’t the best way to make money in the UFC’s case.
also, i don’t like the idea of the championship match going into the last minute of the 1st round with the fighters already gassed out.
i like the format now.
maybe once a year they could showcase a tournament like that.
also, 1 round each fight? i mean, c’mon. MMA scoring is tough as it is already…can you just imagine how hard it is to pick the winner of a close round. and chances are, with only one round, it’ll be pretty darn close unless there’s a stoppage of some sort.
and i dont know how many out there would want to watch a 1 round fight.
the idea of a tournament is cool…but imo it shouldnt precede the quality of fighting. in the current format, the quality of fighting is maintained.
ive been saying have a tourney again for a while
i hope that Ken wins and gets 1 more fight
He just wants attention and money he’s broke.
Jason McDonald comments on the Randy Couture situation in a blog entry at http://www.sportsnet.ca/.
He basically drives home the fact that Randy probably feels that he “outgrew his contract”, but that it seems to him that Randy is doing “pretty darn well” and that Randy was not specifically speaking out for “the little guy” per se. I’d really like to hear what people like GSP, Forrest Griffin, and Roger Huerta are thinking. IMO Randy needs to mend some fences.
Jason MacDonald is the correct spelling of his name. He is a Canadian middleweight UFC fighter.
[quote comment="203446"]I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.[/quote]
Nope he never announced a retirement. He was asked if he was going to retire & he sidestepped the question.
[quote comment="203742"][quote comment="203446"]I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.[/quote]
Nope he never announced a retirement. He was asked if he was going to retire & he sidestepped the question.[/quote]
ur wrong he DID retire but the thing is this is saying that UFC and him made an agreement and UFC didnt keep their end
Man so that’s why we didn’t get to see Tito Shamrock IV. What a bunch of crap Dana White robbed all the fans from the Tito Shamrock IV fight that we have all been dying to see.
[quote comment="203742"][quote comment="203446"]I thought Ken announced his retirement on live tv after tito ken III. Out of all proffesional sports fighters are the worst when it comes to knowing when to retire.[/quote]
Nope he never announced a retirement. He was asked if he was going to retire & he sidestepped the question.[/quote]
Yeah he definately anounced his retirement. Joe Rogan asked if this would be the last time we’d see him in the octagon and he said yes. So I guess he didnt say I retire but that sounded like a retirement anouncement to me.
Ken should be happy that the refs stopped the last 2 fights with tito or else he would of looked like a garbage pal kid once again… Give it up man… I’m sure Vince would love to have you back Ken and look at the bright side you might have a chance at getting a win….
its funny..i look at all the ufc hall of famers are not with the ufc currently..look at other sports h.o.f. are held in high regard..stll have affiliation with their league.
[quote comment="203981"]its funny..i look at all the ufc hall of famers are not with the ufc currently..look at other sports h.o.f. are held in high regard..stll have affiliation with their league.[/quote]
TRUE DAT!
When does Gracie get off suspension?? I wouldnt mind seeing UFC 85 Shamrock vs. Gracie…A BLAST FROM THE PAST!!
[quote comment="203453"]Dana should just put Ken in with Liddell and let him beat his face in again. It would be a nice “blast from the past” bout. Then Ken can finally go home.[/quote]
But the thing about mma is that you never know what will happen. If that fight were to happen, I would be $50 on Shamrock. That way if he wins, I will be the 6th richest person in the world because the odds would be about 10,000,000 to 1.
[quote comment="203571"][quote comment="203569"]let him fight he is still good for a undercard he at least puts people in the seats. just dont let him fight tito decause he is just out matched put him up against some up and coming star from one of the ultimate fighter shows[/quote]
i think theres a bit of a fine line for his opponents – if he fought a ulimate fighter guy i think hed run through em’ – but some one he hasnt foguht wouldnt know how to handle him – especially if he uses them leg locks that he used to be known for – shamrock is a cool cat – i wanna see him wreck someone – especially alexander[/quote]
What are you thinking!!!! Alexander would DESTROY Shamrock. Look at when he fought rich Franklin… did Shamrock even get a punch off im that fight? I dont think so. Alexander would run through him even easier than he did with Jardine and Sakara. Please bad matchup
[quote post="3770"]Put ken in with rampage,that would be fun to see the aftermath [/quote]
ya his odds are the same as Serra and GSP.. punchers chance.. imagin ken came back cotour style.. with a win coming out of retirment ..ken shamrock LHW champ… LMAO ha ha ha..