He can bench press “as much as 450 pounds.” That’s more than twice his body weight.
It might help explain his two devastating wins inside the Octagon in less than two minutes combined.
“The Nebraskan Assassin” will fight undefeated light heavyweight Chute Boxe-trained fighter Thiago Silva at UFC 78: “Validation” on November 17 at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.
Don’t blink … this bout could get Medieval.
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He looks Jailhouse.
He will prison rape you.
Impressive, but most running backs and line backers in the NFL bench press that. Benching weight once or twice and working out with 450 is a different thing. I’m not hating on houston but he hasn’t been tested yet, I’ll like to see how he handles being on the ground if anyone can get him there LOL
any fight with him..is a fight..no bouncing around..feeling him out..b4 you step foot in the cage..ask yourself ” am i ready to die today? “..it’s kill or be killed with a type fighter like him..Thiago will have to stay out his thai clinch…his punching range..and scramble to get him on the mat..test his endurance..I would like to see how he holds up at a high paced..pressure cooker of a fight..in the 2nd or 3rd..anybody is beatable on any given night.
Alexander vs Rampage 2008
[quote comment="202901"]any fight with him..is a fight..no bouncing around..feeling him out..b4 you step foot in the cage..ask yourself ” am i ready to die today? “..it’s kill or be killed with a type fighter like him..Thiago will have to stay out his thai clinch…his punching range..and scramble to get him on the mat..test his endurance..I would like to see how he holds up at a high paced..pressure cooker of a fight..in the 2nd or 3rd..anybody is beatable on any given night.[/quote]
I agree. I want to see how he fights after the first minute. I have a feeling he doesn’t have a well rounded game.
O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted!
Alexander doesn’t have a well rounded game or a gas tank. He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.
Houston Alexander has fight of the nite written all over it…
Yeah I don’t deny he’s strong. Probably the strongest in the division. But all that muscle requires a lot more oxygen than normal. I question whether he would have the same strength and explosiveness in the 2nd or 3rd round, if he expects to be a champ one day hes gonna have to.
Typically the guys with the larger builds only get the advantage in the early rounds, where as the fighter with the trim but well conditioned build will win out in later rounds as the strong guy looses steam.
There are very few fighters that actually have the ability to develop the extraordinary strength and have the stamina to go with it. In the UFC those people are Sherk, GSP, Hughes, Rampage, and Okami (everyone says hes really strong and Ive never seen him gas either).
Not to take anything away from Alexander, I would not want to be the one who has to wait for him to tire out.
Winner by TKO HHHHHHOOOOUUUUUSSSSSSSTTTTTOOOOONNNNN AAAAAAlLLLEEEXXXXAAANDDDEERR!!
Houston is a great fighter, but I think Keith Jardine exposed a suspect chin! I would like to see him with a banger in latter rounds!
I would love to see him in the second round also. Both of these guys are aggressive strikers so there is now way this will got the second round, but what do I know.
[quote comment="202911"]Yeah I don’t deny he’s strong. Probably the strongest in the division. But all that muscle requires a lot more oxygen than normal. I question whether he would have the same strength and explosiveness in the 2nd or 3rd round, if he expects to be a champ one day hes gonna have to.
Typically the guys with the larger builds only get the advantage in the early rounds, where as the fighter with the trim but well conditioned build will win out in later rounds as the strong guy looses steam.
There are very few fighters that actually have the ability to develop the extraordinary strength and have the stamina to go with it. In the UFC those people are Sherk, GSP, Hughes, Rampage, and Okami (everyone says hes really strong and Ive never seen him gas either).
Not to take anything away from Alexander, I would not want to be the one who has to wait for him to tire out.[/quote]
True Story
I’ll never forget watching the weigh ins prior to the Alexander/Jardine fight. Like everyone else, I had no idea who he was. The one thing I took away from watching the weigh ins was Houston Alexander is ridiculously RIPPED and he looks like a monster!!! That was what I was telling everyone the night of the PPV. And then it happened.
so what ! Tank could lift big time weights – but he never lifted any belt
[quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?
[quote comment="202908"]Alexander doesn’t have a well rounded game or a gas tank. He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.[/quote]
why do you say that ( out of curiousity)?
[quote comment="202903"]Alexander vs Rampage 2008[/quote]
That would be one hell of a fight.
I’ve never seen so much promise out of a fighter in a long time.
[quote comment="202903"]Alexander vs Rampage 2008[/quote]
Nice, but no one gonna stop Rampage reat fight though!
*Great
Alexander is stacked. I hope he continues to fight the way he has in his last two fights. If he does, he could become a fan favorite pretty quick. If he wins this fight I would like to see him take on someone in the upper tier of the 205 class. Maybe the loser of the Bisping Evens fight.
Overated????
I dont think so… I would like to see how he fights when he have somebody that can get him to the mat? He is def somebody I will be watchig in the next few months…
[quote comment="202913"]Houston is a great fighter, but I think Keith Jardine exposed a suspect chin! I would like to see him with a banger in latter rounds![/quote]
And Houston exposed that he can recover. That punch rocked him for what, 1 second?
Houston is my kind of fighter, but I want to see him face a dominate wrestler and see how he does…BJJ guys dont seem as strong taking people down as do expert wrestlers like Randy or Hughes…..just my opinion
Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition!
Couple of things…
1. A lot of posts saying “he has no ground game and he has no ground game”…. Really? How do you know? From all those fights you went too? Or because you havent seen it, so you assume its not there. Supose you are right, good for you… good guess, buts all that is, is a guess.
2. The dude is massive, his legs are huge. It doesn’t suprise me that he benches 450, but this whole “he is too big to have good cardio” shit is annoying. Randy is built like a tank, and guess what… has fucking awesome cardio. Again, people talking out their ass. They dont know, and again if he gasses out… good for you, good guess… again….
3. Got Rocked by Jardin… Didnt Forrest get KTFO by Jardin… Does Forrest have a suspect chin? I dont think so. It showed he can take a shot, get up, and crush you. Thats it, nothing more. Hell, your beloved Fedor got Rocked, got up, and the dude out, but do you say he has a suspect chin OR did you say, “look at fucking Fedor, he is awesome, he can take a fucking shot and still fucking kill you”.
Here is the deal. If you end your post in (My Opinion) that is one thing, but many of you state things as fact. Like you fucking know the dude… I dont, hell I know shit about it, I have seen 7-8 of his local fights here and I cant tell you shit about the dude. Except he knocks people out, but we all know that.
Get some facts, make a post, but dont generalize about something you know nothing about. If its an opinion, say so…
Strong yes, but the flip side of the coin is that muscular guys tend to tire early. Once thing that hasn’t been tested is Alexander’s conditioning, and if Silva can stay out of range long enough to take this fight into the later rounds, we may see Alexander gas out. Big “if”, though…Alexander will be pushing forward, and he’ll eventually land some shots. I hope Silva has good health insurance.
People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.
He reminds me of a young mike tyson, i can just see him going through whoeber they put infront of him, i have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that he will be the light heavyweight champ within 6 fights !!!
At the moment, Alexander looks unstoppable… His numbers in the ring were similar to Brandon Vera… Until he ran into a real fight…So hopefully we see a good fight that tests the 450 pound bench animal… Houston Vs Rampage is on the horizon if he keeps up the streak.
I love this guy! He’ll give Rampage a run for his money!
[quote comment="202929"][quote comment="202903"]Alexander vs Rampage 2008[/quote]
That would be one hell of a fight.
I’ve never seen so much promise out of a fighter in a long time.[/quote]
I agree with this, but after he fights Thiago, he then needs to win a top 10 in March, a top 5 in July and if he wins and should Rampage still be Champ, Houston Vs Rampage in Nov 08!
[quote comment="202949"]Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition![/quote]
He might be able to do it, 450 is a lot of weight but I’ve see guys in the gym bench over 400 its not an impossible lift and he sure looks strong enough. The way he handled his last two fights left me with the impression of extreme power, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he could bench 450.
[quote comment="202906"][quote comment="202901"]any fight with him..is a fight..no bouncing around..feeling him out..b4 you step foot in the cage..ask yourself ” am i ready to die today? “..it’s kill or be killed with a type fighter like him..Thiago will have to stay out his thai clinch…his punching range..and scramble to get him on the mat..test his endurance..I would like to see how he holds up at a high paced..pressure cooker of a fight..in the 2nd or 3rd..anybody is beatable on any given night.[/quote]
I agree. I want to see how he fights after the first minute. I have a feeling he doesn’t have a well rounded game.[/quote]
I don’t. His ground and pound is better then his stand up! He’s the real deal!
Houston looks mean, strong and violent, thats what sells fights. I would rather see 1 min of hard ass kicking than 15 min dancing and laying around. I like to see him do well and fight Liddell, Silva, and eventually Rampage. Go Houston u mean SOB.
[quote comment="202936"]Overated????
I dont think so… I would like to see how he fights when he have somebody that can get him to the mat? He is def somebody I will be watchig in the next few months…[/quote]
I think the people who are calling for him to get a title shot in 2008 are overrating him at this point. I could see him getting the Evans/Bisping winner as his next step up if he wins on the 17th. I don’t think Houston could beat Chuck, and Chuck isn’t at the very top of this division.
All that being said, I would watch Houston fight on any card, because he is exciting. He and Bonnar would be fun. It probably wouldn’t go 3 rounds, but there would definitely be some serious exchanges.
[quote post="3760"]I’ve never seen so much promise out of a fighter in a long time.[/quote]
When I hear the expression, “seen so much promise out of a fighter”, the first factor that comes to my mind is age and experience. Do keep in mind that Houston is 35 years old. Chris Horadeski (spelling) ‘The Polish Hammer’ has the most promise that I’ve seen out of a fighter in a while. The kid was 18 years old KO’ing everyone he fought. Yeah, the IFL sucks and all, but they have better fighters than most of these little organizations we never heard of. Chris will be a SERIOUS force to be reckoned with once he get a little older and rounds out his game. Tyson Griffin, Thiago Tavarez, and Dustin Hazelette are also very promising young fighters. Everyone knows about the first two guys, but not everyone know about Dustin yet. You want to talk about world class BJJ! Plus he is very tall and long for his weight class. Once he adds some standup to his game, watch out!
He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.
450 lbs. means 4 plates on each side = 405 lbs. two 10lbs on each side = 445lbs. Either they are rounding that up (still lying) to 450 or they are just plain lying. No big man ever puts a 2.5lbs on each side…2.5lbs. additions on the bench are for dudes like me. In weight training, you round up 5 lbs and you’re still lying! You either do a weight or you don’t, no rounding numbers.
In the end, who cares what he lifts, this is MMA not the Mr. O. Just ask Pete Williams about the time he fought Mark Coleman.
[quote comment="202911"]Yeah I don’t deny he’s strong. Probably the strongest in the division. But all that muscle requires a lot more oxygen than normal. I question whether he would have the same strength and explosiveness in the 2nd or 3rd round, if he expects to be a champ one day hes gonna have to.
Typically the guys with the larger builds only get the advantage in the early rounds, where as the fighter with the trim but well conditioned build will win out in later rounds as the strong guy looses steam.
There are very few fighters that actually have the ability to develop the extraordinary strength and have the stamina to go with it. In the UFC those people are Sherk, GSP, Hughes, Rampage, and Okami (everyone says hes really strong and Ive never seen him gas either).
Not to take anything away from Alexander, I would not want to be the one who has to wait for him to tire out.[/quote]
Oh and just one more fighter you guys may have heard of…
FEDOR EMELIANENKO. He’s my favorite fighter because he’s got love handles and rocks for hands.
[quote comment="202949"]Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition![/quote]
Let me guess you know this because your a POWERLIFTERCHAMP.
[quote comment="202911"]Yeah I don’t deny he’s strong. Probably the strongest in the division. But all that muscle requires a lot more oxygen than normal. I question whether he would have the same strength and explosiveness in the 2nd or 3rd round, if he expects to be a champ one day hes gonna have to.
Typically the guys with the larger builds only get the advantage in the early rounds, where as the fighter with the trim but well conditioned build will win out in later rounds as the strong guy looses steam.
There are very few fighters that actually have the ability to develop the extraordinary strength and have the stamina to go with it. In the UFC those people are Sherk, GSP, Hughes, Rampage, and Okami (everyone says hes really strong and Ive never seen him gas either).
Not to take anything away from Alexander, I would not want to be the one who has to wait for him to tire out.[/quote]
oxygen or ATP?
[quote comment="202961"]At the moment, Alexander looks unstoppable… His numbers in the ring were similar to Brandon Vera… Until he ran into a real fight…So hopefully we see a good fight that tests the 450 pound bench animal… Houston Vs Rampage is on the horizon if he keeps up the streak.[/quote]
except for the fact that if jardine fought smart alexander would have lost would have lost
[quote comment="202973"]He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.
450 lbs. means 4 plates on each side = 405 lbs.
two 10lbs on each side = 445lbs. Either they are rounding that up (still lying) to 450 or they are just plain lying. No big man ever puts a 2.5lbs on each side…2.5lbs. additions on the bench are for dudes like me. In weight training, you round up 5 lbs and you’re still lying! You either do a weight or you don’t, no rounding numbers.
In the end, who cares what he lifts, this is MMA not the Mr. O.
Just ask Pete Williams about the time he fought Mark Coleman.[/quote]
some olympic bars are 40 lbs and some are 45 lbs, sherlock, and also not everyone use’s olympic weight’s some use unconventional 50 or 100 lbs plates, open up you mind a little .
I kinda hope he gets KOed….
[quote comment="202928"][quote comment="202908"]Alexander doesn’t have a well rounded game or a gas tank. He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.[/quote]
why do you say that ( out of curiousity)?[/quote]
A couple of reasons: His striking looks toughman level. His supporters are the most annoying of TUF noobs that just want to see action. It’s been demonstrated repeatedly that strength and weight-lifting ability are overrated qualities in a fight.
[quote comment="202966"][quote comment="202906"][quote comment="202901"]any fight with him..is a fight..no bouncing around..feeling him out..b4 you step foot in the cage..ask yourself ” am i ready to die today? “..it’s kill or be killed with a type fighter like him..Thiago will have to stay out his thai clinch…his punching range..and scramble to get him on the mat..test his endurance..I would like to see how he holds up at a high paced..pressure cooker of a fight..in the 2nd or 3rd..anybody is beatable on any given night.[/quote]
I agree. I want to see how he fights after the first minute. I have a feeling he doesn’t have a well rounded game.[/quote]
I don’t. His ground and pound is better then his stand up! He’s the real deal![/quote]
My statemant doesn’t say he isn’t the “real deal”..or stand up is better or worse than his GnP..I’m classifing what type of fighter he is..what i believe takes to beat him..and what I would like to see him and his aggresive style of fighting in the later rounds..nobody is unstoppable.
And just how do you know he can’t lift 450?? Were you there when he tried? And I wonder how everyone knows he has a suspect chin. Because he got punched there once, by a Huge shot?? Thats like saying Big Tim has a suspect chin with being knocked down with 1 punch. His Chin is Solid Steel. What about when Chuck put Belfort on his ass with a punch? Does he have a suspect chin as well? He’s one of the very few who went the distance with Chuck. Maybe try saying so and so has a weak chin AFTER they have been KO’d a few times or AFTER this has been seriously exploited, not after one punch (that seemingly did NO damage)! Oh yeah….Big NOG has a “suspect head”, because he was kicked there.LOL
i respect houston, however i really think the band wagon will be destroyed after his fight with silva, silva is a gansta mofo and i think we will see an early submission by silva, watch and see
he’s a serious dude! if he wins this fight against thiago silva then he is for sure a top fighter at 205…i want to see what kind of fighter he is after his opponent survives the early storm…i don’t think silva will be as easy to put down early as his last two fights, i think he just straight up surprised the hell out of jardine and maybe was just a little too much for sakara, but silva will be prepared and he is a top class fighter himself…i’m taking silva in this one either late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd by (t)ko…
Ah men..you better recognize, all it takes is just one punch ‘on the button’ and the fight is over
[quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.
I dont think that Alexander should fight the loser of Bisping/Evans, he sould fight the winner. And maybe not even that….Maybe Forrest. I like Houston but it will take a Monster to beat him….but yeah I’d love to see his ground game, you never know, maybe That will be his strong point. Time will tell.
[quote post="3760"]TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it. [/quote]
1. He’s only had two UFC fights. He hasn’t earned a title shot at this point. If wins two or three more fights the way he won his first two then absolutely put him in with Rampage or whoever happens to be champion at the time. 2. Many people have pointed this out, particularly after Chuck was exposed when he fought and lost to two guys who are capable of standing and banging with him, unlike Tito, Babalu, etc.
[quote comment="202925"]so what ! Tank could lift big time weights – but he never lifted any belt[/quote]
No but he lifter Jardine off the ground a few times with a upper cuts.
Wow this is funny watching you fools talking smack about a guy none of you know and most of you honestly seem to fit the build of tuf newbs..no offense but say something other than what you can hear three or four times during a ppv
[quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
Are you kidding me???? Over rated!!!! He knocked out Jardine like a rag doll. Jardine then goes and beats Chuck. Is Jardine over rated? Please he might lose like everyone, but no one wants to step in the ring with this man!!!
[quote comment="203024"][quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.[/quote]
He knocked out Jardine!! Hello. Jardine knocked out Forrest and beat Liddell. What else do you want.
Silva’s best chance at winning is by his Amazing ground game, and being great all-around, not his Gangsta-izm.
alexander’s a bad man he’ll mess you up, yall keep talkin shit about him. yea!
[quote comment="202965"][quote comment="202949"]Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition![/quote]
He might be able to do it, 450 is a lot of weight but I’ve see guys in the gym bench over 400 its not an impossible lift and he sure looks strong enough. The way he handled his last two fights left me with the impression of extreme power, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he could bench 450.[/quote]
450 for his size is very good. he’s close to high level power lifting levels. I can bench 2 times my body weight and I was pumped when I accomplished this but was told that I need to bench 2.5 my body weight to just get into power lifting competitions. he has a lot of muscle but he’s not stiff with muscle like I’ve seen many guys who lift what he does. He has functional strength. Scary dude.
[quote comment="202992"][quote comment="202973"]He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.
450 lbs. means 4 plates on each side = 405 lbs.
two 10lbs on each side = 445lbs. Either they are rounding that up (still lying) to 450 or they are just plain lying. No big man ever puts a 2.5lbs on each side…2.5lbs. additions on the bench are for dudes like me. In weight training, you round up 5 lbs and you’re still lying! You either do a weight or you don’t, no rounding numbers.
In the end, who cares what he lifts, this is MMA not the Mr. O.
Just ask Pete Williams about the time he fought Mark Coleman.[/quote]
some olympic bars are 40 lbs and some are 45 lbs, sherlock, and also not everyone use’s olympic weight’s some use unconventional 50 or 100 lbs plates, open up you mind a little .[/quote]
[quote comment="203024"][quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
I COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE NATHAN. YOU CAN TELL WHO KNOWS WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT ON HERE AND WHO JUST WANTS TO POST SOMETHING TO BE SEEN
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.[/quote]
JARDINE IS NOT A POWERFUL PUNCHER? YOU MUST NOT BE TALKING ABOUT KEITH JARDINE.
ENtertaining fighter. He gets in your face and you better not blink. Full throttle striking. Close range ass kicking.
GOTTA LOVE IT !
[quote comment="202949"]Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition![/quote]
Did you just make your name POWERLIFERCHAMP just to make this post? I believe HA. I’m 6′2″ 220lbs and can bench 305 lbs, and his arms are much bigger than mine. I wouldn’t doubt that he can put up over 400lbs.
[quote comment="203024"][quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.[/quote]
I don’t know where you get your info from….and don’t wanna know. We’re talking about Jardine who is a powerful puncher, the one that out-struck Chuck Liddell. You must be thinking of the other Jardine who is a weak puncher. And I don’t know about Sakara being low-level either, give your writing some thought, O ver ra ted my @ss.
[quote comment="202896"]Impressive, but most running backs and line backers in the NFL bench press that. Benching weight once or twice and working out with 450 is a different thing. I’m not hating on houston but he hasn’t been tested yet, I’ll like to see how he handles being on the ground if anyone can get him there LOL[/quote]
What do you mean he hasn’t been tested… He bitch slapped Jardine around. Jardine is no joke… He just beat liddel and took a thrashing for the win to boot! I think What you mean, is none of his opponents have taken him deep or too the ground.
The thing about Alexander is that he has experience wrestling sharks, as is shown by his disfigured stomach. I didn’t see him actually fighting the sharks, nor has anyone told me, or documented it. I’m just assuming it because it sort of looks like it, and it’s what I want to think…which is apparently standard practice around here.
What floored me is how he just launched Sakara off of him after Sakara took him down. It was like a ragdoll. You just don’t see that kind of rage before. Plus he seems to hit harder the more he gets hit. It really seems like he’s on something.
[quote comment="202908"]Alexander doesn’t have a well rounded game or a gas tank. He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.[/quote]
If you can bench 450 lbs, I am sure you can lift a guy thats 185lbs more than a few times. Judging by his physical stature…I am sure to be that big and that cut..he knows a thing or two about conditioning.
450? That’s it? What a wuss…
Ha! Kidding!
[quote comment="202925"]so what ! Tank could lift big time weights – but he never lifted any belt[/quote]
Tank had no skill and spent most of his time most likely in the strip clubs sucking back brews.
Why is everyone acting like Houston walked around telling everyone he benches 450lbs?
Some guy wrote it in an article because HE (the writer) thought it was interesting. Stop acting like Houston is in his pre-fight interviews saying “Well Thiago Silva is strong but I bench 450 .”
Seriously the hate some of you guys have is ridiculous.
I would like to see Houstan fight Henderson in about another two wins. Houston’s knock out power matched with Hendo’s hard head would be great to see. Again, after a few more wins he could fight with Hendo. I think Houston and Thiago will be a great fight. They can both bang, Thiago is a chute boxe guy so I would think he has a good clinch game. A real exciting, if not over too quickly, fight.
[quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Dana ..is smart.. Let me wreck a few more dudes, build his profile. The more people get excited about this guy, the bigger the pay per buys. Why would Dana or any smart person do that??? Make absolutely no sence. Build him and cash in. People want excitment and most of all KO’s … Houston does both better than anyone else has lately. When People make silly conspiracy theories like this…It makes me sick. Take a business or economic course before you start making silly comments like this….Dana and his partners are not idiots.
I agree houston vs rampage would be a sick match up but it seems to me like you just dont get it, because you simply lack any understanding of business decisions and good marketing. Why make a buck when you can make 10 or more. Let the guy keep eating people until the fans beg for it. Sell at the top of the market.
Ohh I am on a rampage…excuse the grammar errors I am doing this during work hours…so i need to be quick!
How can you all say Jardine don’t have power? So how did he ko Forrest or how did he stun Chuck? What do you mean if Jardine would have fought a smart fight? Jardine got murdered. If they were to fight again the same thing would happen again. Jardine have yet to ask for a rematch. There is NO excuse, Houston is better than Jardine, yet so many “experts” tend to forgive or look over Jardine’s execution as if it did’nt happen. That fight will forever be known as one of the worse ass whippin EVER. Houston will become a household name in ‘08.
Houston is by far one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC. A technical ground game is nice to have but its not absolutely necessary.
[quote comment="202973"]He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.
450 lbs. means 4 plates on each side = 405 lbs.
two 10lbs on each side = 445lbs. Either they are rounding that up (still lying) to 450 or they are just plain lying. No big man ever puts a 2.5lbs on each side…2.5lbs. additions on the bench are for dudes like me. In weight training, you round up 5 lbs and you’re still lying! You either do a weight or you don’t, no rounding numbers.
In the end, who cares what he lifts, this is MMA not the Mr. O.
They make 2.5 lb plates for a reason. People actually do use them. I don’t know what kind of strange gym you go to where people avoid them, but I’ve seen people use them, and I have too, especially when maxing out.
Just ask Pete Williams about the time he fought Mark Coleman.[/quote]
[quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He says that because he’s an ig-nor-a-mous
Houston looks like a conehead in that picture. I keep looking at that cone, thinking it may be a skin colored skull cap or something, but that’s his real head. I want to punch it just to see if it moves.
I agree with others here with regards to wanting to know what the rest of his game is like, and what kind of endurance he has.
I’m also interested to know what his training is like. Such as cardio, flexibility, etc. To bench press 450 is impressive, so I’m always curious to know how much time athletes spend to sort of balance that muscle strength. Like does he do yoga or ballet or anything? HA! I know it sounds stupid, but when I got my boyfriend to start doing yoga with me (after MANY protests by him!) he actually grew to love it. After a while, he said he could actually tell the difference when he lifted weights. He said the yoga actually improved his strength (as well as the other obvious benefits of yoga- flexibility, balance, mental focus, etc.)
Anyway, I’m excited to watch him fight again, I want to know how well rounded he is.
[quote comment="202973"]He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.
450 lbs. means 4 plates on each side = 405 lbs.
two 10lbs on each side = 445lbs. Either they are rounding that up (still lying) to 450 or they are just plain lying. No big man ever puts a 2.5lbs on each side…2.5lbs. additions on the bench are for dudes like me. In weight training, you round up 5 lbs and you’re still lying! You either do a weight or you don’t, no rounding numbers.
In the end, who cares what he lifts, this is MMA not the Mr. O.
Just ask Pete Williams about the time he fought Mark Coleman.[/quote]
What I wrote didnt show up, my fault.
I don’t know what kinda retarded gym you go to but I’ve seen people use 2.5 lb plates all the time, especially when maxing out.
[quote comment="202969"][quote comment="202936"]Overated????
I dont think so… I would like to see how he fights when he have somebody that can get him to the mat? He is def somebody I will be watchig in the next few months…[/quote]
I think the people who are calling for him to get a title shot in 2008 are overrating him at this point. I could see him getting the Evans/Bisping winner as his next step up if he wins on the 17th. I don’t think Houston could beat Chuck, and Chuck isn’t at the very top of this division.
All that being said, I would watch Houston fight on any card, because he is exciting. He and Bonnar would be fun. It probably wouldn’t go 3 rounds, but there would definitely be some serious exchanges.[/quote]
I agree that guys need to work their way to the top, but if this guy keeps destroying opponents like he has, put him up against the champ. Ill bet money Rampage is at least wondering if he could be Houston. In regards to the comment about not being able to beat Chuck, well the way Houston has fought in the last two fights, and the way Chuck has fought, its a no brainer that Houston would probably beat Chuck.
He’s going to kill Silva. Oh and by the way, there is absolutely no way Bisping beats Rashad. Not a freaking chance.
[quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Ill anwser that:
1) Dana doesnt give Noobz title shots man. The guy has had 2 UFC fights. Thats not enough to prove your self in the UFC especially in the LHW division.
2) WTF !! You ever watch any of chucks PRIDE FC fights? He has been taken down, he has a great guard and good sweeps. We hardly see him on the ground b/c like you already said, great takedown defence..
[quote comment="203087"][quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Dana ..is smart.. Let me wreck a few more dudes, build his profile. The more people get excited about this guy, the bigger the pay per buys. Why would Dana or any smart person do that??? Make absolutely no sence. Build him and cash in. People want excitment and most of all KO’s … Houston does both better than anyone else has lately. When People make silly conspiracy theories like this…It makes me sick. Take a business or economic course before you start making silly comments like this….Dana and his partners are not idiots.
I agree houston vs rampage would be a sick match up but it seems to me like you just dont get it, because you simply lack any understanding of business decisions and good marketing. Why make a buck when you can make 10 or more. Let the guy keep eating people until the fans beg for it. Sell at the top of the market.[/quote]
I have a degree in Marketing (University of MN, Carlson School of Mang. Class of ‘04) and I am in law school right now. Its called capitalizing asset equity, specifically, Alexander’s popularity. This momentum could subside if he gets knocked or injured. I don’t think Alexander has the skill set to be a champion, thus you should maximize your “Alexander” equity by making sure you put him in the ring with a big name before his momentum subsides.
It doesn’t have to be his next fight, it could be in 6 fights. I was speaking in the hypothetical regarding the Alexander v. Houston fight. All I was trying to do was to spark discourse. Nothing I wrote even suggested a conspiracy theory. Stick with the facts and don’t put words in my mouth.
First rule in business, satisfy consumer wants and needs. MMA fans want great fighters fighting other great fighters, not waiting for a fighter to washed up until he gets the fight he will probably deserve.
[quote comment="203129"]He’s going to kill Silva. Oh and by the way, there is absolutely no way Bisping beats Rashad. Not a freaking chance.[/quote]
..well if the same judges are there from his last fight..you never no..he’ll survive 3rounds..and stay undefeated.
The only people I’ve seen bench 400 is the huge round older guys with short stubby arms. They heave it off the bench and then bounce it once or twice off their massive barrel chest. The bar moves down and up a total of about 3 1/2 inches. Then they proudly walk away as if it meant something and their football buddies give him high fives. 450 is a lot for a light heavyweight of that build. I’m not gym rat, but I’ve never seen a cut guy like that heave that much weight. Again it doesn’t mean everything, but surely it means something.
Benching twice his body weight?………….RRROOOOOOIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS!!!
lol
[quote comment="203017"]he’s a serious dude! if he wins this fight against thiago silva then he is for sure a top fighter at 205…i want to see what kind of fighter he is after his opponent survives the early storm…i don’t think silva will be as easy to put down early as his last two fights, i think he just straight up surprised the hell out of jardine and maybe was just a little too much for sakara, but silva will be prepared and he is a top class fighter himself…i’m taking silva in this one either late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd by (t)ko…[/quote]
Really Spida? You see the fight going that far? I don’t. I see this fight ending in the first round.
Thiago has finished 7 of his fights in the first round, and 3 of them in the 2nd, only 1 decision. HOWEVER, in his first 4 mma fights came his decision win and 2 of his 2nd round wins. His last fight ended by 2nd round TKO. Prior to that, he was on a 6 fight 1st Round Knock Out streek. Now THAT’s impressive! This dude is for real and Houston is a straight up badass. Now lets just wait and see who will prevail. At this point, it is very difficult for me to pick against either of these fighters. I have not seen many of Thiago Silva’s fights, I would really like to see how he takes a big punch, because you know he’s going to when he fights Houston. I am quite sure that Thiago is much more well rounded, even a more well rounded striker. But, Houston will always have that terrifying KO power. I believe that this fight will end in the first round, with some crazy kind of ending where both guys are hurt, sort of like a Pete Sell/Scott Smith ending, but not exactly.
I’m sure he’s strong, but if a fighter never did a bench press in his life, he’d be alright. It does add some strength to punching power, but not as much as shoulder exercises do. Its really only good for pushing people straight back if you’re backed up against a wall, which would be a mistake anyway in a fight.
But yeah, he looks pretty damn strong anyway. He probably knows that bench press isn’t as great as it is cut out to be, but that gives the average person more of an idea of how strong he is. I wish they said how much he could clean&press or something.
i predict that if Houston Alexander wins in 2 weeks, he will fight the winner of the Liddell/Silva fight. winner of that fight gets title shot. anyone agree?
That dude is violent!
is there any relation to bad news brown (wwf old school)
[quote comment="202942"][quote comment="202913"]Houston is a great fighter, but I think Keith Jardine exposed a suspect chin! I would like to see him with a banger in latter rounds![/quote]
And Houston exposed that he can recover. That punch rocked him for what, 1 second?[/quote]
EXACTLY… God I don’t know why anyone says his chin is “suspect,” he takes a good shot right on the button and it barely slowed him down. What do you want from the guy?! A “no sell” like in pro rasslin’? LOL
Dude isnt a fighter… he is a flat out BRAWLER. He just mauls until you dont move anymore, or he gets pulled off. Animal man..
[quote comment="202903"]Alexander vs Rampage 2008[/quote]
I LIKE THAT
[quote comment="203159"]i predict that if Houston Alexander wins in 2 weeks, he will fight the winner of the Liddell/Silva fight. winner of that fight gets title shot. anyone agree?[/quote]
I disagree. After losing to Rampage, Dana said that Chuck was 2 wins from another shot at the title. Since then, he lost to Jardine, which could only move him further from a title shot, not closer. If Chuck were to have beaten Jardine, then it would make sense, because Houston/Liddell would be Chuck’s 2nd fight after losing to Rampage – so if Chuck was to win against Houston, that would be the 2 wins he needed for a shot at the title.
[quote comment="203175"]That dude is violent![/quote]
Excellent adjective!
[quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
HATER
[quote comment="202965"][quote comment="202949"]Houston Alexander is full of SH*T, no doubt he’s an intense fighter, but he doesn’t bench 450 free-weight pounds. He probably does this on hammer strength or the smith machine. Many powerlifters at that weight train heavy for years and barely bench that RAW(means no bench shirt). I love watching Houston fight, but he would get his ass handed to him in a powerlifting competition![/quote]
He might be able to do it, 450 is a lot of weight but I’ve see guys in the gym bench over 400 its not an impossible lift and he sure looks strong enough. The way he handled his last two fights left me with the impression of extreme power, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he could bench 450.[/quote]
I WOULD’NT BE SURPRIZED IF HE CAN BENCH THAT.SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE RETARD STRENTH AND DAMN GOOD GENETICS.IT VERY POSSIBLE.I DONT UNDERSTAND ALL YOU HATERS.I PERSONALLY LIKE HIM.TRUE,WE DONT KNOW ALOT BOUT THE DUDE,BUT FOR SURE,HE HAS HAD TWO AWESOME FIGHTS WITH TWO WELL KNOWN FIGHTERS AND BEAT THE BRAKES OFF OF BOTH OF THEM.THAT’S WHAT SELLS TICKETS AND PPVS TO THE NORMAL FAN.
[quote comment="203104"]Houston looks like a conehead in that picture. I keep looking at that cone, thinking it may be a skin colored skull cap or something, but that’s his real head. I want to punch it just to see if it moves.[/quote]
You are right, I just scrolled up. That’s hillarious. I think Houston actually has a two foot fro that he hides under the rubber bald man mask. That way he is able to cushion his head when he gets hit.
OR he protects his Jerry Curls while taking a shower, but this time prior to weigh ins, he forgot to take his shower cap off.
Houston Alexander = Next UFC Light Heavy Weight Champion
[quote comment="203225"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
HATER[/quote]
No hating here, just tired of all the nut huggers. You all said the same about Brandon Vera then look what happened. He’s an entertaining one dimensional fighter. He’s not top ten, probably not top 20.
Thats alot of weight don’t get me wrong, but i was expecting something crazy. A kid in my high school was benching 400 in his junior year (which was the school record at the time). I remember Hughes or someone saying Robbie Lawler can put up 400. I don’t see the big deal here.
[quote comment="203253"]Houston Alexander = Next UFC Light Heavy Weight Champion[/quote]
Yep, I think this guy is the only lwh (besides Wandy) that can beat Rampage.
[quote comment="203137"][quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Ill anwser that:
1) Dana doesnt give Noobz title shots man. The guy has had 2 UFC fights. Thats not enough to prove your self in the UFC especially in the LHW division.
2) WTF !! You ever watch any of chucks PRIDE FC fights? He has been taken down, he has a great guard and good sweeps. We hardly see him on the ground b/c like you already said, great takedown defence..[/quote]
Liddell has fought twice in PRIDE. Once to Guy metzer, and the other against Rampage. I hope that you aren’t trying to argue that Liddell displayed any ground game in either of these fights.
Rampage v. Liddell was a two round Bushido rules fight and Liddell spent the majority of the fight trying not to get his knocked out. The fight never went to the ground for a length of time that would have allowed either fighter to show a semblence of a ground game.
He knocked Metzger out. What more do I have to say?
[quote comment="203257"][quote comment="203225"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
HATER[/quote]
No hating here, just tired of all the nut huggers. You all said the same about Brandon Vera then look what happened. He’s an entertaining one dimensional fighter. He’s not top ten, probably not top 20.[/quote]
vera did’nt knock off tow big names in less than two min.what exactly happen to vera.he fought a dude twice his size and former champ.and went the distance to lose a decision.nobody made a highlight reel of him.
1st round KO and i will see it in person
I don’t know what people are talking about with regards to his weight lifting. Yeah he can bench 450 pounds but people are going yeah sure once. Well of course he can only do it once but I’ve also read about his weights routine. A bit like Franklin’s I think. He does a tonne of reps.
He’s not the biggest in the division either. He was only 202 or something when he weighed in against Jardine. I would say Rampage, Tito, Forrest and a few others are bigger. I do think he could cause Rampage some trouble, he is very fast and strong in the clinch.
Benching isn’t really important in mma. I know a guy that competes and he says he doesn’t bench when doing weights because it’s not that useful. I think he does more back and snatchs, cleans, squats etc.
I reckon if Wandy caused Rampage so much trouble in the clinch then Houston could do likewise.
[quote comment="203138"][quote comment="203087"][quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Dana ..is smart.. Let me wreck a few more dudes, build his profile. The more people get excited about this guy, the bigger the pay per buys. Why would Dana or any smart person do that??? Make absolutely no sence. Build him and cash in. People want excitment and most of all KO’s … Houston does both better than anyone else has lately. When People make silly conspiracy theories like this…It makes me sick. Take a business or economic course before you start making silly comments like this….Dana and his partners are not idiots.
I agree houston vs rampage would be a sick match up but it seems to me like you just dont get it, because you simply lack any understanding of business decisions and good marketing. Why make a buck when you can make 10 or more. Let the guy keep eating people until the fans beg for it. Sell at the top of the market.[/quote]
I have a degree in Marketing (University of MN, Carlson School of Mang. Class of ‘04) and I am in law school right now. Its called capitalizing asset equity, specifically, Alexander’s popularity. This momentum could subside if he gets knocked or injured. I don’t think Alexander has the skill set to be a champion, thus you should maximize your “Alexander” equity by making sure you put him in the ring with a big name before his momentum subsides.
It doesn’t have to be his next fight, it could be in 6 fights. I was speaking in the hypothetical regarding the Alexander v. Houston fight. All I was trying to do was to spark discourse.
Nothing I wrote even suggested a conspiracy theory. Stick with the facts and don’t put words in my mouth.
First rule in business, satisfy consumer wants and needs. MMA fans want great fighters fighting other great fighters, not waiting for a fighter to washed up until he gets the fight he will probably deserve.[/quote]
I am glad you can recite some text from a grade 10 economics text but I disagree with you entirely. If you want to throw around credentials I am an Ivey Grad – Ranked 2nd for TOP MBA’s for Non US Schools – therefore a Top Tier Program.
Your school didn’t even make the top 30 list for MBA’s so I will take your comments with a grain of salt as your as my education is far superior to your “Second Tier Program” according to Business Weekly.
I will say this one or two more blow outs by Houston he will get a title shot.
[quote comment="203001"][quote comment="202928"][quote comment="202908"]Alexander doesn’t have a well rounded game or a gas tank. He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.[/quote]
why do you say that ( out of curiousity)?[/quote]
A couple of reasons: His striking looks toughman level. His supporters are the most annoying of TUF noobs that just want to see action. It’s been demonstrated repeatedly that strength and weight-lifting ability are overrated qualities in a fight.[/quote]
What type of fights interest you then? Is it the strike strike takedown fights or the you get on top of me and I’ll get on top of you fights…Or maybe the jab cross prance around fights are the ones that really excite you?
It’s also been demonstrated that the best division to fight in is the one that you are strongest in.. Also having the best body by definition may not be a big deal but if both fighters are equally matched skill wise then strength can and most times is the deciding factor..
[quote comment="203147"]Benching twice his body weight?………….RRROOOOOOIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS!!!
lol[/quote]
That’s the kind of thing a guy who doesn’t lift writes. I can lift 2 x my body weight, and I know a lot of peole who do. It’s not a bid deal.
Deyo may have graduated from Ivey, but he still sounds like a tool. On the other hand, the Truth’s defense of his stupid comment about Alexander vs. Rampage was even stupider. I don’t know who to support in this matchup!
[quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
answers to your questions…
he is untested at this stage… indeed he is a entertaining fighter, but until i see him in there with a good BJJ black belt and get taken down i dont have any respect for his ground game.
they havent put him in there with Rampage nor Chuck because he hasnt earnt his shot to fight them… believe me if he keeps knocking folks out, say 2-3 more opponents – he will inevitably get a title shot or a shot at one of the big guns in the division.
Thiago Silva is an awesome matchup… Silva is no f*cking joke, i will have a tonne of respect for Houston Alexander if he can knock Silva out… in any round
Man I hope some ground guy doenst come along and dissapoint us all with an easy run over of Houstan, I am hoping he is in the mix very soon. Give him somebody legit already. God.
everybody wants to see him in the second or third round. if a guy can keep nap timing folks who cares. i love knockouts!!! i hope houston slaughters silva or vice versa, i don’t give a shit. the name of the game is keep it outta judges hands. i think a knockout is the best way. houstons proven good at it.
[quote comment="202896"]Impressive, but most running backs and line backers in the NFL bench press that. Benching weight once or twice and working out with 450 is a different thing. I’m not hating on houston but he hasn’t been tested yet, I’ll like to see how he handles being on the ground if anyone can get him there LOL[/quote]
Keith Jardine and Alessio Sakara in less than 2 mins? Those are both big names in the UFC, and you say he hasnt been tested. Quit hating and give the man respect
can someone please answer me why does his stomach cave in?
please.
[quote comment="203266"][quote comment="203137"][quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Ill anwser that:
1) Dana doesnt give Noobz title shots man. The guy has had 2 UFC fights. Thats not enough to prove your self in the UFC especially in the LHW division.
2) WTF !! You ever watch any of chucks PRIDE FC fights? He has been taken down, he has a great guard and good sweeps. We hardly see him on the ground b/c like you already said, great takedown defence..[/quote]
Liddell has fought twice in PRIDE. Once to Guy metzer, and the other against Rampage. I hope that you aren’t trying to argue that Liddell displayed any ground game in either of these fights.
Rampage v. Liddell was a two round Bushido rules fight and Liddell spent the majority of the fight trying not to get his knocked out. The fight never went to the ground for a length of time that would have allowed either fighter to show a semblence of a ground game.
He knocked Metzger out. What more do I have to say?[/quote]
Healso fought Alistair Overeem as well but that was a stand-up match.
[quote comment="202908"]He might be able to bench lots of weight but in MMA it’s more important to the be able to lift your opponents body weight for 15 minutes than it is to be able to bench 450 one time.[/quote]i agree that endurance is more important. but at the same time you can’t ignore maximal strength.
btw, the article never said how many reps he could do with 450lbs.
who cares how much he can bench? This is mma not power lifting!
[quote comment="203393"][quote comment="203266"][quote comment="203137"][quote comment="202959"]People speculate about Alexander never being tested, never being on the ground, or not having to passed the first couple of minutes of round 1, but what you have to remember is that the was no need to go on the ground, or deeep into the fight since Alexander had turned his opponents brains off due to Alexander’s tremendous power and speed.
Here’s what I’m saying, “A person can specualte about his MMA abilities, talk about his cardio, or talk about Alexander not having to go deep into a fight, but the truth is, HE’S NEVER HAD TO DO IT SINCE HE’S KOed BOTH OF HIS UFC OPPONENTS in devasting fashion within the first couple of minutes of Round 1.”
Is Alexander supposed to get into the octagon and say to himself, “Oh Geez, these people don’t think I very well rounded, so I guess I should try to take this guy down and slap an armbar on his ass.” HELL NO! Alexander simply can go into a fight knowing that all he has to do is connect once and the fight will most likely be over.
His opponents should key on the fact that he hasn’t shown any ground game or any motivation to go to the ground, and ultimately try and take him down.
The really questions lie with the UFC management not getting Alexander into a fight where he is challenged to do something other than concuss his opponent.
TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesn’t Dana White put him in their with Rampage?
2. Why hasn’t anyone pointed out the fact that Chuck Liddel has nothing but stand up game and a good sprawl? Chuck is the UFC fundamentalist’s golden boy. I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Ill anwser that:
1) Dana doesnt give Noobz title shots man. The guy has had 2 UFC fights. Thats not enough to prove your self in the UFC especially in the LHW division.
2) WTF !! You ever watch any of chucks PRIDE FC fights? He has been taken down, he has a great guard and good sweeps. We hardly see him on the ground b/c like you already said, great takedown defence..[/quote]
Liddell has fought twice in PRIDE. Once to Guy metzer, and the other against Rampage. I hope that you aren’t trying to argue that Liddell displayed any ground game in either of these fights.
Rampage v. Liddell was a two round Bushido rules fight and Liddell spent the majority of the fight trying not to get his knocked out. The fight never went to the ground for a length of time that would have allowed either fighter to show a semblence of a ground game.
He knocked Metzger out. What more do I have to say?[/quote]
Healso fought Alistair Overeem as well but that was a stand-up match.[/quote]
2Shay, …, 2Shay.
[quote comment="203290"][quote comment="203147"]Benching twice his body weight?………….RRROOOOOOIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS!!!
lol[/quote]
That’s the kind of thing a guy who doesn’t lift writes. I can lift 2 x my body weight, and I know a lot of peole who do. It’s not a bid deal.[/quote]
Course you can
Care to put it on youtube? Didn’t think so
Man I feel like I’m in high school again, who really cares how much someone can bench, its probably the most over rated lift there is. Tank abbott was able to bench 600lbs and look at his record, he has more losses than wins, look at royce gracie, I doubt he could bench much more than his own body weight and look whats he’s accomplished. This is mixed martial arts and is mostly about skill and technique. Matt hughes said on his web site he can take a guy who weights 240 lbs that can out lift him badly in every lift and make him feel weak on the ground mainly because of body positioning. Core strength is much more relevant as well as exercises that help with balance like lunges and squats. Houston alexander is probably very strong everywear and has a very aggressive style of fighting but I really wonder about how well he fights someone this keeps there distance and is well rounded, only time will tell.
[quote comment="203024"][quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.[/quote]
How can you say Jardine is not powerful? He rocked Chuck… and it’s a given, that just doesn’t happen much… and he knocked Forrest out… translation= powerful.
[quote comment="203704"][quote comment="203024"][quote comment="202926"][quote comment="202907"]O ver ra ted! O ver ra ted![/quote]
why do you say that (out of curiousity)?[/quote]
He got rocked by Jardine, who is not a powerful puncher. No one has seen anything else from him except against beating a low level opponent in Sakara. Like Brandon Vera, he doesnt deserve the hype yet.[/quote]
How can you say Jardine is not powerful? He rocked Chuck… and it’s a given, that just doesn’t happen much… and he knocked Forrest out… translation= powerful.[/quote]
…And as far as overrated goes, what he’s done so far… he deserves to be talked about… he knocked out Jardine (who beat Chuck and Forrest, 2 of the toughest 205ers out there) and he won after almost getting KO’d.. you know you’re witnessing a good fighter when he’s hurt and even more dangerous.
[quote comment="202956"]Couple of things…
1. A lot of posts saying “he has no ground game and he has no ground game”…. Really? How do you know? From all those fights you went too? Or because you havent seen it, so you assume its not there.
Supose you are right, good for you… good guess, buts all that is, is a guess.
2. The dude is massive, his legs are huge.
It doesn’t suprise me that he benches 450, but this whole “he is too big to have good cardio” shit is annoying.
Randy is built like a tank, and guess what… has fucking awesome cardio.
Again, people talking out their ass.
They dont know, and again if he gasses out… good for you, good guess… again….
3. Got Rocked by Jardin… Didnt Forrest get KTFO by Jardin… Does Forrest have a suspect chin? I dont think so.
It showed he can take a shot, get up, and crush you.
Thats it, nothing more.
Hell, your beloved Fedor got Rocked, got up, and the dude out, but do you say he has a suspect chin OR did you say, “look at fucking Fedor, he is awesome, he can take a fucking shot and still fucking kill you”.
Here is the deal.
If you end your post in (My Opinion) that is one thing, but many of you state things as fact.
Like you fucking know the dude… I dont, hell I know shit about it, I have seen 7-8 of his local fights here and I cant tell you shit about the dude.
Except he knocks people out, but we all know that.
Get some facts, make a post, but dont generalize about something you know nothing about.
If its an opinion, say so…[/quote]
There are some clips of him fighting on youtube. One especially where he was mounted, then were stood up and he would not return to the fight becuase of claims that his opponent was greased up. that fight was indicative of a poor ground game. And everyone know when ppl post things here, unless you created the STORY that the comments are just ppls opinion, so try not to get too worked up about it
[quote comment="203588"][quote comment="203290"][quote comment="203147"]Benching twice his body weight?………….RRROOOOOOIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSS!!!
lol[/quote]
That’s the kind of thing a guy who doesn’t lift writes. I can lift 2 x my body weight, and I know a lot of peole who do. It’s not a bid deal.[/quote]
Course you can
Care to put it on youtube? Didn’t think so[/quote]
Yea what a big joke that guy is. It is somewhat of a big deal. Not many people can double there weight. IDIOT !!!!!!
I don’t know if he can bench the weight or not, but it seems irrelevant to his fighting. I don’t buy into the talk about him being so strong that he’ll gas out, or that his ground game isn’t good enough either. His last fight was on the ground twice–the first time he was on his back and got up, the second time he was on top just brutally TKOing his opponent. I’m not saying he should get a title shot or anything, but he is an extremely entertaining fighter to watch and I do look forward to seeing him fight someone who can hang with him for more than a minute.
[quote comment="203080"][quote comment="202925"]so what ! Tank could lift big time weights – but he never lifted any belt[/quote]
Tank had no skill and spent most of his time most likely in the strip clubs sucking back brews.[/quote]
Hey, if you have the time and the money to do so, that’s not a bad life.
[quote post="3760"]Houston is a great fighter, but I think Keith Jardine exposed a suspect chin! I would like to see him with a banger in latter rounds! [/quote]
As hard as Jardine hits and as fast as he recovered, I don’t know if you can call that a suspect chin. His cardio does seem suspect though, he was breathing real hard after only 1 minute.
[quote post="3760"]He’s put on great fights and I can’t wait to see him at 78, his fights are a pleasure to watch.
In regards to 450 lbs on the bench, I can prove that he’s lying. Ask yourself if you’ve ever seen a big guy push weight on the bench with a 2.5 lbs. on each side?? It doesn’t happen.[/quote]
If you want to see if you can bench 450 (which sounds better than 445) you put the 2 1/2 lbs on each side , just like the BIG GUYS do in competition. In fact, I’ve heard of guys putting washers on the bar, because your strenth doesn’t increase in 10 lb increments.
[quote post="3760"]Your school didn’t even make the top 30 list for MBA’s so I will take your comments with a grain of salt as your as my education is far superior to your “Second Tier Program” according to Business Weekly. [/quote]
Way to show off your intelligence. Let’s hope you didn’t major in grammar.
i agree benching 2x body weight proves nothing. big boys gas so fast if they are all muscle. Houston looks tight/lean. i think he has more desire as he has six kids to feed lol… hes not lookin for a ferrari but to help his kids survive thanks frank – http:/houston-alexander.com
[quote comment="203012"]i respect houston, however i really think the band wagon will be destroyed after his fight with silva, silva is a gansta mofo and i think we will see an early submission by silva, watch and see[/quote]
Idiot thought I would lose? Please I have a lot of gas in the tank but if you want to find out try and fight me. In the loop you need plenty of gas toward of the A.B. Dont mess with me or this Brotha will get dirty on your ass.
Houston