I hope you have fun Mania, I know Holland will probably bore you with him trying to promote himself as the premier MMA person, but enjoy your time, and try not to fall asleep during the Bisping/Evans match.

Other than that. This card is awesome!

The Eilers/Arlovski fight was at UFC 53: Heavy Hitters.

[quote comment="202668"]The Eilers/Arlovski fight was at UFC 53: Heavy Hitters.[/quote]
Close enough. Thanks

I have been waiting for a show to happen in New Jersey, but decided not to go to this one because of the fight card. With my luck, that will prove to be a poor decision.

Having said that, I think the most interesting matchup is the Parysian vs. Chonan. I would have to give the standup advantage to Chonan, and possibly the submission game. But Parysian gets the takedown advantage.

I also hope Silva crushes Alexander. The UFC is a sport, not a shady fight club.

Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?

good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins

Is it me?.. or is this card not that thrilling?

I take that back, it’s just the main event that’s really not thrilling,,, most of the undercards look as good as many others

“Even though I’ll be in attendance it won’t stop DrubySunshine and the entire crack UFCmania team from delivering top-notch blow-by-blow, round-by-round commentary throughout the PPV telecast that starts at 10.pm. ET.”

I thouhgt it was MMAMANIA now?

The Edgar vs. Fisher fight is going to be a show stealer. It will be a war on the feet.

not really a great card, excited to see the outcome of edgar fischer fight. rooting for edgar though.

Is a good card, the UFC tried to get the LW championship belt on this card, but the sherk suspension messed it up. the main event is not that attractive, specially after bisping’s last fight, I really want Evans to destroy him.

This card is sould not be a ppv!

I found this video made right before Elite XC Uprising. It’s an interview with Joe Lauzon and I found out the guy he’s fighting at UFC 78 comes from Miletich Fighting System and is an impressive 18-0. The interview was done at BJ PENN’s GYM/Training Center in Hilo, Hawaii. Here’s the link:

http://www.bjpenn.com/learn/index.php?article_id=705&parent_id=503

PS: I’m disappointed this fight is not on the Main Card. I really hope Joe Lauzon wins. Not only do I like him as a fighter, but I want people up in the States to see that there are fighters that BJ PENN is working with that are really impressive( ie: Mike Aina who fought a hard battle with UFC and Pride veteran Nick Diaz.)

Not too excited about the main event (who is?), but the undercard looks very tasty. I’m very much looking forward to watching Alexander, Parisian and Fischer fight.

BTW, Ed Herman can kiss my a**. That turdbiscut belongs on the non-televised card, not Joe Lauzon…

The main event is resonible like it or not.
If you score the bisping vs hamill from a more technacal fight scoring bisping actually won with more striking. so whatever.

ok few things
1. this card is sick except for the main event
2. Ed Herman does not have a boring fight in him so please stop hating on him.. after he beats terrell(i hope) who is a tough test..its herman grove 2..been waiting
3. NEWGUYTHEGUN: i dont know that sort of scoring you are using…i have watched the fight 3 or 4 times and if it was in vegas hamill by unanimous.
4. Louzon on a card over herman vs.terrell lets be serious, let the kid win a fight in the UFC before hes over those guys.
5. hope bisping has to be carried out of the octagon (dont care for evans,,but seriously dont like bisping)

[quote comment="202675"]Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?[/quote]
no its ppv and if u dont get it ur gonna miss out but what am i saying im gonna be there

[quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal

[quote comment="202710"]I found this video made right before Elite XC Uprising. It’s an interview with Joe Lauzon and I found out the guy he’s fighting at UFC 78 comes from Miletich Fighting System and is an impressive 18-0. The interview was done at BJ PENN’s GYM/Training Center in Hilo, Hawaii. Here’s the link:

http://www.bjpenn.com/learn/index.php?article_id=705&parent_id=503

PS: I’m disappointed this fight is not on the Main Card. I really hope Joe Lauzon wins. Not only do I like him as a fighter, but I want people up in the States to see that there are fighters that BJ PENN is working with that are really impressive( ie: Mike Aina who fought a hard battle with UFC and Pride veteran Nick Diaz.)[/quote]

im sure that if there is enough time either the Lytle fight or the Lauzon fight will make it to PPV

[quote comment="202733"]ok few things
1. this card is sick except for the main event
2. Ed Herman does not have a boring fight in him so please stop hating on him.. after he beats terrell(i hope) who is a tough test..its herman grove 2..been waiting
3. NEWGUYTHEGUN: i dont know that sort of scoring you are using…i have watched the fight 3 or 4 times and if it was in vegas hamill by unanimous.
4. Louzon on a card over herman vs.terrell lets be serious, let the kid win a fight in the UFC before hes over those guys.
5. hope bisping has to be carried out of the octagon (dont care for evans,,but seriously dont like bisping)[/quote]

um Lauzon did win a fight in the UFC he beat Pulver

This is suprisingly a really really good card, it’s just the main event gives it a bad stamp. David Terrell is pretty good to, he should KILL Herman if there is not a crazy upset. Karo should win I think, a hard fought battle but I think he’ll get it.
Terrell looks to me like the next guy to work his way to the top for a new challenge for Anderson. I mean who else is there? I bet Terrel could make it to the 2nd round.

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal[/quote]

Sanchez was almost there, there was just the GSP, Hughes, BJ Penn and the TUF winner (Serra)… all in there ahead of Sanchez at the time. Now he’s lost a couple

I didn’t realize 78 was going to happen so soon. Forgot about Thanksgiving. It just seems like yesterday Silva gave Franklin a free nose job. Two Times! I’m excited to see Ryo Chonan vs. Karo Parisyan.

I want to see the Lytle Alves fight, i think it will be a good one.

[quote comment="202739"][quote comment="202733"]ok few things
1. this card is sick except for the main event
2. Ed Herman does not have a boring fight in him so please stop hating on him.. after he beats terrell(i hope) who is a tough test..its herman grove 2..been waiting
3. NEWGUYTHEGUN: i dont know that sort of scoring you are using…i have watched the fight 3 or 4 times and if it was in vegas hamill by unanimous.
4. Louzon on a card over herman vs.terrell lets be serious, let the kid win a fight in the UFC before hes over those guys.
5. hope bisping has to be carried out of the octagon (dont care for evans,,but seriously dont like bisping)[/quote]

um Lauzon did win a fight in the UFC he beat Pulver[/quote]

yeh whateva ‘Freestyle” stop talking too much, you dont even have the facts – Lauzon had a big win in his first match like ‘Michael’ said – and over a former champ – by KO !

i hope bisping gets his face punchasized

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal[/quote]

Your record has nothing to do with your ranking! What’s Randy Couture, 15-8? And he’s #1 in the world. Take into consideration that even though the official decisions show different, everyone knows both these fighters are coming off losses. That compared with Rampage, Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, and Griffin and you think they’re in the top 5?

[quote comment="202677"]Is it me?.. or is this card not that thrilling?[/quote]

As far as match-ups go, this card is actually great! Then again, I’m by no means a casual fan so the absence of big name draws &/or titles on the line is negligable to me. This card is showcasing some incredible fighters & world-class talents. There are definately potential future champions & top contenders peppered all over this one.

[quote comment="202696"]not really a great card, excited to see the outcome of edgar fischer fight. rooting for edgar though.[/quote]

yeah a sleeper card..to a so/so one..this fight is not good for frankie..if he beats Spencer he is still no where a shot at the belt..and we all know with these two guys..it will be a war..I’m pulling for frankie..but if the ufc had a 140-145 pound division..no question Frankie would be the champ.

I guess I will be bugging some of the guys to order it.

Karo (Dont you dare Lose)

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

It depends on the quality of fighters..if you sre 16-0 against people that are not considered to be good fighter..a ranked fighter..that alone shouldn’t put you in the top slots..ex: J-Lau is fighting Jason Reinhardt 18-0..but I never heard of him till this match up..i wouldn’t discredit his record as say his not tuf..but i wouldn’t rank in my top slots of his weight..cuz i don’t know who has he beatin.

[quote comment="202683"]“Even though I’ll be in attendance it won’t stop DrubySunshine and the entire crack UFCmania team from delivering top-notch blow-by-blow, round-by-round commentary throughout the PPV telecast that starts at 10.pm. ET.”

I thouhgt it was MMAMANIA now?[/quote]

Whoops. Still getting used to it myself!

I think there’s some good exciting fights on this card.
alexander-vs- silva is like king kong vs t rex
parisyean and chonan should be all about the mma skills
edgar and fisher all stand up
herman always exciting terrell hasn’t fought in a while but he was pretty explosive in his time
and I actually wouldn’t mind seeing the lytle-alves fight.
Every event I enjoy and I’m looking forward to this one the same.

[quote comment="202845]
Yes, the lunatics will be running the asylum. Fortunately, Jesse Holland will not be among them. I have the (dis)pleasure of catching all the action alongside him come fight night.[/quote]

Don’t be fooled folks…the only reason he’s flying to Newark is to make sure I don’t get recruited by the competition…

Bisping over Evans by way of tko…no one seems to like this guy, but I’m a huge fan. Yeah, he had a bad fight against Hamill (he did deserve the decision), but I expect to see the old, aggressive Michael Bisping this time around. Evans is a strong fighter (and Bispings toughest test since winning TUF), so this should be a war. All that being said, I won’t be surprised if Bisping gets KO’d early.

Franky Edgar versus Spencer Fischer should be the fight of the night…any time these guys fight, their exciting as hell…

Gotta go with Alexander over Silva…Alexander throws absolute bombs…can’t wait till they put him up against a LHW stud and see how he does…

Herman over Terrel via submission…where did all this hate for Herman come from…the guys been nothing but exciting since his TUF experience…

Karo’s got his fight in the bag…

Would love to see Lauzon fight…give this guy time, he’ll own the LW belt…

[quote comment="202675"]Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?[/quote]

Not a chance. $40 my friend! Even though its only worth no more than $20 in my eyes. But often times, those end up being the best events – like UFN 10 and the TUF 5 finale. But no way was I going to risk $1,000 just to find out.

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy[/quote]

So you are saying that if a fighter becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they should automatically be in the Top 5 of the division? LOLOLOL. Then why isn’t Jason Reinhardt ranked number 2 in the LW division? He is 18-0. You know why? Because you MUST consider quality of opposition. Looking at his record, I don’t know of a single person he fought. Nice spelling too, no wonder how you can come up with such logic.

Yo VM…are you on myspace?

as long as bisping gets his ass kicked i’ll be happy

Bisping-Evans is a good fight, though I don’t think it should be headlining a PPV. A Spike live event, maybe. The rest of the card, top to bottom, looks pretty solid. There should be a lot of quality fights here, even if they aren’t all huge names at this point.

[quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.

[quote comment="202883"][quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.[/quote]

cool..just checking.

[quote comment="202883"][quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.[/quote]

cool..just checking.

[quote comment="202883"][quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.[/quote]

cool..just checking.

[quote comment="202888"][quote comment="202883"][quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.[/quote]

cool..just checking.[/quote]

Sure, no prob. Actually, I only post on this site while I’m at work. I can give you an email address if you’d like, but I don’t check it all that often.

[quote comment="202715"]Not too excited about the main event (who is?), but the undercard looks very tasty. I’m very much looking forward to watching Alexander, Parisian and Fischer fight.

BTW, Ed Herman can kiss my a**. That turdbiscut belongs on the non-televised card, not Joe Lauzon…[/quote]
ed herman belongs on the undercard, but if the soul assassin fights to his potential, he may be the next worthy guy to get destroyed by the spider

[quote comment="202857"]Bisping over Evans by way of tko…no one seems to like this guy, but I’m a huge fan. Yeah, he had a bad fight against Hamill (he did deserve the decision), but I expect to see the old, aggressive Michael Bisping this time around. Evans is a strong fighter (and Bispings toughest test since winning TUF), so this should be a war. All that being said, I won’t be surprised if Bisping gets KO’d early.

Franky Edgar versus Spencer Fischer should be the fight of the night…any time these guys fight, their exciting as hell…

Gotta go with Alexander over Silva…Alexander throws absolute bombs…can’t wait till they put him up against a LHW stud and see how he does…

Herman over Terrel via submission…where did all this hate for Herman come from…the guys been nothing but exciting since his TUF experience…

Karo’s got his fight in the bag…

Would love to see Lauzon fight…give this guy time, he’ll own the LW belt…[/quote]
you think herman will sub terrell??? you are funny

[quote comment="202891"][quote comment="202888"][quote comment="202883"][quote comment="202874"]Yo VM…are you on myspace?[/quote]

Nope, I’m not.[/quote]

cool..just checking.[/quote]

Sure, no prob. Actually, I only post on this site while I’m at work. I can give you an email address if you’d like, but I don’t check it all that often.[/quote]

that would be cool..I only post here..but I’m using myspace for info..with my bjj/mma commrades i train here in nyc..it keeps me in tune to local underground mma news too.

I wonder if Gono will have a normal entrance from now on?

Personally I like this fight card, would be nice to see a title match, but I think the card makes for some exciting fights. Also I really like Bisping as a fighter, but I like Evans too. I hope Bisping wins but I won’t be disapointed if Rashad takes it. Should be a good night!!

[quote comment="202916"]I wonder if Gono will have a normal entrance from now on?[/quote]

LOL, I was wondering the same thing last week, and thought to myself that I’ll need to comment on that, but it slipped my mind. His entrance will, of course, be nothing compared to his entrance in PRIDE, but I expect him to still do something. He is amongst the prelimanary fights, so chances are it won’t be televised, so I doubt the UFC would dump money into his entrance. For those that don’t know, Gono’s entrances were often times longer than the fights themselves and looked similar to what I’d imagine a Michael Jackson concert to be like back in the day.

For me the main event is a lose lose situation, but if I had to pick one I cant’t stand the most it would be Bisping. I hope he gets DESTROYED

I won’t buy this event!

this is a great event (apart from the main)

i dont get why karo has to fight chonan though…

who has he lost to? sanchez and george?

he deserves kos or fitch

[quote comment="202994"]this is a great event (apart from the main)

i dont get why karo has to fight chonan though…

who has he lost to? sanchez and george?

he deserves kos or fitch[/quote]
Chonan has a submission win over Anderson Silva. This dude is no joke.

[quote comment="202857"]
Karo’s got his fight in the bag…
[/quote]

I’ve always liked to watch Karo’s fights, but I admit I don’t know of or can’t remember seeing a Chonan fight.

Interesting that Karo is listed first on the card, implying that Chonan is the more prestigious fighter.

I guess I’ll have to research him a little more

[quote comment="202876"]as long as bisping gets his ass kicked i’ll be happy[/quote]

I don’t see how anything else could be possible – save the lucky punch.

My impression of Bisbing has been one of a second tier fighter. The biggest name he’s fought in my opinion has been Elvis.

Though I’m not a huge fan of Evans, I think he’s a full grade above “The Count” – and I see nothing but a long beating or a quick and devestating ending.

Though I sincerally hope he’s not permanently injured – I think this mismatch is whooping-to-be

[quote comment="203070"][quote comment="202857"]
Karo’s got his fight in the bag…
[/quote]

I’ve always liked to watch Karo’s fights, but I admit I don’t know of or can’t remember seeing a Chonan fight.

Interesting that Karo is listed first on the card, implying that Chonan is the more prestigious fighter.

I guess I’ll have to research him a little more[/quote]

“flying heel hook..he caught anderson silva with.”

[quote comment="203015"][quote comment="202994"]this is a great event (apart from the main)

i dont get why karo has to fight chonan though…

who has he lost to? sanchez and george?

he deserves kos or fitch[/quote]
Chonan has a submission win over Anderson Silva. This dude is no joke.[/quote]
i guess…

he only really loses against top competition, but cmon, that sub on anderson was (although sick) pretty lucky…

be interested to see if chonan makes weight. asian dudes dont usually like to cut

Who runs this site?? Has he even seen UFC 53? Arlovski didnt drop Eilers in RD.1 like you said, Eilers knee blew out, jesus the innacuracies are ridiculous! lol

i predict that if Houston Alexander wins in 2 weeks, he will fight the winner of the Liddell/Silva fight. winner of that fight gets title shot. anyone agree?

[quote comment="202754"][quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal[/quote]

Sanchez was almost there, there was just the GSP, Hughes, BJ Penn and the TUF winner (Serra)… all in there ahead of Sanchez at the time. Now he’s lost a couple[/quote]
but sanchez was what 19-0 20-0 dont u think that deserved a title shot

[quote comment="202827"][quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal[/quote]

Your record has nothing to do with your ranking! What’s Randy Couture, 15-8? And he’s #1 in the world. Take into consideration that even though the official decisions show different, everyone knows both these fighters are coming off losses. That compared with Rampage, Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, and Griffin and you think they’re in the top 5?[/quote]
i would say Iceman isnt in the top 5 anymore esp after 2 big losses

[quote comment="202867"][quote comment="202675"]Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?[/quote]

Not a chance. $40 my friend! Even though its only worth no more than $20 in my eyes. But often times, those end up being the best events – like UFN 10 and the TUF 5 finale. But no way was I going to risk $1,000 just to find out.

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy[/quote]

So you are saying that if a fighter becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they should automatically be in the Top 5 of the division? LOLOLOL. Then why isn’t Jason Reinhardt ranked number 2 in the LW division? He is 18-0. You know why? Because you MUST consider quality of opposition. Looking at his record, I don’t know of a single person he fought. Nice spelling too, no wonder how you can come up with such logic.[/quote]

but isnt this Reinharts 1st UFC match Bis and Evans r what 5-0 6-0 in the UFC

[quote comment="203140"]Who runs this site?? Has he even seen UFC 53? Arlovski didnt drop Eilers in RD.1 like you said, Eilers knee blew out, jesus the innacuracies are ridiculous! lol[/quote]

u can say the same thing about thsi season of TUF that 1 guy of Hughes team blew his knee out but technically it still counts as a KO or TKO

[quote comment="203164"]i predict that if Houston Alexander wins in 2 weeks, he will fight the winner of the Liddell/Silva fight. winner of that fight gets title shot. anyone agree?[/quote]

i dont because Dana said the winner of that fight gets into the top 10 not top 5

Mania, Jesse, Guys getting together before the fight?
Jesse, Taking the train up?

Is this dude talking to himself?

[quote comment="203179"][quote comment="202867"][quote comment="202675"]Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?[/quote]

Not a chance. $40 my friend! Even though its only worth no more than $20 in my eyes. But often times, those end up being the best events – like UFN 10 and the TUF 5 finale. But no way was I going to risk $1,000 just to find out.

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy[/quote]

So you are saying that if a fighter becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they should automatically be in the Top 5 of the division? LOLOLOL. Then why isn’t Jason Reinhardt ranked number 2 in the LW division? He is 18-0. You know why? Because you MUST consider quality of opposition. Looking at his record, I don’t know of a single person he fought. Nice spelling too, no wonder how you can come up with such logic.[/quote]

but isnt this Reinharts 1st UFC match Bis and Evans r what 5-0 6-0 in the UFC[/quote]

Bisping is 4-0 in the UFC. 3-1 if you ask me, but whatever, that’s another story. His opponents – not exactly top-tier.

1) Josh Haynes
2) Eric Schafer
3) Elvis Sinosic
4) Matt Hamill

Any of those 4 fighters can KO Fedor and still not be considered Top 5 in any division. If I had to name the 2 worst fighters in the UFC LHW division, I would answer with Josh Haynes and Elvis Sinosic. Ravishing Red is 1-2 in the UFC and I will say that I think he sucks until the day one of us dies. At the rate our 2 careers are going, I’d predict that he will die before me. Matt Hamill. I will not say anything bad amount Matt because I like everything I have seen from the kid since TUF. But Bisping did not WIN that fight. Maybe he didn’t lose, but he did not win. Has any popular fighter ever lost so many fans after a win? For Hamill, has any fighter gained so many fans after a loss?

Records mean NOTHING without considering the COMPETITION!

dont [quote comment="203237"][quote comment="203179"][quote comment="202867"][quote comment="202675"]Anyone heard if this one will be on Spike instead of PPV?[/quote]

Not a chance. $40 my friend! Even though its only worth no more than $20 in my eyes. But often times, those end up being the best events – like UFN 10 and the TUF 5 finale. But no way was I going to risk $1,000 just to find out.

[quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy[/quote]

So you are saying that if a fighter becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they should automatically be in the Top 5 of the division? LOLOLOL. Then why isn’t Jason Reinhardt ranked number 2 in the LW division? He is 18-0. You know why? Because you MUST consider quality of opposition. Looking at his record, I don’t know of a single person he fought. Nice spelling too, no wonder how you can come up with such logic.[/quote]

but isnt this Reinharts 1st UFC match Bis and Evans r what 5-0 6-0 in the UFC[/quote]

Bisping is 4-0 in the UFC. 3-1 if you ask me, but whatever, that’s another story. His opponents – not exactly top-tier.

1) Josh Haynes
2) Eric Schafer
3) Elvis Sinosic
4) Matt Hamill

Any of those 4 fighters can KO Fedor and still not be considered Top 5 in any division. If I had to name the 2 worst fighters in the UFC LHW division, I would answer with Josh Haynes and Elvis Sinosic. Ravishing Red is 1-2 in the UFC and I will say that I think he sucks until the day one of us dies. At the rate our 2 careers are going, I’d predict that he will die before me. Matt Hamill. I will not say anything bad amount Matt because I like everything I have seen from the kid since TUF. But Bisping did not WIN that fight. Maybe he didn’t lose, but he did not win. Has any popular fighter ever lost so many fans after a win? For Hamill, has any fighter gained so many fans after a loss?

Records mean NOTHING without considering the COMPETITION![/quote]

then i think they should pull the GSP and Franca approach and BEG got a title shot do u really think Franca deserved the shot i would say NO but he got it now Evans and Bis deserve the shot

[quote comment="203090"][quote comment="203070"][quote comment="202857"]
Karo’s got his fight in the bag…
[/quote]

I’ve always liked to watch Karo’s fights, but I admit I don’t know of or can’t remember seeing a Chonan fight.

Interesting that Karo is listed first on the card, implying that Chonan is the more prestigious fighter.

I guess I’ll have to research him a little more[/quote]

“flying heel hook..he caught anderson silva with.”[/quote]

Ah thanks, I remember that – just didn’t have the name (that was some tv kung fu magic)

[quote comment="203277"]then i think they should pull the GSP and Franca approach and BEG got a title shot do u really think Franca deserved the shot i would say NO but he got it now Evans and Bis deserve the shot[/quote]

wow, evans and bis deserve a title shot? are you kidding me? both of those fighters need at least one more victory against one of the bigger dogs in the LHW division like Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, or Griffin. they would have to get in line behind one of the legitimate contenders in the LHW division
and obviously GSP deserved a shot at the title at the time despite his plea on his hands and knees, and with franca, the LW division isnt stacked like the LHW division is, thats why he got his shot.

i second that. the winner of bisping evans will need to beat at least a top 5 lhw before challenging for the title.

which, is also why many people feel slighted by having this as the main fight on this fightcard. this may be a great fight, but it shouldnt be the main event.

rest of the card looks good. im still gonna order it.

[quote comment="203451"]

wow, evans and bis deserve a title shot? are you kidding me? both of those fighters need at least one more victory against one of the bigger dogs in the LHW division like Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, or Griffin. they would have to get in line behind one of the legitimate contenders in the LHW division
and obviously GSP deserved a shot at the title at the time despite his plea on his hands and knees, and with franca, the LW division isnt stacked like the LHW division is, thats why he got his shot.[/quote]

Hendo lost against rampage and Iceman lost 2 straight

Silva didnt even have a fight yet since his return

Griffin isnt on a big winning streak

the only 1 i can maybe see them having to fight is Dean of Mean

[quote comment="203277"]then i think they should pull the GSP and Franca approach and BEG got a title shot do u really think Franca deserved the shot i would say NO but he got it now Evans and Bis deserve the shot[/quote]

wow, evans and bis deserve a title shot? are you kidding me? both of those fighters need at least one more victory against one of the bigger dogs in the LHW division like Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, or Griffin. they would have to get in line behind one of the legitimate contenders in the LHW division
and obviously GSP deserved a shot at the title at the time despite his plea on his hands and knees, and with franca, the LW division isnt stacked like the LHW division is, thats why he got his shot.[/quote]

Hendo lost against rampage and Iceman lost 2 straight

Silva didnt even have a fight yet since his return

Griffin isnt on a big winning streak

the only 1 i can maybe see them having to fight is Dean of Mean[/quote]

OMG, you are STILL defending yourself. Just admit that you were wrong. I would LOVE to see Hendo or Wandi fight either of these two. LOL, you say that you agree with Dean of Mean, but you disagree with Griffin because he isn’t on a ‘big’ win streak. Well, in case you didn’t know, he won his last two fight. Jardine got KTFO by Houston, and won one fight since then. So you are now saying that a one fight win streak is bigger and better than a two fight win streak – LOLOLOLOL.

[quote comment="202679"]I take that back, it’s just the main event that’s really not thrilling,,, most of the undercards look as good as many others[/quote]

Yeh i think to be fair to Dana and the UFC, we are disappointed because we are used to higher standards than this (Main event) but the card is sick… Can’t wait to watch Karo / Edgar vs Fisher / and Houston vs Thiago…. WICKED

[quote comment="203164"]i predict that if Houston Alexander wins in 2 weeks, he will fight the winner of the Liddell/Silva fight. winner of that fight gets title shot. anyone agree?[/quote]

I agree!!!

I mean i’m not sure if it makes sense in temrs of rankings etc but i sure would like to see that…!!!

Only thing for me with Houston is I’d like to see him get a but more cage time before going in with the big boys! (He’s had like 2 mins total in 2 fights!!) It can ruin a fighter sometimes rising too quickly, but at his age i don’t suppose he is in the mood to wait around anyway..

….So who does QRJ fight while we are waiting for the outcome of this?

How come I don’t see any place for the live updates?

[quote comment="202806"]i hope bisping gets his face punchasized[/quote]

Im looking foward to see the packed house boo Bisping out of the building at his introduction

[quote comment="203208"]Mania, Jesse, Guys getting together before the fight?
Jesse, Taking the train up?[/quote]

I’m driving in…mass transit on a Saturday is full of creeps like Mania that I would much rather avoid…I’ll eat the parking and tolls just to be able to ride in peace…

Bisping did NOT win the fight against Hamill. Please watch the fight over. Almost all his punches landed on Hamill’s gloves and arms and the ones that did land were more like love taps. You can’t score those punches the same as you would score a power shot from Hamill that scared Bisping shitless and had him running around the octagon like a little girl.

[quote comment="212266"][quote comment="202806"]i hope bisping gets his face punchasized[/quote]

Im looking foward to see the packed house boo Bisping out of the building at his introduction[/quote]

Does anyone else think that this looks like the most boring fight card in the history of the UFC

Previous comment directed at NewGuyTheGunMan and whoever else is blind enough to think Bisping deserved the decision. Bisping is a scrub! I hope Rashad takes him out. And I don’t mean dinner and a movie!

if Rashad knocks the ‘o’ out of the Count. What would that make him:)

this card is awesome! wish lauzon’s fight was on PPV, but it’s all good.

Everyone knows that Evans beat Jardine on TUF. With the route they have both taken since then, considering the caliber of their opponents (Griffen-Liddell and Ortiz), who would win a TUF rematch? Jardine and Evans have improved, but would Evans have been able to drop Liddell and avoid getting dropped himself in that fight, or out box a focused Griffen? Likewise, would Jardine be able to survive Tito’s takedowns and ground ‘n pound attack? Who would win out of that fight, seeing as to how they’ve both evolved?

[quote post="3756"]if Rashad knocks the “o’ out of the Count. What would that make him:)[/quote]
lol

Good card. Got friends coming over to watch. Can’t complain.

If Houston wins, his next fight should be again Forrest.

HOUSTON VS FORREST!
HOUSTON VS FORREST!
HOUSTON VS FORREST!
HOUSTON VS FORREST!

[quote comment="212383"]this card is awesome! wish lauzon’s fight was on PPV, but it’s all good.[/quote]

it might be depending on how long the televised bouts last

the ufc should get some more talent, things people would pay alot too see, more than thes two headliners. and i know who should be there, i say they should put the “Hawtness” yoshihiro takayama vs. akebono. then hawtness would HAVE to win lol but really i would pay like 27 and 3 quarters of a million to see these guys fight.

Takayama|0-4-0 ( but still is my fav. fighter)

Akebono|1-17-0 ( kick boxer, but still has had mma matches one even with royce gracie. but this guy SUCKs ASS! still cool though)

recruit these punching bags!

[quote comment="212393"]Everyone knows that Evans beat Jardine on TUF. With the route they have both taken since then, considering the caliber of their opponents (Griffen-Liddell and Ortiz), who would win a TUF rematch? Jardine and Evans have improved, but would Evans have been able to drop Liddell and avoid getting dropped himself in that fight, or out box a focused Griffen? Likewise, would Jardine be able to survive Tito’s takedowns and ground ‘n pound attack? Who would win out of that fight, seeing as to how they’ve both evolved?[/quote]

In my opinion Evans would beat Jardine a second time.

Griffin would also beat Jardine if they fought a second time.

If a more active Liddell showed up he’d also beat Jardine if they fought a second time.

And if they matched Ortiz against Jardine… Ortiz would win. First and Second time.

so… are we about to start?

ed herman is fighting joe doerkson not david terrell i seen couple posts saying he was

Gono def mccrory via armbar rd 2
Aurelio Def Caudillo via tko rd 1
Lauzon def Reinhardt via Choke rd 1

The lytle vs alves fight is a war so far with alves knocking down lytle early in the round, but rallying in the later parts of round 1. He may have stole the round

^^ Lytle may have won the round, sorry for making that unclear

It looks like Alves won rd 2 10-9 with great leg kicks and awesome standup.

doctors just stopped the lytle vs alves fight due to a cut, Thiago Alves via TKO

holly crap what a tubular fight dudes!

is it just me or does spencer fisher need to learn how to wrestle? Frankie just tooled him for three rounds in every aspect of the fight!

spencer got beat down

who you guys goin for in the main event???

i like tottaly agree that was gnar gnar for hecktotes sucka!

i dont think RT knows what the hell he’s talking about…

i think karo sucks and hes gettin lumped up tonite…

who’s next for lauzon? spencer fisher maybe?

what about edgar?

[quote comment="212465"]i dont think RT knows what the hell he’s talking about…[/quote]
Spencer got owned in this fight!!! It’s blatantly obvious, he was defending throughout the entire fight. He did a good job of getting out of dangerous positions, but that’s about it.

i retract my previous statement about karo, chonan is the bitch!

this whole ufc sucks a big hairy one, i hope alexander punches that guys face flat…

RT is a douche bag

[quote comment="212476"]i retract my previous statement about karo, chonan is the bitch![/quote]
Agreed, Chonan didnt look very good

goddamn it I hate ed herman! and karo is boring, I want to see soe finishes, plus I wanted Ryo to win, but at least Gono stole a win with a submission, the drop the 170 must be doing wonders for him.

[quote comment="202878"]Bisping-Evans is a good fight, though I don’t think it should be headlining a PPV. A Spike live event, maybe. The rest of the card, top to bottom, looks pretty solid. There should be a lot of quality fights here, even if they aren’t all huge names at this point.[/quote]

Wasnt it supposed to be Bisping Hamill rematch but Evans got brought in after Hamill got injured. Evans has almost earned a headlining spot but usually his fights are boring so i know what ya mean.

RYO CHONAN WTF???? why do you keep on throwing kicks and you know you’re gonna get taken down? especially if you’re fighting a Judo guy? I guess he wanted to loss! dumb ass

I’m not watching so forgive me for asking a stupid question but was herb dean reffing the alexander-silva fight?

I’m not watching so forgive me for asking a stupid question but was herb dean reffing the alexander-silva fight?

alexander is just a brawler, thats it. hes not for real.

Alexander needs to spend some time at X-treme Couture

THIAGO BEAT HOUSTON?! GODDAMN IT!

whoops, my comp is screwing up nvm the double post

How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?

no early stoppage, Alexander was going in and out, he would have got severely hurt if they let it go on. Fighters safety comes first, he couldn’t walk after the bout wobbling everywhere

Hey guys how about some round by round reporting? Thanks. I’m at the end of the road in Alaska and am counting on you…

[quote comment="212503"]How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?[/quote]
its just one set back in his early UFC career, plus he competes in a tough division, I think he can redeem himself

[quote comment="212482"]RT is a douche bag[/quote]
You’ve been wrong with everything you’ve said tonight so stfu. First u say Karo is gonna get smashed and that he’s overrated, and he dominated. Next you say Alexander is gonna smash silva and he got owned. fight on keyboard warrior

[quote comment="212482"]RT is a douche bag[/quote]
You’ve been wrong with everything you’ve said tonight so stfu. First u say Karo is gonna get smashed and that he’s overrated, and he dominated. Next you say Alexander is gonna smash silva and he got owned. fight on keyboard warrior

Houston fights with reckless abandon and he is going to get caught or steamroll guys. I think he’s the most exciting fighter in mma, but he will never be champ.

Rashad Evans defeats Micheal Bisping via Split Decision

Actually, Bisping just brought in the judges from his fight with Matt Hamill, and they overturned the decision. The new vote is Bisping over Evans 3-0. The count continues to roll on, or as they say in Britain, “he bangered his mash, guvn’r.”

I wish someone would have gotten submitted or knocked out in the Evans Bisping match. Evans has no chance of holding the belt anytime in the next 2 years. Evans can only ever grind out decision wins against tougher fighters cuz he’s good at avoiding damage. Bisping needs to train some more hell they both do. These guys are good fighters but they need to take it up about 5 notches to begin to even think about holding the belt.

Bisping now knows the sting of defeat! It hurts doesn’t? He now knows what Hamil felt when he got robbed! Rashad did alright but, He too will be defeated soon. Rampage will problably beat him, but, I think Rashad will be on a fighting high for awhile.

My picks by Win 6-1

Evans Wins
Silva Wins
Lytle Wins — gets KO’d by Thiago = (
Lauzon Wins
Parisyean Wins
Edgar Wins
Herman Wins

dam i was goin for bisping (((((

That Lauzon vs Reinhardt fight was sorry, he was just way to small and gave up way to much weight… he fights at 135lbs and should stay there at least he gave it a shot but now he knows.

I think Rashad lost that fight. Overall it was a disappointing night, but Thiago Silva made it a memorable one.

[quote comment="212531"]Rashad Evans defeats Micheal Bisping via Split Decision[/quote]

Honestly, I thought Bisping won. Sure, Rashad took him down, but he did not do crap the whole entire time. He would posture up and breath for about 10 seconds.

This was a horrible display of cardio, Greg Jackson must be disapointed with him, but yet again, he has never fully trained his fighters when the spot light is on them.

See Jardine, Sanchez, Marquardt as examples.

Bisping in my eyes won rounds 1 and 2, and I possibly even thought Round 1 could of been a 10 to 8.

Bisping vs. Hamill II now in Columbus.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

GReat night of fights, I don’t care if people thought this was boring, I enjoyed it and it was worth the money.

I just wished I saw that Alves/Lytle fight.

[quote comment="212475"][quote comment="212465"]i dont think RT knows what the hell he’s talking about…[/quote]
Spencer got owned in this fight!!! It’s blatantly obvious, he was defending throughout the entire fight. He did a good job of getting out of dangerous positions, but that’s about it.[/quote]

EDGAR is a smart fighter… he did just enough on his feet to get it going and went for the takedown as it presented itself and has a pretty good GnP game… I really like that he stuck with his strength, he will go far…. reallly far.

[quote comment="212544"]My picks by Win 6-1

Evans Wins
Silva Wins
Lytle Wins — gets KO’d by Thiago = (
Lauzon Wins
Parisyean Wins
Edgar Wins
Herman Wins[/quote]

Lytle’s fight got stopped via doctor because of the cut, so techincally he did not get knocked out.

THAT WAS . . .

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BORING

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CAN WE GET A DECENT CARD?

the only good fights were the pre-lims.. kinda sad

[quote]
Does anyone else think that this looks like the most boring fight card in the history of the UFC[/quote]

YES!

I DO.

Wow….IS Michael Bisping fucking Dana White or what…..there’s no way that fight was a split decision. I mean, I admit it was a boring and typical Rashad Evans fight, but damn…..Bisping at most won 1 round….if that!! These decisions or let me say these judges are smoking crack!!!

I thought Evans won rnd 1 and 3 but 3 was close. I don’t know anymore. Man, I hate these stupid decisions. Either way, two controversial wins in a row for Bisping would have sucked.

Bring on Bisping Hamill 2!

[quote comment="212562"]the only good fights were the pre-lims.. kinda sad[/quote]

The Frankie Edgar/Spencer Fisher fight was incredible.

Frankie Edgar’s wrestling has shown has phenominal he is. I would not say he is on the level of a Sherk, but man, he is an awesome wrestler.

Spencer should of hit him with knees similiar to Hermes Franca/Sean Sherk fight to make Frankie feel uncomfrontable with trying to take him down, then Spencer could fight his fight.

Houston Alexander, still one of the meanest dudes.. period. Yeah he got exposed for a crappy ground game, I think we all expected that. Houston Alexander is still one of the top strikers in the game. I was confused with Houston’s gameplan with utilizting the clinch when that would possibly be an easy take down..

Houston, take some advice, go train with Couture, then you would be the best fighter in that division.

I loved seeing Mayhem and Hendo in the corner of Ryo.

Anybody else really think it was funny how Randy was in the corner of Karo considering him and Dana’s so called “grudge.”

[quote comment="202738"][quote comment="202710"]I found this video made right before Elite XC Uprising. It’s an interview with Joe Lauzon and I found out the guy he’s fighting at UFC 78 comes from Miletich Fighting System and is an impressive 18-0. The interview was done at BJ PENN’s GYM/Training Center in Hilo, Hawaii. Here’s the link:

http://www.bjpenn.com/learn/index.php?article_id=705&parent_id=503

PS: I’m disappointed this fight is not on the Main Card. I really hope Joe Lauzon wins. Not only do I like him as a fighter, but I want people up in the States to see that there are fighters that BJ PENN is working with that are really impressive( ie: Mike Aina who fought a hard battle with UFC and Pride veteran Nick Diaz.)[/quote]

im sure that if there is enough time either the Lytle fight or the Lauzon fight will make it to PPV[/quote]
[quote comment="212440"]ed herman is fighting joe doerkson not david terrell i seen couple posts saying he was[/quote]
it was suppose to be Terrell Vs Doerkson
and David got hurt so Ed Herman filled in on a weeks notice

[quote comment="202827"][quote comment="202737"][quote comment="202676"]good card, but whats this junk about dana white saying the winner of rashad-bisping breaks into the top 5 LHW? impossible. msybe evans fits as a long shot for number 5 if he wins[/quote]

ur gonan say that if some1 becomes 16-0-0 or 16-0-1 they r not a top 5 fighter u must be crazy

im actually suprised that Diego didnt get a title shot b4 fighting Kos because he deff deserved one and if he lost in the title fight then no big deal[/quote]

Your record has nothing to do with your ranking! What’s Randy Couture, 15-8? And he’s #1 in the world. Take into consideration that even though the official decisions show different, everyone knows both these fighters are coming off losses. That compared with Rampage, Hendo, Dean of Mean, Iceman, Shogun, Silva, and Griffin and you think they’re in the top 5?[/quote]

i got a black belt in street fighting and ive got no fight training but evans nor bisbing cant beat me 16 times. my point 16-0 is bloody impressive.calibre of opponents does matter somewhat but any fighter fit enuf to step into d octagon is a potential ko either way. Randy Couture, is 15-8 and #1 cos he got better gettin his ass kicked over the years

[quote comment="212566"]I thought Evans won rnd 1 and 3 but 3 was close. I don’t know anymore. Man, I hate these stupid decisions. Either way, two controversial wins in a row for Bisping would have sucked.

Bring on Bisping Hamill 2![/quote]

In Columbus.

bring ufc to colorado lol hahaha

It seems like so many japanese fighters that get all this hype, end up disaponting once they get to the UFC. I’m not saying thier not good fighters, but Ryo is just another example. He didn’t look like a guy that beat Anderson Silva.

I’m just sayin

[quote comment="212500"]THIAGO BEAT HOUSTON?! GODDAMN IT![/quote]

Thiago is for real. He has what it takes to become future champ. Houston will never be a top LHW but he will always put on a fight. Bring Houston back for more fights.

Sorry,

In Columbus.

[quote comment="212573"]It seems like so many japanese fighters that get all this hype, end up disaponting once they get to the UFC. I’m not saying thier not good fighters, but Ryo is just another example. He didn’t look like a guy that beat Anderson Silva.

I’m just sayin[/quote]

Ryo Chonan is just an average fighter, of course the UFC hyped him up just to get $40.

Yeah he beat Anderson Silva by a squatting knee hook from the ocean.. I give him credit, he caught Anderson off guard, but it happens.

Saying Ryo Chonan is a great fighter because he defeated Anderson Silva is like saying Marvin Eastman is an astounding fighter because he still does hold a victory over Rampage Jackson.

Times change.

doesnt Jason Reinhardt kinda look like Steve Carrell?

[quote comment="212558"][quote comment="212544"]My picks by Win 6-1

Evans Wins
Silva Wins
Lytle Wins — gets KO’d by Thiago = (
Lauzon Wins
Parisyean Wins
Edgar Wins
Herman Wins[/quote]

Lytle’s fight got stopped via doctor because of the cut, so techincally he did not get knocked out.[/quote]

Ah’ thanks I, well that sucked”’

[quote comment="212570"][quote comment="212566"]I thought Evans won rnd 1 and 3 but 3 was close. I don’t know anymore. Man, I hate these stupid decisions. Either way, two controversial wins in a row for Bisping would have sucked.

Bring on Bisping Hamill 2![/quote]

In Columbus.[/quote]

I could tell Evans won… it was the takedowns and a little GnP, it’s the same as a few stiff jabs standing so Rashad connect more than Bis… Rashad definitely won but Bis more than held his own and if it was a 5 Rounder the way Ras was gassing I think Bis would have won…

I think Rashad is overtraining a little or maybe he needs to change something in his diet

[quote comment="212580"][quote comment="212573"]It seems like so many japanese fighters that get all this hype, end up disaponting once they get to the UFC. I’m not saying thier not good fighters, but Ryo is just another example. He didn’t look like a guy that beat Anderson Silva.

I’m just sayin[/quote]

Ryo Chonan is just an average fighter, of course the UFC hyped him up just to get $40.

Yeah he beat Anderson Silva by a squatting knee hook from the ocean.. I give him credit, he caught Anderson off guard, but it happens.

Saying Ryo Chonan is a great fighter because he defeated Anderson Silva is like saying Marvin Eastman is an astounding fighter because he still does hold a victory over Rampage Jackson.

Times change.[/quote]

Agreed, but I would have thought that we would see some Japanese fighters make some noise at the top levels in the UFC by now.

Also, did they just run out of last names in Brasil or what.

[quote comment="212575"][quote comment="212500"]THIAGO BEAT HOUSTON?! GODDAMN IT![/quote]

Thiago is for real. He has what it takes to become future champ. Houston will never be a top LHW but he will always put on a fight. Bring Houston back for more fights.[/quote]

Houston has a HUGE hole in his ground game, they announced one of his fighting styles as wrestling but I didn’t see that… looked like 1 yr of high school wrestling at best.

I read some comments that stated Karo doesnt have knock out power but what was not mentioned was that chonnen doesnt either. I thought ryo might take a desicions but karo is a much more well rounded fighter.

Why the hell was houston giong away from what worked for him coming out hesitant and trying to feel out his opponent when its the exact oppisite that won his first two bouts for him he was definately exposed tonight

Now I would like a REAL answer to this question, a logical, honest answer. How can anyone be a fan of a man like Michael Bisbing?

Good Fights!!!

Frank Edgar is an animal when i comes to wrestling and takedowns. Can’t really bad mouth him for lack of action cause Fisher ain’t no fish.

Silva is solid and i think can be a force in the division.

Main Event was a little lacking but i was actually more impressed with Bisbing than ever before. Still thought the decision was rightfully so. Rashad gassed but i believe did enough to win.

Karo won and still he is a douche bag.

Herman won and still he is a douche bag.

Joe Lauzon looks like he is 12, yet he is a little animal. Gotta love that guy. I would love to see him fight Ken-Flo.

Anyway better card and fights than i thought they would be when announced. Worth the $40

is it me or are more and more mma bouts going to the judges, I can remember watching the ufc and hardley any fights went to decision.

To many damn rules they need to allow knees to the head and knees to downed opponent resulting in alot less fights going to the judges. There are certain position that a fighter can retreat to where the other fighter really cant do shit. Like if he curls up like a turtle you cant punch him because its an illegal blow to the back of the head allowing knees would remedy that real quick

I bet if someone did the research and they took the pride fights and the zuffa ufc sanctioned with all the new rulles from 01 and compared the fights that went to desicion it would be a drastic difference

Edgar looked solid.Herman proved to be better than I thought he was.Karo/Chonan not real exciting.Alexander proved that he has no ground game.I doubt Alexander will ever be a UFC champ.Luazon is awesome that kid fucking rules.Bisping/Evans was boring.Evans should have stayed standing,He looked to have better hands.

“Anybody else really think it was funny how Randy was in the corner of Karo considering him and Dana’s so called “grudge.” ”

Ya, even between rounds when the camera went over to karo’s corner, Randy started to talk, and the producers cut to a different mic…..

I have never seen Spencer Fischer get man-handled like that before. Edgar made him look like a rookie. Way to go Jersey!!!

That night was unexpected for me.. I was picking houston for a big knockout but he didn’t look quite himself tonight. I can’t believe he went out like that, maybe silva is a force, Rashad didn’t dominate like I thought he would either, Hamill dominated bisping better than rashad… Bisping looked equal to the task tonight.

[quote post="3756"]Also, did they just run out of last names in Brasil or what.[/quote]

LOL, silva is a common name in Brazil, kinda like smith in the US

well at least this card is over and the next one looks enticing.

j lauzon and frankie looked really sharp.

houston looked like something was wrong with him or he had a really bad plan. whatever the case is he’s 35 and doesnt have that many years left to develop a ground game.

i was hoping somehow that rashad and bisping would both lose and move down to 185. i was having more respect for bisping after the fight until he kept saying that he thought he won.

weird card, even karo’s fight wasn’t that exciting.

[quote comment="212628"][quote post="3756"]Also, did they just run out of last names in Brasil or what.[/quote]

LOL, silva is a common name in Brazil, kinda like smith in the US[/quote]

But thoughts Silvas are something eles!

I’m just amazed at how easy it was for silva to mount alexander, alexander didn’t even cross his legs. how can any fighter nowadays not have any ground game? this is MMA, he should learn a little bit of everything, there is no excuse.

Not surprised to see Houston Alexander lose. That might be what it takes to get him to improve his game. Can’t just thug his opponents out as he moves up the ladder. Dana White referred to him as a kid several times in the pre-fight but he is 36 already. He still needs another year or two of solid improvement assuming he can start with a humble “I don’t know sh!t” attitude and find a good camp. Time is definitely not on his side.

The Bisping-Evans fight was entertaining. “Slow and methodical” or “boring”- take your pick. I agree with the decision but Bisping really showed well. This erases the negativity of the Matt Hammill match for me. I don’t see Bisping losing much ground if any in the “rankings”.

Was Rampage officially in Bisping’s corner or he just volunteered his services last night?

Oh and I thought Ed Hermann was really annoying during the TUF series but he seems to have toned it down quite a bit since then and continued to improve. Maybe less smoking and drinking and more training now? His cardio looked really decent last night. Very solid win for him.

[quote comment="212628"][quote post="3756"]Also, did they just run out of last names in Brasil or what.[/quote]

LOL, silva is a common name in Brazil, kinda like smith in the US[/quote]

Ha, no kidding! I think it must be like our top 5 rolled together (Smith, Jones, etc). Like Singh in India.

Guys the majority of Pride fighters are not living up to the hype…

Karo schooled him and was not pressured at all. Ryo should fight swick next.

Karo should take on 1 more guy before a title fight and that should be the loser of serra and hughs. Even though Karo fought and won serra before I think it would be a good fight.

Here I am already thinking Serra to lose… But that would make the most sense as GSP could go after Hughs. Maybe they will do a fitch vs gsp or Karo… either would be awesome.

Evans will never be a champ… They have to fight 5 rounds, sometimes.

Doerkerson needed some offence, he did end one round off and buddy got saved by the bell. Very very lucky. But the guy looked like he didnt come prepared to fight.

Houston we have a problem… That is your ground work, but it started from the clinch. Dont go there with a grappler unless you have him rocked. The UFC just killed some of thier hype. Houstons next fight should be the loser of Silva and Liddell.

[quote comment="212592"]
To many damn rules they need to allow knees to the head and knees to downed opponent resulting in alot less fights going to the judges. [/quote]
Just like in the NFL, they might consider tinkering with the rule book once in a while. But the most important thing for the UFC was to get sanctioned initially and if they have to be overly cautious, then so be it. All the major organizations pretty much follow those same rules as far as I know.

[quote comment="212503"]How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?[/quote]
I’m on HA’s bandwagon just like… that French heavyweight… tall K-1 dude… drawing a blank here. Crap. I think Alexander has potential but he needs more time in the oven and maybe now he will be teachable.

Crap… guy who beat Cropcop recently. Man, I am stupid this morning…

Most boring UFC ever ! This card was bad for the UFC. This was a ultimate fight night card. It was just dana and the ferriti brothers squeezing some xtra cash for a low fighter payroll. I practially fell asleep on the main event.

[quote comment="212586"][quote comment="212575"][quote comment="212500"]THIAGO BEAT HOUSTON?! GODDAN IT![/quote]

Thiago is for real. He has what it takes to become future champ. Houston will never be a top LHW but he will always put on a fight. Bring Houston back for more fights.[/quote]

Houston has a HUGE hole in his ground game, they announced one of his fighting styles as wrestling but I didn’t see that… looked like 1 yr of high school wrestling at best.[/quote]
No matter how good your wrestling skills are, Jujitsu is a must now. He needs to work on being on the bottom, keeping guard.

BISPING F**KING WON OK.

Thiago knocking out Houston, damn. I like Thiago too but I was going for Houston. I wanted the excitement Houston was garnering for all his fights to continue but….
Ed Herman with the KO-awesome adding stand up and ko power to his resume, also was there no one else available anywhere to replace terrell.
Frank Edgar took fisher to school, good.
I’m glad Karo won.
Joe lauzons reaction after winning was the best, like hey I knocked out pulver and I have 2 wins in the ufc and you give me this guy, wow all that training to fight my high school janitor.
Lauzon is exciting, a beast.
The Akihiro Gono submission looked brutal and the fact that mccrory didn’t tap but looked like he blacked out from a arm lock(from the pain) wow.
And I liked the Evans-Bisping fight I thought it was a better performance by both of them then their last fights each.
I was going for Bisping but I’m not disapointed in the decision, I’m interested to see wwho both fighters fight next it is kind’ve lined up now to see ortiz-evans II and Bisping-Hamil II.
Overall I’ve enjoyed every ufc event and this one the same.

Another reason why Thigao Silva is a force in the 205 division, because he is training with the new american Chute Boxe team called Team Link.

Team Link has Gabe Gonzaga and Paulo Filho, if that is not top notch training partners and cornermen I have no idea what is not.

Silva is a lot taller than I thought, I thought he was smaller than Houston because everytime they show the Dwral fight it looks like Thigao is small.

Frankie Edgar is a stud.

I think Frankie Edgar vs. KenFlo should determine who fights for the lightweight championship.

I still think Bisping squeeked out a victory, but I can also see how that judges gave it to Rashad.

Rashad still is a boring fighter who just lays and prays similiar to Tito Ortiz.

Who does Rashad fight now? He would never fight Jardine. Dan Henderson vs. Rashad? That would be a wrestling clinic. Rashad vs. Forrest? Rashad vs. Wanderlei/Chuck?

You tell me, I dunno right now who is in the top 5 that Rashad can fight.

But I would like to see a Bonnar/Evans II on a UFN.

What lies next for Bisping? 185? Matt Hamill? Josh Haynes again? (lol)

Ed Herman got caught last night, and the bell saved him. What lies next for him? Patrick Cote? Anderson Silva (if that happens I am betting the house on Anderson Silva) with the weakened division of the middleweight, unless Drew McFedries and Martin Kampmann make triumph returns here shortly, this division is very weak.

But maybe we will have a Ed Herman vs. Nate Quarry which would be a nice fight.

Who knows..

The only question I consistantly think about is who is next for Anderson Silva?

WHO!?

What a waste of a night. I’ve watched every ppv shown since 2004 and this has to be the worst card every. The first three fights shown almost put me to sleep. Whats the deal UFC, is all the money going to your head???

What a waste of $49.99 (yeah I buy the hi-def version for the enhanced blood)

Alexander – what a lack of a game plan. He came out and hugged? Where was at least the attempt at a bomb or two. I wanted to see him tested via cardio and hoped he’d get a little deep into the fight – I agree the lack of any type of ground game was his downfall.

Karo – not a single throw? OK he outlasted and even dominated in a boring sort of way. Props to him for knowing it and admiting to it though.

Rashad – I really through Bisping would get knocked out early – I was really wrong on this one. I can see Rashad gassing against Brad Imes when giving up 100 pounds or whatever, but he was sucking wind mid-way through the second.

Fisher – In the past I’ve really like Spencer’s energy and fearlessness – who knew he couldn’t stop a take down. He got owned in this one.

To the people who saw the houston silva fight, what was houston like when he got up? I just saw the fight and it looked like the ref was too protective and stopped the fight prematurely. Houston was rocked but the fight was early and he looked like he could have recovered if he was given a chance. Also that ref was HUGE, anyone know if he fights?

with out a doubt Bisping won that fight, I hope now everyone will jump on Evans now that he lost and still got the decision, just like they did to Bisping after the Hamill fight……bisping stoped more take downs, threw more punches and knees and kicks, when Rishad took him down he got up with ease, and he had a couple of nice take downs himself, but after the Hamill fight there was no way bisping would get a dicision….

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.

Ya, i’m disappointed in myself for paying for that card.

I bought into the hype machine. I knew the main event was gonna stink because they both got to decision in their last fights, but i had hope for the undercard.

That’ll learn me.

so ? does this mean evans is gonna fight rampage next ????

[quote comment="202733"]ok few things
1. this card is sick except for the main event
2. Ed Herman does not have a boring fight in him so please stop hating on him.. after he beats terrell(i hope) who is a tough test..its herman grove 2..been waiting
3. NEWGUYTHEGUN: i dont know that sort of scoring you are using…i have watched the fight 3 or 4 times and if it was in vegas hamill by unanimous.
4. Louzon on a card over herman vs.terrell lets be serious, let the kid win a fight in the UFC before hes over those guys.
5. hope bisping has to be carried out of the octagon (dont care for evans,,but seriously dont like bisping)[/quote]

Did you not see Lauzon knock out Jens Pulver?

[quote comment="212699"]To the people who saw the houston silva fight, what was houston like when he got up? I just saw the fight and it looked like the ref was too protective and stopped the fight prematurely. Houston was rocked but the fight was early and he looked like he could have recovered if he was given a chance. Also that ref was HUGE, anyone know if he fights?[/quote]

Houston was done….that was a good stoppage in my opinion, he saved him from some from more unanswered homeruns.

[quote comment="212667"][quote comment="212503"]How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?[/quote]
I’m on HA’s bandwagon just like… that French heavyweight… tall K-1 dude… drawing a blank here. Crap. I think Alexander has potential but he needs more time in the oven and maybe now he will be teachable.

Crap… guy who beat Cropcop recently. Man, I am stupid this morning…[/quote]

Cheick Kongo

1. Really bummed that Fisher couldn’t mount a better takedown defense. He’s a better fighter than he looked in this fight.

2. Looked like Houston changed his game plan and didn’t come out like dynamite, but he should have. That apparently works for him.

3. Bisping/Evans was definitely close but I thought Bisping had it. Evens definitely took him down almost at will but I thought Bisping did a lot more from the ground. Even when Evans got side control, he wasn’t able to put many big combinations together. Then there’s the fact that Evans was gassed early. I thought Bisping looked stronger at the end of the fight.

I think the Alexander stoppage was fine, when the ref stopped it alexander didn’t get up right away and didn’t seem mad that it was stopped jus mad that he couldn’t get out from underneath silva.
Now we know he’s human and his ground game skills are nill
and more importantly alexander learned that he cant just come in throwing bombs and get a title now he knows he has to train in all aspects.
I’m sure we will see him again and the next guy is dead.

why do some comments have to await moderation and some dont.
Also when it says awaiting moderation, I’m guessing not but can it be seen by everyone or just myself.

back to back shows that were garbage… i think fighters are becoming watered down… or joe silva doesnt know what he’s doing… i purchased the last two fights and wish i never did… i want a refund!!!

houston has no ground game at all, i should have went with thiago, he needs to work on it badly

Thiago knocking out Houston, damn. I like thiago too but I was going for Houston.
I wanted the excitment Houston was garnering from all his fights to continue, but…
Ed Herman with the KO-awesome adding stand up and knock out power to his resume. Also was there no one else anywhere to replace Terrell.
Edgar took fisher to school, cool.
I’m glad Karo won.
Joe Lauzons reaction after winning was the best, like hey I knock out Pulver, I have 2 wins in the Ufc and I have to fight this guy, wow all that traing and I have to fight my high school janitor.
Lauzon is exciting and a beast.
The Akihiro gono submission looked brutal the fact tyhat mccrory didn’t tap but looked like he blacked out from an armlock(from the pain)wow.
I liked the Bisping-evans fight I thought it was a better performance by both of them then what was shown in each of their last fights.
I was going for Bisping but I’nm not dissapointed in the decision.
It’s always interesting to see who both fighters fight next, it’s kind’ve lined up now for ortiz-evans II and Bisping and Hamil II.
Overall I’ve enjoyed every UFC event and this one the same.

[quote comment="212709"][quote comment="212699"]To the people who saw the houston silva fight, what was houston like when he got up? I just saw the fight and it looked like the ref was too protective and stopped the fight prematurely. Houston was rocked but the fight was early and he looked like he could have recovered if he was given a chance. Also that ref was HUGE, anyone know if he fights?[/quote]

Houston was done….that was a good stoppage in my opinion, he saved him from some from more unanswered homeruns.[/quote]
I agree with the stoppage. Houston was going in and out and the stoppage saved him from taking a ton of extra shots.

I think there should be a tag team MMA match like they have in the WWF. And the first match should be Silva and Silva VS. Silva and Silvia- that would be a great match. I always said Houston Alexander was not very good, just like 2 years ago I said Chuck Liddell is overated, and I still think Forrest Griffin sucks. But seriously, I think Silva is doing a great job not as good as the other Silva but much better then the other other Silva.

Matt Silva Out

[quote comment="212549"]That Lauzon vs Reinhardt fight was sorry, he was just way to small and gave up way to much weight… he fights at 135lbs and should stay there at least he gave it a shot but now he knows.[/quote]
It looked like Reinhardt was a little overwhelmed in the octagon. Lauzon is tough and he always goes right after guys. I wouldn’t mind seeing what Reinhardt could do at 135 in WEC. Hopefully he gets a couple of fights as a bantamweight. He’s not in Lauzon’s league at 155. Joe needs a step up now. His next fight should be a top 10 lightweight.

[quote post="3756"] Also, did they just run out of last names in Brasil or what.

LOL, silva is a common name in Brazil, kinda like smith in the US

Ha, no kidding! I think it must be like our top 5 rolled together (Smith, Jones, etc). Like Singh in India.[/quote]

I think it’s just a coincidence there are so many silvas in the UFC. Trust me, it’s not like every other person is named silva here in Brazil, it’s just a coincidence really. But it is a common name however.

[quote post="3756"]I think there should be a tag team MMA match like they have in the WWF. And the first match should be Silva and Silva VS. Silva and Silvia- that would be a great match. [/quote]

LMAO, I’d have to bet my money on silva on this one, without a doubt, silva by KO!

[quote post="3756"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

Dude, i hope you’re not making this up, that would be sweet!

[quote comment="212734"][quote post="3756"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

Dude, i hope you’re not making this up, that would be sweet![/quote]

Dude, I am not. Dude.

In all seriousness, I am very glad I live remotely near Columbus, and I am going to this event. I mean, finally a true threat to the middleweight championship.

Hendo vs. Silva will be a war! Fight of the Year 2008!!!

Houston was out and it was a good stoppage I think. He obviously was not in a good spot any chance of recovering at all.

I was surprised that Houston did not try any harder to get Silva off of him.

Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?

[quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]

Part of the deal to fight in New Jersy is that the refs had to be NJACB licensed officials. So, the officials were all ACB picked from the state system.

damn from the play by play Evans bisping looks like a total war , and then theres the disclaimer

“Overall a very pedestrian fight, solid effort by both guys but not alot of good action and a very slow methodical pace.”

I missed the event thanks MMA Mania for the blow by blow coverage.

The UFC has to market Frankie Edgar a little better after this fight. This kid is the future of the division, and if there ever was a featherweight (145) division him and urijah would be the future there also. I wonder what’s next for him. Kenflo for #1 contender? If Sherk is stripped of the belt maybe Sherk vs Edgar for #1 contender? What about Joe Lauzon?

NC-17,

The last thing Dan Henderson said himself is that he wants to stay at LHW. Bubba The Love Sponge didn’t get it right, and neither did you.

Unless you know Dan Henderson/train with Team Quest, or whatever, you need to stop with the rumors. Dan Henderson is NOT moving down to MW.

[quote comment="212700"]with out a doubt Bisping won that fight, I hope now everyone will jump on Evans now that he lost and still got the decision, just like they did to Bisping after the Hamill fight……bisping stoped more take downs, threw more punches and knees and kicks, when Rishad took him down he got up with ease, and he had a couple of nice take downs himself, but after the Hamill fight there was no way bisping would get a dicision….[/quote]
I actually thought Rashad won it. He got the 1st and 3rd round Bisbing got the 2nd. The reason everyone was pissed as Bisbing was not because he was given a decision he didn’t deserve(he can’t control that) but how disrespectful he was to Hammels after getting the gift decision. The truth of the matter is neither of these fighters deserved that win and Dana saying the winner of that fight is in the top 5 now is a joke. Rashad is probably top 10 and Bisbing maybe top 15 but now way either of those guys are top 5.

I guess the Ferriti Brothers and D White made some cash on this card, the payroll for these fighters must of been on a all time low, what a shit card!

[quote comment="212452"]doctors just stopped the lytle vs alves fight due to a cut, Thiago Alves via TKO[/quote]
i was there the croud boooed so much and even Alves said they should have continued the fight he didnt look like he wanted to win like that. Lytle said he was still able to see because the blood was not going into his eyes

[quote comment="212492"][quote comment="202878"]Bisping-Evans is a good fight, though I don’t think it should be headlining a PPV. A Spike live event, maybe. The rest of the card, top to bottom, looks pretty solid. There should be a lot of quality fights here, even if they aren’t all huge names at this point.[/quote]

Wasnt it supposed to be Bisping Hamill rematch but Evans got brought in after Hamill got injured. Evans has almost earned a headlining spot but usually his fights are boring so i know what ya mean.[/quote]

no it was supposed to be a Lightweight title fight, then Ortiz v Evans or Ortiz v Henderson, then Ortiz b*tched out and Hamill was injured so they put this match together

[quote comment="212503"]How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?[/quote]
im not

[quote comment="212736"][quote comment="212734"][quote post="3756"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

Dude, i hope you’re not making this up, that would be sweet![/quote]

Dude, I am not. Dude.

In all seriousness, I am very glad I live remotely near Columbus, and I am going to this event. I mean, finally a true threat to the middleweight championship.

Hendo vs. Silva will be a war! Fight of the Year 2008!!![/quote]

Hendo Vs. Silva in UFC 82 was announced in the post fight news conference.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=681486

[quote comment="212736"][quote comment="212734"][quote post="3756"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

Dude, i hope you’re not making this up, that would be sweet![/quote]

Dude, I am not. Dude.

In all seriousness, I am very glad I live remotely near Columbus, and I am going to this event. I mean, finally a true threat to the middleweight championship.

Hendo vs. Silva will be a war! Fight of the Year 2008!!![/quote]
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5096&zoneid=2

True or not, if Hendo doesn’t drop down to 185, who is going to challenge Silva? sorry, (Anderson Silva)

Neither Rashad or Bisping are belt contenders.

Too many decisions, but I don’t know what the answer is.

Rhienhart looked like a wind-up toy. A very small wind up toy.

[quote comment="212677"]Thiago knocking out Houston, damn. I like Thiago too but I was going for Houston. I wanted the excitement Houston was garnering for all his fights to continue but….
Ed Herman with the KO-awesome adding stand up and ko power to his resume, also was there no one else available anywhere to replace terrell.
Frank Edgar took fisher to school, good.
I’m glad Karo won.
Joe lauzons reaction after winning was the best, like hey I knocked out pulver and I have 2 wins in the ufc and you give me this guy, wow all that training to fight my high school janitor.
Lauzon is exciting, a beast.
The Akihiro Gono submission looked brutal and the fact that mccrory didn’t tap but looked like he blacked out from a arm lock(from the pain) wow.
And I liked the Evans-Bisping fight I thought it was a better performance by both of them then their last fights each.
I was going for Bisping but I’m not disapointed in the decision, I’m interested to see wwho both fighters fight next it is kind’ve lined up now to see ortiz-evans II and Bisping-Hamil II.
Overall I’ve enjoyed every ufc event and this one the same.[/quote]

have one UFC called UFC REMATCH and has both Ortiz Evans II and Bisping Hamill II

[quote comment="212767"]NC-17,

The last thing Dan Henderson said himself is that he wants to stay at LHW. Bubba The Love Sponge didn’t get it right, and neither did you.

Unless you know Dan Henderson/train with Team Quest, or whatever, you need to stop with the rumors. Dan Henderson is NOT moving down to MW.[/quote]
Not rumors its official. Was anounced at the press conference.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5096&zoneid=2

[quote comment="212701"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

ive known he was dropping for a while its old news

[quote comment="212748"][quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]

Part of the deal to fight in New Jersy is that the refs had to be NJACB licensed officials. So, the officials were all ACB picked from the state system.[/quote]
thats the thing the Houstin fight was stopped prematurely if Mcarthy or Dean was the ref it would have continued for at aleast a little longer

Hey Fred, I think you owe Mrnc17 an apology. Now y’all hug and be friends.

[quote comment="212790"][quote comment="212701"]ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON at 185 UFC 82!!!!

ANDERSON SILVA vs. DAN HENDERSON!!!!!

sorry new news.

Hendo is dropping weight to fight for the title at UFC 82 in Columbus.[/quote]

ive known he was dropping for a while its old news[/quote]

It was rumored, nothing was really announced, but now since the UFC has said it, well I guess it is Official![quote comment="212767"]NC-17,

The last thing Dan Henderson said himself is that he wants to stay at LHW. Bubba The Love Sponge didn’t get it right, and neither did you.

Unless you know Dan Henderson/train with Team Quest, or whatever, you need to stop with the rumors. Dan Henderson is NOT moving down to MW.[/quote]

Sorry Fred, as GSP’s link proves, I was correct in saying that Anderson/Hendo fight was going to happen.

GSP, thank you for the link.

Was I the only one cursing Frankie Edgar’s name for making that fight so boring? I thought that was going to be a sick fight, and I didn’t care who won, but that sucked and I am no Edgar fan because of it. I hope they still give Alexander a tough opponent for his next fight so it’ll be cool when he brings it. Part of me thought Thiago was going to do what he did, but I’m shocked at how Alexander came out so cautious. I think that’s why he lost, that and Thiago apparently did his research and was prepared for Houston’s style.
I hate it when guys get saved by the bell, but the Herman Doerksen fight was entertaining, much unlike Karo Parisyan and Frankie Edgar’s victories, which I think crapped on this card. Karo apparently always takes his fights to decision, and Edgar wasn’t interested in the stand-up, which I thought was a chickenshit strategy. I don’t think winning is everything I think being an entertaining fighter is everything and I’ve lost that respect for Edgar. I wouldn’t want to watch that fight if it was taking place on the floor right next to me. It was just lame.

I’m still on the Houston Bandwagon, dude is still cold.

Heck Liddel got knocked out by rampage in a pride fight back in the day but he was still cold right?

say what you will, but I think bisping had that fight…but hey payback is a bitch!

Anybody got a link to the Alves vs Lytle fight? If you got one please post a link to it.

[quote comment="212804"]I’m still on the Houston Bandwagon, dude is still cold.

Heck Liddel got knocked out by rampage in a pride fight back in the day but he was still cold right?[/quote]

Agreed. A real fan of anything never jumps ship based solely on one or even two poor performances, mishap’s, lapse in judgement, etc. If you do, it begs the question as to whether or not you were ever truly a fan at all. Now, if a pattern develops then that’s a different story.

[quote comment="212765"]The UFC has to market Frankie Edgar a little better after this fight. This kid is the future of the division, and if there ever was a featherweight (145) division him and urijah would be the future there also. I wonder what’s next for him. Kenflo for #1 contender? If Sherk is stripped of the belt maybe Sherk vs Edgar for #1 contender? What about Joe Lauzon?[/quote]

We cant forget Tyson Griffin. Plus we’ve gotta wait for the Huerta vs Guida fight to happen before we can start putting the pieces of the puzzle kknow as “155″ together.

lets see a rematch of bisping hammil
proves that bisping cant win decisions on us soil

[quote comment="212744"]Houston was out and it was a good stoppage I think. He obviously was not in a good spot any chance of recovering at all.

I was surprised that Houston did not try any harder to get Silva off of him.[/quote]

Yeah, me too. I’m still trying to figure out why he didnt unleash his usual barrage when he 1st engaged Silva. Almost like he purposefully wanted the fight to last longer than usual.It was weird.

Then he had the nerve to settle into guard/half-guard instead of working on getting back to his feet. It was almost like he was welcoming the ground situation. Stupid to try & showcase the semblance of ground skills against a BJJ black-belt……very stupid.

From another perspective, HA could choose to become the new Chuck if he sticks to the script & fights where he’s strongest which is standing up. I dont care how many fighters are aware of what his gameplan may be. The dude charges in at 100mph & strikes with the force of a Jackhammer. He has a distinct advantage over the majority of opponents in that he has KO power from on the inside. Most fighters dont (outside of a Thai knee) so he’ll be at an advantage while most will have their striking power neutralized. That alone will win fights against the majority of opponents.

[quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]
How about the new ring girl, Edith? She should have got the bonus for knockout of the night.

Edgar-Fisher: Fisher did not stand a chance against one of the most technical fighters there are, Mr. Edgar. One judge even gave him a 10-8 round. This was a total blowout than what I expected.

Herman-Doerkson: I thought Herman might KO Doerkson, and it didnt surprise me one bit. Herman impresses me more and more each time I watch him fight. He’s one of those fighters that keep getting better.

Parysian-Chonan- Parysian pretty much controlled the whole fight but proved not to be very dangerous or dominating. A big dissapointment this fight turned out to be.

Alexander-Silva: All eyes were on Houston Alexander at the beginning of the fight, and all eyes shifted the other way at the end of the fight. Silva is obviously on his way to the top. He looked phenomenal. He is extremely quick, and extremely powerful for a LHW. I feel bad for his next opponent in line for a title shot, because he is going to punish and definitely make some contenders look bad.

Bisping-Evans: This fight went as it was scripted to be, boring as hell, and Evans the victor after 3 rounds.

Thank God UFC78 is over, so I have ‘79 to look forward to.

[quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]

The refs are employed by the commission of each state, not the UFC.

Houston Alexander is NOT for real. Afterall, I’m happy to know that I was right knowing a better than average wrestler or Jiujitsu would be able to put an end to all the hype

One of the worst UFCs I have ever seen. The card was crap. The fights were crap. I love Evans, but he should not have been fighting Bisping for a headline. I can’t believe I wasted 40 bucks on that ppv. UFC needs a title fight every event.

I don’t believe that Houston Alexander is a one hit wonder but moreso a very talented fighter at his respective disciplines who simply needs to spend more time becoming more well-rounded. But how can you really hate a guy whose a single father to six children and whose motivation to fight stems from putting a roof over his kids, clothes on their backs, and food on the table.

I’ll tell ya, Thiago Silva earned a lot of respect from me in his post-fight comment about how although he won the fight, he believes Houston Alexander is a real-life hero in his eyes. That is the kind of class that the UFC should be proud to have around.

[quote post="3756"]Houston fights with reckless abandon and he is going to get caught or steamroll guys. I think he’s the most exciting fighter in mma, but he will never be champ. [/quote]
Houston fought with reckless abandonment in the 2 fights he won, then he tried the methodical approach and he got his ass kicked. His strenght is overwelming guys early, with his vicious onslaught, why he changed from what was working baffles me. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[quote post="3756"]How many ppl are going to jump off the Houston Alexander band wagon now?
I’m on HA’s bandwagon just like… that French heavyweight… tall K-1 dude… drawing a blank here. Crap. I think Alexander has potential but he needs more time in the oven and maybe now he will be teachable.
Crap… guy who beat Cropcop recently. Man, I am stupid this morning…
Cheick Kongo [/quote]
Unless you’re Tim Sylvia, then it’s, Chetch Kongo.Lol

[quote comment="212748"][quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]

Part of the deal to fight in New Jersy is that the refs had to be NJACB licensed officials. So, the officials were all ACB picked from the state system.[/quote]

I liked the refs this time around. They were pretty good at standing ppl up and breaking up the boring clinches quickly (at least more than usual). Wish they would’ve refereed the Sylvia/Vera dancing with the stars routine.

[quote post="3756"]From another perspective, HA could choose to become the new Chuck if he sticks to the script & fights where he’s strongest which is standing up. I dont care how many fighters are aware of what his gameplan may be. The dude charges in at 100mph & strikes with the force of a Jackhammer. He has a distinct advantage over the majority of opponents in that he has KO power from on the inside. Most fighters dont (outside of a Thai knee) so he’ll be at an advantage while most will have their striking power neutralized. That alone will win fights against the majority of opponents. [/quote]
I agree, why he abandoned that approach, is beyond me.

There is a lot of trash fighters in the UFC. I would like to see gesias calvacante and shinya aoki(LW), josh barnett and Fedor(HW), Paulo Filho taking A.Silva title,,,Takanory Gomi, Ricardo Arona, Kasushi Sakuraba, those guys are 4real…

[quote comment="212792"][quote comment="212748"][quote comment="212745"]Anyone know why we had all the new refs last night?

Dana cutting the payroll?[/quote]

Part of the deal to fight in New Jersy is that the refs had to be NJACB licensed officials. So, the officials were all ACB picked from the state system.[/quote]
thats the thing the Houstin fight was stopped prematurely if Mcarthy or Dean was the ref it would have continued for at aleast a little longer[/quote]
dude if it would of gone a little longer he would of gotten hit more thats all that was going to happen, im a huge Liddell fan and when he got koed i said the same shit blah blah he could of recovered early stoppage, but, i have come to accept that he got koed and so did Alexander if your a fan of his then i can see why you would say it was an early stoppage but, if your not a fan of HA then you must not know what you are talking about and are a new fan to the sport.

Can’t believe some people are questioning the Alexander stoppage!!!

He was out and would have just eaten more and more damage.

[quote comment="213391"]Can’t believe some people are questioning the Alexander stoppage!!!

He was out and would have just eaten more and more damage.[/quote]
I agree with u, 10sec more would represent more damage for the 35 years old. I wonder why the doctors only stop the well known guys… see liddel vs rampage.

Not only have the pay per view cards reached a new low, so has the ultimate fighter show. The current Ultimate Fighter show fighters have shown less talent and heart then any previous show.
Also while Dana White has spent considerable time projecting a positive image for his fighters, continued use of a single word from Matt Serra to describe Matt Hughes, has done considerable damage to the image of the UFC.

[quote comment="212534"]Actually, Bisping just brought in the judges from his fight with Matt Hamill, and they overturned the decision. The new vote is Bisping over Evans 3-0. The count continues to roll on, or as they say in Britain, “he bangered his mash, guvn’r.”[/quote]

No one says that in England you tw*t