Comments on: UFC Quick Quote: Liddell not concerned about third straight loss http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:46:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: rhys wilkins http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-207731 rhys wilkins Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:00:05 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-207731 CHUCK VS WANDERLEI BEATDOWN Since this fight will basically all be standing, I will rank their kick boxing skills Punching Power: Chuck Liddell (Can knock out people moving backwards) Kicks: Wanderlei seems to use em alot more, but Chuck does have decent power on his feet. Thai clinch/knees: WANDY!!! WANDY!!!! WANDY!!! Boxing: Chuck has good counters but blocks punches with his face alot. Wanderlei avoids punches well Aggression: Wandy, definetly. Stamina: Wandy Overall: Mr Silva will be taking this one by 3rd round TKO CHUCK VS WANDERLEI

BEATDOWN

Since this fight will basically all be standing, I will rank their kick boxing skills

Punching Power: Chuck Liddell (Can knock out people moving backwards)

Kicks: Wanderlei seems to use em alot more, but Chuck does have decent power on his feet.

Thai clinch/knees: WANDY!!! WANDY!!!! WANDY!!!

Boxing: Chuck has good counters but blocks punches with his face alot. Wanderlei avoids punches well

Aggression: Wandy, definetly.

Stamina: Wandy

Overall: Mr Silva will be taking this one by 3rd round TKO

]]> By: GORANDY http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-204925 GORANDY Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:30:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-204925 IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?! meanwhile chuck DOESN't CARE if he wins or loses he 'll get 500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv's and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn't care oh and he's crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can't DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He'll do it if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP IF RANDY LOST 2 STRAIGHT LIKE CHUCK , ONE BEING A KO IN THE WHAT 1st round and another by a fighter KEITH J. WHO GOT PAID 7,000 to show and 7,000 to win?!?!?!
meanwhile chuck DOESN’t CARE if he wins or loses he ‘ll get
500,000 to show up and lose and 1.5- 2 mil for ppv’s and 1-2 million in sponsors yeah he shouldn’t care oh and he’s crazy dana whites boy remembere dana use to be chuck and titos agent, oh and dana when he use to talk nicer with more hair took his project over to pride while fighting in the ufc to get his arse kicked by Jackson , so WHY THE F can’t DANA recipercate and have FEDOR COM EIN TO THE UFC AND FIGHT RANDY 1 TIME damn! DANA WOULD BANK SO MUCH $$$ He’ll do it
if DANA DOES NOT then he really should be fired ASAP

]]> By: JEL http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-204230 JEL Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:12:31 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-204230 WANDERLEI, GET AS MEAN AND DETERMINED AS I'VE SEEN YOU FOR YRS NOW AND RETIRE CHUCK THE SPACEMAN, I MEAN ICEMAN FOR GOOD. DON'T FORGET TO SHAVE THAT HEAD ,YOU KNOW YOU LOOK MEANER AND CRAZIER, AND FIGHT MEANER AND CRAZIER EH! WANDERLEI, GET AS MEAN AND DETERMINED AS I’VE SEEN YOU FOR YRS NOW AND RETIRE CHUCK THE SPACEMAN, I MEAN ICEMAN FOR GOOD. DON’T FORGET TO SHAVE THAT HEAD ,YOU KNOW YOU LOOK MEANER AND CRAZIER, AND FIGHT MEANER AND CRAZIER EH!

]]> By: mo http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-202528 mo Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:15:24 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-202528 I think this is the perfect fight for the iceman, he got caught against rampage, although im not saying he would have won! He would certainly have gave a better account of himself. Jardine was a crap fight for liddell and in my personal opinion it was a lose lose fight for liddell, and he wasnt up for the fight!! I think he will beat wandi, get a rematch with jardine and pulvarise him before a rematch with rampage!! Cant wait tho, great fight! And i wish all of you who want liddell to retire will eat your words, simply because the division is stronger than ever and liddell is one of the reasons for that. Cmon liddell!!!!! I think this is the perfect fight for the iceman, he got caught against rampage, although im not saying he would have won! He would certainly have gave a better account of himself. Jardine was a crap fight for liddell and in my personal opinion it was a lose lose fight for liddell, and he wasnt up for the fight!! I think he will beat wandi, get a rematch with jardine and pulvarise him before a rematch with rampage!! Cant wait tho, great fight! And i wish all of you who want liddell to retire will eat your words, simply because the division is stronger than ever and liddell is one of the reasons for that. Cmon liddell!!!!!

]]> By: DJ Pullout http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201779 DJ Pullout Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:17:33 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201779 One of Wandi's last two losses was against Cro Cop (A heavyweight) Wandi is still on his game. Watch out Lidell..... youre retirement is right around the corner. One of Wandi’s last two losses was against Cro Cop (A heavyweight) Wandi is still on his game. Watch out Lidell….. youre retirement is right around the corner.

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201574 john Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:56 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201574 [quote comment="201175"][quote comment="201110"]Ive been watching Liddell for a long time. I have never seen him so cautious since the bell rang against Rampage Jackson. Hes has been way to over cautious. Both these guys better come out flying or this could be the most anticipated belly flop of a fight in the history of fighting. To be honest i cant say who's gonna win. Wandi got KOed by Hendo recently and Liddell by Ranpage after both of em were on a long streak. then they both lose the next fight. its do or die for both. i hope it lives up to the hype.[/quote] It sounds like you have indeed been watching Liddell for a long time, but appearantly not the same for Wanderlei Silva. Wandi did not lose his next fight after fighting Hendo. Hendo WAS his last fight. Wandi had lost to Cro Cop in his fight prior to fighting Hendo. [quote comment="201087"]i'll be pulling for chuck big time in this one...he needs this, three losses in a row, would put a big stain on his brilliant career[/quote] I, myself will be rooting for the Axe Murderer in this fight. To be quite honest, I've had enough of having Chuck Liddell forced in my face. Its time for him to move over and let the new wave of MMA stars shine. Especially now that Randy is now no longer apart of the UFC (who knows what 4pm will hold). Am I a fan of Chuck - of course, but he has never been among my favorite fighters. I want Wanderlei to KO Liddell and then get a rematch with Rampage. THAT is the fight that I want to see after Liddell/Silva. If Chuck wins, who will he fight? He won't be ready for a #1 contender fight in my eyes. He would end up fighting a TUF winner. [quote post="3728"]henderson got lucky with the spining back fist against wandi.... [/quote] In no way did that win Henderson the fight. There was zero luck involved in that fight. You can blame it on Wandi being sick with Strept throat days leading up to the fight, but luck? C'mon now.[/quote] [quote comment="201175"][quote comment="201110"]Ive been watching Liddell for a long time. I have never seen him so cautious since the bell rang against Rampage Jackson. Hes has been way to over cautious. Both these guys better come out flying or this could be the most anticipated belly flop of a fight in the history of fighting. To be honest i cant say who's gonna win. Wandi got KOed by Hendo recently and Liddell by Ranpage after both of em were on a long streak. then they both lose the next fight. its do or die for both. i hope it lives up to the hype.[/quote] It sounds like you have indeed been watching Liddell for a long time, but appearantly not the same for Wanderlei Silva. Wandi did not lose his next fight after fighting Hendo. Hendo WAS his last fight. Wandi had lost to Cro Cop in his fight prior to fighting Hendo. [quote comment="201087"]i'll be pulling for chuck big time in this one...he needs this, three losses in a row, would put a big stain on his brilliant career[/quote] I, myself will be rooting for the Axe Murderer in this fight. To be quite honest, I've had enough of having Chuck Liddell forced in my face. Its time for him to move over and let the new wave of MMA stars shine. Especially now that Randy is now no longer apart of the UFC (who knows what 4pm will hold). Am I a fan of Chuck - of course, but he has never been among my favorite fighters. I want Wanderlei to KO Liddell and then get a rematch with Rampage. THAT is the fight that I want to see after Liddell/Silva. If Chuck wins, who will he fight? He won't be ready for a #1 contender fight in my eyes. He would end up fighting a TUF winner. [quote post="3728"]henderson got lucky with the spining back fist against wandi.... [/quote] In no way did that win Henderson the fight. There was zero luck involved in that fight. You can blame it on Wandi being sick with Strept throat days leading up to the fight, but luck? C'mon now.[/quote] ViolentMike: Excellent post. I agree strongly with everthing that you said. If chuck wins, I suspect Shogun will want to avenge wandy's loss. A fight against Shogun (who is also comming off of a loss makes sense) If wandy wins, it has been made public that wandy wants to avenge Shogun's loss to griffin... so wandy vs. Griffin would make sense. Winner gets Rampage There are many fights left for both wandy and Liddell win or loose. Both Liddell and Silva would be interesting to watch against: Houston Alexander (if he continues to win) Dan Henderson (Wandy and Hendo each hold a win against each other, a 3rd fight is inevitable, and Hendo would have fought Liddell if Chuck would have beaten Rampage) Arona (a 3rd fight between Arona and wandy would be interesting because they each hold a win over the other, and its always great to see Chuck fight against top caliber wrestlers like Arona) Forrest Griffin Winner of Rashad vs. Bisping (eventhough in my oppinion the winner will be seriously outclassed against wandy or Liddell) Machida because i wouldnt mind seeing Liddell or Wandy knock his freakin head off of his neck [quote comment=”201175″][quote comment=”201110″]Ive been watching Liddell for a long time. I have never seen him so cautious since the bell rang against Rampage Jackson. Hes has been way to over cautious. Both these guys better come out flying or this could be the most anticipated belly flop of a fight in the history of fighting. To be honest i cant say who’s gonna win. Wandi got KOed by Hendo recently and Liddell by Ranpage after both of em were on a long streak. then they both lose the next fight. its do or die for both. i hope it lives up to the hype.[/quote]

It sounds like you have indeed been watching Liddell for a long time, but appearantly not the same for Wanderlei Silva. Wandi did not lose his next fight after fighting Hendo. Hendo WAS his last fight. Wandi had lost to Cro Cop in his fight prior to fighting Hendo.

[quote comment=”201087″]i’ll be pulling for chuck big time in this one…he needs this, three losses in a row, would put a big stain on his brilliant career[/quote]

I, myself will be rooting for the Axe Murderer in this fight. To be quite honest, I’ve had enough of having Chuck Liddell forced in my face. Its time for him to move over and let the new wave of MMA stars shine. Especially now that Randy is now no longer apart of the UFC (who knows what 4pm will hold). Am I a fan of Chuck - of course, but he has never been among my favorite fighters. I want Wanderlei to KO Liddell and then get a rematch with Rampage. THAT is the fight that I want to see after Liddell/Silva. If Chuck wins, who will he fight? He won’t be ready for a #1 contender fight in my eyes. He would end up fighting a TUF winner.

[quote post=”3728″]henderson got lucky with the spining back fist against wandi…. [/quote]

In no way did that win Henderson the fight. There was zero luck involved in that fight. You can blame it on Wandi being sick with Strept throat days leading up to the fight, but luck? C’mon now.[/quote]
[quote comment=”201175″][quote comment=”201110″]Ive been watching Liddell for a long time. I have never seen him so cautious since the bell rang against Rampage Jackson. Hes has been way to over cautious. Both these guys better come out flying or this could be the most anticipated belly flop of a fight in the history of fighting. To be honest i cant say who’s gonna win. Wandi got KOed by Hendo recently and Liddell by Ranpage after both of em were on a long streak. then they both lose the next fight. its do or die for both. i hope it lives up to the hype.[/quote]

It sounds like you have indeed been watching Liddell for a long time, but appearantly not the same for Wanderlei Silva. Wandi did not lose his next fight after fighting Hendo. Hendo WAS his last fight. Wandi had lost to Cro Cop in his fight prior to fighting Hendo.

[quote comment=”201087″]i’ll be pulling for chuck big time in this one…he needs this, three losses in a row, would put a big stain on his brilliant career[/quote]

I, myself will be rooting for the Axe Murderer in this fight. To be quite honest, I’ve had enough of having Chuck Liddell forced in my face. Its time for him to move over and let the new wave of MMA stars shine. Especially now that Randy is now no longer apart of the UFC (who knows what 4pm will hold). Am I a fan of Chuck - of course, but he has never been among my favorite fighters. I want Wanderlei to KO Liddell and then get a rematch with Rampage. THAT is the fight that I want to see after Liddell/Silva. If Chuck wins, who will he fight? He won’t be ready for a #1 contender fight in my eyes. He would end up fighting a TUF winner.

[quote post=”3728″]henderson got lucky with the spining back fist against wandi…. [/quote]

In no way did that win Henderson the fight. There was zero luck involved in that fight. You can blame it on Wandi being sick with Strept throat days leading up to the fight, but luck? C’mon now.[/quote]

ViolentMike: Excellent post. I agree strongly with everthing that you said.

If chuck wins, I suspect Shogun will want to avenge wandy’s loss. A fight against Shogun (who is also comming off of a loss makes sense)

If wandy wins, it has been made public that wandy wants to avenge Shogun’s loss to griffin… so wandy vs. Griffin would make sense. Winner gets Rampage

There are many fights left for both wandy and Liddell win or loose. Both Liddell and Silva would be interesting to watch against:

Houston Alexander (if he continues to win)

Dan Henderson (Wandy and Hendo each hold a win against each other, a 3rd fight is inevitable, and Hendo would have fought Liddell if Chuck would have beaten Rampage)

Arona (a 3rd fight between Arona and wandy would be interesting because they each hold a win over the other, and its always great to see Chuck fight against top caliber wrestlers like Arona)

Forrest Griffin

Winner of Rashad vs. Bisping (eventhough in my oppinion the winner will be seriously outclassed against wandy or Liddell)

Machida because i wouldnt mind seeing Liddell or Wandy knock his freakin head off of his neck

]]> By: john http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201569 john Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:10:29 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201569 [quote comment="201146"]Big news. Dan Henderson announced possibly fighting on the UFC 79 card @ 185. I tried to post the link and source but keep getting blocked[/quote] FFL: This news is a fabrication. 1st off, Dan Henderson is a BIG name fighter. He is a HUGE asset to the UFC because he can headline any pay per view card at either 185 lbs or 205 lbs. This is Henderson's last fight on his current UFC contract. With that said, I believe that the UFC will put him up against another Big name opponent. He WILL NOT be fighting at 185 lbs in december because there aren't any big name opponents at 185 lbs that would be ready to fight in December. Franklin and Silva just fought, as did Okami and Mcdonald. That leaves only one possible opponent for him to face in that division, Nate marquardt. In my oppinion, I do not think Marquardt has a big enough NAME to entice Hendo into fighting him. Also UFC 79 NEMESIS is already a stacked card, with Serra vs. hughes for the title and Wandy vs. Liddell. No way in the world that cheap ass Dana white includes Hendo on that card. He will never give us 3 main event worthy matches on the same card. It would be nice, but it would be bad business on the UFC's part, and I can respect that. Fighters that could be ready to fight in January or Febuary against Hendo are: Shogun(if his knee heals by then) Tito (Hendo doesn't want to fight Tito because tito isn't on his level and a win against Tito does nothing to get Hendo back in title contention.. I agree with that) Machida (Personally, I hate Machida and I wouldnt rank him anywhere near the top 10, but the guy has millions of fans on his nutts because of his performances in other fights outside of the UFC...so his Name might be big enough to challenge Hendo) Forrest Griffin (His heart alone gives him a chance against anyone) Jardine (comming off a big win against the Iceman, a win against Hendo will have Jardine very close to a title shot) or a fighter people always forget is part of the UFC roster Arona [quote comment=”201146″]Big news. Dan Henderson announced possibly fighting on the UFC 79 card @ 185. I tried to post the link and source but keep getting blocked[/quote]

FFL: This news is a fabrication.

1st off, Dan Henderson is a BIG name fighter. He is a HUGE asset to the UFC because he can headline any pay per view card at either 185 lbs or 205 lbs. This is Henderson’s last fight on his current UFC contract. With that said, I believe that the UFC will put him up against another Big name opponent.

He WILL NOT be fighting at 185 lbs in december because there aren’t any big name opponents at 185 lbs that would be ready to fight in December. Franklin and Silva just fought, as did Okami and Mcdonald. That leaves only one possible opponent for him to face in that division, Nate marquardt. In my oppinion, I do not think Marquardt has a big enough NAME to entice Hendo into fighting him.

Also UFC 79 NEMESIS is already a stacked card, with Serra vs. hughes for the title and Wandy vs. Liddell. No way in the world that cheap ass Dana white includes Hendo on that card. He will never give us 3 main event worthy matches on the same card. It would be nice, but it would be bad business on the UFC’s part, and I can respect that.

Fighters that could be ready to fight in January or Febuary against Hendo are:

Shogun(if his knee heals by then)

Tito (Hendo doesn’t want to fight Tito because tito isn’t on his level and a win against Tito does nothing to get Hendo back in title contention.. I agree with that)

Machida (Personally, I hate Machida and I wouldnt rank him anywhere near the top 10, but the guy has millions of fans on his nutts because of his performances in other fights outside of the UFC…so his Name might be big enough to challenge Hendo)

Forrest Griffin (His heart alone gives him a chance against anyone)

Jardine (comming off a big win against the Iceman, a win against Hendo will have Jardine very close to a title shot)

or a fighter people always forget is part of the UFC roster Arona

]]> By: Ade http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201512 Ade Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:51:48 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201512 Difficult fight to call this looks like a toss up. Chuck had to be cautious against Rampage and Jardine, those guys are pure strikers with knockout power, and on the night they were the better fighters. Tito, Randy, Babalu, Horn are not strikers so Chuck could afford to take more risks and be more aggressive because he knew without doubt that the superior striking was with him. Chuck and Silva both have the ability to knock each other out, so it will be a case of who has the toughest chin on the night. Wandi is one of the most aggresive fighters out there and can some times be a bit reckless which is ideal for Chuck who waits for an oppening to counter punch. I am going for Wandi in this one though, because I think he might have the slightly tougher chin and he seems to display more of a variety of skills when he fights than Chuck does. Before Jardine and Rampage Chuck had not fought many serious strikers in a while and he could get away with waiting for that one punch, and has not really needed to use much of his other skills, but I think because he has not had to use his other skills in a long time is what will work against him. Chuck has lost to the last two strikers he has fought and I think Wandi will be the third. Either way we all know this is not going the distance, one of these two is going to get knocked out. It could all be over in the first round. I'm looking forward to it. Difficult fight to call this looks like a toss up. Chuck had to be cautious against Rampage and Jardine, those guys are pure strikers with knockout power, and on the night they were the better fighters. Tito, Randy, Babalu, Horn are not strikers so Chuck could afford to take more risks and be more aggressive because he knew without doubt that the superior striking was with him. Chuck and Silva both have the ability to knock each other out, so it will be a case of who has the toughest chin on the night. Wandi is one of the most aggresive fighters out there and can some times be a bit reckless which is ideal for Chuck who waits for an oppening to counter punch. I am going for Wandi in this one though, because I think he might have the slightly tougher chin and he seems to display more of a variety of skills when he fights than Chuck does. Before Jardine and Rampage Chuck had not fought many serious strikers in a while and he could get away with waiting for that one punch, and has not really needed to use much of his other skills, but I think because he has not had to use his other skills in a long time is what will work against him. Chuck has lost to the last two strikers he has fought and I think Wandi will be the third. Either way we all know this is not going the distance, one of these two is going to get knocked out. It could all be over in the first round. I’m looking forward to it.

]]> By: j http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201460 j Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:15:20 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201460 I meet Wanderlei Silva, nices gut you'll ever meet! He loves his fans. I meet Wanderlei Silva, nices gut you’ll ever meet! He loves his fans.

]]> By: jjdnb http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-concerned-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201354 jjdnb Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:11:01 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/30/ufc-quick-quote-liddell-not-conconced-about-third-straight-loss/#comment-201354 [quote post="3728"]Hopefully Chuck remembers he has more tools at his disposal than just his 2 fists[/quote] And what would that be, his beer belly? [quote post=”3728″]Hopefully Chuck remembers he has more tools at his disposal than just his 2 fists[/quote]

And what would that be, his beer belly?

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