Comments on: He said, she said: Happy Anniversary from the Couture’s http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/ UFC news, event schedules, fight analysis, Octagon predictions, UFC fighters and MMA thoughts Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:04:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Dana White and the Fertittas to hold press conference today (Tuesday) at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com (UFCmania.com) http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200968 Dana White and the Fertittas to hold press conference today (Tuesday) at UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com (UFCmania.com) Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:04:27 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200968 [...] Perhaps that discussion has taken place, which is the reason for the latest press conference later this afternoon. Or, the recent brouhaha that involved Couture and his wife on the X-Treme Couture MMA Blog was the final straw. [...] […] Perhaps that discussion has taken place, which is the reason for the latest press conference later this afternoon. Or, the recent brouhaha that involved Couture and his wife on the X-Treme Couture MMA Blog was the final straw. […]

]]> By: ruskie http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200881 ruskie Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:33:14 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200881 [quote comment="200710"][quote comment="200643"][quote comment="200601"][quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote] they've accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote] Oh gee - i dunno - maybe because was going bankrupt??? lol Make the connection. UFC = still going strong. PRIDE = dead (and not bc UFC killed it either - it was dying long before they bought it - that's WHY they were able to buy it so easily).[/quote] PRIDE accepted such risk when it was still STRONG... [quote comment=”200710″][quote comment=”200643″][quote comment=”200601″][quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote]

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote]
Oh gee - i dunno - maybe because was going bankrupt??? lol Make the connection. UFC = still going strong. PRIDE = dead (and not bc UFC killed it either - it was dying long before they bought it - that’s WHY they were able to buy it so easily).[/quote]

PRIDE accepted such risk when it was still STRONG…

]]> By: Pat http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200764 Pat Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:00:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200764 [quote comment="200611"][quote comment="199445"]Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn't let anybody play with his toys?[/quote] To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn't a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don't understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy's the idiot that signed a contract that he didn't like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn't change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right.[/quote] Why the hell would somebody fight if their heart is not into it? There are two probable results: 1. He will get hurt in the match. 2. He will be very cautious and the fight will be boring. So you would rather pay $40 for a PPV, expecting a great fight, and then it turns out to be a dud? Happy spending. [quote comment=”200611″][quote comment=”199445″]Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn’t let anybody play with his toys?[/quote]
To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn’t a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don’t understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy’s the idiot that signed a contract that he didn’t like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn’t change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right.[/quote]

Why the hell would somebody fight if their heart is not into it? There are two probable results:

1. He will get hurt in the match.

2. He will be very cautious and the fight will be boring.

So you would rather pay $40 for a PPV, expecting a great fight, and then it turns out to be a dud? Happy spending.

]]> By: EdenMachine http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200710 EdenMachine Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:00:10 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200710 [quote comment="200643"][quote comment="200601"][quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote] they've accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote] Oh gee - i dunno - maybe because was going bankrupt??? lol Make the connection. UFC = still going strong. PRIDE = dead (and not bc UFC killed it either - it was dying long before they bought it - that's WHY they were able to buy it so easily). [quote comment=”200643″][quote comment=”200601″][quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote]

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote]
Oh gee - i dunno - maybe because was going bankrupt??? lol Make the connection. UFC = still going strong. PRIDE = dead (and not bc UFC killed it either - it was dying long before they bought it - that’s WHY they were able to buy it so easily).

]]> By: ruskie http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200661 ruskie Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:46:56 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200661 [quote comment="200655"][quote comment="200643"][quote comment="200601"][quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote] they've accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote] When Dana and the UFC gives fighters a contract for guaranteed cash, they do so based on the marketability of the fighter, which allows them to recoup their investment price. If a fighter takes many millions of dollars, as Fedor would have required, and subsequently injured himself in an event outside the UFC, Dana would not be able to market the fighter, as he would be unable to fight. Thus, Dana and the UFC would lose money, and that just isn't how successful businesses operate.[/quote] Sorry, but I disagree with you, man. Risk taking is a part of a successful business, in general. Second, Dana would not lose any money, 'cos ppl would wait for Fedor's recovery and pay to see him fight. Similar situation happen in PRIDE with Arona in 2003, when he broke his ankle right before his fight with Jackson... [quote comment=”200655″][quote comment=”200643″][quote comment=”200601″][quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote]

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote]
When Dana and the UFC gives fighters a contract for guaranteed cash, they do so based on the marketability of the fighter, which allows them to recoup their investment price. If a fighter takes many millions of dollars, as Fedor would have required, and subsequently injured himself in an event outside the UFC, Dana would not be able to market the fighter, as he would be unable to fight. Thus, Dana and the UFC would lose money, and that just isn’t how successful businesses operate.[/quote]

Sorry, but I disagree with you, man. Risk taking is a part of a successful business, in general. Second, Dana would not lose any money, ‘cos ppl would wait for Fedor’s recovery and pay to see him fight. Similar situation happen in PRIDE with Arona in 2003, when he broke his ankle right before his fight with Jackson…

]]> By: pw http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200655 pw Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:36:06 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200655 [quote comment="200643"][quote comment="200601"][quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote] they've accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote] When Dana and the UFC gives fighters a contract for guaranteed cash, they do so based on the marketability of the fighter, which allows them to recoup their investment price. If a fighter takes many millions of dollars, as Fedor would have required, and subsequently injured himself in an event outside the UFC, Dana would not be able to market the fighter, as he would be unable to fight. Thus, Dana and the UFC would lose money, and that just isn't how successful businesses operate. [quote comment=”200643″][quote comment=”200601″][quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote]

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?[/quote]
When Dana and the UFC gives fighters a contract for guaranteed cash, they do so based on the marketability of the fighter, which allows them to recoup their investment price. If a fighter takes many millions of dollars, as Fedor would have required, and subsequently injured himself in an event outside the UFC, Dana would not be able to market the fighter, as he would be unable to fight. Thus, Dana and the UFC would lose money, and that just isn’t how successful businesses operate.

]]> By: ruskie http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200643 ruskie Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:25:21 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200643 [quote comment="200601"][quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote] they've accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC? [quote comment=”200601″][quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.[/quote]

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?

]]> By: EdenMachine http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200611 EdenMachine Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:01:40 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200611 [quote comment="199445"]Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn't let anybody play with his toys?[/quote] To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn't a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don't understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy's the idiot that signed a contract that he didn't like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn't change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right. [quote comment=”199445″]Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn’t let anybody play with his toys?[/quote]
To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn’t a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don’t understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy’s the idiot that signed a contract that he didn’t like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn’t change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right.

]]> By: Big House http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200609 Big House Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:01:18 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200609 We have a serious lack of class here. Someone needs to squash this fast. We have a serious lack of class here. Someone needs to squash this fast.

]]> By: PW http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200601 PW Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:49:45 +0000 http://mmamania.com/2007/10/28/he-said-she-said-happy-anniversary-from-the-coutures/#comment-200601 [quote comment="200594"][quote comment="200405"]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn't stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote] They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote] I didn't mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events. [quote comment=”200594″][quote comment=”200405″]Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.[/quote]

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.[/quote]
I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.

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