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		<title>By: dwid</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all about the money, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all about the money, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: pgam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pgam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes  dana is  entitled  to  just  offer the   nog   fight  or  let  him   retire.
legally  that   seems  to  be  correct.
but MORALLY
he  should  make an   exception for  the  randy fedor fight.
it&#039;s not  like  all  the  low  tier  fighters are suddenly going to  expect contract  flexibility  like   couture - although  they  should  have    union and  get  dental  plans  for their families - shit   some   supermarkets  offer  better  benifits - but that&#039;s   for   another  day....

So  big  hairy  deal,
 a  few  belt  holders might   wanna take a risky challenge by fighting  the  sokoudjous , or  fedors (other  great  fighters who are  not  in  UFC)

*** rampage or shogun or forest  vs. Sokoudjou - how awesome   would   those  be
*** Barnett or or Hunt  vs. either Napao or  Kongo or Couture or  Sylvia

so  yea,
dear dana,
just  so  you  know  you you  have  enough $$$$$$
Stop playing the  big  PADRE and maintaining that you are legally in the  right (you  are - we  dont  care)

Go   with  the  spirit !!!!!

it&#039;s guys like  couture who bring  fans -  not you - that&#039;s  not  an  insult   just  the  reality.

stop acting  like  the   big   padre and  say - &#039;i  don&#039;t  have  to   do this,  i&#039;m  not  gonna be  obliged to do this  again,  but lets have  fedor vs.  randy&#039;

actually, you  could  give half  the money  to  charity  and   randy,  fedor  and  dana  and  the  ufc  and M1 wouldn&#039;t   feel  a  thing.

i  wonder as  much  as i  respect  fedor and  randy  if  all  of  them  including  M1/UFC  are  just  doing  all this   for  hype  knowing  that  when  the  news  breaks  that  the   fight  is  on  it&#039;ll  be  even   bigger.

if  fedor  actually  lostit  woulnt  be  great  for M1 , but it  would  still be good  cause  their   first  big  event  would  turn  on a  lot of  new  fans. for  UFC it would  be  awesome even if  Fedor clobbers  Randy cause the  2  are honourable fighters/persons and  it&#039;d be  great  for the  sport. uFC&#039;s is  

anyway, i&#039;m  not  gonna  waste more  time  waiting to  see  what  happens.
i&#039;d  rather   get  off this  computer  and  go  get   some F&#039;n   exercise in the  park   with the  kidz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes  dana is  entitled  to  just  offer the   nog   fight  or  let  him   retire.<br />
legally  that   seems  to  be  correct.<br />
but MORALLY<br />
he  should  make an   exception for  the  randy fedor fight.<br />
it&#8217;s not  like  all  the  low  tier  fighters are suddenly going to  expect contract  flexibility  like   couture &#8211; although  they  should  have    union and  get  dental  plans  for their families &#8211; shit   some   supermarkets  offer  better  benifits &#8211; but that&#8217;s   for   another  day&#8230;.</p>
<p>So  big  hairy  deal,<br />
 a  few  belt  holders might   wanna take a risky challenge by fighting  the  sokoudjous , or  fedors (other  great  fighters who are  not  in  UFC)</p>
<p>*** rampage or shogun or forest  vs. Sokoudjou &#8211; how awesome   would   those  be<br />
*** Barnett or or Hunt  vs. either Napao or  Kongo or Couture or  Sylvia</p>
<p>so  yea,<br />
dear dana,<br />
just  so  you  know  you you  have  enough $$$$$$<br />
Stop playing the  big  PADRE and maintaining that you are legally in the  right (you  are &#8211; we  dont  care)</p>
<p>Go   with  the  spirit !!!!!</p>
<p>it&#8217;s guys like  couture who bring  fans &#8211;  not you &#8211; that&#8217;s  not  an  insult   just  the  reality.</p>
<p>stop acting  like  the   big   padre and  say &#8211; &#8216;i  don&#8217;t  have  to   do this,  i&#8217;m  not  gonna be  obliged to do this  again,  but lets have  fedor vs.  randy&#8217;</p>
<p>actually, you  could  give half  the money  to  charity  and   randy,  fedor  and  dana  and  the  ufc  and M1 wouldn&#8217;t   feel  a  thing.</p>
<p>i  wonder as  much  as i  respect  fedor and  randy  if  all  of  them  including  M1/UFC  are  just  doing  all this   for  hype  knowing  that  when  the  news  breaks  that  the   fight  is  on  it&#8217;ll  be  even   bigger.</p>
<p>if  fedor  actually  lostit  woulnt  be  great  for M1 , but it  would  still be good  cause  their   first  big  event  would  turn  on a  lot of  new  fans. for  UFC it would  be  awesome even if  Fedor clobbers  Randy cause the  2  are honourable fighters/persons and  it&#8217;d be  great  for the  sport. uFC&#8217;s is  </p>
<p>anyway, i&#8217;m  not  gonna  waste more  time  waiting to  see  what  happens.<br />
i&#8217;d  rather   get  off this  computer  and  go  get   some F&#8217;n   exercise in the  park   with the  kidz</p>
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		<title>By: pgam</title>
		<link>http://mmamania.com/2007/10/26/randy-couture-press-conference-video/comment-page-3/#comment-204958</link>
		<dc:creator>pgam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually,  randy  and  fedor are going to  bare  knuckle in  kimbos  backyard  this   saturday  after   beer  and   pizza.
admission: pay  what  you  can..
  but there is  a  suggested cover of   5   bucks
GSP will  come  around   with  the  tip jar - no  pressure though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually,  randy  and  fedor are going to  bare  knuckle in  kimbos  backyard  this   saturday  after   beer  and   pizza.<br />
admission: pay  what  you  can..<br />
  but there is  a  suggested cover of   5   bucks<br />
GSP will  come  around   with  the  tip jar &#8211; no  pressure though</p>
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		<title>By: m.j.g.</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.j.g.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m rolling with randy because i can understand where he is coming from. BUT... and there is a BUT. millionaires really shouldn&#039;t complain. at least not publicly. the money he gets paid can feed Africa for a day. all i&#039;m saying is on a grand scale he can complain but complain while you are holding up your end of the bargain. whatever he agreed to in the contract was what he agreed to. that signature on that contract is your word. some say thats all we really have that is sacred. don&#039;t let your wife talk you into something crazy because we all know thats what really happened. randy doesn&#039;t even seem like the type to quit, yes QUIT, over money unless there is a outside influence whispering in his ear. he should have finished out his contract on TOP giving him more leverage to lobby for more money. sports is like that. the ufc is one big team. to sign free agents (pride fighters) to the team (ufc), you usually have to offer them a substantial amount of money to leave the team they are already on. usually more than the top guys that are already there. sad but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m rolling with randy because i can understand where he is coming from. BUT&#8230; and there is a BUT. millionaires really shouldn&#8217;t complain. at least not publicly. the money he gets paid can feed Africa for a day. all i&#8217;m saying is on a grand scale he can complain but complain while you are holding up your end of the bargain. whatever he agreed to in the contract was what he agreed to. that signature on that contract is your word. some say thats all we really have that is sacred. don&#8217;t let your wife talk you into something crazy because we all know thats what really happened. randy doesn&#8217;t even seem like the type to quit, yes QUIT, over money unless there is a outside influence whispering in his ear. he should have finished out his contract on TOP giving him more leverage to lobby for more money. sports is like that. the ufc is one big team. to sign free agents (pride fighters) to the team (ufc), you usually have to offer them a substantial amount of money to leave the team they are already on. usually more than the top guys that are already there. sad but true.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin f7</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin f7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is a sad ay in mma when a legend like couture leaves the sport under these terms... he is not mike tyson... he didn&#039;t bite somebodies ear off or cry like a baby like vince carter in toronto.... he was getting screwed and he took it for a long time for the love of the sport and he finaly had enough ...who could blame him ? i couldn&#039;t !!!! if the reality is that fighters are getting shafted by the ufc which it sounds like they are then let&#039;s hope they leave the ufc and go to other promotions that are out there... remember we all love our sports and athletes whether it is mma or nfl etc.. and will watch them on any chanel or ppv so screw the ufc if our/your fighter is fighting somewhere else... take the coorprate power away...we control thier success and demise... they know it so let&#039;s show it !!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a sad ay in mma when a legend like couture leaves the sport under these terms&#8230; he is not mike tyson&#8230; he didn&#8217;t bite somebodies ear off or cry like a baby like vince carter in toronto&#8230;. he was getting screwed and he took it for a long time for the love of the sport and he finaly had enough &#8230;who could blame him ? i couldn&#8217;t !!!! if the reality is that fighters are getting shafted by the ufc which it sounds like they are then let&#8217;s hope they leave the ufc and go to other promotions that are out there&#8230; remember we all love our sports and athletes whether it is mma or nfl etc.. and will watch them on any chanel or ppv so screw the ufc if our/your fighter is fighting somewhere else&#8230; take the coorprate power away&#8230;we control thier success and demise&#8230; they know it so let&#8217;s show it !!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 05:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy is a great man and will always be thought of in that way; he does a lot for our soldiers and I am sure we all can respect that.  That being said, Randy did not tell the full story of what he has made this year as documented by Zuffa, making $500,000 signing bonus ($250 up front and $250 if he fought, which he did) and considering the other duties and ppv money he made, this meant he was paid just under 2.9 mil for this year so far...

I also think it is odd that Couture knows exactly how much each fighter was paid or offered, as this is not public knowledge.  I would hate to think he is angry over whispered innuendo.

The truth is that there was a very big chance that Randy could have lost every heavyweight match he had starting with Sylvia.  If this had happened would he have been angry with his 2.9 million dollars?  Dana White was hiring a recently retired fighter who had lost two of his last fights with Chuck Liddell before retiring.  Now he is upset because he beat the odds at age 40  and wants to know why he isn&#039;t making more?  He was happy when he resigned with Zuffa but now is angry??  If he had a problem with his contract he could have fought one more fight and then told Dana he would not fight for anything less than 3 million a fight and probably could have gotten it.

I think Randy has already gotten offers in this range, he just didn&#039;t want to wait for 9 months and taken that last fight.

I can&#039;t help but think that someone has been whispering in Randy&#039;s ear and telling him he is being screwed, when he was given a chance of a lifetime considering he was coming out of retirement on a losing record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy is a great man and will always be thought of in that way; he does a lot for our soldiers and I am sure we all can respect that.  That being said, Randy did not tell the full story of what he has made this year as documented by Zuffa, making $500,000 signing bonus ($250 up front and $250 if he fought, which he did) and considering the other duties and ppv money he made, this meant he was paid just under 2.9 mil for this year so far&#8230;</p>
<p>I also think it is odd that Couture knows exactly how much each fighter was paid or offered, as this is not public knowledge.  I would hate to think he is angry over whispered innuendo.</p>
<p>The truth is that there was a very big chance that Randy could have lost every heavyweight match he had starting with Sylvia.  If this had happened would he have been angry with his 2.9 million dollars?  Dana White was hiring a recently retired fighter who had lost two of his last fights with Chuck Liddell before retiring.  Now he is upset because he beat the odds at age 40  and wants to know why he isn&#8217;t making more?  He was happy when he resigned with Zuffa but now is angry??  If he had a problem with his contract he could have fought one more fight and then told Dana he would not fight for anything less than 3 million a fight and probably could have gotten it.</p>
<p>I think Randy has already gotten offers in this range, he just didn&#8217;t want to wait for 9 months and taken that last fight.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that someone has been whispering in Randy&#8217;s ear and telling him he is being screwed, when he was given a chance of a lifetime considering he was coming out of retirement on a losing record.</p>
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		<title>By: johnyjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnyjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like its about the Zero&#039;s, after watching UfC and Dana White Press Conferance, I&#039;m disappointed in Randy. Another high paid pro athlete unhappy. Thats why I stopped watching football and baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like its about the Zero&#8217;s, after watching UfC and Dana White Press Conferance, I&#8217;m disappointed in Randy. Another high paid pro athlete unhappy. Thats why I stopped watching football and baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a liar, geez he sounds sooo petty to me and is no were near as honorable and classy as I previously thought.  He made a cool 2.9 million for 2 fights in 2007 and is the second highest paid fighter in the ufc, come on randy since 2002 he&#039;s never won more than 2 fights in a row,lost to chuck twice and expects the red carpet and ass kiss&#039;s from dana???  get real, sounds like he&#039;s gone a bit nuts in his old age, too many hits to the head.  Dana should offer him the nog fight, if he refuses let him retire they&#039;ll do just fine with out him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a liar, geez he sounds sooo petty to me and is no were near as honorable and classy as I previously thought.  He made a cool 2.9 million for 2 fights in 2007 and is the second highest paid fighter in the ufc, come on randy since 2002 he&#8217;s never won more than 2 fights in a row,lost to chuck twice and expects the red carpet and ass kiss&#8217;s from dana???  get real, sounds like he&#8217;s gone a bit nuts in his old age, too many hits to the head.  Dana should offer him the nog fight, if he refuses let him retire they&#8217;ll do just fine with out him.</p>
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		<title>By: dman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;195582&quot;][quote comment=&quot;195572&quot;]I just find it REALLY hard to feel sorry for millionaires.  Poor baby has to buy his own event tickets. :( whhhaaa sniffle  Poor baby only made $600,000 dollars this year for fighting two fights boo hooo - but oh yeah, which made thousands of people flood into his gyms and buy his Extreme Couture clothing products and watch, I&#039;m sure, an AWFUL Scorpion King part II movie which of course throws him up and over making a cool $2 million for the year but hey, the poor guy didn&#039;t get any tickets for his wife&#039;s third cousins.

YOU&#039;RE A MILLIONAIRE!!!!!!! SHUT UP AND FIGHT!!!!![/quote]

How much money did he bring in for Zuffa?  Two sold out and big selling PPV events made UFC how many million dollars? When you are the reason people are buying PPV events and tickets you deserve a level of respect.  You can&#039;t just toss anyone in the ring and get asses in the seats like a big name guy like Couture can.[/quote]

Guess what, McDonald&#039;s makes millions off of their product too and the employees do all the work at around minimum wage. Welcome to America baby....it&#039;s called free enterprise. If he didn&#039;t have the UFC to promote him as the &quot;living legend&quot; and have him in the UFC hall of fame, allow him to host the shows, let him guest appear on other shows and everything else he gets because he is known through the UFC then he would just be another fighter looking to break through. The UFC made him popular...not the other way around. Take your millions and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="195582"][quote comment="195572"]I just find it REALLY hard to feel sorry for millionaires.  Poor baby has to buy his own event tickets. <img src='http://mmamania.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  whhhaaa sniffle  Poor baby only made $600,000 dollars this year for fighting two fights boo hooo &#8211; but oh yeah, which made thousands of people flood into his gyms and buy his Extreme Couture clothing products and watch, I&#8217;m sure, an AWFUL Scorpion King part II movie which of course throws him up and over making a cool $2 million for the year but hey, the poor guy didn&#8217;t get any tickets for his wife&#8217;s third cousins.</p>
<p>YOU&#8217;RE A MILLIONAIRE!!!!!!! SHUT UP AND FIGHT!!!!![/quote]</p>
<p>How much money did he bring in for Zuffa?  Two sold out and big selling PPV events made UFC how many million dollars? When you are the reason people are buying PPV events and tickets you deserve a level of respect.  You can&#8217;t just toss anyone in the ring and get asses in the seats like a big name guy like Couture can.[/quote]</p>
<p>Guess what, McDonald&#8217;s makes millions off of their product too and the employees do all the work at around minimum wage. Welcome to America baby&#8230;.it&#8217;s called free enterprise. If he didn&#8217;t have the UFC to promote him as the &#8220;living legend&#8221; and have him in the UFC hall of fame, allow him to host the shows, let him guest appear on other shows and everything else he gets because he is known through the UFC then he would just be another fighter looking to break through. The UFC made him popular&#8230;not the other way around. Take your millions and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: jman</title>
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		<dc:creator>jman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Randy makes some points and &quot;feels&quot; he&#039;s been wrong. No matter what he&#039;ll always feel wronged and that will never change. 
Dana and the brothers have paid Pride fighters a lot but none more then Randy! Randy did get a signing bonus and did get a the win bonus after GG. Did Randy get paid enough in general? Maybe, maybe not thats up to Randy to decide and he thought no. 
Could Dana the bros pay the fights more, Hell YES but are the fighters happy with what they have? HELL YES. 
If anyone should be b1tchey it should be Keith Jardine. He got paid less then $20,000 grand for beating Chuck. 
Randy should&#039;ve taken the 3million for Fedor and UFC should&#039;ve let him do it and come back. There are a lot of should&#039;ve wouldas in this that didn&#039;t happen. 
UFC isn&#039;t in the wrong on how the handled Randy but are in the wrong on how the handle all the fighters. They are getting better as the sport grows. 
BTW whoever said GG only last because Randy headbutting him is smoking something. Randy had control all through the fight way before the headbutt happened. put down the pipe and come to reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Randy makes some points and &#8220;feels&#8221; he&#8217;s been wrong. No matter what he&#8217;ll always feel wronged and that will never change.<br />
Dana and the brothers have paid Pride fighters a lot but none more then Randy! Randy did get a signing bonus and did get a the win bonus after GG. Did Randy get paid enough in general? Maybe, maybe not thats up to Randy to decide and he thought no.<br />
Could Dana the bros pay the fights more, Hell YES but are the fighters happy with what they have? HELL YES.<br />
If anyone should be b1tchey it should be Keith Jardine. He got paid less then $20,000 grand for beating Chuck.<br />
Randy should&#8217;ve taken the 3million for Fedor and UFC should&#8217;ve let him do it and come back. There are a lot of should&#8217;ve wouldas in this that didn&#8217;t happen.<br />
UFC isn&#8217;t in the wrong on how the handled Randy but are in the wrong on how the handle all the fighters. They are getting better as the sport grows.<br />
BTW whoever said GG only last because Randy headbutting him is smoking something. Randy had control all through the fight way before the headbutt happened. put down the pipe and come to reality.</p>
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