Ah just like Fedor, I am Number 1!

Hughes is such a competitor and doesnt like to lose, I dont blame him. No worries brah you can deal with all that anxiety in the first round with Serra and take it out on him then !

I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.

matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]
? lets just start with serra, Then we will talk about anderson, and pierre.

[quote comment="193184"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.[/quote]
Interesting question. The dude who messed up his leg and folded up like a chair in battle is shown rolling on the mat very healthy. I think you bring up a valid point. I am inclined to think they are building the drama.

But then again, with Serra running his mouth – maybe not.

OMG .. Barrera has the best ground and pound ever .. That stare is evil…

Finally there is BLOOD

who won fight i was wtachign world series

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

LOL!!!

Herb Dean the worst ref in UFC. Lets them run around, and just wait around.

anybody have like some cottage cheese or cheetos????

it is kinda sad to see hughes unveiled as so unprofessional because he was truly a great champ. I don’t know if Serra can beat him in the octagon, but he is obviously the better MAN. Doesn’t matter as GSP will bitch slap hughes again anyway

I hope Serra kills Hughes! Of course all of hughes guys have lost because they haven’t listened to him… Then he blames the judges on tonights fight? It was a close fight the first round. For next weeks preview hughes is talking like he doesn’t want to be there any more? At least Serra congratulated the other fighter on a close fight…

How dare you censor an internet site?! How about having the balls to deal with real life, and not using big brother tactics to only allow opinions you agree with.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

LMAO!!!

[quote comment="193274"][quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

LOL!!![/quote]

That must be Matt Hughes talking about himself in the third person. As Matt Serra would say, “What an ass.”

I thought I was a pretty good judge of a fight. Am I crazy or did Barrera win round one? Am I missing something in how they judge a fight. I wonder if any of these guys were judging the Bisping fight? Seriously, I would love to know. Just a thought.

So, now Serra gets to pick the quarter finals, and Hughes is pissing his pants because he’s losing. First, Hughes needs to get his team together and quit beating the crap out of them, because it’s pretty obvious it’s the stress he put on his guys is wrecking them mentally and physically. Get some balls, man. If your guys keep losing, it might not be just because they’re not “following the game plan.” And I just want to give Dana props for giving both fighters the 5 grand, i think it should have gone to third round.

I [quote comment="193184"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.[/quote]
think you may have something with the fight lineup. Very interesting. I’ll watch closer next time.

[quote comment="193231"][quote comment="193184"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.[/quote]
Interesting question. The dude who messed up his leg and folded up like a chair in battle is shown rolling on the mat very healthy. I think you bring up a valid point. I am inclined to think they are building the drama.[/quote]

Alot of the footage is not in a linear timeline they piece it together to fit the show, e.g. if two fighters that fight are having a fued they will take footage from the whole to fit the theme of that show. e.g. the footage of bowman on the last show annoying mac is probably from all over the six weeks, they have alot of footage.

who won?

Gotta say that I really didn’t see too much of a scoring contraversy. I mean yes Dan had one big punch in the first round but if you re-watch it as I did that was all he really had. Ben had a much more technical knee that landed flush. Really both were great strikes and the only differance was that Ben’s hit while Dan was moving in so he took a step back but didn’t fall, Dan’s hit was while Ben was at a distance and moving back and he fell. Bottom line is that neither fighter was seriously hurt or knock out by the very well placed strike (Ben attempted an armbar adn was laughing after his). If a fighter is stunned on his feet for a two seconds adn recovers or stunned and falls for two seconds adn recovers there shouldn’t be a differance so I think the judges got that right. And even if you think Dan’s big strike was closer to a knock out then Ben’s knee, Dan did nothing else for the round while Ben pressed teh action and landed more kicks and punches.

I’ve been training a while with guys who I know are much better than I am and yet occasionaly I’ll get a luck dodge and land a clean nice shot. That doesn’t mean I’m better than them or that they didn’t kick my butt even though they didn’t land as nice a shot becuase I’m backing up and covering up. There are plenty of problems with the current scoring system but not giving a round to a guy who landed only one or two shots is not it.

Plus that second round easily could have been 10-8. Ben killed him in that round. Again I think its bias, if he landed even on shot that even tripped Dan to the ground he might have gotten it. But because Dan was a well conditioned athlete that could stand while being 7/8ths knocked out he got to continue while a less conditioned (but more skilled) fighter would have lost that round if he fell only 1/2 knocked out. Plus those severe cuts could have ended it.

In my mind the biggest problem was Herb Dean. That was horrible job by him and he’s had a few bad ones now. What in the world was with constantly letting two fighters (one on the ground and one standing) who aren’t pressing the action stay there as long as they want. After a few seconds when its obvious that Dan’s not goign to press and Ben just wants to get up WHY THE HELL WAIT, just stand them up. THEN THE WORST THING I’VE EVER SEEN, STOPPING THE FIGHT TO ASK A DAZED FIGHTER IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE AND GIVING HIM TIME TO RECOVER!! If a fighter is in trouble you stop the damn fight and if he’s not you stay right on top of it and wait till the nano second he is and then stop it. You don’t hand him an unfair advantage of extra recovery time.

[quote comment="193318"]who won?[/quote]

Nobody should of won, it should of went to Round 3.

Ben Saunders won Majority Vote over Dan Barrera.

Damn, all my Kentucky/Ohio guys are out already!

I thought Dan was a wrestler? Thats the way they showed him, always wearing the ear protectors as wrestlers do, and it seemed like he was alaways sprawling. Made no sense why he did not take him down.

You know, I gotta say I was actually into this fight. This season has been so-so. But tonight was different. The whole time I was yelling at my t.v. “the knees bro! watch the knees! The guy would just not listen to me.

[quote post="3691"]Nobody should of won, it should of went to Round 3.
Ben Saunders won Majority Vote over Dan Barrera.[/quote]

Ben is a wicked striker though, and he definitely won the 2nd round. I think it should have gone to a 3rd round, but honestly, barrera couldn’t even see he was bleeding so bad.

It should have gone to a round three, but I think the way the second round was going Dan was minutes away from being knocked out. He is so one-dimensional. All he could do was punch and half the times he was punching when there was six feet of distance between the two.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

and then you wake up

and yes of course it was split rounds. The judge that Hughes was yelling at was like “come on Matt” It made me laugh.

Not that I think Serra’s IQ is through the roof but I’m questioning what goes on in hughes mind. he constantly underestimates the opponent (he hasn’t met a fight for his team yet that he didn’t “love teh matchup). Then he overtrains his guys and lastly he really doesn’t offer any great advice during the matches. You can hear Serra yelling helpful advice but I’m not sure I’ve heard hughes yet during a fight, you only hear him later when he berates someone for not doing what he wanted.

[quote post="3691"]You can hear Serra yelling helpful advice[/quote]
It would be hard not to. could hear hughes yelling his old stand by “that’s not the game plan”

[quote comment="193348"]Not that I think Serra’s IQ is through the roof but I’m questioning what goes on in hughes mind. he constantly underestimates the opponent (he hasn’t met a fight for his team yet that he didn’t “love teh matchup). Then he overtrains his guys and lastly he really doesn’t offer any great advice during the matches. You can hear Serra yelling helpful advice but I’m not sure I’ve heard hughes yet during a fight, you only hear him later when he berates someone for not doing what he wanted.[/quote]

you don’t hear him because, according to his last blog, he gets lawler to yell what he tells him to yell. i’m not sure about what goes on, but it seems to me like matt holds a pretty high place amongst his training brethren…to the point he’s on a much higher pedestal and can get them to do stupid shit like yell for him.

as far as hughes post fight sulking, it strikes me as ironic that a guy like him is throwing around the idea of quitting when he’s down. great example there matt, real championship attitude for sure.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]
Please. THis is the real world we’re talking about. I hope that was a joke.
It seemed like Barrera froze up during the fight. He wouldn’t engage when the ben went down, he just stood there and slapped at his feet. He should have backed off liuke hughes said or tried more take downs. i felt sorry after he said he left his fire man job but that was a choice he made in order to satisfy his need to be famous and his ego. Then he can pretend he’s not a narcissist by saying he’s religious. just Hughes. Watching himself in the mirror in the bathroom when he’s supposed to be training. Come on. He lost that fight. I don’t think it was that bad of a call by the judges.

I have not seen this yet but where is the outrage that the ref stopped a damn match to ask a dazed fighter if he wants to continue and asked him TWICE and gave him a ton of time to recover. I’ve never seen that before.

First of all Matt Hughes is a dick. He is a complete and utter dick. The fucking guy called himself “the queen” after making his team read a bible story with absolutely no respect for their beliefs because he’s a “giver”. If it weren’t for the UFC he would be a nurse or some crap because he just loves to help his fellow man so much. Awesome fighter. Worthless human being.

As far as this episode goes, I always thought MMA judges were washed up blackjack dealers, but I believe they might get them from classified ads. It probably would have been better for all involved if it went to a third round, but I give Dan the tfirst round but Round 2 could have been 10-8 for Ben. Either way Dana’s speech about “Don’t put it in the judges hands” comes out again. If you do what Rude Boy did, you don’t really have to worry about the judges.

Also, if you want to see a terrible decision, how about you look at the Bisping-Hamil fight.

Another side note: Dan’s wife seemed pretty hot, bu home girl is a fucking psycho. “I’m dying……..blah blah blah”

[quote comment="193406"]I have not seen this yet but where is the outrage that the ref stopped a damn match to ask a dazed fighter if he wants to continue and asked him TWICE and gave him a ton of time to recover. I’ve never seen that before.[/quote]

You hear Serra yelling “C’mon Ref”…
Hughes has a legitimate question asking;
“Where do you get your Referees from?”
The stupid smile on the fighter’s commissioner was priceless.

I meant ‘judges’ not referees…sorry

GOOOO TEAM SERRA

oh and u havent guess by now i live on Long Island. Serra’s 1st school is 2 mins from my house:)

There was no grave injustice here. That fight could easily have been judged a draw or a win for Ben. Fortunately for Dan, they gave the fight to Ben. Had the fight continued into the 3rd, Dan would have been beaten senseless and knocked out. Dan was nothing more than a punching bag in the 2nd round. Ben was clearly the better fighter.

GO SERRA GO

SERRA IS NO JOKE THEY SAID IF HE GETS HIS STANDUP GOOD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE IMPROVED BECAUSE HE KNOCKED OUT gsp, THAT HE WOULD ALMOST BE UNSTOPABLE

the fight was borderline being stopped throughout the 2nd… and besides 1 punch that dropped Ben… Dan ate knees, kicks and punches throughout the 1st.. plenty to win.

What’s up with Ben Sanders’ he’s 1 creepy dude.
“I’ll take your horses, your dog, your woman I’ll take care of them”

I feel for Dan Barrera, he gave up a lot, his job, plus has a wife freakin’ out from an anxiety attack at home, did he fold like Joey Scarola… “Hell no”.. he’s got an injured hand but doesn’t let that phase him at all.

Barrera has a wrestling background and boxed for a few years, he’s really tough, but he’s not a smart fighter, he resorts to brawling… he’s getting killed on stand up, mainly by knees and he never attempts a takedown and yet he has the ability to do so. In the 1st round he knocks Sander down and lets him recover by doing nothing, despite everyone yelling at him to stand back!

I think Dan’s failure to listen would piss off any coach, pisses me off..lol. It’s kind of remeniscient of Andy Wang’s failure to listen to BJ Penn.

I’m glad Dana gave them 5k ea., that was cool… he’s still a cheap bastard though.

[quote comment="193184"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.[/quote]

I’m fairly certain the fights are in chronological order, I’m not sure about everything else. I’m sure some of the confessionals and house politics are slightly out-of-order to build up the two guys that are fighting.

Matt Hughes is an idiot. I don’t care how good of a fighter he is, hes a shitty coach.

He’s sitting there after the show wondering what went wrong, did he choose wrong guys, etc.

here’s one for you Matt, maybe your shouldn’t have destroyed your fighter hand acting like an idiot, teaching him a lesson.

Not only is Serra a better coach, but his fighters are proving they respect him more. Not everyone has hat it takes to be a coach, Hughes should just fight, Serra should just coach.

[quote comment="193278"]anybody have like some cottage cheese or cheetos????[/quote]
Seriously! She’s 12 and like Cartman wants cheesy poofs as her last meal. Bless her heart.

That fight was brutal. How many kicks and knees to the head can a person take? The man has a steel plate in there.

what r u talking about sula alot of knees and kicks didn’t land cleany i think the judges should never b hired 2 judge mma again. it should have went 2 round 3.

[quote comment="193406"]I have not seen this yet but where is the outrage that the ref stopped a damn match to ask a dazed fighter if he wants to continue and asked him TWICE and gave him a ton of time to recover. I’ve never seen that before.[/quote]
Didn’t that happen in the UFC with Herb Dean a couple of events ago?

I thought that maybe they had the second round 10-8 because it Dan was jogging away and not really agressive at all. But I had to give him the second round.

Cottage cheese or cheetos was great!

The fight should have definately went to a 3rd round there’s no question, my point is that Barrera took alot punishment.

i liked saunders a lot, he is a huge ww with great stand up, nice kicks and a long reach, so far him and mac have been the best fighters to fight and win, we’ll see what these other guys got…

I’ll tell ya’ there’s a lot to be said about improvement in Hughes practices with what he teaches, how he communicates strategy with his guys etc… but I think it begins with his picks. Matt likes strong wrestlers, Serra likes juijitsu and takewondo type guys with quick hands or feet.

Serra mostly picked fighters based on their skills not on their muscles.

Hughes mostly picks brawlers, wrestler types. The more muscles he see’s the better he thinks they will perform.
Unfortunately for Hughes, there are no mini me’s in the bunch.

It’s easier to teach a fighter to defend against a wrestlers takedown than it is to train him in jujitsu and the complete standup game.

Serra’s a smart coach, he works with his fighters as individuals he recognizes that learning comes with a fresh mind… not a tired one, hence he doesn’t burn them out with conditioning in practice and focus’s on learning and strategy.

Matt was so confident about his picks too, like Serra was the idiot for picking the guys he did.

great show as the fight was close. plenty of hughes being hughes, i loved the fact the guy’s wife hadn’t eaten or slept in days and was asking whats wrong( basic needs food and sleep and shelter) and i love the fact we are week 5 or 6 into tuf and they still play the clip of serra saying get this guy off the fning show-lol i love ufc, now all they really need is a solid line up of ppvs, i think bisping will gass and rashard will tear it up and good luck to serra hughes needs to retire.

but why wait like 8 moths for a gsp remath either way gsp has already fought huges twice and lost to serra so where do we go if serra wins? humm love to keep it interesting

[quote comment="193583"]Matt was so confident about his picks too, like Serra was the idiot for picking the guys he did.[/quote]

what makes it funnier is how he still thinks he can win..lol…what a punk. Im glad saunders won – dan wth his beach muscles doesnt even look like a fighter, comes across as more of a poser

Matt Hughes is a punk, his fight with Serra will go 5 rounds, you heard it here 1st

Last nights fight was ok, I dont understand… If I was eatting leather standing I would take it to the ground.

Why didnt Dan just circle and scramble when he had ben down… or do a leap thingy?

He looked like he was shocked that he actually got the guy down.

Dans woman is psycho she is nuts… even if he quit his job there are always others floating around and he will get a few fights with the ufc (heck even wang got a fight…)

I expected more from dan.

Ben will likely make it to top 4. Serra favors him and will probably make him fight the pink haired guy (Shortie)

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll
fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

Wow is all I have to say to that, WOW!

TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….

I’m confused. First, I’m glad Dana gave out the bonus money. But to what standards must a fight reach to make it happen?This was NOT a great fight. Dan looked lost, running around the ring, not getting into Ben’s guard or letting him up (thus bringing the action to a grinding halt), getting asked TWICE if he wanted to continue. Ben fought intelligently, picking Dan apart from a distance, while Dan looked, well…..lost. I just don’t see that fight as being worth a fat bonus. If it was, EVERY fighter should get one.

[quote comment="193394"][quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote][/quote]

Hahahaha.
..you got some high hopes!

……….or your just high?

[quote comment="193583"]Matt was so confident about his picks too, like Serra was the idiot for picking the guys he did.[/quote]

It goes to show you even if Serra loses to Hughes on the PPV he still has a mental victory over him through the show. Even if one of Hughes fighter wins the whole thing at the end, Serra spent six weeks beating him and his picks. I personally feel Mac may be the winner(as much as I dislike him) but Hughes really only picked him becuse of all the experience, it is not like Hughes did anything or help him develop into the winner. Serra has been training guys for years has spent a good portion of his career as a coach. It shows to in how his fighters respect him. Hughes thought he was the man and coach of the year because he brought his team chicken wings and compared himself to Biblical characters(with that kind of ego I am surprised he can even fit through the cage entrance), lol. I heard Hughes has a bumper sticker on his car that says, “MY OTHER CAR IS MY EGO! Hughes is to much of a baby to take the time and get past the competion with Matt Serra and teach. It was like Shamrock and Ortiz. Shamrocks fighter suffered because Hamhock was to worried about fighting Ortiz at the end of the season. I think it is a shame that Hughes is spending all this mental effort and energy in beating Serra and the only people suffering for his OBVIOUS GOD COMPLEX are his fighters. What could he possibly or how is he going to teach his fighters, when he can not even teach them the basic rule of Humility. Hughes has spent so much time on top of the mountain that he apparently has forgotten what it takes to get up there in the first place.

[quote post="3691"]TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver —> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN[/quote]

BJ Penn only had 3 guys in the quarterfinals, 2 in the semis, and none in the finals.. Not exactly team domination for team Penn there.

Hughes will kill Serra

Well, I personally thought the fight was judged 90% correctly. I thought – First round to Dan 10-9; second to Ben 10-8; all Dan did in round two was run away. final score 19-18 Ben. same result.

Also, Herb Dean basically called the fight in round two, I believe. I have never seen the ref raise his hands “in the, its all over motion” and the fight continue. Man, they gotta do something about Herb, he has been involved in many “odd” situations/decisions.

Anyway, this season is the best, Hughes is gonna cry soon I think. This season really shows how much of a fool he is and I feel really bad for dudes that are gonna attend his school for real. I personally believe he has no idea how to coach: no in-fight advise, he rolls with his team when its time to “punish them”, Bible Studies, and he destroys Dan’s hand. WTF.

Anyway, head over to Matt’s Blog and read him totally contradict his closing statement from last nights ep. The dude is a total fool! I really hope he does fight Silva to get some free reconstructive surgery.

Jesse Holland is Hilarious man.. Great article, great episode. Yam bag, hadn’t heard that before.

[quote post="3691"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?[/quote]

MR.NC17, I definately think that they fights are shown in the same order that they happen on the show. Especially the first fight, and the final two of the first round. Plus, when the teams are stategizing on who to fight next, the always talk about who’s left on the other team to fight – and it has always matched up correctly with who is still left according to the order the fights were shown on TV. So I think that the fights are shown in the same order as they happen. But as Kiwi said above, the footage from the house in not necessarily in sequential order because they will focus in on whomever is fighting that week.

[quote post="3691"]I thought Dan was a wrestler? Thats the way they showed him, always wearing the ear protectors as wrestlers do, and it seemed like he was alaways sprawling. Made no sense why he did not take him down.[/quote]

My best answer to this would be that Dan is very inexperienced in MMA, only 1 fight, and Ben not only has good standup, but he also has a well versed ground game, according to Serra and himself. So that would lead me to believe that Dan thought that he would possibly get submitted on the ground with Ben. He had many opportunities to try and Ground and Pound but he chose not to. Unless you count quarter-ass punches to your opponents feet as GnP. Plus whenever he would have Ben on the ground and Dan was standing there, he corner would tell him to back up and let him up. So even his corner was fearful of him getting submitted. I think that he should have tried to take it to the ground and take that risk, especially in round 2 when he was getting dominated on the feet.

Is it just me or does Ben Saunders look like Sacha Baron Cohen? I kind of like him, but my favorite in the house and pick to win the whole thing is War Machine. From what I hear his stand-up is phenomonal and he is a tough tough dude. In the fight last night, I thought Dan won the first round, but the 2nd round could have been scored 10-8. I love how Dana said this was the worst judging he’s ever seen when it was just last month that the one he has a man-crush on was involved in the fight witht the worst judging ever.

[quote comment="193231"][quote comment="193184"]I was always wondering, do you think the fights they show on TV happen in that order? Or do you think they could mess around the fight order?

Because Hughes has 3 straight wins he must have to gain partial control of the finals. Do you think one of them loses first? But yet they show the two guys that win first to build it up for ratings?

herm?

Questions Questions.[/quote]
Interesting question. The dude who messed up his leg and folded up like a chair in battle is shown rolling on the mat very healthy. I think you bring up a valid point. I am inclined to think they are building the drama.[/quote]

All you have to see is the beat up faces of each fighter to know whether the fights are filmed in order. Blake looked like a raccoon so this episode took place after his fight.

pretty interesting to read thru: http://www.matt-hughes.com/

[quote comment="193299"]I thought I was a pretty good judge of a fight. Am I crazy or did Barrera win round one? Am I missing something in how they judge a fight. I wonder if any of these guys were judging the Bisping fight? Seriously, I would love to know. Just a thought.[/quote]
Barrera definately won the first round. The second round he did almost nothing! I was wondering why he wasn’t engaging and throwing anything. Matt Hughes has every right to question the judges.
[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]
You can wake up now.[quote comment="193254"]OMG .. Barrera has the best ground and pound ever .. That stare is evil…[/quote]

Yeah, and once he has you down, he’ll throw an occasional foot punch so they don’t stand the guy up.

I can’t wait for next week. Hughes is gonna beat his team up. And rightfully so. He’s the coach and is trying to help his team. Many of his fighters don’t listen to his instructions during the fight and they lose. He needs to straighten those guys up. He has two more chances to get his guys into the quarter finals.

Did Dan say he was a firefighter? If yes, what a crappy union local they have. Has this guy not heard of a 6-week Leave of Absence under the Collective Agreement? He says he quit his job to come on the show, don’t fall for all that crap, he just probably hated his job. A firefighter has a union and a leave of absence is a simple process in a union environment. Just ask Rob MacDonald who got an LOA as a Toronto Police officer to go on the show. Sure seniority matters, but let’s be honest, Dan is not just out of school (cheetos).

It makes me laugh that he pulled a fast one on Dana and said he quit his job like there was absolutely no choice. That perhaps helped him with scoring the additional 5K (aside from putting up a great fight).

Everyone remember in the end, it’s one big play, don’t get too caught up in it. The fights are real, but everything else is just one big edited joke. You guys all already know that though.

What a weird chick he’s got, “I’m dying, I’m dying because the devil is here, blah blah”. The girl is 21 years old. Watch her when she’s 40. C’mon producers give us something better than that. His remark, he didn’t say go to a doctor, he said eat cheetos.

[quote comment="193571"]I’ll tell ya’ there’s a lot to be said about improvement in Hughes practices with what he teaches, how he communicates strategy with his guys etc… but I think it begins with his picks. Matt likes strong wrestlers, Serra likes juijitsu and takewondo type guys with quick hands or feet.

Serra mostly picked fighters based on their skills not on their muscles.

Hughes mostly picks brawlers, wrestler types. The more muscles he see’s the better he thinks they will perform.
Unfortunately for Hughes, there are no mini me’s in the bunch.

It’s easier to teach a fighter to defend against a wrestlers takedown than it is to train him in jujitsu and the complete standup game.

Serra’s a smart coach, he works with his fighters as individuals he recognizes that learning comes with a fresh mind… not a tired one, hence he doesn’t burn them out with conditioning in practice and focus’s on learning and strategy.[/quote]

Excellent analysis Thorazine, exactly what I was thinking. Hughes thinks that imposing his will on his team and beating them up is going to make them perform better when they ahve a fight coming up the next day? Just stupid. Then for next weeks previews, when Hughes is complaining to Dana about his team, Dana tells him he says something along the lines of ‘You know what the answer is – beat the living shit of of them, bitch slap them.” Actually that’s precisely what Hughes has been doing and its one of the main reasons its not working. The other main reason, like Thorazine made clear above, is the way he went about picking his team. It’s like he’s trying to pick the guys that can be on the cover of some corny Men’s Fitness magazine instead of picking the ‘real fighters’.

After the judges scores were read last night, Dan said to Saunders “It was a 10-8 first round” What exactly did he mean by that? Did he seriously think he won the first round 10-8? He knocked Ben down once with a single punch, and Ben laughed at him. Other than that, Ben controlled the round. I can understand that Dan can think he won the round, 10-9, but thinking he won the first 10-8 is just crazy. If that’s the case, then he must think that Ben won the 2nd round 10-1.

[quote comment="193365"][quote post="3691"]You can hear Serra yelling helpful advice[/quote]
It would be hard not to. could hear hughes yelling his old stand by “that’s not the game plan”[/quote]
And Serra’s stand-by “breathe, Ben. You’ve been here befo-ah.”

Is there going to be a $10,000 ping-pong or pool game or something between Hughes and Serra so Serra can piss Hughes off that much more?

[quote comment="193473"]GOOOO TEAM SERRA

oh and u havent guess by now i live on Long Island. Serra’s 1st school is 2 mins from my house:)[/quote]
Go make sure that Joey’s bitch ass isn’t there. If he is you should kick him in the vagina.

[quote comment="193546"]That fight was brutal. How many kicks and knees to the head can a person take? The man has a steel plate in there.[/quote]

Yeah. Only one of the knees seemed to phase him. He took them all no problem.[quote comment="193783"]Last nights fight was ok, I dont understand… If I was eatting leather standing I would take it to the ground.

Why didnt Dan just circle and scramble when he had ben down… or do a leap thingy?

He looked like he was shocked that he actually got the guy down.

Dans woman is psycho she is nuts… even if he quit his job there are always others floating around and he will get a few fights with the ufc (heck even wang got a fight…)

I expected more from dan.

Ben will likely make it to top 4. Serra favors him and will probably make him fight the pink haired guy (Shortie)[/quote]

You’re referring to Richie Hightower, and he’ll KO Ben for sure.[quote comment="193885"]Is it just me or does Ben Saunders look like Sacha Baron Cohen? I kind of like him, but my favorite in the house and pick to win the whole thing is War Machine. From what I hear his stand-up is phenomonal and he is a tough tough dude. In the fight last night, I thought Dan won the first round, but the 2nd round could have been scored 10-8. I love how Dana said this was the worst judging he’s ever seen when it was just last month that the one he has a man-crush on was involved in the fight witht the worst judging ever.[/quote]

This season aired before the Bisping/Hammil fight. Did you think TUF is live? LoL

[quote comment="193479"]GO SERRA GO

SERRA IS NO JOKE THEY SAID IF HE GETS HIS STANDUP GOOD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE IMPROVED BECAUSE HE KNOCKED OUT gsp, THAT HE WOULD ALMOST BE UNSTOPABLE[/quote]

I wouldn’t call him a joke but I would call him an little man with a big man syndrome that had a punchers chance and got “Lucky”. No body is unstoppable.

Give Serra credit for being the better coach, he was pretty much the coach on the show where he was a contestant. We can barley hear Hughes give instructions to his guys while the little man can be heard out side the building.

[quote comment="193911"]Is there going to be a $10,000 ping-pong or pool game or something between Hughes and Serra so Serra can piss Hughes off that much more?[/quote]

How about a pasta eating contest? Serra will win that one.

[quote post="3691"]Give Serra credit for being the better coach, he was pretty much the coach on the show where he was a contestant. We can barley hear Hughes give instructions to his guys while the little man can be heard out side the building. [/quote]
Whatever you want to say about Serra’s personality or fighting ability, he is an excellent coach, easily the best on any TUF season. His guys are 5-1 this season, and I believe his team went 7-1 in the preliminary round on TUF 4 when he was kind of the de facto coach. If he splits the last two fights that would give him a record of 13-3 in the preliminary rounds for a .813 winning percentage. That’s John Wooden-esque.

I like how Dan said he wasn’t thinking when he didn’t let Ben up. I think that may be the root of his problem.

Dan’s wife is superhot..i knew there had to be something screwed up in her head. I hope she got better but damn, i’ld plow that till next year

[quote comment="193915"][quote comment="193473"]GOOOO TEAM SERRA

oh and u havent guess by now i live on Long Island. Serra’s 1st school is 2 mins from my house:)[/quote]
Go make sure that Joey’s bitch ass isn’t there. If he is you should kick him in the vagina.[/quote]

ROFL!!!!

Man here in good aul IRELAND we are 1 week behind the states, but i could’nt resist the temtation to read what happens, it was a dmn good read so i cant wait to see the mother fuckin fight , hell yeah — roll on monday !

[quote comment="193481"]the fight was borderline being stopped throughout the 2nd… and besides 1 punch that dropped Ben… Dan ate knees, kicks and punches throughout the 1st.. plenty to win.[/quote]

I have no problem with the decision because While I had the first round for Barrera I had Ben winning the second round 10-8. The ref almost stopped it.

I didn’t think the decision was bad at all. Ben did WAY more in the first, but only ate that one shot. Even if you gave that around to Dan, the second should have been 10-8. And even if it DID reach a third, the cut on his forehead might have stopped it anyway

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

Worst predictions EVER

thats WHat matt hughes face is going to look after he fights Serra.

Bad decision in my book it should have been a draw. Everyone is riding serra’s balls for being such a good sport and gentleman….guys he won 5 in a row, you really think he would be so cool and collected if he was the one losing 5 in a row? [quote comment="194034"][quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

Worst predictions EVER[/quote]
is it? serra t(ko)ed gsp, gonzago (ko)ed cro cop, randy dominated tim for 5 rounds I find it funny how in light of so many upsets things are still impossible. I personally think matt WILL destroy serra and have a feeling he might break his arm in this fight unlike the gracie fight. Nobody really knows whats going to happen but its possible for hughes to smash serra, catch gsp in a submsission(if he manages to get him down) and ground and pound anderson (tko). Hughes is a very dangerous fighter if he gets his opponent on the ground, and isn’t the joke most seem to think on this site. Only bj penn is a bad match up style wise for hughes, mainly because he’s rubber man and also gsp with his unreal take down defense and superior stand up. Look if serra managed to beat gsp why is it impossible for hughes too? I personally think hughes has a way better chance with anderson than serra had with gsp, style wise, anderson needs to fight and beat a superior wrestler like hendo,gsp,hughes,lindland for me to believe he’s so well rounded because I think wrestling is his biggest weakness.

You think Hughes is upset now? Wait until Serra beats him.

The last great upset of 2007 will be Serra beating Hughes.

Next year GSP will beat Serra in a rematch and eventually lose the belt to Jon Fitch.

[quote comment="194072"]You think Hughes is upset now? Wait until Serra beats him.

The last great upset of 2007 will be Serra beating Hughes.

Next year GSP will beat Serra in a rematch and eventually lose the belt to Jon Fitch.[/quote]
now thats a bad prediction.

[quote comment="193338"][quote post="3691"]Nobody should of won, it should of went to Round 3.
Ben Saunders won Majority Vote over Dan Barrera.[/quote]

Ben is a wicked striker though, and he definitely won the 2nd round. I think it should have gone to a 3rd round, but honestly, barrera couldn’t even see he was bleeding so bad.[/quote]

Even if Barerra won the first round, which is debatable, he lost the fight because I gave Ben the second round 10-8. Barerra did absolutely nothing that round but run away.

[quote comment="194080"][quote comment="193338"][quote post="3691"]Nobody should of won, it should of went to Round 3.
Ben Saunders won Majority Vote over Dan Barrera.[/quote]

Ben is a wicked striker though, and he definitely won the 2nd round. I think it should have gone to a 3rd round, but honestly, barrera couldn’t even see he was bleeding so bad.[/quote]

Even if Barerra won the first round, which is debatable, he lost the fight because I gave Ben the second round 10-8. Barerra did absolutely nothing that round but run away.[/quote]
Spot on.

Now that we know Serra will have control of the quarters, how do you think he will handle the matchups? Obviously some of it will depend on the next 2 prelims, but do you think he matches up one of his top guys with Mac, or does he feed Hightower to whoever he thinks has the best chance of winning?

[quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

didn’t jens pulver’s team dominate bj penn’s team? i think you got that one mixed up a bit, i mean, jens had both guys that were in the finals…

[quote comment="194064"]
is it? serra t(ko)ed gsp, gonzago (ko)ed cro cop, randy dominated tim for 5 rounds I find it funny how in light of so many upsets things are still impossible. I personally think matt WILL destroy serra and have a feeling he might break his arm in this fight unlike the gracie fight. Nobody really knows whats going to happen but its possible for hughes to smash serra, catch gsp in a submsission(if he manages to get him down) and ground and pound anderson (tko).[/quote]

Saying Hughes will beat Serra is very different than saying Hughes will finish Serra, GSP, AND Silva. The former is possible, even likely, the latter is just stupid. Sure, it’s not impossible, but just because it’s not impossible doesn’t mean that it’s not a stupid prediction.

[quote comment="194064"]Hughes is a very dangerous fighter if he gets his opponent on the ground, and isn’t the joke most seem to think on this site. Only bj penn is a bad match up style wise for hughes, mainly because he’s rubber man and also gsp with his unreal take down defense and superior stand up. Look if serra managed to beat gsp why is it impossible for hughes too? I personally think hughes has a way better chance with anderson than serra had with gsp, style wise, anderson needs to fight and beat a superior wrestler like hendo,gsp,hughes,lindland for me to believe he’s so well rounded because I think wrestling is his biggest weakness.[/quote]

First, I think a wrestler with good ground and pound has the best chance against Silva. Doesn’t mean ANY wrestler with good ground and pound. For example, it helps if he’s taller than 5′9″, because Silva has those long ass limbs. Also, a good stand-up or an iron chin is almost a necessity, things that Hughes doesn’t have (his chin isn’t bad).

Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.

Third, you’re assuming all of these fights will just happen. Hughes has already stated that he only has several more fights left in him. If he beats Serra and GSP, my thinking is that he’ll just retire as the greatest WW the UFC has ever seen, instead of taking the chance that his last fight would be a (devastating) loss against Silva.

Fourth, I don’t think many people on this site think Hughes’ fighting powers are a joke. Most people seem to just think he’s a dick. On the other hand, you seem to be wildly overestimating his skills. He got DOMINATED by GSP. Anderson Silva has destroyed everyone in a higher weight class. And you seem to think there is a valid chance that he can run the table on them. A guy who was unimpressive in his last fight (decision over Lytle) can now beat, no, I mean FINISH, Serra (better than Lytle and with a chip on his shoulder), GSP (a guy Hughes had no answers for), and Silva (no explanation needed).

Sure, it’s not IMPOSSIBLE, but it’s also not impossible that your significant other will choose to take a dump on your chest tonight. Does that mean it will happen?

Wait, don’t answer that.

[quote comment="194181"][quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

didn’t jens pulver’s team dominate bj penn’s team? i think you got that one mixed up a bit, i mean, jens had both guys that were in the finals…[/quote]

This is totally something that ESPN would bring up. We may soon know it was the “TUF Curse” or something along those lines.

Sorry: We may soon know it AS the “TUF Curse…”

[quote comment="193279"]it is kinda sad to see hughes unveiled as so unprofessional because he was truly a great champ. I don’t know if Serra can beat him in the octagon, but he is obviously the better MAN. Doesn’t matter as GSP will bitch slap hughes again anyway[/quote]

Hughes may be not as high on a pedastal as we might have like to see, but how can you say Serra is a better MAN when he was rejoicing in another man’s injury? I think he’s a punk. Hughes may be cocky, but he cares about the “team” concept and I’m sure he didn’t intentinally hurt dan’s hand, although I do admin it was a bad decision so close to fight time. I’m just saying you will never see Hughes rejoice if someone get’s hurt. That’s the lowest of the low.

[quote comment="194212"][quote comment="194181"][quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

didn’t jens pulver’s team dominate bj penn’s team? i think you got that one mixed up a bit, i mean, jens had both guys that were in the finals…[/quote]

This is totally something that ESPN would bring up. We may soon know it was the “TUF Curse” or something along those lines.[/quote]
its not over yet 2 of hughes guys might still end up fighting each other in the finals, don’t count your chickens before there hatched.

one of my favorite moments in ufc was watching gsp knock out matt big ego hughes cant wait to see serra do it again. Think Dan has a good future

[quote comment="193325"]Gotta say that I really didn’t see too much of a scoring contraversy. I mean yes Dan had one big punch in the first round but if you re-watch it as I did that was all he really had. Ben had a much more technical knee that landed flush. Really both were great strikes and the only differance was that Ben’s hit while Dan was moving in so he took a step back but didn’t fall, Dan’s hit was while Ben was at a distance and moving back and he fell. Bottom line is that neither fighter was seriously hurt or knock out by the very well placed strike (Ben attempted an armbar adn was laughing after his). If a fighter is stunned on his feet for a two seconds adn recovers or stunned and falls for two seconds adn recovers there shouldn’t be a differance so I think the judges got that right. And even if you think Dan’s big strike was closer to a knock out then Ben’s knee, Dan did nothing else for the round while Ben pressed teh action and landed more kicks and punches.

I’ve been training a while with guys who I know are much better than I am and yet occasionaly I’ll get a luck dodge and land a clean nice shot. That doesn’t mean I’m better than them or that they didn’t kick my butt even though they didn’t land as nice a shot becuase I’m backing up and covering up. There are plenty of problems with the current scoring system but not giving a round to a guy who landed only one or two shots is not it.

Plus that second round easily could have been 10-8. Ben killed him in that round. Again I think its bias, if he landed even on shot that even tripped Dan to the ground he might have gotten it. But because Dan was a well conditioned athlete that could stand while being 7/8ths knocked out he got to continue while a less conditioned (but more skilled) fighter would have lost that round if he fell only 1/2 knocked out. Plus those severe cuts could have ended it.

In my mind the biggest problem was Herb Dean. That was horrible job by him and he’s had a few bad ones now. What in the world was with constantly letting two fighters (one on the ground and one standing) who aren’t pressing the action stay there as long as they want. After a few seconds when its obvious that Dan’s not goign to press and Ben just wants to get up WHY THE HELL WAIT, just stand them up. THEN THE WORST THING I’VE EVER SEEN, STOPPING THE FIGHT TO ASK A DAZED FIGHTER IF HE WANTS TO CONTINUE AND GIVING HIM TIME TO RECOVER!! If a fighter is in trouble you stop the damn fight and if he’s not you stay right on top of it and wait till the nano second he is and then stop it. You don’t hand him an unfair advantage of extra recovery time.[/quote]

Totally agree with all of this except the 10-8. 10-8’s are very rare and usually that means the other guy barely made it through without landing hardly anything on the other guy. close maybe, but I personally wouldn’t have givin it a 10-8.

[quote comment="194181"][quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

didn’t jens pulver’s team dominate bj penn’s team? i think you got that one mixed up a bit, i mean, jens had both guys that were in the finals…[/quote]

That’s correct Spida. If my memory serves me correctly, Team Pulver won 5 and Team Penn 3 in the first round. That’s why teammates Nate Diaz and Cory Hill fought each other. Then the semi’s were Manny (Pulver) vs Lauzon (Penn) and Diaz (Pulver) vs Maynard (Penn). So it was 2-2 at that point. But Team Pulver won both of those fights for a Manny vs Diaz finale.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]

if this is the kind of reality that you actually deal with on a day to day basis. my suggestion is to listen to what the talking purple dragon is telling you and kill yourself ASAP.

if this is the kind of reality that you actually deal with on a day to day basis. my suggestion is to listen to what the talking purple dragon is telling you and kill yourself ASAP.[/quote]

LMAO, jus a tad harsh. I’ve been reading alot into Hughes bein a lil #@(*# regarding the losses. I really can’t hate him for that. I mean, at least he cares, unlike Shamrock. Also, as a novice of the sport, with 90% of the people calling Hughes a jerk, I think Serra comes off just as annoying. Is there something I miss regarding Hughes cuz I dont see where the criticism stems from?

I didn’t think that the decision was too controversial, but I think that the fight was entertaining and everyone just wanted to see a 3rd round.

I scored the 1st for Barrera, but it was close.

[quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

actually pulvers teams dominated penns. the 2 guys in the finals were pulvers!

[quote comment="194117"]Now that we know Serra will have control of the quarters, how do you think he will handle the matchups? Obviously some of it will depend on the next 2 prelims, but do you think he matches up one of his top guys with Mac, or does he feed Hightower to whoever he thinks has the best chance of winning?[/quote]

I don’t think Serra would play that game, feeding one of his weaker guys to the lion. But on the other hand he has to feed Hightower to someone?… I think Ben matches up best with Mac.

[quote comment="194192"][quote comment="194064"]
is it? serra t(ko)ed gsp, gonzago (ko)ed cro cop, randy dominated tim for 5 rounds I find it funny how in light of so many upsets things are still impossible. I personally think matt WILL destroy serra and have a feeling he might break his arm in this fight unlike the gracie fight. Nobody really knows whats going to happen but its possible for hughes to smash serra, catch gsp in a submsission(if he manages to get him down) and ground and pound anderson (tko).[/quote]

Saying Hughes will beat Serra is very different than saying Hughes will finish Serra, GSP, AND Silva. The former is possible, even likely, the latter is just stupid. Sure, it’s not impossible, but just because it’s not impossible doesn’t mean that it’s not a stupid prediction.

[quote comment="194064"]Hughes is a very dangerous fighter if he gets his opponent on the ground, and isn’t the joke most seem to think on this site. Only bj penn is a bad match up style wise for hughes, mainly because he’s rubber man and also gsp with his unreal take down defense and superior stand up. Look if serra managed to beat gsp why is it impossible for hughes too? I personally think hughes has a way better chance with anderson than serra had with gsp, style wise, anderson needs to fight and beat a superior wrestler like hendo,gsp,hughes,lindland for me to believe he’s so well rounded because I think wrestling is his biggest weakness.[/quote]

First, I think a wrestler with good ground and pound has the best chance against Silva. Doesn’t mean ANY wrestler with good ground and pound. For example, it helps if he’s taller than 5′9″, because Silva has those long ass limbs. Also, a good stand-up or an iron chin is almost a necessity, things that Hughes doesn’t have (his chin isn’t bad).

Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.

Third, you’re assuming all of these fights will just happen. Hughes has already stated that he only has several more fights left in him. If he beats Serra and GSP, my thinking is that he’ll just retire as the greatest WW the UFC has ever seen, instead of taking the chance that his last fight would be a (devastating) loss against Silva.

Fourth, I don’t think many people on this site think Hughes’ fighting powers are a joke. Most people seem to just think he’s a dick. On the other hand, you seem to be wildly overestimating his skills. He got DOMINATED by GSP. Anderson Silva has destroyed everyone in a higher weight class. And you seem to think there is a valid chance that he can run the table on them. A guy who was unimpressive in his last fight (decision over Lytle) can now beat, no, I mean FINISH, Serra (better than Lytle and with a chip on his shoulder), GSP (a guy Hughes had no answers for), and Silva (no explanation needed).

Sure, it’s not IMPOSSIBLE, but it’s also not impossible that your significant other will choose to take a dump on your chest tonight. Does that mean it will happen?

Wait, don’t answer that.[/quote]
Don’t bet on an MMA fight because you’ll lose, that’s all I have to say.

[quote comment="194369"]if this is the kind of reality that you actually deal with on a day to day basis. my suggestion is to listen to what the talking purple dragon is telling you and kill yourself ASAP.[/quote]

LMAO, jus a tad harsh. I’ve been reading alot into Hughes bein a lil #@(*# regarding the losses. I really can’t hate him for that. I mean, at least he cares, unlike Shamrock. Also, as a novice of the sport, with 90% of the people calling Hughes a jerk, I think Serra comes off just as annoying. Is there something I miss regarding Hughes cuz I dont see where the criticism stems from?[/quote]

A lot of it comes from TUF 2 as well as the way Hughes handled himself in the interviews with the GSP vs Hughes 2 and Serra made it very personal by pointing out a lot of Hughes character flaws in the way he treats people and his fighters, it’s gettin a little tiresome now. However, Hughes has toned it down a lot since then, so far, but he’s essentially the same guy.

first: you write way too much about nothing.

second: you don’t understand MMA math, it doesn’t work.

third: you misunderstood most of what I wrote.

forth: pull the diamond out of your arse.

[quote comment="194575"][quote comment="194369"]if this is the kind of reality that you actually deal with on a day to day basis. my suggestion is to listen to what the talking purple dragon is telling you and kill yourself ASAP.[/quote]

LMAO, jus a tad harsh. I’ve been reading alot into Hughes bein a lil #@(*# regarding the losses. I really can’t hate him for that. I mean, at least he cares, unlike Shamrock. Also, as a novice of the sport, with 90% of the people calling Hughes a jerk, I think Serra comes off just as annoying. Is there something I miss regarding Hughes cuz I dont see where the criticism stems from?[/quote]

-A lot of it comes from TUF 2 as well as the way Hughes handled himself in the interviews with the GSP vs Hughes 2 and Serra made it very personal by pointing out a lot of Hughes character flaws in the way he treats people and his fighters, it’s gettin a little tiresome now. However, Hughes has toned it down a lot since then, so far, but he’s essentially the same guy.[/quote]

I didn’t write the part beginning with LMAO… just this last paragraph beginning with “A lot.” somehow my comment got level with the 2nd comment

[quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.

Ben looks and acts like a tall, lanky Ross Gellar from freinds

[quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.

[quote comment="193745"][quote comment="193583"]Matt was so confident about his picks too, like Serra was the idiot for picking the guys he did.[/quote]

what makes it funnier is how he still thinks he can win..lol…what a punk. Im glad saunders won – dan wth his beach muscles doesnt even look like a fighter, comes across as more of a poser[/quote]
Posing in the mirror shadowboxing with his pants down while his whole team waits for him. I don’t like Hughes as a coach but he deserved that ass whoopin’ in training. Hughes just didn’t know how bad.

[quote comment="193848"]Also, Herb Dean basically called the fight in round two, I believe. I have never seen the ref raise his hands “in the, its all over motion” and the fight continue. Man, they gotta do something about Herb, he has been involved in many “odd” situations/decisions.

Anyway, this season is the best, Hughes is gonna cry soon I think. This season really shows how much of a fool he is and I feel really bad for dudes that are gonna attend his school for real. I personally believe he has no idea how to coach: no in-fight advise, he rolls with his team when its time to “punish them”, Bible Studies, and he destroys Dan’s hand. WTF.[/quote]
I thought Dean was gonna get the cuts on Dan’s head checked out or stop the fight. “Can you continue?” It’s MMA not boxing. Hughes totally sucks as a coach. This new H.I.T squad venture of his is gonna be interesting. He’ll get people in because of his name but what will actually be produced is very suspect.

[quote comment="193880"][quote post="3691"][quote post="3691"]I thought Dan was a wrestler? Thats the way they showed him, always wearing the ear protectors as wrestlers do, and it seemed like he was alaways sprawling. Made no sense why he did not take him down.[/quote]

My best answer to this would be that Dan is very inexperienced in MMA, only 1 fight, and Ben not only has good standup, but he also has a well versed ground game, according to Serra and himself. So that would lead me to believe that Dan thought that he would possibly get submitted on the ground with Ben. He had many opportunities to try and Ground and Pound but he chose not to. Unless you count quarter-ass punches to your opponents feet as GnP. Plus whenever he would have Ben on the ground and Dan was standing there, he corner would tell him to back up and let him up. So even his corner was fearful of him getting submitted. I think that he should have tried to take it to the ground and take that risk, especially in round 2 when he was getting dominated on the feet.[/quote]
Definatley- Ben was trying one submission after another from the second they hit the ground. Dan had no defense and didn’t want to go anywhere near it.

[quote comment="194216"][quote comment="193279"]it is kinda sad to see hughes unveiled as so unprofessional because he was truly a great champ. I don’t know if Serra can beat him in the octagon, but he is obviously the better MAN. Doesn’t matter as GSP will bitch slap hughes again anyway[/quote]

Hughes may be not as high on a pedastal as we might have like to see, but how can you say Serra is a better MAN when he was rejoicing in another man’s injury? I think he’s a punk. Hughes may be cocky, but he cares about the “team” concept and I’m sure he didn’t intentinally hurt dan’s hand, although I do admin it was a bad decision so close to fight time. I’m just saying you will never see Hughes rejoice if someone get’s hurt. That’s the lowest of the low.[/quote]
Come on man! Laughing at an injured hand is nothing. Serra was laughing more at the fact that he would have another 1 up on Hughes more than a fighter being injured. And forgive me but- Hughes may not have injured Dan’s hand intentionally- but he intentionally put a hurting on him did he not? Was he not laughing about it afterward? Quite frankly with all of the over training Dan was doing who’s to stay he didn’t hurt his own hand punching brick walls and garbage bins and shit. And last but not least – Serra has gone up to 2 or 3 of Matt’s guys after a fight and gives them props, a hug and pep talk about how they were going to come back and be better. Serra is a stand up guy- bottom line.

This shows the world 10 Point Must scoring is BULLSHIT and it’s gay…. pertaining to MMA

[quote comment="194219"]one of my favorite moments in ufc was watching gsp knock out matt big ego hughes cant wait to see serra do it again. Think Dan has a good future[/quote]
Dan has a future for sure. He has alot of heart and is willing to work hard. He just needs to balance himself out, get some boundaries (I felt like a crackhead just watching him- all that energy. That Jesus juice must be a hell of drug)and learn to listen. That fight was strange. He went into some weird zone that he couldn’t get out of…

[quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]
pulvers team did way better

[quote comment="194464"]I didn’t think that the decision was too controversial, but I think that the fight was entertaining and everyone just wanted to see a 3rd round.

I scored the 1st for Barrera, but it was close.[/quote]
i didnt want to see a 3rd. i think herb should have stopped it in the 2nd

whoever speculated that hughes vs gsp 3 would end with hughes dominating georges on the ground should seriously rethink that position. although we have never really seen georges on his back against a top level grappler except against hughes in the first fight, i find it extremely unlikely that hughes will be able to maintain top position so dominantly that georges won’t get back up or reverse him. in the first fight georges was doing pretty good for his experience. he made a bad mistake going for the kimura, but that fact aside, georges was avoiding all of matt’s gnp. in the second fight, aside from his gameplan of standing and wrecking, he took hughes down and passed to half guard within seconds. perhaps hughes will formulate a gameplan for once in his career and make note that georges likes to pass on the right side nearly exclusively, and nullify that if he is taken down, something that seems inevitable in light of his handling of kos. i think georges going in with a gameplan of taking hughes’ out of his ‘comfort zone’ as he did with kos will prove that he really is the superior WW on the planet. i’m not sure there are too many other fighters out there who implement and execute gameplans as well as rush.

on another note, the hysteria over how out-classed people think serra is against hughes, who many seem to think is a shoe-in for the title, is scary, and frankly retarded. please check the last 10months. matt hughes was exposed by st. pierre. everybody knows matt’s game is to get you down and pound you or work you into submission. against lytle he showed he’s a one trick pony and against a crafty dude like lytle, somebody people expected he would smash through, he further solidified that fact. serra on the other hand is coming in with zero pressure. maybe it’s just me, but he looks like the type of hitter who knocks people out cold if he lands flush. georges got clipped and was rocked. hughes slipping into that striking zone is highly dangerous. of course he’s much stronger than serra and will have to put on an extremely boring performance to win a decision because i doubt he will ever submit serra. serra’s grappling credentials are not to be fucked with, even though he hasn’t submitted anyone at the higher levels of mma.
i just don’t think hughes is going to run through serra whatsoever. he’s good but he is not that good and serra isn’t that bad. we shall see.

[quote comment="193196"]matt hughes will detroy serra, then win against st. pierre, and for his last career fight. he’ll fight anderson silva. and win both MW and WW titles.[/quote]
Matt Hughes, get off the forums please!!

Dan’s wife was CRAZY!!!! And NOT just “suffering from an anxiety attack”. I just wonder if she is in fact equally as hot as she is crazy based on the “crazy/hot scale” (see video for explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYsezKAw1Xo )

Is it just me or does Ben look a little like Sacha Baron Cohen?

[quote comment="193535"]Matt Hughes is an idiot. I don’t care how good of a fighter he is, hes a shitty coach.

He’s sitting there after the show wondering what went wrong, did he choose wrong guys, etc.

here’s one for you Matt, maybe your shouldn’t have destroyed your fighter hand acting like an idiot, teaching him a lesson.

Not only is Serra a better coach, but his fighters are proving they respect him more. Not everyone has hat it takes to be a coach, Hughes should just fight, Serra should just coach.[/quote]
dont forget Serra has 2 or 3 schools 1 which is about 2 mins from my house

[quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]

didnt Pulvers team dominate ?

[quote comment="193915"][quote comment="193473"]GOOOO TEAM SERRA

oh and u havent guess by now i live on Long Island. Serra’s 1st school is 2 mins from my house:)[/quote]
Go make sure that Joey’s bitch ass isn’t there. If he is you should kick him in the vagina.[/quote]
ha ha ha if i could get in i would check im sure that he isnt welcomed there anymore though

[quote comment="193950"][quote comment="193479"]GO SERRA GO

SERRA IS NO JOKE THEY SAID IF HE GETS HIS STANDUP GOOD, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE IMPROVED BECAUSE HE KNOCKED OUT gsp, THAT HE WOULD ALMOST BE UNSTOPABLE[/quote]

I wouldn’t call him a joke but I would call him an little man with a big man syndrome that had a punchers chance and got “Lucky”. No body is unstoppable.

Give Serra credit for being the better coach, he was pretty much the coach on the show where he was a contestant. We can barley hear Hughes give instructions to his guys while the little man can be heard out side the building.[/quote]

he got lucky wow ive read that he could be unstopable

[quote comment="194072"]You think Hughes is upset now? Wait until Serra beats him.

The last great upset of 2007 will be Serra beating Hughes.

Next year GSP will beat Serra in a rematch and eventually lose the belt to Jon Fitch.[/quote]
great prediction except i dont think serra will lose for a while

[quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]

serra knows how to fight thats y he never rushed in

[quote comment="194701"][quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.[/quote]

dont forget the punch that got him even worse remember the punch that Rogan said “Now that 1 got him” or something like that

[quote comment="195219"][quote comment="194701"][quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.[/quote]

dont forget the punch that got him even worse remember the punch that Rogan said “Now that 1 got him” or something like that[/quote]

Yeah, GSP took a shot right behind the ear, which is what knocked him silly…. I don’t care who you are, if you get hit that hard behind the ear it’s lights out.

As for the TUF fight, Ben was definitely the better fighter and his knees and kicks were impressive. If he works on his boxing he is going to be a force with that reach. I think it should have gone to round 3, but there is no way Barrera was going to win that fight regardless.

i don’t know if anyones said it yet, but i thought that comment about “is she jewish” hilarious, seeing as mania didn’t see the relevence i thought i’d explain
the guy was obviously joking and trying to get under Dan’s skin, he’s always making comments about “god’s on my side” and he’s obviously a hard-core christian (not that it’s a bad thing) and so one of the guys was just trying to bug him asking him if his girlfriend was jewish….. ok it’s not that funny but i could see that really bothering dan and so in that respect it was funny
and i thought the descision was correct.

Where did you get your judges, from a classified Ad!! Matt Hughes. LOL best line of the night as Hughes confronts the NSAC chief.

[quote comment="195219"][quote comment="194701"][quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.[/quote]

dont forget the punch that got him even worse remember the punch that Rogan said “Now that 1 got him” or something like that[/quote]
gsp was seriously f**ked up after the hit to the back of the head, and serra did land some pretty heavy blows after that but gsp was in serious trouble and couldn’t really defend himself. Not to take anything away from serra but after the hit to the back of the head I think ANY welter weight would have t(ko)ed gsp he couldn’t tell up from down and had no dept perception. It’s kind of interesting the only 2 times gsp looked bad was first with penn after the illegal eye poke causing him to see double, next the illegal hit to the back of the head from serra screwing up him equalibrium. He lost to hughes with the freak arm bar too with 1 second left in the round but was doing great before that. Only way gsp can lose is by some freak occurance with any welter weight out there.

[quote comment="195690"][quote comment="195219"][quote comment="194701"][quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.[/quote]

dont forget the punch that got him even worse remember the punch that Rogan said “Now that 1 got him” or something like that[/quote]
gsp was seriously f**ked up after the hit to the back of the head, and serra did land some pretty heavy blows after that but gsp was in serious trouble and couldn’t really defend himself. Not to take anything away from serra but after the hit to the back of the head I think ANY welter weight would have t(ko)ed gsp he couldn’t tell up from down and had no dept perception. It’s kind of interesting the only 2 times gsp looked bad was first with penn after the illegal eye poke causing him to see double, next the illegal hit to the back of the head from serra screwing up him equalibrium. He lost to hughes with the freak arm bar too with 1 second left in the round but was doing great before that. Only way gsp can lose

is by some freak occurance with any welter weight out there.[/quote]
it wasnt illegal because it wasnt like Serra was going for it remember he punched and GPS lowered his head.

SERRA IS A JOKE ! going around callin somebody a D**KHEAD is just Dumb . makes hiself look like the D**KHEAD. Hughes is doing the best thing keeping he mouth shut about his feelings about SERRA .Well it all being said (Hughes) is the better man!

[quote comment="195869"][quote comment="195690"][quote comment="195219"][quote comment="194701"][quote comment="194642"][quote comment="194192]Second, Serra caught GSP (who has a suspect chin) with a punch. Getting caught with a punch is a lot different than being taken down and then pounded out. A lot of things have to happen for the latter, while the former can happen in a blink of an eye. And it’s more likely that Silva (who has an awesome chin) will suffer a sudden heart attack than Hughes catching him with a punch.
[/quote]

How does a guy who is 14-2 with one loss by TKO have a suspect chin? If it was that suspect he would have been stopped by Penn in round one.

Serra did catch him, but it was an accurate shot, not a haymaker. It took 21 seconds from the first shot to the stoppage. Serra never rushed in, never got reckless (ala Arlovski/Sylvia 2), and now he’s the champ.

I still think GSP is the better fighter, but he got handled that night.[/quote]
ya gsp definitely doesn’t have a suspect chin, the hit that really ended the fight for him, and screwing up his equalibrium was the one to the back of his head. He had wobbly legs after that and was easy pickings for serra.[/quote]

dont forget the punch that got him even worse remember the punch that Rogan said “Now that 1 got him” or something like that[/quote]
gsp was seriously f**ked up after the hit to the back of the head, and serra did land some pretty heavy blows after that but gsp was in serious trouble and couldn’t really defend himself. Not to take anything away from serra but after the hit to the back of the head I think ANY welter weight would have t(ko)ed gsp he couldn’t tell up from down and had no dept perception. It’s kind of interesting the only 2 times gsp looked bad was first with penn after the illegal eye poke causing him to see double, next the illegal hit to the back of the head from serra screwing up him equalibrium. He lost to hughes with the freak arm bar too with 1 second left in the round but was doing great before that. Only way gsp can lose

is by some freak occurance with any welter weight out there.[/quote]
it wasnt illegal because it wasnt like Serra was going for it remember he punched and GPS lowered his head.[/quote]
duh I know that but its a fact that hits to the back of the head ARE illegal, since it wasn’t INTENTIONAL how can it be skill?

BUT THE 1 THAT REALLY BUCKLED gsp WAS THE 2 SHOTS TO THE CHIN WHERE ROGAN SAYS NOW THAT HURT HIM

Nice coaching by Hughes. Beat the crap out of your fighter, just to teach him a lesson. It doesn’t matter if his upcoming fight is Hughes last chance. Matt Hughes is as sharp as a marble. I think Serra will “terrorize” him at the end.

[quote comment="196817"]BUT THE 1 THAT REALLY BUCKLED gsp WAS THE 2 SHOTS TO THE CHIN WHERE ROGAN SAYS NOW THAT HURT HIM[/quote]
Again duh but gsp couldn’t defend himself so serra could land those big 2 shots, if the back of the head hit didn’t happen serra wouldn’t have been able to land those BIG shots. And what does rogan know? gsp knows what happened in there, and he said the first hit to the back of the head screwed up his equalibrium and he couldn’t tell up from down which make him a very easy target for serra. Oh course those two big hits hurt him but there was very little skill involved in executing them, it was like shooting a fish in a barrel, gsp was mortally wounded after the clip to the back of the head…see it how ever you want, I’m still not impressed with serra’s freak win.

[quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]
BJ Penn’s team got dominated by Team Pulver. Did you even watch the season. Both finalists were from Team Pulver. Get you facts straight if you are going to post.

If matt hughes is questioning why he should continue with the show, is he considering work in a nursing home? In an earlier episode he states he liked helping others, cos thats just the way he is. Just goes to show, the real Hughes can’t evade the reality show camera.

I came into this series as a Hughes fan now i just think he is unbearable. Three quick reasons…

1) The day before his guys fight he was trying to show him who’s boss by going to town on him during practice.

2) During and immidiatly after the fight he is screaming abuse at his guy who has just taken about 20 shins and knees to the head. Come on i mean it was obvious that he should have let him up in the first but give the guy a break, he let it all hang out in there.

3) His disrespect to the judges. Nope i didn’t agree with them either but what was he expecting “oh ok Matt, sure as your arguing we’ll go to the 3rd”

Now he’s threatening to quit the show like a 12yr old storming out with his gameboy.

I hope Serra kicks his ass.

PS How much does Serra sound like Joe Pesci.

[quote comment="197585"][quote comment="193790"]TUF 1: Liddell’s team dominates Randy –> Liddell Destroys randy at UFC 52

TUF 3: Ortiz’s team dominates Shamrock –> Ortiz destroys Shamrock twice (UFC 61, UFN)

TUF 5: BJ’s team dominates Pulver –> BJ destroys Pulver at UFN

Is this an omen for UFC 79, is Hughes about to not only get beat, but beat down????? History isn’t in his favor….[/quote]
BJ Penn’s team got dominated by Team Pulver. Did you even watch the season. Both finalists were from Team Pulver. Get you facts straight if you are going to post.[/quote]

haha yeah i was thinking the same. everyone did make it seem like team penn got beat worst than they did though, it was only 5-3, almost even. and also it wasn’t ufc it was the tuf5 finale

ufn** not ufc my bad.

[quote comment="197340"][quote comment="196817"]BUT THE 1 THAT REALLY BUCKLED gsp WAS THE 2 SHOTS TO THE CHIN WHERE ROGAN SAYS NOW THAT HURT HIM[/quote]
Again duh but gsp couldn’t defend himself so serra could land those big 2 shots, if the back of the head hit didn’t happen serra wouldn’t have been able to land those BIG shots. And what does rogan know? gsp knows what happened in there, and he said the first hit to the back of the head screwed up his equalibrium and he couldn’t tell up from down which make him a very easy target for serra. Oh course those two big hits hurt him but there was very little skill involved in executing them, it was like shooting a fish in a barrel, gsp was mortally wounded after the clip to the back of the head…see it how ever you want, I’m still not impressed with serra’s freak win.[/quote]

GSP is discovering his mental game. Any fighter he does’nt know personally or have any respect for he destroys. When he separates his emotion from his fight game he will become truely formidable

Watching the end of episode 6 you kind of feel sorry for Matt Hughes as he has that frog in a well look on his face. But then I remember his humble pie is long due. In TUF 2 we see how Hughes loves to get inside the heads of others and mock them. We also see this in TUF 4 when he publicly mocks GSP in the sushi bar, and when he trys to stir the pot with Mark Layman and Serra. When Serra tells Hughes that he isn’t his pet monkey, Hughes replies by insulting him saying that layman definitely isnt (implying Serra is). Hughes’ fame and glory may have got to his head. He isn’t the first and won’t be the last. It is difficult to keep your feet on the ground when so many people idolise you. GSP has the correct ethic as he trains as though he is coming to take the belt and not defending it. He and Randy Couture have the true mental, physical and spiritual attributes of a warrior. Always courteous and open with others. It is hard not to respect them.

no it wasnt the worst decision ever, but it sure felt like it. they should have penalties and sanctions for those kinds of judging. how was that a 10-8? Ben got knocked down, and had 2 point lead?