Anderson Silva would hurt Matt Hughes.

Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.

So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea. If Hughes wins and becomes WW champ, I do not want him moving up to fight Anderson. BECAUSE that would put the WW title on hold for like 8 months – AGAIN. Jon Fitch is due for a #1 contender match, but they haven’t booked one yet becuase Hughes/Serra in Dec. GSP gets winner no sooner than March. Or would Hughes fight Anderson then? SO the soonest anyone besides Hughes or GSP to fight for the WW belt would be June/July/August – assuming there is no Hughes/SIlva fight.

That is not fair to the WW division.

I don’t know if Dana wants to throw Matt in there with Silva..its like placing a rabbit in snake tank.

Matt Hughes needs to worry about his own division first. Get through Matt Serra and then the rubber match between GSP. I would much rather see Silva/Henderson than Silva/Hughes.

[quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.[/quote]

I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. Hughes is one of the biggest and most bankable UFC stars. Not to mention his storied legacy would be tainted if he went on a three-fight skid to end his career. By his own admission, he only has a handful of fights left in him. Who knows.

I don’t think Matt is as good as he used to be. Lots of fighters are improving in many areas of their game and Matt still doesn’t have very good striking skills. This would be a quick first round TKO.

[quote comment="190441"]Matt Hughes needs to worry about his own division first. Get through Matt Serra and then the rubber match between GSP. I would much rather see Silva/Henderson than Silva/Hughes.[/quote]
I agree. Anderson would crush him. GSP would probably give Anderson a better bout than Matt, but I would like to see Henderson drop down, that would be the best match up.

Hughes would get rocked…he has no stand up and Silva is deadly on the ground. It would be a the Beating GSP laid on him but 10 times worse.

what a load of crap

Anderson Silva in my mind would destroy both Hughes and GSP fairly easily. I would rather see some 205ers drop down to fight him than 170s try to go up. Hendo should be the next to fight Silva.

So here is my question: Is Silva/Franklin like Liddel/Ortiz in that Silva is just made to beat Franklin? or is Silva so damn good that he is in a league higher than the #1 contender, who is in turn in a league higher than the #2 contender, cause if so, I don’t see Silva losing for a LONG time.

Franklin is so much better than everyone in the division, and Anderson Silva seems to be that much better than Franklin. It’s scary.

If Hughes thought GSP was bad he should imagine a stronger GSP with longer reach and even better striking.

[quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

not until he beat Fedor

Matt would get owned, no doubts about it. I would pay to see it.

Anderson Silva vs GSP, who do think folks??????

I think everyone on here is underestimating hughes, I actually think its a good match up for hughes because he wouldn’t stand with him at all, get the take down go for side mount and pound him out. I would love to see this fight because I feel matt has a better chance than any middle weight out there, lutter had the right idea and I feel matt is stronger on the ground than lutter and could avoid spiders super long legs if he could get him in the side mount. Standing with spider is silly for any welter or middle weight, I personally think franklin is a bad match up style wise for silva and gsp or hughes would match up better, I believe only a powerful wrestler could defeat silva. I really hope this fight happens, hughes should easily beat serra, bump up to 185 and challenge silva for the title, if he wins he’ll have 2 belts at the same time. The only guys I would like to see fight silva a hendo,gsp and hughes, lindland would be good too I think.

[quote comment="190422"]Anderson Silva would hurt Matt Hughes.[/quote]

Andy would do more then hurt Hughes.
That would be a bad move for Hughes. He doesn’t want to retire after being HOSPITALIZED by the Spider.

This fight probably wont ever happen, but i would love to see Hughes get beat around by Andy.
Anderson is the best pound4pound fighter in MMA today!
I think he could do alot of damage in the LHW, let alone dominating the MW division at the same time.
BRING HENDO ON!! he might be the next to feel the arsenal of fighting techniques Anderson displays.

[quote comment="190450"][quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.[/quote]

I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. …[/quote]

How would that make it 3 in a row? I count 2.

silva would destroy Hughes.
at first I thought the fight would be pointless. but as I hear about it more and more, the more I like it.
I would pay the $40 just to watch Hughes’s nose get knocked into the 3rd row. Hughes needs a vicous beating before retirement.
As Hughes would say…”I love it, I love it”

Bruce Lee would’ve beaten Silva.

doesn’t make sense scheduling wise – if hughes loses to serra you don’t want to risk piling up losses (as someone above pointed out). if he wins, GSP’s got a shot at that belt lined up in montreal in march/april.

when would this proposed fight take place? if hughes gets past serra AND gsp.. so in the summer? not to mention – anderson is a slightly larger version of GSP. what do you think is going to happen to hughes if they put him in a cage with the spider? look at UFC 65 – then add a little bit of reach and a couple pounds. hughes face would be getting reconstructed – ala rich franklin.

Imagine what Anderson will do to Hughes after seeing what GSP did to Hughes. Now that is ugly! I’m sure Franklin wouldn’t recommend Hughes take that fight. In fact, I’m sure Franklin will have nightmares of his fights with Anderson. Well, of what he remembers anyway. Run Hughes RUN!!!

[quote comment="190500"][quote comment="190450"][quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.[/quote]

I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. …[/quote]

How would that make it 3 in a row? I count 2.[/quote]

1. GPS
2. Serra
3. Silva

That would make 3 is what he was getting at.

1. GSP

damn typo’s

wouldnt be three in a row, you are forgeting about the exciting fight against lytle

now that shogun has lost and forrest is hurt, silva could move up and challenge rampage at 205…that would certainly be a better match-up than watching silva pound matt hughes

[quote comment="190436"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea. If Hughes wins and becomes WW champ, I do not want him moving up to fight Anderson. BECAUSE that would put the WW title on hold for like 8 months – AGAIN. Jon Fitch is due for a #1 contender match, but they haven’t booked one yet becuase Hughes/Serra in Dec. GSP gets winner no sooner than March. Or would Hughes fight Anderson then? SO the soonest anyone besides Hughes or GSP to fight for the WW belt would be June/July/August – assuming there is no Hughes/SIlva fight.

That is not fair to the WW division.[/quote]

agreed Mike. Also I dont see the point in hughes fighting Anderson. Hughes will get eaten alive. If they are looking for an opponent to fight against Silva from the WW division. I would think that Anderson vs. GSP or Anderson vs. Fitch would be way more competitive then Hughes vs. Silva.

Silva is the best P4P fighter right now, but I’d like to see him take on a few good grapplers. All the people he has beaten(except Lutter) tried to stand-up against him and got wrecked. Lutter was able to take Silva down relateively easily(albeit, Silva had knee surgery a few months prior to that fight). We know Silva is deadly with the standup, but I dont believe his ground work has truely been tested. Sure he caught Lutter in a Triangle, but Lutter fucked up when he gave up that mount for the arm-bar.

You guys aren’t getting it, hughes ISN’T franklin and isn’t going to be standing with him and get caught in the clinch. He’ll go for the take downs and hold him there, I’ll predict silva will be the one looking bad and taking a beating on his back most of the fight. Silva’s wrestling in no where near gsp’s and I think gsp could take him down at will too and could also stand with him for a while. Silva looked bad against lutter in the first round, styles make fights people and franklin is a very poor style to fight silva and will get his arse kicked every time, he just loves to stand and bang and I don’t think any mma fighter out could out strike silva. Lutter was the only one with a brain(meaning intelligent game plan to fight silva) silva is crazy good on his feet and the only way I could see anyone right now beating him in by taking him down.

[quote comment="190450"][quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.[/quote]

I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. Hughes is one of the biggest and most bankable UFC stars. Not to mention his storied legacy would be tainted if he went on a three-fight skid to end his career. By his own admission, he only has a handful of fights left in him. Who knows.[/quote]
I don’t agree with keeping Hughes out of good fights just to protect his legacy. Ken Shamrock kept getting beaten up in fights at the end of his career, but that didn’t do anything to diminish him to fans who know what Ken did throughout his career. Hughes, whether you like him or not, has earned at least as much respect over his career as Shamrock, and a few losses to exceptional opponents would not hurt his legacy.

[quote comment="190481"][quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

not until he beat Fedor[/quote]
Do you understand what pound for pound means?

UFC is struggling to find a challenge for Silva. If the UFC is looking for a tough opponent to fight Silva they Already have one. Dan Henderson… I know he doesnt wanna cut weight anymore, but I guarentee that if the UFC head honcho’s would open up their wallets a little they can convince Hendo to drop down to 185. Hendo has said that he wants to stayt at 205 mainly because the money is better…make the money better at 185

That would still be 2 in a row. He beat Chris Lytle since losing to GSP.

[quote comment="190534"]That would still be 2 in a row. He beat Chris Lytle since losing to GSP.[/quote]

Right. What a great fight. Surprising I totally forgot about it.

hughes lost to gsp beat lytle, will beat serra and would probably beat silva, whats the problem?

Come to think about it, it’s not that bad of a match up.

Is Anderson’s take down defense that great? Lutter took him down seemingly, fairly easily. Hughes’ take downs are probably better than Lutter’s. I know Hughes won’t try to stand with him.

I’m not saying that I’m favoring Hughes, I just think he has a good chance considering his wrestling ability, strength, and resiliance. That could be the trick to beating Silva – wrestle, smuther, pound, out muscle, and decision him (or flying scissor heel hook like Ryo did).

In all honesty, I would rather see the welterweights sort out themselves first. GSP and Fitch deserve shots no matter who wins between Serra and Hughes.

NO ONE CAN BEAT ANDERSON SILVA RIGHT NOW!

I agree with Nathan. Hughes may do better than most other fighters of similar caliber. Hughes wrestling ground/pound is the best style to match up against Silva. You can’t out strike Silva. You can’t submit Silva, at least not without tenderizing him a bit beforehand. The one vulnerability may be strength and the take down defense. Hughes, while a super strong welterweight, may not be as strong as a middleweight.

If Hughes makes 185lbs and fights Silva and Hughes takes him to the ground, IT’S GAME OVER FOR THAT SKINNY ASS SPIDER!

GSP VS. SILVA…Now that would be a match..

Hughes is such a good wrestler in his division because he is so strong, if he moves up a weight class, he isn’t so strong anymore in comparison, I don’t think you would see the same domination on the ground at 185 as you do at 170.

Keep in mind that Anderson Silva is a BJJ Black Belt under Nogueira. I think I remember him saying after the Lutter fight that he wasn’t worried about being taken down, so he didn’t bother trying to defend it, which worked out for him because he put him in a triangle.

With his natural weight being 20 or so pounds heavier than Hughes’, I don’t think it would be a big deal for Silva if Hughes tried to lay and pray, I think Silva would still beat the hell out of him. Only one way to find out though.

[quote comment="190544"]NO ONE CAN BEAT ANDERSON SILVA RIGHT NOW![/quote]
correct son.the only people who have a chance r henderson dropping down(im not considering any other lhws at the moment)and a well cut travis lutter.people seem to forget he had silva in the mount and almost dominated ground position and he was falling all over the place on his way to the ring let alone in the fight.he was that dry
he couldnt even smile on the way down.dana make this match people uve got to agree with me travis gave him trouble.probably twice as much as franklins give him after 2 fights

Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts. A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.

[quote comment="190436"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea. If Hughes wins and becomes WW champ, I do not want him moving up to fight Anderson. BECAUSE that would put the WW title on hold for like 8 months – AGAIN. Jon Fitch is due for a #1 contender match, but they haven’t booked one yet becuase Hughes/Serra in Dec. GSP gets winner no sooner than March. Or would Hughes fight Anderson then? SO the soonest anyone besides Hughes or GSP to fight for the WW belt would be June/July/August – assuming there is no Hughes/SIlva fight.

That is not fair to the WW division.[/quote]

Agreed!! Hughs wouldn’t win anyways, It’s either GSP, or Hendo. If Hendo does’nt want to come down, at least let GSP go up, he’s talked about it before. Hughs is old and slow (and really short), also he has nothing to prove, especially not in that Division, He could retire happily after GSP takes the rubber match. Also I’d like to say that GSP would Beat Anderson….He’s just as dominant (minus 1 fight) He’s the best all-round, awesome training, and a MASSIVE 170…..agree?

Rampage, chuck, hendo, hell even tito and shogun would be a great fight for anderson silva if they dropped weight that is.

[quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]
chucks got the best takedown defence and silva would destroy gsp and hughes.dont get me wrong gsps got a strikers chance but silva is that good. hes the number 1 p4p mmartist in the world at the moment period.

Can you say head kicks? That way Silva would hit that midget Hughes with. non stop.

really dont understand the Lutter talk, he cant even make weight for a title fight. That is pathetic and embarassing. That is not a focused fighter, he is a slacker and should never fight in UFC again.

He threw away the biggest fight in his career before the bell even rang.
U HAVE TO MAKE WEIGHT

[quote comment="190573"][quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]
chucks got the best takedown defence and silva would destroy gsp and hughes.dont get me wrong gsps got a strikers chance but silva is that good. hes the number 1 p4p mmartist in the world at the moment period.[/quote]
I totally disagree

[quote comment="190572"]Rampage, chuck, hendo, hell even tito and shogun would be a great fight for anderson silva if they dropped weight that is.[/quote]
Why there slower than gsp, less athletic, gsp is a super strong wrestler with excellent leg kicks, extra weight isn’t the answer speed and strength is.

[quote comment="190580"]really dont understand the Lutter talk, he cant even make weight for a title fight. That is pathetic and embarassing. That is not a focused fighter, he is a slacker and should never fight in UFC again.

He threw away the biggest fight in his career before the bell even rang.
U HAVE TO MAKE WEIGHT[/quote]
im not disputing that im just saying by far and wide hes given silva the most problems thats all and if he got his head down and trained and cut weight properly id like to see them fight again because silvas gonna steamroll everyone and silva would probably appreciate the competition you tell me who else is good enough(apart from henderson)

I really think a welter would be a better match up than a natural light heavy weight, there too slow, silva’s main strength is his lightning speed he would pick a bigger slower guy apart.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

(Wipes a tear out of my) As much as I love Cro Cop- (who is one of my top 3 favorite fighters of all time) he is a bit over the hill, we will never again see the old Cro Cop who once dazzled us with highlight reel knock outs. Matt Hughes has been over the hill since his defeat by GSP, his last victory was a wrestling equivalent to Sylvia’s win over “the truth”, it was very un-spectacular. Don’t get me wrong, I really like Matt Hughes, I like the OLD Matt Hughes, and he’s already said it himself that he’s got one foot out the door already. As a man who realizes that he is on a down hill slump it amazes me that he would think of challenging a guy who has not only peaked at the top of his game but has also raised the bar and set the standard to what we now consider to be greatness.

Don’t do it Hughes… Don’t do it. Don’t pull a GSP and look passed Matt Serra either, God, they never learn.

what about david louiseau the crows got great muay thai

So does anyone still think that Bisping could drop down to 185lb and beat franklin or Silva? Didn’t think so.
Also, Silva is an incredible force but everyone goes to defcon 4 too quick. Throwing around statements ike “unbeatable” “unstoppable” “best pound for pound”. If you have been following the sport for the last 3 years you know that these statement are short lived in todays MMA.

[quote comment="190596"]So does anyone still think that Bisping could drop down to 185lb and beat franklin or Silva? Didn’t think so.
Also, Silva is an incredible force but everyone goes to defcon 4 too quick. Throwing around statements ike “unbeatable” “unstoppable” “best pound for pound”. If you have been following the sport for the last 3 years you know that these statement are short lived in todays MMA.[/quote]
agreed.but at the moment he is the top man even if he fought the elite xc hed beat them lawler/baroni/trigg/rua silva/shamrock might be good

[quote comment="190592"]what about david louiseau the crows got great muay thai[/quote]
I’ve thought about that before, interesting match up.

Imiganary scenario, so don’t crucify me. If you had the 205lb division drop 10lbs and asked silva to weigh in at 195lbs you would have to agree the field would look alot different. Something to think about when you start talking “pound for pound”. All props to Silva though.

A little off topic but I just want to mention I saw herb dean in a Winnipeg bar last night and spoke to him. Don’t know why he’s up in Canada but he had to leave before I could ask him questions about the cro cop fight which I really wanted to. He’s smaller than I thought he would be I thought he was tall like 6′2 but he’s closer to 6.

[quote post="3674"]Why there slower than gsp, less athletic, gsp is a super strong wrestler with excellent leg kicks, extra weight isn’t the answer speed and strength is. [/quote]

Your probably right but man I would to see what the best light heavy weights could do.

pfffft Mat Hughes is washed up .how can yu see him facing Silva;he won t even past his next bout vs Serra.the only threat to silva is Dan Henderson.

After Bisping looses to Rashad they ca let Bisping drop to 185 lb’s and feed him to Silva.

after the silva lutter fight i did think that stylistically matt hughes matched up well woth silva and could possibly beat him as silva showed quite poor takedown defense and allowed himself to be mounted. however silva crushed all those doubts for me in his fight against marquadt. he would hurt hughes i think.

after the silva lutter fight i did think that stylistically matt hughes matched up well woth silva and could possibly beat him as silva showed quite poor takedown defense and allowed himself to be mounted. however silva crushed all those doubts for me in his fight against marquadt. he would hurt hughes i think.

the crow would have the best chance.

[quote comment="190513"][quote comment="190500"][quote comment="190450"][quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.[/quote]

I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. …[/quote]

How would that make it 3 in a row? I count 2.[/quote]

1. GPS
2. Serra
3. Silva

That would make 3 is what he was getting at.[/quote]

I seriously doubt the GSP vs Hughes fight would happen if Hughes lost to Serra.

[quote comment="190521"]now that shogun has lost and forrest is hurt, silva could move up and challenge rampage at 205…that would certainly be a better match-up than watching silva pound matt hughes[/quote]

I think Hughes has a much better chance with Silva than Silva does with Rampage at 205. Rampage just went 5 rounds with Hendo and the consensus is that Hendo would destroy Anderson Silva at 185. If the Hendo/Silva fight was at 205, Silva would get KTFO’d in the first round. No way Anderson Silva can put on 20 pounds and try and bang with the top LHW’s.

Everyone keeps talking about how Hendo has to drop to 185 to save the MW division because it’s such a boat race right now. What happens when he destroys the guy who is head, shoulders, and torso above everyone else in that division. Who does Henderson fight after he wrecks Silva? Henderson should stay at 205 and we should get to see some awesome fights in that division for the next 2 years.

Weird, did my comment on this thread get removed? =\

Don’t count Hughs out. he is the one that offered the match, that meant he sees something (obv. wrestling) that could give him advantage. This actually sound like couture calling out Sylvia, he knew he could beat him, even though at the time people thought he was crazy. Always be on a lookout for peoples names getting called out. Usually means it’s a good fight to lift the fighters stock , or it’s beacause they feel it’s a good matchup and they see something they could capitalise on. But he got nothing on Hughes if he can take the fight into his world….and then no one can say Silva can outwrestel Hughes. This fight would be great. And it would be bad ass if Hughes can win both Belt and then retier.

I think Matt hughes could easily out strike Anderson Silva any day of the week.Well, not really but I thought it would be funny to say.I am a big Matt Hughes fan and would love to see that fight but Anderson appears to be a wrecking machine that is unstoppable.It really is a beautiful thing to watch Silva strike.Graceful,yet destructive.

[quote comment="190487"]I think everyone on here is underestimating hughes, I actually think its a good match up for hughes because he wouldn’t stand with him at all, get the take down go for side mount and pound him out. I would love to see this fight because I feel matt has a better chance than any middle weight out there, lutter had the right idea and I feel matt is stronger on the ground than lutter and could avoid spiders super long legs if he could get him in the side mount. Standing with spider is silly for any welter or middle weight, I personally think franklin is a bad match up style wise for silva and gsp or hughes would match up better, I believe only a powerful wrestler could defeat silva. I really hope this fight happens, hughes should easily beat serra, bump up to 185 and challenge silva for the title, if he wins he’ll have 2 belts at the same time. The only guys I would like to see fight silva a hendo,gsp and hughes, lindland would be good too I think.[/quote]

Your on drugs… Hughes couldnt take GSP down and he’s going ground and pound Silva??? You must be from Iowa or something.

the only fight silva looked beatable in was the lutter one
and the reason is he was coming off surgery on both legs

the only way to beat andersson silva is to take it to the ground

hughes like franklin doesnt have the clinical standup which would be needed to even stand with him

watch the franklin fight again… silva blocked almost all his punches with ease

would be great to see him face hughes but i doubt hughes would get the takedown

[quote comment="190606"][quote comment="190592"]what about david louiseau the crows got great muay thai[/quote]
I’ve thought about that before, interesting match up.[/quote]

WHAT ABOUT EVAN TANNER???? he says he knows how to beat Silva. Maybe he’ll crach a bottle of Jack Daniels ove rhis head…

i don’t think hughes would stand much of a chance against silva, i mean, look at how gsp was able to just pick hughes apart the last time they fought, imagine what anderson is gonna do to him…i’d rather see gsp move up…

Matt would get killed just like Rich!

Does anyone know roughly what weight H. Alexander walks around at because for his last fight I think he weighed in at 203 1bs. He seems slimmer than other 205′ers. It would be great if he could drop down. Wow!!! imagine Alexander vs anderson Silva.

Two words: “Body” and “bag”

Hughes might be the first casualty to occur inside the octagon…

[quote comment="190552"]Hughes is such a good wrestler in his division because he is so strong, if he moves up a weight class, he isn’t so strong anymore in comparison, I don’t think you would see the same domination on the ground at 185 as you do at 170.

Keep in mind that Anderson Silva is a BJJ Black Belt under Nogueira. I think I remember him saying after the Lutter fight that he wasn’t worried about being taken down, so he didn’t bother trying to defend it, which worked out for him because he put him in a triangle.

With his natural weight being 20 or so pounds heavier than Hughes’, I don’t think it would be a big deal for Silva if Hughes tried to lay and pray, I think Silva would still beat the hell out of him. Only one way to find out though.[/quote]

Excellent point but does Anderson cut a lot of weight? I would bet that Hughes’ natural weight is actually pretty close to Anderson’s weight. I thought I heard somewhere that Hughes walks around at 190 – does Anderson walk around at 210?

I just think the lay and pray idea would be a good tactic against someone who is that good at striking. If a couple of good elbows are landed from the top position, that could take away a lot of Anderson’s cardio, balance, and confidence.

I think it’s going to take a great wrestler to beat Anderson. I don’t see anyone who is better at striking right now. Maybe Lindland.

[quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]

But think about the Franca vs Sherk fight & how many knees Sherk took shooting in (I use Sherk as an example because his style is an exact clone of Hughes). Now imagine Sherk being Hughes & those knees coming from Silva instead of Franca.

[quote comment="190728"][quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]

But think about the Franca vs Sherk fight & how many knees Sherk took shooting in (I use Sherk as an example because his style is an exact clone of Hughes). Now imagine Sherk being Hughes & those knees coming from Silva instead of Franca.[/quote]

ok, now imagine silva and hughes on steroids

i think matt would have a great chance against silva. styles make fights & matt has a good style to upset silva. if matt fights silva with a good gameplan i think he would be next middleweight champ.

Did anyone see rich’s nose after that fight? it looked wrecked, AGAIN. imagine what matt hughes would get. Rich has dominated a lot of guys in stand up wars and Silva just made him look silly.

[quote comment="190486"]Anderson Silva vs GSP, who do think folks??????[/quote]
Silva has better stand-up, and close to equal wrestling but not qite as good, better BJJ, 3x the heart and 10x the mental toughness factor…..Silva by TKO rd. 2

GSP vs Anderson …make it happen!!! They can comprimise on the weight class but it has to HAPPEN!!!

i am pretty sure matt hughes would be able to take anderson down at will the problem is can he keep him there and avoid submissions. so far every who has gotten anderson down either got submitted or could not hold anderson down for more than a minute. I think hughes has great takedowns ground control and ground and pound and he also has a underrated submission game i think he has a good of shot as anybody in the world right now to beat silva.

[quote comment="190672"][quote comment="190487"]I think everyone on here is underestimating hughes, I actually think its a good match up for hughes because he wouldn’t stand with him at all, get the take down go for side mount and pound him out. I would love to see this fight because I feel matt has a better chance than any middle weight out there, lutter had the right idea and I feel matt is stronger on the ground than lutter and could avoid spiders super long legs if he could get him in the side mount. Standing with spider is silly for any welter or middle weight, I personally think franklin is a bad match up style wise for silva and gsp or hughes would match up better, I believe only a powerful wrestler could defeat silva. I really hope this fight happens, hughes should easily beat serra, bump up to 185 and challenge silva for the title, if he wins he’ll have 2 belts at the same time. The only guys I would like to see fight silva a hendo,gsp and hughes, lindland would be good too I think.[/quote]

Your on drugs… Hughes couldnt take GSP down and he’s going ground and pound Silva??? You must be from Iowa or something.[/quote]
If you read all my earlier posts you would know I’m from canada and just because hughes couldn’t get gsp down doesn’t mean he can’t get silva down, gsp and hughes are much much better wrestlers than silva is your the one who isn’t making any sense, silva is a horrible wrestler gsp and hughes would get him down no problem, I guess I disagree with almost all the commentors on this page because I think gsp and hughes could take silva if they stuck with ground and pound and think they would win more times than they would lose in 10 fights. Silva is an amazing striker and in his last 4 fights 3 of his victims tried to match blows with him and got koed for there trouble and lutter DID make silva look bad in round one, I just think a good wrestler would give silva some problems.

[quote post="3674"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.
not until he beat Fedor [/quote]

Ah no. Thats not what pound for pound mean.

Lutter is 6′2″
Hughes is 5′9″

Anderson Silva – is 6′2″ (although on Sherdog, he’s listed at 5′11″, which is false)

Hughes couldn’t get close enough to Silva to take him down. His face would be full of knees
and his teeth would be replaced by knuckles.

lutter is gonna be d nxt middleweight champion

[quote comment="190552"]With his natural weight being 20 or so pounds heavier than Hughes’, I don’t think it would be a big deal for Silva if Hughes tried to lay and pray, I think Silva would still beat the hell out of him. Only one way to find out though.[/quote]

Going by ‘natural weight’ as in the weight the walk around at normally, I would say that the difference is considerably less than 20 lbs. Matt Hughes is a huge WW and comes from a wrestling background so he’s been cutting weight for a long time. Anderson Silva does not ‘appear’ to be a large MW, he appears to be rather skinny. If they each have to cut the same amount of weight to make weight in their respective divisions, than the difference would be 15 lbs (difference of weight between WW and MW). However, like I said, I think that Hughes cuts more weight than Anderson does. My educated guess would be that naturally, Anderson is only about 7 lbs more, at most.

[quote comment="190592"]what about david louiseau the crows got great muay thai[/quote]

Next to Evan Tanner, David Loiseau is probably in one of the worst mental states of mma fighters. At least he was. He was on fire up until his title shot against Franklin. After that fight, he has not been the same. He got beat my Mike Swick, David did not look like himself. Then he fought Joey Villasenor in Elite XC and that was by far one of the worst performances I have ever seen in a MMA fight. He did not want to be fighting and it was blatantly obvious.

I think Hughes would have a great chance at beating him. Still an underdog, but if he gets Silva to the ground, it’s over.
When is Hendo gonna get his 185 pound ass down to MW? Much better pickings down there.

Asu usual, Nathan makes the most relevant points on this site. Hughes lost to GSP for two main reasons.

1) He tried to stand with him, which is a monumental mistake as GSP is a far superior striker.
2) He took the fight on way short rest after a tough battle, and tko, off BJ Penn.

Were Hughes to fight Silva, he would definitely not stand and strike with him. His plan would be to shoot in, take him down, and pound him. I see no reason to assume that Hughes would be unable to execute that strategy.
In addition, a 185 Hughes would be stronger and bulkier, and therefor more difficult to deal with on the ground.

Silva is an amazing striker, but Hughes, if he could get the takedown, would test him. I realize that many people dislike Hughes, but that should not cloud your judgement on his skills. He has dominated the welterweight division, and his only recent losses were to GSP and Penn, both of whom he has also beaten.

Show some respect.

I say have Machida drop down to fight him if not Henderson. Machida just has to cut maybe 10 pounds to fight at middleweight, and would put up a much better fight than Hughes

[quote comment="190753"]If you read all my earlier posts you would know I’m from canada and just because hughes couldn’t get gsp down doesn’t mean he can’t get silva down, gsp and hughes are much much better wrestlers than silva is your the one who isn’t making any sense, silva is a horrible wrestler gsp and hughes would get him down no problem, I guess I disagree with almost all the commentors on this page because I think gsp and hughes could take silva if they stuck with ground and pound and think they would win more times than they would lose in 10 fights.

Silva is an amazing striker and in his last 4 fights 3 of his victims tried to match blows with him and got koed for there trouble and lutter DID make silva look bad in round one, I just think a good wrestler would give silva some problems.[/quote]

I agree somewhat with this post. I don’t agree that Silva’s wrestling is as bad as shown in the Lutter fight (as evidenced by the Nate fight), but that is still his weakness imo. Silva hasn’t fought anyone in the ufc with the caliber of wrestling that Hughes/GSP have.

I think GSP could beat him, and take him down without being KOd. I think Silva would KO Hughes, though. Hughes’s standup just isn’t good enough to keep Silva honest. Silva could come out with a Cro Cop vs Randleman 1 strategy without fear of getting caught. He couldn’t do that with GSP, as GSP could actually catch him with some good shots.

I think that Matt Hughesw has the perfect style to beat Silva

Hughes will get knocked out, Hughes wil have to bum rush Silva, and Silva on the ground will be much like the trouble Hughes has with BJPenn. Hughes is not fast enough, but Hughes would do better than most 185lb in taking down Silva if he got in the clinch… however, Silva is just a naturally bigger fighter, Hughes will be overwhelmed and KO’d in the standup.

I totally agree, Hughes should shoot in and catch a flying knee in the eye.

Hey was I too wasted the other night or was the Okami fight not on PPV…If they didn’t show that the UFC is a joke. I would say he is pretty close to being a contender in the 185lb division and to not feature him is terrible. I’m glad we saw the Kalib Starnes fight…Boy was that a dandy.

[quote comment="190733"][quote comment="190728"][quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]

But think about the Franca vs Sherk fight & how many knees Sherk took shooting in (I use Sherk as an example because his style is an exact clone of Hughes). Now imagine Sherk being Hughes & those knees coming from Silva instead of Franca.[/quote]

ok, now imagine silva and hughes on steroids[/quote]

Have you seen the Hughes vs Sherk fight? It was like watching 2 clones go at it…..I digress.

I used the above example as a visual aid.

The point i was trying to quickly make was this:

1.) Hughes would continually shoot on Silva in much the same manner that Sherk did on Franca. As we all saw, Franca landed some vicious knees each time Sherk went for the takedown.

2.) Look at the height disparity between Silva & Franklin and pay attention to how easily Silva landed devastating knee strikes in both of their fights.

3.) When you look at the increased height advantage that Silva has over Hughes in comparison to the one he had over Franklin it translates to Silva landing those knees in devastating fashion with the greatest of ease.

It’s obvious that Franklin is physically stronger than Hughes so someone please tell me how Hughes intends to handle Silva’s clinch? he isnt even close to half the striker Franklin is & its much easier for a man of Silva’s height to control a much shorter fighter like Matt. Yes Hughes will take him down repeatedly but each time Silva stands up (& he will get up every time) Hughes will become gradually slower as the fight wanes on & Silva will begin to predict Matt’s takedown attempts & the knees will come flying in.

Not to mention the fact that each time Silva defends or stands up from a takedown, Matt will be forced to stand & trade for increasingly longer periods of time between each of his takedown attempts.

I dont care for Matt but I do have tremendous respect for his fighting ability. With that being said, he only has one tool with which to beat Silva & thats his GnP. Silva on the other hand has every tool in the book available to him. Styles do make fights but if Silva can nullify Matt’s GnP then its only a matter of time before ole’ Hughes takes a nap.

no way hughes can beat silva nor gsp,hendo will make a good match,size wise

Silva vs. Hughes really is a joke. GSP vs. Silva is very very interesting. But Silva would still kill him too.

[quote comment="190592"]what about david louiseau the crows got great muay thai[/quote]
He needs to get back in the ring first. Where is he?

Ok I got an Idea, Anderson Silva the baddest mofo’ in the UFC, Mr. Muay Thai “knee in your face” Clinch, Mr. Spider. We all hate Brock Lesnar right, so why don’t we give Brock Lesnar the proper homecoming and put him against Anderson Silva. Silva Vs. Lesnar UFC 80 Exhibition Match. I’ll tell you one thing, when Silva lands that first Muay Thai leg kick, everyone is going to say “It’s a bird, NO! it’s a Plane, NO! it’s ANDERSON SILVA flying out of the octagon!!! cuz that’s what would happen, he would get midget tossed!

I wouldn’t mind seeing Hughes take a shot at Anderson Silva, but I don’t think he’d be able to just take him down and pound him out. Anyone remember the fight he had against Jose Pele Landi? It was a years back but Pele was an opponent that posed some of the same dangers that Anderson Silva does, and Hughes got stopped when he went for a takedown and got a really tasty knee served up to him. Anything can happen in a fight, but Anderson having that reach and pinpoint striking to go with his BJJ black belt just makes him look really tough to beat.

No way is Silva stronger than GSP and no way is he the best pound for pound fighter. I still say Anderson was lucky to get past Lutter, the guy was exhausted before the fight, and still almost beat Anderson. Matt Hughes would have a shot, but I don’t see why he should take that fight, given the other matches he can take. He’ll make a lot of money fighting GSP again and if he loses he can fight Koscheck after that.
Why doesn’t the UFC actually get some good middleweights then you guys can see that Anderson is overrated. I think Frank Shamrock would beat him in every aspect; striking, strength, and ground game. I think Filho would submit him, and I think Lindland would have a strong chance to as well. Just cause the MW division is weak in the UFC, doesn’t mean there’s no one who can beat Anderson Silva. I just want someone good to fight Silva, pretty much anyone who’s not already in the UFC MW division.

[quote comment="190871"][quote comment="190733"][quote comment="190728"][quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]

But think about the Franca vs Sherk fight & how many knees Sherk took shooting in (I use Sherk as an example because his style is an exact clone of Hughes). Now imagine Sherk being Hughes & those knees coming from Silva instead of Franca.[/quote]

ok, now imagine silva and hughes on steroids[/quote]

Have you seen the Hughes vs Sherk fight? It was like watching 2 clones go at it…..I digress.

I used the above example as a visual aid.

The point i was trying to quickly make was this:

1.) Hughes would continually shoot on Silva in much the same manner that Sherk did on Franca. As we all saw, Franca landed some vicious knees each time Sherk went for the takedown.

2.) Look at the height disparity between Silva & Franklin and pay attention to how easily Silva landed devastating knee strikes in both of their fights.

3.) When you look at the increased height advantage that Silva has over Hughes in comparison to the one he had over Franklin it translates to Silva landing those knees in devastating fashion with the greatest of ease.

It’s obvious that Franklin is physically stronger than Hughes so someone please tell me how Hughes intends to handle Silva’s clinch? he isnt even close to half the striker Franklin is & its much easier for a man of Silva’s height to control a much shorter fighter like Matt. Yes Hughes will take him down repeatedly but each time Silva stands up (& he will get up every time) Hughes will become gradually slower as the fight wanes on & Silva will begin to predict Matt’s takedown attempts & the knees will come flying in.

Not to mention the fact that each time Silva defends or stands up from a takedown, Matt will be forced to stand & trade for increasingly longer periods of time between each of his takedown attempts.

I dont care for Matt but I do have tremendous respect for his fighting ability. With that being said, he only has one tool with which to beat Silva & thats his GnP. Silva on the other hand has every tool in the book available to him. Styles do make fights but if Silva can nullify Matt’s GnP then its only a matter of time before ole’ Hughes takes a nap.[/quote]
Dude Franklin is not stronger than Hughes is just because you are heavier doesnt mean your stronger besides you cannot compare Hughes ability to take ppl down to Franklin dont get me wrong I think Franklin was doing very well against Silva in the 2nd fight but its as if mentally he broke as soon as Silva got the first clinch, you can see it its crazy Silva didnt land any shots the first 2 or 3 times he got Franklin in the clinch but Franklin kind of 2nd guessed his abilities and just got scared to lose the same way he did the 1st time and sure enough it happened again I believe that Franklin was winning that fight up until he lost confidence in him self more than anything. Now watch Silva vs Lutter as Lutter shoots to take him down he throws a crazy telegraphic knee that Lutter dodges and then he gets taken down, If lutter had the ability that Hughes has on the ground he would have finished that fight. Watch Silva vs Marquardt same thing telegraphic knee dodged and Silva on the ground the mistake that Nate did was not put all his weight on Silva and just hold on to him to prevent from him standing up, I believe Hughes will not make that mistake he will dodge the knee and controll Silva in the bottom then either pound him out or submitt him.

dont get me wrong Silva is a phenomenal striker and if any opponent he has decides to stand and trade with him Silva will keep picking people apart, IF Franklin gets over the fear of the clinch and stays outside he will beat
Silva some day but until then Silva will wait and wait and then boom clinch and Rich does the work for him he gives up and then just gets flurried to death Franklin needs to change camps and train with like Wandy onn the clinch or something cuz damn thats the only way he will ever beat Silva and I trully believe Hughes could beat Silva

i agree w/ most of the guys here that gsp or hendo would have the best shot at beating a.silva, not hughes. i wouldn,t rule b.j. penn out of this group either.

go penn,

There would be so many things wrong with this matchup I don’t know where to begin.
> First, Hughes is not a champion so to line this up is premature.
> Dana should go elsewhere and attract much-needed talent for the Middleweight division. Creating circus-like matches instantly gives me thoughts of Rocky. Did anyone actually enjoy Hughes/Gracie?
> Hughes should be busy enough in 2008 so to risk being eaten by this beast simply does not make sense. Think about where the knees into Franklin’s ribs would land on Hughes… yikes!

It’s obvious that Franklin is physically stronger than Hughes so someone please tell me how Hughes intends to handle Silva’s clinch? he isnt even close to half the striker Franklin is & its much easier for a man of Silva’s height to control a much shorter fighter like Matt. Yes Hughes will take him down repeatedly but each time Silva stands up (& he will get up every time) Hughes will become gradually slower as the fight wanes on & Silva will begin to predict Matt’s takedown attempts & the knees will come flying in.

I don’t know if Hughes could win. But I wouldnt bet against him. Franklin is larger but possiby not stronger. Effective strength is what matters not how much you can lift. Frankline could most likely bench way more and squat way more etc. But the effective strength is clearly different. They Said Anderson had to cut 5 pounds to make weight on the PPV telecast. Hughes walks around at 190. They are about the same size. Watch how Ryo Chonan dealt with Anderson’s knees. That is the same thing Hughes will do. I also dont understand why people think Anderson could just stand up when Hughes takes him down. I have never seen anyone just get up when Hughes took them down. I think Hughes Silva would be a very good fight.

Dana is going to have to address the lack of competition in MW. Nobody can beat Rich (otherthen) Silva can’t be beat by any current MW. 1 and 2 spots are not moving anytime soon.

Hughes would get owned, maybe 5 fights ago…and Anderson 5 fights ago this match up would have been more of a competition, Hughes would be better and Anderson worse. But lets all step back into realty here. Anderson DISMANTLED Rich back to back, and stopped Lutter and Marquardt in similar fashion. Hughes is no better then Marquardt in my opinion, w/ similar skill sets (feel free to challenge). Nate’s got youth, speed and likley more power then Hughes and the spider just took over like he was late for dinner and needed to bounce early.

The answer lies beyond the current UFC roster, unless Hendo gives in and cuts the weight.

Anybody tell me if Lyoto Machida could get to 185 and fight Silva? I think his style might make it intersting with Anderson’s attack, i think Lyoto would do a lot of great counter striking AND MAYBE COULD POSSIBLY catch Silva.

BZ

Matt Hughes thinks he can shoot for a takedown on Anderson Sliva, but he can’t get close enough. Silva is going to keep him at bay with his long reach get him in the clinch and pick him apart with knees. Matt Hughes doesn’t stand a chance against Silva. Heck even a big welterweight like GSP doesn’t stand a chance. Note to any body 185 and under: You have no chance against Anderson Silva. As long as the start the fight standing up that’s exactally where Anderson Sliva is going to finish it.

Forget Matt Hughes vs Anderson Silva bring on Dan Henderson. Believe it or not I think Hendo is a good match-up for Silva. Silva Likes that Clinch and with Dan Henderson’s Grecko he can take annybody down from the clinch. I think Silva would still win but it would be a better fight than Matt Hughes vs Anderson Silva.

[quote comment="190753"][quote comment="190672"][quote comment="190487"]I think everyone on here is underestimating hughes, I actually think its a good match up for hughes because he wouldn’t stand with him at all, get the take down go for side mount and pound him out. I would love to see this fight because I feel matt has a better chance than any middle weight out there, lutter had the right idea and I feel matt is stronger on the ground than lutter and could avoid spiders super long legs if he could get him in the side mount. Standing with spider is silly for any welter or middle weight, I personally think franklin is a bad match up style wise for silva and gsp or hughes would match up better, I believe only a powerful wrestler could defeat silva. I really hope this fight happens, hughes should easily beat serra, bump up to 185 and challenge silva for the title, if he wins he’ll have 2 belts at the same time. The only guys I would like to see fight silva a hendo,gsp and hughes, lindland would be good too I think.[/quote]

Your on drugs… Hughes couldnt take GSP down and he’s going ground and pound Silva??? You must be from Iowa or something.[/quote]
If you read all my earlier posts you would know I’m from canada and just because hughes couldn’t get gsp down doesn’t mean he can’t get silva down, gsp and hughes are much much better wrestlers than silva is your the one who isn’t making any sense, silva is a horrible wrestler gsp and hughes would get him down no problem, I guess I disagree with almost all the commentors on this page because I think gsp and hughes could take silva if they stuck with ground and pound and think they would win more times than they would lose in 10 fights.

Silva is an amazing striker and in his last 4 fights 3 of his victims tried to match blows with him and got koed for there trouble and lutter DID make silva look bad in round one, I just think a good wrestler would give silva some problems.[/quote]

Lutter got his ass submitted via triangle. The point is…Hughes couldnt take down GSP. If he couldn’t take down GSP, what makes you think he is going to ground and pound someone who he can’t get near. Look at the measurements. Silva has a hugh reach and the best striking there is. If you cant get close, how are you going to take him down. To quote Dana “I am not pulling smoke out of my ass!”. I train BJJ and Vale Tudo.. I am roughly the same size as Hughes, not as muscular, but I have similar dimensions…. When you are facing someone as well rounded as Silva… You can’t just go in and take him down at will…You risk taking a dead shot. Plus Ansderson moves too well.

I am not saying Hughes is shit or anything, clearly he is not, just not a good match up. I dont see GSP beating Silva. I never said Silva was a wrestler, he is a black belt in Ju Jistu and has a slick ground game… I am sure Anderson has no problems with the ground…Ask Lutter! And I make no sence!! Get off the BC shit dude.

[quote comment="191119"]Matt Hughes thinks he can shoot for a takedown on Anderson Sliva, but he can’t get close enough. Silva is going to keep him at bay with his long reach get him in the clinch and pick him apart with knees. Matt Hughes doesn’t stand a chance against Silva. Heck even a big welterweight like GSP doesn’t stand a chance. Note to any body 185 and under: You have no chance against Anderson Silva. As long as the start the fight standing up that’s exactally where Anderson Sliva is going to finish it.[/quote]
Couldn’t agree more! According to yohnstoppable we make no sense…!

cung le would beat silva

Rich Franklin is a monster compared to Hughes. Does anyone really believe Hughes could in any way dominate Franklin or marquadt? If hughes tried to take silva down, he would be stopped with ease. He would have to run and dive in to avoid Silva’s reach. IT would be damn near comical. I thought the people that said franklin would beat Silva this time were idiots. Hughes wants to fight Silva because it would be a huge payday prior to retirement. He doesn’t have the power to pound out Silva. Silva spars with Big Nog. If Hughes takes him down and tries to pound him out, he has to deal with Silva throwing shots back. We all saw how much difficulty BJ Penn gave him before tiring. Silva is a BJJ blackbelt. I love Matt Hughes, but get real. Anyone who thinks he has a chance must work in promotions for UFC.

Only people I want to see verse Silva.
Hendo
Filho
Mayhem Miller ( maybe,not sure about that one)
Kang
Chonan Rematch ( and chonan is now a ww, so unlikely)

how about gsp

GSP said he was gonna clean out the ww and then move up to mw . So i think gsp Has been thinkin about it.

its all about cung le, that dude crazy good throws and insane kicks

A good wrestler matches up well with Silva, but not someone with the terrible stand-up game Hughes has. Plus, look at the reach advantage Silva will have on him. Hughes is gonna be a bloody mess (if not KO’d alraedy) before he gets close enough set up the double leg.

Personally I think Hendo would own Silva. I see him able to absorb all the punishment he needs to take in order to get inside, push him to the cage, take him down and pound on him for 5 rounds.

[quote comment="191404"]A good wrestler matches up well with Silva, but not someone with the terrible stand-up game Hughes has. Plus, look at the reach advantage Silva will have on him. Hughes is gonna be a bloody mess (if not KO’d alraedy) before he gets close enough set up the double leg.

Personally I think Hendo would own Silva. I see him able to absorb all the punishment he needs to take in order to get inside, push him to the cage, take him down and pound on him for 5 rounds.[/quote]

Yup, that’s the point, only Hendo’ really really doesn’t want to cut the weight, he’s been doing it for so long that he’s physically and mentally burnt on doing it and probably feels he can’t make it anymore.. well if he loses at 205lbs he may re-consider, he’s the only guy I’ll put my money on to beat Silva.

The only 2 other fighters I give a shot at beating Silva are Matt Lindlind and GSP, one isn’t signed with the UFC and may never fight at 185lbs again and GSP has a lot more to accomplish at 170lbs before moving up to 185lbs.

[quote post="3674"]I don’t know if Dana wants to throw Matt in there with Silva..its like placing a rabbit in snake tank. [/quote]
More like a mouse.lol

[quote post="3674"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea.
I said most likely. That’s because if he loses to Serra, makes no sense to put him in there with Silva and potentially lose three in a row. …
How would that make it 3 in a row? I count 2.
1. GPS
2. Serra
3. Silva
That would make 3 is what he was getting at. [/quote]
Not, 3 in a roe though, he beat Lytle in between.

Edit: that should be ,Not 3 in a row.

TITO ORTIZ VERSUS MATT HUGHES

Former UFC Champions he Huntington Beach Bad Boy Tito Ortiz versus cocky  Matt Hughes wresting in world grappling tournament.

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[quote post="3674"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.
A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.
chucks got the best takedown defence and silva would destroy gsp and hughes.dont get me wrong gsps got a strikers chance but silva is that good. hes the number 1 p4p mmartist in the world at the moment period.
I totally disagree [/quote]
GSP has better takedown defence than Chuck.

[quote post="3674"]Don’t count Hughs out. he is the one that offered the match, that meant he sees something (obv. wrestling) that could give him advantage. This actually sound like couture calling out Sylvia, he knew he could beat him, even though at the time people thought he was crazy. Always be on a lookout for peoples names getting called out. Usually means it’s a good fight to lift the fighters stock , or it’s beacause they feel it’s a good matchup and they see something they could capitalise on. But he got nothing on Hughes if he can take the fight into his world….and then no one can say Silva can outwrestel Hughes. This fight would be great. And it would be bad ass if Hughes can win both Belt and then retier. [/quote]
Randy used to train with Tim and owned him in training and with Randy’s improved standup, he was confident he would win. Hughes has no idea of what he is getting into.

I doubt it happens. A GSP rematch is most likely.

I see Hughes retiring after that, win or lose.

The best fight would be for Hendo to drop down. I’d pay double to see that fight.

[quote comment="190481"][quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

not until he beat Fedor[/quote]

Does anyone else feel that Fedor has tarnished his own jeno se qua by not signing with UFC to fight Randy? I personally lost a bit of faith in Fedor after that. I realize business is business but besides the money, the fight is the business. There really is not much of a HW talent pool outside of the UFC.

“the only fight silva looked beatable in was the lutter one
and the reason is he was coming off surgery on both legs”

Ahhh, now I understand…Silva is the Bionic Man. Yeah, it makes sense now.

[quote post="3674"]If you read all my earlier posts you would know I’m from canada and just because hughes couldn’t get gsp down doesn’t mean he can’t get silva down, gsp and hughes are much much better wrestlers than silva is your the one who isn’t making any sense, silva is a horrible wrestler gsp and hughes would get him down no problem, I guess I disagree with almost all the commentors on this page because I think gsp and hughes could take silva if they stuck with ground and pound and think they would win more times than they would lose in 10 fights. Silva is an amazing striker and in his last 4 fights 3 of his victims tried to match blows with him and got koed for there trouble and lutter DID make silva look bad in round one, I just think a good wrestler would give silva some problems. [/quote]
Yeah I agree with this, I think GSP or BJ Penn would be much harder to take down than Anderson, and Hughes has taken them both down before, maybe not a 100% success rate, but he has. I think the second he was able (if) to get past that lethal range, silva would be in trouble. And GSP would have an even better chance to get past the lethal range, so would Penn.
I think any three of those guys could get him to the ground.

[quote comment="190821"]I say have Machida drop down to fight him if not Henderson. Machida just has to cut maybe 10 pounds to fight at middleweight, and would put up a much better fight than Hughes[/quote]
Yohnstoppable I think Lyoto is already cutting close to the most he can. When he fought BJ Penn in k1 I think it was, I’m pretty sure he was at a natural weight of about 235-245. And he looks pretty dang slim at 205. They need to see what he can accomlish at 205. Test him already.

[quote comment="190526"]You guys aren’t getting it, hughes ISN’T franklin and isn’t going to be standing with him and get caught in the clinch. He’ll go for the take downs and hold him there, I’ll predict silva will be the one looking bad and taking a beating on his back most of the fight. Silva’s wrestling in no where near gsp’s and I think gsp could take him down at will too and could also stand with him for a while. Silva looked bad against lutter in the first round, styles make fights people and franklin is a very poor style to fight silva and will get his arse kicked every time, he just loves to stand and bang and I don’t think any mma fighter out could out strike silva. Lutter was the only one with a brain(meaning intelligent game plan to fight silva) silva is crazy good on his feet and the only way I could see anyone right now beating him in by taking him down.[/quote]

I don’t think you get it my friend. Matt Hughes does not have the skills to beat Silva. I am a big Hughes fan but i will not let that blind me to the fact that Silva would destroy him. He is waaaaay too small to get in there. Silva wouldn’t have to lift his knees very high to clock Matt when he goes for the takedown. GSP has a better chance than Hughes but even he would lose. Hendo is the only one to match up nicely with Silva.

Put Anderson in the cage with Godzilla and see what happens. I’d say Godzilla via split decision.

Quinton Jackson and Dan Henderson would’ve been good if they drop in weight and face Silva… still don’t think any of them would win but it would’ve been a good fight.

Matt Hughes is fucked up, he’ll be owned big time!

To be honest Franklin did a good job out there, the best he could.

Anderson Silva vs. Matt Hughes: Silva KO in first or early in second round.

Nevermind Hughes, Serras the man for the job!

[quote comment="190530"][quote comment="190481"][quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

not until he beat Fedor[/quote]
Do you understand what pound for pound means?[/quote]
hahaha… I guess he doesn’t.

[quote comment="190436"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea. If Hughes wins and becomes WW champ, I do not want him moving up to fight Anderson. BECAUSE that would put the WW title on hold for like 8 months – AGAIN. Jon Fitch is due for a #1 contender match, but they haven’t booked one yet becuase Hughes/Serra in Dec. GSP gets winner no sooner than March. Or would Hughes fight Anderson then? SO the soonest anyone besides Hughes or GSP to fight for the WW belt would be June/July/August – assuming there is no Hughes/SIlva fight.

That is not fair to the WW division.[/quote]
VM-what do think the chances are requiring a certain amount of title defenses in a year? If someone can’t defend, then strip the title and have X amount of time to find a new champion. At this rate, a lot of top contenders will be getting their vitamins with geratol instead of xyience.

Hughes would fall round one no doubt.

[quote comment="190928"]Ok I got an Idea, Anderson Silva the baddest mofo’ in the UFC, Mr. Muay Thai “knee in your face” Clinch, Mr. Spider. We all hate Brock Lesnar right, so why don’t we give Brock Lesnar the proper homecoming and put him against Anderson Silva. Silva Vs. Lesnar UFC 80 Exhibition Match. I’ll tell you one thing, when Silva lands that first Muay Thai leg kick, everyone is going to say “It’s a bird, NO! it’s a Plane, NO! it’s ANDERSON SILVA flying out of the octagon!!! cuz that’s what would happen, he would get midget tossed![/quote]

What’s this, the dream you had last night after watching reruns of wrestlemania? The UFC has this thing called weight classes. Anderson is MW (185) Brock is HW (205 , he’s around 260). So unless Brock can cut 75 lbs, it will never happen. Tonight you will probably dream about Big John Stud, The Honkey Tonk Man, and Matt Hughes in a three way dance ladder match.

[quote comment="191117"]Dana is going to have to address the lack of competition in MW. Nobody can beat Rich (otherthen) Silva can’t be beat by any current MW. 1 and 2 spots are not moving anytime soon.

Hughes would get owned, maybe 5 fights ago…and Anderson 5 fights ago this match up would have been more of a competition, Hughes would be better and Anderson worse. But lets all step back into realty here. Anderson DISMANTLED Rich back to back, and stopped Lutter and Marquardt in similar fashion. Hughes is no better then Marquardt in my opinion, w/ similar skill sets (feel free to challenge). Nate’s got youth, speed and likley more power then Hughes and the spider just took over like he was late for dinner and needed to bounce early.

The answer lies beyond the current UFC roster, unless Hendo gives in and cuts the weight.

Anybody tell me if Lyoto Machida could get to 185 and fight Silva? I think his style might make it intersting with Anderson’s attack, i think Lyoto would do a lot of great counter striking AND MAYBE COULD POSSIBLY catch Silva.

BZ[/quote]

I would love for Machida to drop down to MW to fight Anderson Silva. Machida gets no love in the LHW division and he’s a small LHW, so why not? If he beats Anderson, then everyone will know how talented he really is. BUT, if he gets KTFO in the first round, eveyone can stop all this talk about Machida. I want to see him finish a single fight before I even mention his name again. You most likely cannot become a champion in the UFC without the ability to end a fight, unless, you are Sean Sherk, that it. I say that because in a fight, the last thing you want to do is leave it up to the judges. ANd that is exactly what Machida does in all of his fights. One of these times, the decision isn’t going to go his way, even if he thinks he may have won the fight.

[quote comment="192110"][quote comment="190436"]So they would only let Hughes fight Anderson Silva if he beats Serra for the WW belt first? I don’t like that idea. If Hughes wins and becomes WW champ, I do not want him moving up to fight Anderson. BECAUSE that would put the WW title on hold for like 8 months – AGAIN. Jon Fitch is due for a #1 contender match, but they haven’t booked one yet becuase Hughes/Serra in Dec. GSP gets winner no sooner than March. Or would Hughes fight Anderson then? SO the soonest anyone besides Hughes or GSP to fight for the WW belt would be June/July/August – assuming there is no Hughes/SIlva fight.

That is not fair to the WW division.[/quote]
VM-what do think the chances are requiring a certain amount of title defenses in a year? If someone can’t defend, then strip the title and have X amount of time to find a new champion. At this rate, a lot of top contenders will be getting their vitamins with geratol instead of xyience.[/quote]

They UFC would never do something like that (stipping the belt if you don’t defend it X times in a year), but I do agree that each belt should be defended at the very least 3 times a year. There are 5 weight classes, and we can’t even get a title defense on each PPV. That is just stupid. There should also be a requirement that a title must be on the line in order for it to be a PPV. If they had one title up for grabs per PPV, and had one PPV per month, each belt would be defended 2.4 times per year. That is not quite enough in my opinion, so similar to UFC Stacked, they have to have multiple title matches on the same PPV occasionally. Right now, it seems like every division is on hold. From now until the end of the year, only 1, that’s right, ONE belt will be on the line. That’s Hughes/Serra in December. That is STOOPID!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT! Hughes needs to first get past gsp and, serra,because silva would send him to an early grave! Be careful hughes

[quote post="3674"]Brock is HW (205 , he’s around 260)[/quote]

I typed a PLUS sign after 205 that did not show up.

If vera could somehow make 185 he’s a pretty flabby 225 he said he’s 217 at times, would be a good match for silva, he’s tall 6′3 has excellent stand up, great in the clinch (better for taller guys), is a good wrestler, this would be a good fight. Vera needs to lose his baby fat and go down to at least 205 before losing any water maybe he could make 185, does anyone else think this would be a good match?

Height really does seem to make a different especially fighting a tall rangy guy like silva. I think pretty much all of his opponents were shorter than him, which makes that clinch of his all the more effective. I guess I see the point of having a bigger taller 205 drop down to fight him rather than a welter weight move up, size does matter. I know most think I ‘m crazy for saying this but I would LOVE to see silva fight gsp, but right now with gsp’s loss to serra and silva’s devastating wins lately it LOOKS bad for gsp but ya never know, gsp really tends to rise to the occasion when he’s an under dog which he would be against silva. Man would I love to see that fight, even though I’m a big gsp fan and wouldn’t want him to suffer franklins fate. I feel gsp is a better fighter than franklin, faster more athletic, more dynamic on his feet and a better wrestler, it could be a wicked fight. I personally think franklins not all that good and the middle weight division is weak making silva look even better than he is, and he’s very good to begin with, I just think the welter weight division is much deeper with a lot more talent than the middle weight division.

I like the Brandon Vera match up, but it would never happen.
The match up does nothing for eithers careers at this point.
Anderson has made every indication (without actually saying it on more then just a couple of occasions) that he is a FIRM MW and will not be moving out of that class. Vera wouldn’t want to abondon his dreams of a HW/LHW title run before at least a couple more loses. BUT, he could probably get the weight off.
If Vera got stumped at HW he could switch it up to go after a MW/LHW, but i would need to hear it from him before i would ever believe it.

I’m still feeling Machida v. Silva. They already have one thing in common right? Somebody get that going.

BZ.

For those saying Hughes wouldn’t stand with Silva, I don’t buy it. Hughes has a HUGE EGO and if he starts hearing he will not stand a chance standing up, then he will want to prove them wrong. He did it against GSP and got burned. He was also losing the stand-up against BJ before BJ broke his rib.

I bet Matt doesnt want to see his nose broken . I would be looking for a good surgeon if I was the guy that had to fight Anderson next.He is a nose breaker, he walked through Rich again something I didnt expect.The only fighter I believe can beat Anderson is GSP if he wants to fight in the 185 division,otherwise I dont see anybobody being able to do this.Herdenson has a good chance now to achieve something meaningful. Anderson does not throw anything that doesn’t land. Amazing!

[quote comment="191793"]Put Anderson in the cage with Godzilla and see what happens. I’d say Godzilla via split decision.[/quote]

LOL!!!

I think Quick Swick would be a good matchup for Silva. He’s quicker than Silva and has both knockout power and really fast submissions. Plus he beat Loiseau who has many fighting characteristics like Silva.

I can completely understand why pple say Matt would get beat down…But i actually think Matt would give Silva a tougher fight than any one hes fought so far in the UFC. Up until this point Silva has been great but he hasnt faught against an elite wrestler, and I think thats where Silvas biggest weakness is. I think Matt Hughes would be able to take him down.

[quote comment="193643"]I can completely understand why pple say Matt would get beat down…But i actually think Matt would give Silva a tougher fight than any one hes fought so far in the UFC. Up until this point Silva has been great but he hasnt faught against an elite wrestler, and I think thats where Silvas biggest weakness is. I think Matt Hughes would be able to take him down.[/quote]
agreed

[quote comment="190990"][quote comment="190871"][quote comment="190733"][quote comment="190728"][quote comment="190569"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.

A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.[/quote]

But think about the Franca vs Sherk fight & how many knees Sherk took shooting in (I use Sherk as an example because his style is an exact clone of Hughes). Now imagine Sherk being Hughes & those knees coming from Silva instead of Franca.[/quote]

ok, now imagine silva and hughes on steroids[/quote]

Have you seen the Hughes vs Sherk fight? It was like watching 2 clones go at it…..I digress.

I used the above example as a visual aid.

The point i was trying to quickly make was this:

1.) Hughes would continually shoot on Silva in much the same manner that Sherk did on Franca. As we all saw, Franca landed some vicious knees each time Sherk went for the takedown.

2.) Look at the height disparity between Silva & Franklin and pay attention to how easily Silva landed devastating knee strikes in both of their fights.

3.) When you look at the increased height advantage that Silva has over Hughes in comparison to the one he had over Franklin it translates to Silva landing those knees in devastating fashion with the greatest of ease.

It’s obvious that Franklin is physically stronger than Hughes so someone please tell me how Hughes intends to handle Silva’s clinch? he isnt even close to half the striker Franklin is & its much easier for a man of Silva’s height to control a much shorter fighter like Matt. Yes Hughes will take him down repeatedly but each time Silva stands up (& he will get up every time) Hughes will become gradually slower as the fight wanes on & Silva will begin to predict Matt’s takedown attempts & the knees will come flying in.

Not to mention the fact that each time Silva defends or stands up from a takedown, Matt will be forced to stand & trade for increasingly longer periods of time between each of his takedown attempts.

I dont care for Matt but I do have tremendous respect for his fighting ability. With that being said, he only has one tool with which to beat Silva & thats his GnP. Silva on the other hand has every tool in the book available to him. Styles do make fights but if Silva can nullify Matt’s GnP then its only a matter of time before ole’ Hughes takes a nap.[/quote]
Dude Franklin is not stronger than Hughes is just because you are heavier doesnt mean your stronger besides you cannot compare Hughes ability to take ppl down to Franklin dont get me wrong I think Franklin was doing very well against Silva in the 2nd fight but its as if mentally he broke as soon as Silva got the first clinch, you can see it its crazy Silva didnt land any shots the first 2 or 3 times he got Franklin in the clinch but Franklin kind of 2nd guessed his abilities and just got scared to lose the same way he did the 1st time and sure enough it happened again I believe that Franklin was winning that fight up until he lost confidence in him self more than anything. Now watch Silva vs Lutter as Lutter shoots to take him down he throws a crazy telegraphic knee that Lutter dodges and then he gets taken down, If lutter had the ability that Hughes has on the ground he would have finished that fight. Watch Silva vs Marquardt same thing telegraphic knee dodged and Silva on the ground the mistake that Nate did was not put all his weight on Silva and just hold on to him to prevent from him standing up, I believe Hughes will not make that mistake he will dodge the knee and controll Silva in the bottom then either pound him out or submitt him.[/quote]

………but what happened after the takedown………that’s what i’m talking about if you thoroughly read my post.

As far as strength is concerned, when you’re talking about & comparing 2 world-class atheletes; Franklin used to fight at 205 & his walk around weight is about 215 where Hughes fights at 170 & walks around at about 185-ish. Again, when we’re talking about 2 world-class atheletes, in most cases, the bigger guy will be the stronger.

[quote comment="191099"]It’s obvious that Franklin is physically stronger than Hughes so someone please tell me how Hughes intends to handle Silva’s clinch? he isnt even close to half the striker Franklin is & its much easier for a man of Silva’s height to control a much shorter fighter like Matt. Yes Hughes will take him down repeatedly but each time Silva stands up (& he will get up every time) Hughes will become gradually slower as the fight wanes on & Silva will begin to predict Matt’s takedown attempts & the knees will come flying in.

I don’t know if Hughes could win. But I wouldnt bet against him. Franklin is larger but possiby not stronger. Effective strength is what matters not how much you can lift. Frankline could most likely bench way more and squat way more etc. But the effective strength is clearly different. They Said Anderson had to cut 5 pounds to make weight on the PPV telecast. Hughes walks around at 190. They are about the same size. Watch how Ryo Chonan dealt with Anderson’s knees. That is the same thing Hughes will do. I also dont understand why people think Anderson could just stand up when Hughes takes him down. I have never seen anyone just get up when Hughes took them down. I think Hughes Silva would be a very good fight.[/quote]

We’re not talking about 2 random citizens who differ in size & work out at the same gym here. Again…..2 world class athletes…Franklin is roughly 25-lbs heavier & you’re telling me that he’s not overall stronger than Hughes?

[quote comment="191117"]Dana is going to have to address the lack of competition in MW. Nobody can beat Rich (otherthen) Silva can’t be beat by any current MW. 1 and 2 spots are not moving anytime soon.

Hughes would get owned, maybe 5 fights ago…and Anderson 5 fights ago this match up would have been more of a competition, Hughes would be better and Anderson worse. But lets all step back into realty here. Anderson DISMANTLED Rich back to back, and stopped Lutter and Marquardt in similar fashion. Hughes is no better then Marquardt in my opinion, w/ similar skill sets (feel free to challenge). Nate’s got youth, speed and likley more power then Hughes and the spider just took over like he was late for dinner and needed to bounce early.

The answer lies beyond the current UFC roster, unless Hendo gives in and cuts the weight.

Anybody tell me if Lyoto Machida could get to 185 and fight Silva? I think his style might make it intersting with Anderson’s attack, i think Lyoto would do a lot of great counter striking AND MAYBE COULD POSSIBLY catch Silva.

BZ[/quote]

Styles make fights & Machida has the perfect style to maybe not necessarily win but at least give Silva some real trouble.

Hughes on the other hand only has 1 tool at his disposal & if Silva can nullify that tool he can win by sub, KO or GnP. My motto is “rock, paper, scissors”.

You take away any 1 of Silva’s tools & he still has 2 others that are razor sharp and can be used to end the fight. You take away Matts ONLY TOOL & he becomes a sitting duck.

GSP vs Hughes II is a prime example. Regardless of whether you believe that Hughes never went for a takedown or you believe that after GSP stuffed Hughes on true takedown attempt, the point is that without the takedowns which lead to the GnP, Hughes is incapable of finishing a fight any other way.

[quote comment="191490"][quote post="3674"]Gsp made hughes look bad because gsp has the best take down defense in the ufc, if you doubt it watch the best wrestler in mma(koscheck) try to take him down in the third round. Hughes would get silva down and wouldn’t stop with the take down attempts.
A powerful wrestler, hughes or gsp has a great shot at silva in my book but I agree hendo probably has the best chance at dethroning silva. Hughes might even fair better than gsp because gsp is a striker and might try to stand too long with him and get caught. STYLES really do make fights just because silva makes franklin look like crap doesn’t mean he’s unbeatable, he’s just next to it in a kick boxing match but this is mma. This is rock paper scissors, for instance gsp might have hughes number, silva might beat gsp and hughes might beat silva its all about styles. Hughes might not stand with silva at all and take him down immediately, gsp might want to stand and bang and get koed I want to see silva fight some good wrestlers not mediocre strikers anymore.
chucks got the best takedown defence and silva would destroy gsp and hughes.dont get me wrong gsps got a strikers chance but silva is that good. hes the number 1 p4p mmartist in the world at the moment period.
I totally disagree [/quote]
GSP has better takedown defence than Chuck.[/quote]

I’ll take it one step further & say Chuck has a great “sprawl” but only average take down defense.

[quote comment="191570"][quote comment="190481"][quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

not until he beat Fedor[/quote]

Does anyone else feel that Fedor has tarnished his own jeno se qua by not signing with UFC to fight Randy? I personally lost a bit of faith in Fedor after that. I realize business is business but besides the money, the fight is the business. There really is not much of a HW talent pool outside of the UFC.[/quote]

But did you notice that Fedor’s new contract allows him to fight in any promotion he chooses provided the 2 companies can reach an agreement? Also, theres a clause in his new contract that states that M-1 must pay the UFC champ an additional 1million on top of whatever their UFC contrac pay would be for that fight. I think that contract kills any speculation about Fedor being afraid to fight Randy or anyone else for that matter.

Anderson is awesome, period. Matt Hughes is good, And I think Anderson Silva would beat Matt, but I want to see who would win between Anderson and George St. Pierre, they are two of my favourite fighters and they would put on one of the best fights in UFC history. Who would win??? To tough to call.

Silva would have a good chance to knock both P4P versions of Hughes and GSP out, but a P4P BJ Penn would be impossible to knock out (Hawaiin cabeza) and he has DEVASTATING striking and world-class BJJ. My order of fights for Silva in this fantasyland would be BJ Penn, GSP, Hughes. But we’re all left to fantasyland, because the UFC middleweight division is so weak.

Here’s my fearless prediction (based on my humbling over the past year–some might call it humiliation!) for this weight-class: by this time next year, there will be a completely new heirarchy of fighters. Hardly anyone from the top 5 in the UFC will still be in the top 5. BAM!!!

Now that’s prognostication!

For the record, the ratings from Sherdog for middleweight as of today are:
1. Anderson Silva
2. Paulo Filho (why is he rated above Dan Henderson?)
3. Dan Henderson (not fighting in this weight class today but is Pride Middleweight champ)
4. Rich Franklin (interestingly enough has fought only one of the top five in this weight class)
5. Matt Lindland (recently fought Fedor–boy’s got some Cojones!)

Count me as another who thinks most people on this board underestimate Matt vs. Silva. I hate hughes and want to see this fight mostly because Matt stands a good chance of being rendered unconscious, but he also could win. He has one loss in the last 3 years he has like 25 more fights and 3 less losses than Couture I think reports of his demise are exaggerated.

Rich Franklin is a lot like Chuck Liddell a good sriker who knows how to keep a fight standing this was a great response to the era when ground and pound was dominant, he took grapplers out of their element and hammered them, but against somebody who prefers to stand he is not really dominant. Yes he is physically stronger than hughes overall but maybe not in the core area and far more importantly:

HE IS NOT A WRESTLER. ALL DOMINANT CLINCH/GROUND AND POUND PEOPLE IN UFC HAVE A DEEP WRESTLING BACKGROUND, not just big biceps, my friends. Knowing how to keep those dominant top positions is basically what wrestling is about. Look at Couture I mean is that what you saw in the Belfort and Gonzaga fights? This muscleman overrpowering his opponents and forcing them to the ground with brute strength? I saw a guy outweighed and far older immobilizing his opponent backing them into corners and using superior leverage to achieve takedowns then further utilising brains and wrestling skills to keep his opponent down sapp their energy and pound them. Hughes is 2 time all-America Franklin has no wrestling pedigree at all. Perhaps more relevant I would agree with posters who pointed out that Lutter achieved side control several times even though the guy was flabby and gassed after one round. That alone tells me that Silva’s takedown D is not top tier. Hughes is obviously a lot better on the ground than Travis. Anyways Silva is probably the best stand-up guy pound for pound in MMA, but overall it is hard to rank him ahead of Rampage who just took out Chuck and Hendo in consecutive fights those guys were both far better (proven against tough competition) than Franklin (whose most impressive victim is probably Tanner) and matched up better with Quentin. Hughes is old and not likable but it would be an interesting fight.

this is the easiest question to anwser silva would destroy hughs is the man but i dont think anyone can beat silva he is just to good he will hold his title for atleast 3 years

[quote comment="190428"]Anderson Silva is the best fighter in the world pound per pound right now.[/quote]

I think it’s a little soon to be saying that Silva is #1 in the world. He’s lost 4 times. He has been beaten. He doesn’t fare as well when the fighters do play into his game plan