Former champions Chuck Liddell (20-5) and Wanderlei Silva (31-7-1) will indeed clash in a light heavyweight super fight at UFC 79: “Nemesis” on December 29 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.
UFC President Dana White made the highly anticipated (and well-known) announcement during a commercial break for the 2007 Scream Awards on the Spike television network this evening.
Here’s a bit of what he had to say:
“This is the most anticipated fight in the history of mixed martial arts…. It is the perfect way to end 2007.”
Fans can now take a collective deep sigh of relief because even though all signs pointed to a match up between the two icons it was never really official until it came from the UFC brass.
The fight has been on-and-off since both 205-pound fighters held the belts in their respective organizations — Liddell for the UFC and Silva for PRIDE FC.
It almost went down during a tournament-style event back in 2003, PRIDE: Final Conflict. Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, however, played the role of spoiler that night, taking out “The Iceman” in the semifinals in an upset.
He went on to lose later that night to “The Axe Murderer.”
Since that time the bout between Liddell and Silva has taken on a life of its own. In fact, when the two were reigning champions back in 2006, White made the bold move of bringing Silva into the Octagon and announced that the two champions would finally square off.
It never happened for various reasons.
Then earlier this year, as the PRIDE organization was about to fold, Silva was knocked out by Dan Henderson, losing his middleweight title.
At the time, White said that PRIDE had thrown away the biggest fight in the history of the sport.
That is until Liddell lost his belt to Rampage three months later at UFC 71, and then lost his next fight against Keith Jardine — a fight in which fans were teased again with the potential showdown.
“The Dean of Mean” stepped in for Silva at UFC 76 last month after negotiations on a date for the bout with the Brazilian fell through at the last minute.
Finally … After all these years and teases the fight is booked once and for all. And even if it doesn’t have the same value in terms of declaring an international or unified champion, it will settle one of the longest-running (and perhaps most intriguing) debates in the relatively brief history of MMA:
Who wins a fight between Chuck Liddell and Wanderlei Silva?
We’ll find out on New Year’s Eve weekend.
See … Dreams really do come true.
For the most recent rumored UFC 79 fight card click here. Note: UFC.com has also issued an official press release on the fight that can be found here.
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1st
Psike? Is that a new station?
How funny would it be if the fight ends in a draw and we never get closure lol.
[quote comment="191469"]How funny would it be if the fight ends in a draw and we never get closure lol.[/quote]
ROFL
Go Wandy!
[quote comment="191462"]1st[/quote]
you’re a clown.
What happens to liddel if he looses this fight? Career over?
I’m just relieved I don’t have to write about this potential fight anymore.
yea that’s true it’s finally official and Liddell is probably pissed off after 2 losses so let’s see if he gets caught again…
[quote comment="191497"]yea that’s true it’s finally official and Liddell is probably pissed off after 2 losses so let’s see if he gets caught again…[/quote]
What if he gets caught again? I wonder where he’ll go from there. Whatever, if either one of these guys lose it will be 3 straight but who’s counting?
*Did the doc really see his skull?
he didn’t really see his skull….he called him a num-skull
I see Liddell retiring after this loss. We will miss the great Champion
Both guys have lost their past two fights. Whichever guy loses for the third straight time, you almost have to ask: Ok, what now? Give up fighting completely or become a top 10 gatekeeper like Tito. Those look like the options available to me for the loser.
What’s this fight even mean anymore? It’s kind of pointless. If Wandy wins he’ll just be in a long list of people that have beat Chuck Liddell and if chuck wins it sure does say a lot about Wandy and will add to the stigma that PRIDE fighters either have come to UFC out of shape or they just aren’t as good (’page and silva as the exception rather than the rule). I’d rather see Wandy fight a top contender like Houston or Rashad. (I didn’t include Jardine bc he already proved himself on Liddell or Griffin bc he already proved himself against Shogun).
Fucken-A Baby!! Let’s Get It On!
Liddell was a force to be reckoned with at one point, I don’t think this is that point any more. Happens to everyone though sooner or later, hell Ken Shamrock used to be the man.
i feel the next ice age coming on….
if lidell looses this fight he shloud retire or go to another org. like wec
rampage got famous in pride he had no problem converting to octogan
i see chuck retiring if he loses if wandy loses he will fight one mor time before he gives up
wec champ looks like an easy fight for either wandy or liddell could go over their mop up div retire as champ (2nd rate champ) but a champ
doug marshall 6-2-0 inexperienced walk in park for liddell
glory be!
throw in some fighters that are trash to fill this event and this card will still be amazing…
is say if wandy wins give him a title shot against his bitter rival rampage jackson and if he loses give him a chance to avenge his loss to tito ortiz. for chuck if he wins give him another big name fight maybe against forrest griffin tell me that wouldnt be and awesome fight. and if chuck loses i have no idea what to do with him i guess he can fight tito again since we all know he has his number.
25TH Ya!!! freakin douch rocket
Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..
[quote comment="191569"]is say if wandy wins give him a title shot against his bitter rival rampage jackson and if he loses give him a chance to avenge his loss to tito ortiz. for chuck if he wins give him another big name fight maybe against forrest griffin tell me that wouldnt be and awesome fight. and if chuck loses i have no idea what to do with him i guess he can fight tito again since we all know he has his number.[/quote]
I love all your ideas except for the last one. I don’t care if Liddell is 97 years old he would still beat Tito because Tito is damaged goods when it comes to fighting Chuck.
I think if Wandy wins he should have to fight Keith Jardine…only because he got owned by Houston. Then the winners of the next Houston fight and the Jardine vs. Liddell/Wandy fight could square off, kinda like a tourny.
I have never agreed with how they setup title shots, I think a tourny would be the most unbiased way to do so. Honestly if you look at victories I think Houston should be fighting Rampage already, he hasn’t had a tough fight yet that I can think of off hand.
Just my .02 cents…
Rubin
Everyone says that The Iceman is washed up, with is BS… I do recall everyone on this site saying GSP didn’t have the mental toughness to compete blah blah blah, and that KOS was going to take him out.. We’ll that didn’t happpen… Let’s see Liddell lost to Rampage who just schooled Henderson, and he lost to Jardine who knocked out Forest who just beat shogun? BTW, he looked awesome during the first round agaisnt Jardine, except something rare happen he didn’t knock him out but beat his azzzz.
All that said, Liddell vs Axe Murderer will be a great fight.
The potentional knock-out of this fight will be great! Why is this a good fight?
Are these 2 fighter’s a good match-up for eachother? Why?
Can this fight go all 3 rounds? REally?
Will it end in the first 2 mins?
Wandy’s aggressive in your face style can get hem KO’ed
Chuck likes to be chased! So Wandy comes in, One shot to the face by Chuck, it’s night night for Wandy
Wandy goes in and chases Chuck, Chuck get’s one on the chin, it’s career over for Chuck.
Is that why this fight is so good?
29th
[quote comment="191596"]Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..[/quote]
yea i know i figured if he loses that is three in a row and i dont think anybody wants to see him lose four in a row including the ufc and we all know that he will not and cannot lose to tito. I know it is a pretty stupid idea but at the time i couldnt think of anything better but i like your idea of having him fight alexander it would give houston a chance to prove he is for real if he can get by his next oppenent at ufc 78.
Man, this is a fight that I wish would have taken place a year ago, before Chuck’s and Wanderlei’s back to back losses. Seeing Chuck lose to Jardine showed just how wrong the nay sayers were about Jackson’s win over him being a fluke. And Wanderlei, man is it me or has he gotten really rough looking an old since we’ve last seen him in PrideFC?
Sigh. Even still, I’ve been waiting on this one for a long time. I that that is a dangerous thing for the UFC, there has been a long time for old hype to simmer and build up around this fight, if this thing turns out to be a stinker it would leave leave alot of egg on Dana White’s face from all those years of anticipation we fight fans have had to endure.
Stupid typos… I meant to say “I think that is a dangerous thing for the UFC…”
Yar.
[quote comment="191550"]doug marshall 6-2-0 inexperienced walk in park for liddell[/quote]
lol yeah – marshall got KTFO but James Irvin lol
[quote comment="191537"]rampage got famous in pride he had no problem converting to octogan[/quote]
Yeah, I said ‘page (meaning rampage) and anderson silva were the exception to the rule.
If Chuck loses this one its bye bye, maybe thats a good motivation for him to win! He’s got nothing to lose now for sure, but if he loses, his name will definately fade away as a “has been champion.” Personally I think Chuck has some mental issues to work out, and once he does, watch out Wandy! I’ll be pulling for Chuck, because if Wandy loses at least he still has some other fights that would be sweet to watch and he will have more excuses to lose than Chuck, such as its been a long time since he fought in the cage, ring rust ect. I want Chuck to beat Wandy so maybe they will let Tito fight Wandy after that.
Go Chucko! This is going to be a good brawl either way.
liddel 1st round knockout hes due for a knockout
There’s one thing I just don’t get: why does it seem so bloody hard to create lots of awesome fights? Dana owns the rights to all of these fighters and their fights, why not have some for every single card? Bisping and Evans? Of all the fighters that are eager and willing to fight the most bigtime fight ever, and he comes up with Bisping/Evans? The options are endless and this is all he comes up with? Am I missing something? I haven’t been watching for too long, so it just seems weird.
liddell is over rated
Chuck not adapting his training or fighting style or coming up with clever gameplans and strategys is his down fall he is a dying breed of a one dimensional fighter in MMA.
As long as Wanderlie can avoid chuks power punches in the first round wandy will hand him his third straight loss and push him into retirement
Wanderlei Silva by KO in first or second round.
I’m just glad to see the fight happening. Both guys are great fighters and this should be a good match up. Neither of these guys are washed up and both have some good fights left in them. In MMA anything can happen and it’s very tough staying at the top, that’s what makes it so awesome for the fans. You are always going to see upsets from the new comers and come backs from the older fighters. I wish both of them the best and can’t wait to see the fight.
[quote comment="191495"]I’m just relieved I don’t have to write about this potential fight anymore.[/quote]
LOL
the pic is cool – the iceman is like ” yeh bitch, what u gon’ do ?! “
Chuck is all done. Stick a fork in him. It is going to be a glorious day when Wandy ends the Lidell era.
Wow! I’m… (yaaawn) so excited to see this finally… zzzzzz….
I hate to be a Liddell hater but I’m no longer interested in seeing him fight. I hope Silva still has something and can put the Iceman down and out. Silva was exciting for so many years and he could be a great contender.
[quote comment="191531"]if lidell looses this fight he shloud retire or go to another org. like wec[/quote]
That’s a pretty dum thing to say. Hell, most of these anti-Chuck comments are pretty insensitive to the fact that he’s been extremely dominating, though lost 2 in a row ‘possibly’ at the end of his career. Just another example of a dominating fighter losing fickle fans when he’s having a rough time.
Wandy is one of my favorite fighters and so is Chuck. I have mixed emotions about this fight but I just hope those were all just rumors about the whole Chute Box Acadamey being juiced up and all. If wandy gases like his boy shogun did than Lidell will dominate. I just hope to see a good fight who ever wins it doesn’t matter to me. You can’t say either one of these guys are done after this fight because they are both still at least in the top ten lhw’s in the world. I don’t think losing for either one of these guys would be a career ending situation.
comon chuck!!! u win this and you get a title shot!!! Beat Rampage and then retire!!!
After such a long wait on this I guess I’m a bit under excited.
Had this fight happened before Just lost 2x I may have been a bit more on board.
One thing that pisses me off is how all you so called fans of Chuck Lidell were all rooting and cheering for the man when he had the belt. But then he loses a few fights to good fighters and all of the sudden he needs to retire. I don’t jump band wagons that quick it’s kind of like those friends you thought were your friends but when you reach your lowest point they are nowhere to be found. If the man ever needed support from his fans it’s now and when he comes out of his slump I don’t want to here any of you haters saying how good of a fighter he is and so on. Where were you at when he needed you the most?
Simply put, Chuck Liddell is a little too intelligent for Wanderlei Silva. Silva will probably trade with Liddell whenever Liddell is looking to do so. Wanderlei looks like a retarded monkey on acid and he will play right in to Chuck’s hand (an overhand right one at that). Chuck will execute a disciplined style of jabs and it will frustrate the heck out of Wanderlei who will ultimately try and rush Chuck like one of those people from 28 days later who was infectd with RAGE. End result : Silva takes a lil nap.
[quote comment="191881"]Chuck not adapting his training or fighting style or coming up with clever gameplans and strategys is his down fall he is a dying breed of a one dimensional fighter in MMA.
As long as Wanderlie can avoid chuks power punches in the first round wandy will hand him his third straight loss and push him into retirement[/quote]
dude thats like saying as long as Chuck avoids Wandys clinch Chuck will hand Wandy his 3rd loss
[quote comment="192133"]One thing that pisses me off is how all you so called fans of Chuck Lidell were all rooting and cheering for the man when he had the belt. But then he loses a few fights to good fighters and all of the sudden he needs to retire. I don’t jump band wagons that quick it’s kind of like those friends you thought were your friends but when you reach your lowest point they are nowhere to be found. If the man ever needed support from his fans it’s now and when he comes out of his slump I don’t want to here any of you haters saying how good of a fighter he is and so on. Where were you at when he needed you the most?[/quote]
He’s a fighter, not my buddy. I’d rather see Wandi fighting for the title than Chuck, who is just not very fun to watch fight anymore, plus he’s getting old.
Here is to Wanderlei by 2nd Round TKO!
[quote comment="191495"]I’m just relieved I don’t have to write about this potential fight anymore.[/quote]
LOL.
[quote comment="192126"]comon chuck!!! u win this and you get a title shot!!! Beat Rampage and then retire!!![/quote]
I think after he beats Wandy he will have to fight one more contender like Forrest, or Shogun then title shot.
well it’s about time this fight happens!
I am a fan of both Wandy and Chuck, so it’s hard for me to say who id rather see win.
Espeacially since either fighter will suffer a 3 fight losing streak with a loss.
oh well’….cant wait!!!
If Chuck loses this I think he’s finished. He’s old and you can’t compare him with Randy who is a freak of nature. I think it’s different for Wandy, he lost to Crocop when the croatian was at the height of his powers (plus CC is a HW albeit a small one). Dan Henderson is no slouch either. I think Hollywood is way better than Jardine and I’m still struggling to get my head around the fact Liddell lost to Jardine.
Wanderlei isn’t that old, some might say he is physically old; all that wear and tear an what not. But he’s taken time off and is only what 31/32.
That’s just how I see it. I really feel a loss is more damaging for Chuck than Wandy.
Go Wan!!!!
[quote comment="192133"]One thing that pisses me off is how all you so called fans of Chuck Lidell were all rooting and cheering for the man when he had the belt. But then he loses a few fights to good fighters and all of the sudden he needs to retire. I don’t jump band wagons that quick it’s kind of like those friends you thought were your friends but when you reach your lowest point they are nowhere to be found. If the man ever needed support from his fans it’s now and when he comes out of his slump I don’t want to here any of you haters saying how good of a fighter he is and so on. Where were you at when he needed you the most?[/quote]
I’ve thought his head was too big to fit that belt for awhile now – hell, I was rooting for Tito a year ago. I’ve always respected Chuck but there’s nothing better than seeing some cocky dude get knocked off his hill and taste a little humble pie.
[quote post="3680"]comon chuck!!! u win this and you get a title shot!!! Beat Rampage and then retire!!![/quote]
[quote post="3680"]I think after he beats Wandy he will have to fight one more contender like Forrest, or Shogun then title shot. [/quote]
I agree.
A win over wandy in December should not grant Chuck a title shot.
If Chuck wins he would most likly fight Forrest for #1 contender or somthing.
I would rather see him fight Sho if he beats Wandy. That would be cool to see him fight back2back chute/box fighters.
but like Ive said. “i am a fan of both wandy and chuck”
and one of them is going on a 3 fight losing streak after 79, so im not sure who im routing for.
I don’t care about the circumstances of the fight, or how many they’ve lost prior to this. If we don’t see this fight, we’ll all be questioning the outcome for years to come. For my sanity to be intact, the fight has to go down.
[quote comment="191596"]Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..[/quote]
DAMN!! I like those scenarios!
[quote comment="192104"][quote comment="191531"]if lidell looses this fight he shloud retire or go to another org. like wec[/quote]
That’s a pretty dum thing to say. Hell, most of these anti-Chuck comments are pretty insensitive to the fact that he’s been extremely dominating, though lost 2 in a row ‘possibly’ at the end of his career. Just another example of a dominating fighter losing fickle fans when he’s having a rough time.[/quote]
Personally, I’ve never been a Chuck fan & never will be. I’ve always said to anyone who would listen that Chuck is:
1.) Overrated
2.) One-dimensional
He only shined against other one-dimensional fighters. I wish I could sit in the same room with you Chuck fans & analyze fight footage from his title reign so I could point out some things to you all that were obviously overlooked by you guys. He’s a respectable fighter but nowhere near as great as many of you think. Mainly because he never cultivated his MMA toolbox & lazily relied only on his KO power. He rarely out-fought his opponents & mostly sat back & waited for a mistake to capitalize on.
I wish people would take the time to read as many of the comments as possible in any of these forums. There’s a wealth of information & points of view that are extremely educational about MMA & fighter skill-sets throughout.
I know that theres plenty of fodder posted too but it wont take long before you realize who’s a troller vs the people who post valid comments.
Those who simply comment on the article & then move on or just focus on argueing against one person’s specific post without reading many of the others are totally missing out. Heck, some of you dont even read the entire article/listen to the interview/watch the video clip before posting some useless, nonsense that’s often invalid.
By ignoring all of this information you perpetrate your own ignorance of the sport.
[quote comment="192335"]I wish people would take the time to read as many of the comments as possible in any of these forums. There’s a wealth of information & points of view that are extremely educational about MMA & fighter skill-sets throughout.
I know that theres plenty of fodder posted too but it wont take long before you realize who’s a troller vs the people who post valid comments.
Those who simply comment on the article & then move on or just focus on argueing against one person’s specific post without reading many of the others are totally missing out. Heck, some of you dont even read the entire article/listen to the interview/watch the video clip before posting some useless, nonsense that’s often invalid.
By ignoring all of this information you perpetrate your own ignorance of the sport.[/quote]
Well written!
Fans r funny. Everyone is ready to give up on the UFC posterboy(Liddell). Personally, I could care less if these two warriors are on a 2 fight loosing streak. Chuck lost to Rampage, no shame in that. Jardine he should have beat. Wandy lost to Crop cop in an open weight tournament, No shame in that, and he lost to Henderson (he was very sick that night), No shame in that. For years Liddell and Wandy have fought and beaten some of the best fighters in the world. So they lost 2 fights? So what? i think both Liddell and Wandy still have the ability to go on a tear. Do I think either will hold the UFC title again, NO. But so what, that doesnt mean that they cant go to war with other tough up and comming fighters. No matter what Liddell and Wandy will still bnoth be way better than Tito, and he still has a job.
If wandy wins he should fight either Rampage, or Forrest.
If wandy looses, he should fight Henderson for a 3rd time.
If Liddell wins he should fight Shogun, forrest, or Hendo
If Liddell looses he should fight the winner of Rashad/Bisping or Alexander.
if there is a god, no injuries will sideline this fight.
machine — besides ko power chucks got the best takedown defence in the busines.here u go pick the holes in this.belfour(regarded as one of the best in the world at the time)covincingly beat.white lions den fighter good striker k-1)destroyed.randy(p4p top 3 ufc fighter ever)destroyed twice.horn(one of the best ground guys ever to grace mma destroyed.babalu(top jujitsu guy decent striker)destroyed.tito(future uifc hall of famer probably)destroyed.pick the bones out of that.
[quote comment="191524"]What’s this fight even mean anymore? It’s kind of pointless. If Wandy wins he’ll just be in a long list of people that have beat Chuck Liddell and if chuck wins it sure does say a lot about Wandy and will add to the stigma that PRIDE fighters either have come to UFC out of shape or they just aren’t as good (’page and silva as the exception rather than the rule). I’d rather see Wandy fight a top contender like Houston or Rashad. (I didn’t include Jardine bc he already proved himself on Liddell or Griffin bc he already proved himself against Shogun).[/quote]
It obviously doesnt mean half as much.
It’s happening for the sake of it happening.
[quote comment="192193"][quote comment="192126"]comon chuck!!! u win this and you get a title shot!!! Beat Rampage and then retire!!![/quote]
I think after he beats Wandy he will have to fight one more contender like Forrest, or Shogun then title shot.[/quote]
No way, man!
He’ll probably have to beat 4 more guys in a row to get another shot…the UFC pretty much already knows he’s on his way out so he’ll need to prove himself all over again and have to string a handful of victories to let ‘em know he’s back. And he’ll need to KO his opponents for them to take notice. And it sure as hell aint gonna happen if Rampage is still champ. not any time soon.
(assuming these guys are still contenders)
Beat:
Henderson
Forrest
Houston
Machida
the best thing we can hope for is for the both of them to come out in great shape and have a great fight.
WHO CARES, THEY BOTH SUCK!!!
[quote comment="191512"]I see Liddell retiring after this loss. We will miss the great Champion[/quote]
fat fucking change pal. liddell will plant him like a tree. chutebox is born to eat liddell’s right hand. WAR Chuck!
[quote comment="192361"]machine — besides ko power chucks got the best takedown defence in the busines.here u go pick the holes in this.belfour(regarded as one of the best in the world at the time)covincingly beat.white lions den fighter good striker k-1)destroyed.randy(p4p top 3 ufc fighter ever)destroyed twice.horn(one of the best ground guys ever to grace mma destroyed.babalu(top jujitsu guy decent striker)destroyed.tito(future uifc hall of famer probably)destroyed.pick the bones out of that.[/quote]
Haha nice comment, but my question is how will Chuck fair against a muy thai striker like Wandy? I’ve never seen Chuck fight agianst a muy thai striker….should be interesting, I believe Chuck has a reach advantage and hes definately taller, so who knows, I’m just hoping for a good fight and not a 2 min KO in the 1st round. I at least want it to go to round 2, thanks!
I think it is too soon for chuck to fight!. His ego is bruised, and he wants to quickly get onwinning track but what wandy beats him!?I think chuck will retire!
WOW, Fight of the Year….If it happened 3 years ago. But who has MORE to lose here? Can we put a “Loser must retire” stipulation on this? If so i’m hoping for a DRAW so these two washed up has beens will step aside for the future of MMA.
I hope silva corners chuck puts him in a thai clinch and knee strikes him to sleep.
SIlVa Wins he fights Rampage
I liked chuck until he put that half-as performance against Jardine. Not even Jardine was happy to win that poor excuse for a fight.
I see 3 losses in a row for Chuck.
Good way to go away.
[quote comment="192361"]machine — besides ko power chucks got the best takedown defence in the busines.here u go pick the holes in this.belfour(regarded as one of the best in the world at the time)covincingly beat.white lions den fighter good striker k-1)destroyed.randy(p4p top 3 ufc fighter ever)destroyed twice.horn(one of the best ground guys ever to grace mma destroyed.babalu(top jujitsu guy decent striker)destroyed.tito(future uifc hall of famer probably)destroyed.pick the bones out of that.[/quote]
I never said Chuck was a piss-poor fighter. I’m just saying I like to see cocky guys get a taste of humble pie. He got cocky and he got lazy in his fight preparation. Even if your game plan is devestating other fighters over and over, if you don’t switch it up a little bit and train for each fighter individually, it makes it easy for other fighters to find a weakness and that’s exactly what Jardine did.
Let’s face it – no WAY he could beat Randy now.
[quote comment="192190"][quote comment="192133"]One thing that pisses me off is how all you so called fans of Chuck Lidell were all rooting and cheering for the man when he had the belt. But then he loses a few fights to good fighters and all of the sudden he needs to retire. I don’t jump band wagons that quick it’s kind of like those friends you thought were your friends but when you reach your lowest point they are nowhere to be found. If the man ever needed support from his fans it’s now and when he comes out of his slump I don’t want to here any of you haters saying how good of a fighter he is and so on. Where were you at when he needed you the most?[/quote]
He’s a fighter, not my buddy. I’d rather see Wandi fighting for the title than Chuck, who is just not very fun to watch fight anymore, plus he’s getting old.
Here is to Wanderlei by 2nd Round TKO![/quote]
Lets see what he can do without the juice. I am a big silva fan but I hope he is telling the truth about getting tested in Japan You are right he is a fighter and not my buddy but I am still a fan and I am not gonna “Fuck Chuck” just yet. I just hope for a good fight.
If wandi wins, throw him to rampage
Am I right?
this for me is still the biggest fight in mma. Both can bang, both r great wrestlers with great takedown defence. Style wise its a cant miss its gonna be a train wreck. The only downside is one of these legends of the sport will lose for the third time. Bring on dec 29th!
BY BYE CHUCKY
[quote comment="191667"]If Chuck loses this one its bye bye, maybe thats a good motivation for him to win! He’s got nothing to lose now for sure, but if he loses, his name will definately fade away as a “has been champion.” [/quote]
Actually I think you just defined “something to lose” rather than ‘nothing to lose’. You said if he loses he will be out of the UFC and he will fade away as a ‘has been chamion’. That sounds like something to lose…
[quote comment="192324"][quote comment="191596"]Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..[/quote]
DAMN!! I like those scenarios![/quote]
The only one that doesn’t make sense to me is the last one, if Chuck loses, he fights Houston. By that time, Houston will be about ready for a #1 contender fight, assuming he defeats Thiago Silva, not a fight against a washed up fighter on a 4 fight losing streak. If he loses to Thiago, then a fight against Chuck would make sense. However, if Houston wins and Liddell loses, the UFC will be calling Tait Fletcher and beg him to step foot back into the octagon, to fight Chuck.
[quote comment="192421"]WHO CARES, THEY BOTH SUCK!!![/quote]
These are the types of comments that Machine was referring to. This person obviously has no idea what they are talking about and has only been watching MMA for no more than 5 months. Otherwise, he would know that neither of these fighters suck. On a losing streak, yes, but suck, no.
I cant wait for this fight im going to Vegas for this fight card and it was up and down with rumors of the fight one day I would be exited and the next sad, so im glad its official and ill be cheering for my boy Chuck, knock him out cold also Matt Hughes, damn I cant wait shit like 65 more days
I’m not gonna believe this fight is going down until it actually happens lol.
[quote comment="191524"]What’s this fight even mean anymore? It’s kind of pointless. If Wandy wins he’ll just be in a long list of people that have beat Chuck Liddell and if chuck wins it sure does say a lot about Wandy and will add to the stigma that PRIDE fighters either have come to UFC out of shape or they just aren’t as good (’page and silva as the exception rather than the rule). I’d rather see Wandy fight a top contender like Houston or Rashad. (I didn’t include Jardine bc he already proved himself on Liddell or Griffin bc he already proved himself against Shogun).[/quote]
Oh come on, people have been wanting to see this fight for years, regardless of whether or not it has any title implications, it’ll be great just because these guys can’t stand each other. If Wanderlei gets the win that would make him the 4th fighter to beat Chuck, how does that in any way constitute a long list of people? Everyone is really quick to write off Chuck after a couple of bad showings, but I’ll at least wait and see how he does against an opponent that he should be really fired up to fight.
I said it before…”Must win for Chuck.”, however, not career ending for either.
Where did the notion come from that just because you lose a couple or three in a row (especially when challenging or defending the belt)that it is time to retire?
There is only 1 champ and just because everyone knows you can’t beat him, you should retire? Chuck Liddell and Rich Franklin should retire then? Babalu should have retired after 62? Tito after 66? The Chicago Cubs after…1908?
Neither of these guys is ready for retirement.
whoever lands first, plain and simple.
all of the sudden chuck is a washed up one dimensional fighter? i could name 20 guys who could challenge for titles who have very lopsided skill sets. look at tito he held the belt and couldn’t strike his way out of a baseball game. i can’t say much for randy’s striking up until recently. there are alot of guys who aren’t “well rounded” who have and will have the title. chuck did what all belt holders should do, he fought all comers, and fought the best around at the time. what more do you expect from the guy?? he tried to avenge every loss he has ever had. he didn’t duck anyone…ever.
…i can’t wait until chucky knocks wand’s head off, then the excuse will be that wand was juiced in pride.
THE ICEMAN COMETH
[quote comment="191596"]Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..[/quote]
Very good match-ups.
[quote comment="192949"][quote comment="191596"]Wandy wins = fight with Rampage
Wandy losses = fight with Tito
Liddell wins = fight with forrest
Liddell losses = fight with Houston
Matt, you had me until the whole tito vs Liddell idea…..[/quote]
Very good match-ups.[/quote]
lidell wins =vs. brock lesnar
lidell loses=vs. Duke the Dumpster droese
wandy wins= Forrest Griffin
wandy loses= ricky”the dragon” steamboat
Chuck’s been rusty against strikers as of late. We’ll see how he does. Both fighters have shown they are prone to KTFO’s.
I’m looking for big things from Wandy after his last title fight against Hendo where he looked very sluggish (I believe he had the flu).
Chuck is the more accurate puncher but he may fold if Wanderlei just goes buck wild on him. He doesn’t have the same confidence about him after he got handled by Quinton.
damn job is keeping me from posting.
i really dont care who wins, im just excited to see the fight. and i for one, dont think that a third loss to either fighter spells retirement. both these guys have fought the best of the best.
chuck does need to open up his mma game no matter what if he wants to keep fighting and win. randy proved that the only way to fight when you older is to fight smart and have a deep mma game for every scenario.
Can’t wait to see these two bangin’. Done.
This just is not that exciting..Liddel’s last 2 opponents showed how to pick apart Chucks Game. This would have been nice last year..
[quote comment="192126"]comon chuck!!! u win this and you get a title shot!!! Beat Rampage and then retire!!![/quote]
yeah Beat Rampage… Since Chuck did so well the first two times against Rampage
Liddell i hope will return to his best to defeat Silva, then rematch and beat jardine before title shot agaist Rampage!! hate all you chuck doubters, rot!!!!!!! Return of the ICE AGE Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!Lets see it chuck!!!!!!!!!
Chuck Liddell Is One Of The Best 205 Fighters Right Now , He Is Just Having A Bump In His Road To Victory, We Will See The Old Chuck Vs Wandy….Go Chuck Go!!!!!