UFC Heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia

“Cheick Kongo, who defeated Mirko CroCop in September, is most likely next [for Tim Sylvia], though the possibility of a bout with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira also exists.”

– Kevin Iole at Yahoo!Sports.com backpedals on a report prior to UFC 77 that the winner of the bout between Tim Sylvia and Brandon Vera would face Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for the vacant heavyweight title sometime in early 2008. “The Maine-iac” earned a unanimous decision win over “The Truth” this past weekend at the U.S. Bank Arena in Cincinnati, Ohio.

October 22nd, 2007    

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Comment by Machine
2007-10-22 10:39:07

This doesnt surprise me at all.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-10-22 10:40:25

Tim Syliva vs Kongo

Big Nog gets the winner for the vacant title shot.

Vera vs Gonzaga ..can be in the mix too.

 
Comment by PhilQNY
2007-10-22 10:41:04

Gonzaga vs Brock Lesnar ???

 
Comment by Michaelthebox
2007-10-22 10:42:34

Can anybody read this as anything other than a way to put as many opponents as possible between Sylvia and the title?

I think Sylvia would beat Nog much the same way he beat Vera, so I’m not at all surprised Dana wants to prevent that from happening.

 
Comment by Mahde
2007-10-22 10:47:37

I am not so sure that Sylvia would beat Nog. Nog has excellent boxing skills and is clearly the best BJJ guy in the division. The only two people who can beat Nog are Fedor and Couture. Being as niether one of them fights in the UFC, I dont see anyone dashing Nog’s title hopes.

 
Comment by Stunnalator
2007-10-22 10:55:29

I say Gonzaga or Vera vs. Big Nog and Sylvia vs. Kongo. Winner of those fight eachother for the title. Understandably if it becomes Vera vs. Tim again it could be a boring ass fight but If it was true that Vera did break his hand in the first round then it could be a completely different second match up. Vera was landing some nice shots and seemed to turn the heat up in the 2nd round but you could definately tell something was wrong because that was not the Vera ive seen in the past. He also may come up with a new gameplan to defeat Sylvias bullshit holding the entire time. Either way I would love to see the Matchup of Vera or Gonzaga face Big Nog.

 
Comment by Reldeed
2007-10-22 10:55:37

What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?

 
Comment by MJC_123
2007-10-22 11:03:29

Who cares they are all boring fighters…Even big Nog has lost it.

 
Comment by ViolentMike
2007-10-22 11:12:53

This is just plain ridiculous. What does Dana think is going to happen, someone is just going to come in and KO everyone in the division in the first round, and that a 1st round KO is the only way that you can earn yourself a title shot? That’s just BS. How long does he want to wait before crowing a new HW champ? They should get that belt around someone’s waist asap. SYlvia vs Big Nog is just fine with me, especially after seeing what the Truth is made of. So if its not Timmy vs Nog for the belt, what will it be Kongo vs Nog for the belt? Both of them have done way less in the UFC than Timmy. The only thing that I can think of is that he is planning on having Brock Lesnar fight for the belt. If thats the case, Dana officially lost his mind and needs to get out of here. Speaking of Brock, I wonder if Eddie Sanchez was contacted yet for his next fight in the octagon?

 
Comment by bryant
2007-10-22 11:13:46

i bet if vera won he would have got the title shot, they changed cause sylvia is a boring fighter and no one wants a boring match they should just have kongo vs big nog for the title belt

 
Comment by EdenMachine
2007-10-22 11:16:44

obviously Dana wants Tim to beat Kongo to win the title so there can be a Syvia vs Big Nog title fight instead of a Big nog vs Kongo title fight. It’s just easier to market.

 
Comment by matt
2007-10-22 11:28:05

Vera vs cro cop! would be a amazing striking contest. noo one likes sylvia because he is soooo boring him fighting a big exiting fighter like kongo mightwork though…

 
Comment by Midion
2007-10-22 11:32:44

Sylvia was working much more than Vera, he could have done more in the clinch but he was still pressing the action. Big Nog looks slow as hell and I dont think he stands a chance against either Congo or Sylvia unless he can get it to the ground. Gonzanga is definatley in the mix and a fight against Vera would be awesome. But I am sure Vera will get ANOTHER fish to please his nuthugger fan base, perhaps a blind guy.

 
Comment by bostonmmajunkie
2007-10-22 11:33:54

Vera was the one who wanted to clinch because he broke his hand.

I thought it was weird for Tim to call out Cheick Kongo after the fight.

I still think that Gonzaga and Big Nog are the best HWs right now.

 
Comment by GriffinFan05
2007-10-22 11:34:38

[quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]
I like the idea of Sylvia fighting Kongo and Nog fighting someone and the winners fight for the belt. I don’t see why or how Big Nog gets a title fight after his lack luster performance against the Crazy Horse. Nog should fight a contender (I don’t consider Herring a contender because I barely put him in top 20) and if he wins that then he fights for the belt. Does anyone else agree with me?

 
Comment by delldog
2007-10-22 11:35:06

Why is Nog getting a free pass to the belt? Nog should fight GG, Gonzaga, AA, or Lesnar (lol) first.

 
Comment by GriffinFan05
2007-10-22 11:38:09

[quote comment=”188647″]Who cares they are all boring fighters…Even big Nog has lost it.[/quote]
The whole heavy weight division is boring, especially with Randy gone and Cro Cop sucking. I cant wait to see BROCK LESNAR, THE NEXT BIG THING in the UFC!!!!

 
Comment by spidersilva
2007-10-22 11:51:47

You guys are forgeting that it was Big Tim that was set on calling out Kongo after the fight.

 
Comment by Big_B
2007-10-22 11:52:55

Arlovski won’t fight again without a new contract. He won’t get anywhere near a title shot til that’s resolved.

 
Comment by RearNakedSlam
2007-10-22 11:53:08

I have a feeling that Kongo is going to decapitate Sylvia with a series of punches.

Kongos striking is on a whole other level than Sylvia. I don’t see Sylvia trying to take him down either. Kongo is everything that Sylvia used to be and more. No being tentative and waiting for a decision with Kongo.

Time to step your game up Tim, or you’re going to sleep.

 
Comment by Yoububg
2007-10-22 12:04:48

Sylvia would not destroy Big Nog. It would be a hell of a fight that would probably go to the judges if it stayed standing. If it goes to the ground, it’s likely Big Nog will submit Sylvia just like Arlovski did. Is it just me or does anybody else want to see Arlovski back in the mix?

 
Comment by Yoububg
2007-10-22 12:06:30

Kongo on the other hand might rock Sylvia.

 
Comment by XXXFactor
2007-10-22 12:13:48

[quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

That’s exactly what should happen…there’s no way Nog should be getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.

Nog
Sylvia
Arlovski
Gonzaga
Kongo
Cro Cop
Vera
Monson
Sanchez
Where’s Jake O’Brian???

 
Comment by Machine
2007-10-22 12:17:54

[quote comment=”188716″]I have a feeling that Kongo is going to decapitate Sylvia with a series of punches.

Kongos striking is on a whole other level than Sylvia. I don’t see Sylvia trying to take him down either. Kongo is everything that Sylvia used to be and more. No being tentative and waiting for a decision with Kongo.

Time to step your game up Tim, or you’re going to sleep.[/quote]

I definately agree. Since Kongo’s UFC debut his striking has been on display & I said from day 1 that it’s strong enough to one day put him in contender status. The glaringly obvious problem with Kongo is that his Rolling is absolutely trash. Now, with that being said his skills have increased drastically since his loss to Carmello but on a scale of 1-10, he’s only increased to maybe a 4 in grappling. That’s just enough to keep himself out of trouble with the Silvia’s, AA’s & CC’s but he’ll be outmatched with the Nog’s & GG’s of the division.

If I were Kongo’s trainer, I’d have him focus heavily on Wrestling & BJJ Defense.

 
Comment by wolfslair
2007-10-22 12:18:36

arlovski needs to get in the title picture quickly as if sylvia gets the belt back hes not getting a shot anytime soon

im suprised dana didnt make sylvia vera for the title it deserved to be a 5 round fight

its quite strange at the moment as all the divisions are in a bit of a mess and dont really have #1 contenders who jump out at you

they really need to start thinking it out better

having chuck face jardine was a bad idea

dana slated pride for allowing wanderlai to face henderson
this is possibly worse as it rejeopardised the fight even tho ufc had both of them under contract

its such a shame randy retired

randy vs nog now for the title would of made sense
then kongo vs sylvia for #1 contender

dont know where vera and arlovski can go
possibly LHW

 
Comment by TRAF
2007-10-22 12:21:46

What about the pitbull vs. brock lesnar ???

 
Comment by Pat
2007-10-22 12:26:56

[quote comment=”188677″]Vera vs cro cop! would be a amazing striking contest. noo one likes sylvia because he is soooo boring him fighting a big exiting fighter like kongo mightwork though…[/quote]

I agree. Loser gets abolished from the HW division! For CC, that means retirement, for Vera a move to LHW. After the loss, Vera needs two wins against top 5 heavies before he gets a title shot IMO. And this is coming from a Vera fan.

 
Comment by kitsunex
2007-10-22 12:36:20

when was the last time we saw an exciting Silvia fight?

 
Comment by c-war
2007-10-22 12:39:01

So why do we have to wait so long for Nog & winner of Sylvia/Kongo for a title bout? Cant we just put Arlovski vs Nogeira? This is ridiculous they cut Arlovski out of the UFC. Now that there is an opening at the top of the heavyweights his name still isnt brought up at all. UFC needs some better management. They got the marketing bit down quite alright, but everything else is a little off if you ask me in every aspect.

 
Comment by Fidel Cashflow
2007-10-22 12:39:28

Of course dana wants to put more fights between sylvia and the title. Sylvia isn’t marketable. Despite the fact he has 16 or so (T)KO’s to his name, his last four fights have been decisions. Arlovski 3 (boring), Monson (boring), Couture (thank god), and now Vera (again, boring except the few times he threw his hands).

 
Comment by c-war
2007-10-22 12:41:49

[quote comment=”188759″]arlovski needs to get in the title picture quickly as if sylvia gets the belt back hes not getting a shot anytime soon

im suprised dana didnt make sylvia vera for the title it deserved to be a 5 round fight

its quite strange at the moment as all the divisions are in a bit of a mess and dont really have #1 contenders who jump out at you

they really need to start thinking it out better

having chuck face jardine was a bad idea

dana slated pride for allowing wanderlai to face henderson
this is possibly worse as it rejeopardised the fight even tho ufc had both of them under contract

its such a shame randy retired

randy vs nog now for the title would of made sense
then kongo vs sylvia for #1 contender

dont know where vera and arlovski can go
possibly LHW[/quote]

lol I probably should have read your post before I posted, because I agree with you 100 percent Wolfslair. UFC just seems a little off when it comes to putting fights together in an orderly manner with the right two people. Im anti-Joe Silva as long as he has match making job. How the hell do you get a job like that anyways besides the obvious ass sucking?

 
Comment by mayberry
2007-10-22 13:00:52

[quote comment=”188779″]when was the last time we saw an exciting Silvia fight?[/quote]

when Mir broke his arm - LOL

what I dont understand is:
so AA gets the shit end of the stick for beating Werdum because he did not finish and it was “boring”

but Big Nog almost gets destroyed by HH in the first (who he was 2-0 against), gets a shot at the title for doing the same thing.

I have an idea:
“lets dig up Shamrock and have him fight Tito for the 10th time and then give Tito a shot at LHW belt”.

 
Comment by matt
2007-10-22 13:14:56

i think it would make more sense to have kongo fight nogureia with the winner of that fight moving on to fight tim for the belt. because in my opinion nogueira didnt prove ready to challenge for a title in his only fight in the ufc.

 
Comment by hector
2007-10-22 13:23:17

[quote comment=”188617″]Gonzaga vs Brock Lesnar ???[/quote]
as much as i dont like gonzaga i dont really think he is a contender I would love to see him beat the living shit out of Lesnar, all those WWE fans are crazy when they keep saying that he will be dominant and blah,blah. but oh well Brock and all his fans will learn the hard way everybody also says that in a few years he can become a force well then hell have him train for a few more years before he starts calling out a “filet mignon” instead of “cans of tomatoes” LOL

 
Comment by FFL
2007-10-22 13:25:09

M-1 Announces their CEO and news in regards to Fedor _ props MMA Weekly

In a press release on Monday, it was announced that the newly formed Sibling Sports, LLC is the company behind M-1 Global, LLC, a new mixed martial arts company believed to be the new home of highly sought after free agent Fedor Emelianenko.

It was also revealed that Monte Cox, a longtime veteran of the mixed martial arts industry, was named President and CEO of M-1 Global.

Though not stated in the release, it is commonly believed that M-1 Global will, at a press conference on Monday, be announced as the organization that has signed Emelianenko, currently ranked as the No. 1 heavyweight fighter in the world by MMAWeekly.com.

“We are excited to announce the formation of Sibling Sports, LLC and our new mixed martial arts organization M-1 Global,” said Mitchell Maxwell, President and CEO of Sibling Holdings. “Mixed martial arts is the fastest growing sport in America. It is the boxing of the 21st century.

“We have pulled together a world-class group of people to lead our new organization. Our new management team has extensive mixed martial arts experience in Europe, Russia, Asia and the U.S.,” he continued.

“We are pleased to announce Monte Cox as our CEO. Monte has been recognized as one of the most influential persons in mixed martial arts in the world today. He is generally considered one of the world’s most successful fight managers, having produced a record seven world champions in the Ultimate Fighting Championship and built an impressive team of nearly 60 world-class competitors.”

“It’s exciting,” Cox told MMAWeekly.com. “I’ve accomplished almost everything a person can accomplish in MMA. I’ve managed world champions. I’ve take guys from the beginning of their careers and seen them grow, helping them along. I’ve run smaller shows. The one thing I haven’t done is I’ve never worked for a big show.

“All of us in MMA sit back and criticize and talk about how if it was us, we’d do it different. Well, now I have that opportunity.”

“I have been involved in mixed martial arts for almost 13 years. While I have been offered many other positions over the years, this is the first one that I have accepted,” said Cox. “I am elated to have the opportunity to work with Mitchell Maxwell and the great team of managers he has been able to assemble. We look forward to continuing to move mixed martial arts into the mainstream, not only here in the U.S., but worldwide.

“We have developed an alliance with M-1 Mix Fight and we are honored to be working with Vadim Finkelchtein, Apy Echteld, and Joost Raimond. They have many years of experience managing fighters and staging events in Europe, Russia, and Asia. Rounding out our new management team are Bob Clark, currently serving as President of Sibling Theatricals, and Brian Patton, a CPA, and business manager for MMA legend Matt Hughes

 
Comment by Michaelthebox
2007-10-22 13:32:34

[quote comment=”188816″]what I dont understand is:
so AA gets the shit end of the stick for beating Werdum because he did not finish and it was “boring”

but Big Nog almost gets destroyed by HH in the first (who he was 2-0 against), gets a shot at the title for doing the same thing.[/quote]

Well, AA never looked particularly good against Werdum.

Meanwhile, as much shit as Nog gets for that fight against Herring, that was basically two minutes of Nog ducking into a kick and recovering, and 13 minutes of Nog kicking Herring’s ass.

As for Lesnar, no chance he gets a fight against a guy as good as Gonzaga. I’m thinking they put Lesnar against Wellisch or McCully. Gonzaga’s next fight will be Arlovski, Werdum, or Mir.

 
Comment by kitsunex
2007-10-22 13:42:30

[quote comment=”188845″][quote comment=”188617″]Gonzaga vs Brock Lesnar ???[/quote]
as much as i dont like gonzaga i dont really think he is a contender I would love to see him beat the living shit out of Lesnar, all those WWE fans are crazy when they keep saying that he will be dominant and blah,blah. but oh well Brock and all his fans will learn the hard way everybody also says that in a few years he can become a force well then hell have him train for a few more years before he starts calling out a “filet mignon” instead of “cans of tomatoes” LOL[/quote]

i like how all you WWE anti-fans like to talk down about him and ignore his impressive college wrestling background. or the fact that he walked onto a pro NFL team with no experience. you can choose to ignore the fact that is an impressive athlete if you want. but i’ll continue to laugh at you.

 
Comment by bw
2007-10-22 13:48:45

[quote comment=”188786″]Of course dana wants to put more fights between sylvia and the title. Sylvia isn’t marketable. Despite the fact he has 16 or so (T)KO’s to his name, his last four fights have been decisions. Arlovski 3 (boring), Monson (boring), Couture (thank god), and now Vera (again, boring except the few times he threw his hands).[/quote]
i said it once a long time ago and i’ll say it again, it takes TWO fighters to make a boring fight. sylvia’s fight against randy wasnt boring because randy made it so.

 
Comment by damaja
2007-10-22 13:56:23

If Vera didn’t break his hand he would have won. Tim’s punches weren’t really landing (even though he threw more). Whereas, Vera’s punches where more accurate.

Anyways, I vote for Chiek to whoop Tim’s ass and I can see him beating big Nog.

New Champ: Kongo

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-10-22 14:04:48

kongo and sylvia is going to be a great fight, kongo won’t be intimidated by sylvia’s size, those guys are gonna go at it…either way i think both guys don’t match up well with big nog, big nog will be the next champ…

 
Comment by jesse canadian mma
2007-10-22 14:15:28

I would like to see Brock come in and get dominated I’m not a fan.
if Brock fights anyone(almost anyone) in the ufc I’m going for his opponet.
Some people mainly wrestling fans think he is going to come in and murder the ufc heavyweight division.
I sincerly hope his first fight isn’t for the title for so many reasons.
As far as the vacant title if sylvia wants kongo I’m down with that.
If sylvia fights nog for the title I’m good with that as well
jus get the title around someones waist. A possible 2 vacant titles(light weight) I’m not down with.

 
Comment by 12121212
2007-10-22 14:23:03

These are the top contenders (in no specific order):

Arlovski
Sylvia
Kongo
Minotauro

Here are the guys who are coming off of losses but could challenge the title soon:

Vera (Didn’t look like himself against Sylvia but will probably come back better than ever)
Gonzaga (Was merely a victim of a great gameplan and perfect execution by Couture)
Monson (Was too short to beat Sylvia, but would do well against most other heavyweights)

These are the guys who could move up a weight class and be a force as a heavyweight:

Rampage (Strong enough; Good striker/wrestler)
Forrest (Great cardio/heart; huge for light heavyweight)
Machida (Much more technical than most heavyweights)
Liddell (Still a great fighter despite recent losses)

It is unlikely that any of the LHW’s will be moving up, so the most reasonable setup would probably be this:

Sylvia vs Kongo >
Big Nog vs Arlovski > Winners fight for Title

Vera vs Gonzaga for next #1 contender spot

 
Comment by James S
2007-10-22 14:28:16

I think Dana is hoping and praying that when randy comes back from filming he will be able to talk him into fighting again. That’s the only logical reason to keep the belt on hold so long. He’s expecting Couture to come back as Champion and have no need for a fight for the vacant ttile. Or he just hates Tim sylvia, and doesn’t want him to be champion.

 
Comment by jesse canadian mma
2007-10-22 14:39:45

Not a fan of lesner, not a fan of all the lesner is going to murder the ufc hw division talk(mostly by wrestling fans)ncaa credentials aside not an experianced mma fighter and not a fan of lesner possibly getting a title shot for his fist fight in the ufc.
If lesner fights anyone in the ufc(almost anyone) I’m going for his opponent.
If Sylvia wants Kongo I’m down with that, if it’s for the title I’m also good with that.
If Sylvia fights nog for the title I’m good with that too.
Jus get the title around someones waist I don’t want to see the possibilty of 2 vacant titles(lw)in the ufc.

 
Comment by skatanicus
2007-10-22 14:49:02

Once again people want to say that Kongo deserves a title shot and Nogueira does not. Nogueira actually finished Cro Cop, Kongo did not. All you guys care about is how many fights they have in the UFC. No one should come into the UFC as one of the best fighters in the world and have to work their way up fighting nobodys. I’m surprised you guys weren’t saying Fedor shouldn’t be allowed to fight Randy cause he hadn’t proven himself yet lol. Kongo’s overrated and Sylvia is still underrated, no one gives him due respect. I like AA, and I’d be cool with seeing him fight Nog, but Nogueira is the guy to beat in the HW division right now and he has the strongest claim to a title shot. If I was Tim Sylvia, I would have called out Nogueira, but he called out Kongo instead, maybe he thinks he’ll need another win to gain a title shot and thinks he can beat Kongo.

 
Comment by skatanicus
2007-10-22 14:59:05

As for Brock Lesnar, I hope they give him someone very tough for his first fight. I want to see if he can really make it in MMA, I think he can do well because he is so powerful, but it will be interesting to see how much his lack of experience will hurt him. A lot of people compare the UFC to the WWE, and this isn’t going to help things at all, but I think it’s ironic that everyone doubts Brock Lesnar, when there are guys like Tim Sylvia, who are not these graceful, Bruce Lee type MMA artists that everyone seems to think will demolish Brock, they’re just big dumb guys that use their size to pound people into the ground. That’s what Brock is, that’s what Tim is, even Randy Couture. People were treating Koscheck like he was god before he lost to GSP, talking up his wrestling, and now Brock comes around and wrestling isn’t enough. Shenanigans!

 
Comment by damaja
2007-10-22 15:01:29

[quote comment=”188963″]Once again people want to say that Kongo deserves a title shot and Nogueira does not. Nogueira actually finished Cro Cop, Kongo did not. All you guys care about is how many fights they have in the UFC. No one should come into the UFC as one of the best fighters in the world and have to work their way up fighting nobodys. I’m surprised you guys weren’t saying Fedor shouldn’t be allowed to fight Randy cause he hadn’t proven himself yet lol. Kongo’s overrated and Sylvia is still underrated, no one gives him due respect. I like AA, and I’d be cool with seeing him fight Nog, but Nogueira is the guy to beat in the HW division right now and he has the strongest claim to a title shot. If I was Tim Sylvia, I would have called out Nogueira, but he called out Kongo instead, maybe he thinks he’ll need another win to gain a title shot and thinks he can beat Kongo.[/quote]

And at the same time if you really watched Big Nog vs. Heath you would see that Heath clearly won while Big Nog’s performance was unimpressive. It was almost like Heath let Nog get a win.

 
Comment by Amir
2007-10-22 15:02:23

I think the UFC would do it’s best to prevent a Gonzaga/Nog title fight. Neither of them can speak a word of English and are about as marketable as toe jam, so stop dreaming. These UFC “matchups” are quickly becoming more hype, less fight!!!

 
Comment by DB
2007-10-22 15:21:11

All this talk of the heavyweight division being “stacked” is nonsence. After the departure of Randy Couture the depth of the division went right out the window. There hasn’t been a convincing win by a heavyweight contender. Big Nog was unimpressive vs Herring, Kongo was unimpressive against Cro Cop, and Sylvia was unimpressive vs Vera. On a side note a side note if Vera drops to lightheavyweight look out that division would be even more stacked.

 
Comment by bostonmmajunkie
2007-10-22 15:23:34

Although I dont think Brock will get to fight the top HWs soon, I would love to see him get beat up. I love watching big muscleheads take a beating. Any one of the top HWs would tach Brock a lesson, Tim, GG, AA, CC.

 
Comment by DB
2007-10-22 15:28:47

If they need a main event for UFC 80 it will likely be Big Nog vs Kongo for the title because Sylvia won’t be ready by then.

 
Comment by leroy
2007-10-22 15:43:47

[quote comment=”188745″][quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

That’s exactly what should happen…there’s no way Nog should be getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.

Nog
Sylvia
Arlovski
Gonzaga
Kongo
Cro Cop
Vera
Monson
Sanchez
Where’s Jake O’Brian???[/quote]

The last I heard Jake had some kind of back problems that was career threatening. They should wait as long as possible before crowning a new champ and pray Randy comes back. Every guy on that list is either a boring piece of shit(Kongo & Sylvia), or they can’t beat the boring pieces of shit(Cro Cop & Vera).

 
Comment by Scott
2007-10-22 16:18:11

I know people like to hate on Tim for being “a boring fighter”, but a lot of the hugging from the last fight was initiated by Vera. So much for him being an exciting fighter; I also think the way the matches have been refereed is as much to blame as anything. Just break up the damned hugfests against the cage if nothing is going on. Personally I think Tim is just as deserving of a title shot as Nogueira, maybe even moreso considering Nog’s lackluster showing against Herring. Even though I much prefer the stand up game to the ground work, I can still appreciate Nogueira’s ground fighting abilities. It’s just that I can’t help but wonder how the hell he fell right into title contention with a performance against Herring that was mediocre at best, while the former champion beats the guy that people are all nuthugging over about being a future star and Tim still hasn’t earned another title shot?!?!? I guess the randomness of earning title shots shouldn’t be a big shock considering Serra is just now set for his first defense–against Hughes when it would seem that GSP would be more deserving of that fight. I guess it’s easier to promote a fight between two guys that can’t stand each other than rather than giving the former champs rematches to the guys that took their belts. It just seems like getting a title shot anymore has much less to do with earning it, and a lot more to do with promotional aspects. I think it’s a big crock of shit to be perfectly candid.

 
Comment by Stafo
2007-10-22 16:19:31

[quote comment=”188616″]Tim Syliva vs Kongo

Big Nog gets the winner for the vacant title shot.

Vera vs Gonzaga ..can be in the mix too.[/quote]
Vera/Gonzaga sounds interesting WoW!

Nog should get another fight as well before a title shot. He didn’t exactly run over Herring. I could see Nog fighting Cro Cop. If he wins then should he face winner of Sylvia/Kongo.

 
Comment by damaja
2007-10-22 16:22:18

[quote comment=”189115″]I know people like to hate on Tim for being “a boring fighter”, but a lot of the hugging from the last fight was initiated by Vera. So much for him being an exciting fighter…/quote]

Umm he did that because his hand was broken. Vera should be respected for not saying anything until after the fight. He finished despite his injury and he was more accurate in his striking than Tim was.

 
Comment by Scott
2007-10-22 16:24:33

[quote comment=”189120″][quote comment=”189115″]I know people like to hate on Tim for being “a boring fighter”, but a lot of the hugging from the last fight was initiated by Vera. So much for him being an exciting fighter…/quote]

Umm he did that because his hand was broken. Vera should be respected for not saying anything until after the fight. He finished despite his injury and he was more accurate in his striking than Tim was.[/quote]

Umm he was doing it from the getgo, if he broke his hand early and couldn’t continue they should’ve just stopped it.

 
Comment by pUniSHment
2007-10-22 16:42:29

[quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

I don’t think Arlovski would have a chance against Big Nog. I don’t even think BIG NOG’S last fight at UFC Stacked was impressive. I know that he accomplished a lot at PRIDE, but it seems all the fighters who made the transition from pride to the UFC are struggling except for RAMPAGE.

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-22 16:58:47

[quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]
wow i can see that

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-22 17:05:35

[quote comment=”188745″][quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

That’s exactly what should happen…there’s no way Nog should be getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.

Nog
Sylvia
Arlovski
Gonzaga
Kongo
Cro Cop
Vera
Monson
Sanchez
Where’s Jake O’Brian???[/quote]
i say have a tournament all in 2 or 3 events

 
Comment by jsoph
2007-10-22 17:23:43

[quote comment=”188617″]Gonzaga vs Brock Lesnar ???[/quote]
thats what isay, lets see what kind of chin lesner has, that would be a big test. Sylvia should not get a title shot until he ko’s a good fighter hes not worth a shit

 
Comment by jsoph
2007-10-22 17:25:16

[quote comment=”189148″][quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

I don’t think Arlovski would have a chance against Big Nog. I don’t even think BIG NOG’S last fight at UFC Stacked was impressive. I know that he accomplished a lot at PRIDE, but it seems all the fighters who made the transition from pride to the UFC are struggling except for RAMPAGE.[/quote]

I dont think Arloski fights in the ufc any more, not positive but i think Dana fired him.

 
Comment by Thorazine
2007-10-22 17:29:21

Maybe Big Tim is thinking, screw the belt for now, I want to beat up everybody the fans like. Timmy seems to be excepting the dark horse role as the villian. I notice he’s a lot more comfortable and articulate in his interviews… sure he can’t pronounce “Cheick” correctly, but hey he responded with a funny remark..”I can call him whatever I want”… which drew laughs from the press.

 
Comment by ysa
2007-10-22 17:35:57

Can fans stop booing Tim? I believe this is not fair at the end of day he is a fighter that once everybody wanted to see. I cannot understand why people do this to him. That hurts. After being fighing for 15 minutes again people boo you. I will never do this to a fighter. It is true that sometimes his fights are boring ,but this one wasn’t.These people train so hard for a fight that winning or losing, they still have to get their recognition.Every UFC fighter deserves my respect and that is what I do everytime they fight.They put on a show or at least they try.

 
Comment by mike
2007-10-22 18:51:15

“Arlovski won’t fight again without a new contract. He won’t get anywhere near a title shot til that’s resolved.”

this is true and i wonder if arlovski will leave for M-1 if offered more money? if he fought like he use too he could be a top contender.

 
Comment by matt
2007-10-22 19:04:56

[quote post=”3659″]Can fans stop booing Tim? I believe this is not fair at the end of day he is a fighter that once everybody wanted to see. I cannot understand why people do this to him. That hurts.[/quote]

We boo him because he is the most boring fighter on the face of this planet….enough said!

 
Comment by Jakizzle
2007-10-22 19:37:52

i just want someone to knock tim syvia out….he’s more boring than yushin okami. Thank you randy couture for whopping his ass for 5 rounds but i want sylvia knocked out

 
Comment by da man
2007-10-22 20:02:09

Sylvia sucks! he’s boring as hell and can’t finish fights anymore(since he stopped taking steroids). Couture whooped his big ass becuase he’s twice the fighter Sylvia will ever be, not becuase of an “injury”

 
Comment by da man
2007-10-22 20:03:06

[quote comment=”189435″]i just want someone to knock tim syvia out….he’s more boring than yushin okami. Thank you randy couture for whopping his ass for 5 rounds but i want sylvia knocked out[/quote]

I bet Cro Cop would drop him on his ass

 
Comment by DB
2007-10-22 21:25:24

winner of Big Nog vs Gonzaga vs winner of Sylvia vs Kongo for the title is my ideal situation. Also a fight between Cro Cop and Vera, if he doesn’t decide to go to lightheavyweight, to determine the next title shot.

 
Comment by bryant
2007-10-22 22:45:47

well if they wanted big nog vs tim they could have the fight superbowl weekend, i think they didn’t want tim to win, he is boring i hope kongo beats his ass, but still tim fights kongo, fights vera then fights for the belt, but big bog doesn’t have to fight till when late next year. kongo fight wouldn’t happen till say feb then title match say 4 to 5 months later that is like july time,

 
Comment by jjdnb
2007-10-22 23:26:08

Sylvia calling out Kongo is just an attempt not to fight Nog right away cuz he knows he’ll have a hard time with Nog.
He even said he has a hard time with the smaller HW’s.

I hate Tim Sylvia. I lost $100. I’m gonna punch Vera in the face when i see him…well maybe not

 
Comment by Robbie
2007-10-22 23:45:17

[quote comment=”189190″][quote comment=”188745″][quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

That’s exactly what should happen…there’s no way Nog should be getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.

Nog
Sylvia
Arlovski
Gonzaga
Kongo
Cro Cop
Vera
Monson
Sanchez
Where’s Jake O’Brian???[/quote]
i say have a tournament all in 2 or 3 events[/quote]

Yes that would be great if they can have a tournament.

 
Comment by Spider Style
2007-10-23 00:06:55

Something that gets lost in this whole thing is that Sylvia was the champ. I can’t stand to watch him fight. He doesn’t draw fans, hell i don’t think that he even has any fans, he is totally unmarketable and really doesn’t have that good of skills. He should be a beast at his size. He throws the most awkward punches i’ve ever seen. throws them from his chest. could you imagine if he had a decent boxing stance and threw those shots from his head with a nice snap to them??? I am not a WWE fan but i really think that Lesnar could take Sylvia. He is the most accomplished wrestler in the UFC now that he has joined. More accomplished than Randy, Koscheck, Lindland etc. If those guys could make the transition to MMA why is everyone doubting that he can?? Because he was a WWE wrestler? That doesn’t cheapen anything in my opinion. His wrestling skills are far more superior than anyone and let’s face the facts here. If you are an NCAA wrestler and school is done, what are your options as far as a career go?? He needed to make $$$ so why not take a big payday with Vince McMahon? I’m sure he needs to hone his skills a little more but at the same time if Eddie Sanchez, Elvis Sinosic and Jorge Gurgel are in the UFC… He has a hell of a lot more skill than them, and would draw a far bigger crowd. Could you imagine his GNP!!! anyway i know a lot of people will disagree but this is just my opinion.

And one last thing. If Tim Sylvia wants to get back up from a takedown, instead of looking at the referee and complaining maybe he should try to get out of it and fight his way back to his feet. This was his 2nd fight in a row that i saw this. He did it in the Couture fight as well. He is the only fighter i have ever seen do this. What a loser. I hope Kongo knocks his head off and i never have to watch another boring fight with him again. He keeps calling out fighters after his decision wins and saying that he is gonna knock them out. You might wanna throw some punches than Tim.

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-23 00:55:51

[quote comment=”189560″]winner of Big Nog vs Gonzaga vs winner of Sylvia vs Kongo for the title is my ideal situation. Also a fight between Cro Cop and Vera, if he doesn’t decide to go to lightheavyweight, to determine the next title shot.[/quote]
Cro Cop doesnt deserve a number 1 contenders match he lost 2 fights in a row the 1st in a #1 contender match against an opponent that beat him at his own game, WITH A KICK. he has to prove himself again i see Cro Cop at the bottom of the list

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-23 00:57:27

[quote comment=”189775″][quote comment=”189190″][quote comment=”188745″][quote comment=”188641″]What about

Silvia vs. Kongo

Nog vs. Arlovski

Winners fight for title?[/quote]

That’s exactly what should happen…there’s no way Nog should be getting a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC.

Nog
Sylvia
Arlovski
Gonzaga
Kongo
Cro Cop
Vera
Monson
Sanchez
Where’s Jake O’Brian???[/quote]
i say have a tournament all in 2 or 3 events[/quote]

Yes that would be great if they can have a tournament.[/quote]
make i