UFC 78 michael bisping vs rashad evans

“Dana White, the UFC President, says that the winner [of the fight between Michael Bisping and Rashad Evans] will gain an automatic world light-heavweight title shot.”

Telegraph — the “number one quality newspaper Web site” in Britain — reports that the winner of the UFC 78: “Validation” main event between Michael Bisping and Rashad Evans on November 17 will next challenge UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Rampage Jackson for his 205-pound title. UFC 78 will take place at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. For the most recent fight card click here.

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Comment by Cesceo
2007-10-20 07:56:18

I refuse to believe that to be the case, surely there’s guys out there who warrant a title shot more than these two

 
Comment by TITOORTIZFAN
2007-10-20 08:06:30

this is bullshit. these 2 crackheads dont even belong to the top 10 of the LHW

 
Comment by No1Dad
2007-10-20 08:07:12

I agree, Cesceo. An easy win for Rampage. Neither of these guys could manage a win in their last fights. Not technically, anyway.

 
Comment by Ro-J
2007-10-20 08:08:09

What? These guys have done nothing to get a title shot. Dana has fell of his rocker, this is messed up.

Maybee Dana is trying to keep new champs around to replace Lidell and Couture.

 
Comment by reagan
2007-10-20 08:10:33

no way in hell either one of these guys rate a shot……

 
Comment by Ro-J
2007-10-20 08:13:27

Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight

 
Comment by ENIGMA
2007-10-20 08:24:56

No fucking way these either one of these guys deserve a title shot

 
Comment by Muscle Dolphin
2007-10-20 08:26:28

I’ll believe this when actually confirmed by the UFC. Dana might of said that the winner would be “in line” for a title shot, as opposed to giving the winner an immediate title shot. Since there are no direct quotes from Dana, it could be all in the semantics. If this turns out to be true, Tito would not be a happy camper. Griffin (or Jardine) deserves the title shot.

 
Comment by "Mr. NC-17"
2007-10-20 08:26:42

This is incredible news!

Knowing that you dont have to fight any big name fighters (except Rashad but he should of lost to Tito) and get a title shot, while Forrest defeated the best 205 pounder in all of the land, Jardine defeated Liddell, Houston defeated Jardine.

This would be awful.

 
Comment by Yoububg
2007-10-20 08:28:10

Rampage would put a royal beat down on both of these kids. Not to mention that there not even close to being top ten in there division. Bisping has a great record but look at who he has fought. Put Houston, Forrest, Jardine, or Wanderlei in there with him, that will be a fight worth watching. Side note: I wonder what the future will bring for the Iceman? I honestly don’t see him standing a big chance with all of the new talent in the lhw division. Well rounded , not really over hand right and an occasional kick. Sounds like a case of the Crocops.

 
Comment by Pat
2007-10-20 08:33:04

This is terrible. I say the other LHW contenders rush the Octagon and beat up in these two.

 
Comment by DB
2007-10-20 08:35:37

Your telling me that if Wanderlei Silva knocks out Chuck in devistating fashion or Keith Jardine gets another win over a big name your going to give the title shot to a guy who’s biggest win is a contrivercial split-decision over Matt Hammil or a guy who boasts knock-outs over Sean Salmon and Jason Lambert. Rashad’s last fight was a draw with worn out, still injured, rusty as hell Tito Ortiz. A draw that Tito gave him by grabbing the fence. I don’t understand how you can warrent a title shot for either of these men. The only reason either of these guys are getting a #1 contender shot is that they are big names, as a result of the reality show, and the UFC needs to generate some spice for a lack luster fight card.

 
Comment by Da Spider
2007-10-20 08:46:54

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]

I agree, I hate both of these guys and they don’t deserve a title shot. Rampage is going to pick the apart in the first round.

 
Comment by Mark
2007-10-20 08:52:35

The reality is both of these guys should move down to middleweight to beef up that division. Rampage is so much bigger than both that a fight with either Bisping or Evans would be an absolute joke.

 
Comment by EdenMachine
2007-10-20 09:00:58

Well, I certainly wouldn’t take some stupid UK paper as “fact” so I’d reserve all the comments until a credible source states it as so. But look at the bright side. If it’s true, one of these guys will get KTFO and we’ll never see or hear from them again bc they’ll be on undercards for the rest of their careers.

 
Comment by RobH86
2007-10-20 09:14:10

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]

Yeah all these guys are ahead of the two TUFers. I’d even say Shogun despite his lack lustre performance against Griffin.

Maybe this is the easy defense Rampage wants next. Didn’t he say something like that. Nearly all champs get one or two easy ones just to keep things ticking over while a messed up division sorts itself out. Hell I know MW is shallow but Franklin got Nate Quarry so it could actually happen.

It would be a joke. Then again Jardine just beat Liddell so who knows?

 
Comment by Pissed off Brit
2007-10-20 09:15:23

Can you imagine the beating Forrest would give to Bisping? That would be a sight to behold.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-10-20 09:19:10

If this is the case and it is true then at least after when of these guys gets absolutely mauled by Rampage, we will not have to see the likes of either of them for a while. I personaly have more respect for Rashad then Bisping. Rashad has a better talent pool of fights under his belt. I personaly have an extreme dislike for Bisping and would like to see him win so he can get absolutely destroyed by Rampage…

 
Comment by cmac
2007-10-20 09:24:24

If this is true. Just a good way for our boy Dana to market a event In the UK again if Bisbing wins. i use to like Dana but I am smelling, Dana ” Don King ” White. Let the best fight. Not some chumps.

 
Comment by Jimmy G
2007-10-20 09:37:41

Its definately a ‘commercial’ match-up, and I agree, totally undeserved. Its an ‘Ultimate Fighter’ thing, without question, but hopefully NOT a sign of whats to come. I’m a huge boxing fan, but one of the attraction’s of the UFC was always that they pit the best with the best, no politics ala boxing, this matchup though is definately to the contrary :0(

 
Comment by Jakizzle
2007-10-20 09:42:09

Don’t worry guys Dana is just trying to hype this “main event”. In truth as a main event Evans vs Bisping is weak and only suitable for an Ultimate Fight Night. Also at this present time should Bisping win this fight he couldn’t fight Rampage because they’ve trained together for the past year up in Big Bear. UFC 78 needs Chuck vs Wandy because right now it sucks

 
Comment by Matthew Watt
2007-10-20 09:50:45

This makes sense for zero reasons. If the UFC does do this, I do not know what I will do. Probably not think of the UFC as a legitimate sport that is for sure.

 
Comment by Insain
2007-10-20 10:03:46

you guys are all haters – i say if these 2 think they are ready then give them a shot. Bisping is undefeated, and Rashad is a threat to any fighter at 205.

 
Comment by Mattski
2007-10-20 10:08:57

So, everybody here believes the trash printed in a British tabloid? Give me a break.

Neither of these two guys will withstand Rampages onslaught for more than a round. Wishful thinking by the Brits – Bisping would be broken in two…

 
Comment by dsi_chameleon
2007-10-20 10:10:59

[quote post="3646"]you guys are all haters – i say if these 2 think they are ready then give them a shot. Bisping is undefeated, and Rashad is a threat to any fighter at 205. [/quote]

your username says it all, insain

 
Comment by Jo
2007-10-20 10:12:33

WOW THAT IS BS

 
Comment by ABM!2!
2007-10-20 10:17:05

Dana White wouldn’t do this. He’s too smart to do something like this. Bisping can’t even hang with the likes of Bonnar and Lambert so this is more like a Rashad doesn’t deserve a title shot issue because he’ll destroy Bisping.

 
Comment by jimmy
2007-10-20 10:17:26

[quote comment="185332"]WOW THAT IS BS[/quote]
i was think the same exact thing

 
Comment by dandeman
2007-10-20 10:24:01

Looks like this is a bone that Dana White is throwing at Rampage. He’ll bonerush these two mofos in the first round.

 
Comment by Steve
2007-10-20 10:32:21

IS it April 1st or something? I know this can’t be true.

 
Comment by Frizz
2007-10-20 10:33:05

This is not a direct qoute from Dana White. I have not seen this on any other website. I wish “Mania” would wait for the news to be fact before he posts this shit.

Dana probably said the winner of this fight would be in line for a title shot.

Probably against Machida or Forrest. With the winner of that fight getting a title shot

If Silva Beats Chuck in December, look for Wandy and Rampage next year.

 
Comment by john
2007-10-20 10:38:26

[quote comment="185225"]Your telling me that if Wanderlei Silva knocks out Chuck in devistating fashion or Keith Jardine gets another win over a big name your going to give the title shot to a guy who’s biggest win is a contrivercial split-decision over Matt Hammil or a guy who boasts knock-outs over Sean Salmon and Jason Lambert. Rashad’s last fight was a draw with worn out, still injured, rusty as hell Tito Ortiz. A draw that Tito gave him by grabbing the fence. I don’t understand how you can warrent a title shot for either of these men. The only reason either of these guys are getting a #1 contender shot is that they are big names, as a result of the reality show, and the UFC needs to generate some spice for a lack luster fight card.[/quote]

DB…… U r absolutly correct. This is bullshit and I aint buying it. Its a silly rumor probably started in England. This cant be true… Dana has been a fool lately but he isn’t that dumb that he will try to sell us next months bullshit main event by trying to spice it up and make it a #1 contender match. I aint buying it and if its true, Dana is turning into Vince McMahaon just putting together whatever match he seems fit… This is crazy and I dont believe that Dana would stoop so low to try and push next months pay per view by making those 2 undeserving chu8mps Rashad andf Bisping fight for a #1 contender match!!!!!1

This better be a rumor!!!!!

 
Comment by yoda
2007-10-20 10:42:10

This is a freaking joke!! How can you give one of these fighters a shot before Forrest? Forrest will beat either on of these fighters.

 
Comment by jesse canadian mma
2007-10-20 10:55:24

Well looking at the bright side of things this fight and the title fight after it will get both out of the way
and give jackson a fight and more importantly a title defense
and thirdly give griffin/shogun time to heal
alexander to get another win
liddell and wandy will take place
and henderson to get a big win maybe over jardine?

 
Comment by nathan
2007-10-20 10:55:45

Oh my god this is an obvious joke, both these guys are shit, and if they are really the top contenders, the division is in real trouble.

 
Comment by Scott
2007-10-20 11:01:29

Sh*t Rampage would smoke this guys one after another in the same night imo. Im sure this wont happen but if for some crazy reason it does I want Rashad to fight him.

 
Comment by adam
2007-10-20 11:08:54

EVANS VS PAGE is a pretty cool fight that id pay money to see

 
Comment by bryant
2007-10-20 11:10:05

no way how can they say jardine and forrest are out
i hope rashad wins now for sure and if bisping wins when the hell is the hamill rematch

 
Comment by halextito
2007-10-20 11:16:21

dana ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?

 
Comment by jsoph
2007-10-20 11:21:47

Evans is way more deserving

 
Comment by ufc69inTX
2007-10-20 11:58:54

WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON

 
Comment by Noel
2007-10-20 12:09:27

Oh hell to the naw. There’s no way this could be accurate. I’m a big Rashad Evans fan, and even I know that he’s not ready. His biggest win was over Jason Lambert.

 
Comment by Hael
2007-10-20 12:15:07

thats some funny shit…

 
Comment by Donohue
2007-10-20 12:20:10

I totally agree that these guys need to do more to get a title shot, and if bisping gets one im going to throw up. But you have to look at the fact that the rest of the guys are either injured, coming off losses or they have wierd circumstances around them. Forrest is hurt and got beat by jardine, jardine beat chuck but got beat by alexander, shogun lost and had knee surgery, wanderlei needs to fight chuck or anyone first, machida has been boring and needs another top quality win, henderson just lost to quinton, and david heath? gimme a break. Don’t even make me explain why tito doesn’t deserve a shot. So the only guy i see that doesn’t have anything holding him back right now would be alexander. And when you really think about it bisping and rashad are undefeated in the ufc, and would be THE EASIEST WAY OUT. UFC 76 FUCKED UP EVERYTHING.

 
Comment by AZCombat
2007-10-20 12:24:35

that would be a joke, both of these guys are coming off fights where they should have lost they just don’t deserve it. i know it’s really soon but i would really like to see a jardine vs alexander rematch winner of that is for sure deserving a title shot imo.

 
Comment by wolfslair
2007-10-20 12:25:45

jardine deserves a title shot atm

i would say forrest but hes injured

if this rumour is true then im praying bisping wins against rashad so that rampage can knock him senseless

neither of these guys should even be close to a title shot… i guess both are unbeaten but neither has faced any top 10 fighter… possibly not even top 20

neither would provide a marketable opponent

if wanderlai beats chuck it must throw him right in the title picture

 
Comment by tha spida
2007-10-20 12:36:46

i think he’s just trying to put some more hype behind a sub par main event, i don’t think either one of those guys deserves a title shot and i know neither one of those guys would beat rampage…

 
Comment by jess
2007-10-20 13:03:25

no way this is true. neither are contenders

 
Comment by ken
2007-10-20 13:17:54

wow i dont even want to see these 2 fight.. they’re not worth it. So many better match-ups to be had than these 2 contending for title.

 
Comment by GSP4prez
2007-10-20 13:49:25

Is this a joke? Neither of these guys have beat anyone good there whole career and there gonna get a title shot? How are these guys ahead of Jardine, Alexander, or Forrest. Hell Tito deserves a title shot more than these guys. What a joke.

 
Comment by Plinko
2007-10-20 14:06:29

I dont believe it, I cant.

 
Comment by EazyEismydad
2007-10-20 14:30:20

Wow just about everyone agrees this is the stupidest thing they could have done… and we are all right.

 
Comment by PW
2007-10-20 14:32:11

Rampage would kick both their asses at the same time in a handicap match.

 
Comment by Homie
2007-10-20 15:03:02

Dana did this just to piss tito off!

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 15:25:50

[quote comment="185320"]you guys are all haters – i say if these 2 think they are ready then give them a shot. Bisping is undefeated, and Rashad is a threat to any fighter at 205.[/quote]
i agree and making it a #1 contenders macth puts some kick into the main event and maybe they will beat the crap out of each other to get the shot

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 15:28:23

[quote comment="185385"]Well looking at the bright side of things this fight and the title fight after it will get both out of the way
and give jackson a fight and more importantly a title defense
and thirdly give griffin/shogun time to heal
alexander to get another win
liddell and wandy will take place
and henderson to get a big win maybe over jardine?[/quote]
true true

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 15:29:29

[quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 15:31:09

[quote comment="185510"]i think he’s just trying to put some more hype behind a sub par main event, i don’t think either one of those guys deserves a title shot and i know neither one of those guys would beat rampage…[/quote]

dont forget how many UPSETS there has been in the UFC recently

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 15:32:25

[quote comment="185675"]Dana did this just to piss tito off![/quote]

well Tito did piss Dana off and thays y its not Evans Ortiz II

 
Comment by MMA_MIND
2007-10-20 16:00:52

It would be much better if the winner of this fight ( that I actually think will be really good) should get Shougan and then they could be worth a title shot. And UFC already talked Evans might get a title shot if he beat Tito….he got a a draw so if he wins another one he should be close again. Not sure why but I reallt think this might be a really good one. Bisbing by TKO in the 2nd

Would really like for Hammil and Ortiz to develope some bad blood and then fight each other…be a great Fight Night headliner

 
Comment by DB
2007-10-20 16:01:58

As previously noted and stated frequently the division is in chaos. And it’s not getting any better. With Forrest Griffin, Shogun and Matt Hammil all getting surgery it looks like we won’t see a lot of the divisions Super stars egt fights any time soon. But I have a better solution than this joke. Have Jardine fight Rampage @ UFC 80 for the title and the winner of Bisbing vs Rashad @ UFC 78 should fight the winner of Liddell vs Silva and the winner of that fight should get the next title shot.

 
Comment by Scott
2007-10-20 16:26:05

The whole idea of one of these guys getting a title just seems absolutely absurd, but then again I don’t think either of them even belongs in a main event. I mean they might be on the outskirts of the top ten, but I can’t even see their diehard fans arguing that they’re deserving of a top 5 ranking or a title shot. It just seems that there are so many other fighters in the light heavyweight division more deserving of a title shot or contender match. If it’s really true, whoever is making that decision ought to lay off the pipe.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-10-20 16:51:09

Hamills Fans Are Losing Sleep Over This One.

 
Comment by Sour Diesel
2007-10-20 16:54:05

[quote comment="185721"][quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC[/quote]

WHO DIED ? , WHEN ? , ON A LIVE PAY PER VIEW ??
I Need A Link. I Just Dont Beleive You. Ive Never Heard This Before Infact Ive Heard The Exact Opposite.

 
Comment by skatanicus
2007-10-20 17:35:20

The winner could get a title shot. Matt Serra got a title shot after beating Lytle and he wasn’t undefeated- (on paper) Rashad and Bisping are. Also they would be beating another TUF winner so Dana could make a big deal out of it given the way things are and give the winner the shot. I wouldn’t consider this confirmed yet, and I was in disbelief when I saw the story, but I definitely think it’s a possibility.

 
Comment by jroc
2007-10-20 17:47:27

man these rookies need alot more training before they get a title shot. i agree with db i think whoever wins out of evans/bisping should fight the winner of liddell/silva and whoever wins that can get their ass whipped by rampage

 
Comment by jroc
2007-10-20 17:49:56

michael don’t know what hes talking about hes just i of those guys who wants all the attention

 
Comment by Neil
2007-10-20 17:58:16

I would presume being a brit that this story was run by ‘The Sun’. If this is true then the story is false to a point. ‘The Sun’ is very good at story headlines and I would suggest that they have twisted Dana’s words. I would think he probably said something along the lines of ‘one of these guys will eventually get a title shot’!!!

Or they are telling the truth, in which case I think Dana has got it wrong – Forrest vs Jardine 2 the winner takes Rampage.

 
Comment by gipper
2007-10-20 18:00:07

Rashad Evans- 5-0-1 ufc record, draw to tito, undefeated in 6
Micheal Bisping- 4-0 ufc record, 4 wins in a row
Forrest Griffin- 5-2 ufc record, 2 wins in a row, losses to to tito and jardine
Keith Jardine- 5-2 ufc record, 1 win in a row losses to alexander and bonnar
Houstin Alexander- 2-0 ufc record, 2 wins in a row including win over jardine
Evans and Bisping have the best records. If evans wins in convincing fashion i can see him getting a shot at the title. I think bisping would need one more win if he can some how get past evans. Forrest, Keith, Houston don’t have the win streaks i guess.
i personally want to see forrest fight rampage. he has the best chance out of the guys above.
if wanderlei beats chuck i think they’ll give him the shot at the title.

 
Comment by IceMuncher
2007-10-20 18:07:20

[quote comment="185833"][quote comment="185721"][quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC[/quote]

WHO DIED ? , WHEN ? , ON A LIVE PAY PER VIEW ??
I Need A Link. I Just Dont Beleive You. Ive Never Heard This Before Infact Ive Heard The Exact Opposite.[/quote]

He’s full of crap and doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There has never been a death in the UFC.

However, there has been a death in MMA, and as far as I know, it’s the only one. There was a guy who couldn’t get cleared to fight in America because he had some sort of head trauma that the doctors wouldn’t allow him fight with. So he said “screw the doctors” and fought in an unregulated league in a different country, and died. Darwin award winner imo.

 
Comment by Da Monkey
2007-10-20 18:12:01

[quote comment="185833"][quote comment="185721"][quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC[/quote]

WHO DIED ? , WHEN ? , ON A LIVE PAY PER VIEW ??
I Need A Link. I Just Dont Beleive You. Ive Never Heard This Before Infact Ive Heard The Exact Opposite.[/quote]

I second this who, what, where, when, why, and how?

 
Comment by GasManShad
2007-10-20 18:41:56

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]
you want to see heath get a title shot?

 
Comment by GasManShad
2007-10-20 18:44:22

bisping truly might die if he fights rampage.
he is worse in every aspect of the game

 
Comment by Machine
2007-10-20 19:40:21

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]

If anyone deservers a shot at the champ it should be Forrest 1st & then Jardine. Actually, like him or not, you could exchange Machida with either of those 2 names strictly because he does have wins over top talent.

J-Ro, either you’re one funny dude or a complete prick because anyone free of brain-damage can see that Heath has no business on this list lol

 
Comment by Machine
2007-10-20 19:46:08

[quote comment="185214"]This is incredible news!

Knowing that you dont have to fight any big name fighters (except Rashad but he should of lost to Tito) and get a title shot, while Forrest defeated the best 205 pounder in all of the land, Jardine defeated Liddell, Houston defeated Jardine.

This would be awful.[/quote]

I usually agree with alot of your quotes but the whole thing about Tito winning that fight against Rashad is bogus. Tito stopped THREE (3) takedowns by holding the cage. I say let him keep the point McCarthy snatched & bolster Rah’s points with the 3 takedowns he deserves and suddenly that fight ends in a draw at best.

 
Comment by Wayne
2007-10-20 19:51:29

maybe they should let both of them in the ring with rampage at the same time so they would have a chance the way i see it is they both lost there last fight regardless of what the judges said.

 
Comment by Machine
2007-10-20 19:55:38

[quote comment="185320"]you guys are all haters – i say if these 2 think they are ready then give them a shot. Bisping is undefeated, and Rashad is a threat to any fighter at 205.[/quote]

I’m an admitted Evans fan & although I do agree that Rah is no walk-through for any 205er, he is NOT ready for Rampage. Potential is just that & to compete with a fighter of Quinton’s level before one is ready could very well be detrimental if that fighter is not metally prepared for the inevitable outcome of adding a loss to their own record.
We all know that, “anything can happen” but if Rah or Bisping were to gain a title shot against Rampage & either of them fought at the peak of their potential & Rampage fought at the peak of his potential then Rampage wins in impressive fashion under all possible scenarios.

 
Comment by Machine
2007-10-20 20:07:38

[quote comment="185776"]As previously noted and stated frequently the division is in chaos. And it’s not getting any better. With Forrest Griffin, Shogun and Matt Hammil all getting surgery it looks like we won’t see a lot of the divisions Super stars egt fights any time soon. But I have a better solution than this joke. Have Jardine fight Rampage @ UFC 80 for the title and the winner of Bisbing vs Rashad @ UFC 78 should fight the winner of Liddell vs Silva and the winner of that fight should get the next title shot.[/quote]

This makes sense to me.

 
Comment by Rolf Smitherines
2007-10-20 21:38:51

I don’t think either are ready. Bisping BARELY defeated Hamill and I thought Hamill won that fight. I think Bisping would lose against most of the 205ers such as Liddell, Ortiz, Jardine, Alexander, Wanderlei, Griffin, Bonnar, etc. Rashad did beat Brad Imes but he needs a few more fights with all the ones I mentioned above.

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 22:31:25

[quote comment="185776"]As previously noted and stated frequently the division is in chaos. And it’s not getting any better. With Forrest Griffin, Shogun and Matt Hammil all getting surgery it looks like we won’t see a lot of the divisions Super stars egt fights any time soon. But I have a better solution than this joke. Have Jardine fight Rampage @ UFC 80 for the title and the winner of Bisbing vs Rashad @ UFC 78 should fight the winner of Liddell vs Silva and the winner of that fight should get the next title shot.[/quote]
Rampage is injured too he will be out for almost a year

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 22:33:27

[quote comment="185833"][quote comment="185721"][quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC[/quote]

WHO DIED ? , WHEN ? , ON A LIVE PAY PER VIEW ??
I Need A Link. I Just Dont Beleive You. Ive Never Heard This Before Infact Ive Heard The Exact Opposite.[/quote]

it was years ago i dont exactly remember when but i do remember it

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 22:34:46

[quote comment="185833"][quote comment="185721"][quote comment="185469"]WHAT?—HOW CAN THEY HAVE A TITLE SHOT, RAMPAGE IS GOING TO DESTROY THEM,— BOYS- I THINK WE MAY SEE THE FIRST DEATH IN MMA–I HOPE NOT, BUT C’MON[/quote]

sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC[/quote]

WHO DIED ? , WHEN ? , ON A LIVE PAY PER VIEW ??
I Need A Link. I Just Dont Beleive You. Ive Never Heard This Before Infact Ive Heard The Exact Opposite.[/quote]
it was years ago i dont exactly remember when but i do remember it

 
Comment by Michael
2007-10-20 22:38:42

[quote comment="185903"]michael don’t know what hes talking about hes just i of those guys who wants all the attention[/quote]
i know more than u think and my brother will back me up with alot of stuff as well

 
Comment by Heath
2007-10-21 00:08:37

I feel like nobody seems to understand Rashad on TUF and he beat Jardine whose beaten Chuck, I think he would’ve beaten Tito the next time, Forrest lost to Jardine, Forrest lost to Tito, Jardine Lost to Alexander and Rashad, so Rashad looks like the better person for it, you guys just don’t like these guys that’s it .

 
Comment by Spawn
2007-10-21 01:59:31

This is BULLCRAP.

 
Comment by Mamas Boy
2007-10-21 06:45:47

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]
Agreed

 
Comment by Extreme Clown
2007-10-21 09:10:35

Dana White will not get away with having Evans & Bisping as top draw this is a joke looks like we go down hill from here!

 
Comment by 12121212
2007-10-21 10:16:05

[quote post="3646"] feel like nobody seems to understand Rashad on TUF and he beat Jardine whose beaten Chuck, I think he would’ve beaten Tito the next time, Forrest lost to Jardine, Forrest lost to Tito, Jardine Lost to Alexander and Rashad, so Rashad looks like the better person for it, you guys just don’t like these guys that’s it . [/quote]

That was years ago when Rashad beat Jardine. After his performance against Tito, he really doesn’t deserve a contender matchup. Anyway, theres nothing we can do about it, but I expect that Rashad will destroy Bisping, and go on to lose the title fight.

[quote post="3646"]sorry there has already been 1 death in the UFC [/quote]

There has never been a death in a UFC match.

According to internet sources, there was 1 death in the sport of MMA, which was in an unsanctioned event held in Ukraine without use of gloves. The man who died already had a brain injury that caused him to blackout occasionally during training, and was advised by a doctor not to fight. However, he decided to fight anyway, and died later on from injuries sustained during the fight.

 
Comment by ryanko
2007-10-21 10:50:16

[quote comment="185211"]No fucking way these either one of these guys deserve a title shot[/quote]

I couldnt have said it better myself.

 
Comment by Googan
2007-10-21 16:52:39

What is Bisping’s appeal?? I’ve been confused ever since UFC decided to make this kid a posterboy. He was a jackass since the beginning of the TUF season he was on and he still is. He won that TUF final because Hamil was hurt. The guy has no credentials and he’s very mediocre in the cage. It really doesn’t make any sense to me why Dana has such a crush on him. I really hope Rashad smashes him.

Neither of them deserve a title shot (obviously). Griffin and Jardine should be at top contention right now, with Wanderlei mixed in somehow. The division is really strange right now because Griffin, Jardine and Chuck all have recent losses (Chuck with 2 in a row). The way I see it for Wanderlei to be in the mix for title contention, a fight with Chuck doesn’t make sense because of Chuck’s recent losses.

 
Comment by dylan
2007-10-21 19:05:15

RO j David Heath r u kidding he doesnt deserve a title shot over bisping or evans he has lsot his last two fights

 
Comment by dylan
2007-10-21 19:07:19

12121212 rashad never beat jardine r u on drugs

 
Comment by 12121212
2007-10-21 20:34:38

[quote post="3646"]12121212 rashad never beat jardine r u on drugs[/quote]

yeah he did on the Ultimate Fighter

 
Comment by jel
2007-10-22 04:44:01

if this is true,and i have my doubts,than it’s crazy! there are guys more deserving of a title shot. this has to be bullshit. i get all ufc ppv but,it’s going to take a better main event then, bisbing vs. evans to warrent me paying for this ppv. NO FUCKING WAY WILL I BE SUPPORTING THIS GARBAGE! especially since i know that there are better fighters who would give anything to have a chance like this! this “main event”,and the opportunity for a title shot is total BS! there just no way that i’ll be giving them my money!

 
Comment by Mark
2007-10-22 04:47:40

Rashad is ready for a shot definately. He has wins over jardine, stephan bonnar and who saw him drop big brad irons? This guy took out all the Heavy weights in the ultimate fighter, so has proved he is a force. How could you disagree? If bisping wants to win this one he will have to have his running shoes on, after beating hamill by running away for 3 rounds… A win here will not guarantee a title shot but definatley put rashad on track. Rampage isn’t unstoppable. Maybe evans would fall short in a match, but it’s worth a crack.. and maybe Houston Alexander could take him out after a couple more dominant victories. Can’t wait to see how it all unfolds.

 
Comment by new mma fan
2007-10-22 07:19:46

Oh my God, how AMAZING would that be? Undeserved, but amazing. First, neither of these guys deserve a title shot for a long time, if ever. Second, i can’t see Bisping making it past Rashad. But I would LOVE, and I do mean Love to watch Bisping get obliterated by Rampage. Christ, I’d remove a testicle with a spoon to watch that! Just…..hate……Bisping……So…..much!

 
Comment by Kevin Kelly
2007-10-22 07:57:29

Ummm truely ridiculous comes to mind ? Neither fighter is a top 5 contender … UFC, the hits just keep coming and coming. I know Forrest Griffen is scheduled to have surgery but come on man. I guess Bisping has more street cred than a guy like Tito.

 
Comment by AaronW
2007-10-22 09:09:30

TUF fights do not get added into any MMA records except the ones that the UFC keeps. Either way this is a gift match for Rampage. He will beat either one of these guys badly.

 
Comment by Rob
2007-10-22 09:30:49

[quote comment="185252"][quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]

Yeah all these guys are ahead of the two TUFers. I’d even say Shogun despite his lack lustre performance against Griffin.

Maybe this is the easy defense Rampage wants next. Didn’t he say something like that. Nearly all champs get one or two easy ones just to keep things ticking over while a messed up division sorts itself out. Hell I know MW is shallow but Franklin got Nate Quarry so it could actually happen.

It would be a joke. Then again Jardine just beat Liddell so who knows?[/quote]

It’s tough to say that anyone in the UFC is an easy defense but I agree with what you’re saying.

These guys are undefeated and fairly impressive and the division needs to work things out with all of the new aquisitions so it kind of makes sense.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Rampage handing one of them their first loss.

 
Comment by Rob
2007-10-22 09:38:16

[quote comment="187526"]What is Bisping’s appeal?? I’ve been confused ever since UFC decided to make this kid a posterboy. He was a jackass since the beginning of the TUF season he was on and he still is. He won that TUF final because Hamil was hurt. The guy has no credentials and he’s very mediocre in the cage. It really doesn’t make any sense to me why Dana has such a crush on him. I really hope Rashad smashes him.

Neither of them deserve a title shot (obviously). Griffin and Jardine should be at top contention right now, with Wanderlei mixed in somehow. The division is really strange right now because Griffin, Jardine and Chuck all have recent losses (Chuck with 2 in a row). The way I see it for Wanderlei to be in the mix for title contention, a fight with Chuck doesn’t make sense because of Chuck’s recent losses.[/quote]

Bisping is good for marketing in the UK and the UK is a major world market. That’s why Dana is pushing him out there.

Chuck v Wanderlei makes sense because everyone wants to see it and it would be a huge money maker. Even with the recent loss, the match would still be huge.

As a fan, you’re understadably looking at fighters and rankings. As a business, the UFC is looking also at making a lot of money.

 
Comment by Googan
2007-10-22 16:22:52

lol, way to state the obvious Rob.

Yes, Dana wants to market to the UK, but the problem is Dana choosing the first British scrub to win fights in the UFC to do so.

And yes, I want to watch Chuck vs. Wandy too. Just pointing out the jumbled rankings for title contention in the division.

 
Comment by Anonymousf*ck
2007-10-23 09:35:47

[quote comment="185193"]Houston Alexander
Forest Griffin
Keith Jardine
David Heath
Dan Henderson
Lyoto Machida
Mauricio Rua
Wanderlei Silva

Just to name a few that I would rather see get a title fight[/quote]

David Heath? Dan Henderson?..none of these 2 guys can take it from Rampage

 
Comment by jdawg78
2007-10-25 23:01:53

ok.i dont care who fights bisping as long as he gets his ass kicked.i will be happy.im just waiting for someone to beat the (count) down.his way over rated and his true colors will be shown.mark my words.will will probably see him in the ifl soon with all the other nobodies of the mma world.

 
Comment by matt
2007-10-27 22:17:31

Rashad Evans would take anyone out on that list Anonymous.

 
Comment by matt
2007-10-27 22:19:24

Forest is a fan favorite since he took that pumbling from tito. Jardine shit on forest but fot destroyed by both rashad and houston.. so who can say who deserves it?> Dan henderson got a shot and choked pretty bad who would u say deserves it more then rashad?

 
Comment by Paul Booth
2007-11-06 06:59:46

The last Bisping fight at the O2 in London produced record receipts for the UFC. So I guess Bisping is a big name. Also he was the only one to accept a fight against Rashad Evans. Tito backed off and nobody else came forward. Dan White likes what Bisping does for the UFC. It would be better for the UFC for Bisping to win but the result is as uncertain as a Chuck Liddell fight or Tim Sylva fight. But most people will be disappointed that Fedor and Couture are not fighting very soon for heavyweight crown.

 
Comment by TooTall2
2007-11-19 12:02:22

Bisbing is nothing but a poster boy for the UFC UK Marketing team. He is a joke as a LHW. He lost the fight in the UK to Matt Hamill and it seems like Evans was held back, or he turned to crap since I last saw him fight. That was the worst fight I have seen since Bisbings last fight. Thank God for the undercards. Joe T was awesome, that kid is going places.

 
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