Finally, it’s really happening.

yahoooo

Talk about a fucking brawl this is going to be. This match ending in submission will not be fitting.

YEEEESSSSSSS!!!!

FINALLY. If this fight didn’t get done, for December, a lot of long time loyal UFC fans may have been pushed over the edge by Dana White with everything that has happened lately, headlined by Randy resigned, Fedor M-1.

BYE BYE Chucky

So what’s the headliner going to be? This, or the title fight!? Going to be a great f’n card.

This is a MUCH BETTER fight now that Chuck is sucking. Last year this fight would have had more hype, but there’s no question chuck would have KO’ed Wandy in the 1st. Styles make fights, and Wandy would charge like a raging monkey and chuck would simply do his trademark backpeddling KO punch.

Now it’s totally up in the air. Monkey rage may be able to get passed a Chuck in decline.

should be the headliner..not Serra vs Hughes

HOLY CRAP. YES!!!!!

I’d say if Chuck still had the title that may be so. I’d be pretty pissed if I was a champ and my fight wasn’t the headliner. If Chuck still had the title, this would have been the biggest fight in MMA history, by far.

check out chuck’s shorts in the pic…

Chuck Liddell wins via Flying armbar.

in all honestly,

Wanderlei Silva wins via gogoplata..

Alright in all seriousness.

Wanderlei Silva will outstrike Chuck Liddell to a Split Decision.

How do back-to-back-to-back losses sound to you, Wanderlei?

IM ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHUCK FANS BUT THE WAY HES BEEN FIGHTING HAS BEEN SCARING ME HE BETTER HAVE HIS CRAP TOGETHER BECAUSE I KNOW WANDERLEIS’ GONNA BRING AN AX AND NO ICE PICKS GONNA BEAT THAT SO LETS GO CHUCK THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE IF NOT THATS 3 IN A ROW AND THAT MEANS RETIREMENT OR A LONG ROAD COMING BACK GETUM DOG

Someone is getting knocked out.

Wand has a huge advantage, just because of the age difference. Randy aside, dudes over 36, 37 just don’t usually beat younger fighters at the same talent level. Wand should crush Chuck for that reason alone.

I think the fight will be an anti-climactic beatdown by Wand.

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! The only down side is one of these two guys is down 3 in a row… It will be a hard road for the loser of this fight.

Sorry, I’m not going believe this until they both set foot in the Octagon that night. There’s still to many things that could screw this fight up, namely injuries during training.

[quote comment="182545"]IM ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHUCK FANS BUT THE WAY HES BEEN FIGHTING HAS BEEN SCARING ME HE BETTER HAVE HIS CRAP TOGETHER BECAUSE I KNOW WANDERLEIS’ GONNA BRING AN AX AND NO ICE PICKS GONNA BEAT THAT SO LETS GO CHUCK THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE IF NOT THATS 3 IN A ROW AND THAT MEANS RETIREMENT OR A LONG ROAD COMING BACK GETUM DOG[/quote]

I agree.. The Axe Murderer has not had a fight in awhile, this doesnt look good for chuck. Chuck fan for life!! Ill be root’n for ya!!

[quote comment="182511"]yahoooo[/quote]

Goooooogle!

[quote post="3630"]How do back-to-back-to-back losses sound to you, Wanderlei?[/quote]

How do back-to-back-to-back losses sound to you, Chuck?

[quote comment="182563"][quote comment="182511"]yahoooo[/quote]

Goooooogle![/quote]

LA LA LA LA LLLYYYYYCCCCCOOOOOSSS!!!!!!!!!

I think if the Iceman doesn’t bring it, it will be the end for him. If the Ax Murder doesn’t bring it then the hype about Pride fights not making it in the UFC is true. This fight means alot to both fighters and the world of MMA!!

[quote comment="182549"]Someone is getting knocked out.[/quote]

That someone will be Chucky.

Chuck is going to win this fight mainly for the same reason why most of the Pride fighters have lost their recent UFC debuts. The layoff has been too long and Wand will look similar to Shogun in that he will not be in “fighting shape” and will not be crisp with his timing where Chuck although he has lost recent fights he will at least be crisp with his timing and be able to catch Wand.

Dana needs this fight in order to revive Chucks career so it should be interesting.

[quote comment="182537"]check out chuck’s shorts in the pic…[/quote]
I think they Photoshopped the flowers in along with Chuck’s abs.

I believe we will see the old Chuck in this fight. I honestly believe that in his fight with Rampage he just simply got caught. Although you have to give it to Jardine for establishing a perfect game plan and executing it. Don’t think that would happen again though. Chuck will come out like a wild man in this fight and I think you will see him marching forward instead of backing up. Chuck is not washed up he just had a couple of hiccups. That being said, I sure hope that Wandy wins.

[quote post="3630"]Wand has a huge advantage, just because of the age difference. Randy aside, dudes over 36, 37 just don’t usually beat younger fighters at the same talent level. Wand should crush Chuck for that reason alone.[/quote]

Wandi’s age advantage of being younger than Chuck is negated by the amount of punishment each fighter has taken. I think that it is quite obvious that Wandi has taken far more punishment over the years than Chuck. Since Chuck became champ in 2004, how much punishment has he taken in his fights, seriously now. Barely any! Excluding his last fight, he basically got 1 punch KO’d by Rampage and prior to that, he was barely touched, especially against Randy twice, Babalu and Vernon White. Jeremy Horn and Tito didn’t exactly beat up Chuck, but at least they punched him once or twice.

Wandi has had 40 pro fights. Chuck has had 25. Wandi fought in PRIDE for most of his career. In PRIDE, they had open weight tournaments where you often had to fight guys much larger than yourself. Wanderlei Silva has fought the likes of Mark Hunt, Cro Cop, and Fujita. Wandi took more punishment in the Cro Cop and Hunt fights than Chuck has over his entire career.

The age difference will make zero difference in this fight. A complete non-factor.

[quote comment="182592"][quote comment="182537"]check out chuck’s shorts in the pic…[/quote]
I think they Photoshopped the flowers in along with Chuck’s abs.[/quote]

You may be right but they definately Photoshopped Chuck’s six pack abs.

Wandi by TKO

chuck lost his chin.. and thats all their is to it!!! wandi will cream him in the first or secoond round… and we will see chucks ground game finaly… and he couldnt handle rampgae on on the ground in pride… if it goes to the ground… say goodbye to chuck .. lets get real people… randy is helping wandi… ground game will be a major factor in this fight…chuck is afraid to test his chin .. whatch and see

Randy is in South Africa. And do you think that Randy’s gameplans work against Chuck????

I GUARANTEE Silva wins. Chuck doesn’t stand a chance.

Good fight, If Wandy comes out like the silva of old then Chuck is going down. If Chuck bounces back and takes his time and finds his shots then silva will go down. It’s hard to call this one since both fighters are coming off of two losses. They both didn’t look good in there last two fights. I think who ever come better prepared and with there shit together will win. I have no clue who will show up so this is a toss up.

Wow I’m surprised Silva is only 31, like Cro Cop age has caught up with him very quickly, must be the lifestyle. But seriously did anyone see how old he looked during the Shogun- Forrest fight? he looked alot older than when Crocop knocked him out a couple years ago

dude im going to this event fuck yeah baby go “ICEMAN”

Wandy via stoppage in the 2nd. If chuck couldn’t defend against Jardine’s simple attacks, what’s he gonna do against Wandy? Maybe chuck when before rampage got to him for the second time, but not now.

So what happens if Chuck loses? Isn’y it 3 in a row and you are out? He better win otherwise he is fucked. I hope he steps up, because Silva is going to be an animal.

Oh.My.God.

3rd consecutive loss for both on the line! This one will be a slobberknocker. My money is on Wand.

[quote comment="182600"][quote post="3630"]Wand has a huge advantage, just because of the age difference. Randy aside, dudes over 36, 37 just don’t usually beat younger fighters at the same talent level. Wand should crush Chuck for that reason alone.[/quote]

Wandi’s age advantage of being younger than Chuck is negated by the amount of punishment each fighter has taken. I think that it is quite obvious that Wandi has taken far more punishment over the years than Chuck. Since Chuck became champ in 2004, how much punishment has he taken in his fights, seriously now. Barely any! Excluding his last fight, he basically got 1 punch KO’d by Rampage and prior to that, he was barely touched, especially against Randy twice, Babalu and Vernon White. Jeremy Horn and Tito didn’t exactly beat up Chuck, but at least they punched him once or twice.

Wandi has had 40 pro fights. Chuck has had 25. Wandi fought in PRIDE for most of his career. In PRIDE, they had open weight tournaments where you often had to fight guys much larger than yourself. Wanderlei Silva has fought the likes of Mark Hunt, Cro Cop, and Fujita. Wandi took more punishment in the Cro Cop and Hunt fights than Chuck has over his entire career.

The age difference will make zero difference in this fight. A complete non-factor.[/quote]
I don’t think that will nearly be a factor due to Wandi’s younger body being able to heal, and Chuck’s age slowing him down, his body is slowing down. I see wandi winning this anyway. And I hope he does. I would rather see him in the mix now, since Chuck is more and more proving to not be a real force anymore.

They both have proved to be able to ko and to get tko’d. It could go either way but I give it to Chuck. He’s got more octagon experience, less ring rust and his hunger for a win is slighty bigger than Wandi’s. Let’s just pray it doesn’t go to decision.

If Chuck doesn’t “rise to the occassion” it will be a short night for him. Here’s hoping that both fighters regain their old form. IMO this fight is exactly what both of them need.

Off topic – the UFC has cancelled its tentative January date in Montreal.

[quote comment="182669"]They both have proved to be able to ko and to get tko’d. It could go either way but I give it to Chuck. He’s got more octagon experience, less ring rust and his hunger for a win is slighty bigger than Wandi’s. Let’s just pray it doesn’t go to decision.[/quote]

How do you know Chuck is hungrier that Wand? I think Wand is hungrier than Chuck as can be seen in Chuck’s last two performances.

I like the tag “Miss it and weep”

[quote comment="182616"]I GUARANTEE Silva wins. Chuck doesn’t stand a chance.[/quote]

Hmmm do you take bets? Have you been watching UFC this year?
You are pretty brave to guarantee a win.
I see it 50/50 chance but I do want Chuck to loose but I would put money on him to win, hell I would put money on Silva too.

IT WAS ABOUT F-IN TIME!

[quote comment="182676"]If Chuck doesn’t “rise to the occassion” it will be a short night for him. Here’s hoping that both fighters regain their old form. IMO this fight is exactly what both of them need.

Off topic – the UFC has cancelled its tentative January date in Montreal.[/quote]
Yeah and this time Dana is blaming it on the HBO deal that fell apart. I think he just realized that it would be a stupid move to have a card in Canada without GSP on it, it would make more sense for a March/April date so that one of the Matt’s can get their asses handed to them on Canadian Soil.

I do recall being at UFC 58 and I was amazed by how ignorant some people were in the stands towards GSP when he beat BJ. He was getting Booed left and right when he had the mic after his win and he was thanking all the fans no matter where they were from, American, Mexican, Japanese, Canadian…..It just showed how shallow some fans are.
This is one thing you will not see in Canada. What you will hear is a place with 20,000 people cheering for GSP.

I like the stakes in this fight. Loser gets a third L in a row. Very ballsy move by both fighters (and their camps). This fight is about Honour.

I can’t wait for the stare down.

I cant wait for this , hope its a long battle and not over quick.

Whats up with the flowers on Chucks shorts?

Both fighters coming off losses. It must be a win win for either fighter. If Chuck loses this, he will pack up and retire. I’m a Pride fan and especially Wand fan, Wan is going to come foward, Chuck will backup and counter with a knock out punch. I hope Wand wins but this fight will suit Chuck more unless of course wand can get that thai clinch in and destroy chuck with knees.

I believe it is not good time for Chuck to fight Wandy.Coming off from two losses in less than six months, I dont think he might be ready, but peolpe want to see this fight including myself.Chuck’s last perfomance was poor and I dont know, but three losses in a row might put a fighter out the game.

Its a win win for Chuck. even if he loses he will get paid like 250,000. That’s 750,000 for three losses in a row. QWho could get mad about that. Even if the Wandi fight goes three rounds, if you add the fights up its a little less than 1.5 mil an hour. Not bad for a thirty something year old with a slight beer gut and a mowhawk.

So what’s the main event? You have this fight, the Serra Hughes title fight and then possibly the lightweight title fight. I’m sure this fight is what most people are excited to see but it’s not a title fight. Anybody know?

“Wandererlei”?

[quote comment="182741"]Its a win win for Chuck. even if he loses he will get paid like 250,000. That’s 750,000 for three losses in a row. QWho could get mad about that. Even if the Wandi fight goes three rounds, if you add the fights up its a little less than 1.5 mil an hour. Not bad for a thirty something year old with a slight beer gut and a mowhawk.[/quote]

I’m still unimpressed considering the comparable is not your Joe Six-Pack but other professional fighters. Chuck Liddell was the face of MMA prior to Randy having taken that position after his victory against Sylvia, and Liddell was a dominant LHW champ. That pretty much means he was the best the UFC had to offer, the pinnacle of American mixed-martial arts (since even by Dana White’s admission the LHW’s were the “rock stars” at the time) and he gets just that relative chump change?

I keep going back to the De La Hoya/Mayweather fight, but those guys took home major scratch. De La Hoya made over $40M.

Liddell should have made more.

You can’t compare a UFC champ’s pay to a working man’s salary. It’s senseless to compare a fighter’s money to your own income (that’s a general “you,” by the way). You can work for over 45 years (20 – 65) with no problem, and when you retire, your body and brain will be in fine condition.

Dana must have called directv and given them an ass chewing because they changed the ad for ufc 79 on the link at the top. Wish i could have heard how that conversation went down!!

I wasn’t very clear in my last post. I wasn’t only referring to this match but to mma fighters’ pay in general. I use Chuck as an example because he’s a champ that got paid beans in his career compared to other fighters in a comparable position.

the title fight will definitly be the main event. Look at ufc 73 the to title fights were the headliners even though most people were more interested in the ortiz vs. evan fight.

This fight can go 3 rounds or it can end in the first 30 seconds, the first one to connect flush WINS!

Happy Holidays bitches!!!!!!!! I can’t wait!

chuck needs the win more given his age and his last loss was against Keith Jardine (no disrespect to him but he’s not in the top 5 LHW in the world). Wandy could recover from this loss but if chuck loses i sense a retirement announcement (similar to when Randy retired…the first time). I’m rooting for the iceman!!!

chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.

noooooooooo!

That’s why the ticket prices for floor seats are marked up 150%

if Chuck loses this one I don’t know what he’ll do… probably retire.

[quote comment="182643"]Wow I’m surprised Silva is only 31, like Cro Cop age has caught up with him very quickly, must be the lifestyle. But seriously did anyone see how old he looked during the Shogun- Forrest fight? he looked alot older than when Crocop knocked him out a couple years ago[/quote]
dude crocop doesnt drink, doesnt smoke all he does is train and work in goverment in croatia, and be with his family, how do you get worn out by that lifestyle????,.he couldnt breath in the past years now he got that fixed hell be back and not slow down with his striking

[quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters

No worries gentlemen, after UFC 77 DirecTV will have that graphic back up. They probably forgot they had to wait until after Saturday to add that description.

The day is here….

[quote comment="182889"][quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters[/quote]

If Chuck fought Fedor himself people would still say things like that. Shake it off man, ignorance is bliss. “It’s a haters job to hate” as Katt Williams says.

[quote post="3630"]yahoooo
Goooooogle! [/quote]
Asssskkkk!

[quote comment="182814"]This fight can go 3 rounds or it can end in the first 30 seconds, the first one to connect flush WINS![/quote]

Hey, if they are going fight, give them 5 rounds if they need it. This is too special to leave at three rounds.

Peace

i don’t give a shit that they both lost 2 in a row. their both still 2 of the best. this needed to happen.

[quote comment="182889"][quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters[/quote]

Wow, you must have long arms cuz that post of yours is one helluva reach;

Overeem ( well rounded) — There’s absolutely nothing well rounded about Overeem. The guy has a ton of potential but he’s never been able to get anywhere near it.

Bustamante ( good striker) — Jury’s still out on this one.

Babalu ( very dangerous) — Dangerous only if he’s able to take you down & anyone with half a brain who’s watched at least 2 of Chuck’s fights knows that you can’t take Chuck down with a straight-shoot because his sprawl is too good. Apparently, Babalu never got that memo. And what the hell was he thinking in their 2nd fight wanting to strike? I digress.

Couture ( one of the best) — I’ll give you this one because he stomped CL in the 1st fight & had him on the run in their 2nd until he slipped, lost his footing & CL capitalized on the mistake.

Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop) — He didnt out-fight Cro Cop, he hit him with one helluva punch. Randleman is another 1 dimensional waste of athletecism. I think the roids have fried his brain-cells or something. Had he gotten into a solid camp he coulda really been more than a flash in the pan but MMA evolved & he didnt…..the end.

Horn( well rounded) — Horn has a solid ground game but he’s NOT well rounded. His striking leaves much to be desired.

Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)– See Babalu

Belfort(in his prime) — I gotta take this one with a grain of salt because of Belfort’s super-fragile mental state at the time of this fight. His sister had just been kidnapped a week or so earlier. No man could possibly wrap up a training camp according to plan & be 100% focused come fight night under this circumstance. When you compare tape of Vitor in his prime & Chuck in his prime, I see Vitor winning their fight in fashion.

Suloev (well rounded)– So am I….

Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power) — This is when I realized how long your arms are….

Man, I hate how Chuck loses a couple of fights and now everyone basically loses all respect for him. When he was champion everyone was on his nuts like white on rice, but now he should retire if he loses?

People forget that he got knocked out by arguably the best fighter in the world right now, and then lost a decision to Keith Jardine who countered Chuck’s style perfectly and avoided getting hit with that huge right.

I still think Lidell is a great fighter, regardless of what happens in this fight… Wandy is also a great fighter, they have both proved their worth to MMA. I can’t wait to watch 79, the card is just ridiculous.

mania–where did you find this confirmed?

please pull off this win chuck.knock out or decision i dont care just win.oh and chucks shorts are tapout shorts he wears them when training.watch his all access

if wand is smart he won’t come charging at chuck like usual or he’ll get his head busted again like with crocop. chucky’s back early 2nd round KO.

[quote comment="182889"][quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters[/quote]

if any of these haters had seen the overeem fight IMO chuck was getting out striked. he actually went for a takedown or two also. the slow mo of him nailing overeem’s face made me wonder what held his skull together. absolutely vicious power. all i have to say is chuck fought the best guys that were around at the time. name one person he ducked?? you can’t. he even asked for a rematch with a guy named rampage who wooped his ass big time.

Don’t care who wins… just want to see it happen… and it’s gonna be a slugfest… neither one is gonna roll over.. 1st to connect on the button. lights out.

[quote comment="182988"]Man, I hate how Chuck loses a couple of fights and now everyone basically loses all respect for him. When he was champion everyone was on his nuts like white on rice, but now he should retire if he loses?

People forget that he got knocked out by arguably the best fighter in the world right now, and then lost a decision to Keith Jardine who countered Chuck’s style perfectly and avoided getting hit with that huge right.

I still think Lidell is a great fighter, regardless of what happens in this fight… Wandy is also a great fighter, they have both proved their worth to MMA. I can’t wait to watch 79, the card is just ridiculous.[/quote]

I agree completly…whoever losses this one is still an amazing fighter. I would rather see either of these guys loss, then have to watch another tito vs rashad fight. IMO Liddell has always been an exciting fighter, and having him on any card, makes it a must see. I don’t care if Chuck losses the rest of his fights, as long as he wants to be there, I will be there to watch and support.

[quote comment="182944"][quote comment="182889"][quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters[/quote]

Wow, you must have long arms cuz that post of yours is one helluva reach;

Overeem ( well rounded) — There’s absolutely nothing well rounded about Overeem. The guy has a ton of potential but he’s never been able to get anywhere near it.

Bustamante ( good striker) — Jury’s still out on this one.

Babalu ( very dangerous) — Dangerous only if he’s able to take you down & anyone with half a brain who’s watched at least 2 of Chuck’s fights knows that you can’t take Chuck down with a straight-shoot because his sprawl is too good. Apparently, Babalu never got that memo. And what the hell was he thinking in their 2nd fight wanting to strike? I digress.

Couture ( one of the best) — I’ll give you this one because he stomped CL in the 1st fight & had him on the run in their 2nd until he slipped, lost his footing & CL capitalized on the mistake.

Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop) — He didnt out-fight Cro Cop, he hit him with one helluva punch. Randleman is another 1 dimensional waste of athletecism. I think the roids have fried his brain-cells or something. Had he gotten into a solid camp he coulda really been more than a flash in the pan but MMA evolved & he didnt…..the end.

Horn( well rounded) — Horn has a solid ground game but he’s NOT well rounded. His striking leaves much to be desired.

Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)– See Babalu

Belfort(in his prime) — I gotta take this one with a grain of salt because of Belfort’s super-fragile mental state at the time of this fight. His sister had just been kidnapped a week or so earlier. No man could possibly wrap up a training camp according to plan & be 100% focused come fight night under this circumstance. When you compare tape of Vitor in his prime & Chuck in his prime, I see Vitor winning their fight in fashion.

Suloev (well rounded)– So am I….

Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power) — This is when I realized how long your arms are….[/quote]

Machine I’m glad you took the time to deconstruct that long reach because I almost laughed so hard the soda I was drinking was bout to spew out of my nose LMAO LMAO

[quote comment="182874"]if Chuck loses this one I don’t know what he’ll do… probably retire.[/quote]

hopefully go to M-1 and drags a few other fighters with him

[quote comment="182741"]Its a win win for Chuck. even if he loses he will get paid like 250,000. That’s 750,000 for three losses in a row. QWho could get mad about that. Even if the Wandi fight goes three rounds, if you add the fights up its a little less than 1.5 mil an hour. Not bad for a thirty something year old with a slight beer gut and a mowhawk.[/quote]

Chuck makes WAAAAAY more money than that per fight!

[quote comment="182809"]the title fight will definitly be the main event. Look at ufc 73 the to title fights were the headliners even though most people were more interested in the ortiz vs. evan fight.[/quote]

But Tito Ortiz vs Rashad Evans isn’t quite as big of a fight as Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck Liddell. Not by a long shot (obviously). They always do thave the title fights as the main event, but I think that this will be the exception. But with Hughes and Serra being the coaches this season, you know that they wil be promoting the hell outta that fight too. But I do think that Silva/Liddell HAS to be the main event. It would be a disgrace to them and mma as a whole if it wasn’t. Honestly, that fight is way bigger than any title fight. What they are fighting for just as, if not MORE important than a title!

Nice spelling of Wand’s name….

[quote comment="182944"][quote comment="182889"][quote comment="182851"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.[/quote]
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)

all these were wins

how can you hand feed all these fighters[/quote]

Wow, you must have long arms cuz that post of yours is one helluva reach;

Overeem ( well rounded) — There’s absolutely nothing well rounded about Overeem. The guy has a ton of potential but he’s never been able to get anywhere near it.

Bustamante ( good striker) — Jury’s still out on this one.

Babalu ( very dangerous) — Dangerous only if he’s able to take you down & anyone with half a brain who’s watched at least 2 of Chuck’s fights knows that you can’t take Chuck down with a straight-shoot because his sprawl is too good. Apparently, Babalu never got that memo. And what the hell was he thinking in their 2nd fight wanting to strike? I digress.

Couture ( one of the best) — I’ll give you this one because he stomped CL in the 1st fight & had him on the run in their 2nd until he slipped, lost his footing & CL capitalized on the mistake.

Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop) — He didnt out-fight Cro Cop, he hit him with one helluva punch. Randleman is another 1 dimensional waste of athletecism. I think the roids have fried his brain-cells or something. Had he gotten into a solid camp he coulda really been more than a flash in the pan but MMA evolved & he didnt…..the end.

Horn( well rounded) — Horn has a solid ground game but he’s NOT well rounded. His striking leaves much to be desired.

Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)– See Babalu

Belfort(in his prime) — I gotta take this one with a grain of salt because of Belfort’s super-fragile mental state at the time of this fight. His sister had just been kidnapped a week or so earlier. No man could possibly wrap up a training camp according to plan & be 100% focused come fight night under this circumstance. When you compare tape of Vitor in his prime & Chuck in his prime, I see Vitor winning their fight in fashion.

Suloev (well rounded)– So am I….

Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power) — This is when I realized how long your arms are….[/quote]
Machine, what i was trying to say is that all these dudes have a chin and all have the ability to knock chuck out the post that made me post all these guys suggested that chuck hasnt fought opponents that have a chin or could knock him out… Vernon White got popped in the head multiple times by Liddell and rocked him with a big left hook in there fight, Randleman has a chin and has knock out power fuck that “one good punch” shit, he has “knock out power”, Horn has a great chin his striking is not flashy or powerfull but, he has knocked ppl out before including Forrest with a leg kick,Now we agreed with Couture so no argument there, and Vitor I will agree with you I didnt realize that the kidnapping of his sister was before that fight but, still think Chuck would of won, simply because Couture fought him in his prime and beat him. All i was trying to say is that Chuck has fought ppl with good chins and good strikers, damn all you have to say is Couture the dude had never been knocked out in his career and he beat the crap out of Liddell the first but, one little adjustment and 2 knock outs.

31 Wins (21 KOs, 4 submissions, 6 decisions), 7 Losses (4 KOs, 3 decisions), 1 Draw , 1 No Contest .
Result Opponent Method Event Date Round Time
Loss Dan Henderson KO (Left Hook) PRIDE 33: The Second Coming 2/24/2007 3 2:08
Loss Mirko Filipovic KO (Head Kick) PRIDE Final Conflict Absolute 9/10/2006 1 5:26
Win Kazuyuki Fujita TKO (Strikes) PRIDE Critical Countdown Absolute 7/1/2006 1 9:21
Win Ricardo Arona Decision (Split) PRIDE Shockwave 2005 12/31/2005 3 5:00
Loss Ricardo Arona Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE Final Conflict 2005 8/28/2005 2 5:00
Win Kazuhiro Nakamura TKO (Strikes) PRIDE Critical Countdown 2005 6/24/2005 1 5:24
Win Hidehiko Yoshida Decision (Split) PRIDE Total Elimination 2005 4/23/2005 3 5:00
Loss Mark Hunt Decision (Split) PRIDE Shockwave 2004 12/31/2004 3 5:00
Win Quinton Jackson KO (Knees) PRIDE 28: High Octane 10/31/2004 2 3:26
Win Yuki Kondo KO (Stomps) PRIDE Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 2:46
Win Ikuhisa Minowa KO (Punches) PRIDE Bushido 2 2/15/2004 1 1:09
Win Quinton Jackson TKO (Strikes) PRIDE Final Conflict 2003 11/9/2003 1 6:28
Win Hidehiko Yoshida Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE Final Conflict 2003 11/9/2003 2 5:00
Win Kazushi Sakuraba KO (Punch) PRIDE Total Elimination 2003 8/10/2003 1 5:01
Win Hiromitsu Kanehara TKO (Towel) PRIDE 23: Championship Chaos 2 11/24/2002 1 3:40
Win Tatsuya Iwasaki TKO (Strike) PRIDE Shockwave 8/28/2002 1 1:16
Draw Mirko Filipovic Draw PRIDE 20: Armed and Ready 4/28/2002 3 5:00
Win Kiyoshi Tamura TKO (Punch) PRIDE 19: Bad Blood 4/24/2002 2 2:28
Win Alexander Otsuka TKO (Doctor Stoppage) PRIDE 18: Cold Fury 2 12/23/2001 3 2:2
Win Kazushi Sakuraba TKO (Doctor Stoppage) PRIDE 17: Championship Chaos 11/3/2001 1 10:00
Win Shungo Oyama TKO (Strikes) PRIDE 14: Clash of the Titans 5/27/2001 1 0:30
Win Kazushi Sakuraba TKO (Strikes) PRIDE 13: Collision Course 3/25/2001 1 1:38
Win Dan Henderson Decision PRIDE 12: Cold Fury 12/9/2000 3 5:00
NC Gilbert Yvel No Contest (Yvel kicked in the groin) PRIDE 11: Battle of the Rising Sun 10/31/2000 1 0:21
Win Guy Mezger KO (Strikes) PRIDE 10: Return of the Warriors 8/27/2000 1 3:45
Win Todd Medina KO (Knees) Meca World Vale Tudo 2 8/12/2000 1 0:39
Loss Tito Ortiz Decision (Unanimous) UFC 25: Ultimate Japan 3 4/14/2000 5 5:00
Win Bob Schrijber Submission (Rear Naked Choke) PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 Opening Round 1/30/2000 1 2:42
Win Daijiru Matsui Decision PRIDE 8 11/21/1999 2 10:00
Win Carl Malenko Decision PRIDE 7 9/12/1999 2 10:00
Win Tony Petarra KO (Knee to the Head) UFC 20: Battle for the Gold 5/7/1999 1 2:53
Win Eugene Jackson Submission (Strikes) IVC 10: World Class Champions 4/27/1999 1 0:32
Win Adriano Serrano KO (Punches and Kick) IVC 9: The Revenge 1/20/1999 1 0:22
Loss Vitor Belfort TKO (Strikes) UFC: Ultimate Brazil 10/16/1998 1 0:44
Win Mike Van Arsdale KO (Punch and Kick) IVC 6: The Challenge 8/23/1998 1 4:00
Loss Artur Mariano TKO (Cut) IVC 2: A Question of Pride 9/15/1997 2 13:10
Win Egidio da Costa Submission (Punches) IVC 2: A Question of Pride 9/15/1997 1 2:27
Win Sean Bornett KO (Kick) IVC 2: A Question of Pride 9/15/1997 1 1:19
Win Marcelao Marcelao Submission (Shoulder Injury) Brazilian Vale Tudo 10 7/1/1997 1 0:20
Win Dilson Filho KO (Punch) Brazilian Vale Tudo 6 11/1/1996 1 3:35

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compared i think chuck and Wand are close Silva beat Rampage twice and Ortiz beat Silva, Chuck beat Ortiz twice and Rampage beat Liddell

the game has passed chuch by, it may have even passed wandi, they are not the elite at 205, both were great fighters, at least chuck is now just a good fighter, wandi may still be at the top but as for chuck, father time has passed him by, and thats no disrespect towards chuck he had a damn good run and all ya’ll iceman nut huggers have nothing to be ashammed about at one time he was the man, just not now

Thanks for the memories Chuck, you were great man.

It’s the only logical fight out there for both. It’s still a big money maker regardless of Liddell’s two dissapointing losses. I can see Liddell losing again and retiring. Wanderlai is being brought in to fight Quinton for the title. We may see Rampage fight a Forrest or Jardine before Wanderlai, but that fight will happen.

Ok, so now they are downplaying the Direct TV thing, and they are saying that wandy will announce his next fight @ 77, in which he will respond this time by saying

“I am definitely going to F*ck Chuck on Dec 29th”

[quote comment="182600"][quote post="3630"]Wand has a huge advantage, just because of the age difference. Randy aside, dudes over 36, 37 just don’t usually beat younger fighters at the same talent level. Wand should crush Chuck for that reason alone.[/quote]

Wandi’s age advantage of being younger than Chuck is negated by the amount of punishment each fighter has taken. I think that it is quite obvious that Wandi has taken far more punishment over the years than Chuck. Since Chuck became champ in 2004, how much punishment has he taken in his fights, seriously now. Barely any! Excluding his last fight, he basically got 1 punch KO’d by Rampage and prior to that, he was barely touched, especially against Randy twice, Babalu and Vernon White. Jeremy Horn and Tito didn’t exactly beat up Chuck, but at least they punched him once or twice.

Wandi has had 40 pro fights. Chuck has had 25. Wandi fought in PRIDE for most of his career. In PRIDE, they had open weight tournaments where you often had to fight guys much larger than yourself. Wanderlei Silva has fought the likes of Mark Hunt, Cro Cop, and Fujita. Wandi took more punishment in the Cro Cop and Hunt fights than Chuck has over his entire career.

The age difference will make zero difference in this fight. A complete non-factor.[/quote]

That’s an excellent point. Wanderlei had times where he was fighting 4 to 6 times in a single year. That, combined with the training camps for each fight, is a lot of wear and tear.

Now combine that with the possible steroid issue – if these Pride guys were really all juicing.

Chuck has a reach advantage in the striking plus the uncanny ability to seemingly touch people on the head and make their legs crumble underneath them.

I think the UFC guys in general are better at cutting weight and coming in bigger so I may give a size and strength advantage to Liddell.

I think that it’s a little too early to count Liddell out or say the game past him. He has a great chance in this fight if it happens.

Too bad it’s a year late. Talk about a must-win for Liddell.

This is the fight that will tell us if Chuck is done. If Chuck can’t get up for this fight viagara won’t even help him!

[quote comment="184134"][quote comment="182600"][quote post="3630"]Wand has a huge advantage, just because of the age difference. Randy aside, dudes over 36, 37 just don’t usually beat younger fighters at the same talent level. Wand should crush Chuck for that reason alone.[/quote]

Wandi’s age advantage of being younger than Chuck is negated by the amount of punishment each fighter has taken. I think that it is quite obvious that Wandi has taken far more punishment over the years than Chuck. Since Chuck became champ in 2004, how much punishment has he taken in his fights, seriously now. Barely any! Excluding his last fight, he basically got 1 punch KO’d by Rampage and prior to that, he was barely touched, especially against Randy twice, Babalu and Vernon White. Jeremy Horn and Tito didn’t exactly beat up Chuck, but at least they punched him once or twice.

Wandi has had 40 pro fights. Chuck has had 25. Wandi fought in PRIDE for most of his career. In PRIDE, they had open weight tournaments where you often had to fight guys much larger than yourself. Wanderlei Silva has fought the likes of Mark Hunt, Cro Cop, and Fujita. Wandi took more punishment in the Cro Cop and Hunt fights than Chuck has over his entire career.

The age difference will make zero difference in this fight. A complete non-factor.[/quote]

That’s an excellent point. Wanderlei had times where he was fighting 4 to 6 times in a single year. That, combined with the training camps for each fight, is a lot of wear and tear.

Now combine that with the possible steroid issue – if these Pride guys were really all juicing.

Chuck has a reach advantage in the striking plus the uncanny ability to seemingly touch people on the head and make their legs crumble underneath them.

I think the UFC guys in general are better at cutting weight and coming in bigger so I may give a size and strength advantage to Liddell.

I think that it’s a little too early to count Liddell out or say the game past him. He has a great chance in this fight if it happens.[/quote]
Absolutely true. Well written and very well thought out!

[quote post="3630"]chuck fights where all hand picked by dana, he is not that bad, he has a great punch and great take down defense, but anyone with a chin who knows how to throw will fuck him up.make a list of who he has fought and compare it to wan.
Overeem ( well rounded)
Bustamante ( good striker)
Babalu ( very dangerous)
Couture ( one of the best)
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop)
Horn( well rounded)
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)
Belfort(in his prime)
Suloev (well rounded)
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power)
all these were wins
how can you hand feed all these fighters
Wow, you must have long arms cuz that post of yours is one helluva reach;
Overeem ( well rounded) — There’s absolutely nothing well rounded about Overeem. The guy has a ton of potential but he’s never been able to get anywhere near it.
Bustamante ( good striker) — Jury’s still out on this one.
Babalu ( very dangerous) — Dangerous only if he’s able to take you down & anyone with half a brain who’s watched at least 2 of Chuck’s fights knows that you can’t take Chuck down with a straight-shoot because his sprawl is too good. Apparently, Babalu never got that memo. And what the hell was he thinking in their 2nd fight wanting to strike? I digress.
Couture ( one of the best) — I’ll give you this one because he stomped CL in the 1st fight & had him on the run in their 2nd until he slipped, lost his footing & CL capitalized on the mistake.
Randleman ( fakin beast, knocked out crocop) — He didnt out-fight Cro Cop, he hit him with one helluva punch. Randleman is another 1 dimensional waste of athletecism. I think the roids have fried his brain-cells or something. Had he gotten into a solid camp he coulda really been more than a flash in the pan but MMA evolved & he didnt…..the end.
Horn( well rounded) — Horn has a solid ground game but he’s NOT well rounded. His striking leaves much to be desired.
Ortiz(good ground n pound, couldnt take him down)— See Babalu
Belfort(in his prime) — I gotta take this one with a grain of salt because of Belfort’s super-fragile mental state at the time of this fight. His sister had just been kidnapped a week or so earlier. No man could possibly wrap up a training camp according to plan & be 100% focused come fight night under this circumstance. When you compare tape of Vitor in his prime & Chuck in his prime, I see Vitor winning their fight in fashion.
Suloev (well rounded)— So am I….
Vernon White(not top contender but knock out power) — This is when I realized how long your arms are….[/quote]

Machine, Belfort lost to Liddell in June of 2002. His sister was kidnapped in January of 2004, before his title fight against Couture. Double-check your fight history, and give Liddell his due credit. He fought a young, in shape, emotionally stable Belfort and beat him by unanimous decision, a Belfort who four years earlier knocked out Wanderlei in 44 seconds.

That being said, Wanderlei has more than a puncher’s chance of beating Chuck, but Chuck also has more than a puncher’s chance of beating Wanderlei. This will be a good fight come December.

Somebody said earlier that Dana picks Chuck’s fights…since he has lost two straight and has the biggest contract in the UFC seems to reason Dana would pick a winner for him. Can’t have Chuck going Mike Vick style and vanishing from the face of the earth when he(and Vick) were/are the most promoted people in their respective sports. That being said Wandi is going down in the 3rd. Chuck strings the fight along then knocks ‘em out

Chuck is good, very good. Wanderlei is my hero and he will painfully fuck chuck up like a crazy gorilla.

ill go for wanderlei this time. he has beaten the man who beat chuck twice (quinton jackson) and he also beat em twice.